Re: [slim] Issues with SB3

[Michael Herger]

(found the answer to that one), and decided to go back to the 6.3.1 for


For what reason? Can't be the artwork alone, can it? :-)


now. Anyway, before this actions the clock was always visible on my
SB3. Now when I shut of the computer, so does the SB3. IE no clock...


Try the BRIGHTNESS button on your remote control.

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[slim] Issues with SB3

[Mattiasa]

Hello everybody. I'm new to this forum, and I hope my questions aren't
already answered. I looked thorugh the three first pages and found some
answers anyway... :-)

Well, here's the deal. Yesterday I downloaded the new Slimserver 6.5.0.
I installed it, had some difficulties in finding the "Browse by artwork"
(found the answer to that one), and decided to go back to the 6.3.1 for
now. Anyway, before this actions the clock was always visible on my
SB3. Now when I shut of the computer, so does the SB3. IE no clock...
I'm a bit confused. Does anyone know why this happens? I will
install the 6.5.0 today again, but I would really like th clock to work
even when the computer is off Is it a setting?

Thx in advance


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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[smc2911]

Nostromo;138512 Wrote: 
> EDIT: I quickly checked, and it seems that the Squeezebox supports
> gapless playback of AAC and AlAC files. Am I dreaming all this??? I
> don't hear the gaps I normally hear on my iPod. Now, I'm confused.
In think that the limitation is with your iPod rather than the format.
Most formats should be easy to play without gaps, but that doesn't mean
all software and hardware players will be gapless (including older
iPods). Mp3s are a little harder to deal with, but not impossible. You
could always upgrade to the latest iPods and then you should get
gapless playback for all the audio formats it supports.


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[slim] Re: Problems with Live365 and SS 6.5?

[mschiff]

Live365 does not work at all on my Slimserver 6.5. I get the Live365
menu of options, but all of them blank out the left side of the browser
window and nothing happens. 

I am a registered premium user of Live365 (no ads).

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[slim] Updating Squeezebox always sucks

[wickedbob]

I have just installed slimserver 6.5.0 and low and behold..  i can no
longer browse my music collection through a web browser.
Jumbled code with arrays popping up and I can no longer select any
dropdown menus (even to change skins!).
I would appreciate it if slimdevices released stuff that didn't require
me to muck around to get things working correctly.
This isn't the first time.


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[slim] Re: 6.5: I'm getting raw HTML code in the default skin

[boybees]

clear firefox cache and restarted, still having the problem


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[slim] Re: Questions about new 24/96 support

[freelunch]

Bump...


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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[gsalton]

ceejay;138637 Wrote: 
> have you tried James' itunesupdate plugin?
> 
> http://www.jamescraig.co.uk/SlimServer/index.html
> 
> Ceejay


Thanks! I'm trying to install it now. That said, installation seems
more complex than it could be - which might indicate that including in
7.0 would still be useful.

I'm really hoping this works as is, though.


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[slim] Question on 6.5 release notes

[MeSue]

Can anyone explain what this means in the release notes?

# Support for generic UPnP AV Media Servers. They can be browsed and
supported file types can be streamed from them.

Is there a chance MC will work with J River Media Centers UPnP server?


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[slim] Re: Problems with Live365 and SS 6.5?

[ptemples]

Yep, I upgraded today and am experiencing the same, exact symptoms!
Live365 comes up okay on Squeezenetwork but not on my local slimserver
6.5, running under Fedora Core 5.

Phil


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[slim] Re: How do I get Windows Firewall to allow connection to the SB?

[SteveEast]

Allow these 3 ports:

TCP 3483, UDP 3483, TCP 9000

Steve.


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[slim] Re: My various artists ARTISTS are missing

[arturo]

Nope, that's how I had it set already (and I think I've been current for
the last several official releases). To be certain, I reset all the
fields, cleared and rescanned again, and I still can't browse to
artists that appear on various artist compilations when I browse by
artist. 

Interestingly, there's an artist called "various artists", but when I
click on it, the server goes to the top of the browse list for every
album in my library (instead of the VA collections only). If I select
any single album from that list and click on it, I go to a screen that
says "0 albums with 0 songs by 0 artists."

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[slim] Re: Gapless mp3 playback when is it going to be fixed??

[radish]

Nostromo;138715 Wrote: 
> 
> Sorry if my question was -slightly- off topic.
I wasn't criticising, merely clarifying.


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[slim] Rescan Causes Slimserver to Stop in 6.5

[miguelk]

I think I've narrowed the problem with Slimserver stopping to
rescanning, whether scheduled or forced.  Can anyone help me out with
this issue.  I'm running XP...thx


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[slim] How do I get Windows Firewall to allow connection to the SB?

[Chop]

This seems like a dumb question as I've had the SB2 since it came out an
never had this problem but I'm at a loss.

I have my computer and the SB connected via a wireless router. 
However, I can't get Slimserver to find the SB without turning off the
widows XP firewall.  

I never had this issue before as it asked for the exception when I
first hooked up the SB ages ago.  However, I recently had to reset my
firewall to defaults and now it won't even give me that option (and I
have it checked to allow exceptions and notify me when there is a
blocked connection).

Maybe I'm just forgetting something that I did ages ago...Anyways, can
anyone help?

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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[SteveEast]

Nostromo;138705 Wrote: 
> 
> And when Slimserver scans your music folder, it reads what's on the
> file. In the case of my WAV file, Slimserver only knows the filename,
> that its a WAV... He has no idea who's the artist, the album, the type
> of music...

That's only true if you scan directly. If you scan through iTunes you
get all the tags.

Steve.


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[slim] Re: Gapless mp3 playback when is it going to be fixed??

[Nostromo]

AFAIK, AAC isn't gapless. 

Sorry if my question was -slightly- off topic.


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[slim] Re: My various artists ARTISTS are missing

[radish]

That's intentional (and has been for several versions now). If you don't
like it, go to Server Settings/Behavior and select "List compilation
albums under each artist".


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[slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?

[malsbury]

malsbury;138710 Wrote: 
> So it either is that Sirius changed and broke the plugin or that
> something introduced in the run up to the offical 6.5.0 has broken the
> plugin.  If sirus has not changed and I get a chance, I will try to
> roll back through SVN to see at which point the plugin breaks.
I checked out the build from the 8th out of SVN and am seeing the same
problem.  Since I know that the plugin worked with the build of 6.5b at
that time it looks like Sirius.com may have changed enough to break the
current version of the plugin.

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[slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?

[malsbury]

Xhorder;138700 Wrote: 
> I'm currently getting stuck at the "Retreiving Channel Data" stage...
> 
> Restarting slimserver didn't help... it still get's stuck at the same
> place.
> 
> I'm running linux with slimserver 6.5, and have been sucessfully using
> the plugin for months prior to this.
> 
> Any tricks for getting past this??

