Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Hi, The ipeng app is definitely worth its money. But I realised today that the cover art thumbnails on album level (browsing artists - albums) are not correct. If I go directly to ipeng themed squeezecenter via safari then the right album cover is displayed. So at least SqueezeCenter has the right thumbs for the albums cached. Could it be that ipeng app has its own cache? I rebuilt my complete squeezecenter database yesterday and maybe now some ipeng cached thumbs are pulled by different albums. How could I fix this in case there is a cache problem on ipeng app? -- th80 th80's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22097 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Loving the Ipeng but have a question. My computer is my server, so which mac address do I add to turn it on through Ipeng settings, the router or the computer mac address, or does this only work if you have a dedicated server? -- abelincoln abelincoln's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12875 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
abelincoln;460266 Wrote: Loving the Ipeng but have a question. My computer is my server, so which mac address do I add to turn it on through Ipeng settings, the router or the computer mac address, or does this only work if you have a dedicated server? You need to use your computer's ethernet address. WOL works by broadcasting packets to all machines and the network card itself identifies the packet as that's for me and powers on the computer. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
pippin;413986 Wrote: Well, Dynamic Playlists work in iPeng now as well :-) I noticed that shortly after posting. Thank you for the update, it's great! I will check out the link you mentioned, which seems to relate to the GUI. I need to figure out how to build the underlying functionality of sending and receiving commands to a TCP/IP socket. If I can do that, then I can interface with a TCP/IP server on the automation system fairly easily. If anyone has any hints, I would love to hear them... -- jwmelvin jwmelvin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2564 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Well, Dynamic Playlists work in iPeng now as well :-) If you are going the SC plugin route, have a look at this, it will give you some description about how to write menus for the SB Controller and iPeng. The nice thing is that anything you write this way will work on both (plus SqueezePlay, which could help you with your touch screen). http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezeCenterSqueezePlayInterface -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Why is it that some CDs/rips won't play all the files in the folder when I press play on the first track using iPeng? Quite a few of my CD folders do this: I press play in iPeng, but only the first track plays - not the rest of the CD. When I check the list in iPeng, only the first track is listed. I guess this is a tagging issue, but I can't find anything obvious wrong with the mp3s in question. Any ideas? I have iPeng 1.1 on an iPhone 2G. -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
pippin;414059 Wrote: How do they show up in the SC web interface? Do you have two items for the Album in the albums list? Edit: Or did you select the SC play other tracks option? Edit2: Here's a link for the two items issue: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61881 I don't use the albums list to navigate. I navigate using my selected Music Folder, then select the folder containing the CD I want to hear, then select the first track. Most of the time this works fine, and the whole CD will play. However, sometimes only the first track will play (even though all the files reside in the same folder, and are tagged identically in terms of artist name and album name). All the files show up fine in iPeng before I press play, it's just when I want to play the entire folder something goes wrong. Let me know if you need screenshots from my iPhone, perhaps that will make this easier to understand. Thanks! (Oh, and the albums in question show up fine in the Web Interface, and also play fine if I initiate playback from the WI) -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
oivindi;414091 Wrote: I don't use the albums list to navigate. I navigate using my selected Music Folder, then select the folder containing the CD I want to hear, then select the first track. Most of the time this works fine, and the whole CD will play. However, sometimes only the first track will play (even though all the files reside in the same folder, and are tagged identically in terms of artist name and album name). All the files show up fine in iPeng before I press play, it's just when I want to play the entire folder something goes wrong. Let me know if you need screenshots from my iPhone, perhaps that will make this easier to understand. Thanks! (Oh, and the albums in question show up fine in the Web Interface, and also play fine if I initiate playback from the WI) I suspect those folders have subfolders? Unfortunately, it's not possible to play the whole folder content in an easy way in SC without the sub-folders (not sure, maybe somebody recently opened a bug on this?) so iPeng will only play a single track in that case. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
pippin;414116 Wrote: I suspect those folders have subfolders? Unfortunately, it's not possible to play the whole folder content in an easy way in SC without the sub-folders (not sure, maybe somebody recently opened a bug on this?) so iPeng will only play a single track in that case. Sorry, I guess I haven't been clear enough. There are no sub-folders in the folder I choose to play. It's just a collection of mp3s, all on the same album belonging to the same artist. Also, most of these folders containing mp3s play fine, while some don't. I'll post some screenshots tomorrow (if I get the time) to illustrate better what I mean. -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
oivindi;414189 Wrote: Sorry, I guess I haven't been clear enough. There are no sub-folders in the folder I choose to play. It's just a collection of mp3s, all on the same album belonging to the same artist. Also, most of these folders containing mp3s play fine, while some don't. I'll post some screenshots tomorrow (if I get the time) to illustrate better what I mean. OK. could you also post a list of the files that are in the folder? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Hello all. iPeng is wonderful. For picking music, it makes the iPod unbeatable for me. I recently started using a tablet computer occasionally, but the lack of iPeng makes me prefer the touch. Thank you Pippin. I have developed a Crestron (home automation equipment) interface for SC, which now allows me to use the iPod Touch as a remote for the entire system, including source selection and control, volume, and lighting. For two sources, I use a SB2 and a SqueezeSlave on the server. Having the ability to control source and volume on the same page as music is really good for me. (I know that you can do volume in the SB, but that doesn't work for TV, etc.) The problem is that the functionality of my SC module is a joke in comparison to iPeng. It's mostly usable but only a fraction of the way there. (No search, no now playing manipulation, only currently playing cover art). It does have some things I would love in iPeng like dynamic playlist integration (still use iPeng web interface for that sometimes). My point is that I applaud your efforts and discussion because increased control from the iPod is great. I agree with Pippin that one problem with the iPod is the auto-lock (or lack of screen blanking without locking) and would add to that criticism the lack of hard buttons, which means you generally have to look at it to use it, making TV control a little less great. There are a number of devices that you can control via IP (Tivo, SqueezeCenter, Crestron, AMX, ...); perhaps it would be a good idea, as you say Pippin, to develop a plugin for SC that could interface with various things. Then you could put a GUI interface to that plugin to send commands from iPeng, if I understood you correctly. The beauty of the idea for me is that I could do a lot of the parsing and processing on the SC computer, in a Crestron plugin, rather than on my (more and more heavily loaded) Crestron processor. This would take generic commands from the CLI interface and send them to various devices. For me that's Crestron, but other people could directly control a TivO or, as you have been discussing, send IR commands from the SB to an emitter. Okay, sorry to ramble on there, if you made it through. I know nothing about writing plugins for SC, so I'm not really the right person to start this project, but I might start looking into it. Best, Jason -- jwmelvin jwmelvin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2564 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Andy8421;413102 Wrote: Thanks all for the comments. I am definitely not suggesting Pippin butcher the iPeng, but I was thinking of a sister application for AV remotes. As for why anyone should want such a thing - I have 8 remotes in my AV room, one of which is always lost down the side of the sofa. I think Iredtouch is not associated with the manufacturer of the network resident IR driver that it works with, so I may try suggesting to the software author that he looks as whether it would be possible to use his user interface to work with a squeeze unit driving the IR leds. I guess it all depends on how much functionality is in the IR box. In principle the harmony unit should do all of this, but my Wife has given up on it as it is too complex to use, and crestron are out of my budget. I hear you on the remotes. I have 6 different types. With my plugin and iPeng, I now only have one for music. It would be nice to say the same for video but thats a larger nut to crack -- Aesculus Chris Aesculus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Thanks all for the comments. I am definitely not suggesting Pippin butcher the iPeng, but I was thinking of a sister application for AV remotes. As for why anyone should want such a thing - I have 8 remotes in my AV room, one of which is always lost down the side of the sofa. I think Iredtouch is not associated with the manufacturer of the network resident IR driver that it works with, so I may try suggesting to the software author that he looks as whether it would be possible to use his user interface to work with a squeeze unit driving the IR leds. I guess it all depends on how much functionality is in the IR box. In principle the harmony unit should do all of this, but my Wife has given up on it as it is too complex to use, and crestron are out of my budget. -- Andy8421 Andy8421's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
