Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
Goodsounds;325429 Wrote: I'm not sure I understand the question, but I wonder why it would or should matter to me. As between these two competing product families, I made one choice, and others are welcome to make whatever choice they wish to. Am I missing something? You do. It doesn't. Yes you did. Yes they are. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
autopilot;325475 Wrote: Especially from that thread, which is bursting full of trolls and idiots and is very misleading about both products. That guy who goes by the name of Jaffacake is best avoided too, he seems to have a personal vendetta against this company and its products - bit of a wierdo and has been proven a liar. If i was starting out again trying to decide, that thread would not be of any use too me as it stopped being objective after about page 1 and clearly its just a cat fight (sorry, -cage- fight *cough*), although it is pretty entertaining at times. There are plenty of decent comparisons over the net that do actually provide objective details of the differences in the systems. I have my opinion (especially about the costing), but it makes no difference to me what system you by. Its ultimately the about music and your enjoyment of that which matters. These systems of both very good, but they are are means to an end, not the end itself.Yes Jaffacake is not to be trusted and I basically got into trouble here for saying that early on. I caught him in every forum there was putting down the SB and putting out lies about it. For some reason I got reprimanded for saying as much here. I do tend to call it as I see it and too bad if the powers don't see it that way. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
kdf;325381 Wrote: If you are able, try them both out and see which fits you the best. In fact, given that you HAVE that option, looking for advice from others is far less useful /QUOTE] Especially from that thread, which is bursting full of trolls and idiots. Thats guy who goes by the name of Jaffacake is best avoided too. -- autopilot *Server:* SC7.1b (Windows Vista 64) *Players:* Squeezebox 3 (main room) / Squeezebox Receiver (bedroom) / Softsqueeze (office). *Amps:* Cambridge Audio 640a (main room) / Trends TA10.1 Class-T / Logitech 5.1. *Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef Cresta 1's (bedroom) / Logitech 5.1's. *Remotes:* Harmony One (IR) / 1 Beta SB Controller / 1 Official SB Controller. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
Nonreality;325491 Wrote: Yes Jaffacake is not to be trusted and I basically got into trouble here for saying that early on. I caught him in every forum there was putting down the SB and putting out lies about it. For some reason I got reprimanded for saying as much here. I do tend to call it as I see it and too bad if the powers don't see it that way. You got into trouble for making up false information about me and accusing me of stuff that simply wasn't true. Likewise, this thread appears to be going the same way. I've reported the 2 previous threads accordingly. I am not a liar and have never been proved to be so. Please, let's keep this civil and stick to the facts - there is no need for a personal attack on an individual who highlights weaknesses in a product. -- jaffacake Ben - eco conscious techie and author of Jaffa's Green Blog - http://www.jaffacake.net jaffacake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3206 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
Just been on another forum (not Sonos) and a claim was made that Squeezebox owners/supporters are reluctant/dismissive of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one to purchase. When questioned on this, it came to pass that nobody had ever seen a post where a Squeezebox owner/supporter had actually stated there was no reason to try both systems. However it was stated that when a Sonos owner/supporter suggests people try both systems, Squeezebox owners/supporters don't actually fall over themselves replying to the post in agreement. As a result, can I ask the following questions ? Q: As a Squeezebox owner/supporter do you support the idea of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one suits their needs best ? If you are against such a suggestion, could you state your reasons why ? Thanks -- GlenL GlenL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
GlenL;325363 Wrote: Just been on another forum (not Sonos) and a claim was made that Squeezebox owners/supporters are reluctant/dismissive of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one to purchase. When questioned on this, it came to pass that nobody had ever seen a post where a Squeezebox owner/supporter had actually stated there was no reason to try both systems. However it was stated that when a Sonos owner/supporter suggests people try both systems, Squeezebox owners/supporters don't actually fall over themselves replying to the post in agreement. As a result, can I ask the following questions ? Q: As a Squeezebox owner/supporter do you support the idea of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one suits their needs best ? If you are against such a suggestion, could you state