Re: [digitalradio] Announcing : Annual Digitalradio Awards 2006.

[Brett Owen Rees VK2TMG]

Cecil,

Thanks for the pointer to the Softrock txrx kit - it looks like a lot of fun
for not many dollars. A question for you - is mounting the surface mount
components do-able for the average ham with no special surface mount gear?

Tnx es 73 de Brett VK2TMG

Re: [digitalradio] Announcing : Annual Digitalradio Awards 2006.

[KD5NWA]

Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> Biggest disappointments of the year : 
> 1. ALE . Has just not taken off in the amateur world.
> 2. Softrock 40.  What happened to it ?
> 

The AMQRP club is all but dead, so nothing will be coming from that 
direction. The creator of the SoftRock40 however has not stopped, the 
latest is the SoftRock V6.1. Right now in beta phase is the SoftRock 6.1 
RxTx transceiver that will soon go in production, it features 2 bands 
80M & 40M and outputs approximately one watt of power. The cost will be 
$32 and orders will be taken early next year.

There is a Yahoo group where all things SoftRock is discussed, it the 
SoftRock40 group.
-- 

Cecil
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com

"Sacred Cows make the best Hamburger!"  Don Seglio Batuna

Re: [digitalradio] WinDrm

[w6ids]

Well, I tried the link and brought up a page which sez the account
has been suspended.

Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN

- Original Message - 
From: wb4mnk 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:02 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] WinDrm

 I have tried this web 
site www.rarewares.org/files/others/melp_dll.zip but for some reason 
the web site will not come up. Any suggestions?

RE: [digitalradio] Keying interface

[Robert Norris]

Dave,

 

You should find the Donner site using either of the following links:

 

http://www.donnerstore.com  

http://home.att.net/~n8st/

 

 

Bob  KA5KXT

 

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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Corio
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 8:16 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Keying interface

 

Hi again, Rick and thanks for the info.
  
The RIGblaster does not key CW, unfortunately. If there is a jumper
inside that can be changed to allow it, that would be even more problems,
since most of my operating is on the digi-modes, and swapping a jumper back
& forth isn't too practical. 

I've seen schematics for the interface, and I agree that it is very
simple. Not too long ago I would have tried to build it, but that's not a
viable option any more either, unfortunately.

That Donner cable (can't help but visualize a wagon train stranded in
the mountains) seems to be just what the doctor ordered, however! I only
wanted to use a USB port since my serial ports are all in use, but a 4-port
serial PCI card is real cheap, and just might do the trick! I didn't find
his site when I did a Google for CW interfaces!

Thanks again for the info! Now to follow up with Donner!

73 and Happy New Year
Dave
KB3MOW


KV9U wrote: 

Dave,

If you have a Rigblaster, other than the NOMIC version, shouldn't it 
have the ability to TX CW? Most of the rigblasters have an optoisolated 
keying circuit.

Some of the rigblasters have an internal jumper that you can set for 
various keying arrangements and I think one lets you operate PTT from 
RTS and CW keying from DTR, but I wonder if this requires two com ports?

Quite a few years ago, a young ham came to me who lived a short distance 
from me (about a block) and was getting into contesting in a big way and 
needed to hook up a computer to key the rig. The circuit is about as 
simple a circuit as you will ever find in electronics as it only needs 
one NPN transistor and a couple of resistors to key off the RTS or DTR 
line. We soldered it up in a few minutes with junkbox parts and 
installed them in a DB connector. Can't remember if it was a DB-25 or 
DB-9, but probably the bigger one which also was much easier to find 
room. He told me later that it really worked well but that was probably 
MS-DOS. He eventually really got into contesting in a big way and into 
computer stuff and many of you may even know of KA9FOX's web site at 
QTH.com.

A similar product is available from companies such as Donner for a low 
price:

http://home. 
att.net/~n8st/cwhardkey.html

With modern computers, running XP through a USB I have heard of some 
problems in being able to key well depending upon how high the speed, so 
this could be an issue.

Let us know how things work out for you.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Dave wrote:

>Would anyone have a CW keying interface they would be willing to sell?
>I'd like to be able to send CW from my PC to my IC-746 (non-Pro). I
>have a RIGblaster already hooked up, but that's no good for CW. I'm
>not too concerned with copying CW on the PC, just sending. Had
>shoulder surgery and can't use that arm for paddles for quite a while.
>First choice would be one triggered from a USB port if such a beast
>exists, but I could free up one of the serial ports. Don't have a lot
>to spend, and can't build my own, so I'm hoping someone has one that
>they no longer use and would like to sell.
>
>Thanks & 73
>Dave
>KB3MOW
>
>
> 
>

 





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[digitalradio] Announcing : Annual Digitalradio Awards 2006.

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks for the nominations.  Here are the Third Annual Digitalradio 
Awards .

2006

Best "new" Digital Mode : WinDRM with Francesco Lanza 
HB9TLK  ,digital voice. Major advances .

Best New Software:  fldigi from Dave W1HKJ.  A big boost to the Linux 
digital world.

Best Supported digital related software Multipsk by Patrick 
Lindecker F6CTE.

