Re: [digitalradio] Digital Voice update #2 - programmers wanted - codec2 and the G3PLX modem

2010-08-29 Thread Trevor .
--- On Sat, 28/8/10, Kristoff Bonne  wrote:
> I do not understand why -say- the IARU does not does this. I'm not 
> say they should endorce any "standard" of any technology.

Unfortunately it would require a volunteer willing to put in a lot of hard work 
to do. Volunteers are always in short supply. 

One existing source of info is 

http://www.arrl.org/technical-characteristics 

But this doesn't provide always provide detailed description of a mode, for 
instance you couldn't recreate Pactor-III from the information supplied there. 
Also I suspect it's not kept up to date with mode enhancements. 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  



[digitalradio] Tokyo Ham Fair Videos

2010-08-22 Thread Trevor .
Videos of some of the new equipment at the Tokyo Ham Fair can be seen at 

http://www.southgatearc.org/news/august2010/tokyo_ham_fair.htm 

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[digitalradio] AMSAT-UK Videos

2010-08-08 Thread Trevor .
This may be of interest for those interested in learning more about Amateur 
Satellites:

Videos of the presentations given at the 25th AMSAT-UK International Space 
Colloquium, held July 31-August 1, are now available on the web. They can be 
viewed and downloaded at 

http://www.batc.tv/

Click on the 'Film Archive' icon and then select a 2010 AMSAT video.

The presentation given by RSGB Microwave Manager Murray Niman G6JYB called 
"2010 AMSAT What's New" provides a good overview of the process involved in 
getting new Amateur and Amateur Satellite service allocations. Currently there 
are no global Primary Amateur bands between 146MHz and 24GHz.

The full Colloquium schedule can be seen at
http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/713/284/1/2/

AMSAT-UK publishes a colour A4 newsletter, OSCAR News, full of Amateur 
Satellite information. Join online https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subs_form/

Getting started on Amateur Radio Satellites PDF
http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/408/168/


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[digitalradio] Webcast of AMSAT-UK Space Colloquium this Saturday/Sunday

2010-07-30 Thread Trevor .
The 2010 International Space Colloquium, the 25th held by AMSAT-UK, is taking 
place this weekend at the Holiday Inn, Guildford, GU2 7XZ, England.

Watch the Colloquium live during this weekend July 31-Aug 1 at
http://www.batc.tv/ - Click on Live Events 

Weekend Schedule - Times are GMT+1
http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/713/284/

AMSAT-UK publish a color A4 newsletter, OSCAR News, that is full of
Amateur Satellite information.
Join online at https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subs_form/

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Re: AW: AW: [digitalradio] Operating ROS In USA

2010-07-20 Thread Trevor .
--- On Tue, 20/7/10, KH6TY  wrote:
> The FCC has actually analyzed the mode (to my surprise!) 

Hi Skip, 

I know we've been round this loop before but I'd still like to see the report 
the FCC are alleged to have produced. If it does exist I'd have though a US 
citizen would be able to get it via a Freedom of Information Act request.

http://www.fcc.gov/foia/ 

I know ARRL's Dan Henderson N1ND asked a couple of Amateurs about the mode and 
they thought it was SS but we don't know on what basis.

Do you know if any US amateurs are raising a Petition for Rulemaking to move to 
regulation by bandwidth instead of mode ? 

Irrespective of what you think of the merits of one particular mode the current 
FCC regs are archaic with respect to digital modes and can only impede 
development. 

73 Trevor M5AKA










  


[digitalradio] Where are our innovators?

2010-07-11 Thread Trevor .
We clearly need to encourage innovation in Amateur Radio. Many potential 
innovators may be people working in the fields of Software or Communications 
who are not currently Radio Amateurs. 

The question is what can we do to encourage people with expertise in these 
areas to join the Amateur Radio community ? I'd be interested in the thoughts 
of those on this list. 

While reading the article below I was stuck by the fact that an Amateur Radio 
Innovation Competition had only received one entry. This perhaps indicates that 
Amateur Radio innovators are in short supply at the moment! 

From: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/july2010/innovation_in_ar.htm 

The South African Amateur Radio Development Trust has thus far received one 
entry in the Innovation in Amateur Radio Competition from an Amateur in the UK.

Radio amateurs and technologists are invited to submit projects that will 
innovate amateur radio whether it is software, amateur radio and the Internet, 
the development of compact HF antennas for flat and complex dwellers or 
innovation in Emergency Communications. 


73 Trevor M5AKA



  



[digitalradio] UK Hellschreiber balloon launch Friday 1800 UT

2010-07-07 Thread Trevor .
Possibly the first balloon launch to carry Hellschreiber, see 

http://www.southgatearc.org/news/july2010/hellschreiber_balloon_launch.htm 

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[digitalradio] HF/VHF PLT (BPL) Report

2010-06-25 Thread Trevor .
These devices transmit digital HF signals across the RF spectrum from 2-300 
MHz. The interference from them can have a range of 1000 feet from the home 
they are installed in. 

PLT Radio Frequency Interference Report
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2010/ofcom_plt_report.htm

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Re: [digitalradio] What is here Spread Spectrum and why and what is not?

2010-06-02 Thread Trevor .
--- On Wed, 2/6/10, KH6TY  wrote:
> The FCC engineers have performed the same spectral analysis and
> informed the ARRL that the mode is truly spread spectrum.

That's interesting, the FCC have said they they did not give judgments on 
individual data modes, it's up to the operator to decide.

Who were the FCC engineers you mention, where is their report and who in ARRL 
HQ did they communicate with. 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  



Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP

2010-06-02 Thread Trevor .
--- On Wed, 2/6/10, Dave Sparks  wrote:
> Found the section.  It is
> 97.309(a)(4) of the code:
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/technical-characteristics
> 
> The reverse-engineering part is an inference on my part.