I am seeing a similar problem.  When I run the debug option for plugins
this is what I see when I select SIRIUS from the Internet Radio menu:
Code:

2006-09-22 20:53:03.9450 SiriusRadio: Starting up getTitle monitoring.
  2006-09-22 20:53:03.9457 SiriusRadio: getCategories: 
http://www.sirius.com/sirius/mediaplayer/player/common/lineup/category.jsp?category=&genre=&channel=
  2006-09-22 20:53:03.9618 SiriusRadio: BLOCKING2
  2006-09-22 20:53:04.1133 SiriusRadio: error getting 
http://www.sirius.com/sirius/mediaplayer/player/common/lineup/category.jsp?category=&genre=&channel=
 Caller:getCategories
  2006-09-22 20:53:04.1138 SiriusRadio: Failed to connect to 
http://www.sirius.com/sirius/mediaplayer/player/common/lineup/category.jsp?category=&genre=&channel=
 (400 Bad Request)
  2006-09-22 20:53:04.1140 SiriusRadio: Network error. Unblocking client.
  2006-09-22 20:53:04.1305 SiriusRadio: UNBLOCKING1


I am running the official rpm of 6.5.0, previously I was running the
nighlty version SlimServer_6.5_v2006-09-08.noarch.rpm and know that the
current version of the plugin worked with that.  So it either is that
Sirius changed and broke the plugin or that something introduced in the
run up to the offical 6.5.0 has broken the plugin.  If sirus has not
changed and I get a chance, I will try to roll back through SVN to see
at which point the plugin breaks.

If you need any additional info or would like a fix tested let me
know.

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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[Nostromo]

geraint smith;138665 Wrote: 
> No, I checked, too, and you're quite right, and I was quite wrong, about
> AAC and ALAC.  Sorry! (That shows how much I use them!) 

MP3 and AAC don't support gapless playback, but there are workarounds.
Some MP3 players, for example, can do it. When I did some tests earlier
today with AAC and ALAC tracks, I didn't hear any gaps. Its a bit
confusing, since the Squeezebox isn't supposed to be able, as of yet,
to remove the gaps.

> I disagree about AIFF, though. In fact, I'd put it the other way round.
> I don't see the point in NOT using aiff (or .wav). They are,
> unarguably, the gold standard sonically, which one cannot say of any of
> the compressed formats, about the relative merits of which or
> differences between which there always seems to be some sort of barney
> going on somewhere. There's lots else in favour of not using
> compression - flexibility, rapidity of ripping, ability to
> upsample/edit digitised vinyl, simplicity of processing, not to mention
> all the things you can do with them on Squeezebox - that make make
> ripping to anything else seem to me like spoiling the ship for a
> ha'p'eth of tar. The only argument I can see in its favour is disc
> space, but this is now so incredibly cheap that it seems to me like
> false economy to stint on it and risk (perhaps) compromising the output
> of, for instance, a five figure (or more) audio setup.

I somewhat new at all this, but I'm a bit sceptical about the so-called
"sonic superiority" of AIFF over FLAC or ALAC. I doubt anyone can tell
the difference in a blind test. Maybe people 6 figure audio setups. I
certainly can't tell them apart with my sad little 3 figure audio
setup. ;-) But lets leave it at that.

> Concerning tagging - now, you definitely lose me. I've never myself
> found any shortcomings in or limitations to the labelling that I need
> of Aiff files. This may well be because - being a benighted iTunes
> user! - I don't know anything at all about it, and don't really know
> what is possible. That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Lead me,
> therefore, to tagging Nirvana, O Nostromo, for I comprehend it not.

Like I said, I'm new at all this. I'm sure that somebody else could
explain all this to you a lot better. Mmmm... I just ripped a file in
WAV using iTunes. And it seems that you can label it just like any
other file. There are no apparent limitations. That said, when you look
at the file itself, there's almost no information (only the filename,
basically). In other words, iTunes doesn't seem to write down the
information on the music file itself. So if your computer crashes, and
you loose all your music, you'll have to relabel everything, even
though you backed up all your WAV's.


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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[jeffluckett]

> 
> Pretty sure there would be cross platform issues with this, but there
> may be ways round that.
> 

I'm sure it would not be without some difficulty, or I'm sure it'd have
been implemented by now.

It seems one of the more recurrent complaints is grumbling about the
scanning process.  I ESPECIALLY hate the "dump and rescan" option. :(

> 
> One of the SlimDevices guys (i think it was Dean) stated in the past
> that right now they haven't done a huge amount of optimisation on the
> SQL queries for scanning. As they were moving to MySQL in 6.5 i think
> they just wanted it to work reliably before they spend time on
> optimising and tweaking. I would expect to see a speed improvement in
> future versions as the Devs get more used to what MySQL can really do
> for them :)
> 

Agreed ... that's why I was putting in the 7.0 wish list.  I've worked
with SQLite before, and am aware of the limitations, and the sometimes
screwy queries that you have to write for it.

Glad to hear that query optimization is on the TODO list now that a
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[slim] Re: Wish List for SlimDevices

[mikaellowgren]

I'd like to be able to upload m3u files to my squeezenetwork and have
them as playlists in favorites.

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[slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?

[Xhorder]

I'm currently getting stuck at the "Retreiving Channel Data" stage...

Restarting slimserver didn't help... it still get's stuck at the same
place.

I'm running linux with slimserver 6.5, and have been sucessfully using
the plugin for months prior to this.

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[slim] When can we order just the new remote?

[boerner]

Hello all,

Back when the Transporter was announced, Slimdevices (I believe it was
Mr. Adams if memory serves, and yes I was too lazy to search) stated
that the new remote that comes with the Transporter would be available
for order separately (as it will also work with a SB3). Any update when
just the remote will be available, and perhaps cost?

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[slim] Re: What happened to Artist on display?

[ArgoNavis]

Flamingo, I'm having the same issues.  At first, I thought I was
misunderstanding what the "Title Format" setting should control,
however Ceejay kindly made me aware that it was, in fact, the proper
knob to twiddle.

What follows is a table of what I am experiencing.  I selected each
title format in turn, then selected Home > Albums and an album from my
list.  These are my observations (the format number is in
parentheses):


Code:


  (0) TITLE
  Walkin' After Midnight  from Dreamland  by Madeleine Peyroux
  
  (1) DISC-TRACKNUM. TITLE
  1. Walkin' After Midnight  from Dreamland  by Madeleine Peyroux  
  
  (2) TRACKNUM. TITLE
  1. Walkin' After Midnight  from Dreamland  by Madeleine Peyroux  
  
  (3) TRACKNUM. ARTIST - TITLE
  1. Madeleine Peyroux - Walkin' After Midnight  from Dreamland  
  
  (4) TRACKNUM. TITLE (ARTIST)
  1. Walkin' After Midnight (Madeleine Peyroux)  from Dreamland  
  
  (5) TRACKNUM. TITLE - ARTIST - ALBUM
  1. Walkin' After Midnight - Madeleine Peyroux - Dreamland
  
  (6) FILE.EXT
  01 Walkin' After Midnight.mp3  from Dreamland  by Madeleine Peyroux  
  
  (7) TRACKNUM. TITLE from ALBUM by ARTIST
  1. Walkin' After Midnight from Dreamland by Madeleine Peyroux
  
  (8) TITLE (ARTIST)
  Walkin' After Midnight (Madeleine Peyroux)  from Dreamland  
  
  (9) ARTIST - TITLE
  Madeleine Peyroux - Walkin' After Midnight  from Dreamland  
  



At this point it seems clear that something isn't quite working
properly.  I couldn't find a bug report on this issue -- should one be
submitted?

