Re: [slim] Empty genres
RonM wrote: > Sorry, I meant that the ghost genres aren't in the full list in MP3tag > when sorted by genre. So there are no tags attached to files.This is a > complete guess but do you have any cue files? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
Paul Webster wrote: > You said that the ghost tag(s) was not there when you set LMS to scan an > empty system. > Did you try scanning a system with just one album? > > I don't think that the word "Folk" appears in LMS source code except for > in an totally unrelated comment > https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/55f8e3f3d584baf6a3979a13fd23c7ef8e845d59/HTML/EN/html/scriptaculous/unittest.js#L508 > > While it is possible that the Github search missed something or it is in > a binary ... I suspect not. > > So it does appear to be coming from a file that the scanner is > scanning. > > Perhaps it extracts a tag from a mysterious file and then a bit later > decides that the file is not valid for including ... but by then has > already remembered the tag. > Who knows. > > Detailed logging in the scanner might show something. Sorry, I meant that the ghost genres aren't in the full list in MP3tag when sorted by genre. So there are no tags attached to files. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
You said that the ghost tag(s) was not there when you set LMS to scan an empty system. Did you try scanning a system with just one album? I don't think that the word "Folk" appears in LMS source code except for in an totally unrelated comment https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/55f8e3f3d584baf6a3979a13fd23c7ef8e845d59/HTML/EN/html/scriptaculous/unittest.js#L508 While it is possible that the Github search missed something or it is in a binary ... I suspect not. So it does appear to be coming from a file that the scanner is scanning. Perhaps it extracts a tag from a mysterious file and then a bit later decides that the file is not valid for including ... but by then has already remembered the tag. Who knows. Detailed logging in the scanner might show something. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
Paul Webster wrote: > That is new and useful information since it does show that it is really > coming from a file that is being scanned and not being left over in some > mysterious database/file. > > Does scanner.log show anything? > Did you increase the logging level? I'm not sure why it shows it is really coming from a file that is being scanned -- none of the music files appear to have the ghost tags - the LMS result is that the genre category is created but no files actually have the tag. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
RonM wrote: > I had done that. The ghost tags don't show up. Not surprising since tags > are attached to files/tracks, and LMS is reporting no files with the tag > (same library). That is new and useful information since it does show that it is really coming from a file that is being scanned and not being left over in some mysterious database/file. Does scanner.log show anything? Did you increase the logging level? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
kidstypike wrote: > Load the whole library in mp3tag, sort on genre header, scroll down to > folk/rock or whatever. Also look at the tag type column for tags other > than v3.2. I had done that. The ghost tags don't show up. Not surprising since tags are attached to files/tracks, and LMS is reporting no files with the tag (same library). It seems to me that the question is where the tag label is coming from if it is not attached to a file/track. I'm close to giving up, it's really just a minor annoyance. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
RonM wrote: > I'm not sure what to do with the Extended Tags thing. I can look at > these, which reads tags attached to files/tracks, but what am I looking > for exactly? I can hardly look at every one of the 46k files. And I > don't know which files to look at because the genre category comes up as > empty. > > R. Load the whole library in mp3tag, sort on genre header, scroll down to folk/rock or whatever. Also look at the tag type column for tags other than v3.2. *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/Pi screen/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DAC HAT > Edifier *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > Topping E30 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Echo Show 8 *Garage* - Rpi4/pCP/AP mode > Touch > Edifier *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi, 1xDAC32, 1xCORE32 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
I wonder if there is a hidden file creating the problem. Create a new folder that is empty and point LMS to just that folder for music. Clear and rescan. Does the mystery genre appear? Point LMS to just one album folder, clear and rescan. Does one genre appear for that album? That might help figure out what is going on. Wishing best of luck! P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
kidstypike wrote: > Well I'm pretty certain that LMS doesn't make this stuff up just for > kicks, so these genres must be in the tags, or symlinks to files > elsewhere, or playlists with redundant tracks. > > I'll ask the same question as @SlimChances asked, have you looked at > "Extended Tags" in mp3tag? > > 36827 I'm not sure what to do with the Extended Tags thing. I can look at these, which reads tags attached to files/tracks, but what am I looking for exactly? I can hardly look at every one of the 46k files. And I don't know which files to look at because the genre category comes up as empty. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
Paul Webster wrote: > You could turn on detailed logging for the scanner and do another clear > & rescan > > Also , are the genre exotic? Exotic? Nah, just things like "folk/rock"; where this one occurred I redid the genres in MP3tag as "folk\\rock", setting up two genres. No instances of "folk/rock" remain according to MP3tag, and I've searched and searched to find any, but the category still remained after the virgin scan, as well as after delete-and-rescan operations. There are several of these kinds of things, as well as some other oddities that presumably came with the files years ago. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