No chance of reverse-engineering Pactor III from the information provided. 

73 Trevor M5AKA 



  



[digitalradio] HAM-MAG Article - Digital Sound Card Modes

2010-05-26 Thread Trevor .
A 7 page article on getting started with digital sound cards modes appears in 
the May 2010 issue of HAM-MAG

P17 - Getting Started with Digital Sound Card Modes with the Yaesu FT817 
Transceiver

The May 2010 issue can be downloaded free from 

http://ham.france.free.fr/crbst_17.html 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  



[digitalradio] Slow Scan TV Pictures from Space

2010-05-11 Thread Trevor .
The Radio Amateurs on the International Space Station (ISS) will be 
transmitting Slow Scan TV pictures on 145.800 MHz on Thursday and Friday May 
13-14. 

The transmissions will take place in Robot-36 mode on Thursday May 13 from 
10:00 - 17:00 UTC and on Friday May 14 from 12:45 - 16:00 UTC.

Previous activations of the SSTV system have produced some good images that can 
be seen on the ARISS SSTV picture gallery site.

The ISS puts out a strong signal on 145.800 MHz FM and a 2m handheld with a 1/4 
wave groundplane antenna will be enough to receive it.

The FM transmission uses 5 kHz deviation which is standard in much of the 
world. Many FM rigs in the UK can be switched been wide and narrow deviation FM 
filters so select the wider deviation. Handhelds all seem to have a single wide 
filter fitted as standard.

Free PC sound card Slow Scan TV software such as MMSSTV can be used to display 
the pictures and you can use software such as the IZ8BLY Vox Recoder to save 
the audio for later decoding if you are away at work.

Information on the MAI-75 SSTV experiment
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/researches/education-26.html

How to access the ISS Slow Scan TV
http://www.marexmg.org/fileshtml/howtoitv.html

Free Slow Scan TV Software MMSSTV uses your PCs Soundcard
http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/

IZ8BLY Vox Recoder, enables you to record the signals from the ISS on
145.800 MHz while you're away at work
http://xoomer.alice.it/aporcino/VoxRecorder/

Simple Rig to PC Audio Interface
http://www.southgatearc.org/articles/g0ftd/data_dummy_interface.htm 

ISS Real Time Tracking (tick draw footprint)
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=25544

Amateur Radio on the International Space station (ARISS) SSTV picture gallery
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/SSTV/

ISS Fan Club
http://www.issfanclub.com/

AMSAT-UK http://www.uk.amsat.org/ publish a colour A4 newsletter, OSCAR News, 
that is full of Amateur Satellite information.
Join online at https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subs_form

----
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Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-11 Thread Trevor .
Hi Steinar, 

I've never used WINLINK and know little about it but I'd imagine they use a 
standard and freely available compression algorithms. Perhaps someone else can 
comment.

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Tue, 11/5/10, Steinar Aanesland  wrote:
> Is it posible to monitor the content of a WINLINK
> transmission? 
> As fare as I know the WINLINK data is compressed. I have
> never been able to monitor WINLINK with my SCS TNC.
> 
> la5vna Steinar



  


Re: [digitalradio] Re: Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-11 Thread Trevor .
The FCC Electronic Comment Filing System is at 

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/ 

This loks like the one 
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/proceeding/view?z=zcrgt&name=10-98

there's one comment already.

73 Trevor M5AKA





  


Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-11 Thread Trevor .
The discussion regarding Pactor III has relevance to earlier discussions on 
this list concerning a new mode. 

Whether you like Pactor III or not it's clear the FCC permits US amateurs to 
use it and they regard the level of documention available on it to be adequate. 

I suspect the only concern of the FCC like other regulators regarding new modes 
is not the documentation but whether they can either buy a unit or freely 
download a software executable that enables them to monitor the content of the 
transmissions. 

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Tue, 11/5/10, Steinar Aanesland  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andy
> 
> Are you allowed to use a proprietary mode on the HAM band
> in US? In
> Norway we are not.
> 
> la5vna Steinar



  


[digitalradio] Live webstream of D-STAR CubeSat Presentation

2010-04-22 Thread Trevor .
The OUFTI-1 CubeSat will operate D-STAR and a presentation on the satellite by 
Questiaux Lo will take place Friday at 09:20 PST, 16:20 GMT, 17:20 BST (if I 
can convert times correctly) and can be watched at 

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/CubeSatWorkshop/v3 

Full Presentation Schedule at 
http://cubesat.org/images/workshopschedule_final.pdf 

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Re: [digitalradio] 3rd Generation Digital radio

2010-04-20 Thread Trevor .
--- On Tue, 20/4/10, "John Becker, WØJAB"  wrote:
> I can't think back this far. What
> came first -
> Packer or Amtor  (ARQ mode to boot) .

Good question 

Amtor was developed by G3PLX circa 1979/1980.  

The first issue of the TAPR Packet Status Report newsletter was July 1982, see 
http://www.ka9q.net/psr-1.pdf 

So I guess a form of packet must have been in use slightly earlier than that

73 Trevor M5AKA




  


Re: [digitalradio] 3rd Generation Digital radio

2010-04-20 Thread Trevor .
I'd say the 3rd generation has been available for several years now. 

Both Kenwood and ICOM manufacture VHF and UHF mobiles, handhelds and repeaters 
for the new standard. 

The key advantage is its spectrum efficiency. It supports both voice and data 
but uses 6.25 kHz channel spacing. D-STAR typically needs 10 kHz channel 
spacing. 