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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[egd]

mrchrispy;138450 Wrote: 
> The single biggest reason to use the iTunes library is because you own
> an iPod.

Anyone wanting to manage their iPod music library should have a look at
a freeware program called vPod.  It does everything you need to
add/delete music on you iPod without all the iTunes bloatware.


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[slim] My various artists ARTISTS are missing

[arturo]

Just upgraded to 6.5 (running Win XP Sp2, SqueezeBox v3), upgraded to
the latest firmware release, cleared and rescanned my library. 

Now, when browsing by Artists, I no longer see any artists that appear
only on various artists compilations. If I browse by Album or by Music
Folder, I can find and play the tracks, but they still don't show up in
"artists view". 

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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[geraint smith]

blackbear;138676 Wrote: 
> Sorry, but that is just plain wrong. You seem ignorant of the difference
> lossy and lossless compressed formats. With lossless formats, such as
> FLAC, all information is retained, and when uncompressed, an exact
> duplicate of the original bytestream is achieved. Thus, there is no
> sonic difference between a .wav and a .flac of the same song. They are
> both "the gold standard".
> 
> Yes, disk space has become very cheap, but so has proccessing power,
> and the cost of compressing and decompressing is no excuse not to use
> (lossless) compression.
> 
> And, as Nostromo correctly ponted out, .aiff and .wav have inferior or
> nonexistent tagging capabilities, unlike FLAC and many others. Perhaps
> iTunes hides that from you (I wouldn't know as I don't use iTunes)

Please don't start throwing accusations of ignorance around. It's
ill-mannered, boring, unnecessary and also happens to be wrong.  This
was a simple mis-phrasing on my part. I meant that there is continuing
argument about the merits or otherwise of lossless compressed formats.
Listen to any bunch of audiophiles, and they'll probably be at it at
some time. There is no such argument about the sonic qualities of the
uncompressed formats.

Why does one need an "excuse" to use an uncompressed format? I happen
to prefer uncompressed files because I find them more versatile and
useful and I'm also not convinced that adding to the complexity of any
process is necessarily a good thing. (Nobody mentioned the cost of
processing as an argument, I believe.) That is a perfectly reasonable -
and reasonably well-informed and rational - position to hold. It
certainly doesn't strike me as terribly provocative. 

What you say about tagging merely repeats, with more aggression but
without imparting any additional information, a point about which I'd
already agreed I knew nothing because I use iTunes, and therefore am
not aware that I need to know anything - which may, or may not, be an
advantage of using iTunes, depending on your point of view. But I'm
really not interested in an argument. I was rather hoping for an
entertaining and possibly illuminating discussion.


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[slim] Re: Gapless mp3 playback when is it going to be fixed??

[Nostromo]

Do you mean that the gaps are removed in the transcoding process?


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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[Nostromo]

On the different file formats:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?BeginnersGuideToFileFormats

About tags:

> You will almost certainly want your music files to contain information
> (e.g. Artist, Album, Title etc) in Tags. Most file formats will manage
> this - but not WAV.

They don't mention AIFF. Maybe its better than WAV for tagging, I don't
know. 

Tags can also contain other types of information, like the genre (rock,
baroque, classical, romantic...), ratings and the very useful comments.
These can very useful to set up playlists.


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[slim] Re: Wish List for SlimDevices

[mikaellowgren]

I don't know if it's even possible to have all that kind of
functionality from SB3 inside a small portable device.

Soon there will be public WiFi networks in all major cities I guess.
Netgear has made a skype-phone...

I'd like to buy either a add-on to my iPod that enables me to listen to
Pandora/SN over Wifi, or a full standalone streaming SlimPod...


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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[blackbear]

geraint smith;138665 Wrote: 
> 
> ..
> I disagree about AIFF, though. In fact, I'd put it the other way round.
> I don't see the point in NOT using aiff (or .wav). They are, unarguably,
> the gold standard sonically, which one cannot say of any of the
> compressed formats, 
> ..
> 

Sorry, but that is just plain wrong. You are clearly ignorant of the
difference lossy and lossless compressed formats. With lossless
formats, such as FLAC, all information is retained, and when
uncompressed, an exact duplicate of the original bytestream is
achieved. Thus, there is no sonic difference between a .wav and a .flac
of the same song. They are both "the gold standard".

And, as Nostromo correctly ponted out, .aiff and .wav have inferior or
nonexistent tagging capabilities, unlike FLAC and many others. Perhaps
iTunes hides that from you (I wouldn't know as I don't use iTunes)


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[slim] Re: Gapless mp3 playback when is it going to be fixed??

[andyg]

Those would use the FLAC decoder.  Gapless mp3 will be in 6.5.1.


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[slim] Re: Gapless mp3 playback when is it going to be fixed??

[Nostromo]

Am I dreaming or did they fix it 6.5? I checked with some AAC and ALAC
tracks and I don't hear gaps.


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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[geraint smith]

Nostromo;138512 Wrote: 
> :lol:
> 
> ALAC supports gapless playback? Are you sure? EDIT: I quickly checked,
> and it does seem to support gapless playback. But I don't think that
> plain vanilla AAC supports gapless. And neither AAC or ALAC support FWD
> and REV. 
> 
> As for AIFF, I really don't see the point in using it. If its anything
> like WAV, there's no difference, soundwise, with ALAC or FLAC, AIFF
> tracks take a lot more of space and its a poor choice for tagging
> purposes.
> 
> On ReplayGain
> 
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RGFoobar
> 
> But its not recommended for music with high dynamic range, like
> classical.

No, I checked, too, and you're quite right, and I was quite wrong,
about AAC and ALAC.  Sorry! (That shows how much I use them!) I
disagree about AIFF, though. In fact, I'd put it the other way round. I
don't see the point in NOT using aiff (or .wav). They are, unarguably,
the gold standard sonically, which one cannot say of any of the
compressed formats, about the relative merits of which or differences
between which there always seems to be some sort of barney going on
somewhere. There's lots else in favour of not using compression -
flexibility, rapidity of ripping, ability to upsample/edit digitised
vinyl, simplicity of processing, not to mention all the things you can
do with them on Squeezebox - that make make ripping to anything else
seem to me like spoiling the ship for a ha'p'eth of tar. The only
argument I can see in its favour is disc space, but this is now so
incredibly cheap that it seems to me like false economy to stint on it
and risk (perhaps) compromising the output of, for instance, a five
figure (or more) audio setup.

Concerning tagging - now, you definitely lose me. I've never myself
found any shortcomings in or limitations to the labelling that I need
of Aiff files. This may well be because - being a benighted iTunes
user! - I don't know anything at all about it, and don't really know
what is possible. That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Lead me,
therefore, to tagging Nirvana, O Nostromo, for I comprehend it not.


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[slim] Re: Curious-- SB3 wouldn't turn OFF

[dgpretzel]

"from the wiki"

Oops.  Apologize for not doing my homework.





"In 6.5 we use a different method for radio called direct streaming.
The player actually makes the audio connection directly to the remote
server..."