SlimChances wrote: > You might want to try deleting contents of the cache . On my Linux box > it is here /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache.(make sure you stop the > server first sudo service logitechmediaserver stop, I think ) Not sure how to do that within pCP, I've no Linux capabilities at all. You can remove the cache from within the LMS dialog in pCP, but I'm not sure what the implications are. And since the library was scanned after a completely new installation, presumably whatever is in the cache was added at that time, which means it got the genre names from somewhere. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
You could turn on detailed logging for the scanner and do another clear & rescan Also , are the genre exotic? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
Paul Webster wrote: > But if LMS found a genre in a file then wouldn't it link that genre to > the found file? > > Is there a chance that a database is not wiped completely or removed > during a "clear & rescan"? My thought exactly. Since no files are being identified within the genre, where is LMS getting the genre name? Since the problem persisted after a complete virgin scan on a new device, it means that it's getting it from somewhere within the folder being scanned, presumably. I note the suggestion about playlists, but there are no playlist names with genre in them, and the playlists themselves point to files in the music folder, none of which appear to have the genre names. Not sure how that might work. I will look into extended tags, but if the tags are specific to files than those files should show up within the genre and don't. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
You might want to try deleting the cache . On my Linux box it is here /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache. Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.1 - 1633378390 @ Mon Oct 4 23:28:51 CEST 2021 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.30.0 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Touch connected by Optical to Sabaj A4 amp and Energy bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
This is very much a long shot, but is it possible that a plugin adds some genres to the list? I ask because about a year ago I had a mystery about old and obsolete interface skins appearing in a brand new LMS installation. It turned out that they were added by a plugin that was no longer supported. That discussion begins 'here' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113727-How-to-download-detailed-information-about-the-currently-played-track-via-html=1005690=1#post1005690) and continues for the remaining two pages of the thread. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
But if LMS found a genre in a file then wouldn't it link that genre to the found file? Is there a chance that a database is not wiped completely or removed during a "clear & rescan"? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
RonM wrote: > Mine is quite similar, although I've stripped all APE tags so don't read > those. > > R. Well I'm pretty certain that LMS doesn't make this stuff up just for kicks, so these genres must be in the tags, or symlinks to files elsewhere, or playlists with redundant tracks. I'll ask the same question as @SlimChances asked, have you looked at "Extended Tags" in mp3tag? 36827 +---+ |Filename: genres02.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36827| +---+ *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/Pi screen/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DAC HAT > Edifier *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > Topping E30 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Echo Show 8 *Garage* - Rpi4/pCP/AP mode > Touch > Edifier *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi, 1xDAC32, 1xCORE32 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
Blackfiction wrote: > Are you using online music libraries like spotify, qobuz, etc? Maybe > some genres get imported from online music files? No. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
mherger wrote: > > It remains a mystery. No files/tracks are assigned the genre, but the > > genre still shows up in the genre list, but this is reported as > "empty". > > Did you try a full wipe & rescan? I not only did that, I moved the entire operation from a Win10 pc to a PCP, and then of course did a full library build. This was after the genre tags were rationalized. Made no difference. After some further changes (on the PCP) I did a full wipe and rescan. Also made no difference. As noted, no actual files are identified as being in the genres, so no tags attached to a file are being read. I assume if there were the files/tracks would be identified. The issue is that a genre appears to be on a list, which is displayed under genres, but no actual files are thus tagged. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
Are you using online music libraries like spotify, qobuz, etc? Maybe some genres get imported from online music files? Living: EtherRegen -> Ultrarendu -> Benchmark DAC2 HGC -> Benchmark AHB2 -> ATC SCM19 v2 & Sennheiser HD650 Kitchen: SB Touch -> Audio Pro Addon T10 gen2 Kids rooms: SB Booms Bedroom: SB Boom & SB Radio Controls: iPeng, Material Skin & LMS via internet Server: Windows 10 Pro with LMS 7.9.3 Spare: 2 SB Touch, 1 SB3, 2 SB Radio Blackfiction's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
