Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 2014-08-30 00:40, Szymon Gatner wrote: But there is still a matter of ARM/iOS runtime correct? Yes, but that is nothing I'm working on. Although other people are working on that. Those merges will go to 2.067? I have no idea. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 2014-08-29 15:46:32 +, Jacob Carlborg said: On 2014-08-29 16:06, Szymon Gatner wrote: If that is indeed the case then this is huge for me. I am doing 32bit Win apps and their iOS versions. The moment I will be able to use D libraries on both platforms I will totaly do it. In fact I want to be one of the very first to release paid iOS app with D code in it ;) It's your luck day (almost). I'm working on making D ABI compatible with Objective-C [1]. It's mostly done, I'm working on merging latest changes. [1] http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP43 That's cool stuff. How will Swift influence this? I'm pretty sure that Apple's strategy is to get rid of Objective-C ASAP and use Swift whereever possible. -- Robert M. Münch Saphirion AG http://www.saphirion.com smarter | better | faster
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 2014-08-30 14:31, Robert M. Münch wrote: That's cool stuff. How will Swift influence this? I'm pretty sure that Apple's strategy is to get rid of Objective-C ASAP and use Swift whereever possible. Swift is ABI compatible with Objective-C. So anything that works across Swift and Objective-C should, in theory, work across Swift and D. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Tuesday, 19 August 2014 at 07:17:46 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 17/08/14 11:57, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. The runtime part has been merged now as well: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/druntime/pull/928 Pardon my ignorance but does that mean that static library written in D could be used (linked) by 32bit program compiled with Visual Studio?
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 29/08/14 13:00, Szymon Gatner wrote: Pardon my ignorance but does that mean that static library written in D could be used (linked) by 32bit program compiled with Visual Studio? Yes, as far as I understand it. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Friday, 29 August 2014 at 12:50:28 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 29/08/14 13:00, Szymon Gatner wrote: Pardon my ignorance but does that mean that static library written in D could be used (linked) by 32bit program compiled with Visual Studio? Yes, as far as I understand it. If that is indeed the case then this is huge for me. I am doing 32bit Win apps and their iOS versions. The moment I will be able to use D libraries on both platforms I will totaly do it. In fact I want to be one of the very first to release paid iOS app with D code in it ;)
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 2014-08-29 16:06, Szymon Gatner wrote: If that is indeed the case then this is huge for me. I am doing 32bit Win apps and their iOS versions. The moment I will be able to use D libraries on both platforms I will totaly do it. In fact I want to be one of the very first to release paid iOS app with D code in it ;) It's your luck day (almost). I'm working on making D ABI compatible with Objective-C [1]. It's mostly done, I'm working on merging latest changes. [1] http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP43 -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Friday, 29 August 2014 at 15:46:33 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2014-08-29 16:06, Szymon Gatner wrote: If that is indeed the case then this is huge for me. I am doing 32bit Win apps and their iOS versions. The moment I will be able to use D libraries on both platforms I will totaly do it. In fact I want to be one of the very first to release paid iOS app with D code in it ;) It's your luck day (almost). I'm working on making D ABI compatible with Objective-C [1]. It's mostly done, I'm working on merging latest changes. [1] http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP43 Wow, that is great news! Thanks for this awesome work. How does that relate to C++ on iOS? My apps are 99,8% C++ with some minimal Obj-C when necessary.
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Friday, 29 August 2014 at 15:46:33 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2014-08-29 16:06, Szymon Gatner wrote: If that is indeed the case then this is huge for me. I am doing 32bit Win apps and their iOS versions. The moment I will be able to use D libraries on both platforms I will totaly do it. In fact I want to be one of the very first to release paid iOS app with D code in it ;) It's your luck day (almost). I'm working on making D ABI compatible with Objective-C [1]. It's mostly done, I'm working on merging latest changes. [1] http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP43 I knew about this, but thought it had been abandoned. Great to see that it's alive, this is an important development!
