Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
Yes, there had been a considerable jump in activity on the less traveled digital modes. I get the same responses as you do about RSID and it just works. philw de ka1gmn On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 16:37 -0400, Tony wrote: All, I've noticed a BIG jump in 'exotic mode contacts since RSID became available in HRD / DM780. I've made more Contestia / DominoEx / Thor QSOs in one week than I usually see in months! The usual response is I've never worked this mode before or didn't recognize the mode, but the RSID picked you up. The RSID has greater sensitivity than the majority of digital modes and signals are often decoded by the ID without actually hearing or seeing the digital mode itself. This has helped in a situation where the antenna was pointed in the wrong direction and has allowed me to zero-in on a station that would have otherwise gone unnoticed. Patrick's PROP-RSID (Multipsk) sends call sign, locator, power and even the antenna gain and beam heading. The information pops-up in the waterfall. So has anyone else seen an increase in mode activity with RSID? Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
I have a question for the users of DM780. Is option to enable FEC for DominoEX? If this option is available, has anyone had any success in the mode being detected via RSID? 73 phiw de ka1gmn
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
The DM780 DominoEX is the same as FLDIGI as the code was 'borrowed' from the fldigi sources. Off the top of my head I can't remember about FEC. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - Subject: Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE! I have a question for the users of DM780. Is option to enable FEC for DominoEX? If this option is available, has anyone had any success in the mode being detected via RSID?
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
Phil, Yes, there had been a considerable jump in activity on the less traveled digital modes. I get the same responses as you do about RSID and it just works. philw de ka1gmn Glad to hear that -- thanks for the response.. Tony -K2MO On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 16:37 -0400, Tony wrote: All, I've noticed a BIG jump in 'exotic mode contacts since RSID became available in HRD / DM780. I've made more Contestia / DominoEx / Thor QSOs in one week than I usually see in months! The usual response is I've never worked this mode before or didn't recognize the mode, but the RSID picked you up. The RSID has greater sensitivity than the majority of digital modes and signals are often decoded by the ID without actually hearing or seeing the digital mode itself. This has helped in a situation where the antenna was pointed in the wrong direction and has allowed me to zero-in on a station that would have otherwise gone unnoticed. Patrick's PROP-RSID (Multipsk) sends call sign, locator, power and even the antenna gain and beam heading. The information pops-up in the waterfall. So has anyone else seen an increase in mode activity with RSID? Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
I hate to sound stupid, but here goes: What is all this RSID stuff? I've never heard of it until all these e-mails have been going back and forth.. Thanks for any help --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: From: Tony d...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE! To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 1:30 PM Phil, Yes, there had been a considerable jump in activity on the less traveled digital modes. I get the same responses as you do about RSID and it just works. philw de ka1gmn Glad to hear that -- thanks for the response.. Tony -K2MO On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 16:37 -0400, Tony wrote: All, I've noticed a BIG jump in 'exotic mode contacts since RSID became available in HRD / DM780. I've made more Contestia / DominoEx / Thor QSOs in one week than I usually see in months! The usual response is I've never worked this mode before or didn't recognize the mode, but the RSID picked you up. The RSID has greater sensitivity than the majority of digital modes and signals are often decoded by the ID without actually hearing or seeing the digital mode itself. This has helped in a situation where the antenna was pointed in the wrong direction and has allowed me to zero-in on a station that would have otherwise gone unnoticed. Patrick's PROP-RSID (Multipsk) sends call sign, locator, power and even the antenna gain and beam heading. The information pops-up in the waterfall.. So has anyone else seen an increase in mode activity with RSID? Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
This idea was originally developed by Patrick Lindecker, F6CTE. The Reed-Solomon ID (RSID) is a short 16-tone MFSK transmission which identifies the mode in use. The RSID transmission is about 180Hz wide and lasts for just less than two seconds. You should enable RSID when using an 'exotic' mode such as Olivia so that users of programs with RSID support know what mode you are using. It's supported in fldigi, MultiPSK and the DM780 v5.0 betas, as time goes on it will become much more common. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Dan Hensley kc9...@arrl.net What is all this RSID stuff? I've never heard of it until all these e-mails have been going back and forth..
