Re: [Discuss] Strategies/techniques for accessibility (visual impairment)

[Tracy Teal]

Thanks all for the discussion of accessibility and Evan for the PR to
improve the accessibility of the lessons.

In our workshop checklists: http://www.datacarpentry.org/checklists/

we have an Accessibility section (
http://www.datacarpentry.org/accessibility/) that also mentions talking
with the students in advance. Hosts can also be helpful, as they often have
resources at their university that can help with physical arrangements.

If there's other things we should add to the Accessibility checklist or
information we could add to that section, that page is a good resource for
other instructors, so it would be great if anyone wanted to file an issue
or add a PR

https://github.com/datacarpentry/datacarpentry.github.io/tree/master/pages

Best,
-Tracy


On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Leighton Pritchard <
leightonpritch...@mac.com> wrote:

> Thanks Nelle,
>
> That’s really good advice, and very much appreciated!
>
> We’ve had some additional advice off-list, and your last point -
> communicate with the student ahead of time to find out their needs - is
> maybe the most humane and practical piece of advice anyone could give for
> this and similar situations.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> L.
>
> On 20 Sep 2016, at 18:48, Nelle Varoquaux 
> wrote:
>
> On 20 September 2016 at 08:59, Leighton Pritchard
>  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We’ll be teaching a workshop soon, with a visually-impaired (blind)
> student.
> This is a new experience for me, and I was wondering if any of you might be
> able to share some advice for teaching strategies/approaches to delivering
> material that could be useful?
>
>
> I've never taught to a blind student, but I've got a bunch of friends
> who are blind, so here is a couple of things to keep in mind:
>
> - Make sure you give all explanation orally. That'll be hard
> considering you'll probably show a lot of code. I'd suggest sharing
> your material with him/her beforehand making sure every piece of code
> you'll type is in there (or record what you are typing and upload it
> somewhere everytime you save).
> - Make sure your material are accessible (in that case, readable with
> a screenreader). Schema should be avoided. Text is fine. Most pdf are
> accessible, most *simple* html is as well, but fancy javascript can be
> problematic.
> - Make sure that the tables, chairs and cables are quite tidy and
> aren't moved around too much.
>
> In practice, all my blind friends are very autonomous, so I wouldn't
> worry too much. You can also ask that student directly: he/she may be
> able to give you some advice.
>
> Cheers,
> N
>
>
> --
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> leightonpritch...@mac.com
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>
>
>
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Re: [Discuss] Strategies/techniques for accessibility (visual impairment)

[Leighton Pritchard]

Thanks Nelle,

That’s really good advice, and very much appreciated!

We’ve had some additional advice off-list, and your last point - communicate 
with the student ahead of time to find out their needs - is maybe the most 
humane and practical piece of advice anyone could give for this and similar 
situations.

Many thanks,

L.

> On 20 Sep 2016, at 18:48, Nelle Varoquaux  wrote:
> 
> On 20 September 2016 at 08:59, Leighton Pritchard
>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> We’ll be teaching a workshop soon, with a visually-impaired (blind) student.
>> This is a new experience for me, and I was wondering if any of you might be
>> able to share some advice for teaching strategies/approaches to delivering
>> material that could be useful?
> 
> I've never taught to a blind student, but I've got a bunch of friends
> who are blind, so here is a couple of things to keep in mind:
> 
> - Make sure you give all explanation orally. That'll be hard
> considering you'll probably show a lot of code. I'd suggest sharing
> your material with him/her beforehand making sure every piece of code
> you'll type is in there (or record what you are typing and upload it
> somewhere everytime you save).
> - Make sure your material are accessible (in that case, readable with
> a screenreader). Schema should be avoided. Text is fine. Most pdf are
> accessible, most *simple* html is as well, but fancy javascript can be
> problematic.
> - Make sure that the tables, chairs and cables are quite tidy and
> aren't moved around too much.
> 
> In practice, all my blind friends are very autonomous, so I wouldn't
> worry too much. You can also ask that student directly: he/she may be
> able to give you some advice.
> 
> Cheers,
> N

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leightonpritch...@mac.com
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Re: [Discuss] Strategies/techniques for accessibility (visual impairment)

[Alexander Konovalov]

Hi all,

> On 21 Sep 2016, at 16:50, Raniere Silva  wrote:
> 
> Hi Leighton,
> 
>> We’ll be teaching a workshop soon, with a visually-impaired (blind) student.
>> This is a new experience for me, and I was wondering if any of you might be
>> able to share some advice for teaching strategies/approaches to delivering
>> material that could be useful?
> 
> I believe that the Steering Committee will agree with me that
> we will appreciate very much if you could write a blog post
> about your experience with the visually-impaired (blind) student.

In addition, I suggest that we should prepare some guidance and add it 
to http://software-carpentry.org/checklists/accessibility/ - that would
be my first place to look for some advice, but it does not cover this
case at the moment.

Best wishes
Alexander




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Re: [Discuss] Strategies/techniques for accessibility (visual impairment)

[Raniere Silva]

Hi Nelle,

thanks for you tips to Leighton.

> - Make sure your material are accessible (in that case, readable with
> a screenreader). Schema should be avoided. Text is fine. Most pdf are
> accessible, most *simple* html is as well, but fancy javascript can be
> problematic.

I have the feeling that our online lessons aren't 100% accessible
and having them 100% accessible is something that I'm in favour
even if we need to raise the contribution bar a little.

I don't have a screenreader and I failed to setup the speech-to-text
last time that I tried. If you could ask one of your friends for 20-30
minutes to have a look on any sessions/topics of our lessons,
for example, http://swcarpentry.github.io/shell-novice/03-create/,
http://swcarpentry.github.io/r-novice-gapminder/05-data-structures-part2/,
or http://swcarpentry.github.io/python-novice-inflammation/06-func/,
and email me all the issues I will record the issues on GitHub
and try to address them for our next release.

Cheers,
Raniere
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Re: [Discuss] Strategies/techniques for accessibility (visual impairment)

[Raniere Silva]

Hi Leighton,

> We’ll be teaching a workshop soon, with a visually-impaired (blind) student.
> This is a new experience for me, and I was wondering if any of you might be
> able to share some advice for teaching strategies/approaches to delivering
> material that could be useful?

I believe that the Steering Committee will agree with me that
we will appreciate very much if you could write a blog post
about your experience with the visually-impaired (blind) student.

Thanks,
Raniere
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