[board-discuss] TDF Budget as of 2013-02-19
Hello, for tomorrow's BoD call, one action item is to approve the first iteration of our 2013 budget. First iteration means that this will be the budget we will work with for the next few months. Of course we can adjust later on, but we should stick to the parameters. Sadly, our credit card provider's interface is offline at the moment, so I cannot extract the pending payments (which, from a gut feeling, must be somewhere between 1.000 and 3.000 €). Anyways, here is the up-to-date budget, including all requests: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Tdfbudget2013.pdf Please file your wishes and requests no later than 24 hours from now on, writing to board-discuss@documentfoundation.org, so it can be considered for tomorrow's board call, taking place at 1600 UTC. Of course, you are all welcome to join the call, since this is a public one. All details are available at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Meetings As to the budget itself, I am thinking of enhancing the reserve to 20.000 €. We are doing more, which raises the risk, so some safety reserve can't harm. However, I'm undecided on that yet. For the infra side, I will recalculate the request, just to be sure, and will also proof-read other items. If you spot any mistake in the budget, or have any concrete request, please, again, file your wishes and requests no later than 24 hours from now on, writing to board-discuss@documentfoundation.org, so it can be considered for tomorrow's board call. Thanks, Florian
[board-discuss] Re: [tdf-members] TDF Budget as of 2013-02-19
Hi Florian, *, Am 19.02.2013 15:07, schrieb Florian Effenberger: If you spot any mistake in the budget, or have any concrete request, please, again, file your wishes and requests no later than 24 hours from now on, writing to board-discuss@documentfoundation.org, so it can be considered for tomorrow's board call. I know you have talked about the budget for a long time, but ... What about budget for travel costs, fairs etc., what about budget for the next conference or so? Or is this with the marketing request? -- Grüße k-j
[board-discuss] LibreOffice presence for DFD 2013
Please consider using some funds to accentuate the overall positioning of LibreOffice taking advantage from this year's DFD. A TV spot maybe. best regards.-
[tdf-discuss] TDF Budget as of 2013-02-19
Hello, for tomorrow's BoD call, one action item is to approve the first iteration of our 2013 budget. First iteration means that this will be the budget we will work with for the next few months. Of course we can adjust later on, but we should stick to the parameters. Sadly, our credit card provider's interface is offline at the moment, so I cannot extract the pending payments (which, from a gut feeling, must be somewhere between 1.000 and 3.000 €). Anyways, here is the up-to-date budget, including all requests: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Tdfbudget2013.pdf Please file your wishes and requests no later than 24 hours from now on, writing to board-disc...@documentfoundation.org, so it can be considered for tomorrow's board call, taking place at 1600 UTC. Of course, you are all welcome to join the call, since this is a public one. All details are available at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Meetings As to the budget itself, I am thinking of enhancing the reserve to 20.000 €. We are doing more, which raises the risk, so some safety reserve can't harm. However, I'm undecided on that yet. For the infra side, I will recalculate the request, just to be sure, and will also proof-read other items. If you spot any mistake in the budget, or have any concrete request, please, again, file your wishes and requests no later than 24 hours from now on, writing to board-disc...@documentfoundation.org, so it can be considered for tomorrow's board call. Thanks, Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
On 02/18/2013 08:09 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2013-02-18 18:51, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : On 02/18/2013 04:08 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-18 2:00 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I just found out that LibreOffice does not use the font color that the FF Persona designs call for. So if the menu color is white in Firefox, LO will still use the black menu color. That really messes up people who want a dark color background that works well with FF. So you reported the bug? Bug#? ;) No I have not. I am still dealing with a few things on my end that is more time-sensitive than trying to figure out what is neededfor a bug report. If you want to know briefly. . . Persona/Theme designs include font color specifications where the designer selects the right menu font color for the background. ALSO, it appears that some of the toobars have icons that have transparencyissues, where the icon does not show properly if the background is not WHITE. So that is another issue. Then there is the fact the the persona/theme includes a footer image, but it appears that LO either does not use thatfooter or does not do it properly. There may be