Re: [slim] a 3D printable enclosure for raspi A+ / JiveLite / piCorePlayer ?
philippe_44 wrote: Thanks Greg - what I'm wondering now is how many people can be interested by this idea. It does not seem that there are a lot of feedback here philippe_44, I would also like to see how the RPi foundation's screen fits with their new official RPi case. I have a feeling the top pulls off for a reason other than just giving access.:D Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104099 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
pippin wrote: Huh? How could replay gain possibly prevent clipping? It turns Down the signal BEFORE it comes to your DAC. All DACS do not like clipped signals... I know that it can not do anything to the recording, but at least it do not add more clipping... My Tact Preamp has a clipping indicator which makes this visable.. And on loudness recordings it absolutely sounds better using replay gain and then turn volume UP on the preamp. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Voice command
Does somebody have plans to integrate things like Echo or Cortana into the LMS system ? I have an Echo and I see easily how I could use it for some controls :-) LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
The Squeezeboxes do not clip, even at full volume. If your source material is in clipping range, nothing in the world will be able to change that. Unless you are gong with an over-preamplified analog signal into your power amp - in which case the problem is with your preamp setup - replay gain will have no effect on clipping. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
callesoroe wrote: It turns Down the signal BEFORE it comes to your DAC. All DACS do not like clipped signals... I know that it can not do anything to the recording, but at least it do not add more clipping... My Tact Preamp has a clipping indicator which makes this visable.. And on loudness recordings it absolutely sounds better using replay gain and then turn volume UP on the preamp. If the recording already has clipping, there is nothing you can do about it. If your DAC clips with a full-scale signal, it is rather badly designed - and easily fixed by not playing at full volume. So what you need is not replay gain, but a sensible gain structure in your system. To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
And, by the way... callesoroe wrote: It turns Down the signal BEFORE it comes to your DAC. All DACS do not like clipped signals... DACs really couldn't care less. A DAC doesn't know if a (digital) signal is clipped or not, and reproduces the signal just the same. OK, you might have a sentinent DAC that doesn't like Jimi Hendrix, but replay gain is not going to change the musical taste of a DAC. To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
Whether or not there is a clipping issue with a persons music or stereo gear is kind of beside the point of providing replay gain support in SqueezePlayer. Replay gain support would be a very nice feature for SqueezePlayer so that an Android based Squeezebox player will be able to have volume differences between different recordings addressed. With many squeeze users moving to players that are homegrown it would be nice to know that we can have the same feature/function that we had/have in the original squeeze devices. 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs Rock Solid with LMS 7.8.0 and WHS 2011 w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
Julf wrote: If the recording already has clipping, there is nothing you can do about it. If your DAC clips with a full-scale signal, it is rather badly designed - and easily fixed by not playing at full volume. So what you need is not replay gain, but a sensible gain structure in your system. Off topic here to i'm actually on to this ,the Idea that many modern loudness war treated recordings have to many adjacent full scale samples and these can give intersample overshots in many DAC's filters and oversamplers . Recordings are simply not meant to be like this so there is per se nothing wrong with such a DAC , but never the less at least benchmark has begun to design in headroom for this . Yes can be adressen by not having the volume at 100% but rg does it to by in most cases makes the volume lovar Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
Personally, I'm hoping Amazon (or Logitech, or some 3rd party) does an integration between Echo and Harmony remotes. Then you could use voice controls for the managing the whole AV system... EricBergan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] LMS 7.9.0 not recognizing my players in Windows 10
