Re: [IxDA Discuss] Are required field notations really necessary with radio button selections?
Radio buttons (or as they are often called, option buttons) in the early days of GUIs were used to select a choice from a set of items and early style guides noted that one of the radio buttons had to be chosen. The selection wasn't really tacit it was explicit. I noticed in the mid 1990s that there were radio button designs being used in online questionnaires (before surveymonkey and the like) where none of the radio buttons was chosen as early style guides had mandated. I think that I first saw it on a medical application where the physician had to check various items about a patient's health. The underlying metaphor had changed here from the physical radio set in old cars where you always had a station selected (unless your buttons broke) to that of a questionnaire where a person was required to make a choice, but you didn't want to preselect a choice to bias the task. So, if you are following the questionnaire model where you don't prefill a default radio button (to prevent bias), then putting an asterisk beside the field is reasonable. If you have radio buttons where there a default choice is prefilled, then the asterisk does not seem to make sense. Chauncey On Nov 13, 2007 7:30 PM, Stephen Dondershine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does one necessarily need to add an asterisk indicating that a selection is required for a radio button selection form input? It seems to me that one can argue two ways: 1.) The fact that some item in the radio button group will always be selected tacitly implies that the input is required. It is really impossible for the User not to mae a selection, so why bother to indicate that it's a required field? 2.) Nevertheless, the required field asterisk draws the User's attention to the field input itself and the fact that there is potentially a decision to be made. It is therefore worth including. Thoughts? Steve *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] partnerships ( was Re: IxDA's Annual Board Meeting)
Hi Daniel, The question of partnerships is an interesting one. Are you suggesting that IxDA fold into AIGA, or are you suggesting partnerships on specific initiatives? -- dave On Nov 14, 2007 12:50 AM, Daniel Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has the IxDA considered some form of partnership with AIGA? I am member of AIGA and have found they are very receptive to user experience and interaction design. They sponsored publication of Saffer's book, and when i visited the NY hq, Ux/Ix was literally right up there on the wall along with all the other fields of design. I think they've done a pretty good job in the last decade evangelizing design as a whole. Perhaps they could provide some insight on PR efforts. I had also suggested sponsoring research that would be available to all. It would further legitimize the organization and be a resource for designers and the press to draw from. -Dan On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:12 PM, dave malouf wrote: Evangelizing the discipline has always been a core mission of the organization for sure. Petteri, do you have any suggestions on how we can do this? It is a really hard piece to knock out of the park considering some of the more tactical things we are working on. -- David Malouf http://synapticburn.com/ http://ixda.org/ http://motorola.com/ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] what are your fundamental tenets of design?
Not sure these are tenets, but I like Dieter Rams 10 Commandments... Good design is... Innovative Useful Aesthetic Self-explanatory Unobtrusive Honest Durable Thorough Environmentally-friendly As little design as possible http://vitsoe.com/ten_commandments.php *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza Compare Seeqpod
David: I don't think innaccessibility is an issue with these sites. Especially Songza which is meant as a study in Interaction Design. One could argue that sites that focus on audio might be on special interest to the visually impaired. If Songza was an exercise in interface design then I might agree with you. Interaction, no. Anyway, I believe songza has dont a good job with high contrast. Excellent balance of colours with the search results being the only weak point I can see. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://gamma.ixda.org/discuss?post=22558 *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA's Annual Board Meeting
Pauric, You do have a valid point. Google Groups is working great for us here in Boston (note: we're only using it to coordinate events and don't yet have it open to local members, although we certainly could) and I'd be happy to adopt this solution with local leaders if that was what the IxDA Board decided was the right thing to do to get us rolling with tools with little work. It's a workable solution, and I believe that even some of the functionality can be shown directly on the ixda.org site (esp. the calendar). Could be the path of least resistance... Anywho, I believe there are a few ideas out there that they'll take under advisement. =) *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza Compare Seeqpod