more there as well, but I just installed LO 4.0 onthe desktop I do the design work at and just got some various persona/themes submitted/approved that have different background colors and text colors. Try this theme design. . . http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/494461 It works well if you have the white menu text that will show up in Firefox. But the text is black with Ubuntu's 64-bit or Win7 64-bit versions of LO4.0.0.3. So I am still finding things that could be bugs or something. Maybe the developers had not even thought about changing the menu text color. Then there is the in-ability for testing the theme in LO like FF allows you to do. That is either a good idea or bad one. You can choose either way and be right. Would you like me to submit some bugs for these? There are quite a few and the devs are interested in making this work as it get a lot a attention. So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? * ability of designer to select the menu font colour * transparency issues where the cison does not show properly if the background is NOT white * does not show footer images Are there anymore? Marc Please do. The font color is the biggest issue. There are too many persona/themes that need to use a light font color. The next issue it the icons using transparent backgrounds instead of white. Anything else is a plus. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
On 02/19/2013 02:43 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Marc, Tim, all, Am 19.02.2013 02:09, schrieb Marc Paré: So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? That is easily to do: - create a folder in libo/program called edition - put in a jpg called header.jpg - switch on the option Pre-Installed Persona (if available) in the option Personalization That's it. Where is the documentation for that? Does it work for Windows, Linux, and Mac? Where is the libo/program folder on Ubuntu and Win7? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice presence for DFD 2013
On 2/19/13 3:32 PM, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: Please consider using some funds to accentuate the overall positioning of LibreOffice taking advantage from this year's DFD. A TV spot maybe. A TV spot is way beyond any available budget. We are planning an announcement for the DFD, but is still to be confirmed. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Hi Tim, Am 19.02.2013 15:43, schrieb webmaster-Kracked_P_P: On 02/19/2013 02:43 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Marc, Tim, all, Am 19.02.2013 02:09, schrieb Marc Paré: So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? That is easily to do: - create a folder in libo/program called edition - put in a jpg called header.jpg - switch on the option Pre-Installed Persona (if available) in the option Personalization That's it. Where is the documentation for that? I don't know. I asked Jan (the developer) and he showed me this way. And so I tested it in Win8 and XP. Does it work for Windows, Linux, and Mac? I don't know. I have neither Linux nor Mac. But I think so, especially for Linux. Where is the libo/program folder on Ubuntu and Win7? The path where you installed LibO 4. Win8: Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4.0\program\edition -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Re: TDF Budget as of 2013-02-19
Hello, a quick update: I managed to extract numbers from ConCardis, it's 3.809,38 € currently. As this doesn't change the budget heavily, I'll not send out a new PDF, the rough numbers stay the same anyways. Florian
Re: [board-discuss] Re: [tdf-members] TDF Budget as of 2013-02-19
Hello, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2013-02-19 15:27: I know you have talked about the budget for a long time, but ... What about budget for travel costs, fairs etc., what about budget for the next conference or so? Or is this with the marketing request? for travel refunds, we mostly ask SPI to step in. They collect money for the LibreOffice project, like many other associations do, and offer to fund travel for many events. It's at their sole discretion, since it's their money, but it works very well. They have collected roughly between 25.000 and 30.000 USD for the LibreOffice project at the moment, so foreseeing a travel refund item at TDF is no real necessity. Florian
[tdf-discuss] CMIS and SWORD implementation
As I was looking more into the CMIS protocol and different solutions for data repository, I realized that the SWORD protocol is also in large use in academia. I was wondering if there had been talk of also making LibreOffice compatible with the SWORD protocol? You can find a good short discussion of the different more popular protocols on this short blog article.[1] Cheers, Marc [1] http://oapeon.blogspot.ca/2011/01/cmis-vs-google-documents-api-vs-sword.html -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
