Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?

2015-05-06 Thread CatBus

Thanks for all of the responses so far.  I've got some good starting
points for research and experimentation.

It seems we're all in the same boat together--thanks to all who has the
time and knowledge to scope out this path a bit before me.

Seems quite a needless shame that no commercial product really fills the
gap left by the Squeezebox line.



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Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?

2015-05-05 Thread CatBus

tcutting wrote: 
 I've got an RPi running squeezelite and jivelite (using SqueezeOnArch).
 jivelite responds to keyboard commands to navigate, and use FLIRC and a
 media center remote to generate the psuedo key-presses from an IR
 remote. I have an LCD screen (same resolution as Joggler, so can use the
 Joggler skin in jivelite) connected via HDMI. HiFiBerryPi AMP+ to some
 passive speakers - almost a Boom2.  Haven't figured out how to add
 visualizations, but the menus work OK, and Now Playing screen.

Wow... that is... wow, it sounds like exactly what I want.  Thanks for
the pointers.

Okay, so I've never done any of this before though.  I'm certainly game
to try, but it's all new, so bear with my newbness.

The Raspberry Pi--it's always just a board, no enclosure, right?  Are
there multiple versions?  Are there people who make enclosures that
would be applicable to this sort of use?  One of my locations is not
remotely safe for exposed circuits, the others may be able to handle it.
How do you, you know, keep it safe?

Small LCD screens seem to be tough to locate.  I really only need 4-7,
what do you suggest, and how do you connect it up to the Pi?

HiFiBerry.com seems unresponsive at the moment, I'm assuming you'd only
need the DAC+ to feed to a receiver or active speakers, correct?

I figured visualizations would be the hardest part.  If SoftSqueeze
could be made to work, I suppose I could run that, or maybe even a
second, silent, synced player showing nothing but a visualization.

And, squeezelite is the player app and jivelite is the remote app,
right?  Can't squeezelite be controlled directly by keypresses?  Maybe
I'm confused about what these things do.



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Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?

2015-05-05 Thread CatBus

castalla wrote: 
 Joggler with sqpOS - a cheap Touch replacement.

Never used SqueezePlay--how does sqpOS/SqueezePlay handle playback
controls?  i.e. does it have its own controls, or does it rely on your
using a separate control interface via something like a web browser? 
What about Now Playing info?  Screenshots may be a better way to show me
how it works, but I haven't really found any good ones.

Like the touchscreen integration, though.  Not usable from a distance
like an IR remote, but pretty cool nevertheless.

FWIW, I'm very comfortable with software hacks, hardware hacks much less
so--so I was leaning toward a Tablet running SqueezePlay and attempting
to get an external IR receiver to function over USB or somesuch.



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[slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?

2015-05-05 Thread CatBus

So, lucky me, every Squeezebox I own is still 100% functional.  But I
know eventually something's going to break, and dammit I really like
these things.  So to prepare myself for that dreadful day, I wanted to
write out my personal feature wishlist (sort of prioritized), and see
what's out there that best matches what I want.

1. Ogg Vorbis support.  Yeah, let's start with a curveball, shall we? 
100% of my music is in Ogg Vorbis format, so good support is a must, but
on-the-fly transcoding is fine.
2. Gapless playback
3. Multi-device sync (without breaking gapless playback!)
4. Multi-tagging + ALBUMARTIST support
5. Replaygain support
6. Ability to play Internet streams (i.e. radio stations)
7. Ability to control playback from and show Now Playing
info/visualizations on that device
8. IR remote support

As far as what's out there: for packaged products, we have Sonos, Olive,
and various DLNA implementations (anything else?).  Then, for projects,
we have, AFAICT, various ways to run SqueezeLite--on a Raspberry Pi, on
an HTPC, on a tablet, etc.

First off, did I miss anything?  Secondly, how well do each of these
replacements stack up, relative to an actual Squeezebox?  If I
understand correctly, #2, #3, and #4 are hard to come by in packaged
products, and #7 and #8 might be hard to accomplish via SqueezeLite.  I
probably handle #7 and #8 via the SlimServer web interface (or some
other interface) on a phone or tablet, although I really do strongly
prefer using the IR remote control over the web interface.



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Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?

2015-05-05 Thread CatBus

Man in a van wrote: 
 Are you in the former commonwealth, or the UK?

Former colonies, I'm afraid. I'm looking up various Raspberry Pi
projects ATM, but having a Joggler or two shipped over wouldn't be out
of the question.



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Re: [slim] Listening breaks up when copying large files

2010-08-02 Thread CatBus

rbl;565618 Wrote: 
 I actually have a NAS server. Buffalo Linkstation Pro LS-500GL, prob 3
 years old or so. I never used it as a server since I always assumed it
 would be even more unreliable / painful than running SBS on Windows
 (and also I used to use Inguz EQ but have pretty much given up on that
 now, and try to use softsqueeze / squeezeplay too).
 
 A 100ft backup cat6 is a good idea, but frankly in this day and age is
 rather disappointing that these wireless things don't work better!

Sounds like the NAS solution is not for you.  Still, you can pick up a
used P3 desktop with a gig or RAM or so for $50, and it plus a wired
connection would behave better than the NAS or any combination of
wireless.


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Re: [slim] Listening breaks up when copying large files

2010-07-30 Thread CatBus

G to N may move some of the data traffic out of the way, but the SB3 is
stuck at G (unless you get yet another N router and set it up as a
client bridge...).  As others have mentioned, you're actually doing two
hops over wireless just to play music, doubling the music traffic.  G to
N may improve things, but I'm dubious it would make things completely
fixed.

Two routers with two non-overlapping channels is definitely doable, and
you'd need a wireless dongle for you laptop to support it.  Dual-homing
is what it's called when you set up a single machine for two networks.

But I'm of the opinion that the ultimate problem is that, the way your
network is currently designed, your laptop is a major choke point. 
You're already asking it to do too much, and I'm not sure creating a
whole new network topology is a good idea if your laptop is still the
chokepoint in that new setup.

Instead of looking at wireless access points, look at NAS devices that
support Squeezebox Server.  You can offload the work onto that, wire
that to your network so there's only one wireless hop, and you'll be
much happier.  Just double-check that your music format is playing back
natively and isn't transcoded (NAS devices don't have much CPU power to
transcode).  Or even skip the NAS device and get a real low-end PC to
act as a server--there's no limits then.


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Re: [slim] Listening breaks up when copying large files

2010-07-29 Thread CatBus

Generally speaking, if you're running out of network capacity, your
solutions are to use less or get more.

Ethernet is the cheapest, fastest, and easiest fix.  Otherwise you're
looking at creating segregated wireless networks for data and music, or
some sort of QoS setup.  This will probably require purchasing one or
more new access points, voiding the warranies with custom firmware,
and/or taking a crash course in advanced networking.

There's also the much smaller possibility that it's some other sort of
I/O getting overloaded.  If the server is the source or dest of those
file transfers, the playback is being transcoded, AND the disk is also
slow or otherwise busy, I suppose is could be disk I/O.  But even that
would be pretty unlikely.


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[slim] Can you still purchase IR remotes?

2010-07-16 Thread CatBus

...and if so, where?  I can't find them on the website anymore.


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Re: [slim] Can you still purchase IR remotes?

2010-07-16 Thread CatBus

Okay the Touch remote is probably the best match for an old SB3 remote. 
Support seems like an odd place to hide products you can purchase, but
at least now I know!