your reasons why ? Thanks What forum is this then? I dont think you would find any around here that would be against you trying both, it's a good idea to try anything if you can first. Trying both Sono's as well a an SB product would be very sensible. The Squeezebox is a better all around product, that does more yet costs less, It's a no-brainer for -most- people. That said, there are people i know who i would recommended the Sono's too over the Squeezebox. Try both if you can. -- autopilot *Server:* SC7.1b (Windows Vista 64) *Players:* Squeezebox 3 (main room) / Squeezebox Receiver (bedroom) / Softsqueeze (office). *Amps:* Cambridge Audio 640a (main room) / Trends TA10.1 Class-T / Logitech 5.1. *Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef Cresta 1's (bedroom) / Logitech 5.1's. *Remotes:* Harmony One (IR) / 1 Beta SB Controller / 1 Official SB Controller. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
autopilot;325368 Wrote: What forum is this then? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1006811page=17 Specifically post 492 -- GlenL GlenL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
A classic false claim. The comparisons come up often even on these forums, and I've never noticed any shyness to suggest an open comparison by trying both. In the specific case you point out, the claim is made that owners/staff/developers... well, staff make it perfectly clear that support IS there to try it out for your self just by having the 30-day policy at all. owners, well, I've never seen anyone come out AGAINST it, but to somehow suggest that by not jumping in and wildly supporting the act of comparing is somehow tantamount to not supporting the idea is ludicrous. developers, are pretty much too busy working and testing to be spending time on these forums, let alone other ones. They are more active in forum land than I've seen for most cases, but it is much the same lame thing to make a claim based on a lack of action. Speaking for myself, if something is obvious, I feel no need to jump in and say yes, do that just to make sure no one can claim I'm against it. Basically, take any claim on a forum with a grain of salt and always consider the source. Both products have different features and suit different needs in different ways. If you are able, try them both out and see which fits you the best. In fact, given that you HAVE that option, looking for advice from others is far less useful -kdf GlenL wrote: autopilot;325368 Wrote: What forum is this then? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1006811page=17 Specifically post 492 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
GlenL;325363 Wrote: Q: As a Squeezebox owner/supporter do you support the idea of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one suits their needs best ? Of course, yes. Anything else doesn't make sense to me, but I'm sure its possible, for any product like this, to dig up some reference to someone whose opinion is a little bit more biased than facts can support. But a hard fact is that Slimdevices offer a 30 day money back guarantee. AFAIK this is in the US, I'm not sure how it works internationally. How easy it is to get a loaner might vary. When I bought my TP (in Denmark) I made a phone-call to a dealer I found on Google. He immediately offered to send me a TP on loan and the only expense I had was to pay for return postage. Btw its his policy so he'd done it with an SB3 or Duet also. kdf Wrote: Basically, take any claim on a forum with a grain of salt and always consider the source. Indeed, and this also holds in the real world. It seems that many who has hands on experience of one product and only superficial knowledge of the other falls into the trap of promoting the former by discussing the weaknesses of the latter. I've experience this from a local Sonos dealer (their way of promoting is not exclusive for Sonos, they have a lots of other products. The dealer is very popular but I never liked them, still once or twice a year I pop by to see if there has been any improvement) -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
Don't worry about what forums say about comparing and just do it if you feel the need. Logitech is very cool about comparing and it will just cost you freight. I don't know the Sonos but it was out of my league price wise at the time so after reading a lot about the SB I just dove in. I now think the sonos is probably very good for people that want the simplest way to do this without worries about sound and expansion. Kind of like Itunes and the ilk. Keep it simple and not a worry about customizing and adding cool features. I like the open source not because I can add to the talent but I can use the cool addons that talented people create. It's all in what you really want to have I believe. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Evaluating Both Sonos Squeezebox Before Buying - Your Thoughts
I'm not sure I understand the question, but I wonder why it would or should matter to me. As between these two competing product families, I made one choice, and others are welcome to make whatever choice they wish to. Am I missing something? -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