Biggest development in 2006:  Addition of Reed Solomon encode/decode 
in Multipsk.

Biggest disappointments of the year : 
1. ALE . Has just not taken off in the amateur world.
2. Softrock 40.  What happened to it ?


Best Digital Modes Interface : Microkeyer by Microham.  Still the 
best performance, workmanship, and customer support.


Best Digital Contest:  European PSK Club ,  PSK63 Contest.  Good 
activity and proved PSK63 is great for contesting.

Experimenters Award: Awards go to three hams this year. John VE5MU , 
Tony KT2Q ,and Bill N9DSJ.

Tony for his work with Digital voice comparisons, John and Bill for 
their work with PAX2 and 110 baud packet beacons.

Most Underrated:  Commander by Dave Bernstein AA6YQ.  This product 
can really assist the digital ham.  Spotting interfaces, rig control, 
memory banks, and more!

Most Useful In 2006:  PSKMAIL by Rein PA0R .  2006 has been poor for 
propagation and PSKMAIL has proved more capable than most other modes 
for emergency and other non-Internet dependent message systems.

Needs Inventing in 2006-2007(still) .. HF APRS with Olivia.

Most Anticipated Event in 2007:Release of  Digital Master 780 by 
Simon Brown, HB9DRV.

Software To Watch in 2007:  PC-ALE by Charles Brain, G4GUO.   
Major upgrade due in early 2007.

Digital Hams We Miss:  Mako JE3HHT  author of MMTTY, MMSSTV, and 
MMVARI.  Mako has distanced himself from amateur radio in 2006 but 
those that have succeeded in contacting him say that he may have some 
time in 2007 for his digital ham products.

Get-Well-Soon:  John Becker W0JAB, co-moderator of Digitalradio.  
Some nasty health issues in December 2006.  Thanks for the valuable 
help John, here's to your health in 2007.


The awards are solely the opinions of Andy K3UK and thus are better 
opinions than anyone else :>),

Happy New Year.

Andy K3UK
Digitalradio
Owner.

Re: [digitalradio] Keying interface

[Dave Corio]

Thanks for the info and help, folks! That actually turned out to be 
quite easy and inexpensive. $8 for a 4-port serial card for the PC, and 
$15 for the keying interface to the rig! If only the search engines 
worked as well as the helpful people on this reflector!

Happy New Year to all and 73
Dave
KB3MOW

Re: [digitalradio] MFSK PIX

[John Bradley]

we were around 14073 or so , also check out 7073

John
  - Original Message - 
   
   

Re: [digitalradio] Keying interface

[Dave Corio]

   Hi again, Rick and thanks for the info.

   The RIGblaster does not key CW, unfortunately. If there is a jumper 
inside that can be changed to allow it, that would be even more 
problems, since most of my operating is on the digi-modes, and swapping 
a jumper back & forth isn't too practical.


   I've seen schematics for the interface, and I agree that it is very 
simple. Not too long ago I would have tried to build it, but that's not 
a viable option any more either, unfortunately.


   That Donner cable (can't help but visualize a wagon train stranded 
in the mountains) seems to be just what the doctor ordered, however! I 
only wanted to use a USB port since my serial ports are all in use, but 
a 4-port serial PCI card is real cheap, and just might do the trick! I 
didn't find his site when I did a Google for CW interfaces!


   Thanks again for the info! Now to follow up with Donner!

73 and Happy New Year
Dave
KB3MOW


KV9U wrote:


Dave,

If you have a Rigblaster, other than the NOMIC version, shouldn't it
have the ability to TX CW? Most of the rigblasters have an optoisolated
keying circuit.

Some of the rigblasters have an internal jumper that you can set for
various keying arrangements and I think one lets you operate PTT from
RTS and CW keying from DTR, but I wonder if this requires two com ports?

Quite a few years ago, a young ham came to me who lived a short distance
from me (about a block) and was getting into contesting in a big way and
needed to hook up a computer to key the rig. The circuit is about as
simple a circuit as you will ever find in electronics as it only needs
one NPN transistor and a couple of resistors to key off the RTS or DTR
line. We soldered it up in a few minutes with junkbox parts and
installed them in a DB connector. Can't remember if it was a DB-25 or
DB-9, but probably the bigger one which also was much easier to find
room. He told me later that it really worked well but that was probably
MS-DOS. He eventually really got into contesting in a big way and into
computer stuff and many of you may even know of KA9FOX's web site at
QTH.com.

A similar product is available from companies such as Donner for a low
price:

http://home.att.net/~n8st/cwhardkey.html 



With modern computers, running XP through a USB I have heard of some
problems in being able to key well depending upon how high the speed, so
this could be an issue.

Let us know how things work out for you.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Dave wrote:

>Would anyone have a CW keying interface they would be willing to sell?
>I'd like to be able to send CW from my PC to my IC-746 (non-Pro). I
>have a RIGblaster already hooked up, but that's no good for CW. I'm
>not too concerned with copying CW on the PC, just sending. Had
>shoulder surgery and can't use that arm for paddles for quite a while.
>First choice would be one triggered from a USB port if such a beast
>exists, but I could free up one of the serial ports. Don't have a lot
>to spend, and can't build my own, so I'm hoping someone has one that
>they no longer use and would like to sell.
>
>Thanks & 73
>Dave
>KB3MOW
>
>
>
>




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Re: [digitalradio] Keying interface

[KV9U]

Dave,

If you have a Rigblaster, other than the NOMIC version, shouldn't it 
have the ability to TX CW? Most of the rigblasters have an optoisolated 
keying circuit.