pippin;413078 Wrote: ... I also have been asking for a use-case description because I somewhat lack an understanding on what a more general approach is good for. ... Just my 2cts :-) I too have been struggling with additional use cases for my iTouch and SC. What I have right now is really just about perfect. I suspect that there may be some features I don't use in the area of networked music (currently I use LastFM and my SC library). But today by using iPeng to select music and press the play button, thats all I need to do to control everything from any place in my house. I can turn on/off players, send different music to any one of them or sync them all, change any volume, control associated devices transparently and do this all with a super single UI. Life is good. -- Aesculus Chris Aesculus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Probably I should be more specific. I don't use IRBlaster myself, so I have little experience with this, but from what I can see, can't you only use volume and power with IRBlaster? Or can you configure other commands as well? And another issue: If you use that approach, the states sent by IRBlaster have to match the player's states (volume and on/off) so you can't really control something else without manipulating the player as well. Anything else will require either a new hardware - and here I don't see a big difference to Airremote et al - OR you need a plugin that offers a separate control layer from the physical player's. The latter is what I proposed. iPeng itself can only communicate to the server, after all the iPod/iPhone doesn't have IR and you can't talk to the player directly, so a suitable plugin to communicate to is needed. And when that is done, we can clearly talk UI. I disagree that you can have a generic approach for all UI tasks, after all, you will see that most stuff providing good UIs will have a good portion of this stuff custom coded for specific use cases, look at Airremote or IRedtoch and you see what I mean. So the way to go is to define what we want to do and then we can see how it can be implemented in a generic way so that different plugins that support the use case can support this, but supporting something through a generic UI without looking at the use case will only result in yet another menu. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Once you get past the 8-in-1 learning remotes you need state memory and outcome-based scripting. Even with virtual squeezeboxes, it would be hard to implement scripted actions that dropped a screen, switched on projector, set AV amp to correct inputs etc. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
pippin;413063 Wrote: Probably I should be more specific. I don't use IRBlaster myself, so I have little experience with this, but from what I can see, can't you only use volume and power with IRBlaster? Or can you configure other commands as well? And another issue: If you use that approach, the states sent by IRBlaster have to match the player's states (volume and on/off) so you can't really control something else without manipulating the player as well. Anything else will require either a new hardware - and here I don't see a big difference to Airremote et al - OR you need a plugin that offers a separate control layer from the physical player's. The latter is what I proposed. iPeng itself can only communicate to the server, after all the iPod/iPhone doesn't have IR and you can't talk to the player directly, so a suitable plugin to communicate to is needed. And when that is done, we can clearly talk UI. I disagree that you can have a generic approach for all UI tasks, after all, you will see that most stuff providing good UIs will have a good portion of this stuff custom coded for specific use cases, look at Airremote or IRedtoch and you see what I mean. So the way to go is to define what we want to do and then we can see how it can be implemented in a generic way so that different plugins that support the use case can support this, but supporting something through a generic UI without looking at the use case will only result in yet another menu. I don't use IRBlaster either but looking at the plugin code I only see it dealing with the power changes of the squeezebox and volume changes. Note that it can only use SB2/3 because it depends on the earphone jack to be there so it can send signals to that output, which will be converted to IR signals by another device. Because its IR it has no understanding of the state of the devices it controls so it pretty much has to start with a clean slate and begin at a power off state. Most of the code is dealing with the differences of IR codes for devices and converting SC API's etc into IR codes. In my own plugin I was able to bypass much of this because I am dealing only with one companies devices (networked Denon AVP/AVR's). Since I am using the network protocol and not IR I can not only detect the state of the device, but I can have the device tell the SB what to do (for example if you change the volume on the AMP I tell the SB display to change accordingly). You cannot do that with IR because its one way only. I noticed that the two apps mentioned above where still in beta or test (more than a year). They are trying to be like a Harmony but using the iTouch interface. Both of them need some sort of networked box to convert network commands into IR commands. Because they are trying to be universal its very hard to do. This gets back to the basic question. If you really want to make everything simple (and this is my favorite thing about iPeng as Pippin knows) you want to only have it present you with what you need to play your music. To me thats finding the right music, setting up the correct player, turning on the appropriate amplifier (non Boom devices) and making adjustments to those components as I need (ie volumn/pausing). And lastly shutting everything down when I am done. With iPeng today and using either my plugin (special case) or IRBlaster (more general case) I think this is achievable. iPeng does what it does best, and these plugins deal with all the infrastructure underneath. Plus both solutions work with and without iPeng in case you pick up another remote. Asking iPeng to be a universal remote is going to make it ugly in my opinion and I hope if Pippin goes that route he will always make an iPeng lite as well as a full featured one for those that want it to do more. So are there other things that iPeng could do to make the use of SC more enjoyable? Sure. We all wait anxiously for those features. But I don't think making it a universal remote is such a feature. -- Aesculus Chris Aesculus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Andy8421;413006 Wrote: Pippin, Chris, This does raise an interesting question for Logitech and other box manufacturers who make their money by giving software away and charging for the box. While some may disagree, I think the Squeeze Controller and Logitech Harmony handheld remotes are not in the same league as the iPod touch, either in form factor or usability. Harmony in the UK is twice the price of an iPod touch, and is not without its issues - and many potential buyers already own an iPod touch. Whether Apple realised it at the time or not, they have produced a multi purpose handheld controller that happens also to be an iPod. This could ultimately be a game changer for Logitech and similar for the handheld remote site of their business. Excellent points Andy When I read your post I looked into those apps and was disappointed as well. When I first bought a Plasma TV for my home theater I purchased a Harmony which I no longer use - its a battery hog and not as simple for the rest of the family as it needs to be in my case. I think for the Duet Logitech did a pretty fair job on the controller but compared to an I-touch we're talking another universe An I-pod app to make it into a stand alone universal remote sounds like a fantastic solution : ) E -- yesongs yesongs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21401 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Chris, just to relief you, I don't see iPeng as being as a universal do-anything remote, yet I do want to finally be able to control all music related commands with it, that's why I will add things like a power button for a server and a way to switch to the digital inputs on Transporter from the player interface. The trick is to bury these features in a way they don't clutter up anything in the plain interface while still being somewhat simple to