2010 - NXDN™ Forum and dPMR MoU collaboration 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/march2010/nxdn_dpmr_collaboration.htm 

2009 - Guide to Digital PMR 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/august2009/guide_to_digital_pmr.htm 

2008 - Icom IC-F4029SDR Transceiver for Digital PMR 446 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/march2008/digital_pmr_446.htm 

2008 - The Gadget Show tests digital and analog walkie talkies 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/november2008/gadget_show_radio_tests.htm 

2007 - Ofcom statement on Digital PMR-446 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/september2007/digital_pmr446.htm 

73 Trevor M5AKA 








  



[digitalradio] Live Video Streaming of Arecibo EME April 16-18

2010-04-16 Thread Trevor .
It is claimed the 432.045 MHz Moon Bounce signal from KP4AO, Arecibo, Puerto 
Rico, on April 16-18 will be so strong that it can be heard with just a small 
hand-held Yagi pointed at the moon. 

Live Video Streaming is at 
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/kp4ao-eme 

Arecibo on 432.045 MHz Moon Bounce (transmission times) 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/april2010/arecibo_432_moonbounce.htm

Arecibo Coverage Maps
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/april2010/arecibo_coverage_maps.htm

Arecibo Video Tours
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/april2010/arecibo_video_tours.htm

Satscape Tracking Software
http://www.satscape.co.uk/ 

WSJT JT65B EME Software
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/

UK Ham makes EME contact with just 25 watts
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2008/record_eme_contact.htm

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[digitalradio] Solar Powered D-STAR Repeater

2010-04-10 Thread Trevor .
ON4BK's D-STAR repeater ON0CPS is possibly the first to operate entirely on 
solar energy 

ON0CPS operates in the Amateur Radio 70cm band with 439.5625 MHz output and 
431.9625 MHz input. During the day there is usually enough sun to keep the 
repeater going and charge the two 120Ah batteries which power the repeater at 
night. So far the repeater has been running over a month on solar power alone.

Source: Royal Union of Belgian Radio Amateurs (UBA) 
http://tinyurl.com/BelgiumUBA 

ON4BK website http://tinyurl.com/yyajoxx 

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[digitalradio] Innovation in Amateur Radio + Satellite Digital Amateur TV

2010-04-04 Thread Trevor .
Innovation in Amateur Radio - an new exciting project 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/april2010/innovation_in_amateur_radio.htm 

New flight opportunity for CubeSats 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/april2010/cubesat_flight_opportunities.htm 

Columbus Module Update - Satellite Digital Amateur TV (DATV)
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/april2010/ariss_columbus_update.htm 

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[digitalradio] FCC - Spread Spectrum NPRM

2010-03-18 Thread Trevor .
Regarding Spread Spectrum Notice of Proposed Rule Making (NPRM)
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/03/18/11396/?nc=1 

It proposes to reduce some of the restrictions on Spread Spectrum but 
unfortunately does nothing about permitting the use at HF and VHF of SS modes 
that completely fit within the bandwidth of a phone signal (say 3 kHz on HF and 
15 kHz on VHF). 

It says comments can be filed on or before 30 days after date of publication in 
the Federal Register. Instructions on how to file comments on the NPRM only are 
listed on pages 6-7 in the NPRM.

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-38A1.pdf 

Electronic Comment Filing System 
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/ 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  


Re: [digitalradio] Re: Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

2010-03-13 Thread Trevor .
No sign of the original here either. 

YU7EF doesn't say which group he wants to be removed from out of the many Yahoo 
and Gmail groups he sent the email to. 

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Re: [digitalradio] SS definitions

2010-03-10 Thread Trevor .
--- On Wed, 10/3/10, KH6TY  wrote:
> Alan, though we may disagree as to the amount or nature of FHSS in ROS, 
> the bottom line is that the FCC engineers, as well as the ARRL engineers,
> reviewed both the documentation and the signal footprint, and have 
> concluded it is FHSS. 

Who are these "FCC Engineers" ? All we've has is a response from someone that 
may be assumed to be an office clerk who simply quoted back the words in Part 
97. 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  


[digitalradio] Higher Data Rates - MIL-ST-188-110C

2010-03-10 Thread Trevor .
PowerPoint of a presentation 'Wideband HF Waveform Design for MIL-ST-188-110C' 
given by Eric Johnson at last months HFIA meeting is at 

http://www.hfindustry.com/meetings_presentations/presentation_materials/2010_feb_hfia/presentations/hfia02eej.pdf
 

It outlines would could be achieved for HF groundwave comms using 256 QAM 

3 kHz Bandwidth  -  16000 bits per second 
24 kHz Bandwidth - 12 bits per second 

Obviously the raw data rate for both waveforms is significantly higher due to 
error correction overheads. 

I was thinking a 120,000 bps rate would permit Amateurs to send Video in the 29 
MHz and 50 MHz bands. 

Other HFIA PowerPoints at 
http://www.hfindustry.com/meetings_presentations/2010_feb_hfia.htm 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  



Re: [digitalradio] 1976 FCC - Delete all Emission Types from Part 97

2010-03-08 Thread Trevor .
Thanks for the reply Skip. 

As you probably know the scenario is different over here with the regulations 
permitting bandwidth up to the size of the band, no emission type restriction, 
no mandatory band plans and complete freedom to develop your own modes with IDs 
given in whichever mode you are using. It is baffling at times trying to 
understand the situation in the States.

I guess it has a lot to do with history and access to "phone bands" being 
determined by license class and of course various groups keen to protect their 
patch.  

New modes can appear and then disappear far too quickly for any formal 
regulation process to keep up with, Amateurs have to work out for themselves 
means of voluntarily sharing the spectrum. It does work outside the States. 