We're doing work for a client who offers similar functionality. Our initial research offers two possible critiques for Songza (which I otherwise think is very cool): 1. On the interface side, people think a song will start playing when you click on it. Exposing the navigation over a song is ingenious, but a new paradigm for most people, who got used to double-clicking on a song in iTunes to play it. If you're not used to this approach, you might not even see the navigation. (On the other hand, this kind of interface is playful enough where people might grow used to it, and it is crucial for the song queue feature.) 2. On the functionality side, the model offered isn't why people go to the web. The people we spoke to use the web to discover new music (a la Pandora) not listen to music they already like, which they probably own. Still, it's (a) very simple and clever and (b) not Apple-style, and so very appealing. :-) -- Dan -- | work: eightshapes.com | book: communicatingdesign.com | blog: greenonions.com | talk: +1 (301) 801-4850 *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Diagnosing IX in your operating system
From /.: My three pet gripes about GUI software are 1) focus stealers -- you are typing away in one app and some other app pops up and then you are typing into some other window that has grabbed focus, 2) Files Save that makes you start over from the beginning with each program launch or even each Files Save instead of remembering where you last saved a file, and 3) programs that lock up the GUI at the least provocation (yeah you, Adobe -- I dread Web surfing into PDF files, even from a broadband connection). (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=359507cid=21344881) This guy nailed the big two (number 3 is a code stability issue), but I'd like to add that there are others, on Windows, Macintosh, and various DEs for Linux/BSD. What are your worst peeves, and what's a better way these operating systems could work? http://technical-writing.dionysius.com/ technical writing | consulting | development Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] EVENT REMINDER: NYC IxDA - The 7-Minute IxD Soapbox (a.k.a. Pecha Kucha) - Tue, 11/13
4. It appears to me that pointy shoes, both men women, are really fashionable as according to this event. It seems that a few specific hand gestures are fashionable, as well... reaches out for an invisible ball ;-) How was the event, BTW? Did people enjoy it? I'm especially curious because the Waterloo F2F held a similar event last spring and I suspect we could learn from each other's experience. For instance, we had a few suggestions that 10 minutes would be better, but I'm not sure about that: we chose 7 minutes because it's enough time to cover almost any idea, but crazy-short enough that speakers wouldn't be tempted to cover too much ground. Would love to hear from folks who attended the NYC event. -- Robert Barlow-Busch Director of User Experience Terapath Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Usability for social search
Is anyone working on usability related to enterprise social search? Issues that come to mind are how to display information from both internal and external sources on one screen, where and how to display tags and taggers, whether to offer suggestions on the tagging window, etc? Jean Jean Graef The Montague Institute www.montague.com *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza
e.g. http://www.kayak.com/moby/ (not a lot going on with style, but the interaction thinking is good) I wholeheartedly disagree. You can't do anything with the information once you get it - nothing is clickable. Don't people normally search for flight info so they can buy a plane ticket? What should be the most useful thing about the app is non-existent. -r- *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza
Robert: I wholeheartedly disagree. You can't do anything with the information once you get it - nothing is clickable. Don't people normally search for flight info so they can buy a plane ticket? Context. Why would you click to buy from your phone? You call a number. Understanding the context of the mobile interaction is what I really liked about the kayak moby design. regards - pauric . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://gamma.ixda.org/discuss?post=22547 *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza
Context. Why would you click to buy from your phone? You call a number. Understanding the context of the mobile interaction is what I really liked about the kayak moby design. (I guess we're repeating the conversation we just had offlist. :) Because I own an iPhone and the typing experience is good enough that I don't need to call a number. :) Same would likely be true for Treo and Blackberry owners. I've purchased domains through my iPhone while standing on a street corner. Why not a plane ticket? Even with slow data connections, it's usually faster than navigating a VR system to get a real person on the phone at an airline. -r- *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] partnerships ( was Re: IxDA's Annual Board Meeting)
