Re: [IxDA Discuss] Nintendo Wii and \Side Effects\
Something has to be said for it being the 3rd ranking all time selling game in history. 21.82 million units! Either this product is pure marketing creating a demand or there could be something to it :) On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Adam Tramposhadamtramp...@gmail.com wrote: I've always been skeptical at the prospect of wii-fitness. The wii-mote is localized to a specific region of the body, however many fitness activities require proper form throughout the whole body. The equipment is simply not designed to monitor things as nuanced as overall posture. Without the capable guidance of a trained fitness expert observing, instructing, and monitoring, people could very easily wind up seriously injuring themselves. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=44908 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog www.twitter.com/achong www.linkedin.com/in/achong Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] New Lululemon e-commerce site
I wonder why they didn't choose to host this on geocities or fortunecity. I think it could use a bit more flash and pizazz to be effective. More animated gifs with dogs and more flashing seizure inducing graphics. :) On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Anthony Hempell ahemp...@telus.net wrote: Here's one site that manages to bring together all of the current best practices of e-commerce interaction design. http://www.lululemon.com/shop/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog www.twitter.com/achong www.linkedin.com/in/achong Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] JOB: Senior Interaction Architect; Vancouver, BC; Full Time
This person will help to define process and shape the practice moving forward. If you want more information about this specific role and life at Blast give me an email: chongadr...@gmail.com If you wish to apply send an email to: care...@blastradius.com - Sr. Interaction Architect When it comes to engaging customers we believe something magical happens when companies move from product-flogger to consumer ally. Social networks are information highways and Blast Radius is in the fast lane. We understand it, we love it, and we believe it, which allows us to help our clients engage their customers more effectively. Position Objective: We have an opening in our Yaletown office for a Senior Interaction Architect which we define as: One who is passionate about aesthetic beauty coupled with interactive journeys and information taxonomies that are meaningful to a target audience. More simply put, a facilitator who guides us from point A to point B. The complexity comes with the ability to optimize the experience of the user’s journey, as well as the psychological aspects to layout and interface controls. Our Experience Design team is looking for a passionate, creative and process oriented Sr. Interaction Architect to work closely with Creative Directors, Business Analysts and other Design and Usability professionals. Responsibilities: -Contribute to the development of personas -Work collaboratively with creative, technical and business analysis team members, both internal and external -Research competitors to establish benchmarks -Articulate creative, user-centric, interactive solutions through workflows, sitemaps, wireframes, etc. -Maintain and develop high standards of Interaction Architect documentation -Support Interaction Architect design throughout lifecycle of projects -Apply you detailed knowledge of Usability best practices -Create interactive journeys that account for different users, various abilities and multiple circumstances -Get involved in prospective client pitch efforts -Mentor and train junior members of the team -Estimating projected hours required to complete tasks -Meet deadlines in a fast paced environment Skills and Experience: -At least 5-7 years experience in Internet and/or software UI design and/or architecture along with some project management experience -A related degree such as Interactive Arts, Communication Planning and Design, Architecture and/or Library Science -Detailed knowledge of Usability best practices -The ability to conceptualize the abstract and manufacture the concrete to explain it -An understanding of software such as Visio and/or Photoshop for creating site maps, wireframes and user flows -A strong attention to detail and exceptional organization, logic and analytical skills -The ability to ask appropriate questions and communicate effectively to a broad range of people: designers, executives, business development and technical staff -Know how to conceptualize abstract ideas and manufacture real-world solutions -Ability to meet deadlines in a fast paced environment required. Attributes: -A passion for understanding people and interaction -Ability to come up with solutions on the fly -Creative and open minded -Flexible -Highly organized -Confident and assertive in communicating with others -Willingness to participate in global or local Interaction Architect community groups -A desire to continually learn and share -Embrace challenges -Have a sense of humor (optional, but we’d really appreciate it.) -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog www.twitter.com/achong www.linkedin.com/in/achong Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Any thoughts on promo codes in an ecommerce experience?