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Re: [slim] Portable FLAC Players

2009-07-25 Thread CatBus

jimzak;443331 Wrote: 
 Cowon is a nice piece of kit but the battery change issues on all their
 devices holds me back.

FYI--if you still have your X5, the Rockbox bootloader supports
solid-state drives (the Cowon firmware does not).  Replacing the
mechanical drive with a solid state drive should help with battery
consumption enormously, even if the battery is old and won't take much
of a charge.  That's certainly my long-term maintenance plan.


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Re: [slim] synchronization problems - and getting worse

2009-07-24 Thread CatBus

When I say noticeable drift, I mean it'd be correct one day, 10 minutes
slow the next day, 20 minutes slow two days later, etc.  A little normal
clock drift, that you wouldn't notice except over very long periods of
time, should be perfectly fine.

I think your best bet is to set up a test server on a full-powered PC. 
If the problem goes away, we know it's something with the QNAP.  If it
DOESN'T go away, one of your SB3's may have a hardware problem, and you
could call support.


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Re: [slim] Portable FLAC Players

2009-07-23 Thread CatBus

tommyz;442770 Wrote: 
 Don't use Cowon - they don't support gapless playback (and probably
 never will).
 Unless you are willing to wait for a working rockbox port...
 
 
 TommyZ

Only time travellers need to wait.  Rockbox has been working on my
Cowon player for about four years now.


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Re: [slim] synchronization problems - and getting worse

2009-07-23 Thread CatBus

Sounds like you've already done much of the troubleshooting, so I'm not
left with many good suggestions.

Have you checked to see if the server clock has noticeable drift from
correct time?  Have you noticed any difference in behavior on transcoded
vs non-transcoded tracks?  If you set up a test server on a regular PC
and do the same thing, does the problem go away?

If the answer to the last question is yes, then it's something about
the NAS.  Maybe I/O if CPU utilization is low.


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Re: [slim] Portable FLAC Players

2009-07-22 Thread CatBus

Rockbox does indeed support gapless playback, AFAICT regardless of the
hardware target you install it on.

I have an iAudio X5 myself, with Rockbox firmware.  The X5 sounds nice
for a portable (it's reputedly one of the best), but not good enough
that lossless really makes a difference.  If you have the time, you may
as well transcode to a lossy format and fit more songs on your player. 
In addition to this, I also apply some volume normalization since I tend
to use my portable in noisy, non-ideal listening environments.

Speaking of which, Rockbox also includes an equalizer which has been a
godsend for me.  My terrible car stereo can be made listenable.


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Re: [slim] some mp3s don't work

2009-06-19 Thread CatBus

Possible bug in the native MP3 (firmware) decoder?  Try turning off
native decoding for MP3 in SqueezeCenter (stream as FLAC), and see if it
plays okay.  If so, then that's your workaround for the time being, and
I'm sure the dev team would love you to open a bug on this, including an
example of a problem MP3.


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Re: [slim] Problems with player pausing.

2009-06-19 Thread CatBus

7.3.3 fixed a few corner cases where playback would very rarely stop for
me on long web streams.  Certainly can't hurt to update to the most
recent version and find out if it helps you.


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Re: [slim] Sync a split second off between SB2 and Boom

2009-05-12 Thread CatBus

JannikDK;421577 Wrote: 
 I also have sync problems. I have had my Duet for one month now and have
 tried to sync it to my controller and with SoftSqueeze. Non of it
 works.
 
 After abouts 10 seconds it's out of sync. 
 I've planned to buy a Boom and one more Reciever, but if the
 syncronisation doens't work I must give up that plan.
 
 Can anobody give me a quaranty for that it will work perfect with
 another Reciever, or is it a well known issue?

If you buy another receiver and a boom, you can sync them with your
existing receiver and controller and everything will work great.  The
second Softsqueeze enters the mix, things will break.  This is all
pretty much well-known.  Hardware players sync great.  Software players
don't.  If you manage to get a software player syncing right now, it's
just luck.


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Re: [slim] Firmare Update??

2009-03-11 Thread CatBus

Peter314;405619 Wrote: 
 There are already a scary number of posts about minor new versions along
 the lines of since installing 7.x.y music sounds worse/server keeps
 rebooting/toaster caught fire/wife left me kind of thing.

Two things to remember:

- Unless you need a new feature or bugfix in a new release, there's
really no reason to upgrade.  If you have a system that's working
flawlessly, why change it?

- Any given (non-beta) upgrade will work fine for 99% of users and
break something for 1% of users.  However, 100% of that 1% of users
will complain about (as they should), making it appear to an outside
observer that upgrades never go smoothly.  On the contrary, upgrades
almost always go smoothly.


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Re: [slim] Is gapless synching a reality?

2009-03-09 Thread CatBus

Yes*

* There may be issues with certain players types or music formats, or
combinations thereof.  But generally speaking, it works.  I can be less
broad in my answer if you're more specific in your question.


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Re: [slim] General Dissatisfaction

2009-03-03 Thread CatBus

drs;402781 Wrote: 
 Knowing that the vast majority of people don't have issues like this
 means that they should be solvable. If, however, that solution is hand
 editing 1 tags, it is clearly not going to get done :)

Hand-editing would only be necessary if you wanted perfect tags. 
Something like TagRename could be used to search-and-replace common
mistags, and that could yield good enough.  But it'll still take some
time and effort, there's no getting around that.

But yes, take comfort in the fact that your server is vastly
overpowered and is the envy of much of the forum.  The performance
issues you're seeing are not from lack of muscle, not even close.


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Re: [slim] 7.3.2 Stable?

2009-02-08 Thread CatBus

Disable antivirus (temporarily) during the scan.  If that helps, search
for the AV exceptions that sometimes need to be made for
SqueezeCenter.

I'd run NetStumbler to figure out exactly which channels your neighbors
are using.  Trial and error will just make you tired, especially if your
neighbors are sitting all over the spectrum.


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Re: [slim] 7.3.2 Stable?

2009-02-03 Thread CatBus

Sounds to me like your wireless network is getting clobbered.  In my
experience 7.3.2 is quite stable on my 2 SB3s (both wireless).  Try it
wired and see if things improve.  Your neighbor may have just bought a
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Re: [slim] DLNA Compliance?

2009-01-29 Thread CatBus

wildgoose;390803 Wrote: 
 Think about it, 5 years from now, when all TVs or receivers or game
 consoles or whatever starts to support DLNA, and DLNA server software
 on computers becomes better and better and NAS and receivers
 universally supports it. Who's gonna buy SB?

Me, and anyone else who needs something better than DLNA.  Or was that
one of those rhetorical questions? ;)


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Re: [slim] FFW in Squeezebox - Version: 7.3.2 - 24695

2009-01-27 Thread CatBus

FWIW, given that the problem seems to be one of patents and licensing,
it may be considerably faster to convert your library to FLAC (or
something else) than to hang your hopes on this bug.


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Re: [slim] Sync delay between tracks

2009-01-19 Thread CatBus

To elaborate: it looks like the bugs that have been mentioned are
specific to transcoded streams (e.g. ALAC) where the transcoding
process is slow (perhaps on a NAS install).  Most other use cases seem
to be already much better behaved in the 7.3 series, and the bugs that
have been identified are either being worked on or are already fixed in
beta.