(I've read through the Windows 10 and other threads, and can't see anything that helps me. It's probably something simple, and I apologize in advance, if so.) I've had a Duet and Boom for many years and a Radio for a couple. I've almost never used LMS, going directly to msb.com, instead, but I've always kept LMS installed and available. I've now got a new laptop and Windows 10, and am trying to get LMS running, with no luck. The Radio, Boom and Duet are all connected to MySqueezebox.com, but can't connect to LMS. LMS Status shows Total Players Recognized = 0. Squeeze Commander shows LMS as Connecting at Port 9000. I've got the latest install of LMS 7.9.0 and it shows, The server is running. It's set up for Auto-startup at login. Diagnostics show all ports and pings as OK. It shows my operating system correctly as Windows 10. It shows HTTP Port 9000. I have my msb account information entered. The most recent server log shows the only entry as [15-08-10 14:40:41.6554] main::init (394) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.0, 1438870722, Mon Aug 10 04:05:03 CUT 2015) perl 5.014001 The last scanner log entries show no problems. Any ideas? Thanks so much, everybody! - Steve kc5f's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.9.0 not recognizing my players in Windows 10
On your Radio scroll to My Music press the big knob, you should be offered the option to connect to your LMS PC. kidstypike 1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 1 x (Squeezebox) Radio - 2 x Touch - 2 x piCorePlayer kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.9.0 not recognizing my players in Windows 10
Thanks. I'm offered the option, yes, but get Problems Connecting - cannot connect to LMS. As I mentioned, Squeeze Commander says Connecting at Port 9000 but never connects, as it should and did with my previous computer and Windows 7. As additional information LMS is listed in the Windows Firewall as being allowed through, so that's not it, either... kc5f's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
callesoroe wrote: It turns Down the signal BEFORE it comes to your DAC. Usually no, it just tells the DAC to turn down the volume. Just to be clear, replay volume just adjusts the gain - exactly like you would using the volume control. There is no difference. So whatever advantage you think replay gain gives you you would get by turning down the volume a bit. To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.9.0 not recognizing my players in Windows 10
kidstypike wrote: Or open LMS web control 127.0.0.1:9000 any Squeezeboxen on your network should show in the dropdown top right, even if connected to mysqueezebox.com. Or look in the left hand Pane ExtrasMusic Sourcename of LMS Local Server 18535 +---+ |Filename: 3.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18535| +---+ Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.9.0 not recognizing my players in Windows 10
kidstypike wrote: On your Radio scroll to My Music press the big knob, you should be offered the option to connect to your LMS PC. Or open LMS web control 127.0.0.1:9000 any Squeezeboxen on your network should show in the dropdown top right, even if connected to mysqueezebox.com. +---+ |Filename: Pic07.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18534| +---+ kidstypike 1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 1 x (Squeezebox) Radio - 2 x Touch - 2 x piCorePlayer kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
Mnyb wrote: Off topic here to i'm actually on to this ,the Idea that many modern loudness war treated recordings have to many adjacent full scale samples and these can give intersample overshots in many DAC's filters and oversamplers . Recordings are simply not meant to be like this so there is per se nothing wrong with such a DAC , but never the less at least benchmark has begun to design in headroom for this . I have to disagree. DACs should not have a concept of how recordings are meant to be - they should just be able to cope with the worst case. Intersample overshoots are not that hard to deal with. Yes can be adressen by not having the volume at 100% but rg does it to by in most cases makes the volume lovar Indeed. How many of us play with volume at 100%? To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.9.0 not recognizing my players in Windows 10
Actually, even easier. The laptop came with McAfee Security installed. Turns out it had its own firewall running on top of Windows Firewall. I turned the McAfee firewall off (after much complaining by the program) and LMS went from Connecting to Handshake to Connected on Squeeze Commander in a matter of seconds and I can now connect any combination of my devices to LMS. Thanks for your ideas - I had a feeling it would be something simple. Sorry I didn't discover it before bothering everybody, but maybe it will help someone else in the future. - Steve kc5f's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
philippe_44 wrote: Does somebody have plans to integrate things like Echo or Cortana into the LMS system ? I have an Echo and I see easily how I could use it for some controls :-) I praise your creativity. Your discussion on a 3D printed case for picore (other thread, earlier) made me think. I thought of a player/server that would include an iThing dock. Seemed too ambitious. However I went on fantasizing about a player/server that would include Bluetooth beacon tech (to get IPeng and others to automatically select the closest player). After a brief search I found 'this project' (https://github.com/etwmc/PersonalHomeKit). It appears Siri is in the realm of Homekit, as is iBeacon... Please don't take my word for it and check by yourself if you care. All of this is way over my head. On a personal note, I don't believe at all in voice command, but a lot in presence detection. Anyways. Always great to see new ideas and initiatives. 4 SB 3 iPeng (iPhone + iPad) Squeezebox Server 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld ShairTunes2 by disaster123 Local Player, BBC iPlayer by Triode Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