Ahah!  That explains it.  The SB was playing (with no connection to SS
or SN) for >3 minutes.  Maybe 5 minutes.  So, although I didn't really
know how big the buffer was, I guessed that it was not THAT big.  Now I
see.


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[slim] Re: Using a network drive with Windows Slimserver 6.5

[aubuti]

Good to hear that that approach works in this case, too.


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Re: [slim] Re: 6.5 - browser refresh no longer works in IE6

[kdf]

Quoting M3Rocket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Definitely a problem with the Default skin. I've had this problem with
the daily builds of 6.5, then 6.5b2 and b3, and now 6.5.0. Funny thing
is that the refresh works fine if I use other skins like fishbone for
instance.


bug 4192
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[slim] Re: 6.5 - browser refresh no longer works in IE6

[M3Rocket]

Definitely a problem with the Default skin. I've had this problem with
the daily builds of 6.5, then 6.5b2 and b3, and now 6.5.0. Funny thing
is that the refresh works fine if I use other skins like fishbone for
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[slim] Re: No transporter skin in SoftSqueeze?

[mpjohnst]

Doh! Thanks, I hadn't considered additional display options would be
available under the skins.
-Matt


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[slim] Problems with Live365 and SS 6.5?

[fred7]

Is there a problem with the new Slimserver 6.5 and Live365? The lists of
genres, stations and my presets all come up but when I try to connect it
just sits at Connecting... Is anyone else having this problem? I saw
that there was a problem in SqueezeNetwork with Live365 that has since
been fixed. Does SlimServer have the same problem but a fix is being
prepared? I can get to Live365 via SqueezeNetwork.


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[slim] Re: Wish List for SlimDevices

[peterbell]

florca;138468 Wrote: 
> What you need is the late, lamented empeg... 
Ah yes!  I haven't heard from/of Hugo Fiennes for quite a long time.  I
wonder what he's up to now.


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[slim] Re: Wish List for SlimDevices

[diomark]

would also love to be able to fix bad tags directly from the web
interface.. 

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[slim] Re: Using a network drive with Windows Slimserver 6.5

[Paul_B]

Okay got it working. Had to use an old trick which is to create a local
account to match the account on the NAS. Use the same password on both
and then channge the service account to use the local account.

Windows will pass the account and password to the NAS and as they match
it ignores the fact they are from different domains.

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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[ceejay]

gsalton;138634 Wrote: 
> I'd love it if future versions could update the playcount in iTunes,
> since I manage many of my playlists based on how often I've listened to
> a particular track. Should just be a matter of updating the iTunes
> database.

have you tried James' itunesupdate plugin?

http://www.jamescraig.co.uk/SlimServer/index.html

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[slim] Re: 6.5: I'm getting raw HTML code in the default skin

[Millwood]

I had a whole lot of trouble with the default skin until I cleared my
browser cache and restarted the browser.  firefox 1.5.0.7


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[slim] Re: Genres Missing in Random Mix with 6.5

[Dennis]

I tried a clean install (uninstall  the old version, delete everything
from program files\slimserver, install the new version), that worked
for me. I've got an error message (something like ïnclude active perl
in your PATH, but until now, no probs and everything is working fine.
Except you have to reinstall the plug ins :(

Hope it helps, greetz from NL

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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[gsalton]

I'd love it if future versions could update the playcount in iTunes,
since I manage many of my playlists based on how often I've listened to
a particular track. Should just be a matter of updating the iTunes
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Re: [slim] No transporter skin in SoftSqueeze?

[kdf]

Quoting mpjohnst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Any advice?  I'd like to give the new transporter skin a whirl. Thanks
a bunch.


select the slim devices skin.

check the "display style" pulldown.
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[slim] No transporter skin in SoftSqueeze?

[mpjohnst]

I just upgraded to 6.5.0 and uninstalled my SoftSqueeze2.  Then I went
to the help page, updated my java environment and installed
SoftSqueeze3.  It started using my old skin (woodgrain) and the auido
buffer was still set at 256000 so I think it might have retained some
of my settings.  It does report that it is version 3.0 though.  Problem
is I only have choices for the original 4 skins and there are no options
I can see to add new ones.  

Any advice?  I'd like to give the new transporter skin a whirl. Thanks
a bunch.
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[slim] Re: Wish List for SlimDevices

[diomark]

Would love to be able to filter out artists or albums that only appear x
number of times.. optional of course and the artist/album should still
show up when searched for directly.

I posted this request here as well before seeing this thread - 
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27748

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[slim] Re: Curious-- SB3 wouldn't turn OFF

[andyg]

In 6.5 we use a different method for radio called direct streaming.  The
player actually makes the audio connection directly to the remote server
(or via a proxy if you've set that option).  So without an SS/SN
connection it will continue to play as long as you still have a net
connection.  Upon reconnecting to SS the audio will stop.  On SN, the
audio is allowed to continue after reconnect, so that you can listen
uninterrupted even if you are bounced around several SN instances.


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[slim] 6.5 - browser refresh no longer works in IE6

[jimwillsher]

Hi, I've upgraded to 6.5 today (Ubuntu, via compiled tarball).

When I'm playing a playlist, the browser no long refreshes every 30
seconds (30 is my value in Server Settings > Interface). As such it
stays on an old song.

I've tried in IE6 and in Firefox. It works in Firefox but not IE6 (but
used to work in IE6 on 6.3).

FireFox messes up too many things for me, so I'd rather not be forced
into using FireFox just because of a Slim upgrade?


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Re: [slim] Re: Curious-- SB3 wouldn't turn OFF

[kdf]

Quoting dgpretzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



How does the buffering actually work?


SB3 Buffer is, from the wiki,  
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?HardwareComparison:


25Mb (approx. 200 seconds at 128Kbps) compresessed
, plus 28Mb (10 seconds at 44.1 samples/sec) uncompressed

In order to play music with a fast response, an initial threshold  
triggers the start of playback.  The bandwidth of a typical network is  
a lot more than the playback rate, so you can continue to fill the  
buffer during playback.  In cases of compressed audio in formats  
native to to the hardware, the data can be sent whie still compressed  
and thus filling at an even greater rate than the playback.


As such, on a solid network where the buffer is not being reduced  
periodically from lag, you end up with up to 200 seconds of compressed  
audio stored on the hardware.  Even after SN or slimserver is gone,  
the hardware continues playing since that was the last instruction  
given before the server went away.


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[slim] Re: Curious-- SB3 wouldn't turn OFF

[dgpretzel]

How does the buffering actually work?  I mean usually it takes only a
few seconds for buffering to be completed.  Then the music starts. 
Presumably, on average, the data rate in equals the data rate out. 
Thus, the amount of data buffered should be whatever was accumulated
during the initial buffering process, which is several seconds' worth.

How then can the buffer supply data for more than a minute after the
incoming data stream terminates?

Curious,

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[slim] Re: Wish List for SlimDevices

[ModelCitizen]

gian;138582 Wrote: 
> I would never trash my dashboard with such cheap plastic... you know, SD
> has spoiled us SB3 lovers with such a smart design...
You never had an SB1 or 2 then?
:-)
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[slim] Re: anyone know anything about this?