Some of the rigblasters have an internal jumper that you can set for 
various keying arrangements and I think one lets you operate PTT from 
RTS and CW keying from DTR, but I wonder if this requires two com ports?

Quite a few years ago, a young ham came to me who lived a short distance 
from me (about a block) and was getting into contesting in a big way and 
needed to hook up a computer to key the rig. The circuit is about as 
simple a circuit as you will ever find in electronics as it only needs 
one NPN transistor and a couple of resistors to key off the RTS or DTR 
line. We soldered it up in a few minutes with junkbox parts and 
installed them in a DB connector. Can't remember if it was a DB-25 or 
DB-9, but probably the bigger one which also was much easier to find 
room. He told me later that it really worked well but that was probably 
MS-DOS. He eventually really got into contesting in a big way and into 
computer stuff and many of you may even know of KA9FOX's web site at 
QTH.com.

A similar product is available from companies such as Donner for a low 
price:

http://home.att.net/~n8st/cwhardkey.html

With modern computers, running XP through a USB I have heard of some 
problems in being able to key well depending upon how high the speed, so 
this could be an issue.

Let us know how things work out for you.

73,

Rick, KV9U




Dave wrote:

>Would anyone have a CW keying interface they would be willing to sell?
>I'd like to be able to send CW from my PC to my IC-746 (non-Pro). I
>have a RIGblaster already hooked up, but that's no good for CW. I'm
>not too concerned with copying CW on the PC, just sending. Had
>shoulder surgery and can't use that arm for paddles for quite a while.
>First choice would be one triggered from a USB port if such a beast
>exists, but I could free up one of the serial ports. Don't have a lot
>to spend, and can't build my own, so I'm hoping someone has one that
>they no longer use and would like to sell.
>
>Thanks & 73
>Dave
>KB3MOW
>
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] Re: AEA232MBX

[jhaynesatalumni]

I too have one of those that has not been turned on in quite
a while.  For RTTY the sound card implementations are a lot
better, first because you can do better things with DSP, and
second because the PK-232 uses a compromise 200 Hz shift for
RTTY and AMTOR and Pactor whereas the standard shift for RTTY
is 170 Hz.

But the PK-232 is a cheap way (cheap if you already have one)
to operate AMTOR and PACTOR-I.  I actually heard a station a
few days ago using one of these modes, which was the first time
in years I have heard any.  He was transmitting in FEC mode,
so I used a sound card program to talk to him, since sound card
programs will transmit and receive in FEC mode.  But I would have
had to fire up the PK-232 to work him in linked mode.

These days it seems the main use for Pactor is WinLink, and
for that you need Pactor 2 and 3, which requires the expensive
SCS box.

Some of the recent sound card modes like Olivia are pretty
amazing in how well they work without resorting to ARQ.

Re: [digitalradio] Keying interface

[Dave Corio]

   Thanks, Andy. I have a RIGblaster, and it doesn't do CW. Appreciate 
the thought, though!


Tnx es Happy New Year
73
KB3MOW


Andrew O'Brien wrote:


Dave,
Contact Ted N2ISQ in Bradford. I think he has a Rigblaster USB device
for sale, not sure if it will do CW though.
Andy.

On 12/30/06, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

> Would anyone have a CW keying interface they would be willing to sell?
> I'd like to be able to send CW from my PC to my IC-746 (non-Pro). I
> have a RIGblaster already hooked up, but that's no good for CW. I'm
> not too concerned with copying CW on the PC, just sending. Had
> shoulder surgery and can't use that arm for paddles for quite a while.
> First choice would be one triggered from a USB port if such a beast
> exists, but I could free up one of the serial ports. Don't have a lot
> to spend, and can't build my own, so I'm hoping someone has one that
> they no longer use and would like to sell.
>
> Thanks & 73
> Dave
> KB3MOW




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Re: [digitalradio] Keying interface

[Andrew O'Brien]

Dave,
Contact Ted N2ISQ in Bradford.  I think he has a Rigblaster USB device
for sale, not sure if it will do CW though.
Andy.

On 12/30/06, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would anyone have a CW keying interface they would be willing to sell?
> I'd like to be able to send CW from my PC to my IC-746 (non-Pro). I
> have a RIGblaster already hooked up, but that's no good for CW. I'm
> not too concerned with copying CW on the PC, just sending. Had
> shoulder surgery and can't use that arm for paddles for quite a while.
> First choice would be one triggered from a USB port if such a beast
> exists, but I could free up one of the serial ports. Don't have a lot
> to spend, and can't build my own, so I'm hoping someone has one that
> they no longer use and would like to sell.
>
> Thanks & 73
> Dave
> KB3MOW

Re: [digitalradio] MFSK PIX

[Art]

John, What frequency do you operate MFSK on? I would like to give it a try.