I'm sure within a few years someone will develop an efficient digital Voice 
mode (with license free Codec) that will exceed the performance of SSB on most 
paths, then we'll all be digital users and the strict divide between digital 
and phone will disappear. 

73 Trevor M5AKA




  



[digitalradio] 1976 FCC - Delete all Emission Types from Part 97

2010-03-08 Thread Trevor .
Following the recent discussions about the US license restrictions I was 
looking through the archive of QST mags at www.arrl.org 

On April 22, 1976 the FCC introduced Docket 20777, the QST report (page June 
1976) says 

"Rather than further complicate the present rules," the Commission said, "with 
additional provisions to accomodate the petitioners' requests, we are herein 
proposing to delete all references to specific emission types in Part 97 of the 
Rules. "We propose, instead," the Commission continued, "to replace the present 
provisions with limitations on the permissible bandwidth which an amateur 
signal may occupy in the various amateur frequency bands. Within the authorised 
limitations any emission would be permitted." 

It would seem that deletion of emission types from Part 97 is exactly what is 
needed now to permit experimentation. Perhaps the FCC should be asked to 
re-introduce Docket 20777 

Trevor 



  


Re: [digitalradio] Dominoex revisited

2010-03-05 Thread Trevor .
The link on the 2005 Southgate apge should now read: 

http://www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/MFSK/DEX.htm 

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Fri, 5/3/10, Trevor .  wrote:

> From: Trevor . 
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Dominoex revisited
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 5 March, 2010, 13:23
> --- On Fri, 5/3/10, Andy obrien
> 
> wrote:
> > It has been a few years since
> > Dominoex was added to our tool box.  I
> > still see it on the air from time to time but  not
> on
> > a daily basis.
> > I wonder why it is not used ?
> > 
> > http://www.southgatearc.org/news/december2005/domino_ex.htm
> 
> I wonder that myself, the mode has a lot going for it. 
> 
> BTW the link for original DominoEX download site in the
> page above no longer works but Domino is supported in Fldigi
> at 
> 
> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html 
> 
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


  



Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL/FCC Announcement about ROS

2010-03-05 Thread Trevor .
All the ARRL announcement really does is reference the FCC statement of Feb. 
23. 

That statement said the FCC was not going to say if it considered ROS to be 
spread spectrum. Individual operators were the ones responsible for making a 
decision. 

The FCC has never said ROS is "illegal" nor have the ARRL. 

I've had a trawl through the FCC site but couldn't find a definition there of 
what they mean by the words "Spread Spectrum" and it's their definition that 
matters not other peoples. 

If the FCC were concerned about the use of ROS on HF you would have thought 
they would have written to at least one of the US stations that they had 
observed using it and informed them of a breach of regulations. I am not aware 
that they have done so. 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  


Re: [digitalradio] Dominoex revisited

2010-03-05 Thread Trevor .
--- On Fri, 5/3/10, Andy obrien  wrote:
> It has been a few years since
> Dominoex was added to our tool box.  I
> still see it on the air from time to time but  not on
> a daily basis.
> I wonder why it is not used ?
> 
> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/december2005/domino_ex.htm

I wonder that myself, the mode has a lot going for it. 

BTW the link for original DominoEX download site in the page above no longer 
works but Domino is supported in Fldigi at 

http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  


Re: [digitalradio] Re: The FCC's definition of Spread Spectrum

2010-02-26 Thread Trevor .
--- On Fri, 26/2/10, DaveNF2G  wrote:
> File a federal lawsuit stating that the FCC's
> "determination" that ROS is SS and therefore unlawful on HF
> bands in the USA is arbitrary and capricious, based on the

My interpretation from over on this side of the Atlantic is that the FCC DID 
NOT say ROS was unlawful on HF. In fact in the response at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/34812 

they specifically do not state the Commissions View on ROS saying: 
"The Commission does not determine if a particular mode "truly" represents 
spread spectrum as it is defined in the rules."

The sentence: 
"ROS" is viewed as "spread spectrum," and the creator of the system describes 
it as that. 
Is NOT giving the Commissions determination of the mode. They are simply noting 
what is said in the original "Request for clarification", which was basically 
some that Radio Amateurs view it as SS, hence the debate, and the author of the 
mode did indeed describe it as such. 

The FCC simply say it is up to the Operator to make a decision as to whether a 
mode is in breach of regulations. 

It is worth remembering that US Amateurs have been using CHIP64 on HF for 5 
years, a long time. It is a Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum mode and described 
as such on the ARRL website. I am not aware of the FCC having had a problem 
with Amateur usage of that mode on HF. 

Out of curiosity what is the initial response of the FCC if an Amateur where to 
breach one of the regs ? Is it to sent them a letter informing them of the 
breach and asking them to desist ? 

Long term the solution looks like reform of the license regs but that may be 
easier said than done. 

It's over 32 years since the FCC itself first proposed band planning by 
bandwidth (their plan was for 350 Hz, 3.5 kHz, 7.5 kHz etc bandwidth segments) 
and 5 years since the ARRL submitted a similar proposal. 

Perhaps a 3rd attempt at changing introducing bandwidth planning will be 
successful ? I hope so. 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  



Re: [digitalradio] FCC Technology Jail: ROS Dead on HF for USA Hams

2010-02-22 Thread Trevor .
--- On Mon, 22/2/10, expeditionradio  wrote:
> Several years ago, there was a proposal to FCC to provide
> regulation by bandwidth rather than content. However, it
> failed to be adopted, and ARRL's petition to limit bandwidth
> was withdrawn

And the irony is that in 1977 (33 years ago!) the FCC itself proposed band 
planning by bandwidth with segments for 350 Hz, 3.5 kHz and 7.5 kHz. At the 
time the ARRL bitterly opposed it and the FCC withdrew the proposal.