[ModelCitizen]

Quite a nice example of an eBay scam. He had about 16 Squeezebox3's and
Ready Nas for sale with all auctions ending at very similar times.
Despite the bad press eBay receive in the Uk I am heartened to see that
they have removed the dodgy listing already.
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[slim] Re: anyone know anything about this?

[gandt]

no graphics  - sorry - but here is some of the wording - a scam
involving Infrant plus Readynas for £180...


" Slim Devices Squeezebox and Infrant ReadyNAS NV Bundle  
Current bid:  £180.00 (0 bids)  
Postage:  £40.00  
End date:  22-Sep-06 19:55:46 BST  
Add to watch list | See similar items 
Find out more


Details for item number: 220030489219 
Item URL: 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220030489219&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:UK:11

Description:  Technical Details Access your music library even when
your computer is turned off 1 Terabyte Network Attached Storage Device
with RAID 5 protec... See more  
Post to:  Worldwide  
Seller:  elinkeen( 13)  
93.3% Positive Feedback
Member since 24-Nov-04 in France"


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[slim] 6.5: I'm getting raw HTML code in the default skin

[boybees]

Browser: Firefox
OS: Windoze XP

Whenever the browser window refreshes itself, it throws some garbage
HTML characters onto the page. When I force it to refresh manually, it
cleans up this problem.

Any idea why it's doing this?


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[slim] Re: Wish List for SlimDevices

[gian]

eq72521,

thanks for your link BUT, this cannot read flac files.

Beside that, I would never trash my dashboard with such cheap
plastic... you know, SD has spoiled us SB3 lovers with such a smart
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[slim] Duplicate Albums

[Johnathan Hershbaum]

Hi WSLam
I did a uninstall and a new installation.

All the albums with 2 directories show up as duplicates in the browse
by albums

 For example

 Ultimate Collection by Kinks
 Ultimate Collection by Kinks

 but the directory structure on the server is

  Kinks - Ultimate Collection (Kinks)

  with

  Disc 1
  Disc 2

  The previous version did not seem to have this problem for me.

  The new version is really much faster


  Thanks for the reply


Did you try to mess with Compilations settings under Server Settings\Behavior?
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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[funkstar]

jeffluckett;138485 Wrote: 
> 5: Enhance the scanning process.  There are lots of apps out there that
> monitor drive folders for changes without the intensive scanning
> process used by Slim (except for initial scan of course...).  It'd be
> much nicer if SS would add music and playlists to my library on the fly
> as they're added to the directory.
Pretty sure there would be cross platform issues with this, but there
may be ways round that.

jeffluckett;138485 Wrote: 
> 6: Improve the scan process.  Does it really need to take as long as it
> does??  MusicMagic scans my whole library in 1/4 the time SlimServer
> does ...  seems there's room for improvement there.  Probably relates
> to item #3 on some level.
One of the SlimDevices guys (i think it was Dean) stated in the past
that right now they haven't done a huge amount of optimisation on the
SQL queries for scanning. As they were moving to MySQL in 6.5 i think
they just wanted it to work reliably before they spend time on
optimising and tweaking. I would expect to see a speed improvement in
future versions as the Devs get more used to what MySQL can really do
for them :)


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[slim] Re: Umm, where's Pandora?

[andyg]

Pandora is the 4th menu item on SqueezeNetwork.


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[slim] Re: anyone know anything about this?

[seanadams]

I missed it. Can someone explain?


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[slim] Re: Please post your /etc/init.d/slimserver please (Ubuntu)

[blazerte]

If you're running Debian testing or unstable, there's the Debian
Slimserver package which is at 6.3.0.

"apt-get install slimserver" did it for me.

I expect 6.5.0 will be hitting unstable soon.


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Re: [slim] Re: Fishbone/Firefox memory leak fixed?

[kdf]

Quoting funkstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



I've not been keeping track of the skin changes in 6.5 and haven't been
at home to upgrade my Qnap yet. Has Fishbone inherited any clever XML
and javaScript code?


yes.  the 'now playing' section is background updated where possible.   
It should also stay alive over server restarts (but not  
hibernate/standby unfortunately).  The current song item is also  
tracked via ajax, so hopefully the playlist only needs to reload when  
there is a change of player or playlist content.


I don'd plan to expand beyond this at the moment, mainly because I  
find ajax to be painful.  silent failure is a stupid concept.  Taht  
being said, I do have a dream of getting rid of the need for 4 frames  
in the skin and if I can an option that IE won't completely screw up,  
then I might go further.  Sadly, too many people feel the need to keep  
quoting me the IE market share for me to just dump it (despite NEVER  
using it myself).  There was a iframe solution I really liked that  
just vaourised becuase IE seemed to have not one inkling of what was  
going on with it.



one thing I'd love (patches gratefully appreciated) would be a  
mouseover div instead of the browse pulldown.  Ideally it would be  
filled with the contents of home.html so that I no longer have to keep  
hacking that logic to make a form work every time something changes.

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[slim] Re: Squeezebox wav frequency limitations

[blazerte]

Yeah, that bug was for the V1 firmware which is probably no longer being
supported.

It's cool what they can do by uploading new software to the V2 and
above Squeezebox. I have a V2 elsewhere and will test this out once
Debian upgrades to 6.5

And as long as I know what's an acceptable wav and what's not, I can
fix the problems with the V1 by adjusting the file format when
necessary.

And one of these days I'll probably ditch the V1 squeeze.   

Thanks,
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[slim] Re: iTunes 7

[mickephoto]

After further testing I found that my "old" embedded artwork does show
up, but none of the new iTunes 7 downloaded artwork. It would certainly
be nice to fix this "bug". I hope it is possible...


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[slim] Re: anyone know anything about this?

[funkstar]

The listing is now gone.


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[slim] Re: Did you see this on ebay???

[funkstar]

> This listing (220030490098) has been removed or is no longer available.
> Please make sure you entered the right item number.
i smell a scam


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[slim] Slimserver not playing certain Apple Lossless files

[MikeSB]

I have recently upgraded to 6.5 on OS X 10.4.7  I am unable to play
certain Apple Lossless files in my library.  I select them and the
track appears on the squeezebox display saying that it is playing.
However, the elapsed time counter does not advance and there is no
sound.  Tracks encoded in compressed AAC or MP3 play fine.  At first I
thought it affected all my Apple Lossless files but strangely there are
certain files which play fine.

I have tried restarting slimserver, rescanning the library,
reinstalling slimserver to no avail.

The only things that have changed on my system apart from upgrading to
6.5 is an upgrade to itunes 7.  I use itunes to manage my library. The
lossless files that won't play on the squeezebox play fine through
itunes.

Any help would be appreciated.

MIke


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[slim] Re: Duplicate Albums

[WSLam]

Did you try to mess with Compilations settings under Server
Settings\Behavior?


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Re: [slim] Curious-- SB3 wouldn't turn OFF

[kdf]

Quoting dgpretzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Could it be that it was just playing from its local cache, even after
the server disappeared?

Depending on the format of the music being played, it could keep going  
for quite a while on just what is buffered in the player itself.  The  
SB2/3 were given a big boost in ram to avoid any network lag causing  
dropouts (as would happen in some cases with the SB1 models)


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[slim] Curious-- SB3 wouldn't turn OFF

[dgpretzel]

Last night I downloaded and installed 6.5 on a new Windows XP Pro
machine.  I got rid of the former SS machine several weeks ago
(recently, I have been mostly using my SB3 with SN).  Anyway, it
installed fine.