73
Art
WB4MNK
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger J. Buffington 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] MFSK PIX


  John Bradley wrote:
  >
  > hi Andy;
  >
  > Saw u working K5ZZ , Bill and W6VZV , Roger. like you I could copy
  > the pix sent by K5ZZ and sent him a couple, but for some reason Roger
  > could not copy pix. He is using 2 screens, so wonder if that might be
  > a problem?

  I solved the problem by re-installing MixW in a new directory. Don't 
  know why my old installation did not work, but all is well now. The old 
  installation had been upgraded zillions of times, so maybe there was 
  some old junk in the ini file or something. Beats me. In fact now I 
  can set things up so that the pic is in the secondary screen. Kind of cool.

  Come on guys, get on MFSK and let's send some pics!!

  de Roger W6VZV



   


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Re: [digitalradio] WinDrm

[Art]

Andy, Thanks for the information. I have already deleted the program so when we 
have the time I will give it another shot. Thanks for all your help.

73
Art
WB4MNK
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andrew O'Brien 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] WinDrm


  >
  > Hi Andy, Thanks for up loading the file to the files area but I installed 
it in the windrm folder on the desk top and now have no windrm .exe file so I 
have no clue what I have done.
  >

  Art, I suggest you download the Windrm again, install it over the old
  files in the SAME folder. the melp DLL should remain and you should
  have a fresh exe file.

  Andy.


   


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[digitalradio] Keying interface

[Dave]

Would anyone have a CW keying interface they would be willing to sell?
I'd like to be able to send CW from my PC to my IC-746 (non-Pro). I
have a RIGblaster already hooked up, but that's no good for CW. I'm
not too concerned with copying CW on the PC, just sending. Had
shoulder surgery and can't use that arm for paddles for quite a while.
First choice would be one triggered from a USB port if such a beast
exists, but I could free up one of the serial ports. Don't have a lot
to spend, and can't build my own, so I'm hoping someone has one that
they no longer use and would like to sell.

Thanks & 73
Dave
KB3MOW

Re: [digitalradio] WinDrm

[Andrew O'Brien]

>
> Hi Andy, Thanks for up loading the file to the files area but I installed it 
> in the windrm folder on the desk top and now have no windrm .exe file so I 
> have no clue what I have done.
>

Art, I suggest you download the Windrm again, install it over the old
files in the SAME folder.  the melp DLL should remain and you should
have a fresh exe file.

Andy.

Re: [digitalradio] MFSK PIX

[Roger J. Buffington]

John Bradley wrote:
>
>  hi Andy;
>
>  Saw u working K5ZZ , Bill and W6VZV , Roger. like you I could copy
>  the pix sent by K5ZZ and sent him a couple, but for some reason Roger
>  could not copy pix. He is using 2 screens, so wonder if that might be
>  a problem?

I solved the problem by re-installing MixW in a new directory.  Don't 
know why my old installation did not work, but all is well now. The old 
installation had been upgraded zillions of times, so maybe there was 
some old junk in the ini file or something.  Beats me.   In fact now I 
can set things up so that the pic is in the secondary screen.  Kind of cool.

Come on guys, get on MFSK and let's send some pics!!

de Roger W6VZV

Re: [digitalradio] WinDrm

[Art]

Hi Andy, Thanks for up loading the file to the files area but I installed it in 
the windrm folder on the desk top and now have no windrm .exe file so I have no 
clue what I have done. 

73
Art
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andrew O'Brien 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] WinDrm



  I will upload it to the files section here.

  Andy K3UK

   
  On 12/30/06, wb4mnk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
I am trying to get Windrm setup but can not fine the melp_dll.zip file 
and when we try and open we get an error message. I have tried this web 
site www.rarewares.org/files/others/melp_dll.zip but for some reason 
the web site will not come up. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Art
WB4MNK






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[digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?

[Dave Bernstein]

By storing its settings in the Windows Registry's HKEY_CURRENT_USER  
section, an application provides each Windows user on the same PC 
with his or her own independent set of settings. When a user logs 
into Windows, HKEY_CURRENT_USER is automatically populated with that 
user's settings.

Users are generally much more reticent to modify registry settings 
than the contents of a .ini file. An application that reads settings 
from a .ini file must be written to gracefully handle anything it 
encounters without crashing, hanging, or displaying a window 
saying "Run-time error '13': Type mismatch".

To facilitate component-based development, Windows provides dynamic 
link libraries (DLL files). For example, PSKCORE -- the engine used 
by many digital mode applications to modulate and demodulate PSK-31 
and PSK63 -- is packaged as a DLL. In general, applications must 
register the DLLs they use with Windows, which modifies the Windows 
Registry. The benefits of component-based development are summarized 
in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modularity_%28programming%29