reach. The way is to have items easily or less easily accessible based on the frequency of use. I also have been asking for a use-case description because I somewhat lack an understanding on what a more general approach is good for. I definitely do NOT understand what Airremote et al are good for if they use IR as a channel, and this is also why I am always pretty critical about Multimedia. My experience is that different Media have very different requirements and that mixing those into one system will simply give you a bad system. I'm having a bad time with this approach here in Germany because right now everybody is so obsessed with convergence and video. I'll give you an example: I believe an iPod touch is a VERY good remote for playing music (obviously) because you can access your database, you can manipulate players and playlists and generally you are flexible to show a lot of information and have a flexible use case. Plus - and that's the most important point for me - you can carry it around because I tend to listen to music everywhere: Kitchen, bathroom, sofa, bed... It has one drawback, and that is lack of immediate access because you have to disable the screen saver first. For TV or video, IMHO, the situation is very different. I don't carry my TV around a lot and it does have a big screen to give me all the visual feedback I want. So for a TV, I believe an infrared device is the better solution. I also don't have the problem that it ends up being in another room, since I only use it in a line-of-sight area from the TV screen. So as much as I (would) hate having 25 remotes around, I believe merging these two use cases will result in unnecessary compromises on at least one side and that while even adding additional cost - given the price of simple IR remotes. Just my 2cts :-) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
The concept of a single remote using an iPod touch that was wireless / networked across all my AV equipment sounded very appealing. The suppliers of iRedTouch, Airremote etc. think so too! -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Andy8421;412839 Wrote: Slightly off topic, but have you looked at using the IR capabilities in squeeze products to give iPeng control over other AV devices? To my simple mind, it doesn't seem that much of a stretch. What would it have to do? iPeng 1.1 has some improved support for volume control through IRBlaster, but I think you would want more than that. A programmable keyboard or something? Does IRBlaster support something like that so that it would only need an interface? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Andy8421;412839 Wrote: Pippin, Slightly off topic, but have you looked at using the IR capabilities in squeeze products to give iPeng control over other AV devices? To my simple mind, it doesn't seem that much of a stretch. I was wrestling with my Logitech harmony remote yesterday, which has a beast of a touchscreen interface and thought that the iPeng / iPod type application would be much better. Wouldn't involve any additional hardware except for the IR wand as I think squeeze products (apart from duet?) can drive an IR LED directly. The concept of a single remote using an iPod touch that was wireless / networked across all my AV equipment sounded very appealing. Just a thought. SC works as a server application. When you point an IR controller at a SB it just takes the command and passes it to the server. The server then takes action and actually tells the box what to do. This is that way because any device (controller, SB, web interface, 3rd party plugins, ...) can tell the SC server what they want and then the server sends the commands to the device. So the best way to use iPeng in my mind is for it to send commands to the server (which is what it is doing natively) and have the server direct the action appropriately. There are various tools out there to create plugins for example and some of these also pick up the information within the plugin to communicate to other devices. For example I wrote a plugin that picks up volumn changes from the SB (could be driven by iPeng, SB remote, web ...) and it then communicates to an AVR to actually process the request. In iPeng 1.1 it exposes more server sided functionality without actually having rewritten that code natively in iPeng. Asking iPeng to create new and unique controls that would be useful from SC in general is a sticky slope from a development standpoint. Its better, more efficient and cleaner to do this from the server side. Now having said that I am sure that there are some specific features that might be best done natively and don't have a universal appeal. ie like getting access to native content on the iTouch device. -- Aesculus Chris Aesculus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Chris, actually that was what I meant. However, if iPeng's got to support it, you also need some UI, and just having menus may be a bit too little. Although it has the big advantage that it will work with the Controller and Squeezeplay, too. But you can still re-map menu items to something else and part of this is what the upcoming iPeng 1.2 interface is about. For example, I plan to include a Power button for servers that can shut down a server using the SvrPowerControl plugin and will wake it up by sending a WOL packet. Of course this is all proprietary but once it works you could as well define some standardized interface. Another idea I had, especially with local playback in mind, was that you could connect players to the server that are not really players. They would have only part of the capabilities, most notably not the actual playback capabilities, but you could for example use the interfaces for play, pause, skip, volume... If a plugin did that and used these commands to drive an external unit, it's a way to wrap your whole entertainment into the SB architecture. IRBlaster is going into the direction but not fully so. Your plugin does the same but only in connection with an amp connected to a player, if I understand it right. But theoretically you could write a plugin that wraps a TV control into this, since essentially all you need for a TV is power, skip and volume and then you could have a player TV controlled through your SC based equipment. Cool? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
pippin;412941 Wrote: Chris, actually that was what I meant. However, if iPeng's got to support it, you also need some UI, and just having menus may be a bit too little. Although it has the big advantage that it will work with the Controller and Squeezeplay, too. But you can still re-map menu items to something else and part of this is what the upcoming iPeng 1.2 interface is about. For example, I plan to include a Power button for servers that can shut down a server using the SvrPowerControl plugin and will wake it up by sending a WOL packet. Of course this is all proprietary but once it works you could as well define some standardized interface. Another idea I had, especially with local playback in mind, was that you could connect players to the server that are not really players. They would have only part of the capabilities, most notably not the actual playback capabilities, but you could for example use the interfaces for play, pause, skip, volume... If a plugin did that and used these commands to drive an external unit, it's a way to wrap your whole entertainment into the SB architecture. IRBlaster is going into the direction but not fully so. Your plugin does the same but only in connection with an amp connected to a player, if I understand it right. But theoretically you could write a plugin that wraps a TV control into this, since essentially all you need for a TV is power, skip and volume and then you could have a player TV controlled through your SC based equipment. Cool? Yes but there are two issues here. One is that SC can only interpret certain events. For example in the API you can see what you can subscribe to in the command callbacks. If an event is driven from one of these events, then you can either trap that event and have SC ignore it while your plugin does whatever you want, or you can let SC do its thing and continue to do what you want outside of SC. The other situation is sort of like what you are describing. Complety new events that SC knows nothing about and would never be aware of. Let me give some examples: For the first type of event you may have the turning on/off a SB or adjusting volume, picking a track, running a search etc. All of these events you use your SB for you could attach related events to like having an AMP turn on/off, adjusting your lighting to match the gendre of song being played etc. This is all related to what you are doing with the SB. For the second example its a bit tougher. You have to leave the SC environment and ask yourself what does iPeng need to do thats not connected with a SC event? Perhaps this is your point with the UI. For example maybe you want to kick off an application that shows you how much power all of the SB's and amps you have connected are using. My only point is that things that are intrinsic to SC should stay server sided if possible so it works with the largest possible mixture of devices. Things that are heavily UI or device dependant could run natively. I may still be confused by all of the features you have cooked up for iPeng and we will have to wait and see what comes in 1.2. I just see a lot of features people are asking for are truely capable today, although they may not be available. I was suprised what you had to do to support IRBlaster in 1.1 for example. One would have thought that no special UI would have been required in iPeng to support that. But of course you know what you