I'm curious if anybody has some thoughts on the addition to promo codes to ecommerce pages of a site. Our client will have a lot of email and direct mail campaigns that lead users to input promo codes to get specific localized savings. We want to make it easy for these users to access and include the codes for savings. One thought is if we make the promo code entry global and overly pervasive, users without promo codes may feel left out and defer their purchase until they can find one? (not sure if this is even an issue). A couple of options we can take: 1) Include the ability to add promo codes on a hidden page associated to the DM or Email 2) Include the ability to add promo codes on all product pages next to a summary configurator 3) Include the ability to add promo codes only on a promo code page associated to a special pricing page 4) Include the ability to add promo codes only on the checkout experience I'm sure there are a few other options as well as combining some of the options but those are the first ones that come to mind. Any/All feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance! -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Design Career Path
David, I think the career path that Dan outlined loosely defines the next steps. Unfortunately I find that internally at my company I need to do a lot of lobbying to be invited at a more strategic level. I'm also a bit self-conscious about being able to speak the business vernacular and clearly articulate the ux plan mapped to that business understanding. For me I feel like unless I want to stay in an executional role I'll have to go back to school (for self-confidence and to get the business acumen). I went to the Pratt orientation earlier this month for Design Management and it sounds like a great program. That's where i'm putting my eggs, at least for now :) Adrian On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:37 PM, David Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan, Thanks for your reply. This is very interesting, and I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion around this topic. It would be interesting to know what the IxDA distribution looked like as far as level of skills. Unfortunately being a fairly new discipline (in the eyes of business), it's hard to understand what the next steps are. That's why I'm looking to people who have made that transition, maybe I can gleam some helpful nuggets of information on how I can proceed. Love to hear from others in that after senior ixder role. Thanks, David On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:10 AM, David Shaw wrote: Currently I am a senior IxDer and starting to plot out my career path. Would love to hear from those who were in my shoes before that made the transition to the next step. The hard part is at the top. It's a fairly straightforward path from junior designer -- designer -- sr. designer. After that, the career paths start moving in different directions: towards management (creative director type roles) or some kind of super specialist (lead designer). Or, you can go start your own firm and do a bit of both. How the transitions happens vary pretty widely depending on the company. Larger agencies and companies usually have fairly defined career paths, while smaller ones often don't. The simple answer is often to be already doing the next step in your career path. If your company doesn't recognize that and promote you, probably somewhere else will (all things being equal and stable). Dan Dan Saffer Principal, Kicker Studio http://www.kickerstudio.com http://www.odannyboy.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Art provokes thinking, design solves problems w: http://www.davidshaw.info Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How do i get started?
Education is great if you can afford the time/effort/money involved but for a person in your current position I would say try and read and absorb as much user experience as you can. Get yourself comfortable at basics of interaction design/Information architecture/usability. Continue to read mailing list, read blogs, and read books. Here some good starters: Communication Design - Dan Brown Designing for Interaction - Dan Saffer About Face - Alan Cooper, Robert Reimann, David Cronin The Elements of User Experience - Jesse James Garrett Information Architecture for the www - Peter Morville, Lou Rosenfeld Don't Make me Think - Steve Krug If you get through those you should feel more comfortable with process and be able to start experimenting with practice hope that helps. On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:19 AM, manjunath n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello members, Basically i am a visual designer working in a small team. We do detailed prototype design on Inkjet printers using flash. Its basically to give a complete understanding of the work flow like copy,print,scan etc for user research and testing. In these recent days, my personal interest lies in interaction designing and supporting that my boss wants me to take up some task flows as exercize to start off. But i do not acquire any sort of training or experience in Interaction design. Can any one advise how do i get started and what skills i should require to get into Interaction design? Thanks in advance, Regards, Max Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] [discuss]: Site Map - How important is it as a link?
