Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Thanks again - but I am really struggling with setting up the Duet system to play from LMS 7.9 on the laptop via ethernet. I've tried a Duet factory reset but can't seem to force it to use ethernet - I only got the option once in many screens of setting up on the Controller, and then it didn't connect. I *have* finally managed by trial and error got it to connect to LMS via router's wifi network,netow but this is not really what I want. The Touch is definitely a lot easier to setup for ethernet than the Duet ! I give some more detail of the setup and hopefully one of you kind folk will talk me through how to get this to work ... Home wifi = mynetwork, autochannel Router wifi = O2network, channel 3 Ethernet cables running from both laptop Receiver into the router. Tried disabling wifi in laptop to force LMS connection to be ethernet only, but couldn't get Duet to connect. Re-enabled laptop wifi connected to O2network, and also selected this in Controller as network to connect to. This has finally got the Receiver to connect to LMS and it's working fine now. But how do force the Receiver to connect via ethernet ?? Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S3 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
swayzak wrote: Thanks again - but I am really struggling with setting up the Duet system to play from LMS 7.9 on the laptop via ethernet. I've tried a Duet factory reset but can't seem to force it to use ethernet - I only got the option once in many screens of setting up on the Controller, and then it didn't connect. I *have* finally managed by trial and error got it to connect to LMS via router's wifi network,but this is not really what I want. The Touch is definitely a lot easier to setup for ethernet than the Duet ! I give some more detail of the setup and hopefully one of you kind folk will talk me through how to get this to work ... Home wifi = mynetwork, autochannel Router wifi = O2network, channel 3 Ethernet cables running from both laptop Receiver into the router. Tried disabling wifi in laptop to force LMS connection to be ethernet only, but couldn't get Duet to connect. Re-enabled laptop wifi connected to O2network, and also selected this in Controller as network to connect to. This has finally got the Receiver to connect to LMS and it's working fine now. But how do force the Receiver to connect via ethernet ?? I suppose I could use O2 router wifi at the evening do (and maybe use inSSider to check for a clear channel to use) for wireless playback. Would take Touch as backup though. Getting receivers to change from wireless to wired can be a pain. It's been a while, but I think I last did it using the net-udap utility... I'd say, if the Touch is working as you want wired, to go with that. You can try the net-udap approach... it's not TOO hard, but can take some playing around to figure it out. When you tried to reconfigure using the controller, did you ever try a full reset of BOTH the receiver AND the controller? tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Thankyou Yes it is turning out to be a pain ! However the Touch players are SO good I'd hate it if one of them got damaged. I have now succeeded ! By following this (found by googling) .. http://support.logitech.com/article/11914 I will give this a go a few more times before the wedding to make sure it's robust. Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S3 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Yes and Yes :) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Thanks And would the same apply if I try the Duet receiver (my preferred player in case someone spills a pint over it - Touch is more valuable to me !). Can Controller talk to Receiver over router wifi to make sure it is setup to networl via ethernet connection ? Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S3 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Thanks again for the idea of using my old router - got things working perfectly tonight ! However I am slightly confused want to make sure I get this as robust as possible (to minimise risk of disaster on the night). I plugged both the Touch laptop into router via ethernet (but the router wifi is still enabled). I then set Networking in Touch to ethernet and it seemed to link up OK. Both wifi ethernet were still enabled in the laptop. This method seemed to cause problems e.g. Touch seemed to show playlist correctly but always said stopped at the top no sound. I then disabled the wifi in laptop to try and force it use ethernet only (although I assumed it would use ethernet by default anyway given the choice), reconnected Touch via Networking to Touch and it works great. However it would be great to able to control the tunes via Squeezecommander on my phone during event, so I then re-enabled wifi on laptop, connected laptop phone to router wifi SSID - and this works great. Is it stable to have laptop both wifi enabled ethernet connected to router ? I am a bit concerned that the hotel wifi environment will no be as controlled as my house I might channel interference etc. to muck up remote control ? Also, will the connection between laptop server / router / Touch remain via ethernet even though wifi is enabled in laptop / router / Touch ? Basically I want the stability of ethernet for laptop-router-Touch connection, and also ability to control playback via wifi with phone ... Hope that makes sense ! PS This is actually for my own wedding :) Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S3 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