On another note, what other orgs would people like to see he partner with and how? I've been investing a lot into building our relationship with the industrial design community, b/c I see great synergy under the banner of Product design (which I don't feel from AIGA) and well honestly I'm self motivated. Who do you feel connected to and how can IxDA help to bridge your communities? - dave On Nov 14, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Daniel Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, I am not suggesting folding into AIGA at all. I was thinking more along the lines of co-sponsoring larger events and working on specific initiatives together. I assume since they've been around for so long that they've learned a thing or two. -Dan On Nov 14, 2007, at 4:27 AM, David Malouf wrote: Hi Daniel, The question of partnerships is an interesting one. Are you suggesting that IxDA fold into AIGA, or are you suggesting partnerships on specific initiatives? -- dave On Nov 14, 2007 12:50 AM, Daniel Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has the IxDA considered some form of partnership with AIGA? I am member of AIGA and have found they are very receptive to user experience and interaction design. They sponsored publication of Saffer's book, and when i visited the NY hq, Ux/Ix was literally right up there on the wall along with all the other fields of design. I think they've done a pretty good job in the last decade evangelizing design as a whole. Perhaps they could provide some insight on PR efforts. I had also suggested sponsoring research that would be available to all. It would further legitimize the organization and be a resource for designers and the press to draw from. -Dan On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:12 PM, dave malouf wrote: Evangelizing the discipline has always been a core mission of the organization for sure. Petteri, do you have any suggestions on how we can do this? It is a really hard piece to knock out of the park considering some of the more tactical things we are working on. -- David Malouf http://synapticburn.com/ http://ixda.org/ http://motorola.com/ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] partnerships ( was Re: IxDA's Annual Board Meeting)
Dave, I am not suggesting folding into AIGA at all. I was thinking more along the lines of co-sponsoring larger events and working on specific initiatives together. I assume since they've been around for so long that they've learned a thing or two. -Dan On Nov 14, 2007, at 4:27 AM, David Malouf wrote: Hi Daniel, The question of partnerships is an interesting one. Are you suggesting that IxDA fold into AIGA, or are you suggesting partnerships on specific initiatives? -- dave On Nov 14, 2007 12:50 AM, Daniel Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has the IxDA considered some form of partnership with AIGA? I am member of AIGA and have found they are very receptive to user experience and interaction design. They sponsored publication of Saffer's book, and when i visited the NY hq, Ux/Ix was literally right up there on the wall along with all the other fields of design. I think they've done a pretty good job in the last decade evangelizing design as a whole. Perhaps they could provide some insight on PR efforts. I had also suggested sponsoring research that would be available to all. It would further legitimize the organization and be a resource for designers and the press to draw from. -Dan On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:12 PM, dave malouf wrote: Evangelizing the discipline has always been a core mission of the organization for sure. Petteri, do you have any suggestions on how we can do this? It is a really hard piece to knock out of the park considering some of the more tactical things we are working on. -- David Malouf http://synapticburn.com/ http://ixda.org/ http://motorola.com/ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful
Jason Fried of 37signals wrote this biased but worthwhile critique of personas not too long ago: http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/690-ask-37signals-personas On Nov 13, 2007, at 12:19 PM, oliver green wrote: So, can you give me examples where using personas would not be advisable/helpful? *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful
I'm not sure how informed Jason Fried is of what a persona really is. I can't find a URL, but I swear he said once that he used to use them and eventually turned against them. They're [personas are] artificial, abstract, and fictitious. Which is incorrect. Personas are based on a real person and real data. If they are not, then they are not personas. They're not based on a real person, they're based on real *people*. They're a hybrid, archetypal representation of many people. That, by definition, makes them artificial and fictitious, does it not? More semantic debates, I suppose, but worth pointing out, I think. -r- *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful
Jason touched on that during his opening remarks at sxsw interactive 2006. Which I can't seem to find the podcast for either... He said that instead, they made Basecamp with simple features, then launched and opened the discussion to the community, the same model that Mozilla uses. I enjoy this process more myself, as it seems to invoke interest, personal ownership, and community synergy. Sara Summers visual | interaction design 512-297-1330 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Robert Hoekman, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Celeste 'seele' Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: discuss@lists.interactiondesigners.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful I'm not sure how informed Jason Fried is of what a persona really is. I can't find a URL, but I swear he said once that he used to use them and eventually turned against them. They're [personas are] artificial, abstract, and fictitious. *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful
Jason touched on that during his opening remarks at sxsw interactive 2006. Which I can't seem to find the podcast for either... He said that instead, they made Basecamp with simple features, then launched and opened the discussion to the community, the same model that Mozilla uses. I enjoy this process more myself, as it seems to invoke interest, personal ownership, and community synergy. Sara Summers visual | interaction design 512-297-1330 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Robert Hoekman, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Celeste 'seele' Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: discuss@lists.interactiondesigners.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful I'm not sure how informed Jason Fried is of what a persona really is. I can't find a URL, but I swear he said once that he used to use them and eventually turned against them. They're [personas are] artificial, abstract, and fictitious. *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza
AHA! Fitts' Law at its finest! :-) Great stuff. Definitely one of those things where you go DOH! Of COURSE!. Love that they could pull it off in a web app. So, I typed in Metallica and got a relatively short list of songs (yes, my favorite band of all time). I then noticed the one thing missing from the returned list was the album name. The songs I got back weren't either sorted by album or had the album name in them. Hmmm... so is the song I'm clicking on from the original album or from a remake? Live or studio? ~Lisa *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 13:24:12 Joshua Kaufman wrote: Jason Fried of 37signals wrote this biased but worthwhile critique of personas not too long ago: http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/690-ask-37signals-personas I'm not sure how informed Jason Fried is of what a persona really is. He states: They’re [personas are] artificial, abstract, and fictitious. Which is incorrect. Personas are based on a real person and real data. If they are not, then they are not personas. This seems to be a common misunderstanding when it comes to using and contructing them. Sure, there is a danger in relying in personas too much to understand who you are designing for, but A) that danger exists for any artifact of user research B) theyre better than nothing I think Fried's suggestion of hyper focusing on a single person you know is more dangerous than relying on fuzzy user research. On Nov 13, 2007, at 12:19 PM, oliver green wrote: So, can you give me examples where using personas would not be advisable/helpful? *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Celeste 'seele' Paul www.obso1337.org *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful
OK - this discussion has gotten more than a bit silly. If you are the target group that you are developing for (as in 37signals), of course you do not need personas. You essentially ARE the persona... only better! This should not be taken as advice unless you (the design and development team) are the target audience for the product. Further, personas ARE fictional. But they should be based upon research with real users and then validated. On Wednesday, November 14, 2007, at 01:27PM, Joshua Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Fried of 37signals wrote this biased but worthwhile critique of personas not too long ago: http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/690-ask-37signals-personas *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful
I *could* argue that 37Signals *does* use personas, though it would be a semantic argument. Jason refers to our problems, which suggests to me a summary of a collection of users. He just happens to know all the users who make up that summary representation. Maybe he doesn't like to call that a persona because to call it such wouldn't be controversial. The bottom line is that he visualizes users, makes decisions based on information about users, and prioritizes decisions based on that information. Designers in other contexts (larger organizations, complex applications, etc.) may not have the luxury of personally knowing representatives of the target audience. -- Dan On 11/14/07, Sara Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason touched on that during his opening remarks at sxsw interactive 2006. Which I can't seem to find the podcast for either... He said that instead, they made Basecamp with simple features, then launched and opened the discussion to the community, the same model that Mozilla uses. I enjoy this process more myself, as it seems to invoke interest, personal ownership, and community synergy. Sara Summers visual | interaction design 512-297-1330 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Robert Hoekman, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Celeste 'seele' Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: discuss@lists.interactiondesigners.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful I'm not sure how informed Jason Fried is of what a persona really is. I can't find a URL, but I swear he said once that he used to use them and eventually turned against them. They're [personas are] artificial, abstract, and fictitious. *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- | work: eightshapes.com | book: communicatingdesign.com | blog: greenonions.com | talk: +1 (301) 801-4850 *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza
Lisa: Hmmm... so is the song I'm clicking on from the original album or from a remake? Live or studio? I would imagine that they are circumventing any potential copyright infringement by simply being a search engine for existing sources of content. I'll guess they're pulling the audio of flash video files on gootube and the likes. Thats why you're going to see spotty results. Note that Pandora, which has its own library, will not allow you to play a specific song due to its license. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://gamma.ixda.org/discuss?post=22547 *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] EVENT REMINDER: NYC IxDA - The 7-Minute IxD Soapbox (a.k.a. Pecha Kucha) - Tue, 11/13
This was the first IXDA-NY event I've attended and I'm glad I did! The turnout was great and the enthusiasm of the speakers and organisers, infectious! Kudos to the organisers for putting together a great event - thanks to you guys, I have a few ideas that I am taking back home to the 'still nascent' IXDA Mumbai Group. That said: 1. Isnt pecha-kucha limited to 20-seconds per slide? That would have kept the presenters on their toes, and made sure we got through the slide show... 2. Is there a follow-up to the 7-min presentations? Like Joe and Leah for example, had a whole load of interesting stuff, and after the 7-mins sneak preview, can we get access to the full presentations? 3. Probably, i missed it in the start, but it would've been great to have a quick round of introductions, just to break the ice, i guess... These are just extremely minor comments, i guess its just our second nature to question and improve:) However, the event was great, and I was hoping there would be a couple more before I leave back for India...Thanks again for having me over! On Nov 14, 2007 11:33 AM, Robert Barlow-Busch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. It appears to me that pointy shoes, both men women, are really fashionable as according to this event. It seems that a few specific hand gestures are fashionable, as well... reaches out for an invisible ball ;-) How was the event, BTW? Did people enjoy it? I'm especially curious because the Waterloo F2F held a similar event last spring and I suspect we could learn from each other's experience. For instance, we had a few suggestions that 10 minutes would be better, but I'm not sure about that: we chose 7 minutes because it's enough time to cover almost any idea, but crazy-short enough that speakers wouldn't be tempted to cover too much ground. Would love to hear from folks who attended the NYC event. -- Robert Barlow-Busch Director of User Experience Terapath Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Regards Prachi Sakhardande Information Architect MphasiS, an EDS Company Mumbai, India *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxD Ethics: Business vs. User
I am going to take a bit of an issue with the premis here. Unless they are showing a measurement that is specific (absolute numbers or percentage) and are distorting those numbers they are hardly out and out telling a lie. You're right that systems can be inaccurate due to technology idiosyncrasies, but the specific story (or rumor) is that the mobile carriers do it deliberately for the purpose of driving up minutes. In which case, it's a lie. The premise of the question, really, is that we designers can be asked by our bosses to design deceptive systems in order to increase company profits. -Cf Christopher Fahey Behavior biz: http://www.behaviordesign.com me: http://www.graphpaper.com *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] EVENT REMINDER: NYC IxDA - The 7-Minute IxD Soapbox (a.k.a. Pecha Kucha) - Tue, 11/13
We were working on an IxDA version of the Rumsfeld Fighting Technique: http://www.poe-news.com/features.php?feat=31845 On Nov 14, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Robert Barlow-Busch wrote: 4. It appears to me that pointy shoes, both men women, are really fashionable as according to this event. It seems that a few specific hand gestures are fashionable, as well... reaches out for an invisible ball ;-) How was the event, BTW? Did people enjoy it? I'm especially curious because the Waterloo F2F held a similar event last spring and I suspect we could learn from each other's experience. For instance, we had a few suggestions that 10 minutes would be better, but I'm not sure about that: we chose 7 minutes because it's enough time to cover almost any idea, but crazy-short enough that speakers wouldn't be tempted to cover too much ground. Would love to hear from folks who attended the NYC event. -- Robert Barlow-Busch Director of User Experience Terapath Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA's Annual Board Meeting
dave malouf kirjoitti 13.11.2007 kello 18:12: Evangelizing the discipline has always been a core mission of the organization for sure. Petteri, do you have any suggestions on how we can do this? It is a really hard piece to knock out of the park considering some of the more tactical things we are working on. Fair question - I've thought this since yesterday and three things come into mind. (Don't ask what to association can do for you, ask what you can ...) 1) Expand and polish the Wikipedia entries (as you mentioned earlier, didn't you?). This is mainly a community effort, but the association can encourage and remind us to do so. These articles can be improved, IMHO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interaction_design, which should be linked to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scenario_%28computing%29 ... / Framework Definition (doesn't exist or isn't linked) ... / Design Refinement ... / Development Support (I guess someone should discuss about the IA and semantics of those terms/articles, but I'm not going to contribute to that part of the effort. I don't care if a paper prototype is a paper, a prototype or both. Just gimme the URL.) Putting semantics and IA aside, I think that #1: fixing Wikipedia entries would help our cause during year 2008. Using Wikipedia can hardly do harm for the cause, and anybody in this list can fix an entry without asking for permission. If you write something that is useful for developers and journalists, they'll Google it out and share with their colleagues. 