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Re: [slim] 7.3.3 bugs galore

2009-01-15 Thread CatBus

Seconding the just you vote.  I can verify it works without any
significant issues on Linux.  I can't speak for SoftSqueeze but the
rest sounds like something's gone wonky on either the server or the
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Re: [slim] Why is SSID broadcast required to be on?

2009-01-14 Thread CatBus

mvordeme;384425 Wrote: 
 If the client will use the key only if required, the attack could still
 be successful in encrypted networks.

That's correct.  Clients would, in an attempt to fail gracefully, see
that their SSID suddenly no longer required a WPA key and they'd just
connect to it anyway.  It would absolutely be more secure if the client
saw that the AP didn't require WPA and refused to connect.  That would
make this attack impossible even against WEP protected networks.


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Re: [slim] Why is SSID broadcast required to be on?

2009-01-13 Thread CatBus

Here's a simple illustration of what's being done now, and how a much
more subtle variant is possible against those who don't broadcast their
SSID:

There have already been reported cases of less-sophisticated hostile
access points in public places.  i.e. you go to an airport or hotel
and there's some access point somewhere with the SSID FreeWiFi (or
something similar).  You either assume it's run by the establishment or
you don't care as long as it can get you on the Internet.  You connect
to it, do some work, and then move on.

Most if not all of the Internet traffic to and from your computer
passed in plaintext through this hacker's access point.  At the very
least, he would have an automated process that scans for usernames and
passwords.  He could also poison your DNS, so that you go to websites
under his control instead of the ones you intend to go to.  This could
be as simple as a malware injection or as complicated as a
man-in-the-middle e-commerce or e-banking impersonation attack.

The problems with this attack are that the user must choose to connect
to this access point, and the access point must broadcast its SSID,
which could cause the hacker, or at least the access point, to be
physically located.  Luckily for this type of hacker, most places do
not normally scan for rogue access points, and many users are easy to
fool.

However, if your laptop announces I'd like to connect to MyWiFi
whenever it's turned on, a particularly clever hacker could modify his
access point so that its SSID was MyWiFi, and they don't even need to
broadcast it.  Your computer will connect to it without asking you, and
by the time you ask yourself Wait a sec...how am I even connected to
the Internet? you've already given them a lot to play with.

And that's the attack vector.  Now the attacker's rogue hidden SSID can
be discovered just like your home's hidden SSID (an SSID is never hidden
if the network is being used at all), so they're not invulnerable.  But
as I said, most places do not scan for rogue access points at all, let
alone know how to scan for a hidden SSID, and it's even less likely
they'd choose to scan at the exact moment you're using the rogue access
point, which is the only time it would be visible.

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Re: [slim] Why is SSID broadcast required to be on?

2009-01-12 Thread CatBus

Please excuse me for being pedantic if you already know this, but I'm
not sure this has been spelled out clearly:

Disabling SSID broadcast is WORSE than ineffective.  It actually
reduces the security of your mobile wireless devices.  If you disable
SSID broadcast, you are INTRODUCING a vulnerability into your systems
that wasn't there before, and not getting anything in return.

Also, the relevant wireless specs state that a wireless device may
refuse to connect to an access point that does not broadcast its SSID. 
In practice, they tend to connect initially and then fail to
periodically reconnect under various circumstances.  This is NEVER A
BUG and if the device manufacturer actually fixes this issue, they
are simply doing you a favor, nothing more.

That said, you may do whatever you like with your own networks.  I
simply hope that you don't do anything based on all-too-common
misconceptions about wireless security.


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Re: [slim] Why is SSID broadcast required to be on?

2009-01-12 Thread CatBus

mvordeme;383574 Wrote: 
 Thanks for being pedantic ;). If it has been spelled out clearly before,
 I have not come across it. I am interested in learning more about the
 nature of the vulnerability introduced by hiding the SSID. If that
 would lead too far in the current context, could you please hint me at
 some documentation?
 
 Thanks and regards,
 -- mvordeme

Here you go:

http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2007/030507-wireless-security.html

It's what the article refers to as the KARMA attack.  Basically because
the access point doesn't have a beacon, your devices constantly check
for the presence of this SSID (and in effect become SSID beacons in
their own right).  Then an attacker knows your SSID and that your
device will automatically connect to that SSID, and they can
impersonate your WAP and at that point they can do all kinds of nasty
things--DNS poisoning and password sniffing being the most obvious.


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Re: [slim] DLNA Compliance?

2009-01-10 Thread CatBus

thomsens;382299 Wrote: 
 My problem is that I've spent over $3K with them and I don't want bricks
 on my hands.

There is zero risk of that.  If Mountain View gets struck by a comet
and every trace of SlimDevices is burnt to a crisp, SqueezeCenter would
still be actively updated with new capabilities because it's open source
(currently there's no need for decentralized development, but there's
absolutely nothing stopping it).  Your devices will only become bricks
if the hardware fails.

Heck, DLNA proxies could be added by the community in the post-Mountain
View apocalypse too, if there was enough demand and a coder willing and
able to do it.

That's one of the reasons why I went with Slim over the other
solutions.  Slim devices are actually LESS likely to become bricks than
their competition, not more.


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Re: [slim] 802.11n Devices

2008-12-30 Thread CatBus

bgriffis;377323 Wrote: 
 Everything I've read indicates that current hardware will be firmware
 upgradeable to be compliant with the final 802.11n spec

Everything I've read says this too.  But the spec is being written by
those who stand to profit more if the final spec is NOT firmware
upgradable from existing products (because they can sell us another
one!).  Consumer electronics has a long, ugly history of completely
unneccessary incompatibilities being foisted on consumers to shore up
profit margins.  802.11n may be an exception, maybe not.


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Re: [slim] Working around bugs in native ogg streaming?

2008-12-29 Thread CatBus

JJZolx;376263 Wrote: 
 What a bassackwards thing to have to do to address a problem with
 streaming radio.  Then you also disable native streaming of local Ogg
 content.

This is not necessarily a problem.  There are bugs in streaming local
Ogg content that are also fixed by disabling native decoding.  And as
of the new streaming code, AFAICT transcoded streams have complete
feature parity with native streams (seeking, etc), so there's no
downside to doing this unless you have a low-powered NAS that can't
keep up.

My local collection is 100% Ogg Vorbis, and I haven't been able to use
native playback for one reason or another for the past several years. 
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for 7.3.2 though...


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Re: [slim] Working around bugs in native ogg streaming?

2008-12-29 Thread CatBus

bpa;376953 Wrote: 
 As I understand it, not so much a bug as some encoding of OGG streams
 result in a requirement for large decoding table which the SB does not
 have enough memory so native decoding is needed as PC has the memory.

That's one bug (or whatever terminology applies), but it's not the one
I run into.  The other one is bug#6442, and that's definitely just a
plain old bug, and it's the reason I've never used native Ogg playback.


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Re: [slim] 802.11n Devices

2008-12-23 Thread CatBus

You'll need to wait 11 months or so before it's even possible to make an
802.11n device, and that's if the ratification process stays on
schedule.  However if you start shopping 18 months from now, I'd say
you're likely to find 802.11n devices on the market, possibly even some
from SlimDevices.

I sincerely hope SlimDevices doesn't join the crowd of manufacturers
claiming to support 802.11n before it's possible to truthfully make
such a statement.