   73,

Dave, AA6YQ





--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 1.This is a bit off topic, but I have often wondered why some 
windows 
> programs require Windows Registries and some work completely 
without 
> this. What causes a software author to cross the line that requires 
> those registry entries and all the complications that go with it?
> 
> 2. USB pens can be a lifesaver. A year ago we needed a particular 
> software program to run for Field Day and although I had the 
program on 
> my computer, we needed to put it on some other ones and of course 
no 
> more floppy drives. USB pen to the rescue. Had never used one 
before.
> 
> 3. Speaking of OS and USB pens, this may be one of those times to 
> consider using one of the Linux distributions that has been 
specifically 
> designed for this kind of media. The amateur radio software 
quantity and 
> quality seems to finally be getting better on Linux although it 
still 
> has a long way to catch up to MS OS software.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Rick, KV9U
> 
> Dave Bernstein wrote:
> 
> >Bob did not suggest a docking station, Sal, he suggested a second 
> >hard drive. I have used his recommended solution with my IBM T42P 
> >laptop, and it works extremely well; one can swap "identities" in 
the 
> >time required to terminate Windows and reboot; the physical drive 
> >swap takes a few seconds.
> >
> >With respect to your claim that "The USB PEN drive will work on 
> >almost every computer provided that the programs were correctly 
> >installed", I suggest that you (carefully) open the Windows 
Registry 
> >editor and examine the Software sections of HKCU and HKLM -- 
you'll 
> >find that DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, LotW, and QRZ all 
> >maintain settings there. Other popular digital mode applications 
may 
> >as well -- I don't have Digipan, MixW, or MultiPSK currently 
> >installed on this PC, and my examination was cursory. There is no 
way 
> >to "properly install" any of DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, 
LotW, 
> >or the QRZ CDROM callbook in a way that makes them pen-drive 
portable.
> >
> >There are web pages that list pen-drive portable applications, e.g.
> >
> >http://pendriveapps.com/
> >
> >and
> >
> >http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl/article/view/369/656
> >
> >but I've found no mention of digital mode amateur radio 
applications 
> >so far. Establishing such a list would be helpful, but I suggest 
that 
> >an application only be added after
> >
> >1. its author asserts that the application is pen-drive portable
> >
> >2. someone actually tests the application in a pen-drive portable 
> >configuration
> >
> >It would also be useful to compare performance in a pen-drive 
> >configuration vs. a hard-drive configuration.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave, AA6YQ
> >  
> >
>

Re: [digitalradio] MFSK PIX

[Andrew O'Brien]

I was copying the mail/pictures and saw the speculation about the two
monitors.  I think that is likely the issue.

Good signals from your today .

Andy.



On 12/30/06, John Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


   hi Andy;

Saw u working K5ZZ , Bill and W6VZV , Roger. like you I could copy the pix
sent by K5ZZ and sent him a couple, but for some reason
Roger could not copy pix. He is using 2 screens, so wonder if that might
be a problem?

K5ZZ go way back into the dark ages, keyboard to keyboard pactor 1

John
VE5MU







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[digitalradio] Re: AEA232MBX

[Dave Bernstein]

In RTTY mode, WinWarbler can run a soundcard RTTY engine (MMTTY) in 
parallel with an external RTTY modem like your AEA232MBX, a KAM, an 
MFJ RTTY modem, or an SCS multimode controller. This can be used in 
two useful ways:

1. to provide diversity decoding, which can improve your copy of RTTY 
DX in poor conditions

2. to simultaneously copy a RTTY DX station operating split and his 
or her pileup, accelerating detection of the DX station's QSX 
frequency

73,

   Dave, AA6YQ




--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "AD5VJ  Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have had an AEA 232MBX, in fact two of them, for quite some time 
now. 
> 
> I used to use them all the time for RTTY and packet, but I am 
wondering if these units no longer any good for Ham Radio, because of
> the advent of Computers, the Digital Software for RTTY and Telnet 
for spotting and the passing away of PACTOR I.
> 
> I know I can get upgrades for them for soundcard, ect. But is there 
any use in doing that since I run soundcard applications from
> the computer. Are they of more advantage than the sound card on my 
computer or would I be wasting my time, money and effort?
> 
> Can someone tell me if these are good for *anything* viable these 
days or is it true that they are just dinosaurs now? 
> 
> I cant understand how they are still being sold at such high prices 
new, if they are of no use, I just don't know what to use them
> for that would be useful.
> 
> Thanks 
> Bob AD5VJ
>

Re: [digitalradio] WinDrm

[Andrew O'Brien]

I will upload it to the files section here.

Andy K3UK


On 12/30/06, wb4mnk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  I am trying to get Windrm setup but can not fine the melp_dll.zip file
and when we try and open we get an error message. I have tried this web
site www.rarewares.org/files/others/melp_dll.zip but for some reason
the web site will not come up. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Art
WB4MNK







--
Andy K3UK
Skype Me :  callto://andyobrien73
www.obriensweb.com

Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?