are getting into :-) -- Aesculus Chris Aesculus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Pippin, Chris, Having read your comments, I can see this is rather more involved than I had appreciated. I looked at Airremote and Iredtouch and they are both pretty much what I was after - iPod multiple remotes - but both involve buying relatively expensive hardware that sits on the network and drives the IR leds to control the AV equipment. I already have that functionality in the squeeze products and they are already sitting next to the devices I wish to control. So I had hoped that it would be a 'relatively' simple task to use the squeeze IRBlaster capability under the control of iPeng to drive the AV equipment. Pippin, if you have a couple of minutes to have a look at the websites for the two products mentioned, they do a good job of describing the functionality I am looking for. This does raise an interesting question for Logitech and other box manufacturers who make their money by giving software away and charging for the box. While some may disagree, the Squeeze Controller and Logitech Harmony handheld remotes are not is the same league as the iPod touch, either in form factor or usability. Harmony in the UK is twice the price of an iPod touch, and is not without its issues. Whether Apple realised it at the time or not, they have produced a multi purpose handheld controller that happens also to be an iPod. This could be a game changer for Logitech and similar. -- Andy8421 Andy8421's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Pippin, Slightly off topic, but have you looked at using the IR capabilities in squeeze products to give iPeng control over other AV devices? To my simple mind, it doesn't seem that much of a stretch. I was wrestling with my Logitech harmony remote yesterday, which has a beast of a touchscreen interface and thought that the iPeng / iPod type application would be much better. Wouldn't involve any additional hardware except for the IR wand as I think squeeze products (apart from duet?) can drive an IR LED directly. The concept of a single remote using an iPod touch that was wireless / networked across all my AV equipment sounded very appealing. Just a thought. -- Andy8421 Andy8421's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Unless you are unfortunate enough to be colour blind in the red spectrum -- Paul_B Paul Slimcentre 7.2 on Quad Intel MSI MoBo running Vista Ultimate 64bit controlled via a Mini-ITX server running Windows 2003 R2 (SP2) and Idratek Cortex home-automation software. Remote storage QNAP TS-109 Pro(2.1.0T)~(500GB Hitachi HDD) SB3 (x1), 1 x SBB (Squeezebox Boom) on order RIP - dBpowerAMP R13 to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.41 Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Paul_B;412348 Wrote: Unless you are unfortunate enough to be colour blind in the red spectrum Isn't that what you typically are? Can you be color blind in the blue spectrum? Hey, that's a feature: iPeng is all about blue colors :-) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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You can also be coloured blind to green I believe -- Paul_B Paul Slimcentre 7.2 on Quad Intel MSI MoBo running Vista Ultimate 64bit controlled via a Mini-ITX server running Windows 2003 R2 (SP2) and Idratek Cortex home-automation software. Remote storage QNAP TS-109 Pro(2.1.0T)~(500GB Hitachi HDD) SB3 (x1), 1 x SBB (Squeezebox Boom) on order RIP - dBpowerAMP R13 to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.41 Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin wrote: I don't care as to the colour, but the current pale-blue versus pale-white is difficult. Okokok. :) I did change the icon for the version I re-submitted to the App Store today. thanks, much appreciated. cheers, calum. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Apple is driving me nuts! After a WEEK of testing they reject my latest iPeng build because: When connected to a server via WiFi and playing a tune, no sound can be heard. The FIRST line in the product description states that this is a REMOTE CONTROL application! What on earth are these doing there??? Sorry, looks like this is going to take a while :-( -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;410338 Wrote: Unfortunately I did not succeed in having a new one for 1.1. It's another artwork issue. The problem is, it's too transparent. Will do an update, maybe as a 1.1.1 or in 1.2 at latest. The trick would be to try to hit something non-transparent. Sorry. Pippin: Would you consider using red rather than blue as your 'On' color? It may show up better. Its very difficult to pick up the blue color vs white on the background. Another point to the OP is that when you do succeed in selecting something in iPeng it is halo'ed for a second which helps you realize its been selected. -- Aesculus Chris Aesculus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;412095 Wrote: Apple is driving me nuts! After a WEEK of testing they reject my latest iPeng build because: When connected to a server via WiFi and playing a tune, no sound can be heard. The FIRST line in the product description states that this is a REMOTE CONTROL application! What on earth are these doing there??? Sorry, looks like this is going to take a while :-( Pippin Well, you have to hand it to them, that IS a feature that many are anticipating :) Seriously though, we feel your pain. Shoddy work from Apple - if they're going to put this bottleneck in place 'for our benefit', the least they can do is get grown ups who can read to do the job. No doubt a proportion of your sales revenue goes towards paying the salaries of these individuals. On reflection, it could be why it has taken a week to get a reply - they've clearly had to install SC, and have perhaps been trying for the rest of the week to get the iPhone to make a sound -- chill chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I recently bought iPeng on the iTunes store. I was a little squeamish about paying the 10 bucks (I'm cheap at heart) - but the thing works great with my ~1000 albums...especially when hanging out on the porch while my home theatre system stereo blasts inside the house. Anyway, you can put me down as yet another happy iPenger. -- danull danull's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5998 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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chill;412199 Wrote: On reflection, it could be why it has taken a week to get a reply - they've clearly had to install SC, and have perhaps been trying for the rest of the week to get the iPhone to make a sound Err, no. They were testing for three minutes against my test environment through a remote access. Which of course explaing why there was no sound - the amp was switched off. danull;412225 Wrote: Anyway, you can put me down as yet another happy iPenger. Now THAT's good news :-) Always happy to make somebody happy! -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;412252 Wrote: Which of course explaing why there was no sound - the amp was switched off. Yes of course! So next time you submit it, just make sure you leave your amp powered up, and turned up to 11 - Berlin to, where are they, California?, that's going to take a very loud system for them to hear it! -- chill chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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chill;412277 Wrote: Berlin to, where are they, California? Texas, I believe. Not all of Apple is located in California. Now does that make it better or worse? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Aesculus wrote: Pippin: Would you consider using red rather than blue as your 'On' color? It may show up better. Its very difficult to pick up the blue color vs white on the background. I'd second that; coupled with the inevitable delays in things happening, the subtle colours are confusing. I find myself holding it up in the air and squinting is this on? :) I don't care as to the colour, but the current pale-blue versus pale-white is difficult. cheers, calum. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cdmackay;412298 Wrote: I'd second that; coupled with the inevitable delays in things happening, the subtle colours are confusing. I find myself holding it up in the air and squinting is this on? :) I don't care as to the colour, but the current pale-blue versus pale-white is difficult. Okokok. I did change the icon for the version I re-submitted to the App Store today. I find it a bit ugly now but it has good reactivity and it's clearly distinguishable, although it's still blue :-) Also got a chance to fix the issue for which I had invented an 1.1.1 release target´only yesterday which was that iPeng did flush the album cache when you connected to SN which it was not supposed to do and which is a bit uncomfortable if you've got a large database. At least some good out of this EDIT: See attached. +---+ |Filename: 090402 MultiPlayer.