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Re: [slim] 802.11n Devices

2008-12-23 Thread CatBus

iPhone;375006 Wrote: 
 Most importantly, its not really needed for what the Squeezeboxes do at
 this time.

I disagree here.  Sure, if bandwidth were the only consideration, they
don't even need to use 802.11g.  But there's range considerations too. 
Considering that they've got new portable devices (Controller, Boom) and
users are already fighting with range issues within the confines of
their own houses (see comments in bug#6085), it would be an
improvement, at least in some cases.  And it'd probably be a noticeable
improvement for the original poster too.

Maybe not enough to justify the per-unit cost, but it'd be an
improvement.  If I were SlimDevices it certainly wouldn't be my biggest
priority, but it'd still be on the list.  If the list included
technologies that do not yet exist, such as 802.11n...


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Re: [slim] Syncing problems with 7.3

2008-12-22 Thread CatBus

Those reporting SBC/Transporter sync issues should keep an eye on this
bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6442


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Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware

2008-12-16 Thread CatBus

If space in the firmware were the only limiting factor, that would be a
decent solution--but as Robin points out, vendors refusing to license
codecs is a much more serious issue.

But I have to ask: what's wrong with server-side transcoding?  I mean,
if it plays, it plays, right?  As of SqueezeCenter 7.3, you can
FFWD/REW within transcoded tracks, so I can no longer think of anything
you actually lose by transcoding.  I'm curious--is there any advantage
anymore to native playback?


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Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware

2008-12-16 Thread CatBus

aubuti;371522 Wrote: 
 I would think that native playback is still an advantage when running SC
 on underpowered hardware, like a lot of NAS units or ancient PCs that
 are put out to pasture as music servers.

Ah I hadn't considered the NAS angle, thanks.  I think that must be the
only advantage of native playback anymore, then.


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Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware

2008-12-16 Thread CatBus

Steve Bernard, Jr;371521 Wrote: 
 AAC licensing is fairly straightforward with a per-unit fee

Ah, I should say vendor refusal to license codecs according to terms
that are acceptable to Logitech.  Frankly I'd balk at licensing AAC
for every device sold if my marketing demographics indicated only 8% of
my user base needs it (generous guess of people who use AAC/AAC+ AND run
SqueezeCenter on their NAS).


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Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware

2008-12-16 Thread CatBus

ian_heys;371533 Wrote: 
 That doesn't preclude the original premise that others may chose a
 different set of codecs.

I didn't mean to sound overly dismissive of the idea.  I actually like
it (and I've suggested it before:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40412).  I just wanted
to point out that since licensing adds cost/complexity, and transcoding
these days (mostly) removes the need, we're talking about a high
cost/benefit ratio.

For example, thinking about per-player licensing, let's say you can buy
an optional AAC codec pack for your SB3 that includes the licensing cost
of the codec.  But wait a sec...you have three SB3's.  So if the codec
is licensed per device, you actually need to be charged for three codec
packs, right?  How would Logitech enforce this to the satisfaction of
the vendor?  Invent their own DRM scheme?  Etc, etc.  That's the sort
of question that may help explain why Ogg Vorbis is supported in the
firmware even though it's a fairly uncommon format.


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Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware

2008-12-16 Thread CatBus

y360;371574 Wrote: 
 The wish for more encoding formats, support for additional DRM schemes
 and integration with new music services will probably be forthcoming in
 a new SB4 platform with improved hardware

I can't see how new hardware can fix what is essentially a legal
problem.  Unless it's a robot lawyer.


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Re: [slim] A Bit Of Tongue-In-Cheekiness

2008-12-16 Thread CatBus

Dogberry2;371640 Wrote: 
 Oh great! Thanks for planting that in my subconscious! Now tonight I'll
 probably have a nightmare about some $5000/foot cables strangling me
 because I'm using FLAC instead of WAV. . . .

Don't worry about it.  WAV cables have a wider turn radius because
they're solid rather than stranded (so it'd be nearly impossible to
stangle someone with them), FLAC cables wouldn't strangle you for using
FLAC, and AIFF cables cost $6000/foot.  But just in case, you can tell
the difference between the three types by both the presence and
authority of the cable.


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Re: [slim] Positive ReplayGain and Clipping

2008-12-15 Thread CatBus

For those not tracking this bug closely, it looks like a server-side
solution has been implemented, which is certainly a big improvement.


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Re: [slim] Positive ReplayGain and Clipping

2008-12-14 Thread CatBus

Not to throw a monkeywrench into this whole discussion, but couldn't
SqueezeCenter quickly scan its entire database for the maximum amount
it will need to scale back positive ReplayGain values, and then apply
the same adjustment to *ALL* tracks?

Upside: all tracks/albums would again have the same volume, and you
wouldn't have to worry about one album seeming quieter than the rest
because of clipping-avoidance.

Downside: everything could get very quiet, perhaps so quiet that some
small powered speakers wouldn't be able to compensate and achieve the
same volume.

Sounds like a desirable user option to me, though.


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Re: [slim] Positive ReplayGain and Clipping

2008-12-14 Thread CatBus

Oops I guess I wasn't clear.

Let's say you have three albums.  One with -2 album gain, one with -4
album gain, and one with +2 album gain.  The +2 album gain needs to be
trimmed back to +1 to avoid clipping.

Why can't we also trim back the other albums to -3 and -5 respectively?

i.e. we're changing the reference level to below 89dB...


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Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread CatBus

The whole discussion boils down to the fact that the various tagging
specifications are all somewhat inadequate by a number of measures, and
that many applications implement those specifications in quirky,
nonstandard ways.

As a result, many people have collections that, while technically
mistagged, happen to work quite well in whatever music management
software they've been using.  When they start using SqueezeCenter,
which in my opinion stays pretty close to the defined tagging specs,
their tagging quirks are revealed, sometimes unpleasantly.

The rest is just an argument over whose fault this is and who should
make the effort to fix it.


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Re: [slim] Wiki entry on various artists or Compilations

2008-12-05 Thread CatBus

Philip Meyer;366946 Wrote: 
 Perhaps an alternative solution to your situation would be to add Diana
 Krall as an additional album artist for that one track

No, you'd need to make Diana Krall the album artist for all tracks on
the album.  I run into this problem all the time in my collection and
it's pretty easy to fix this way.  As far as I'm concerned it's not a
problem in SqueezeCenter, which simply doesn't have enough information
to work with until you do this.

The downside is that ALBUMARTISTSORT is currently unsupported, so
unless you have another track in your collection with both ARTIST and
ARTISTSORT (but NOT ALBUMARTIST) defined for the particular artist, it
will sort wrong.  Argh.


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Re: [slim] Transporter/SB3 Display Life

2008-12-04 Thread CatBus

From what I've read, VFDs tend to dim with age rather than fail
catastrophically, and they are favored by consumer electronics
manufacturers for devices with long real-world lifetimes (10 years and
longer).  However, I don't know specific longevity figures for these
particular displays, so I can't say.

Personally, I use the PowerSave plugin to make sure the displays are
turned off when not in use.  It just doesn't feel right to leave it on
all the time.


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Re: [slim] Wiki entry on various artists or Compilations

2008-12-04 Thread CatBus

I'd go at it like this:

The COMPILATION tag is used to determine whether an album is a
compilation (various artists) or not.