I configured the SB3 for wireless, and it worked fine, too (firmware
upgraded automatically).

I then started playing an internet radio station (WDAV in Charlotte,
NC) and listened for a while.

Later, I shutdown the server and powered down the computer.

The SB continued to play.  I expected the SB to stop when I powered
down the server.

I fiddled around with the remote, and observed that the display was
back at the initial screen.  Pressing POWER OFF on the remote did
nothing  (I guess that would make sense since the server was off by
that time).  Then, I noticed that the SB screen was totally black, but
the music continued playing.  I let it play for a little while, then
finally pulled the plug.

I wonder why it continued to play in the absence of either a local SS
or remote SN connection?

Could it be that it was just playing from its local cache, even after
the server disappeared?

DG


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[slim] Duplicate Albums

[Johnathan Hershbaum]

Hi All
With the latest build I seem to get duplicate album names when the
album has 2 disks or more.
Does anyone know how  to solve this problem.

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[slim] Umm, where's Pandora?

[MikeWynneDub]

Hi,

I might be missing something dead obvious, but after upgrading to SS
6.5 (totally painlessly btw) Pandora does not appear in SqueezeNetwork
or on my SqueezeBox.

Any Ideas?

(Big kudos to the SlimServer developer community!)


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Re: [slim] Existing Mysql Server - DBI version problem?

[Steve Bernard, Jr]

On 9/22/06, Johnny Stork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I thought it best to start a new thread now. I upgraded Mysql to 5.0.24a 
standard...so far so good. But trying to start ss I still get these errors?? Is 
this just a DBI.pm issue/upgrade?


I'm seeing these same errors.  I just deleted server/CPAN/DBI.pm and
it started just fine.  Actually, my YAML::Syck is the wrong version,
too, so I have had to delete server/CPAN/YAML/Syck.pm whenever I
upgrade, too.

As long as you have the CPAN packages installed for yourself, it
should work right without the Slim-provided ones.

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[slim] WMA Lossless users

[WSLam]

I have been trying to diagnose a few WMA related problems and I am
wondering if this may be machine/installation related or is this a
general issue with SlimServer/SB3 playing WMA Lossless.

Here are the issues:

1) end of songs gets cut off. this is usually difficult to detect
except with some classical recordings where they breakup a piece into
multiple tracks. I am not talking about gapless playback, I am talking
about a small piece at the end actually got chopped off. 

2) an ocassional burst of pink noise while playing

3) music just stops. SB3 spectrum analyzer has no activity. no more
music. hit play again and the piece will played from the beginning...
but it stops. This usually happens only after more then 30 mins of
playing.

Why I think these are WMA related? Because if I convert them to FLAC,
then none of these issues exists anymore. Everything becomes ok. 

Please help fellow WMA Lossless users...

ws


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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[jeffluckett]

> 
> What, exactly, do you mean?
> Transparent upgrades are a serious challenge for all software, not just
> SlimServer. The more you expect it to remember, the harder it gets. At
> some point, it becomes impractical.
> 
> Seems to me that a reasonable list of things for the SlimServer to
> remember across upgrades (IMHO) are
> 1) remember your library directory
> 2) remember your player names
> 3) remember choses skin
> 
> I personally don't care about plugins, some others may care more. At
> some point, it may be too hard.
> 

I mean to upgrade without leaving stuff behind that causes it to crash.
There are currently no shortage of active threads talking about how the
6.3 plugins, and the default2 skin that get left in place during upgrade
are causing issues.  By and large, when I upgrade software it works, and
is not hampered by the fact that an earlier version had been installed.

> 
> Its the server for a SlimDevice, the SqueezeBox.
> I don't see any reason to worry about it, an old obsolte PC runs it
> perfectly. Mine has been up
> 13:30:13 up 460 days, 41 min, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.13, 0.09
> 

I run it on a dedicated box with an 800mhz processor, win2k3 and 512MB
RAM.  When the scanner is running, navigating the web interface is
painful, and my SB's interface gets laggy.  I'm not at home right now,
so I can't quote any numbers, but I do remember being rather astonished
at the size of the memory footprint of both the scanner and slim.exe
itself.

They also want this to run on NAS devices, which are pretty limited on
proc. and memory resources...

> 
> I probably have to add AJAX on the interface to what I do for a living,
> and I am terrified. Doing it properly for lots of OS and browser
> combinations looks extremely hard. Just testing all the combinations is
> going to take many weeks if not many months.
> 
> AJAX is cool, but the tools to support it professionally are seriously
> lacking. IMHO, YMMV, etc.
> 

No, it's not that hard.  I'm a programmer as well (8 years in the biz),
and have been doing AJAX for about a year or so.  Compatibility is not
an issue, there's just MS vs. EVERYONE ELSE on exactly how you call up
the XMLHttpRequest object, but it's pretty easy to pick the right way
via object detection ... or just use one of the many and useful AJAX
libraries out there.  I think I remember seeing that Fishbone uses
Prototype.js ... but I could be mistaken.

As for debugging tools, pretty much using the FireBug extension in
Firefox is all I've ever needed, and then standard debugging techniques
from there.  It's not as hard as you think, but you have to stop
thinking the way you used to in regards to how web-apps are supposed to
work.

Now, you're going to say, "if your such a fantabluous programmer why
don't you contribute to the project."  

Fair jab.  I have two reasons:
1. I typically do a 50 hour week at the office.  I also have a wife and
child ... and I do a little freelance work too.  By the time I finish
programming for money, I just want to Listen to my SB, talk to my wife
and play with my baby.  As much as I'd like to contribute, I frankly
don't have the time.

2. Perl. I hate it.  Makes my head hurt.


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[slim] Existing Mysql Server - DBI version problem?

[Johnny Stork]

I thought it best to start a new thread now. I upgraded Mysql to 5.0.24a 
standard...so far so good. But trying to start ss I still get these errors?? Is 
this just a DBI.pm issue/upgrade?

2006-09-22 11:13:14.2100 ERROR: DBI Connection failed: DBI 
connect('hostname=127.0.0.1;port=3306;database=Slimserver:mysql_socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock','stork',...)
 failed: Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; 
consider upgrading MySQL client at 
/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 652

2006-09-22 11:13:14.2103 ERROR: Backtrace follows:

2006-09-22 11:13:14.2105 Backtrace:

   frame 0: Slim::Schema::Storage::throw_exception 
(/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 658)
   frame 1: DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_connect 
(/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 616)
   frame 2: DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_populate_dbh 
(/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 543)
   frame 3: DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::ensure_connected 
(/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 557)
   frame 4: DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::dbh 
(/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Schema.pm line 118)
   frame 5: Slim::Schema::init (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Music/Info.pm line 
71)
   frame 6: Slim::Music::Info::init (/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl line 
364)
   frame 7: main::init (/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl line 438)
   frame 8: main::main (/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl line 1039)

Carp::Clan::__ANON__(): DBI Connection failed: DBI 
connect('hostname=127.0.0.1;port=3306;database=Slimserver:mysql_socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock','stork',...)
 failed: Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; 
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[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update

[matharu]

Further to my post on 17/09/06, I can report that I still can't access
the SlimServer.