Aside from it being a navigation crutch. I've been told by our SEO manager that it's useful for spiders to index so that could be a reason to include it. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:01 AM, Sachin wrote: Site Map: I have been wondering how important the link Site Map is which I am planning to do away with on a corporate website? What I am looking at is to have those few sections and their sub-links upfront at the bottom of the page for all the subsequent pages besides the home page. Is this going to be too much information for the user to handle? Hi Sachin, Earlier this year, I wrote about what you're trying to do here: The Site Map: An Information Architecture Cop-Out http://www.uie.com/articles/Sitemap/ If users are going to your site map, then there's likely to be something seriously wrong with the information architecture of your site. We tell clients that if they find a substantial number are going to the site map from their home page to try an experiment and populate their home page with the site map content. They typically see both a reduction in the site map visits and an increase in the user satisfaction. It sounds like that's the direction you're heading. Your plan to put all the links on the home page is fine. The problem with links isn't the quantity. It's the scent. Users need a clear way to tell what each link does and how it's different from the other links. Make the scent clear by providing great trigger words, and you'll be fine. Testing is essential. Wouldn't try this without it. Resources on scent: Designing for the Scent of Information (costs $) http://www.uie.com/reports/scent_of_information/ Lifestyles of Link-Rich Home Pages http://www.uie.com/articles/linkrich_home_pages/ The Right Trigger Words http://www.uie.com/articles/trigger_words/ Hope that helps, Jared Jared M. Spool User Interface Engineering 510 Turnpike St., Suite 102, North Andover, MA 01845 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +1 978 327 5561 http://uie.com Blog: http://uie.com/brainsparks Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Usability testing a build and supplementing it with paper mocks
I'm currently in the process of usability testing a build. The build consists of a lot of functionality but some of those parts are not connected to the main navigation. People can still access the functionality but not from the correct places. I'm considering providing the user tasks to complete and filling in the missing flow pieces with paper mocks. Do you think it's going to be too disorientating going from a working build to a static mock or will people generally be able to make that leap of faith and understand they are still moving within the flow of the site? Alternatively, I could test the interaction design for the functioning pieces exclusively but I feel like there would be a missed opportunity to test the IA/nomenclature and a wholistic view of the overall concept of the site. Hope that made sense. Thanks for any feedback -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Jobs in Asia-Pacific
Hi Itamar, We spoke briefly before in a thread where I was asking for an Asia-pacifc design related job search engine. You mentioned that there were some openings at Autodesk in Shanghai and I've seen one through recruit.net that caught my eye: http://job.csdn.net/Jobs/ViewJob/C_5f2585824f2a47a694fcc5916835f0b1.aspx I was wondering if you wouldn't mind answering some questions about this position and your understanding of the user experience team at Autodesk. If there is someone else I should direct these questions to, would you please forward me their contact information. Thank you for your time Kind Regards, Adrian On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Itamar Medeiros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my recruting effort for Interaction Designers at Autodesk in Shanghai, I've been able to locate strong candidates through coroflot.com, which is a specialized in the design community (by the way, I'm still looking for interaction designers!), so I would suggest to start there. For the Chinese Market, the large majority of the posts are by local companies, in Chinese websites... one of the most popular is 51 Jobs (http://www.51jobs.cn/); a lot of IT companies are using it. Good luck! { Itamar Medeiros } Information Designer designing clear, understandable communication by caring to structure, context, and presentation of data and information website ::: http://designative.info/ mobile ::: 86 13671503252 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://gamma.ixda.org/discuss?post=24663 *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Repurposing Personas
Just wondering if anybody has found it useful to repurpose personas that were created for a specific project into another area of the company. I.e. have you successfully translated personas into something that call center customer service reps can use to identify common problems and possible solutions. Or get your frontline staff into the headspace of a user to have empathy over a technology problem or service. Any tactical examples would be much appreciated or a good bashing on why this shouldn't be done. Thanks! -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Valuable courses for interaction Designers