However, there may be scope in interpretation of the regs. Up until a few years 
ago many US amateurs were under the impression that you could only send a 
maximum of 300 bits per second on HF. What the rules actually specified was a 
maximum symbol rate of 300 Baud and, probably because no had thought to do so, 
there was no limit specified on the number of carriers you could transmit. 
That's how these days US hams can run digital voice/sstv. 

So it's down to interpretation and it'll hinge on the FCC's formal definition 
of Spread Spectrum with luck ROS will fall outside of it. 

Does anybody plan to contact the FCC this morning to get their view ? 

73 Trevor M5AKA





  



Re: [digitalradio] ROS 14.101 MHz

2010-02-20 Thread Trevor .
IARU Region 1 bandplan indicates 14.080 is for modes using less than 500 Hz 
B/W. 

Bandwidths up to 2700 Hz are permitted above 14.101 MHz. 

http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/bandplans/rsgb_band_plan_2010.htm 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  



[digitalradio] ISS SSTV Robot-36 Today 145.800 MHz

2010-01-27 Thread Trevor .
The International Space Station is transmitting Robot-36 SSTV on 145.800 MHz 
today between 0900-1400 UTC and mode PD-160 on Thursday and Friday

>From http://ariss-sstv.blogspot.com/

Jan MAI-75 update
A bit more info to share. The Wed (Jan 27) operations will be
conducted using the VC-H1 in automatic mode which means Robot-36 mode
images being transmitted once every 3 minutes on 145.80 MHz. This
should occur worldwide during the time frame of 0900-1400 UTC.
The operations on Thursday and Friday (Jan 28-29) will be in mode
PD-160 using MMSSTV and will occur when the ISS is in proximity of
western Russia.

Further details on the ISS SSTV experiment at
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2010/iss_sstv.htm

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[digitalradio] Space Station SSTV Jan 27-29 145.8 MHz

2010-01-26 Thread Trevor .
It looks like the Space Station Amateur Radio Slow Scan TV system on 145.800 
MHz may be activated this Wednesday-Friday.

ISS SSTV experiment 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2010/iss_sstv.htm 

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[digitalradio] HO-68 AX.25 Transponder

2010-01-01 Thread Trevor .
A new video about the new Amateur Satellite HO-68 (XW-1) contains a short clip 
of the AX.25 system in operation, see 

http://www.southgatearc.org/news/december2009/ho68_modes.htm 

HO-68 Real Time Tracking (tick draw footprint): 
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=36122

A beginners guide to getting started on Amateur Radio Satellites is at 
http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/408/168/ 

A Happy New Year to you all. 
 
Trevor M5AKA
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[digitalradio] WINMOR in January Ham-Mag

2009-12-30 Thread Trevor .
The January issue of the free Amateur Radio magazine - Ham Mag - published 
today, has an article on WINMOR by Leon Singh 9Z4BM. 

You need to subscribe via http://www.Ham-Mag.com/ or join the Yahoo Group at 
http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/ham-mag_en/ A copy of the mag is in the Yahoo 
Files folder.  

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[digitalradio] AFSK packet on the XW-1 Amateur Satellite

2009-12-16 Thread Trevor .
On the AMSAT Bulletin Board Mineo Wakita JE9PEL reports that the AX.25 Packet 
BBS on XW-1 has been active, he writes: 

"AFSK packets were active yesterday over Japan, 12:55 UTC, 15 Dec 2009
Received by JA0CAW, 435.675MHz AFSK 1200bps"

The 2m to 70cm FM transponder was also tested yesterday, see 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/december2009/xw1_beacon_reports.htm 

No reports as yet on the SSB/CW linear transponder being tested. 

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Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-16 Thread Trevor .
Good point Cortland. 

Cognitive radio offers national regulators the opportunity to adopt a much 
lighter touch to regulation. They could do away with rigid frequency 
allocations - the users radio will just look for an "unused" frequency and use 
it. 

As you say the problem lies in what is considered an occupied frequency. We may 
well find that a signal 10 db above the prevailing noise floor would be 
considered noise and thus available for use. 

On 2.4 GHz technologies such as Bluetooth and Wifi adapt to interference. 

I'm sure as cogitive techniques develop we'll see large chunks of the spectrum 
operated in a similar manner to 2.4 GHz, eg license exempt with the Equipment 
(users won't necessarily realize it's a radio) choosing the lowest interference 
frequencies to carry out the required task. 

European Union RSPG report on Cognitive Technologies 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/november2009/rspg_report_on_cognitive_technologies.htm
 