Windows Networking access to the TS-101 is problematic. Sometimes it
works, sometimes it doesn't work.

I'm still getting an inordinate amount of time of the HDD light being
on.

I wish I could just reformat the unit and start from scratch but would
that destroy any possibility of the SlimServer working again?

I tried to install a SlimServer update but noticed that the "Update"
directory in "public" didn't exist anymore so created a new "Update"
directory and put the SlimServer update there. Nothing much happened.

So at the moment SlimServer is totally non-functional and I'm getting
erratic behaviour from the TS-101 such that I cannot even use it as a
basic NAS device.

HELP!


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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[Nostromo]

geraint smith;138496 Wrote: 
> All true except for the "can't enjoy" bit. What about ALAC and AIFF?
> They work a treat gaplessly. I've just been listening to a gapless AIFF
> Solti Tannhauser on SS6.5 via SB2. Bliss over wireless. And WAV, for
> that matter. I don't myself know whether that works, because, being an
> Apple pip, I don't use it much, but doesn't it? And FWD and REV work
> with AIFF (certainly - just been playing with it) and ALAC, (I think)
> too. As for this "replaygain" of which you speak, I confess I know
> little of it. If, however, it's the same as smart pre-set volume
> adjustment for individual tracks or albums then it definitely works for
> AIFF and ALAC because, having finally got 6.5 working  - very nice
> congratulations to the team and all - after some wireless tribulations,
> it took me a while to work out why it was being so nannyish about
> letting me play it loud. Some pesky default setting, it seems, but it
> shows it works.
> 
> Come back, O, Nostromo, Come back! Harken to the siren song of iTunes!
> 
> (Fixes him with hypnotic gaze. Fails dismally. Loads super boy
> scout-type cardboard catapult instead, but hits passing policeman. Oh,
> well. One can but try.)

:lol:

ALAC supports gapless playback? Are you sure? I'm pretty certain it
doesn't support FWD and REV, though. 

As for AIFF, I really don't see the point in using it. If its anything
like WAV, there's no difference, soundwise, with ALAC or FLAC, AIFF
tracks take a lot more of space and its a poor choice for tagging
purposes.

On ReplayGain

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RGFoobar

But its not recommended for music with high dynamic range, like
classical.


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[slim] Re: How long can a phono cable be before sound quality is seriously effected?

[aubuti]

@TiredLegs (or anyone else who knows): I have a question re the cat5 to
connect baluns. At present the two rooms I am thinking of connecting
have RJ-45 wall jacks that lead to the same ethernet switch in the
basement. Would I be okay if I just disconnected the two relevant
cables from the switch, and then connected them directly using a simple
coupler (ie, a female-female RJ-45 jack)? So the path would look
something like this:

SB (or amp line out) -> balun -> short Cat5 patch cord -> wall jack ->
Cat5 in wall -> RJ-45 coupler -> Cat5 in wall -> wall jack -> patch
cord -> balun -> amp line-in

It's not that complicated, but I count 6 RJ-45 plugs and 4 jacks
(including the coupler but not the baluns), and wonder if that will
cause any problem with sound quality. It's all fairly new Cat5e cable
and connectors, and the total run is well under 30m. Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[Pat Farrell]

jeffluckett wrote:

1: A clean install process for upgraders. Quite a mess for those who
are migrating from 6.3.x and lower to 6.5.


What, exactly, do you mean?
Transparent upgrades are a serious challenge for all software, not just 
SlimServer. The more you expect it to remember, the harder it gets. At 
some point, it becomes impractical.


Seems to me that a reasonable list of things for the SlimServer to 
remember across upgrades (IMHO) are

1) remember your library directory
2) remember your player names
3) remember choses skin

I personally don't care about plugins, some others may care more. At 
some point, it may be too hard.



4: Reduced resources footprint.  It's beginning to look pretty fat for
something called "Slim"Server.


Its the server for a SlimDevice, the SqueezeBox.
I don't see any reason to worry about it, an old obsolte PC runs it 
perfectly. Mine has been up

 13:30:13 up 460 days, 41 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.07, 0.13, 0.09

7: Begin more thoroughly embracing AJAX on the web interface ... 


I probably have to add AJAX on the interface to what I do for a living, 
and I am terrified. Doing it properly for lots of OS and browser 
combinations looks extremely hard. Just testing all the combinations is 
going to take many weeks if not many months.


AJAX is cool, but the tools to support it professionally are seriously 
lacking. IMHO, YMMV, etc.


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Re: [slim] Re: Another Try---Using an Existing Mysql Server

[Jeff Coffler]

hickinbottoms wrote:

Funny you should say that, but I wrote one last night:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?ExistingMySQLInstance

Useful thing, that wiki.

Stuart
  


Great page.

I just updated it this morning for Fedora.  Ended up just being 
clarification, since no changes are needed for Fedora with regards to 
slimserver vs. mysql startup ordering.


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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[geraint smith]

Nostromo;138456 Wrote: 
> Its an intuitive, convenient and easy to use all-in-one package allowing
> you rip your music, tag it and organize it, create playlists and, most
> importantly, smart playlists. Smart playlists are great. Its not the
> absolutely perfect way to do all of these things, but it gets the job
> done. Its also great for people who don't know beans about computers or
> who don't want the hassle of finding the apps, then configuring them.
> 
> Unfortunately, iTunes doesn't support FLAC. Which means that iTunes
> users can't enjoy :
> 
> - Gapless playback on they're Squeezebox (the Squeezebox doesn't have a
> workaround yet for the limitations of MP3 and AAC)
> 
> - Replaygain
> 
> - Can't use RWD or FFW, unless using MP3's.
> 
> I'm not using iTunes anymore. The feature I'll miss the most is
> definitively smartplaylists. Fortunately, Erland wrote SQLplaylist
> plugin. He did a great job, but he'll be the first to admit that its
> not as intuitive and easy to use as the Apple smart playlists.

All true except for the "can't enjoy" bit. What about ALAC and AIFF?
They work a treat gaplessly. I've just been listening to a gapless AIFF
Solti Tannhauser on SS6.5 via SB2. Bliss over wireless. And WAV, for
that matter. I don't myself know whether that works, because, being an
Apple pip, I don't use it much, but doesn't it? And FWD and REV work
with AIFF (certainly - just been playing with it) and ALAC, (I think)
too. As for this "replaygain" of which you speak, I confess I know
little of it. If, however, it's the same as smart pre-set volume
adjustment for individual tracks or albums then it definitely works for
AIFF and ALAC because, having finally got 6.5 working  - very nice
congratulations to the team and all - after some wireless tribulations,
it took me a while to work out why it was being so nannyish about
letting me play it loud. Some pesky default setting, it seems, but it
shows it works.

Come back, O, Nostromo, Come back! Harken to the siren song of iTunes!

(Fixes him with hypnotic gaze. Fails dismally. Loads super boy
scout-type cardboard catapult instead, but hits passing policeman. Oh,
well. One can but try.)