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7202| +---+ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;412309 Wrote: Okokok. I did change the icon for the version I re-submitted to the App Store today. I find it a bit ugly now but it has good reactivity and it's clearly distinguishable, although it's still blue :-) EDIT: See attached. Why do think its ugly? Its still in the same color pallate and blends in nicely. I would suspect the red color would be ugly, but those of us that are color challenged could see it :-). -- Aesculus Chris Aesculus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Bought the app yesterday and I must say it's the best :-) One remark, please design a nice, smooth icon :-D -- saturn saturn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4362 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I too am not a big fan of the 1.0.5 icon, but pippin does say above the icon has changed for 1.1. Any chance of a preview Pippin? CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-25661 for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.7 | SQL Playlist 2.4 | Music Information Screen 4.37 | Custom Scan 2.6 | TrackStat 2.8 Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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saturn;410244 Wrote: Bought the app yesterday and I must say it's the best :-) One remark, please design a nice, smooth icon :-D I can't. I have two left feet on the end of my arms if it comes to designing icons. Suggestions welcome! Chunkywizard;410256 Wrote: I too am not a big fan of the 1.0.5 icon, but pippin does say above the icon has changed for 1.1. Any chance of a preview Pippin? CW The new one is better, but just a bit... +---+ |Filename: iPeng 11 icon.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7181| +---+ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Pippin, Is there a way to keep the wifi connected when the screen switches off? I thought this was one of the restrictions imposed by Apple but then I noticed that the Remote application has Stay connected option in the settings. They say: Staying connected speeds up wake time, but may decrease battery life I know it will affect battery performance, but I would still like to have an option like that on iPeng so that I can choose to switch it on. Keep up the great work, ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ASenna04;410275 Wrote: Is there a way to keep the wifi connected when the screen switches off? Yes. 1.1 has that option. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;410134 Wrote: There is no difference from a business point of view. Doesn't matter whether you pay for a codec (code) or access to a service that requires a codec (data). Understood. However I thought that Apple had said that they didn't want the paid add-ons enabling new functionality, just providing added data ? -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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andynormancx;410284 Wrote: Understood. However I thought that Apple had said that they didn't want the paid add-ons enabling new functionality, just providing added data ? Oh? Ok, didn't see that... -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Is there a trick or tip when using the power on / off button? This appears to be the only key I'm having an issue with I wait until I see a signal after waking up but it seems to take many touches to turn on and off I read above an update is coming, any info on how this can be downloaded? Thanks again, loving this app E -- yesongs yesongs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21401 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi, just a short question. The internet radio function is not longer working in ipeng. When I hit the internet radio button it's loading for a short while and after that I get the error message Cannot connect to server. Please check server availability or see help for server setup information. Yesterday the internet radio was working fine, shoutcast, locals, you name it but now I got that error. Restarted squeezecenter a couple of times but no luck. ipeng does connect to my squeezecenter as I can see the name of my squeezebox in de lower left corner. Browsing my music dir is no problem, playing music works fine. Any idea 'bout this one? -- saturn saturn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4362 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;410270 Wrote: I can't. I have two left feet on the end of my arms if it comes to designing icons. Suggestions welcome! I am sure we have budding artists amongst us. What's the dimensions of the Icon? Also how many colours can you use? CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-25661 for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.7 | SQL Playlist 2.4 | Music Information Screen 4.37 | Custom Scan 2.6 | TrackStat 2.8 Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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yesongs;410309 Wrote: Is there a trick or tip when using the power on / off button? Unfortunately I did not succeed in having a new one for 1.1. It's another artwork issue. The problem is, it's too transparent. Will do an update, maybe as a 1.1.1 or in 1.2 at latest. The trick would be to try to hit something non-transparent. Sorry. Chunkywizard;410315 Wrote: I am sure we have budding artists amongst us. What's the dimensions of the Icon? Also how many colours can you use? As many colors as you like, but I#d prefer something that uses my scheme colors which means: Background is 0% red, 0% green, 10% blue and the lightest foreground color is 90% red, 90% green, 100% blue. Dimensions: I need two: 57x57 and 512x512, the small one may or may not have a lense effect, iPhone does that, the big one must not have a lense effect. I've been planning to set up a little icon competition on PenguinLovesMusic.com (price: an iPod touch or an SBR, let's see) but didn't find the time, yet, to do this. saturn;410319 Wrote: Hi, just a short question. The internet radio function is not longer working in ipeng. Have you tried to use internet radio from SqueezeCenter (the web interface)? Unfortunately the error message is a bit ambiguous (another thing that will get better in 1.1), if you can use your local library it's obviously not the connection to the server. My guess would be either your server doesn't have an internet connection or your SqueezeNetwork account is not set correctly in SC. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;410338 Wrote: My guess would be either your server doesn't have an internet connection or your SqueezeNetwork account is not set correctly in SC. Thnx, it was the SqueezeNetwork password, I reset it and forgot to change it in SqueezeCenter :-) -- saturn saturn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4362 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Just wondering what the timescale for using iPeng for playing music looks like. A while ago I think you mentioned April -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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danco;409919 Wrote: Just wondering what the timescale for using iPeng for playing music looks like. A while ago I think you mentioned April Oh yes, won't happen. That was when I supposed 1.1 would be ready for January :-) Prio 1 is nor wo fix usability of the NowPlaying screen, this is a UI effort so it will take time for testing and trying things out. Realistically two months which will put us at the end of May for 1.2 Playback is a development effort. iPhone does not support audio streaming so you have to do that yourself and integrate it with the local playback. iPhone 3.0 offers some promising new things, fist of all video (not audio) streaming, now you can actually use the video facility for audio, too, so that could be an option. Will evaluate, but I think it's a good guess that the introduction of iPhone 3.0 would be a possible timeframe. iPhone 3.0 also offers to be able to sell add-ons which would help me out with another issue: some of the streams used require proprietary codecs which I might or might not get for free. Paying for rollout of those to existing customers is something I probably can not handle (and don't want to: investing a lot of work to add features for people who did already purchase a product is one thing, me _paying_ for them to get additional features is something else) so the ability to add those codecs as an option adds to the chances... -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I was under the impression that paid add-ons could only be data and not code. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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andynormancx;410089 Wrote: I was under the impression that paid add-ons could only be data and not code. There is no difference from a business point of view. Doesn't matter whether you pay for a codec (code) or access to a service that requires a codec (data). -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Pippin, I know you were hoping to submit 1.1 to Apple for review this week. Any luck or are you still testing? -- kowloonside kowloonside's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kowloonside;409615 Wrote: Pippin, I know you were hoping to submit 1.1 to Apple for review this week. Any luck or are you still testing? No more testing, I submitted the app yesterday. Now it's up to how soon Apple approves it :-) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;409628 Wrote: No more testing, I submitted the app yesterday. Now it's up to how soon Apple approves it :-) Interested to see that the app description now at the store is your 1.1 text?! That's a good sign I guess ;-) -- atlslim atlslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Pippin, thanks for a great app! I had just discovered the Simplify app this past Friday, and spent most of the weekend thinking damn, I wish I could use the Itouch as my remote Did a search on a lark Monday morning and found the app - a wonderful surprise, and worked a treat right out of the box eas well I'm using a 8 gig Itouch - what kind of battery life should I expect using this pretty much exclusively as the remote? Thanks again, this app really takes the duet to another level E -- yesongs yesongs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21401 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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atlslim;409777 