[KD5NWA]

KV9U wrote:
> 1.This is a bit off topic, but I have often wondered why some windows 
> programs require Windows Registries and some work completely without 
> this. What causes a software author to cross the line that requires 
> those registry entries and all the complications that go with it?
> 
> 2. USB pens can be a lifesaver. A year ago we needed a particular 
> software program to run for Field Day and although I had the program on 
> my computer, we needed to put it on some other ones and of course no 
> more floppy drives. USB pen to the rescue. Had never used one before.
> 
> 3. Speaking of OS and USB pens, this may be one of those times to 
> consider using one of the Linux distributions that has been specifically 
> designed for this kind of media. The amateur radio software quantity and 
> quality seems to finally be getting better on Linux although it still 
> has a long way to catch up to MS OS software.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Rick, KV9U
> 
> Dave Bernstein wrote:
> 
>> Bob did not suggest a docking station, Sal, he suggested a second 
>> hard drive. I have used his recommended solution with my IBM T42P 
>> laptop, and it works extremely well; one can swap "identities" in the 
>> time required to terminate Windows and reboot; the physical drive 
>> swap takes a few seconds.
>>
>> With respect to your claim that "The USB PEN drive will work on 
>> almost every computer provided that the programs were correctly 
>> installed", I suggest that you (carefully) open the Windows Registry 
>> editor and examine the Software sections of HKCU and HKLM -- you'll 
>> find that DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, LotW, and QRZ all 
>> maintain settings there. Other popular digital mode applications may 
>> as well -- I don't have Digipan, MixW, or MultiPSK currently 
>> installed on this PC, and my examination was cursory. There is no way 
>> to "properly install" any of DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, LotW, 
>> or the QRZ CDROM callbook in a way that makes them pen-drive portable.
>>
>> There are web pages that list pen-drive portable applications, e.g.
>>
>> http://pendriveapps.com/
>>
>> and
>>
>> http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl/article/view/369/656
>>
>> but I've found no mention of digital mode amateur radio applications 
>> so far. Establishing such a list would be helpful, but I suggest that 
>> an application only be added after
>>
>> 1. its author asserts that the application is pen-drive portable
>>
>> 2. someone actually tests the application in a pen-drive portable 
>> configuration
>>
>> It would also be useful to compare performance in a pen-drive 
>> configuration vs. a hard-drive configuration.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Dave, AA6YQ
>>  

I use Puppy Linux on a USB stick as a emergency data recovery OS from a 
failed system and it works great as a general purpose OS, I also use it 
when I travel to deal with on-line banking, I can use anyones PC and not 
leave anything on their system.

It has Open office, mail setup, and anything else I need,  so my stick 
makes anyone elses' machine have all my tools without making any changes 
to their PC.



-- 

Cecil
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com

"Sacred Cows make the best Hamburger!"  Don Seglio Batuna

[digitalradio] New file uploaded to digitalradio

[digitalradio]

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the digitalradio 
group.

  File: /melp_dll.dll 
  Uploaded by : obrienaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  Description : melp DLL for WinDRM 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/files/melp_dll.dll 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

obrienaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 

[digitalradio] WinDrm

[wb4mnk]

I am trying to get Windrm setup but can not fine the melp_dll.zip file 
and when we try and open we get an error message. I have tried this web 
site www.rarewares.org/files/others/melp_dll.zip but for some reason 
the web site will not come up. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Art
WB4MNK

[digitalradio] MFSK PIX

[John Bradley]

hi Andy;

Saw u working K5ZZ , Bill and W6VZV , Roger. like you I could copy the pix sent 
by K5ZZ and sent him a couple, but for some reason
Roger could not copy pix. He is using 2 screens, so wonder if that might be a 
problem? 

K5ZZ go way back into the dark ages, keyboard to keyboard pactor 1

John
VE5MU

RE: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?

[Peter G. Viscarola]

>
>1.This is a bit off topic, but I have often wondered why some windows 
>programs require Windows Registries and some work completely without 
>this. What causes a software author to cross the line that requires 
>those registry entries and all the complications that go with it?
>

It mostly comes down to personal preference of the developer, combined
with "policy pressure" from Microsoft.  When you have settings to save
across program invocations (user preferences, window position and size,
etc) it's equally easy to save these preference in an .ini file (which
is typically located in the \windows directory or in the directory from
which the program is invoked -- this is also up to the program's author)
or in the Registry.  According to Microsoft's latest guidance, .ini
files are SUPPOSED to be obsolete.  User's can too easily delete them
(when they're placed in the \windows directory) and, after all, the
whole reason the Registry exists is to have a central place to store
system and program cofiguration settings.

For operating system level programs such as device drivers, or for
windows "services" (what they call daemons in Unix), there's no choice
but to create entries in the Registry.  Windows looks for specific
registry settings to determine which of these components to start and at
what time.

The above is a bit of a simplification, of course, but is correct as a
general outline.

de Peter K1PGV

[digitalradio] DX Cluster spots today

[Andrew O'Brien]

Just a reminder folks that our cluster is available at 
telnet://dynalias.org

A VK2, a DL8, and 3 K stations currently connected .

Latest activity spotted ...