congratulations on wedding. To control with your smartphone, you just need WIFI on the router turned on. The laptop and TOUCH are both ethernet connected to the router. You can have wifi off on the laptop. But your smartphone needs to connect to the WIFI SSID/password (if any) of the spare router you're using. (didn't follow all this thread, but I assume all your music is on laptop or on HD connected to laptop. That is, you'll not be using any streaming from internetso you are not using the WIFI of the facility at allyou're just using the wifi of the spare router (which creates its own WIFI network) and even that is just for controlling. The Laptop will send music to the TOUCH via the ethernet cables and the spare router). *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 Squeezelite *Spares:* Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone6 iPadAir2 (iPeng8 Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Fixed ip's in the router is only really half the solution if that causing trouble for you you don't get rid of the dependency of the routers DHCP . So iether use DHCP or just exclude some adress space from the DHCP pool and setup true static adresses on the devices and the server . Why I'm doing it's because all my wired players and computers ( including the server ) is connected by simple switches and my router is just connected to one of the switches if router goes down absolutely nothing happend to the wired part of the network if play local files I'm not even likely to notice . Duet reciver had some rare bugs depending on the nature of your network it would not always reconnect properly via DHCP . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Mnyb wrote: .. Or some lateral thinking bring your own router and two cables have your own intranet , that it can't see the Internet does not stop it from doing its network stuff between your devices . Code: Hmmm .. like the sound of that as I will have a spare router after today. How would I do this ? Presumably just run 2 ethernet cables out of router - 1 to laptop 1 to a Touch. I assume this wouldn't just work (plug play-like) and I would have to tinker about with settings to get it to work. What would I need to do ? Apologies for all the questions but I find networking a bit confusing sometimes.. Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S3 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
toby10 wrote: Yes, should just work, plug and play. Did you have to tinker with router running Duet on your home network? No not really - I ran the Duet same as I now run my 2 Touches. Wirelessly, with static IP addresses set in router software. So with this wired set up via router intranet, when I turn the laptop Touch on, the music library should just appear as available to Touch without any messing around with IP addresses ? Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S3 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Yes. Most don't bother with fixed IP's for SB usage, fewer still with players, I never have. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
swayzak wrote: Presumably just run 2 ethernet cables out of router - 1 to laptop 1 to a Touch. I assume this wouldn't just work (plug play-like) and I would have to tinker about with settings to get it to work. What would I need to do ?.. Yes, should just work, plug and play. Did you have to tinker with router running Duet on your home network? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
toby10 wrote: Yes. Most don't bother with fixed IP's for SB usage, fewer still with players, I never have. Thanks I did eventually set fixed IPs up as it seemed to stabilise Duet performance. I then did the same for Touches (but I never tried them with dynamically allocated IP addresses - maybe they would be more resilient, as I gather they have a more stable overall network performance than the Duet). Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S3 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
In addition to Mnyb's post: the IP address settings in Win7 can be changed here: (You can find this by opening the Network and Sharing Center from Control Panel or system tray and clicking the item 'Change adapter settings' in left column.) 17570 +---+ |Filename: how to change adapter settings.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17570| +---+ reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
.. Or some lateral thinking bring your own router and two cables have your own intranet , that it can't see the Internet does not stop it from doing its network stuff between your devices . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
You can setup static IP adresses in both ends . I'm unsure if you really need a twisted to cable or if any patch cable would do ,to be sure bring a switch . ... But try at home first so that you be sure that it's working . If your only going to play local files there is no need for Internet sharing , unless you also want to use wireless on the laptop to pickup some internet radio or service . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Thanks both I am very thick when it comes to this - could you give me more details on how to set this up (will obviously try at home first). Point noted re. Receiver. This is a Win 7 laptop. Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S3 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
Hi I went to hotel where I am organising music for an up coming event, and the wifi is (predictably) atrocious. Can run music via Receiver / Touch by connecting these devices directly to laptop via ethernet ? If so can someone please give me detailed instructions (I've never done it befoe). This solve a major headache. I've tried directly out from laptop via mini-jack, and it doesn't sound great. Thanks Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S3 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
I've never used direct connection as far as I can remember but for me this has to relate with setting up Internet sharing on the laptop. Which OS do you use ? The Touch has auto-sensing capability so you should be able to use any ethernet cord and plug it straight into the PC (no need for a cross-over cable or a switch in-between) If wifi is atrocious then I would suggest leaving the Duet at home, since the remote uses wifi. (even in ad-hoc mode I've had problems w/ the Controller.) HTH 4 SB 3 iPeng (iPhone + iPad) SqueezeLite Squeezebox Server 7.8.1 (Debian 7.5) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld ShairTunes by StuartUSA Local Player, BBC iPlayer, SwitchPlayer by Triode Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Duet receiver or Touch via ethernet ?
The touch can also be setup from its own screen . If the network has no DCHP ( the faculty that doles out IP adresses automatically ) Touch will eventually ask for one hence you can do a static IP setup . You can go to your network card settings in the pc ( sorry no win 7 pc at hand can't post pictures ) Get to the IPv4 settings untick DHCP set for example IP 192.168.0.1 and subnet mask 255.255.255.0 When the Touch ask for an IP use for example 192.168.0.*2* and subnet 255.255.255.0 if it ask for DNS or gateway give it the server/PC IP 192.168.0.1 You can try this with and without your firewall on Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
