Re: [slim] Logitech
SBC end-of-life has been public knowledge for ages, and the price has dropped accordingly. Contrary to how some might think manufacturing works, if the replacement product is late, you can't instantly crank out more of the previous one. Besides the manufacturer's problems, some of their suppliers would flat-out refuse to ramp back up for a limited run of obsolete components. (I'm speaking of hardware production in general here). The other possibility is the clean cut-over. If you can even orchestrate it, this upsets customers far more, because you have loads of people who are disappointed at having just bought the previous product. So you drop the prices, then you have a little down-time, and then you ship the next thing. I'll give you that Ante-Logi, the down time would have been very short because otherwise we'd have promptly gone bankrupt. Look on the bright side - at least they're using the time to improve the next product. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76286 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideas for improving the sync-experience
andynormancx;518218 Wrote: I'd agree, that would be easy if that was how it worked... But that isn't how it works. To get to this state all I did was create the three sync sets. Taking the Upstairs set as an example, the dropdown lists are as follows: Kitchen - Unsyncronized or master, Office, Radio Office - Unsyncronized or master, Kitchen, Radio Internet Radio - Unsyncronized or master, Kitchen, Office I honestly don't know what I am supposed to set to get the various players into the right sync sets. I expect I can work it out by experimentation, but it is far from obvious (to me) without said experimentation. At long last I've improved the interface a bit. Ok, not much. Now The Synchronizer has the option of creating a new sync set, using the current configuration of players in the system. Set-up the players the way you want them synchronized, and go create a new set with the button checked, and voila, you've saved that configuration. You can edit it later, should you so desire. In version 0.10 at http://www.koldware.com/SlimStuff/Synchronizer-0.10.zip Give it a spin, let me know if it works for you. If you still don't like the interface, feel free to suggest a new one. I'm willing to listen. Eric -- kolding See my plugins at http://www.koldware.com/SlimStuff The Synchronizer, GrabPlaylist, ResetVolume, and RemovePlayedSongs -- SqueezeBox 2 - Rotel RSX-1056 - Totem Acoustic Dreamcatchers SqueezeBox 3 - Rotel RX-1052 - Vandersteen 1B's SqueezeBox 1 - AudioEngine A2's SqueezeBox Boom x 2 SliMP3 - Retired kolding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideas for improving the sync-experience
andynormancx;518272 Wrote: You can do that with the Other Players plugin, works very well. Just go to the new player, select the player you want to move the playlist from. Also, the GrabPlaylist plugin does a similar thing. http://www.koldware.com/SlimStuff/GrabPlaylist.zip Eric -- kolding See my plugins at http://www.koldware.com/SlimStuff The Synchronizer, GrabPlaylist, ResetVolume, and RemovePlayedSongs -- SqueezeBox 2 - Rotel RSX-1056 - Totem Acoustic Dreamcatchers SqueezeBox 3 - Rotel RX-1052 - Vandersteen 1B's SqueezeBox 1 - AudioEngine A2's SqueezeBox Boom x 2 SliMP3 - Retired kolding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
fphredd;525663 Wrote: Any other solutions/suggestions/'way out there' ideas? This thing is too good not to be able to use. No not really. It may be a 7.5 issue. I don't know if they changed the remote access method already. Remote access is not possible anymore when they move to SQlite but if i'm correctly this is not yet implemented in v7.5. When 7.5 is released I'll make sure ACC is compatible (if the move to SQLite has not yet been made). Frank -- SilverRS8 Author of -'AlbumCatalogCreator' (http://acc.vanholt.nl)- for SqueezeCenter '_' (http://www.badkamerpech.nl) SlimServer. 2xSB3, 1xDuet, 1xRadio, 1xiPhone iPeng, Ubuntu NAS + SBS SilverRS8's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cheap(ish) UK Squeezebox Classic at PC world
Richer Sounds (another UK store) is showing Squeezebox Receivers for sale for £79.99, a fantastic price. If you don't have the controller to configure it, there is a 3rd-party developed program that allows you to configure it from your PC. Once configured, it'll function the same as an SB3. I'm definitely considering grabbing one or two. -- kitecarl kitecarl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3017 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cheap(ish) UK Squeezebox Classic at PC world
Forgot to post the URL: http://www.richersounds.com/product/wireless-streaming/logitech/squeezebox-receiver/logi-sque-duet-rec -- kitecarl kitecarl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3017 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Adding All Stations To Home Screen?
why not just add your favorite 100 or so stations to your FAVORITES list. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76283 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Adding All Stations To Home Screen?