If the COMPILATION tag is not available, SqueezeCenter uses the
following logic to guess whether or not an album is a compilation: If
all of the tracks on an album share the same ARTIST or ALBUMARTIST tag,
then that album is considered to be a non-compilation.  Every album that
does not meet this requirement is considered to be a compilation.

I think there are also some exceptions for albums where all the tracks
aren't stored in the same folder, but all of the exceptions to the
above logic are pretty fringe cases, and you'd have to ask someone
other than me.


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Re: [slim] 7.2.1 Responsiveness

2008-11-22 Thread CatBus

pablolie;362561 Wrote: 
 Am I the only one observing random, but serious, performance issues on
 7.2.1?

I'm certainly not seeing any of this.  Except for the SqueezeCenter web
interface, this all sounds like normal wireless network flakiness.  Do
any/all of the problems go away when you connect wired?


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Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-21 Thread CatBus

Random Lurker;362243 Wrote: 
 It is just frustrating because I have other existing setups that provide
 exactly the behavior I want based on tags I have carefully scrubbed -
 and I can't even achieve that behavior in SC even by adding tags.

I think the CustomScan and CustomBrowse plugins mentioned above will
likely help you quite a bit.  If no standard tag exists for the data
you'd like to track, creating your own custom tag is much less likely
to create conflicts than repurposing an existing standard tag--because
when you repurpose an existing tag, you are relying on the quirks of a
particular implementation, which can change at any time.


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Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread CatBus

Random Lurker;361933 Wrote: 
 other albums I have in my library by U2 do not appear under the letter U
 - rather they are randomly displayed in the Various Artist section.

Let's stop right there, one thing at a time.  As far as I know, there
is NOTHING in the various artists logic that would cause an album to
show up under Various Artists when every track on that album is
tagged with the exact same artist.  So let's start there and once
that's solved work towards the rest.

So find an example album and verify that the ARTIST tag for every track
on that album is exactly the same.  If you spot a problem in the
tagging, then it's a tagging problem.  If your tagging is right, then
we're looking at a SqueezeCenter bug.  I have to say that I'm inclined
to believe the former, as what you're trying to do is very simple and
I've been doing it for years through multiple versions with no
problems.  But maybe there's something else very unique about your
setup that's causing bugs just for you and nobody else.


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Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread CatBus

I'd file a bug then.  This should work, and I'd go so far as to say this
DOES work for almost everyone, so the good news is that it's probably
something very very simple that's not going to come out until someone
asks the right question.  You're likely going to need to provide some
scanner logs to the SlimDevices support team so they can figure out why
the scanner's not reading your tags right.


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Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread CatBus

FWIW I have compilations with ARTISTSORT tags defined for the artists,
and I have other non-compilation albums by the same artist, and do not
see these issues.  I think it's a red herring.

It may matter of two ARTISTSORT tags for the same ARTIST don't match,
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Re: [slim] WPS support, what is that

2008-11-19 Thread CatBus

Dang, my RockBox experience led me to think WPS meant What's Playing
Screen.  A sort of markup language for a completely user-customizable
Now Playing interface.  Poo!


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Re: [slim] better way to enter wireless key??

2008-11-18 Thread CatBus

rov;361138 Wrote: 
 well i recently upgraded my router to draft-n, so practically the entire
 neighborhood can see our wireless network.  i have several pcs on the
 wireless side and all are locked down as tight as i know how - mac
 filtering, no ssid broadcast, and wpa2-aes wireless key.  which means i
 either have to do the same for the sb3s or connect them over ethernet,
 but that's really not an option.
 
 so, i guess the answer is i don't really want to share my internet
 connection or my personal files :-)

FWIW, I think this would make a good feature request.  I agree long
passwords are no fun to enter via the remote.

A randomly-generated 63-character WPA2/AES setup is as good as you can
get with your typical home setup (the only improvement would be
periodic password rotation, which is more of an enterprise feature). 
MAC filtering and SSID hiding do not actually improve security, and in
the case of SSID hiding can actually make your computer less secure. 
In the best-case scenario, they are useless.


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Re: [slim] better way to enter wireless key??

2008-11-18 Thread CatBus

aubuti;361153 Wrote: 
 SSID hiding doesn't make your computer any less secure.

Actually it does.  When you've got a computer configured to connect to
a hidden SSID, your computer essentially broadcasts the SSID it would
like to connect to, in an attempt to connect.  Now if you take that
computer to another location, it's still broadcasting the hidden SSID
it would like to use.  Someone in the know could sniff that SSID and
quickly set up an access point using the same SSID, your computer would
automatically connect, and then they could sniff unencrypted traffic,
redirect DNS, all sorts of things.  It's not too different from the
sort of malicious wireless networks that have already been seen in some
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Re: [slim] better way to enter wireless key??

2008-11-18 Thread CatBus

toby10;361203 Wrote: 
 but I'm curious as to why this would also (possibly) make a WiFi
 more flaky?

The 802.11i specification amendment states that a computer can refuse
to communicate with an access point that doesn't broadcast its SSID. 
This clearly isn't done very commonly, but there are many scenarios
where this could come into play and may trip over
driver-or-hardware-specific variations.

My guess is that the machine tries to do a periodic reconnect, or tries
to roam due to signal fluctuation, and suddenly decides to be strict and
not associate with the access point (which is a perfectly acceptable
response according to the specs so nobody would consider this a bug). 
It would appear like you were just working fine and then it suddenly
stops.  It's probably fixed by a reboot, or turning wireless off and
on.  Or broadcasting your SSID ;)


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Re: [slim] better way to enter wireless key??

2008-11-18 Thread CatBus

Goodsounds;361238 Wrote: 
 something more than 25 percent of home wifi installations are
 unencrypted...

I'd honestly be surprised if it's not higher.  Technically, a wide-open
network isn't necessarily unsecure (you can use captive portal-style
authentication, for example, and not allow access from the WLAN to the
LAN, but that's how a hotel or business might set it up, not your
typical home user)

Goodsounds;361238 Wrote: 
 at some point the intrusion protection becomes more of an inconvenience
 than it's worth

Absolutely.  And with wireless tech, you even have to work hard to set
up completely ineffective security.  To carry the house analogy way too
far, WEP isn't easy and it's like never bothering to lock your doors. 
Hiding your SSID isn't easy and it's like assuming nobody can see your
green house as long as you water your lawn.  The shame is that wired
security is easy because it's tied to physical security, but wireless
security is hard.  And it's wireless tech that's popular with the
general public, and wired tech that the techies use.  No clear solution
in sight.

Goodsounds;361238 Wrote: 
 If someone wants to break into my system to listen to Jethro Tull, I'm
 ok with that.

If that were the only risk, you should be okay with that.  You always
need to assess your personal risk.  Some people live several miles from
any other dwelling or road.  Do they need to secure their wireless? 
Probably not.  Some people live in apartment buildings with several
people they don't even know within range.  Probably a wise choice.

For what it's worth, the primary risk isn't to the data on your
computer--it's to your potential legal liability and/or violation of
the terms of service with your ISP for things other people do using
your network.


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-08 Thread CatBus

MrSinatra;357815 Wrote: 
 tell me, whats a legal war?

That was probably a hypothetical question, but here's a real although
greatly simplified answer.  International law is comprised of
treaties signed by various countries around the world.  Basically if a
country signs a treaty promising not do perform action X, and then they
perform action X anyway, then action X is a violation of the treaty, and
illegal.  I don't like the term international law myself because it
creates the impression that this law is being imposed on nations from
some outside entity like the UN, and that's not really true.

