[slim] How can I have albums sorted chronologically?

2011-12-15 Thread Kvaks

I'll take an interest in any device, any plugin, any skin that can do
this: Select an artist/band and have their albums sorted
chronologically.

It seems such a simple feature, yet I can find it nowhere in the
Squeezebox universe (that I've tried) nor in many other media player
software for that matter. I guess I'm crazy for prefering chronological
sorting.

I'm currently using the web interface and SqueezeCommander to control
my squeezeboxes. Both only give alphabetical sorting of an artist's
albums. Erland of plugin fame suggested it might be possible with
CustomBrowse and one of the CB WebUI skins, but CustomBrowse (which I
have) seems to be made of XML-nightmares and it's not something I think
I can manage to tinker with, so I'm looking for other options.


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Re: [slim] How can I have albums sorted chronologically?

2011-12-15 Thread flattermann

Kvaks;676978 Wrote: 
 I'll take an interest in any device, any plugin, any skin that can do
 this: Select an artist/band and have their albums sorted
 chronologically.
 
 It seems such a simple feature, yet I can find it nowhere in the
 Squeezebox universe (that I've tried) nor in many other media player
 software for that matter. I guess I'm crazy for prefering chronological
 sorting.
 
 I'm currently using the web interface and SqueezeCommander to control
 my squeezeboxes. Both only give alphabetical sorting of an artist's
 albums. Erland of plugin fame suggested it might be possible with
 CustomBrowse and one of the CB WebUI skins, but CustomBrowse (which I
 have) seems to be made of XML-nightmares and it's not something I think
 I can manage to tinker with, so I'm looking for other options.

Actually, SqueezeCommander should sort albums of an artist by year.
That's even the default, but it can be changed to have the albums
sorted alphabetically (Settings / Sort Albums by Name).

Please make sure that Sort Albums by Name is NOT enabled in
SqueezeCommander's Settings.

If it is not enabled, but the albums are still not sorted by year,
please drop me a line, because that would be a bug.


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Re: [slim] How can I have albums sorted chronologically?

2011-12-15 Thread aubuti

Kvaks;676978 Wrote: 
 I'll take an interest in any device, any plugin, any skin that can do
 this: Select an artist/band and have their albums sorted
 chronologically.
Would it be good enough to view albums sorted by artist/band and year?
That's quite easily done with the default web ui skin and several other
interfaces.

I can see how that would be cumbersome for people with huge
collections, as the grouping (not the sorting) is by albums rather than
artists. But I find it works great with my modest collection of about
600 albums.


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Re: [slim] How can I have albums sorted chronologically?

2011-12-15 Thread Mnyb

Yes albums inside an artist folder shoul be posible to sort by year !

There is an exeptionally neglected bug report about it...

Drummroll http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 enjoy and
vote for it :) it's only 80 votes


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Re: [slim] How can I have albums sorted chronologically?

2011-12-15 Thread Kvaks

flattermann;676980 Wrote: 
 Actually, SqueezeCommander should sort albums of an artist by year.
 That's even the default, but it can be changed to have the albums
 sorted alphabetically (Settings / Sort Albums by Name).
 
 Please make sure that Sort Albums by Name is NOT enabled in
 SqueezeCommander's Settings.
 
I wasn't using the latest version of SqueezeCommander, but updated now
and found this option. But like you said, it seems to only apply to the
main built in menus, nowhere else. I understand what you say about
CustomBrowse, but is it possible to use chronological sorting when
accessing through Browse by Selected? I don't ever use the main menus
(they're too slow to scroll through when you have 3000 albums), but I
very often use the Browse by Selected feature (by, say, press and hold
on a song or an album and pick Artist: ... in the pop up menu).

BTW, kudos for not using -reverse- chronological order (newest first),
which many do.

aubuti;676982 Wrote: 
 Would it be good enough to view albums sorted by artist/band and year?
 That's quite easily done with the default web ui skin and several other
 interfaces.
 
 I can see how that would be cumbersome for people with huge
 collections, as the grouping (not the sorting) is by albums rather than
 artists.

I'm not sure what you mean. Could you be more specific? :-) (I have
around 3000 albums and don't use the main menus, except to browse by
genre (but that's just because there's no genre-search in the WebUI).)

Mnyb;676983 Wrote: 
 There is an exeptionally neglected bug report about it...
 
 Drummroll http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 enjoy and
 vote for it :) it's only 80 votes
Oh, I think I actually gave that bugreport a vote years ago! The
suggestion in the comments there about adding an ALBUMSORT tag is
interesting, especially if it will work in any contest (main menus,
browse-by-selected, custombrowse).


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Re: [slim] How can I have albums sorted chronologically?

2011-12-15 Thread flattermann

Kvaks;676994 Wrote: 
 I wasn't using the latest version of SqueezeCommander, but updated now
 and found this option. But like you said, it seems to only apply to the
 main built in menus, nowhere else. I understand what you say about
 CustomBrowse, but is it possible to use chronological sorting when
 accessing through Browse by Selected? I don't ever use the main menus
 (they're too slow to scroll through when you have 3000 albums), but I
 very often use the Browse by Selected feature (by, say, press and hold
 on a song or an album and pick Artist: ... in the pop up menu).
 
 BTW, kudos for not using -reverse- chronological order (newest first),
 which many do.

Ah, ok, you are right, it seems that it does not work there.

Could you please open a ticket in the tracker?
http://www.squeezecommander.com/trac/

I'll see if I can make the option work in these menus as well.


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Re: [slim] How can I have albums sorted chronologically?

2011-12-15 Thread InTheBath

I wanted this for a while and a problem with compilation albums (I tag
each songs original release year) meant that it didn't work
satifactorarilily.
I bit the bullet and entered an ALBUMSORT tag which means everything is
chronological within each artist, exactly as I wanted and I think as you
desire.

My albumsort tag was firstly made by copying the YEAR tags from track 1
of the non-VA albums and the highest value from the Various Artist
albums. I then went through and updated the oddities - mostly from
people who released two albums a year. I went for 2011a and 2011b for
example.

M.


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Re: [slim] How can I have albums sorted chronologically?

2011-12-15 Thread aubuti

aubuti;676982 Wrote: 
 Would it be good enough to view albums sorted by artist/band and year?
 That's quite easily done with the default web ui skin and several other
 interfaces.
 
 I can see how that would be cumbersome for people with huge
 collections, as the grouping (not the sorting) is by albums rather than
 artists. But I find it works great with my modest collection of about
 600 albums.
  Kvaks;676994 Wrote: 
  I'm not sure what you mean. Could you be more specific? :-) (I have
  around 3000 albums and don't use the main menus, except to browse by
  genre (but that's just because there's no genre-search in the WebUI).)  
It's simple. In the main menu (on the web ui, SB Duet Controller,
iPeng, probably SqueezeCommander, etc) go to My Music  Albums. You get
a list of albums. I think the default sorting is by album title across
all artists (yuck!), but there are options to sort by Artist / Year or
Artist / Year / Album, which is essentially what you are asking for. 

The main difference is that in album browsing the unit of observation
is an album, instead of an artist. So when browsing albums you get a
very flat presentation of your library, just as if the physical disks
were arranged on a shelf. Even though each line is an album, the
_sorting_ can be by Artist / Year (in chronological order, not reverse
chronological). When browsing by artists (which is what I think you're
saying you want), you would browse artists and then go a level deeper
to see the individual albums. 

Is that clearer?


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