Julf wrote: Turn down the volume. I said TURN DOWN THE VOLUME!! Yep ... I've been working with VR for the last 25 years and it drove me nuts, especially because every time, there was supposed to be *the* algorythm that will make it fully usable. But I have to admit that after using Echo for a while, it is surprisingly good even with a lot of background noise. I've not paid a lot of attention, but it seems that neural networks are now working thanks to the insane increase of CPU power. I used to work on that topic in mid 80's and although it was fun, computers at that time where clearly lacking performances LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
Oh, voice recognition actually works and it has indeed already worked pretty well since the late 90s. The biggest issue is that you need a huge semantic database to compare with if you want to analyze more complex phrases which used to be a problem for mobile solutions but now that they all just send some meta-analyzed voice (or in the case of echo even the raw recordings) back to some server farm and do all the work there it's obviously more feasible, especially since you no longer have to replicate that database to all devices. The problem with VR is that it annoys everyone around you if you use it and speech is also pretty slow for a lot of tasks, I think that's more of a limitation than technology. And then... call me old fashioned, but I don't want to have the NSA run their bots over every piece of sound generated in my home, recorded by an array mike that even detects the faintest whisper in the edge of my appartment... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] player with gui
Wolfy wrote: If you feel so, why keep arguing? All I'm doing is looking for alternatives? you have mentioned web-gui, squeezeplug, jivelite. thank you, do you have any more alternatives or are you just going to keep arguing? Nice, good alternative. Any more options? There is also controller software on Windows Phone. You can get something like a Lumia 635 for $40 or so unlocked and use that as a controller. DrewSB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26817 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104088 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
pippin wrote: Yea, sure, if I accept to not have an input device for voice but to allow it to listen to my whole home, that's a case, too. I know what you mean because it's actually the only reason I sometimes wear my Aplle Watch at home: to be able to quickly access basic player controls without having to grab for a device. Well, I've not bought yet an apple watch, but the main reason I might one day is to be able to use iPeng :-) Still don't use Siri on it, for some reason it's always set to the wrong language. Actually that's indeed the biggest unsolved issue for me: detecting languages. I switch between English and German all the time when writing and my devices are usually all set to English but then if you e.g. Want to search for a navigation destination in Berlin it simply doesn't recognize them because they have German names Same the other way around for music: if I set the language to German but then want to search for an Album with an English name you first have to go figure how Siri feels that name might be pronounced in German I know exactly what you mean, I have the same problem, with French obvsiouly, and this is really irritating LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] a 3D printable enclosure for raspi A+ / JiveLite / piCorePlayer ?
Greg Erskine wrote: Hi philippe_44, I really like your idea. I think the Raspberry Pi Foundation's screen will be a game changer when (and if) it arrives. I imagine it will be using the display port and in about a week after its release it will be the most common display. Personally, I think the way the i2s DAC board and the screen fit together on the RasPi will be the issue that needs to be solved with any case solution. regards Greg Thanks Greg - what I'm wondering now is how many people can be interested by this idea. It does not seem that there are a lot of feedback here LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104099 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.9.0 not recognizing my players in Windows 10
Kill McAfee and use free Avira. I've been using it for years with no problems. Fizbin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
EricBergan wrote: Personally, I'm hoping Amazon (or Logitech, or some 3rd party) does an integration between Echo and Harmony remotes. Then you could use voice controls for the managing the whole AV system... Turn down the volume. I said TURN DOWN THE VOLUME!! To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.9.0 not recognizing my players in Windows 10
Or: with the LMS running on the computer, go to your Radio and do a factory reset, or on the Boom just pull the plug and start again. Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New Classical Music Streaming Service IDAGIO - an opportunity for ICKSTREAM ?