The UN Charter, for example, is actually a treaty (which the US has
signed), and part of that treaty is that member states agree not to
engage in military aggression without first getting UN approval.  So to
answer your questions, defensive wars are one sort of legal war.  If
Iraq attacked the US, the US would be totally within their rights to
fight back.  So US military action in that hypothetical war would be
legal and Iraqi military action would be illegal, because the Iraqis
were the aggressors.  Now, if Iraq managed to convince the UN Security
Council that the US posed a threat to the world community, or presented
some sort of looming humanitarian disaster, they could attack the US
once they had a UN resolution authorizing the attack, and that would
also be legal.  There are some other cases involving coming to the aid
of an ally that's been attacked, etc, but that's the general gist of
it.

So with regard to the most recent war between the US and Iraq, only
half of that war was truly illegal.  The US attack was not authorized
by the UN, and therefore violated a treaty and was illegal.  The
Iraqis, however, were (and still are) fully within their rights to
defend their country against the country that invaded them.  This if
why Kofi Annan, the current US-backed Secretary General of the UN,
considered the invasion to be illegal.  Hope that helps.

Now, there are some other angles on this, such as the complete lack of
any consistent enforcement mechanism--which leads to justifiable
accusations of case-by-case hypocrisy.  We've also gotten UN approval
in the past (for the Korean War) when it wasn't necessary, creating an
impression that UN approval is needed for all wars (it isn't).  There
are also many conservatives who think the US should withdraw from the
UN, and if that were the case then maybe we could attack whoever we
wanted legally (I doubt it--there are still lots of treaties out
there).

So in simplified terms, the US broke a treaty.  News at 11 ;)


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Re: [slim] enough election off topic discussions

2008-11-08 Thread CatBus

As the most recent offender, I apologize and promise to keep it to
myself.


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Re: [slim] Why do I need the SqueezeCenter server to play my MP3 files?

2008-11-01 Thread CatBus

RudolfJan;355615 Wrote: 
 What I would like: use the Squeezecenter software to configure playlists
 and album info files. Store these on the NAS, make the Squeezebox
 connect to the NAS to retrieve these info, just like my simple cheap
 MP3 player can do.
 
 Why would this be difficult to achieve?

Here's why it will never happen--SqueezeCenter does more than store a
database of your tags, and far more than any cheap (or even expensive)
MP3 player could do.  For example, it draws every pixel on all of your
units' displays.  If SqueezeCenter was stripped down to a tags
database, among other things, you wouldn't be able to see what was
playing.  Or synchronize multiple players.  That sort of thing.

The SlimDevices units are thin clients, designed to have something
smart at the other end of the network or they're more-or-less useless. 
Big advantages of this design are simplicity, longevity, and
upgradability.  The disadvantage is when someone doesn't want something
smart at the other end of the network, there's not enough power in the
end-units themselves to do what you want.  Sorry, that's all there is
to it.

As others have suggested, you may be able to accomplish something like
this with SqueezeNetwork or Internet services like MP3Tunes now or
someday in the future.


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Re: [slim] Dissapointed - 7.2.1

2008-10-24 Thread CatBus

Is there any chance your neighbors decided to buy a new wireless-N
router around the same day you installed 7.2.1?

As far as I can tell, 7.2.1 was the most trivial upgrade ever released.
Not a lot of changes, so not a lot is there to break.  Your symptoms
sound like your wireless network is getting clobbered.  The fact that
you were getting hiccups and crashes before indicates this problem may
have been slowly brewing for a while...SqueezeCenter is as stable as
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Re: [slim] Hard drive storage suggestions

2008-10-23 Thread CatBus

ModelCitizen;352612 Wrote: 
 What is reason that SqueezeCenter only allows the user to select one
 folder?

Can't you just set up some symlinks within the folder pointing to all
of the drives?


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Re: [slim] Hard drive storage suggestions

2008-10-23 Thread CatBus

ModelCitizen;352667 Wrote: 
 I imagine it might something to do with the cross-platform nature of the
 server

I'm guessing it's not anything so exciting.  I imagine the only big
roadblock is they'd have to rewrite the Browse Music Folder UI to
accomodate multiple paths.  It currently seems designed for navigating
a single directory tree.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive storage suggestions

2008-10-23 Thread CatBus

dlsdo;352676 Wrote: 
 Alright.  Help me out here please.  What are symlinks?  Could you talk
 me through the steps necessary to direct SC to scan more than one HD?
 
 Sorry for the lack of understanding.

A symlink is just a filesystem shortcut to another location.  Note that
it is NOT the same thing as a GUI-style shortcut you'd create on your
desktop.  I only know for sure about how to do this in Linux, but I'm
pretty sure the syntax is the same on a Mac.

In Linux, you type ln -s target link name.  For example, if your
SC music folder is at /home/username/music and you want to add a drive
at /dev/sdb, you type ln -s /dev/sdb /home/username/music/sdb

I believe Vista recently added symlink-ish capabilities to Windows, but
I'm not sure how to use them.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Access Point / Router Compatability - Duet update plse !

2008-10-23 Thread CatBus

I'd think it'd be better to maintain a list of routers that DON'T work
well than a list of those that do.  I mean, what are we really talking
about here?  Five routers that don't work very well until you turn off
the vendor-proprietary MIMO features?

Any list of working routers is bound to be woefully outdated and
incomplete.


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Re: [slim] IPv6 Support

2008-10-15 Thread CatBus


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results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53800

Question: Should IPv6 be supported?

- Yes
- No
- I Don't Really Care
- What Is IPv6 Anyway?


IMO IPv6 suffers from nobody wants to be the first penguin off the
iceberg syndrome.  Everyone's just peering over the precipice waiting
for everyone else to go first.

I have a hard enough time entering a 63-random-character WPA key into
my devices.  Imagine entering an IPv6 SqueezeCenter address.


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Re: [slim] Wied Squeezebox

2008-10-14 Thread CatBus


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: Wired only Squeezebox is a good product?

- Yes
- No


SlimDevices originally sold wired-only SB3's, and you're correct that
they cost US $50 less.

However, I think the advantages of producing only one flavor of device
for all users outweighed any other considerations, and they killed off
the wired-only line.

Someone may be willing to sell you a used one though!


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Re: [slim] Looks like it's up to you

2008-10-13 Thread CatBus

My first suggestion is a follow-up support request to Logitech. 
Occasionally things that should not get dropped do--mistakes happen.  I
don't imagine they are singling you out and only providing excellent
customer service to everyone else.

As for the drift, I'm wondering if you have clock drift on the machine
running SqueezeCenter.  If that's the case, take a look through the
notes on this bug here:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8018 for some suggestions. 
Please note that when your server has a problem maintaining reasonably
correct time, that's not something SqueezeCenter can fix.

I'd also try going back to all default settings in SqueezeCenter, and
doing a factory reset on both players.  This should just work out of
the box, no tweaking required.


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Re: [slim] Looks like it's up to you

2008-10-13 Thread CatBus

The clock doesn't actually have to be accurate, it just needs to
progress at a rate of one second per second.  A quick test would be to
use a trusted clock, and record the system time at the start of the
test and then one day later (by the trusted clock).  Then see how much
time has elapsed during that day according to the computer, and you
know your drift.

It's normal for clocks to drift a little bit.  Ultimately you'd need to
talk to Logitech to figure out if your clock drift was outside
tolerances.