Wrote: Interested to see that the app description now at the store is your 1.1 text?! That's a good sign I guess ;-) Err.. no. That's not a good sign. That means, even though I fed all that text into the 1.1 description iTunes connect obviously set it to active already for 1.0.5 - although the 1.0.5 description in iTunes connect that I see still has the old text. I definitely don't like this. It promises features only the 1.1 will have and Apple's not approved that, yet. Will at least do some temporary changes. The strange thing is it only applies to the text, the images and icons are still correct (both will also change with 1.1) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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P.S.: Thanks for notifying me! -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;409807 Wrote: P.S.: Thanks for notifying me! No problem - guess I assumed the app update was soon if the text had changed - Good luck w/ sorting things out; looking forward to 1.1!! -- atlslim atlslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pichonCalavera;407595 Wrote: I think audio streaming is supported by the api too, altough I tought that was supported previosuly anyway. That would make it posible to add streaming capabilites from squeezecenter. No, it wasn't really supported before. If you really wanted to make use of streaming you had to download the stream yourself, cache it and then play from memory. This might help a bit, indeed. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;407620 Wrote: No, it wasn't really supported before. If you really wanted to make use of streaming you had to download the stream yourself, cache it and then play from memory. This might help a bit, indeed. Add to that they will *hopefully* integrate the streaming sufficiently so that it can run in the background, controlled by the music app. At the moment I think something similar is possible, where one of the music sites streams via Safari on the iPhone/iPod, and you can 'minimise' Safari but the stream keeps running. Al -- bat400 bat400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bat400;407679 Wrote: Add to that they will *hopefully* integrate the streaming sufficiently so that it can run in the background, controlled by the music app. At the moment I think something similar is possible, where one of the music sites streams via Safari on the iPhone/iPod, and you can 'minimise' Safari but the stream keeps running. Al No, you can't stream via Safari. Safari can issue file playback with QuickTime (no streaming!) and then goes into the background (against QuickTime) but you can't do anything else while playback is running. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;407686 Wrote: No, you can't stream via Safari. Safari can issue file playback with QuickTime (no streaming!) and then goes into the background (against QuickTime) but you can't do anything else while playback is running. Oh I see. Probably just wishful thinking that the streaming will be integrated into the music app, although that would make sense - you can surf and check mail while listening to local music, so why not an internet radio station over wifi... Al -- bat400 bat400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Pippin, I was wondering if you have had a chance to check out Apple's Keynote of the iPhone OS 3.0 preview? Any ideas of how the new features could benefit iPeng? I'm sure there are lots of possibilities that people will point out and I bet you have some ideas too. -- ch1525 ch1525's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ch1525;407553 Wrote: Pippin, I was wondering if you have had a chance to check out Apple's Keynote of the iPhone OS 3.0 preview? Any ideas of how the new features could benefit iPeng? I'm sure there are lots of possibilities that people will point out and I bet you have some ideas too. No, didn't have time to watch the KN, yet I did have a look at the 3.0 beta. Direct opportunities are not completely obvious, of course I could let people pay for add on modules now :-) Another option might be to use some of the notification stuff to have iPeng react to server events. One thing that WILL be of interest mid term is cutpaste but I'm not going to tell what for, yet :-) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I think audio streaming is supported by the api too, altough I tought that was supported previosuly anyway. That would make it posible to add streaming capabilites from squeezecenter. -- pichonCalavera *rip* (eac) *convert* (flac) *tag* (musicbrainz/mp3tag) *normalize* (replaygain/foobar2000) *albumart* (www/firefox) *transport* (winscp) *store* (debian) *manage* (squeezecenter) *control* (ipodtouch/ipeng-app) *play* (squeezebox) *preamplify* (zpre2) *amplify* (zampv3) *listen* (axiomm2/sennheiser-hd595) *scrooble* (last.fm) *enjoy* (me :) http://www.last.fm/user/pichonCalavera pichonCalavera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13068 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I have to problems with running SC through my Ipod Touch When i run the SC via std remote control(classic remote) everything works fine. I downloaded Ipeng from Appstore just 2-3w ago and installed it. And when i open the application its very slow and sometimes it wont find the server. So could someone please give info on how to set it up so it will work or give some leads in where to look for some wrong settings... Squeezebox classic ver 3. Server are installed on a NAS: Netgear ReadyNAS Duo 1TB(2x1TB). Router is a new : D-Link 655. gigabit switch Conneted NAS with Dlink and run player Wireless. -- bobrupp bobrupp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bobrupp;406889 Wrote: I have to problems with running SC through my Ipod Touch When i run the SC via std remote control(classic remote) everything works fine. I downloaded Ipeng from Appstore just 2-3w ago and installed it. And when i open the application its very slow and sometimes it wont find the server. So could someone please give info on how to set it up so it will work or give some leads in where to look for some wrong settings... Squeezebox classic ver 3. Server are installed on a NAS: Netgear ReadyNAS Duo 1TB(2x1TB). Router is a new : D-Link 655. gigabit switch Conneted NAS with Dlink and run player Wireless. Please see my answer on your other thread. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi Peng! Love iPeng for controlling my SB3. What I miss most is better access to song info, as was available through ipeng skin. Sounds like you are working on that. One thing that would be useful to me would be to be able to access song info for upcoming tracks in the playlist. Maybe tap and hold on a playlist item invokes info for that track? A common play mode for me is to start (Erland Dynamic Playlist) Random Songs, which I can get through iPeng via Favorites, then look ahead in the playlist and edit, either deleting or adding songs from the album/show of one of the tracks. I sometimes want more info than artist and track name for upcoming tracks. Thanks for your work and your active involvement in the forums. Looking forward to future versions. -- bephillips More than 40,296 songs on 2,789 albums by 2,126 artists. Mostly flac, some mp3 and aac. Version: 7.3.3 - 24799 @ Thu Jan 29 03:01:48 PST 2009 Operating system: Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F33) - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: ppc Perl Version: 5.8.8 - darwin-thread-multi-2level MySQL Version: 5.0.22-standard On a 1.2GHz G4 Mac iBook with 768MB RAM http://db.etree.org/bephillips http://www.last.fm/user/bephillips bephillips's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bephillips;406261 Wrote: Hi Peng! Love iPeng for controlling my SB3. What I miss most is better access to song info, as was available through ipeng skin. Sounds like you are working on that. One thing that would be useful to me would be to be able to access song info for upcoming tracks in the playlist. Maybe tap and hold on a playlist item invokes info for that track? That's planned for 1.2 First I have to get the interface to display the info done for 1.1 and then it will be added to NowPlaying in 1.2. The interface stuff is necessary since the TrackInfo structure will be used for plugins on NowPlaying. This way it will be compatible with the Squeezebox Controller, giving simply more options. Songinfo while browsing will be in 1.1. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi Pippin I was just wondering when 1.1 is likely to hit the Apps Store? I hope you don't mind me asking - I'm just eagerly awaiting it! -- neilcoburn neilcoburn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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To ease the waiting for the next iPeng release, here's a little review on what it will do and how it will probably look like: http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2009/03/03/preview-ipeng-goes-squeezenetwork/ It's currently in beta testing and not all of the features/changes envisioned for it are done but the big architecture changes are through (I hope). What will it do? Well, a lot of details, but mainly two things: *Plugins* It uses the SqueezePlay menu system so it will be able to support all plugins that provide menus for the controller (and don't require LUA) *SqueezeNetwork* And it will work with SqueezeNetwork, so you can shut down your server if you like :-) Have Fun! Edit: neilcoburn, just saw your post. Well, it's beta and it does still have bugs. I'd expect end of this months, realistically, a bit sooner, hopefully. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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auronthas;401490 Wrote: Hi pippin, further to my earlier question on 'keylock'. Instead of 'keylock', how about a popup window (Play or cancel) will be appeared, when select a song whether intentionally or accidentally. Here's something I'm currently experimenting with for 1.1: I plan to add the TrackInfo screen (which has a lot of links, too) as a 4th mode. This would then not play anything but enter that menu. Would that do it? Or is that too complicated? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;401516 Wrote: Here's something I'm currently experimenting with for 1.1: I plan to add the TrackInfo screen (which has a lot of links, too) as a 4th mode. This would then not play anything but enter that menu. Would that do it? Or is that too complicated? Something simple will do, as long as users won't accidentally touch song while scrolling the playlist. I am not too sure which is more complicated. Thanks for consideration. -- auronthas Auronthas Tajima Power Conditioner #61614; Squeezebox 3 / Cambridge Audio 540C V2 #61614; VDL The Source (CA) / AQ Copperhead (SB3) #61614; Krell KAV-400xi #61614; Chord Carnival Silver Plus / VDL Goldwater (current) #61614; Sonus Faber Concertino Domus #61614; Supra 2.5 LoRad power cord (CA Krell) iMac 2.4 Ghz, 4GB DDR RAM, Mac OS X 10.5.6 - SC Version: 7.3.2 - 24695 @ Tue Jan 20 2009 - Firmware : 123 ' A u r o n t h a s ' s B l o g ' (http://auronthas.blogspot.com) ::My Recent Tracks Played:: ' [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/itunesrecent/recenttracks/auronthas.gif] ' (http://www.last.fm/user/auronthas/?chartstyle=itunesrecent) auronthas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Pippin, I guess I screwed up. I downloaded iPeng without even thinking about the fact that I am running SS6.3 due to a change in subsequent releases that prevents my home audio system from beginning to play when it powers up (big WAF). Is there any way to use the program with SS versions? -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Kyle;401533 Wrote: Pippin, I guess I screwed up. I downloaded iPeng without even thinking about the fact that I am running SS6.3 due to a change in subsequent releases that prevents my home audio system from beginning to play when it powers up (big WAF). Is there any way to use the program with SS versions? Sorry, but the interface used by iPeng (and most other remote control apps, including all for iPhone) is not present in 6.3. What is your issue with the power up and 7.x? Have you tried to find a solution here on the forum? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I finally took the plunge, and picked up an Ipod Touch to use as a controller with iPeng to run a new Squeezebox receiver. The short version is.I love it! The longer version - Some comments/questions: 1) Performance is generally very good, especially considering I have a library of almost 8000 mostly FLAC albums. The one area that was slow is the screen I intended to be my standard view - The Artists-All Albums list. I prefer this list order for browsingjust like you would see them in a record store. When I first selected this item, all you see is a blank screen. (I assume is is getting/sorting the list). It takes a VERY long time for anything to display. When it does, it is very responsive. I have seen vague comments that this timing will improve... is this true? If I left the list and returned, it still took a long time to load. 2) Blank screens - on the above mentioned view and on search, when something is actually happening but all you see is a blank screen, it is hard to tell if the device is actually doing anything. Some sort of progress indicator would help immensely. 3) Custom Browse - I have seen some comments about CustomBrowse with iPeng - but I assume they were talking about the plug-in, right? And these are planned to be supported in 1.1? Do I have that right? 4) Pre-fetch - I appreciate that you have set it up so that it does not lag while loading artwork.but is there anyway to add an option to pre-fetch all artwork? I would like to have all the art in place when flipping thru the LONG list of albums, and would be willing to set aside the iPod and wait while it grabbed all of this data, rather than populating it as it was browsed. 5) Search navigation - The one place I got confused in the UI was while using the search screen. When the keyboard is up, I wasn't sure how to escape. I didn't intuitvly realize that I needed to make the keyboard disappear to open up my navigation options. Maybe it's just me, but it was a little confusing. 6) Pauses in tracks - When I performed a search, it caused to audio playback to stop. It also took a very long time to return a result. With no progress indicator, no results shown for a long time, and an audio dropout, I had assumed the app had crashed. Ids the search time due to the size of the library? Or is something else happening here? Thanks again for all your hard work - these comments are not meant as criticism.just trying to help move iPeng from very good to excellent. -- Random Lurker Random Lurker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21320 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Random Lurker;401419 Wrote: I finally took the plunge, and picked up an Ipod Touch to use as a controller with iPeng to run a new Squeezebox receiver. The short version is.I love it! Good to hear that. The longer version - Some comments/questions: always welcome! Seriously! 1)... The Artists-All Albums list. I prefer this list order for browsingjust like you would see them in a record store. When I first selected this item, all you see is a blank screen. (I assume is is getting/sorting the list). It takes a VERY long time for anything to display. When it does, it is very responsive. I have seen vague comments that this timing will improve... is this true? If I left the list and returned, it still took a long time to load. You guess right, it's the sorting. I really want to improve this on 1.1 - all other lists do already live without sorting, this one will need some special consideration. If you want to make sure I don't forget it, please file a ticket :-) https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/newticket 2) Blank screens - on the above mentioned view and on search, when something is actually happening but all you see is a blank screen, it is hard to tell if the device is actually doing anything. Some sort of progress indicator would help immensely. Err.. Yes. For this screen, I plan on one, Search will be a bit more difficult, I'll see... 3) Custom Browse - I have seen some comments about CustomBrowse with iPeng - but I assume they were talking about the plug-in, right? And these are planned to be supported in 1.1? Do I have that right? Yes, that's currently beta testing. Quite cool. 4) Pre-fetch - I appreciate that you have set it up so that it does not lag while loading artwork.but is there anyway to add an option to pre-fetch all artwork? I would like to have all the art in place when flipping thru the LONG list of albums, and would be willing to set aside the iPod and wait while it grabbed all of this data, rather than populating it as it was browsed. Short answer: mostly no. The problem is two-fold. #1: Getting the artwork onto the device. I could indeed add a prefetch for this (another ticket?). But this will only get you half of what you want since... #2 Displaying the artwork while scrolling requires the images to be created in memory (RAM) since scrolling consumes almost all of iPhone's computing power and there is simply no way I can cram 8,000 images (plus all the radio artwork) into memory, it would alone consume more than I believe is typically available. There's another thing, however that I would like to do (ticket #3?): Do a more intelligent read-ahead that gives a chance to get artwork into memory you are likely to need next. Will probably give you the desired effect. 5) Search navigation - The one place I got confused in the UI was while using the search screen. When the keyboard is up, I wasn't sure how to escape. I didn't intuitvly realize that I needed to make the keyboard disappear to open up my navigation options. Maybe it's just me, but it was a little confusing. Yes, but I didn't find a way to place the keyboard above the buttons. Apple Remote does it the same way. 6) Pauses in tracks - When I performed a search, it caused to audio playback to stop. It also took a very long time to return a result. With no progress indicator, no results shown for a long time, and an audio dropout, I had assumed the app had crashed. Is the search time due to the size of the library? Or is something else happening here? Maybe. And maybe your server is a bit slow. And - agreed - iPeng is quit demanding here, since it starts an incremental search with one character only. Actually it's a bad design on SC's side since iPeng only fetches 8 elements per category and those should really be available fast, but obviously SC does a full query first. I consider doing it the same way as the controller and require two or three characters before starting search. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks for the quick reply and responses I filed tickets per your guidance. -- Random Lurker Random Lurker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21320 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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auronthas;386281 Wrote: Yes, the 'key' lock feature can be as a small icon at every page, user can toggle on/off as their needs (i.e. scrolling without accidentally touch or select song/album/playlist) Thanks for accepting my idea, i believe it would be a great add-on to other users as well. Hi pippin, further to my earlier question on 'keylock'. Instead of 'keylock', how about a pop-out window (Play or cancel) will be appeared, when select a song whether intentionally or accidentally. Thanks. -- auronthas Auronthas Tajima Power Conditioner #61614; Squeezebox 3 / Cambridge Audio 540C V2 #61614; VDL The Source (CA) / AQ Copperhead (SB3) #61614; Krell KAV-400xi #61614; Chord Carnival Silver Plus / VDL Goldwater (current) #61614; Sonus Faber Concertino Domus #61614; Supra 2.5 LoRad power cord (CA Krell) iMac 2.4 Ghz, 4GB DDR RAM, Mac OS X 10.5.6 - SC Version: 7.3.2 - 24695 @ Tue Jan 20 2009 - Firmware : 123 ' A u r o n t h a s ' s B l o g ' (http://auronthas.blogspot.com) ::My Recent Tracks Played:: ' [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/itunesrecent/recenttracks/auronthas.gif] ' (http://www.last.fm/user/auronthas/?chartstyle=itunesrecent) auronthas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ptrainer;400430 Wrote: Thanks. I don't have Rhapsody so I didn't know. One more question... Why doesn't any album art appear on the Now Playing screen with Napster tracks? I had the same problem about figuring out how to play songs, will try that later ! -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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socistep;400532 Wrote: I had the same problem about figuring out how to play songs, will try that later ! The problem is, the plugins are being developed with the IR remote or the controller in mind, both of which have a play button. The Web Interface has the overlays that also show play and never actually have play as a default action so these plugins simply always present a lower level to dig down into. Now while it's the same for the library, iPeng can take care of that because it knows the lowest level, but for internet radios and music services, any level can or can not be the lowest level so iPeng has to allow you to dig down, you don't want to get stuck on the album level, don't you? Actually, the touch-and-hold gesture is quite an effective workaround, once you figure it out. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Maybe this a stupid question, but... I can play Napster songs with my SBC but can't seem to figure it out in iPeng. Clicking on the songs I want to listen to just seems to bring me into more menus. How do I get songs to play? -- ptrainer ptrainer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ptrainer;400416 Wrote: Maybe this a stupid question, but... I can play Napster songs with my SBC but can't seem to figure it out in iPeng. Clicking on the songs I want to listen to just seems to bring me into more menus. How do I get songs to play? Same as Rhapsody: Use the touch-and-hold gesture on any playable item (album, song etc) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;400426 Wrote: Same as Rhapsody: Use the touch-and-hold gesture on any playable item (album, song etc) Thanks. I don't have Rhapsody so I didn't know. One more question... Why doesn't any album art appear on the Now Playing screen with Napster tracks? -- ptrainer ptrainer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Nevermind the last question. Seems it just takes about 30 seconds or so for the image to show up. -- ptrainer ptrainer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ptrainer;400431 Wrote: Nevermind the last question. Seems it just takes about 30 seconds or so for the image to show up. Really? I'm having trouble when playing more than one song and I don't yet find out, why. The first one shows up immediately but for the following ones I get a black screen... -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;400441 Wrote: Really? I'm having trouble when playing more than one song and I don't yet find out, why. The first one shows up immediately but for the following ones I get a black screen... It works sometimes, and not other times. I get a black screen on a lot of songs and it seems to be having trouble going to the next song sometimes too. I think the new interface from Napster to SqueezeCenter must still be buggy. -- ptrainer ptrainer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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@pippin: I am sorry if this question has been asked several times before. But are the functionalities of squeezenetwork already support by ipeng (without using SC)? If it is not the case when will the support of SN will be available, especially supporting napster? Thanks! -- fe1iix fe1iix's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19833 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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fe1iix;397945 Wrote: @pippin: I am sorry if this question has been asked several times before. But are the functionalities of squeezenetwork already support by ipeng (without using SC)? If it is not the case when will the support of SN will be available, especially supporting napster? Thanks! The FUNCTIONALITY of SN should be supported by iPeng if it's run through SqueezeCenter (that is, using Internet Radio and Music Services through SC). You can NOT, however, run iPeng purely through SN, you will always need SC running. Version 1.1 is planned to support a direct connection to SN which then will no longer require SC. I can't talk about Napster, haven't used that myself. Is this available through SC? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The latest build of squeezecenter (Version: 7.3.3 - 25041 @ Wed Feb 18 03:04:36 PST 2009) contains an option to use napster, available in music services. -- fe1iix fe1iix's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19833 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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fe1iix;397958 Wrote: The latest build of squeezecenter (Version: 7.3.3 - 25041 @ Wed Feb 18 03:04:36 PST 2009) contains an option to use napster, available in music services. This should then work with iPeng as well. Do you know in which regions this is available? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Napster is available in Canada, Germany, United Kingdom, and the United States. I am using it since yesterday and it works fine. It would be perfect if the time lag between selecting a title (pressing the play button) and starting the wma would be decreased. But this obviously just affects SN... -- fe1iix fe1iix's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19833 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hello, I just purchased and installed my copy of iPeng. I am pretty happy with it, save for some minor sluggishness when it starts up. Further, I have noticed a few times it does not identify the SB3 which is playing some content. I have one question, I use the iTunesupdate plugin to rate the songs. I do this by hitting a # on the remote and the SB3 shows the rating. Is there some way the plugins usage can be incorporated? There is a distinct possibility this may just not happen, but I thought I would ask. Thanks, G -- govardha govardha's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4130 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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govardha;397981 Wrote: Hello, I just purchased and installed my copy of iPeng. I am pretty happy with it, save for some minor sluggishness when it starts up. Further, I have noticed a few times it does not identify the SB3 which is playing some content. I have one question, I use the iTunesupdate plugin to rate the songs. I do this by hitting a # on the remote and the SB3 shows the rating. Is there some way the plugins usage can be incorporated? There is a distinct possibility this may just not happen, but I thought I would ask. Thanks, G You have to use the TrackStat plugin along with iTunesupdate. iPeng will then show the rating on the overlay with the progress bar. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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EyeRonik1;397219 Wrote: Since you have the shortcut, I don't think a real Choose Server setting needs to be that convenient. I would add it to the settings pane, or as a new item in More. well, even though during 1.1 (and only there) some player or server related functionality should will show up in the main menu (and new plugin features probably always will), the general idea is to bundle all player and server centric functionalities on NowPlaying. Also: The servers need to be there because in 1.2 you are supposed to be able to move players between servers using D'n'D, which is especially important for using SN. I found the default skin for Squeezecenter to be usable in horizontal mode on the iPhone. This suggestion is just so you can punt and not have to muck up your interface with too many settings. Hm. Interesting thought, especially since 1.2 will have some player and server settings in its menu tree. panos_k75;397236 Wrote: I have been on 2.2 for quite a while. It wasn't that bad before.Would the fact that some of my players are based on SqueezeSlave has anything to do with it? Can't imagine that, it's a touch screen thing. There's another issue with Squeezeslave that it will sometimes not accept volume changes but that will result in the handle popping back instead of not being accessible. When I try to control one of my soft-players sometimes it will take 3 or 4 misses to get a hit on the volume control. Also volume control on the iPOD app. is not that bad. Yes, but as stated before, that's NOT the UISlider control, but a MPVolumeView which does behave quite different (much better) but directly acts on the system volume. Haven't found a way to use that one, it's not even a control. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