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 2014-08-29 19:16, Szymon Gatner wrote: Wow, that is great news! Thanks for this awesome work. How does that relate to C++ on iOS? My apps are 99,8% C++ with some minimal Obj-C when necessary. It's unrelated to C++. D is currently ABI compatible with C++ and if that works on OS X (I assume it does) it should work on iOS too. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 2014-08-29 20:35, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote: I knew about this, but thought it had been abandoned. Great to see that it's alive, this is an important development! I've been working on resurrecting the great work done by Michel Fortin. It's updated to 64bit and the modern runtime. It runs on OS X 32 and 64bit and should run on iOS with minor tweaks. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 8/29/14, 9:40 AM, Andrej Mitrovic via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: On 8/29/14, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-announce digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote: On 2014-08-29 16:06, Szymon Gatner wrote: If that is indeed the case then this is huge for me. I am doing 32bit Win apps and their iOS versions. The moment I will be able to use D libraries on both platforms I will totaly do it. In fact I want to be one of the very first to release paid iOS app with D code in it ;) It's your luck day (almost). I'm working on making D ABI compatible with Objective-C [1]. It's mostly done, I'm working on merging latest changes. [1] http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP43 There are so many amazing new features coming along for D lately. :) Keep it up! Things are really happening folks. Andrei
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Friday, 29 August 2014 at 19:54:04 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2014-08-29 19:16, Szymon Gatner wrote: Wow, that is great news! Thanks for this awesome work. How does that relate to C++ on iOS? My apps are 99,8% C++ with some minimal Obj-C when necessary. It's unrelated to C++. D is currently ABI compatible with C++ and if that works on OS X (I assume it does) it should work on iOS too. But there is still a matter of ARM/iOS runtime correct? Those merges will go to 2.067?
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
Am 19.08.2014 03:25, schrieb Nick Sabalausky: On 8/17/2014 5:57 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. [1] https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3843 Heh, couldn't have come at a better time. I *just* hit this little nugget of fun: Error 45: Too Much DEBUG Data for Old CodeView format I've been hitting that regularly in recent times, which is why I'm using this fix: https://github.com/DigitalMars/optlink/pull/15 It basically just disables the error message, so it would be good if Walter would comment on it. At least the error message seems to imply that the limit only exists for the older CodeView formats.
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 17/08/14 11:57, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. The runtime part has been merged now as well: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/druntime/pull/928 -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 17 August 2014 19:57, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-announce digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. [1] https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3843 -- /Jacob Carlborg OMG, it happened! This is a glorious day! :)
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 8/17/2014 5:57 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. [1] https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3843 Heh, couldn't have come at a better time. I *just* hit this little nugget of fun: Error 45: Too Much DEBUG Data for Old CodeView format
COFF support for Win32 merged
I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. [1] https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3843 -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 17/08/2014 9:57 p.m., Jacob Carlborg wrote: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. [1] https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3843 Well this makes me happy :3 Thank you Rainer!
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
Am 17.08.2014 11:57, schrieb Jacob Carlborg: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. [1] https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3843 Wow, that's fantastic news! Thank you very much Rainer!
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
Jacob Carlborg: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. I have just recompiled dmd, but I don't see that new compiler switch (dmd 2.067). I am compiling in a wrong way? Bye, bearophile
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 10:50:38 + bearophile via Digitalmars-d-announce digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote: I have just recompiled dmd, but I don't see that new compiler switch (dmd 2.067). are you sure that you compiled dmd for 32-bit windows? other versions seems to not have this flag. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
ketmar: are you sure that you compiled dmd for 32-bit windows? other versions seems to not have this flag. Yes, I am using a 32 bit Windows. Bye, bearophile
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:34:59 +
bearophile via Digitalmars-d-announce
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:
Yes, I am using a 32 bit Windows.
are you sure that you have latest git then? yes, i know that this is
very silly question, but sometimes... ;-)
unfortunately, i have no windows boxes (neither cross-compilers), so
can't check it myself. but i see this in mars.c:
#if TARGET_WINDOS
else if (strcmp(p + 1, m32mscoff) == 0)
{
global.params.is64bit = 0;
global.params.mscoff = true;
}
#endif
...