This may also very well be a red herring.  What format is your music,
and what are the specs of your server?


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Re: [slim] Problem with accented characters in playlists

2008-10-13 Thread CatBus

You're likely experiencing this bug:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4578


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Re: [slim] WPA encryption

2008-10-11 Thread CatBus

At least on the IR controllers for the other products, you can mix upper
and lower case.  You just need to hit the button more times to get to
the lowercase options.  You even have full punctuation options.  Not
absolutely sure this applies to the Controller, but I'm pretty sure.


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Re: [slim] Gapless playback

2008-10-10 Thread CatBus

MikeekiM;348725 Wrote: 
 OK...  so gapless is only supported when transcoding is not involved,
 and when you are not synching with other players...  is that correct?

Actually, no.  Gapless has worked fine with transcoded Ogg-FLAC since
I bought my first SB3 in the SlimServer 6.x days.  I always transcode
my Ogg's because there's a sync bug with native Ogg decoding.  You are
correct that gapless sync doesn't work unless you're using the 7.3
nightlies though.

If there's a problem with gapless and transcoding, it's limited to
specific formats like WMA, but I can't say why that would be.

MikeekiM;348725 Wrote: 
 And the gapless play is by default (i.e., there is no software switch
 that I need to set to get gapless playback)...

Correct.


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Re: [slim] Gapless playback

2008-10-10 Thread CatBus

WMA supports gapless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gapless_playback

However, I'd believe that proprietary formats tend to be poorly
documented, and therefore there are more likely to be mistakes in
encoders and decoders not written specifically by the vendor.

Also, there may be factors where a perfect decoder would require more
resources than small devices have, so space-saving compromises may lead
to imperfect decoding.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Interference - Channel Change not had impact, any other ideas?

2008-10-08 Thread CatBus

radish;347950 Wrote: 
 That's entirely expected, if you run more than one AP in the same area
 they really must be on different channels or they'll stomp all over
 each other. I'm not sure what the SBR firmware has to do with it...

Agreed.  The whole point of channels (originally) was to allow multiple
access points to provide continuous coverage over a wide area, by using
non-overlapping spectrum.  If they overlap, you'll run into problems,
even if they're on the same network.


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Re: [slim] SB3 suddenly stops connecting after 2 years

2008-10-08 Thread CatBus

If you can reset your router back to factory defaults and then set it up
again, this may help.  Some setting like MAC filtering may have gotten
accidentally turned on and may be getting in the way.

Agree WPA is the way to go unless you really need to run a low-security
WEP network for some other device.


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Re: [slim] Apple's FairPlay DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?

2008-10-07 Thread CatBus

toby10;347729 Wrote: 
 I completely agree with protecting the artist and record labelI'll
 gladly support a DRM scheme to protect the artists and labels as long
 as it is not specifically tied to one manufacturer or one source or one
 service.

But, the thing is, DRM does not protect the artist or record label,
strong copyright laws do.  Pirates can and will circumvent every DRM
scheme created, but you can still prosecute them.  That's how the law,
not DRM, protects content owners.  And because human judges are
involved, all sorts of fair use exceptions are protected
too...theoretically at least...

So as long as we're hypothesizing about the perfect DRM, we have to
come to terms with two uncomfortable facts: DRM will always be broken,
and DRM doesn't ever actually protect artists and labels.  Other than
that, though, I don't have a problem with it either ;)


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Re: [slim] SB3 suddenly stops connecting after 2 years

2008-10-07 Thread CatBus

Could be limited to wireless.  Try it wired and see what happens.

If it's just wireless, try your standard channel/placement shuffle to
see if maybe something changed in your environment (ie your neighbor's
new wireless-N router is clobbering your SB3).  If the wireless is
truly dead, and you truly need wireless, then you can still buy a
wireless bridge and not have to throw the SB3 away.

Seriously if it works wired and you want to throw it away, I'll pay the
shipping for you to send it to me instead ;)


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Re: [slim] Apple's FairPlay DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?

2008-10-07 Thread CatBus

Goodsounds;347793 Wrote: 
 We have strong copyright laws now - they have been ineffective against
 music piracy. Everyone knows that.

Weird.  I keep reading stuff like this that makes me think the law is
being used to fight piracy in countries with strong copyright laws. 
Maybe these news articles are wrong?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5434/is_200804/ai_n25420961
http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20080429.html
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/13516.cfm

But I was unable to find any articles indicating that DRM had prevented
a single act of piracy from happening somewhere.

So when I say that the law fights piracy and DRM does not, I am not
saying that the law is a PERFECTLY effective tool--I am just stating
that it's the ONLY effective tool.


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Re: [slim] Apple's FairPlay DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?

2008-10-07 Thread CatBus

Goodsounds;347804 Wrote: 
 Hey Nick - Baloney. If I pay, everyone else should too, I don't mind
 what needs to be done to keep things fair. Maybe what I should learn
 from your comment is that mine is a minority view?

That's a false choice.  Everyone should pay (if that's what the
artist/label wants, that is).  Nobody's arguing that point.  The
disagreement is about DRM, which is totally unrelated to the subject of
paying.  I think the minority view that you hold is that you believe
DRM is more effective at stopping piracy than wearing a fish on your
head.  Everyone else thinks they are equally effective against piracy
(as in: they aren't), but at least the fish doesn't piss off your
legitimate customers.


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Re: [slim] Apple's FairPlay DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?

2008-10-07 Thread CatBus

Goodsounds;347811 Wrote: 
 But we all know what the problem is. What percentage of people's music
 collections, and new music acquisitions, are purchased? This percentage
 is too low, and this is what needs to be fixed.

Sure, but how does DRM solve this problem?  Not at all.  Seriously, if
studio execs started wearing fish on their heads it would have an equal
impact on this problem.


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Re: [slim] Apple's FairPlay DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?

2008-10-07 Thread CatBus

Goodsounds;347814 Wrote: 
 Maybe we're on the same side of the fence.
 
 I have no preference for DRM, but I have less affinity for the current
 state of affairs. I'd like to see a healthier music business, most of
 all for the artists, and I don't care much how it's done.  So long as I
 can keep that fish off my head. (I have no connection with the music
 business whatever, I'm just a lifelong fan).
 
 Fighting DRM and grousing about it is like shooting the messenger. It's
 not the problem, it was simply the first effort to fix the problem. A
 poor first effort, for now, for many other reasons we are all familiar
 with. 
 
 As I said in an earlier post, come up with an answer and you will
 deserve the fame and fortune you will receive.

Fair enough.  I've already expressed my preference for the legal
system, so I'd honestly say I PREFER the **AA's sue everyone legal
campaign over DRM, because:

1) Unlike DRM, it could theoretically actually stop an act of piracy
2) Unlike DRM, it could have a deterrent effect on future piracy
3) Unlike DRM, it theoretically allows the full range of fair use

So basically my answer would be a modification to the sue everyone
campaign but with some basic preliminary fact-checking before the suit
is filed.

Now I bet it's my turn to be flamed ;)


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Re: [slim] SB3 suddenly stops connecting after 2 years

2008-10-07 Thread CatBus

Doesn't sound good but I wouldn't give up hope yet.  I'd do all my
testing using the least complicated possible scenario.  In this case, a
crossover cable directly from the SB3 to the SqueezeCenter.  (Don't use
a normal patch cable!)