2) We need to talk about IxD in some popular podcasts. If anybody is friends with Leo Laporte or John C., find an opportunity to get into their shows. Seriously. Your mother-in-law maybe doesn't listen to TWiT.tv, but hundreds of thousands of geeks and tech journalists do. 3) Is there a trivial way to track how we are doing with Wikipedia? For example, can we somehow make a page that displays the latest entries _which have something to do with IxD_ ? Maybe the smart masses who can code, could solve this for the rest of us?-) Thanks, Petteri -- Petteri Hiisilä Senior Interaction Designer iXDesign / +358505050123 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple is better than complex. Complex is better than complicated. - Tim Peters *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza
it's a cool, clean interface no question. however, i had questions about how they handle large data sets being returned. there are several common practices and patterns for this but i haven't seen how they implement them. songs and music-related content by their nature can encompass massive amounts of data. On 11/14/07, Lisa deBettencourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AHA! Fitts' Law at its finest! :-) Great stuff. Definitely one of those things where you go DOH! Of COURSE!. Love that they could pull it off in a web app. So, I typed in Metallica and got a relatively short list of songs (yes, my favorite band of all time). I then noticed the one thing missing from the returned list was the album name. The songs I got back weren't either sorted by album or had the album name in them. Hmmm... so is the song I'm clicking on from the original album or from a remake? Live or studio? ~Lisa *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- -- www.flyingyogi.com -- *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxD Ethics: Business vs. User
Actually, I heard a retired phone company exec admit that it is true, about the voicemail slowness set up deliberately to up the billing from it. I mean, I heard him admit it in an interview on an PRI news program, and those news programs vet their sources better than most journalism enterprises (slippery slope there, I know). But can I bib cite the exact program date and segment? No. By the nature of orality (and podcasting temporality), my memory tells me it was either the APM Marketplace Money segment, or APM Marketplace. I subscribe to both in iTunes, and I'd say it was in the last six months. That's as good as I can do. Yes, it is ethically slimey, but as technologically possible as those people who work the math for hedge funds to mine and aggregate all the percentages of a cent that can be skimmed from millions of broker float transactions. Chris On Nov 14, 2007 4:59 PM, Christopher Fahey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to take a bit of an issue with the premis here. Unless they are showing a measurement that is specific (absolute numbers or percentage) and are distorting those numbers they are hardly out and out telling a lie. You're right that systems can be inaccurate due to technology idiosyncrasies, but the specific story (or rumor) is that the mobile carriers do it deliberately for the purpose of driving up minutes. In which case, it's a lie. The premise of the question, really, is that we designers can be asked by our bosses to design deceptive systems in order to increase company profits. -Cf Christopher Fahey Behavior biz: http://www.behaviordesign.com me: http://www.graphpaper.com *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Paper is not a prototyping tool
Actually, I like paper as a prototyping tool, but I do more than one type of prototype, so flexibility is more essential than visual specificity. http://technical-writing.dionysius.com/ technical writing | consulting | development Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] analyzing qualitative data
Hello all, I have a background in statistics and it is easy for me to analyze quantitative data, but I am at a loss when it comes to analyzing qualitative data. I bought the book Qualitative Data Analysis : An Expanded Sourcebook by Alan Michael Huberman, but it was difficult to follow since it did not give examples that I can relate to. I would really appreciate it if someone could point me to information that will help me learn more about this topic. Thanks, Oliver *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples where personas are *not* useful
On 14/11/07 8:10 PM, kswang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, personas will not be able to define how the users are going to carry out the task or how they are going to approach their goals. I've distilled observed user behaviour into written personas along these lines .. one persona might be described as being a playful explorer, another a methodical and cautious planner, and a third as a smash-n-grab drive-by visitor type, amongst other approaches. That's usually enough to make the penny drop and prevent grounding by the designers. e. *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