It was suggested that someone create a wiki page that shows the step by step creation and use of a persona/theme for the LO users. I might even take a shot at it. Since the libo/program/edition/header.jpg info is not part of the current documentation, maybe someone could write up the text on how to use that option. I know that you cannot create a new folder in the /program/ folder, since it is locked and needs a root password to create it. So you cannot do this with you file manager in Linux. I know it might be easier with a Windows users. Still there is not documentation, anywhere, about the pre-installed Persona that is the default after you install LO 4.0.x. So, the only info is using the ones on the Firefox gallery of themes and personas [personae]. That is what I am doing. I create these designs using the FF process and submit it to their gallery system. There seems to be a bug that does not pick up the specified font color [not just a header image] for the background image, there have been some users that are using darker backgrounds that use light text for Firefox and Thunderbird, but does not show up using those designs with LO 4.0.0.3. So there may be some need to do more than just place a header image in a undocumented folder, to get everything working. I just think that someone just forgot about the menu color issues that may come up with some backgrounds. Also, some of the toolbar icons have their backgrounds set as transparent, instead of white, so they have a hard time being seem on any non-white background color. Well, that can be fixed by just making sure these icons are saved without a transparency or replace the transparent background with white. That is a hassle, but it can be done simply, as long as you have access to all of the icon files. Of course some extension add icons to your toolbar menu[s], so their authors will need to make their icons with non-transparent backgrounds. But, hey, this is a new design element and it will take a few versions to get it all worked out and bug free. On 02/19/2013 10:33 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Tim, Am 19.02.2013 15:43, schrieb webmaster-Kracked_P_P: On 02/19/2013 02:43 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Marc, Tim, all, Am 19.02.2013 02:09, schrieb Marc Paré: So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? That is easily to do: - create a folder in libo/program called edition - put in a jpg called header.jpg - switch on the option Pre-Installed Persona (if available) in the option Personalization That's it. Where is the documentation for that? I don't know. I asked Jan (the developer) and he showed me this way. And so I tested it in Win8 and XP. Does it work for Windows, Linux, and Mac? I don't know. I have neither Linux nor Mac. But I think so, especially for Linux. Where is the libo/program folder on Ubuntu and Win7? The path where you installed LibO 4. Win8: Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4.0\program\edition -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?
How did AOO figure out how much their version of OOo was worth per day to users? I cannot figure out any way. Of course it makes great Marketing Copy. We are giving our users some much product value, we must be the better product. FUD or what? --- http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/apache-openoffice-valued-at-21m-per-day The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) announced that Apache OpenOffice has a value of $21 million a day. ASF officials said Apache OpenOffice has averaged 131,455 downloads per day since its 3.4 release last May. That represents an average value to the public of $21 million per day or $7.61 billion per year, ASF said. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?
Hello Tim, I suspect they multiply the standard package price of MS Office and multiply that by their numbers of stated downloads, then divide it by 365. At least that's how I would do it. best, Charles. Le mardi 19 février 2013 à 12:15 -0500, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : How did AOO figure out how much their version of OOo was worth per day to users? I cannot figure out any way. Of course it makes great Marketing Copy. We are giving our users some much product value, we must be the better product. FUD or what? --- http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/apache-openoffice-valued-at-21m-per-day The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) announced that Apache OpenOffice has a value of $21 million a day. ASF officials said Apache OpenOffice has averaged 131,455 downloads per day since its 3.4 release last May. That represents an average value to the public of $21 million per day or $7.61 billion per year, ASF said. -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?
On 2/19/13 6:20 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: I suspect they multiply the standard package price of MS Office and multiply that by their numbers of stated downloads, then divide it by 365. At least that's how I would do it. Average number of downloads per day, multiplied by 150 dollars (which is the inflated average price of MS Office Home, as the price is less than 80 dollars now). By the way, they claim 236 countries and territories while their language versions are around 10% than that. Huge FUD by the master of IBM FUD, Mister Robert Weir. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?