Set both the server and client to static IP's on the same subnet
(sounds like you've already done this but bear with me).

If you can't get it working like that, you may have yourself a
paperweight.

If you can, just work your way backwards until you find the problem. 
Switch your wireless network to an open network, and then try it
wireless.  Then add the WEP key (or, honestly, switch to WPA if you
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Re: [slim] Wireless Interference - Channel Change not had impact, any other ideas?

2008-10-07 Thread CatBus

In addition to changing channels, there's:

- Router placement.  Generally, put it up high with few dense materials
between it and the SB3.  Brick walls, tile, and metal things
(ventilation ducts, appliances) are barriers.  Some plaster walls have
a nice wire mesh in them, pray you don't have that.
- Look for other interfering items other than WAPs.  That'd be
microwave ovens, old 2.4GHz cordless phones, Bluetooth devices.  Get
them out of the way.  Buy new phones for your neighbor if you have to.
- Antenna positioning  replacement.  Try another antenna orientation,
or if you feel like it, get a different antenna for your router. 
Directional antennas really help if your SB3 is in a fixed location,
but may not help with your Boom.
- Bitrate limiting.  This should probably be suggestion #2, right after
using a wired connection.  I know your music is in FLAC format but you
may just have to go with 192k MP3, or maybe lower.  It's a per-player
setting so you don't have to do this everywhere.  Despite the rumors,
lossy encoding is not the devil.
- Wireless repeater/bridge/other creative range extender ideas.  Hey,
if you have the money...


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Re: [slim] Apple's FairPlay DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?

2008-10-06 Thread CatBus

andyg;347512 Wrote: 
 Nothing is stopping anyone from writing a plugin though.

Writing a plugin, no.  Telling anyone where they can get that plugin,
or how to write their own...yes.  It's DeCSS T-shirts all over again.


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Re: [slim] How many boxes do you have?

2008-10-03 Thread CatBus


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Question: How many boxes do you have?

- 1
- 2-4
- 6-8
- 8-10
- 10


Jonnio;346631 Wrote: 
 I am curious how many receivers people have run before they started
 running into sync or bandwidth issues.

I imagine everyone would run out of useful places to put the boxes long
before they started running into bandwidth issues.  I have 3 and
honestly can't imagine where I'd even put more than 5.


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Re: [slim] Duet with Two Boxes, won't sync properly..?

2008-10-02 Thread CatBus

You may actually be seeing this:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6442

This bug is highly dependent on the format of the music being decoded,
so I am currently working around a similar situation in my setup by
disabling native decoding and configuring SqueezeCenter to transcode
everything to FLAC.


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Re: [slim] If I had bought the SB3 first....

2008-10-01 Thread CatBus

ModelCitizen;346074 Wrote: 
 The duet took me less than three minutes to set up.

It takes me three minutes just to type in my WPA key...


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Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?

2008-09-16 Thread CatBus

Nonreality;340869 Wrote: 
 Why run it as a service instead of a login?  Just wondering.  I use
 Spicefly's loader for SC and MusicIp to load it in the right order and
 it has always worked perfect.  If you use musicip you might want to
 give it a try.

By the sound of the OP, he (like me) has SC running on a headless
server off in a closet somewhere.  Having to log in to launch SC is
much more of a pain than having it just work.


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Re: [slim] Squeezecenter interface painfully slow... alternatives?

2008-09-15 Thread CatBus

pfarrell;340625 Wrote: 
 Linux is huge in embedded systems, for example every
 Tivo, every Linksys WRT54G router, etc.
 
 Its simple, the computer as toaster folks will never knowingly
 install
 Linux. They will never choose Linux.

To summarize, quite a large section of the population uses Linux
without even knowing it every day, and likes it.  But they'd never
install it.  I'd even go so far as to say they'd never install Windows
or OSX either.  They buy a box, and if that box comes with Windows,
Linux, or OSX is pretty much irrelevant.  If you are comfortable
installing Windows, then I'd say you're already in the minority that's
comfortable installing Linux.


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Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?

2008-09-15 Thread CatBus

It's been working here for every version since 6.5, including 7.2.  Can
you provide some more details about your setup?


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Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?

2008-09-15 Thread CatBus

Ahh, sorry.  I'm working with Linux here but I have some
non-SqueezeCenter Vista experience that may be applicable.

Why aren't you running the service with the Local System account (this
should be the default)?  Do you need a specific set of credentials to
access your library?


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Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?

2008-09-15 Thread CatBus

Wow, that's an interesting choice (and not in a good way).

You may already know this, but when UAC is enabled, even when you're
logged in as an admin, you don't actually have admin access until you
go through this elevation process (typically via a UAC prompt).  If
you're trying to run the SqueezeCenter service as an admin account, it
may actually be running as a non-elevated admin, which actually has no
special privileges at all.

So for testing purposes, you could disable UAC (Control Panel/Admin
Tasks/Local Security Policy...uhh, I forget...and disable the policy
that says Run all administrators in admin approval mode.  If it
suddenly works, you have your answer--SqueezeCenter and UAC don't get
along.  Which is too bad, because I'm one of those freaks who thinks
UAC isn't all bad.

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Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?

2008-09-15 Thread CatBus

pski;340799 Wrote: 
 So I should choose: music or AV?

No, you should just be able to exempt certain filetypes from AV
scanning.  *.MYI and *.MYD I believe.  Certain firewall software has
been known to interfere as well.  You could disable it temporarily to
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Re: [slim] The Microwave effect

2008-09-05 Thread CatBus

MeSue;337035 Wrote: 
 Has anyone here been able to overcome the problem of microwave ovens
 interfering with the wireless signal?

Changing channels won't do anything--they interfere all over the
spectrum.  The ONLY thing you can do is shielding and placement.  Newer
microwave ovens are better shielded, so simply getting a new oven may
help.  If you happen to have a nice dense brick wall anywhere, you may
be able to contain the EM pollution from the microwave a bit.  If you
can, move the microwave, player, or router in such a manner that the
microwave is nowhere near either wireless device.  Or maybe consider a
toaster oven.

You could also get some Cat5 cable and fix your wireless problems
permanently...


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Re: [slim] The Microwave effect

2008-09-05 Thread CatBus

pfarrell;337192 Wrote: 
 ModelCitizen wrote:
  This could be frightening stuff.
  I'm still not entirely comfortable with a house full of wifi and
 little
  children (with associated growing brains). My wife much less so.
 
 WiFi is microwave. Same stuff. With enough power, it can cook raw
 meat.
 Its supposed to be safe in low dosages.
 
 As I said upthread, there is tons of stuff in the 2.4gHz range, from
 microwave ovens, WiFi, Bluetooth, ZigBee and others

When considering environmental hazards, please always remember that
toxicity is a function of dosage, ALWAYS.  At a high enough dosage,
water is toxic.  At a low enough dosage, certain poisons actually have
medicinal value.  People get excited about wifi because it's
radiation.  But remember that the color blue is radiation too.

That said, I'm pretty sure my very first microwave magnetized all the
knives in the drawer next to it.  But that was the kind with the hand
dial for setting the time, like a washing machine, and it weighed about
100 pounds.


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter gapless syncing seems much worse than SlimServer

2008-08-31 Thread CatBus

FWIW most remaining gapless sync issues seem to be fixed right now with
the brand new sync code in the 7.3 betas.  Please try it out and report
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