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Wed, 16/12/09, Cortland Richmond  wrote:
> I do hope cognitive radio designs
> will be done responsibly for the spectrum
> they occupy, and I cite RMS Express as an example of a
> responsible approach
> to mitigating interference. And (military) ALE as I've
> experienced it as
> the opposite.
> 
> However, I fear device manufacturers wanting to use
> spectrum everywhere
> will not produce radios able to detect weak emissions when
> their receiver
> bandwidth is so wide as not to see it above the
> noise.  Among the BPL
> comments and replies is one manufacturer's assertion that
> there were no
> signals to be interfered with -- when his spectrum analyzer
> noise floor was
> higher than the level those signals would normally
> reach.   By using only
> measurement technology to required for Part 15
> certification, that
> manufacturer was able to ignore signals I believe he "knew
> or should have
> known" (as the lawyers say) were or could be present.
> 
> We must listen first. So should any responsible user of
> shared spectrum. He
> must be able to hear *any users authorized* in the spectrum
> shared, at
> levels and in bandwidths they are authorized to use. 
> This is not so easy,
> considering that we often carry on Olivia or Contestia QSOs
> below the
> background noise level.   It could be made
> easier by restricting automatic
> (cognitive) radio to spectrum where weak signal modes will
> not be
> encountered.
> 
> Cortland
> KA5S
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Bob McGwier 
> > To: 
> > Date: 12/16/2009 12:54:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?
> >
> > Cortland Richmond wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > One problem with "cognitive radio" is that it
> seems it will be designed 
> > > to detect only emissions similar to those it is
> meant to receive. 
> > > Therefore, it is best used in spectrum
> particularly allotted to 
> > > just those kinds of
> emissions.   This rather defeats the purpose
> of 
> > > "white space."
> > >  
> > > RMS Express by way of contrast has a busy
> detector that will prevent 
> > > transmitting over many kinds of modulation
> different than it uses.  
> > > Compare this with (say) ALE, whose polling
> (encountered on MARS 
> > > frequencies) takes no account of voice or even
> Olivia on channels it 
> > > happens to select.  
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Cortland
> > > KA5S
> > >  
> > >  
> >
> > This is not correct in my experience. In all serious
> systems under 
> > development, the CR is looking to characterize all
> energy to some degree 
> > or another, irrespective of whether it is a "matched
> filter" to a 
> > particular waveform.
> >
> > The purpose is to find a channel that works. 
> Energy on the channel is 
> > an indicator it would not as the source would be
> cochannel interference 
> > and with some high degree of probability,  the
> interference would be
> mutual.
> >
> > Dislike for any particular system which automates
> channel usage but does 
> > not behave responsibly is not to be used to condemn
> responsible digital 
> > system developers.  The enforcement of this
> responsibility is done by 
> > pressure (peer) and performance (being interfered with
> by those not 
> > detected).
> >
> > Bob
> > N4HY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental
> digital modes =
> 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on
> waterfall.
> 
> Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked
> Pages at
> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>     digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
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[digitalradio] XW-1 Launched

2009-12-15 Thread Trevor .
The Amateur Radio satellite XW-1 was launched this morning. As well as 
transponders for SSB/CW and FM working it also has an AX.25 packet BBS: 

PacSat BBS 
Uplink: 145.825 MHz AFSK 1200 BPS
Downlink: 435.675 MHz AFSK 1200 BPS 

Currently only the telemetry beacon on 435.790 MHz CW has been activated.

Further details at 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/december2009/xw_1_launched.htm 

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[digitalradio] Digital Amateur Radio Satellites Launched

2009-09-24 Thread Trevor .
Four Amateur Radio Satellites were launched on Wednesday September 23. 

Three of them feature AX.25 Packet telemetry beacons, for details see 

http://www.southgatearc.org/news/september2009/successful_launch_of_amateur_radio_cubesats.htm
 

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[digitalradio] Electronics Weekly - Bringing FUN back to the classroom

2009-08-11 Thread Trevor .
AMSAT-UK's FUNcube satellite project features on the front cover of
the August 12-18 edition of Electronics Weekly magazine

The printed edition of the magazine will be dropping through
letterboxes during Wednesday morning. You can read the digital
version of Electronics Weekly magazine online or download the pages in
PDF format at

http://cde.cerosmedia.com/1D4a803d8814a11352.cde 

The full FUNcube article titled 'Bringing FUN back to the classroom'
by Steve Bush is on page 8 and contains an interview with Graham
Shirville G3VZV. 

Electronics Weekly Magazine
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/ 

AMSAT-UK http://www.uk.amsat.org/ publish a colour A4 newsletter, OSCAR News, 
full of satellite information.
You can join online at https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subs_form/ 

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[digitalradio] AMSAT-UK Space Colloquium Videos

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor .
The videos of the presentations at this years successful AMSAT-UK
International Space Colloquium in Guildford are now available to watch
on the British Amateur Television Club (BATC) website

Among the fascinating video presentations are:

- Software Defined Radio (SDR) By Drew Glasbrenner KO4MA
- FUNcube, the new AMSAT-UK linear transponder satellite project By
Graham Shirville G3VZV
- AMSAT-NA Update By Drew Glasbrenner KO4MA
- AMSAT-DL Update By Peter Guelzow DB2OS
- Electronics and Teddy Bears: A Near-Space Adventure" By Ed Moore
M0TEK and Fergus Noble M0NBL, Cambridge University Spaceflight
- Engineers Wanted! Tempting Teenagers to Explore Technology By Garry
Bulmer, Software Architect

All 18 videos can be seen at http://www.batc.tv/
Click on the "Film Archive" icon on the left to see all the videos
available then select the video you wish to see (they start with 2009
AMSAT)
To see the video full screen click on the icon at the bottom of the
video player.

PDFs of the slides from the presentations can be found on the AMSAT-UK
website at
http://www.uk.amsat.org/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,278/ 

Thanks to the BATC for recording and editing the videos (a time consuming job) 
as well providing this invaluable video service at batc.tv for the Amateur 
Satellite community. 

AMSAT-UK publish a colour A4 newsletter, OSCAR News, full of satellite
information. You can join online at the new URL of 
https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subs_form/ 

AMSAT-UK http://www.uk.amsat.org/ 

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[digitalradio] AMSAT-UK Presentations Available

2009-07-31 Thread Trevor .