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RE: [slim] Re: Another Try---Using an Existing Mysql Server - MySql Version

[Johnny Stork]

Excellent...I think I am almost there...and thanks to everyone that responded. 
Now I am currently running MySql 4.1.10 and don’t really want to upgrade yet as 
this is a large db with many other services using it and I need to test all 
sorts of other applications before upgrading, so is there a way to resolve this 
issue..below is the /tmp/slimserver.log entry after pointing to the existing db 
and trying to restart ss.

Carp::Clan::__ANON__(): DBI Connection failed: DBI 
connect('hostname=127.0.0.1;port=3306;database=Slimserver:mysql_socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock','stork',...)
 failed: Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; 
consider upgrading MySQL client at 
/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 652

 

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:07 AM
> To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
> Subject: [slim] Re: Another Try---Using an Existing Mysql Server
> 
> 
> Johnny Stork;138430 Wrote: 
> > Ok, my last post didn’t generate any replies so maybe a different 
> > subject. This cant be a unique situation, but I would like 
> to use my 
> > existing mysql server which just happens to run on the same 
> server as 
> > slimserver. Are there any howto's on how to move to a 
> single, existing 
> > mysql server. This should be simple, export, import and 
> change some db 
> > id/password/port/host settings somewhere.
> > 
> > Thanks for anyone that can help
> > 
> > __
> > Johnny Stork
> 
> Funny you should say that, but I wrote one last night:
> 
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?ExistingMySQLInstance
> 
> Useful thing, that wiki.
> 
> Stuart
> 
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Re: [slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[Ben Sandee]

On 9/22/06, jeffluckett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
4: Reduced resources footprint.  It's beginning to look pretty fat forsomething called "Slim"Server.
I think you're misunderstanding the name -- it's not the server that is intended to be slim.  It's the devices that are slim (as in, slim clients driven by a more powerful server)...Ben 

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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[WSLam]

bklaas;138467 Wrote: 
> FWIW, I put loads of Ajax in Nokia770 and Touch skins, both available in
> 6.5. ExBrowse3 and Fishbone also have AJAX components in their
> interfaces.
> 
> Check out the 'Now Playing' page on Touch while listening to music and
> try out some of the controls. Playlist page is also AJAXed, as is the
> '1-by-1 artwork' page, which is unique to Nokia770 and Touch.
> 
> Constructive criticism welcome.
> 
> #!/ben

Thanks! I will check them out!


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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[jeffluckett]

Things I'd like to see:

1: A clean install process for upgraders. Quite a mess for those who
are migrating from 6.3.x and lower to 6.5.

2: Stability, stability, stability.

3: Optimize the SQL currently in use.  It seems there's lots of
inefficient queries ... the web and SB interfaces and could be so much
more responsive with some good SQL optimization.

4: Reduced resources footprint.  It's beginning to look pretty fat for
something called "Slim"Server.

5: Enhance the scanning process.  There are lots of apps out there that
monitor drive folders for changes without the intensive scanning process
used by Slim (except for initial scan of course...).  It'd be much nicer
if SS would add music and playlists to my library on the fly as their
added to the directory.

6: Improve the scan process.  Does it really need to take as long as it
does??  MusicMagic scans my whole library in 1/4 the time SlimServer
does ...  seems there's room for improvement there.  Probably relates
to item #3 on some level.

7: Begin more thoroughly embracing AJAX on the web interface ... it's
really getting dated with the old
click/reload-the-whole-page-for-changes paradigm.  ...especially with
how long page loads can take sometimes.

Overall, I'd say that the server software has all the features 90% of
users could want.  It'd be good to focus on making those features as
good as they can be before hanging on a bunch more fluff.


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[slim] Re: What happened to Artist on display?

[Flamingo]

Didn't have any plug-ins! Just rescanned, then reinstalled, still not
working.

All tags are properly populated when I click on the track detail.

Softsqueeze also has same symptoms.

I'm using lossless WMA files.


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[slim] Re: What happened to Artist on display?

[ceejay]

Well, it works ok for me! I created a new title string that included
Artist, selected it for both web display and a player, and it came up
fine on both. The standard  ones also work ok for me.

So what's different about yours?

Artist names are coming up correctly elsewhere?

One thing you might try - disabling all your plugins and restarting
slimserver, just in case something is misbehaving.

Ceejay


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[slim] Re: Wish List for SlimDevices

[eq72521]

gian;138385 Wrote: 
> Phatbox: I don't want to add anything any wiring or extra hw in the
> trunk, just want to be able to pop in a card/usb disk with my music.

Although I didn't purchase one, I recall that when I was looking for a
cheap head unit last summer some of the generic brand models at Best
Buy had something like this.  Here's one:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7689129&type=product&productCategoryId=cat03066&id=1141762608953


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[slim] Re: Wish List for SlimDevices

[florca]

What you need is the late, lamented empeg, who built most of what you
want seven years ago, were bought out by Rio and all but died under the
weight of terrible marketing and lack of focus from the parent company
(the core of the original UK company is now part of Sigma Designs). You
can still sometimes pick up empeg car players on eBay and there's still
an active development community. 

As well as the empeg car player they also built the Rio Receiver (aka
Dell Audio Receiver) - arguably the first generation Squeezebox - and
Rio Karma portable which is still the best all-round portable music
player in many respects.


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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[bklaas]

WSLam;138464 Wrote: 
> A slick AJAX UI

FWIW, I put loads of Ajax in Nokia770 and Touch skins, both available
in 6.5. ExBrowse3 and Fishbone also have AJAX components in their
interfaces.

Check out the 'Now Playing' page on Touch while listening to music and
try out some of the controls. Playlist page is also AJAXed, as is the
'1-by-1 artwork' page, which is unique to Nokia770 and Touch.

Constructive criticism welcome.

#!/ben


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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[WSLam]

A slick AJAX UI


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[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7

[thespaugh]

If possible, I'd love for them to come up with a solution for Bug 259:
Synchronization should use fine-grained network clock. I hate the drift
between my 3 SBs during gapless music playback!


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[slim] Re: Please post your /etc/init.d/slimserver please (Ubuntu)

[jimwillsher]

Yeah true. But your posting says it all:

> that's probably the reason that the .deb was part of the
> beta

At the time I hadn't realised that :-)

Agreed, your method will be easier. But now that I've hit the pitfalls
with 6.5, 6.5.1 should only be a 5 minute job.

Cheers,



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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes

[Nostromo]

Its an intuitive, convenient and easy to use all-in-one package allowing
you rip your music, tag it and organize it, create playlists and, most
importantly, smart playlists. Smart playlists are great. Its not the
absolutely perfect way to do all of these things, but it gets the job
done. Its also great for people who don't know beans about computers or
who don't want the hassle of finding the apps, then configuring them.

Unfortunately, iTunes doesn't support FLAC. Which means that iTunes
users can't enjoy :

- Gapless playback on they're Squeezebox (the Squeezebox doesn't have a
workaround yet for the limitations of MP3 and AAC)

- Replaygain

- Can't use RWD or FFW, unless using MP3's.

I'm not using iTunes anymore. The feature I'll miss the most is
definitively smartplaylists. Fortunately, Erland wrote SQLplaylist
plugin. He did a great job, but he'll be the first to admit that its
not as intuitive and easy to use as the Apple smart playlists.


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