Narrative and New Media # Analyze traditional linear narrative multi-media construction (primarily film and animation) # Analyze multi-linear multi-media narrative aesthetics and construction (graphic novels, comic strip, video-game, hypertext, website, interactive video, interactive installation) # Plan and produce linear and multi-linear narrative projects. # Develop a sound understanding of the principles of linear and multi-linear narrative # Develop a sound understanding of the emergent aesthetics of new media environments Kinesthetic Space # have enhanced their physical and perceptual awareness of social and cultural space # identify how perception and embodiment affect the design of performances, installations, experience design, or web design. # possess a broader range of concepts from cultural theory and apply them to their artistic process # design and produce a media enhanced performance, installation or interface with a kinesthetic focus # write a production document integrating theory and practice Interaction and Reception Audience-driven interaction design issues are introduced through applied projects integrating sub-cultural theory, Marketing and demographic research as well as Information design modeling within the context of the knowledge economy. Students expand their communication design knowledge, skills and abilities with increasingly complex and ill-defined design problems. A capstone project integrates diverse theory into an interaction design proposal that begins from a specific audience and is tested within it to propose meaningful interactions for the individual user and the cultural groups to which they belong. Visualizing Interaction Visualizing Interaction explores the theory and development of visual thinking and communication skills that students will require to investigate and communicate the dynamics of interaction. Students will be introduced to a range of rapid visualization techniques including 2-d and perspective sketching, schematic representation, information graphics, visual explanations and storyboarding through a progressive series of visualization projects. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Shanghai
Sorry not to draw away interest from your original post but I was just curious if anyone could provide a list of IxD related companies in Shanghai. On Dec 16, 2007 9:37 PM, Daniel Szuc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Itamar: This may interest: http://hk.ixda.org/ http://www.upachina.org/userfriendly2007/default_en.htm (we plan to organise another in 2008) Photos from UF2007 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/uf2007/ http://www.upachina.org/index_en.asp http://uxnet.org/cat/locales/beijing http://uxnet.org/cat/locales/hongkong rgds, Dan On 17/12/2007, at 10:32 AM, Itamar Medeiros wrote: Hello, there! My name is Itamar Medeiros, originally from Brazil, but living in Shanghai for the last two-and-a-half years: I first came here to start the User Interaction Design track at the Visual Communication Undergraduate Program at Raffles Design Institute in Shanghai... now I'm working as a Product Designer for Autodesk. I was wondering if there was any other IxDers based in Shanghai: I would love to meet face-to-face with other designers and -- eventually -- have a local group of IxDA here. Anybody out there? -- { Itamar Medeiros } Information Designer designing clear, understandable communication by caring to structure, context, and presentation of data and information website ::: http://designative.info/ mobile ::: +86 13671503252 skype ::: designative *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Examples of Maps/Navigation for 3D interactive experiences
We're trying to create an immersive interactive experience by allowing the user to explore different 3d environments to find content. I'm trying to make accessing that content more direct if the user decides they rather not explore. Just curious if anybody has some examples of navigation/mini map married to a 3D interactive experience. Think of halo3.com/believe but with navigation allowing you to go all the points of interest and maybe not so linear in terms of the explore path. any replies are much appreciated! -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of Maps/Navigation for 3D interactive experiences
Thanks for the examples. I guess the content would have more perspective to the 3D elements than just a top view. It would be more like a virtual walkthrough in a way. On Dec 7, 2007 4:40 PM, Alvin Woon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm kinda wondering what kind of content you are specifically looking for too. If it hovers around the field of 3D map navigation (virtual tour), I think Harvard and University of Waterloo( http://www.uwaterloo.ca/map/map.php) have a good map site. Or University of Nebraska-Lincoln for that matter (http://www1.unl.edu/tour/) - shameless plug. On Dec 7, 2007 2:57 PM, Bryan Minihan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of content? I have seen Google Maps interfaces used for things like navigating a corporate hierarchy and other 2-dimensional maps, with markers. It's quite flexible and the controls are becoming more familiar to people used to Google Maps. Guess I wonder what you could get from adding 3rd dimension to your user experience, that you couldn't get from a more sophisticated, intuitive 2D interface. Bryan http://www.bryanminihan.com We're trying to create an immersive interactive experience by allowing the user to explore different 3d environments to find content. Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Millenials are coming
I think this article gives a more accurate view of the needs/wants of Millenials: http://hiring.fastcompany.com/columns/taugustine/20071015.html On Nov 16, 2007 6:27 AM, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was my thought as well. I am old enough to have heard many sermons about the 'me generation' when the target was baby boomers. The millennials piece could very well have been lifted directly out of one of those 'How to Manage Gen X' books; changing the Gen X terminology to 'millennial'. A company has to have a pretty high margin (or a lot of slave labor) to coddle inexperienced employees without going broke in the process. Reeling this back to a business discussion, unless we are inclined to think that the fundamentals of business (competition, profitability) have been repealed, we will see millennials adapt to business culture or be faced with a lot of extra time to climb Mount Everest. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Nish-Lapidus Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:08 PM To: Joseph Selbie Cc: IxDA Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Millenials are coming Does every generation say that of the one older than them? And vice-versa? This doesn't seem like anything new to me *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Adrian Chong www.adrianchong.com/blog *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help