static const char* parse_arch(size_t argc, const char** argv, const
char* arch) {
for (size_t i = 0; i argc; ++i)
{ const char* p = argv[i];
if (p[0] == '-')
{
if (strcmp(p + 1, m32) == 0 || strcmp(p + 1, m32mscoff)
== 0 || strcmp(p + 1, m64) == 0) arch = p + 2;
else if (strcmp(p + 1, run) == 0)
break;
}
}
return arch;
}
so i believe that it should work.
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Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
ketmar: are you sure that you have latest git then? yes, i know that this is very silly question, but sometimes... ;-) OK, -m32mscoff works (probably I was using a wrongly written switch), but I don't see it listed among the other compiler switches. Bye, bearophile
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:01:06 + bearophile via Digitalmars-d-announce digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote: OK, -m32mscoff works (probably I was using a wrongly written switch), but I don't see it listed among the other compiler switches. maybe this is due to mscoff support still considering 'experimental'? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Sunday, 17 August 2014 at 13:01:07 UTC, bearophile wrote: ketmar: are you sure that you have latest git then? yes, i know that this is very silly question, but sometimes... ;-) OK, -m32mscoff works (probably I was using a wrongly written switch), but I don't see it listed among the other compiler switches. You will need to use his unmerged branches of druntime and phobos also: https://github.com/rainers/druntime/tree/coff32 https://github.com/rainers/phobos/tree/coff32 Hopefully those get merged next, as I think this could be a big feature for the 2.067 release. Nice work, Rainer.
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 8/17/14, 6:01 AM, bearophile wrote: ketmar: are you sure that you have latest git then? yes, i know that this is very silly question, but sometimes... ;-) OK, -m32mscoff works (probably I was using a wrongly written switch) schwartzSort comes to mind -- Andrei
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 8/17/14, 7:58 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 8/17/14, 6:01 AM, bearophile wrote: ketmar: are you sure that you have latest git then? yes, i know that this is very silly question, but sometimes... ;-) OK, -m32mscoff works (probably I was using a wrongly written switch) schwartzSort comes to mind -- Andrei forgot the smiley :o) -- Andrei
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
Andrei Alexandrescu: schwartzSort comes to mind -- Andrei forgot the smiley :o) -- Andrei Yeah that's an infamous example. Standard libraries should avoid too much hard to write identifiers. Bye, bearophile
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 8/17/2014 5:57 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. [1] https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3843 Wow! This is MAJOR! o_O
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 8/17/2014 2:57 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. [1] https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3843 Yes, it did turn out to be a much less intrusive change than I anticipated, and Rainer's work also included some sensible refactoring which was valuable in and of itself.
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 8/17/2014 6:11 AM, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: maybe this is due to mscoff support still considering 'experimental'? It certainly is, as there is no druntime support for it, it is not tested by the autotester, etc.
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On 8/17/14, 11:39 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 8/17/2014 5:57 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I though that this might be important enough to share on the announce list: A pull request [1] by Rainer Schuetze which adds COFF support for Win32 has recently been merged by Walter. It seems to be enabled using the -m32mscoff flag. [1] https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3843 Wow! This is MAJOR! o_O Indeed! Does this enable VS debugging of D programs? Also, what's the deal on Win64? -- Andrei
Re: COFF support for Win32 merged
On Sunday, 17 August 2014 at 22:25:55 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Indeed! Does this enable VS debugging of D programs? This enables using the MS C runtime for Win32 programs, but you could already use VS for debugging thanks to cv2pdb (also written by Rainer!). Though, now that the debug information is not channeled through the CodeView format, it might be more accurate. Also, what's the deal on Win64? -- Andrei Win64 is COFF-only because OPTLINK is 32-bit-only, so PDB was DMD's only Win64 debugging format (not that that's a bad thing).