In the interest of placating a technophobic user I would have thought showing a list of 10k stations would intimidate and not placate such a user. All you need to do create a text file with list of station names and their associated URLs and then use a text editor to change it into an OPML file by a couple of cut paste and replace strings. Then make the OPML a favorite. If the OPML file is on a web server it can be used via MySB.com However your main difficulty is getting the list of stations as collating and maintaining station lists are usually done by commercial organisations (e.g. reciva, shoutcast, rokuradio, mikesradioworld, radiotime etc.) and do not make it easy to dump a complete list of stations. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76283 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
I'll try putting 7.4 on that machine and see if it works; will report back. thx -- fphredd fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Adding All Stations To Home Screen?
Seems rather silly to me. Why would I want to sift through many thousands of of unrelated stations to find the few that are of interest to me? Four *clicks* from the Home Menu and I'm presented with a list of related stations. I'll take four *clicks* over thousands of *clicks* sorting through the mess. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76283 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cheap(ish) UK Squeezebox Classic at PC world
kitecarl;525767 Wrote: Richer Sounds (another UK store) is showing Squeezebox Receivers for sale for £79.99, a fantastic price. If you don't have the controller to configure it, there is a 3rd-party developed program that allows you to configure it from your PC. Once configured, it'll function the same as an SB3. I'm definitely considering grabbing one or two. think i remeber seeing someone saying they placed an order but have been waiting months for them to get stock. -- trouty00 trouty00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30875 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cheap(ish) UK Squeezebox Classic at PC world
the pcworld ones are only instore, not online. They're just getting rid of stock i guess. I contacted Richer sounds for the reciever a while ago but they are store specific too and there aren't many left. Ended up getting a Duet from CEX for £140 which was basically new when it arrives and has the 12 months waranty. Worth checking their website occasionally as if seen quite a few squeezebox bits on there (duet controller on there for £95 at the moment) -- colincliff colincliff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36572 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Adding All Stations To Home Screen?
toby10;525790 Wrote: Seems rather silly to me. Why would I want to sift through many thousands of of unrelated stations to find the few that are of interest to me? Four *clicks* from the Home Menu and I'm presented with a list of related stations. I'll take four *clicks* over thousands of *clicks* sorting through the mess. Seems silly to me too - but not to the user. The idea seems tb to support the short wave radio image: somebody sits down with the thing and just tunes different stations, sort of exploring the air waves. There's a dial: just twiddle it and see different stations. Why can't they drill down a few - or a half-dozen - levels like everybody else? Not my problem or my business to ask - at least more than once...-). -- PeteCress -- PeteCresswell PeteCress's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76283 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Transporter Freezes and Hangs
I am quite new here. Recently I bought SB Transporter for good price. I used it for 2 days. Then suddenly device stoped to play music. It has no problem with connection (wireless, ethernet). Main problem is that it shows the name of the song which I choose but it has no sound. Also VU Meter and time of the song does move at all. Please help. I did update of firmware and factory reset and it did not help. Thanks. -- oskare oskare's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37010 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Playlist URL with credentials
I am unable to get either my Squeezebox Radio or Squeezebox 3 to play a URL in the format: http://username:passw...@www.site.com (Had to display this on multiple lines because the forum thinks I'm trying to post a URL!) This is a perfectly legal URL, but it seems the Squeezebox is unable to perform Basic Authentication. Any suggestions on how to proceed? I have subscribed to Calm Radio, and I must provide credentials in order to start the stream. Thanks. -- csmig csmig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76294 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Freezes and Hangs