I really think we need to advertise the number of downloads for each of our versions. Actually, if we combined them like AOO did, it would be very misleading. How many download of 3.6.5 and 4.0.0 has there been so far. How many for 3.6.4 vs. 3.6.5? That would be useful. Yes, there are a lot of people who get their version form the Linux repositories or some other downloadable site. On 02/19/2013 12:20 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello Tim, I suspect they multiply the standard package price of MS Office and multiply that by their numbers of stated downloads, then divide it by 365. At least that's how I would do it. best, Charles. Le mardi 19 février 2013 à 12:15 -0500, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : How did AOO figure out how much their version of OOo was worth per day to users? I cannot figure out any way. Of course it makes great Marketing Copy. We are giving our users some much product value, we must be the better product. FUD or what? --- http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/apache-openoffice-valued-at-21m-per-day The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) announced that Apache OpenOffice has a value of $21 million a day. ASF officials said Apache OpenOffice has averaged 131,455 downloads per day since its 3.4 release last May. That represents an average value to the public of $21 million per day or $7.61 billion per year, ASF said. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Hi Tim Le 2013-02-19 12:06, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : Since the libo/program/edition/header.jpg info is not part of the current documentation, maybe someone could write up the text on how to use that option. I know that you cannot create a new folder in the /program/ folder, since it is locked and needs a root password to create it. So you cannot do this with you file manager in Linux. I know it might be easier with a Windows users. I know you should not do this often, but, if I have to edit anything or move files in/out or create file folders at root level, I do the following: * open console (Konsole) * do the command: su - * type in root password * do the command: dolphin or konqueror * YOU ARE NOW IN ROOT AND DOING DOLPHIN IN ROOT ! * BE AWARE THAT YOU MAY BORK YOUR SETUP IF YOU ARE NOT CAREFUL * create and transfer the files that you wish Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Le 2013-02-19 12:06, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : I just think that someone just forgot about the menu color issues that may come up with some backgrounds. Also, some of the toolbar icons have their backgrounds set as transparent, instead of white, so they have a hard time being seem on any non-white background color. Well, that can be fixed by just making sure these icons are saved without a transparency or replace the transparent background with white. That is a hassle, but it can be done simply, as long as you have access to all of the icon files. Of course some extension add icons to your toolbar menu[s], so their authors will need to make their icons with non-transparent backgrounds. But, hey, this is a new design element and it will take a few versions to get it all worked out and bug free. +1 Nice of you to give us samples to work with and to help with improving it. Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?
SourceForge reports downloads by country. It appears that the number of languages supported does not limit the locations where the downloads happen (although destination country is necessarily an estimate, just as it is on the ClustrMap of visitors to my web sites). I assume that as language versions increase (as just happened in a refresh of AOO 3.4.1), the proportion of downloads will improve for countries where those languages are used/preferred by someone. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Italo Vignoli [mailto:italo.vign...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 09:26 To: charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Cc: webmas...@krackedpress.com; us...@global.libreoffice.org; discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year? On 2/19/13 6:20 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: I suspect they multiply the standard package price of MS Office and multiply that by their numbers of stated downloads, then divide it by 365. At least that's how I would do it. Average number of downloads per day, multiplied by 150 dollars (which is the inflated average price of MS Office Home, as the price is less than 80 dollars now). By the way, they claim 236 countries and territories while their language versions are around 10% than that. Huge FUD by the master of IBM FUD, Mister Robert Weir. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?