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
Dan, The RSID (developed by Patrick Lindecker) is a short MFSK identifier that tells others which mode is being sent. All it takes is a simple mouse click; RSID is transmitted / received automatically. It's available in HRD / DM780 (version 5) Fldigl and Multipsk. Let me know what software you're running and we'll help you get started. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Dan Hensley kc9...@arrl.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE! I hate to sound stupid, but here goes: What is all this RSID stuff? I've never heard of it until all these e-mails have been going back and forth.. Thanks for any help --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: From: Tony d...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE! To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 1:30 PM Phil, Yes, there had been a considerable jump in activity on the less traveled digital modes. I get the same responses as you do about RSID and it just works. philw de ka1gmn Glad to hear that -- thanks for the response.. Tony -K2MO On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 16:37 -0400, Tony wrote: All, I've noticed a BIG jump in 'exotic mode contacts since RSID became available in HRD / DM780. I've made more Contestia / DominoEx / Thor QSOs in one week than I usually see in months! The usual response is I've never worked this mode before or didn't recognize the mode, but the RSID picked you up. The RSID has greater sensitivity than the majority of digital modes and signals are often decoded by the ID without actually hearing or seeing the digital mode itself. This has helped in a situation where the antenna was pointed in the wrong direction and has allowed me to zero-in on a station that would have otherwise gone unnoticed. Patrick's PROP-RSID (Multipsk) sends call sign, locator, power and even the antenna gain and beam heading. The information pops-up in the waterfall.. So has anyone else seen an increase in mode activity with RSID? Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
Link http://f6cte.free.fr/PAPERS.ZIP This link will point to F6CTE's (MultiPSK) web site. The ZIP file a document titled, RS_ID-_English.DOC, that explains in detail what Reed Solomon Identifier(RSID) feature is. In a nutshell, it is protocol used to identify what digital mode a particular station will be transmitting. This feature takes the guesswork out of determining either by sight or sound what digital a station will be using. A receiving station configured to act upon the RSID protocol, will automatically switch mode the mode that will be used by the transmitting station. 73 philw de ka1gmn On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 13:50 -0700, Dan Hensley wrote: I hate to sound stupid, but here goes: What is all this RSID stuff? I've never heard of it until all these e-mails have been going back and forth.. Thanks for any help --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: From: Tony d...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE! To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 1:30 PM Phil, Yes, there had been a considerable jump in activity on the less traveled digital modes. I get the same responses as you do about RSID and it just works. philw de ka1gmn Glad to hear that -- thanks for the response.. Tony -K2MO On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 16:37 -0400, Tony wrote: All, I've noticed a BIG jump in 'exotic mode contacts since RSID became available in HRD / DM780. I've made more Contestia / DominoEx / Thor QSOs in one week than I usually see in months! The usual response is I've never worked this mode before or didn't recognize the mode, but the RSID picked you up. The RSID has greater sensitivity than the majority of digital modes and signals are often decoded by the ID without actually hearing or seeing the digital mode itself. This has helped in a situation where the antenna was pointed in the wrong direction and has allowed me to zero-in on a station that would have otherwise gone unnoticed. Patrick's PROP-RSID (Multipsk) sends call sign, locator, power and even the antenna gain and beam heading. The information pops-up in the waterfall.. So has anyone else seen an increase in mode activity with RSID? Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!/ Revised Suggested Calling QRGs?
I have noticed the same increase Tony, nice to see. I wonder if we should redefine suggested calling frequencies for the non-PSK31/RTTY CQ and keep people away from JT65A frequencies and ALE frequencies . Seems to me that the complicated suggestions for Olivia QSOs are no longer needed. ? How about dial frequencies of 14073, 21073, 28123, 3583, 7038, 10143 all USB ? Vary the center frequency according to the mode selected , qsy if frequency is busy. I am sure someone will point out the potential conflicts. I am deliberately suggesting frequencies CLOSE to the PSK31 areas so that those using PSK31 might hear the signals within their passband, and also so those using the frequencies to call CQ in more exotic modes can also monitor PSK31 (I often have two applications open when monitoring active digital mode portions of a band.) Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
Tony others, YES! I also have seen a huge increase in the exotic modes. I had the voice announce turned on and it scared the crap outta me the first time because I had forgotten about it, hi. RSID makes recognizing and tuning in other modes so easy!I think this will overcome any hesitation of those who were reluctant to use those modes; now the pain of deciding what the modes are and tuning them is removed. 73 Buddy WB4M - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE! All, I've noticed a BIG jump in 'exotic mode contacts since RSID became available in HRD / DM780. I've made more Contestia / DominoEx / Thor QSOs in one week than I usually see in months! The usual response is I've never worked this mode before or didn't recognize the mode, but the RSID picked you up. The RSID has greater sensitivity than the majority of digital modes and signals are often decoded by the ID without actually hearing or seeing the digital mode itself. This has helped in a situation where the antenna was pointed in the wrong direction and has allowed me to zero-in on a station that would have otherwise gone unnoticed. Patrick's PROP-RSID (Multipsk) sends call sign, locator, power and even the antenna gain and beam heading. The information pops-up in the waterfall. So has anyone else seen an increase in mode activity with RSID? Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!/ Revised Suggested Calling QRGs?
How about dial frequencies of 14073, 21073, 28123, 3583, 7038, 10143 all USB Don't see a problem with that Andy. I've noticed QRM on JT65 / PSK31 calling frequencies, but not often. It's hard to miss the cluster of PSK31 signals on 070, but I can see how someone might wonder into the weaker JT65 sigs. I am deliberately suggesting frequencies CLOSE to the PSK31 areas so that those using PSK31 might hear the signals within their passband I've used that trick often Andy ; ) Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!/ Revised Suggested Calling QRGs? I have noticed the same increase Tony, nice to see. I wonder if we should redefine suggested calling frequencies for the non-PSK31/RTTY CQ and keep people away from JT65A frequencies and ALE frequencies . Seems to me that the complicated suggestions for Olivia QSOs are no longer needed. ? How about dial frequencies of 14073, 21073, 28123, 3583, 7038, 10143 all USB ? Vary the center frequency according to the mode selected , qsy if frequency is busy. I am sure someone will point out the potential conflicts. I am deliberately suggesting frequencies CLOSE to the PSK31 areas so that those using PSK31 might hear the signals within their passband, and also so those using the frequencies to call CQ in more exotic modes can also monitor PSK31 (I often have two applications open when monitoring active digital mode portions of a band.) Andy K3UK