oskare;525823 Wrote: I am quite new here. Recently I bought SB Transporter for good price. I used it for 2 days. Then suddenly device stoped to play music. It has no problem with connection (wireless, ethernet). Main problem is that it shows the name of the song which I choose but it has no sound. Also VU Meter and time of the song does move at all. Please help. I did update of firmware and factory reset and it did not help. Thanks. You should try a Xilinx reset... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech
Sean, It's really good to see your post and give a very reasonable explanation of what is an inevitable chain of events. From the time the information on the touch leaked out and pre-orders were accepted we've seen a team struggling to matching customer expectations with what is techniocally possible. Across the message board we have seen confusion and frustration, and a lot of folks really taking shots at what are absolutely amazing products often blaming the product for issues that are likely related to the environment in which it is installed - but sometimes it seems as a result of challenges in quality control and a team of really able programmers/engineers stretched a little too far in terms of mismatched timelines and quality requirements. I guess this may inevitable when a niche product becomes acquired by a mass market oriented supplier. Your presence on the boards is always a source of tremendous insight and understanding to the product, it would be good to hear from senior Logitech executives that they do understand the frustration felt by many customers around this, that they have a clear vision and plan for the product range and that they will let a very committed and loyal customer base help them in making the product line a real success in the mass market by listening (and responding) to feedback. A product based on open-source technology operated by a company that is used to a hardware based, closed technology, short lifecycle is in a tough spot - and the touch seems to be caught just there. It would be great to see Logitech develop a model where early access to major upgrades is made available to those who enjoy the technology challenge and opportunity that comes with leading edge products - this may be more than is seen with the present beta testers (or are these those who buy the products with X.1 software releases). I am glad to see Logitech holding back on the launch of Touch. Indeed it seems to me that the product reputation will stand or fall by whether this will just work - if it does it will be a great success in the consumer market place. If not -- linvale Squeezcenter running on ACER R1600 Windows XP Fileserver ReadyNAS Duo Main Listening Transporter / Controller Kitchen : SB3 Bedroom : Boom Bath : SBRadio Study: Duo linvale's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22828 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76286 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Proxy streaming - where has it gone in 7.4.2
I'm having some issues with radio streaming around the house and remember that there used to be an option somewhere that allowed me to have SqueezeSvr map all the players subscribed to the same stream on to one proxy stream. I cannot locate this option anywhere. Is it still around? Thanks. -- ovonrein ovonrein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2130 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Freezes and Hangs
Phil Leigh;525830 Wrote: You should try a Xilinx reset... * Disconnect the power * Press and hold 1 on the remote * Reconnect the power * Release the 1 button when you see Programming xilinx on the screen I tried. No help. Still the same. It says NOW PLAYNING. No countdown of song time, no vu meter moving. Other squeezebox in same networks works perfect. It is old version SB3. Any idea? -- oskare oskare's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37010 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proxy streaming - where has it gone in 7.4.2
If you sync players, proxied streaming is used automatically because sync is impossible otherwise. If you want to have a single player use proxied streaming, the setting is in Settings - Player - Audio - MP3 Streaming Method (it also applies to WMA, Ogg, and AAC, we should fix the text here to Radio Streaming Method or something. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Everything stopped working