I thought the article explained exactly how it was calculated: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/21_million_per_day. There's no need to speculate. There are two base figures: (1) the average number of AOO full-install downloads per day and (2) an estimated average price for a permanent Microsoft Office desktop license. Rob used $150 US which is the price for Office 2013 Home and Student. That includes service packs, etc., but not upgrades to later versions of Microsoft Office. For Office 365/2013 there is a lower price -- the student price for Office 365 rental is a single $79 for a four-year lease, which includes any updates to the desktop products in that time. The $99/year Office 365 Home Premium (one rental good for noncommercial use on up to 5 machines) is another option, including not only the Office 2013 versions of Excel, Word, and PowerPoint, but Outlook, Access, Publisher, and OneNote (and their updates and upgrades for as long as the rental continues). Since it is perhaps personal use that is the most price-sensitive case, assuming that one download avoids a $100-$150 expense is probably not far off for estimation purposes. LibreOffice can use the same logic that Apache OpenOffice did. -Original Message- From: Charles-H. Schulz [mailto:charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 09:21 To: webmaster-Kracked_P_P Cc: LibreO - Users Global; LibreO - Discuss Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year? Hello Tim, I suspect they multiply the standard package price of MS Office and multiply that by their numbers of stated downloads, then divide it by 365. At least that's how I would do it. best, Charles. Le mardi 19 février 2013 à 12:15 -0500, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : How did AOO figure out how much their version of OOo was worth per day to users? I cannot figure out any way. Of course it makes great Marketing Copy. We are giving our users some much product value, we must be the better product. FUD or what? --- http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/apache-openoffice-valued-at-21m-per-day The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) announced that Apache OpenOffice has a value of $21 million a day. ASF officials said Apache OpenOffice has averaged 131,455 downloads per day since its 3.4 release last May. That represents an average value to the public of $21 million per day or $7.61 billion per year, ASF said. -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
On 02/19/2013 01:25 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Tim Le 2013-02-19 12:06, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : Since the libo/program/edition/header.jpg info is not part of the current documentation, maybe someone could write up the text on how to use that option. I know that you cannot create a new folder in the /program/ folder, since it is locked and needs a root password to create it. So you cannot do this with you file manager in Linux. I know it might be easier with a Windows users. I know you should not do this often, but, if I have to edit anything or move files in/out or create file folders at root level, I do the following: * open console (Konsole) * do the command: su - * type in root password * do the command: dolphin or konqueror * YOU ARE NOW IN ROOT AND DOING DOLPHIN IN ROOT ! * BE AWARE THAT YOU MAY BORK YOUR SETUP IF YOU ARE NOT CAREFUL * create and transfer the files that you wish Cheers, Marc Howmany users do you want messing about with the program folders and not just the user profile ones? I does not matter to me who it is, that is not something we should have our users do. It would be better to have the themes and persona files placed inthe user profile folder [ .config/libreOffice/4/ ] instead of the /opt/. . . program folders needing root/admin passwords. So, do the command: dolphin. . ., you can through the terminal make the file manager work as the rootuser? Did not know that. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Persona will no longer use that name, but be part of Themes - according to Firefox
This is known, Kendy is looking into it. Regards, Joel On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Good idea to stop using persona. Also, Mozilla uses persona for their identity system, perhaps why the same term is no longer going to be used for the theme system. - Dennis -Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P [mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 13:13 To: LibreO - Marketing Global; LibreO - Discuss Cc: Jean Hollis Weber Subject: [tdf-discuss] Persona will no longer use that name, but be part of Themes - according to Firefox I got an email from Mozilla about an issues with 2 of my Persona designs looking too similar. When I replied to that email, I got one in return that had some info and a link to the following Blog. http://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2012/03/01/personas-are-joining-the-themes-fa mily/ It looks like Mozilla, as of March 1st, will not longer use the name Persona, as a separate idea over the generic Theme idea of a personalized background for Firefox. So, we might want to look into updating what it is called in the next version of LO 4.0.x. Also it might need to have some editing in the documentation where it talks about the personalization using Firefox Persona. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?
On 2/19/13 7:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: SourceForge reports downloads by country. It appears that the number of languages supported does not limit the locations where the downloads happen (although destination country is necessarily an estimate, just as it is on the ClustrMap of visitors to my web sites). Do you really believe that a Mongolian who was used to use OOo in Mongolian is happy to use AOO in English? This is just an example, but the concept is exactly the same for another 80 languages, which might be minor for someone speaking only English but are not minor for the people speaking that language. The update mechanism suggests the Mongolian to download the new version, but I really wonder that the new version in English will be used at all. Of course, the concept is difficult to explain to someone speaking only English, and willing to spread false information. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