DX de K3UK:   3579.0  W1SSF PSK Maine0347Z

DX de VK2TMG:14078.4  CQOlivia 500/16   0355Z 

DX de K3UK:   3583.5  N9DSJ MFSK16  0355Z 05
DX de K3UK:   7082.0  AI4CM MT63-500-LG 1609Z 05
DX de K3UK:   7072.8  K2TFT OLIVIA-8-5001612Z 05
DX de K3UK:  14078.0  W5APS HELL1615Z 05
DX de K3UK:  14078.0  AI4FR HELL1616Z 05
DX de K3UK:  14080.0  KZ1Z  HELL FH008  1623Z 05
DX de K3UK:  14073.7  W6VZV MFSK16  with pictures. 1632Z 5

Re: [digitalradio] AEA232MBX

[KV9U]

Bob,

Many years ago, after running HB RTTY stuff and even a Model 15,  I had 
different multimode digital boxes, Kantronics UTU, CP-1 with software to 
operate with other computers, and later the disasterous HAL P-38 that 
could never do quality Pactor, and Clover II that was not that great 
either in terms of handling weak signal conditions. This caused me to 
turn away from digital operation for a number of years until the 
soundcard modes became available.

It is interesting that the person who started the digital revolution 
after RTTY, with the development of Amtor, was also the same person who 
started the new sound card digital revolution with PSK31.

The multimode boxes did not really do that many modes by today's 
standards: mostly Amtor, Pactor I, CW, 110 baud ASCII, RTTY. The main 
advantage to using the older multimode controllers now is having the 
ability to do Pactor I modes as Amtor and Clover II are pretty much dead 
and 110 baud ASCII turned out to be a dud but allowed us to use the full 
ASCII character set for digital modes. Sound card RTTY is quite good now 
and surpasses dedicated boxes with older technology.

If you want an ARQ mode that runs on MS OS, then a used multimode boxes 
may be a good choice. If you want faster ARQ modes on MS OS you have to 
buy the fairly expensive and proprietary SCS product from Germany that 
can run Pactor 2 and 3 but this would be for a special purpose such as 
connecting to an e-mail system since these modes are rarely used for 
casual contacts, DXing, etc.

If you are willing to use Linux OS, you can run a Pactor I application 
although some have said it operates very poorly and has not been updated 
for years or you can run the PSKmail program that also permits ARQ chat 
as well as e-mail. At this time there would be very few using this mode.

The worst possible choice would be to purchase a new multimode box from 
Kantronics or AEA/Timewave since the prices on these products are very 
high now relative to value you get with the SCS product, if you need 
that capability.

For general digital QSO's, the sound card modes are going to be the best 
way from a cost and operational standpoint since there continue to be 
new modes created.

73,

Rick, KV9U



AD5VJ Bob wrote:

>I have had an AEA 232MBX, in fact two of them, for quite some time now. 
>
>I used to use them all the time for RTTY and packet, but I am wondering if 
>these units no longer any good for Ham Radio, because of
>the advent of Computers, the Digital Software for RTTY and Telnet for spotting 
>and the passing away of PACTOR I.
>
>I know I can get upgrades for them for soundcard, ect. But is there any use in 
>doing that since I run soundcard applications from
>the computer. Are they of more advantage than the sound card on my computer or 
>would I be wasting my time, money and effort?
>
>Can someone tell me if these are good for *anything* viable these days or is 
>it true that they are just dinosaurs now? 
>
>I cant understand how they are still being sold at such high prices new, if 
>they are of no use, I just don't know what to use them
>for that would be useful.
>
>Thanks 
>Bob AD5VJ
>
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?

[KV9U]

1.This is a bit off topic, but I have often wondered why some windows 
programs require Windows Registries and some work completely without 
this. What causes a software author to cross the line that requires 
those registry entries and all the complications that go with it?

2. USB pens can be a lifesaver. A year ago we needed a particular 
software program to run for Field Day and although I had the program on 
my computer, we needed to put it on some other ones and of course no 
more floppy drives. USB pen to the rescue. Had never used one before.

3. Speaking of OS and USB pens, this may be one of those times to 
consider using one of the Linux distributions that has been specifically 
designed for this kind of media. The amateur radio software quantity and 
quality seems to finally be getting better on Linux although it still 
has a long way to catch up to MS OS software.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Dave Bernstein wrote:

>Bob did not suggest a docking station, Sal, he suggested a second 
>hard drive. I have used his recommended solution with my IBM T42P 
>laptop, and it works extremely well; one can swap "identities" in the 
>time required to terminate Windows and reboot; the physical drive 
>swap takes a few seconds.
>
>With respect to your claim that "The USB PEN drive will work on 
>almost every computer provided that the programs were correctly 
>installed", I suggest that you (carefully) open the Windows Registry 
>editor and examine the Software sections of HKCU and HKLM -- you'll 
>find that DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, LotW, and QRZ all 
>maintain settings there. Other popular digital mode applications may 
>as well -- I don't have Digipan, MixW, or MultiPSK currently 
>installed on this PC, and my examination was cursory. There is no way 
>to "properly install" any of DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, LotW, 
>or the QRZ CDROM callbook in a way that makes them pen-drive portable.
>
>There are web pages that list pen-drive portable applications, e.g.
>
>http://pendriveapps.com/
>
>and
>
>http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl/article/view/369/656
>
>but I've found no mention of digital mode amateur radio applications 
>so far. Establishing such a list would be helpful, but I suggest that 
>an application only be added after
>
>1. its author asserts that the application is pen-drive portable
>
>2. someone actually tests the application in a pen-drive portable 
>configuration
>
>It would also be useful to compare performance in a pen-drive 
>configuration vs. a hard-drive configuration.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
>  
>

[digitalradio] AEA232MBX

[AD5VJ Bob]

I have had an AEA 232MBX, in fact two of them, for quite some time now. 