Sometime last night, all of the sudden, all music ceased playing and my players are no longer discoverable by SqueezeCenter. When I go to the players section in the web settings, it says it can't find any. I've tried rebooting my computer, unplugging/replugging my squeezeboxes themselves, refreshing, and nothing. Both my iPeng and SqueezeBox remote say that they can't connect to any server. I was playing around with iPeng at the time that this happened, though I cannot possibly imagine how I would have caused this. last lines in the server log (taken after reboots) look like the following. Any ideas? [10-03-16 23:00:04.5323] main::init (320) Starting Squeezebox Server (v7.4.2, r30215, Mon Feb 22 10:11:12 PST 2010) perl 5.01 [10-03-16 23:01:21.1098] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (447) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [10-03-16 23:01:21.1101] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error (180) Unable to login to mysqueezebox.com, sync is disabled: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [10-03-16 23:01:21.1104] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error (190) mysqueezebox.com sync init failed: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor, will retry in 300 [10-03-17 07:46:22.0298] main::init (320) Starting Squeezebox Server (v7.4.2, r30215, Mon Feb 22 10:11:12 PST 2010) perl 5.01 [10-03-17 07:46:54.8788] Slim::Plugin::InternetRadio::Plugin::cacheIconError (331) Error caching remote icon http://www.mysqueezebox.com/static/images/icons/radiomusic.png: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor -- dundon00 dundon00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech
Unfortunately for those of us on this forum, the problem seems to be much larger than one product: SB3 obsolescence, replacement product Touch. Touch announced, pre-orders taken... SEVERAL months later, no firm date on when it will be available. Radio released, battery coming soon. After several months, pre-orders taken. Finally released, only to be IMMEDIATELY out of stock with several month back-order (could not even fulfill the pre-orders!). Receiver no longer available. Official notification that it's not been discontinued (although several statements to the contrary by sales support). Product apparently removed from Logitech web site (at least in US)... Link re-added to Logitech website, but no way to place order (at least in US). Link has since disappeared again! -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76286 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proxy streaming - where has it gone in 7.4.2
Darned. Reason I couldn't find it there is that I looked at the one SLIMP3 player that I have (yep, been loyal to Slim for a LOOONG time), and it seems that it doesn't feature that option. Found it on the SB3 and SBR. Tried synch'ing earlier - didn't work at all between the SLIMP3 and SBR. Need to do some more experiments. Will switch SB3 and SBR to proxied streaming in the meantime. Thanks ! -- ovonrein ovonrein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2130 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Everything stopped working
Did you try rebooting the router as well? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proxy streaming - where has it gone in 7.4.2
Right, slimp3 always uses proxied streaming, that's why. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proxy streaming - where has it gone in 7.4.2
Oh really? Didn't know that. Suits me. Was just thinking (as I saw my core put on +1C in temperature to facilitate the proxying) that if proxy streaming were a Server option, one could also specify LAME settings in the same breath which would save my box running 3x socketwrapper processes all doing the same thing at this very moment... -- ovonrein ovonrein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2130 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proxy streaming - where has it gone in 7.4.2
Now that the SB3 and SBR use proxied streaming, the SLIMP3 stutters when subscribed to the same stream. Any idea what that's all about? -- ovonrein ovonrein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2130 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Freezes and Hangs
You say that other Squeezeboxen on your network continue to work. What are they and what do they connect to... a local SB server or mysb.com? Do you have a network drive on which your music library is installed? There is a reason I'm asking this because my Transporter freaked out once with symptoms similiar to yours. -- ghostrider ghostrider's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18959 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
orcocan;525023 Wrote: Hi Lorimar thanks for your response, to be honest I'm not too sure what you mean? Could you be so kind to give me a dummy's guide of what you did to fix it? Thanks again Apparently he did this: http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/D-Link-Port-Forwarding-s/286.htm -- OppfinnarJocke // OppfinnarJocke SqueezeBox Duet, Controller FW 7.4.1 r7915, Player FW 65 I mainly use my Duet for internet radio via MySqueezeBox.com but also Spotify via chp's DSBridge (http://tinyurl.com/DSBridge) OppfinnarJocke's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22307 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Bitperfect playback with Squeezeplay?