Hallo All, There is a new classical streaming service named IDAGIO operated from Berlin. Currently there is only an IOS app. Apparently a web client or streaming reception via browser is on the agenda. The highest available audio quality, up to lossless and HD audio and other special services are planned for IDAGIO PREMIUM. See http://idagio.com. The basic service is free. Perhaps there is an opportunity for ICKSTREAM to add a new service, since IDAGIO might have an interest to expand its audience. Being both located in Berlin it should not be too difficult to get in contact. Best Otto-Wilhelm --- 1 transporter with touch for controlling, 1 squeezebox 3 6 squeezebox radio 3 squeezebox controllers (+ a number of different squeezebox spares) ipeng on IPhones and IPads LMS with MusicIP under Windows Home Server 2011 on Dell PowerEdge 840 Server (Quad core Xenon X3210 @ 2.13 GHz, 8 GB RAM) ripping software: DBPowerAmp, tag editing software: TagRename Otto-Wilhelm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
pippin wrote: Actually I believe it's primarily _complex_ tasks where it shines. Simple tasks like changing volume are much easier done by a physical controller, especially given latency and need to repeat the command. But something more complex like a search which requires several steps when done through a haptic UI can get much faster with voice because you can phrase more complex commands in a sentence than a simplified UX will usually directly allow. Fair point, but don't you think that it can be very efficient for simple tasks because these require you to find your input device and then use your hands for a simple tap where voice would afford the same result while mobilizing much less resources ? I feel the efficency of voice as a UI does not vary linearly against complexity of the tasks. It is very situational, though. If I know what I want to listen to, VR is great. If I don't know exactly, vision + touch helps to embrace a larger amount of information / make choice much for efficiently, no ? LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
Yea, sure, if I accept to not have an input device for voice but to allow it to listen to my whole home, that's a case, too. I know what you mean because it's actually the only reason I sometimes wear my Aplle Watch at home: to be able to quickly access basic player controls without having to grab for a device. Still don't use Siri on it, for some reason it's always set to the wrong language. Actually that's indeed the biggest unsolved issue for me: detecting languages. I switch between English and German all the time when writing and my devices are usually all set to English but then if you e.g. Want to search for a navigation destination in Berlin it simply doesn't recognize them because they have German names Same the other way around for music: if I set the language to German but then want to search for an Album with an English name you first have to go figure how Siri feels that name might be pronounced in German --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
epoch1970 wrote: I praise your creativity. Your discussion on a 3D printed case for picore (other thread, earlier) made me think. I thought of a player/server that would include an iThing dock. Seemed too ambitious. However I went on fantasizing about a player/server that would include Bluetooth beacon tech (to get IPeng and others to automatically select the closest player). After a brief search I found 'this project' (https://github.com/etwmc/PersonalHomeKit). It appears Siri is in the realm of Homekit, as is iBeacon... Please don't take my word for it and check by yourself if you care. All of this is way over my head. On a personal note, I don't believe at all in voice command, but a lot in presence detection. Anyways. Always great to see new ideas and initiatives. I agree that presence detection is a really nice thing and I would also gladly welcome that on my LMS system. I'm not supporting the idea of full voice command, as pointed by pippin, it can be much less efficient than haptics in many cases, but there are simple commands for which it is much faster. I also think that a multi-input UI is the best way to go, taking advantage of the most efficient mode for each situation LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] player with gui
DrewSB wrote: There is also controller software on Windows Phone. You can get something like a Lumia 635 for $40 or so unlocked and use that as a controller. Can it also be a player ? Think op specifically wanted player and GUI together . Otherwise there are plenty of good control options for your phone or pad . ( I love the opposite having the GUI not on the player ) Jiveelite do emulate a large part of the squeezebox Touch or Radios interface , but it's really only optimal for these small screens Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104088 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