PDF's of the presentations given at this years successful AMSAT-UK 
International Space Colloquium in Guildford are now available 

Among the weekend of fascinating presentations were 

Software Defined Radio reception of Satellite Signals by Drew Glasbrenner 

European Astronaut Selection and the Mars Pathfinder by ESA Astronaut Dr 
Andreas Mogense 

FUNcube, the new AMSAT-UK linear transponder satellite project by Graham 
Shirville 

Electronics and Teddy Bears: A Near-Space Adventure" by Ed Moore and Fergus 
Noble, Cambridge University Spaceflight 

Engineers Wanted! Tempting Teenagers to Explore Technology by Garry Bulmer, 
Software Architect 

The 18 presentations can be found on the AMSAT-UK website at 
http://www.uk.amsat.org/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,278/ 

AMSAT-UK publish a colour A4 newsletter, OSCAR News, full of satellite 
information.

Join AMSAT-UK online at https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subscription/ 

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[digitalradio] New FX.25 Protocol - Amateur Radio Satellite Experiment

2009-07-29 Thread Trevor .

ANDE due for deployment from the Space Shuttle tomorrow will experiment with 
the FX.25 protocol. 

Based on the 1980's AX.25 standard the new FX.25 features forward error 
correction. 

ANDE FX.25 Protocol Experiment
https://goby.nrl.navy.mil/ANDE/Amateur_Radio.html 

Four Amateur Radio satellites are to be deployed from the Space Shuttle mission 
STS-127 on Thursday July 30

The satellites are ANDE Castor, ANDE Pollux, BEVO1 and AggieSat2. They will be 
deployed from the space shuttle Endeavour  (STS-127) at 7:27 am CDT via the 
Space Shuttle Picosatellite Launcher (SSPL).

You can follow AggieSat2 on Twitter at http://twitter.com/aggiesat2 

ANDE Castor - 145.825 MHz FM transmits telemetry every 30 seconds
https://goby.nrl.navy.mil/ANDE/Castor.html

ANDE Pollux - 145.825 MHz FM transmits telemetry every 33 seconds
https://goby.nrl.navy.mil/ANDE/Pollux.html

BEVO1 (DragonSat 1) - 437.325 MHz FM, Morse Code at about 20 WPM
http://www.utexas.edu/news/2009/06/09/picosatellite/

AggieSat2 (DragonSat 2) - 436.250 MHz
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:FMerJChhzs4J:aggiesat.org/+aggiesat&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?

2009-07-29 Thread Trevor .

Looks like AX.25 9600 packet by a different anme. 

Anyone know if the G3RUH modem decodes it ? 

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[digitalradio] Live Webcast - AMSAT-UK Colloquium Guildford, England

2009-07-23 Thread Trevor .

The AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium takes place this Saturday and 
Sunday July 25/26 at the Holiday Inn Hotel in Guildford, England. 
The presentations will be webcast live at http://www.batc.tv/ 

The event opens at 1000 BST (0900 GMT) Saturday and some of the presentations 
may be of interest to those involved in digital communications. 

Colloquium Presentations http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/679/266/ 

Booking details http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/25/49/ 

Webcast http://www.batc..tv/ (select Live Events then AMSAT) 
There's also a Chat facility available - /nick “your callsign” - sets your ID, 
further details are at http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/695/68/ 

AMSAT-UK publish a colour A4 newsletter, OSCAR News, join online at
https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subscription/   

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[digitalradio] AO-51 Apollo 11 40th Anniversary Special Event

2009-07-20 Thread Trevor .

From: 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/july2009/amsat_apollo11_event.htm 

AMSAT-NA will mark the 40th anniversary of the first manned lunar landing with 
a special event on AO-51. AO-51 will transmit a special message commemorating 
the event during evening passes on Monday, July 20 and into early July 21 UTC. 
The transmission on the 435.300 MHz FM downlink will include Robot 36 SSTV. 

Find out when AO-51 is in range via the N2YO Real-Time satellite Tracking 
website - http://www.n2yo.com/ 

Frequency ans QSL information at 
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/CTNews.php  

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Re: [digitalradio] New 40m Band Plan

2009-07-19 Thread Trevor .
Hi Andy, 

The IARU Region 2 (Americas) bandplan gives digital as 7035-7043 as against 
the  7040-7050 for 500 Hz BW digimodes and 7050-7060 for 2700 Hz BW digimodes 
used in Region 1. It's unfortunate there is a difference between regions, lets 
hope they can work towards harmonisation.

IARU Region 1 bandplan 
http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=175&Itemid=127

IARU Region 2 bandplan 
http://www.iaru-r2.org/wp-content/uploads/region-2-mf-hf-bandplan-e.pdf 

73 Trevor M5AKA
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--- On Sun, 19/7/09, Andrew O'Brien  wrote:

From: Andrew O'Brien 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] New 40m Band Plan
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 10:02 PM





















I did not know that,  but have noticed less Europeans at 7035,

Andy K3UK


On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Andrew  wrote:













 





  Has anyone noticed that the band plan for 40m has been 
changed.  I for one had not seen it.  It has changed the frequency for digi 
modes from the 7035 area up to 7040 to 7047.



I still hear most stations around 7035



Link is below



Andy

LY/ES2DY





















 




  

[digitalradio] Space Station Pictures

2009-05-30 Thread Trevor .

Some of the pictures of earth transmitted by the Amateur Radio Station onboard 
the International Space Station can be seen at: 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/SSTV/ 

The pictures are sent using Slow Scan television (SSTV) on 145.800 MHz FM.

On that frequency you will may hear either the Astronauts talking to other 
Radio Amateurs on Earth (5 of the 6 Astronouts on ISS have Amateur radio 
licences) or AX.25 Packet, or SSTV pictures. 

Decoding software for SSTV using the a PC sound card is free, see 

Free Slow Scan TV Software MMSSTV
http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/ 

How to receive SSTV from ISS
http://www.marexmg.org/fileshtml/howtouseiss.html 

More radio hams heading for space station
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/may2009/more_hams_for_iss.htm 

Soundcard AX.25 software is also available.