I'm new to the forum, so hope this is the right place to ask. I've installed Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 on my media PC (running XP SP3) in preparation for a Squeezebox Duet that I'll be getting next week. The PC is already set up for bitperfect playback, which I check by confirming that I can play a 5.1 DTS file (in WAV wrapper) correctly through my AV receiver using Foobar 2000. I've tried both Squeezeslave 0.9-95 and Squeezeplay (from the 7.4 nightly downloads) as software players, and while Squeezeslave works fine with DTS playback as long as the volume control in the Web Interface is at Max, with Squeezeplay as the player I just get noise (volume controls in both Web Interface and Squeezeplay at Max). This would seem to indicate that the DTS file is being altered by Squeezeplay and is no longer bitperfect. Has anyone else experienced this, or have any suggestions as to what I might be doing wrong? -- manzoku manzoku's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37006 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76308 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech
The real problem for those that follow these forums, is that there is no Logitech involvement. What remains is a small, very committed bunch of ex Slim Devices employees, trying their best. but where is the steering comments of Logitech business management - the equivalent of Sean or Dean coments / actions. In this vacuum, rumours expand, change. Sales and support messages / actions are not aligned with the Logitech developers that post on these Forums. In this climate, the loyal customer base starts to question the future commitment, but even then no Logitech management comment. Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76286 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
thank you very much for your help. I haven't got a DLink so the procedure was different but I think I've done it in the end... unfortunately it doesn't seem to make any difference, rebuffering still fails :( -- orcocan orcocan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech
DaveWr;525905 Wrote: The real problem for those that follow these forums, is that there is no Logitech involvement. What remains is a small, very committed bunch of ex Slim Devices employees, trying their best. but where is the steering comments of Logitech business management - the equivalent of Sean or Dean coments / actions. In this vacuum, rumours expand, change. Sales and support messages / actions are not aligned with the Logitech developers that post on these Forums. In this climate, the loyal customer base starts to question the future commitment, but even then no Logitech management comment. Dave For what it's worth, I emphatically agree. Was just trying to shed some light on the subject although honestly I have no idea what's going on there these days. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76286 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech
DaveWr wrote: the equivalent of Sean or Dean coments / actions. In this climate, the loyal customer base starts to question the future commitment, but even then no Logitech management comment. In the real world, a large company such as Logitech will never have the connection to the users that Dean and Sean had. Its a concept that simply can't scale. I bet Dean and Sean spent many nights snorting solder flux or brainstorming about product directions, stuff that large companies simply can't do. While I am no expert analyst on Logitech's whole product line, I do own a number of their products from outside the Slim Devices world. None of those other products have anywhere near the exposed software that the SBS/SC has. None has anywhere near the active and vocal user community. I agree that there is an impedance mismatch between the users here and Logitech corporate management. But I don't expect that Logitech will change. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Doubled up playlists
Bump. -- Cockeye Cockeye's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76236 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Saving Search As Favorite: Any Hope?
For instance: Home | Internet Radio | Search | (specify WHYY) That search will return a whole list of hits - mainly the names of shows. Click on a show like Voices in the Family and it will return a list of recent episodes. Both searches would be very useful to save as favorites. Not the results, just the search - so when you choose it from the Favorites list, it performs that search and shows the results. Second best would be saving the result set. Is there any room in the architecture for saving either a search or a result set as a Favorite? -- PeteCress -- PeteCresswell PeteCress's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76312 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Updated Plug-Ins: Radio Froze, Had To Reboot
Using http://127.0.0.1:9000/settings/index.html Squeezebox Server | Plugins: - un-checked Pandora, - checked KidsPlay, - Clicked Apply Got the usual, This will take a minute... message while the service shut down/restarted. But the radio stopped working and froze: no presets worked... can't recall what other buttons were inop, but in the end I had to unplug the power cord, and plug it back in to get the radio working again. Bug or feature? -- PeteCress -- PeteCresswell PeteCress's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Updated Plug-Ins: Radio Froze, Had To Reboot
PeteCress;525951 Wrote: Bug or feature? Bug, clearly. KidsPlay would only ever change the preset behavior, and then only if you had previously installed it and configured it. You didn't have Radio in a Pandora menu, or with Pandora in the playlist when you did this, did you? It's hard to imagine why this would put the Radio in such a state. :-( -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Everything stopped working