I used to use them all the time for RTTY and packet, but I am wondering if 
these units no longer any good for Ham Radio, because of
the advent of Computers, the Digital Software for RTTY and Telnet for spotting 
and the passing away of PACTOR I.

I know I can get upgrades for them for soundcard, ect. But is there any use in 
doing that since I run soundcard applications from
the computer. Are they of more advantage than the sound card on my computer or 
would I be wasting my time, money and effort?

Can someone tell me if these are good for *anything* viable these days or is it 
true that they are just dinosaurs now? 

I cant understand how they are still being sold at such high prices new, if 
they are of no use, I just don't know what to use them
for that would be useful.

Thanks 
Bob AD5VJ

[digitalradio] New WinDRM released

[Andrew O'Brien]

-- Forwarded message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



windrm-18-dec-06 released and available for download at:

http://n1su.com/windrm/windrm-18-dec-06.zip


This update includes the FastBSR feature!



Happy New Year!

--
73 Jason N1SU
http://n1su.com/

Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks to all for their feedback.

Bob, I work for a company with a large IT department and have data on my
laptop that is subject to federal privacy laws and some lower level homeland
security bulletins..  I am saddled with carrying a couple of RSA tokens with
me as extra protection for certain areas that I access remotely.

My company however does participate in emergency communication drills and
has a liasion to RACES/ARES, I am that liaison.  Based on the feedback
received from the group, I am not able to install software to a pen drive
without some finger prints being left in the registry.  So, I will install
only software related to emergency preparedness and emergency
communications.  DX Lab suite (logging ,propagation guides)  , Multipsk
(APRS, robust digital modes) , and Winlink 2000 /Telpac (NTS)  appear to be
applications that meet that need.   I will keep most of that on a pen drive
.

Andy K3UK.


On 12/29/06, Robert Chudek - KØRC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


   I am suggesting a 2.5" HDD caddy, like these:
http://newmode.us/caddies/  If you are lucky to get a new laptop, you
simply purchase the appropriate caddy and move the HDD into it.

I will speculate the vast majority of digital radio reflector subscribers
are from the "roll your own" camp. The idea that an IT department would hand
you a new laptop, have all the applications setup, have all the login
scripts created, all the forced password renewals installed, and have your
access to the operating system *locked* *out*... is a little hard to
believe. But this is the reality in most corporations today.

IF Andy works for a company that has no IT department (or has weak IT
policies), he may have free reign over the laptop configuration. IF NOT, my
solution is the safest way to keep his business use and personal use of the
company asset separated.

For the rest of us who "roll our own"... maybe you're lucky to work in the
IT department. If not, you might be participating in a "career limiting
activity". When it involved our corporate network/computer security, I have
personally seen more than one person walked out the front door.

In any case, I am way off topic for the Digitalradio Forum. Sometimes I
get up on the soapbox. I do hope I shed some light on methods companies use
to keep their computer environments "safe".

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN



- Original Message -
*From:* Salomao Fresco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2006 8:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?



Well, I believe your solution is way more complicated to perform.
Besides, what use will have the docking station if the laptop gets
replaced for instace for another brand?

The USB PEN drive will work on almost every computer provided that the
programs were correctly installed.
And there is enough space on a 2Gb pen drive to install a version of
the SO of your choice and make it bootable.

I know what I'm talking, because I've allready done it.

The docking station is waaay more expensive than the 20 bucks of a pen
drive.

Give it a try, if it doesn't work, the worst that can happen is
getting "stuck with" a usb pen drive that can carrie a lot of files.

Think of it.

Regards

On 12/30/06, Robert Chudek - KØRC <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:
> Well in christ's name (your terminology), your solution doesn't solve
Andy's
> problem of putting personal software on a company computer. You missed
the
> part that the registry is going to get updated (if it is even
accessible).
> Read on.
>
> Credible IT departments tie down the operating system very tight in
order to
> reduce the probability of employees hauling worms, viruses, and other
crap
> into the office and spreading it across the Enterprise. I know, I ran a
> corporate IT department for 8 years. From a pure IT perspective, laptops
are
> the most dangerous PC's on the Enterprise. It's much easier to control
and
> manage desktop machines.
>
> The solution I would propose is to purchase a new drive and caddy for
the
> laptop. Typically there is one screw that holds the HDD into the laptop
and
> that screw is accessible from the outside of the case. Depending on the
> drive size you want, this can be less than a $100 investment.
>
> Get your own drive, format it up, load your OS, and install your
personal
> applications. Swap the drives when you want to run your radio
applications
> at home. But be aware if you bring your laptop into work with your
personal
> drive installed, you'll get hauled in front of the CIO to explain why
you
> are putting the company infrastructure in jeopardy. And the incident
will be
> written up in your permanent record.
>
> If this sounds blunt and excessive... well you don't understand the
> nightmares IT departments face, trying to support large networks that
wrap
> around the world.
>
> I don't know for whom Andy works, but if it's a large corporation with
an IT
> staff, he may find the screw holding the disk caddy int