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RE: [digitalradio] Phone/Image Band FCC bandwidth limit on HF Re: USA ham rules

2009-03-25 Thread Trevor
FCC say "a RTTY or data emission using a digital code specified in this
paragraph may use any technique whose technical characteristics have
been documented publicly"

I can't see that you've got any bandwidth restriction on HF subject to each 
individual carrier having a maximum symbol rate of 300 baud. That in itself is 
a pointless restriction but it doesn't stop you having wide B/W data 
transmission using multiple carriers. 

In the UK there are no restrictions on modulation techniques or the bandwidth 
subject to the transmission fitting within an Amateur band. 

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Wed, 25/03/09, Dave AA6YQ  wrote:

From: Dave AA6YQ 
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Phone/Image Band FCC bandwidth limit on HF Re: USA 
ham rules
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Dave Bernstein AA6YQ" 
Date: Wednesday, 25 March, 2009, 2:09 AM












 
The 
table in §97.305 (Authorized emission types) indicates that §97.307(f)(3) 
applies to all use of RTTY or data emission types in the amateur bands below 28 
mhz. 
 
§97.307(f)(3) says "Only a RTTY or data 
emission using a specified digital code listed in §97.309(a) of this Part may 
be 
transmitted. The symbol rate must not exceed 300 bauds, or for frequency-shift 
keying, the frequency shift between mark and space must not exceed 1 
kHz."
 
The table in §97.305 indicates that 
§97.307(f)(4) applies to all use of RTTY or data emission types on the 10 
meter band; it expands the upper limit on symbol rate to 1200 baud, but retains 
the maximum FSK frequency shift of 1 kHz.
 
See
 
<http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html#307>
 
 73,
 
    
Dave, AA6YQ
 
 
-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of 
expeditionradio
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:44 
PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] 
Phone/Image Band FCC bandwidth limit on HF Re: USA ham 
rules



> Frank k2ncc wrote:
> I think the confusion I have with "quality 
phone 
> transmission" comment is the part that says 
> "...of the 
same modulation type." 

Hi Frank,

The FCC rule about HF signal 
bandwidth limit 
related to a "phone emission of the same 
modulation 
type", applies mainly to Image signals 
within the HF "Phone/Image 
sub-bands". 

That limit DOES NOT APPLY to Data/RTTY signals 
in the 
Data/RTTY sub-bands. 

Beware, there are a few narrow-minded hams 

continuing to spread disinformation about digital 
bandwidth limits. What 
motivates them to do so? 
Are they trying to scare us into self-inhibiting 

our freedoms? Or a desire to retard the advancement 
of radio technology? 
Whatever their reason is for 
using the "Big Lie" technique, it won't work in 

this case, because it is too easy now for USA hams 
to go to the source 
of true facts about bandwidth 
limits. That source is: the FCC rules on the 
web.

The best way to understand the FCC rules about 
ham radio is to 
read the FCC rules, footnotes, 
tables, orders, definitions, specifications, 
and 
FCC opinions. I acknowledge that not everyone is 
quite as 
enthusiastic about reading this exciting 
material as I am. So, perhaps it 
will help to 
point out the parts of the tome that are pertinent 
to this 
discussion. Turn your hymnals to Part 97 :) 

- The FCC rules contain a 
table of frequency bands 
in paragraph (c) of "§97.305 Authorized emission 
types." 

- In that §97.305 table, one can see "Standards" that 
apply 
to each sub-band or segment of a ham band. 
These little details are the key 
to understanding. 
Some Notes apply to certain sub-bands but not 
others.

Here are the important things to look for: 

- Observe that 
"Footnote (2)" can be found in 
the "Phone/Image sub-bands" but Footnote(2) 

cannot be found in the "Data/RTTY sub-bands"! 

- The text of this 
important Standard (2) is 
found in:
"§97.307 Emission standards" 
paragraph (f) .

Here is the full text of §97.307 (f) (2) -
" No 
non-phone emission shall exceed the 
bandwidth of a communications quality 
phone 
emission of the same modulation type. The 
total bandwidth of an 
independent sideband 
emission (having B as the first symbol), or 
a 
multiplexed image and phone emission, shall 
not exceed that of a 
communications quality 
A3E emission."

The main types of "non-phone 
emissions" this 
bandwidth limit applies to, only in the 
"phone/image 
subbands are: 
1. Image content (such as video or photo)
2. FAX image 
(such as drawings or documents)

The FCC rules define what a "Phone" 
signal is. 
It includes speech and some other things, such 
as selective 
calling and controlling tones.

The FCC definition of the word "Phone" can 
be 
found in §97.3(c)(5) Definitions of terms that 
are used in Par

[digitalradio] ETSI Standards - 6.25 kHz spacing Digital Voice and narrowband data

2009-02-19 Thread Trevor
The ETSI website contains a number of Digital Radio related publications 
available for free download such as 

ETSI TS 102 658 V1.1.1 (2008-12) Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio 
spectrum Matters (ERM); Digital Private Mobile Radio (dPMR) using FDMA with a 
channel spacing of 6.25 kHz

EN 301 166 V1.1.1 (1999-02) Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum 
Matters (ERM); Land mobile service; Technical characteristics and test 
conditions for radio equipment for analogue and/or digital communication 
(speech and/or data) and operating on narrowband
channels and having an antenna connector

ETSI TR 102 616 V1.1.1 (2008-03) PowerLine Telecommunications (PLT) [BPL];
Report from Plugtests™ 2007 on coexistence between PLT and
short wave radio broadcast; Test cases and results 

Details of how to download these publications can be found at 
ETSI Standards available as free downloads 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/february2009/etsi_standards.htm 

73 Trevor M5AKA

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