Yes, I've tried that. I have absolutely no idea what to do. There are white lights and everything on the sqeezeboxes themselves, which usually indicates things are hooked up, so I have no explanation for what is going wrong. -- dundon00 dundon00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox phased out
thanks for all your replies. and may my SB3 last at least another five years. the second part of my question regards the slimserver software. who maintains the repo? logitech? should it be forked away from them? does it even matter? -- djfake --- www.itjerk.com www.progressiverock.com djfake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76172 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
fphredd;525789 Wrote: I'll try putting 7.4 on that machine and see if it works; will report back. thx No good. Also, tried on the ReadyNAS unmapped, positive I'm doing something wrong. Do I need to do the OBDC install there as well? Made the change mentioned in the instructions, but I get an OBDC error there too. I do still have one machine it runs on, so I'll get through, but would like to figure it all out. Thanks, and please forgive the ignorance. -- fphredd fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Everything stopped working
dundon00;525956 Wrote: Yes, I've tried that. I have absolutely no idea what to do. There are white lights and everything on the sqeezeboxes themselves, which usually indicates things are hooked up, so I have no explanation for what is going wrong. white lights ? they are not hooked up at mysqueezebox.com . Log in and check ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) Miscellaneous use: Radio (battery pack to be ordered) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams
We seem to be attracting a lot of, er, unfounded and uninformed postings about the audio quality of various SD/Logitech devices, the brains or lack thereof of Logitech management, etc. The Touch seems to bring out nearly as many as the Audiophile forum does. I'm a fan of reputation based systems, where the community provides information on the value one should place on a posting's author. A while back, a well regarded forum member wrote into one of the Audiophile threads: 2/10 I think we should start scoring the trolls. This post lacks originality - you were doing better earlier with the bath tub business. The author seemed to know a lot about the legacy Slim Devices products, he uses a handle of seanadams. What's not clear to me is how the SeanTrollScore system works. is it like a signal to noise ration, where smaller numbers means worse (more noise, less signal) or does it mean this posting is only a 2 out of a 1 (no troll) to (10 100% troll food) so that a highly troll score is 10 and a good posting is 1 or 2. Seems to me that lower is more trollish, like a bad signal to noise ratio. But I'm not sure, and need input from the user community. Thanks Pat -- pfarrell Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html pfarrell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76315 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Saving Search As Favorite: Any Hope?
Pretty sure you can't save a search or its results. How about adding each station to the current playlist, saving the playlist, then marking the playlist as a favorite? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76312 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech
DaveWr;525905 Wrote: The real problem for those that follow these forums, is that there is no Logitech involvement. What remains is a small, very committed bunch of ex Slim Devices employees, trying their best. but where is the steering comments of Logitech business management - the equivalent of Sean or Dean coments / actions. In this vacuum, rumours expand, change. Sales and support messages / actions are not aligned with the Logitech developers that post on these Forums. In this climate, the loyal customer base starts to question the future commitment, but even then no Logitech management comment. Dave Do you know of other companies of similar size (to Logitech) where corporate execs are active in product forums? I'm asking, I don't know. I can see how company-hosted product forums could be a real mixed bag. Many companies don't bother. I realize it was in place at the time of the SD purchase, but that doesn't mean it continues forever. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76286 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox phased out
djfake;525959 Wrote: the second part of my question regards the slimserver software. who maintains the repo? logitech? should it be forked away from them? does it even matter? It doesn't matter and would only be a waste of time. Grab tarballs of the nightlies if you're that worried. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76172 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Everything stopped working
Doesn't quite usually mean connected and blue mean not connected? At any rate, when I login to mysqueezebox.com I do see the players listed. Is there some setting in particular I should look for on that site? -- dundon00 dundon00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech
DaveWr;525905 Wrote: The real problem for those that follow these forums, is that there is no Logitech involvement. What remains is a small, very committed bunch of ex Slim Devices employees, trying their best. but where is the steering comments of Logitech business management - the equivalent of Sean or Dean coments / actions. In this vacuum, rumours expand, change. Sales and support messages / actions are not aligned with the Logitech developers that post on these Forums. In this climate, the loyal customer base starts to question the future commitment, but even then no Logitech management comment. I think the problem is really that we historically have been spoiled with very good communication, both with marketing, support and developers. The problem is that Logitech and the Squeezebox development is now switching to the same level of communication with users as other large companies. There are a few developers that have been here during the old days and still wants to keep the old communication level but their management probably want them to focus on finishing up the next product instead of spending time in the forum. The result of all this is that we keep complaining because sometimes there seems to be someone listening (the developers) and all we do is making both them and ourselves more frustrated. As already said, there are basically no large companies that have a connection with the end users on the same level as old Slim Devices had. This kind of connection just isn't possible when the organization grows. If you like an extreme example, look at companies like Apple which is extremely closed. We all really want the best of the two worlds: - The communication level we had with Slim Devices - The economical backbone/stability and distribution channel we have with Logitech However, I'm starting to realize that this will probably never happen because those things is VERY hard to combine. It's easy to think these things can be combined, but remember that's a lot different to answer questions from 500 users compared to answer questions from 5 users. It just takes too much time in a large company so you can't prioritize it in front of other things that produces economical result. I'm not sure about the economy on old Slim Devices but I suspect they wouldn't survive a product delay similar to what we have seen with the Radio, battery and Touch. Of course, they would probably not have put themselves in this situation, releasing several new products in this short time frame. Still, even thought it might not feel so, I really think the Squeezebox product still lives because someone inside Logitech believes in it and even is prepared to loose some money temporary to make it a success in the long run. It's easy to say that Logitech can just announce a release date in the forum, but remember that posting a date that later has to be delays is often a bad idea. The developers still do it sometimes, probably just to temporary stop to complains to get rid of some frustration so they can focus on the development, but this still doesn't mean it's a good idea to announce a date you aren't 110% sure you are going to reach. It's also easy to say that Logitech could release a half finished products to early adopters, but remember that this product is also going to get in the hands of reviewers which will give it bad critique and make that available to mass market users and decrease their interest. Fortunately, the good news is that the Radio and Touch really is the most exciting products in the streaming music player business I've ever seen, both in reality and on paper. IMHO, they are definitely worth some initial frustration and waiting time before the launch. I'm personally hoping that Logitech will at least try to pick and keep the good parts from Slim Devices, like: - The connection with the beta testers, at least the hardware beta testers - The connection with the third party developers - Try to keep the community alive so it can help them with the support issues I still have some fear they might fail with all this but there have been some good indications during the last months, well hidden behind all the complains also seen in this forum. Trying to keep the connection between the management and end users is a dead end in a big company as Logitech, it just won't work. Anyone wondering about the release date, before you complain in the forum at least contact your nearest Logitech sales contact and ask them. The only answer you are going to get in the forum is from the Logitech developers and community members that guesses or seen some rumor. To everyone complaining: - What would you think of the Squeezebox products if this forum didn't exist ? - Logitech management can easily shut down this forum if all they see is a lot of complaints and angry users that gives their products bad reputation. I'm not saying that we should be silent, but sometimes something that 10 people has
Re: [slim] Everything stopped working
I've also attempted to uninstall SqueezeCenter including all preferences and re-install to no avail. Might it help to disconnect or delete the players from mysqueezebox.com? -- dundon00 dundon00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech
erland;525983 Wrote: - Logitech management can easily shut down this forum if all they see is a lot of complaints and angry users that gives their products bad reputation. I'm not saying that we should be silent, but sometimes something that 10 people has already said doesn't have to be said another time. Someone at some point said logitech wanted to absorb this board into their usual support forums but got scared off. Not by negativity, but sheer volume. This is a chatty crowd. That said, if they did absorb this into their usual (icky) forums, it would kill the forums off. I don't think they actually want that: at least here they can babysit us and smack us when we get unruly. If people left to some 3rd party forum they would lose that amount of control. So, in general I think it's a mixed bag of blessings and curses, but overall I think the forum does them well, even if the higher ups don't understand it at all. (Though there were a couple of corporate types here to soothe the masses when the acquisition was first announced... I don't know if they gave up on us or not.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76286 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