Julf wrote: I have to disagree. DACs should not have a concept of how recordings are meant to be - they should just be able to cope with the worst case. Intersample overshoots are not that hard to deal with. Indeed. How many of us play with volume at 100%? Most people using the digital output uses 100% I think , that's how we learned to do it , should it not be bitperfect :) before the DAC . I have experimented with not using 100% volume before my digital processor to try to asses how it deals with this . Results are still inconclusive these bad recordings sounds so bad anyway it may be hard to tell if they sound even worse due to this . As the squeezebox uses 24 bit output for 99% of your typical content that is 16 bit they only get shifted a down to the next bit or so and you can experiment how your DAC behaves now . I actually agree about intersample overshoots , but actually a surprisingly large amount of typical chips does not deal with it or produce slightly less snr when programmed to do so ( the backside of incomplete measurement a silly hunt for specs ) . I think this have been debated elsewhere 3 to 10dB headroom have been suggested but it is apparently not commonly implemented ? Or is it ? I'm starting to get how really hard it is to come by good data in the audiophile world More off topic if you confirmed that your DAC has this problem set up a SoX rule and up sample with a slight volume decrease :) Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
pippin wrote: Oh, voice recognition actually works and it has indeed already worked pretty well since the late 90s. Multi-speakers, dealing with accent, noisy environment, text-to-recognition was still a big challenge till very recently (and still is a bit) and there is nothing that irriates people more than having to repeat the same thing a few times to then realize that something else was recognized. The biggest issue is that you need a huge semantic database to compare with if you want to analyze more complex phrases which used to be a problem for mobile solutions but now that they all just send some meta-analyzed voice (or in the case of echo even the raw recordings) back to some server farm and do all the work there it's obviously more feasible, especially since you no longer have to replicate that database to all devices. that's right ... The problem with VR is that it annoys everyone around you if you use it and speech is also pretty slow for a lot of tasks, I think that's more of a limitation than technology. A bit, but it is also very true if you have to speak loud slow - if you can use normal tune, then the annoying factor goes away a lot. Using voice as a UI can be slow in some cases, but there are many many simple tasks for where it is very convenient and where using any other sort of input system is slow painful - a sort of sweet spot for VR And then... call me old fashioned, but I don't want to have the NSA run their bots over every piece of sound generated in my home, recorded by an array mike that even detects the faintest whisper in the most remote corner... I understand that although I'm afraid anything we do is already scanned, unfortunately. I've given up hope on that LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice command
philippe_44 wrote: if you can use normal tune, then the annoying factor goes away a lot. I still feel it's awkward to start talking to a machine to control it when you are not alone. It can disturb others or raise did you talk to me? kind of confusion etc. I feel it's primarily for situations where you are alone. Here in Berlin's tech community I'm recently seeing quite a number of people using Siri on their Apple Watch in public and I can't help it, I'm annoyed by someone adding a reminder next to me. It's a bit like talking on the phone in public, a pest that fortunately got quite significantly reduced in recent years due to the fact that people now tend to use messaging instead... there are many many simple tasks where it is very convenient and where using any other sort of input system is slow painful - a sort of sweet spot for VR Actually I believe it's primarily _complex_ tasks where it shines. Simple tasks like changing volume are much easier done by a physical controller, especially given latency and need to repeat the command. But something more complex like a search which requires several steps when done through a haptic UI can get much faster with voice because you can phrase more complex commands in a sentence than a simplified UX will usually directly allow. I understand that although I'm afraid anything we do is already scanned, unfortunately. I've given up hope on that Oh, I'm pretty sure there are no microphones for mass surveillance in my home right now (never can be sure about _individual_ surveillance but that's a whole different topic). And saying I don't care just makes it too easy for them. Companies like Apple and recently to a certain degree also Google are trying hard to fight back on the privacy front, let's not spoil all that by not caring about even more severe intrusions. Phones and Watches at least only have near-field microphones, Echo OTOH... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
callesoroe wrote: No but so it is not And then replay gain can prevent clipping being sent to your DAC. And that has a positive effect on the sound. What, in your view, do you think replay gain actually does? To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