RonM wrote: > It remains a mystery. No files/tracks are assigned the genre, but the > genre still shows up in the genre list, but this is reported as "empty". > All APE tags are removed, and only ID3v2 are being reported. There is no > discrepancy with v1 tags. And no files at all are associated with the > ghost genres. > > R. No discrepancy with v1 tags? Does that mean there *are* v1 tags? These should be removed. My mp3tag settings below. 36816 +---+ |Filename: mp3tag.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36816| +---+ *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/Pi screen/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DAC HAT > Edifier *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > Topping E30 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Echo Show 8 *Garage* - Rpi4/pCP/AP mode > Touch > Edifier *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi, 1xDAC32, 1xCORE32 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
It remains a mystery. No files/tracks are assigned the genre, but the genre still shows up in the genre list, but this is reported as "empty". Did you try a full wipe & rescan? ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
Not sure if this would help but did you look at Extended Tags under View in MP3Tag. Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.1 - 1633378390 @ Mon Oct 4 23:28:51 CEST 2021 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.30.0 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Touch connected by Optical to Sabaj A4 amp and Energy bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
slartibartfast wrote: > Which tags are left. I remove all tags apart from ID3v2. You might still > have ID3v1 tags. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk It remains a mystery. No files/tracks are assigned the genre, but the genre still shows up in the genre list, but this is reported as "empty". All APE tags are removed, and only ID3v2 are being reported. There is no discrepancy with v1 tags. And no files at all are associated with the ghost genres. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
It's confusing. NO files/tracks are assigned the abandoned genre name, but the name still shows up in the genre list, but when selected it shows as "empty". Work with MP3tag has stripped APE tags, and shows all other tagging is reconciled. There is no difference between the versions of the tagging systems. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
It's confusing. NO tracks/files are assigned the abandoned genre. The genre shows up in the genre list, but is "empty". I think this means that the genre categories are somehow retained, even though no tracks/files are tagged with the genre name. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
My confusion is that NO troublesome tags remain attached to tracks/files. Nothing is tagged with those genres. It is just that the genre category remains in the genre list generated by LMS, although no files/tracks are linked to the tag. The LMS report is that the category is present but is empty. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
RonM wrote: > I went over for advice to the MP3tag forum, and it was suggested that > the residual tags might be linked to APE tags somehow. Received helpful > advice on to strip these out using MP3tag, which I did. There are no > remaining APE tags. > > Sadly, no joy. > > The same residual tags are showing up after having done that adjustment > on some 244 files, and then doing a full rescan of the library. It's > clearly something in the tag structure, not a holdover within LMS, as I > did a complete conversion to a PCP server, with a complete new scan and > a different file path. Still the same result -- a number of genres are > shown, but they are empty. The genre is identified from somewhere, even > though there are no files with that genre tag. > > This is a mystery. > > R.Which tags are left. I remove all tags apart from ID3v2. You might still have ID3v1 tags. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
I went over for advice to the MP3tag forum, and it was suggested that the residual tags might be linked to APE tags somehow. Received helpful advice on to strip these out using MP3tag, which I did. There are no remaining APE tags. Sadly, no joy. The same residual tags are showing up after having done that adjustment on some 244 files, and then doing a full rescan of the library. It's clearly something in the tag structure, not a holdover within LMS, as I did a complete conversion to a PCP server, with a complete new scan and a different file path. Still the same result -- a number of genres are shown, but they are empty. The genre is identified from somewhere, even though there are no files with that genre tag. This is a mystery. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
I've had a similar problem before. There are various versions of tags, not always immediately visible in MP3tag. If you delve around you'll find how to view them all. Hopefully that's your answer. Take care of your tongue. It is in a wet place and can easily slip. Lounge: Naim NDX with Touch as controller, Naim NAP 180, NAC 82, NAPSC, HiCap, Shahinian Arc speakers Kitchen/outside: Chromecast, Azatom iBigBoy 2 (500W) And tons of other stuff... all run from LMS and controlled via Material Skin on any nearby device and a Touch. ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty genres
I was tidying up genres in preparation for migrating to a PiCorePlayer from my old and barely functional Win10 server. So I accelerated that, thinking the new scan with the new server would solve the problem. Sadly, no. Still empty genres. I think this means the genre category is in some way a lingering presence in the music files, although invisible in MP3tag. Any ideas? R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Empty genres
I'm on an endless task of rationalizing genres, after years of neglect. I'm trying to reduce the number of genres by eliminating overlap and correcting obvious stupidities. Perfection is not the goal. In a number of cases I have completely eliminated a genre and re-assigned the tracks to other genres. However, the genre often but not always remains, but shows as empty. So no tracks have that genre, but it still stays in the list. This is after a full rescan. Why is this? Ron LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
