Re: A use for sockpuppets and trolls
I don't find this radical enough. We have to think outside the box, not repeat this boring shit FSF* has been doing. Blah blah, compromises, working together with traitors. Free software is about revolution, we need to change society from the bottom up! -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ Oct 23, 2019, 10:08 by bugs@gnu.support: * Lori Nagel [2019-10-23 02:56]: It is time to movepast the controversies and discuss the real issues, the issue of howto be more effective as free software advocates. Very good initiative! As free software philosophy is freely licensed to spread and duplicate, every individual loyal to free software philosophy may advocate and bring understanding to own friends and society in general. Articles are free to duplicate and place on your own websites. It is very beneficial to speak about free software philosophy in universities, schools and people's universities. Agenda for such presentation could be as simple as: 1. Who is Dr. Richard Stallman? 2. What is GNU Project? 3. What are 4 software freedoms and what are users' human rights in computing. 4. Where such freedoms are defined, in the GPL license. 5. Examples of great free software projects 6. Distribution and duplication of DVDs with free operating system distributions. 7. Making your own GNU Friends Club in your community and helping others to liberate computers from proprietary software, including liberating their Linux kernels from proprietary blobs. The above agenda is simple and can be presented within 15 minutes, everybody may do it in their own community. Free software activists should go into the enemy territory and post messages aboutwhy xyz piece of proprietary software is bad. In general ANY proprietary software is bad for reason of being proprietary. Free software movement is about free software and liberation. "Open source" is movement of people who rather advocate better software quality, not quite freedoms, it is mixture of people who understand free software and those who simply appreciate that software is there for use. We are friends. People from "open source" are rather to speak about qualities of software. While those from free software movement will speak about freedom. That is the difference and for this reason all proprietary software has no place on this planet as all of such software are abusing human rights. They should do so in groups going into the same community so that it isn’t just one lone voice who is a troll. You are right. That is how many social actions are spread and disseminated. Yet strength of the free software philosophy is that people adopt it individually and spread it individually. Before some time, maybe few years, I have seen some commotion when GNU was mentioned as true name of system with explanation that "Linux" is a kernel and not the operating system. Today I see not much of turmoil on that subject and the facts are accepted as such, and people support GNU and GNU project and getting the facts. Non-technical users do not have to settle for DRM or take it when a proprietary software company takes their software and community out from under them. Many people hate thesethings but take it with some kind of acceptance, like it is a fact oflife like eating or breathing air. It is not and the proprietary software industry does not have to exist. Proprietary software is set of hidden commands which one cannot know what they are doing to you. And the fact is that society have been manipulated by using proprietary software, series of hidden commands that manipulate users' data, users' rights in computing. For those who know what proprietary software does, it is kind of masochism without sex. For those who are not aware of problems with proprietary software, they can be enlightened. Jean ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: A use for sockpuppets and trolls
Hail Daniel for your sacrifices you did to destroy these suckers! -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ Oct 23, 2019, 01:02 by dan...@pocock.pro: On 22/10/2019 23:24, Lori Nagel wrote: ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: New heroes for a clean future
Oct 19, 2019, 04:24 by aristo...@tutanota.com: > Heroes are to be eliminated. Heroes keep the people dumb. So would you say we need to kill RMS and Linus to bring the community forward? Do we need to kill Snowden? > Not labelled a traitor, Trump is a traitor. Asshole Trump betrays the people > of the USA every single day. Why? He fulfills more of his promises than the left-wing hero Obama. -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
RE: a gift to SJW
Why do you think I should go home? Do you even know me? Should it not be clear from my statements that I do not belong to the scum we need to fight? -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ Oct 19, 2019, 03:57 by aristo...@tutanota.com: Oct 17, 2019, 18:03 by ignuc...@tutanota.com: Finally the masses open up to promote the true elite of the world and send the scum that is among us back home. Yes you go home. ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: on SJWs and feminists
Oct 18, 2019, 19:06 by bugs@gnu.support: > That type of "speech" falls into harassment, is not protected by free > speech laws. Mailing list owner could moderate it to keep nice > conversation. You want to introduce censorship? Then why are we discussing in this forum where free speech and telling the truth is still allowed, and not on libreplanet or fsfe lists? We must not trust a single leader who controls our communication. If people cannot stand other people sharing their opinions, they should leave and go into their whiny corners which get smaller every day. -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: on SJWs and feminists
If you cannot handle opinionated discussions and put the blame on your lack of mail inbox capabilities you seem to be wrong here. Please leave the list then. Alternative: set your list mode to digest. -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ Oct 18, 2019, 18:12 by stationa...@gmail.com: Yep, I’ll agree there’s a lot of fascist-like behavior under the guise of freedom of speech. Quite the horseshoe effect! Here’s what I propose: Let’s all take the weekend off! Give the list a break, spare our inboxes! Enjoy a short break to reflect and think about the future. Then, we can all get back to it on Monday. On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 7:58 AM Christian Imhorst wrote: Dear Daniel, Am 18.10.19 um 11:24 schrieb Daniel Pocock: > As a native English speaker, I'll simply comment that some people do > generally use the word "gas" in that context okay but ahilter doesn't, because he wrote: Am 17.10.19 um 16:41 schrieb ahil...@keemail.me: > people like you *would have been gassed* for attacking our leader! This cannot be misunderstood with farting: "Had we arrived just two days earlier, we *would have been gassed* immediately." -- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/26/tales-from-auschwitz-survivor-stories RMS Support uses the language of fascists extensively: Am 18.10.19 um 03:11 schrieb RMS Support : > We have to defend our owns. It is time to stand up against the scum > that infiltrates us, against the intruders in our once clean and pure > societies. We have to regain free speech. The death of free forums may > not be forgotten! And the first outbursts of rebellion have already > been seen, just recently in Germany. Here we have a pronounced dichotomous or fascist thinking in the mutually exclusive categories friend and enemy, we and the others, especially with regard to the interior of society. The inner enemy of fascist society plays at least as important a role as the outer enemy. He is identified as a "popular pest", a threat to one's own "blood" or as "scum" of the once clean and pure society. Above all the own fiction of the "Jew", "Semite" and the other "race" serves this purpose also "Feminists", "Gay/Trans people", "Greens", "the Left" etc. From them it is necessary to purify their society. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Nazi_Germany Last but not least he is linking to the platform for the alt-right and he really claims that the anti-Semitic attack in Halle could be fake news: Am 18.10.19 um 15:03 schrieb Truth Teller : > Killing people is the last resort. That is why there are still wars going on even under participation of honest countries and leaders. I don't precizely know what happened in Halle but as always we have to look out for fake news. Like I said earlier, let us not be distracted by these: > > --> https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/18/viral-video-of-homophobic-attack-denounced-as-fake-news/ > Do you really want to attack the free software movement together with alt-right fascists? Regards Christian ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: on SJWs and feminists
Oct 18, 2019, 17:58 by christian.imho...@fsfe.org: > RMS Support uses the language of fascists extensively: Are you calling me a fascist? My grandfather fighted against fascists in war, and today I fight SJW fascists wherever I can. I don't call you bad just because you have a different opinion. But you do so -- you do not even address me personally but blaming me at Daniel as if I was not here. It more seems to me you are the real fascist here. You depersonate me, treat me like I am not even a human, belittle my opinion and beliefs. You have the typical black/white opinion where anyone voicing hurting truths is killed off. > Last but not least he is linking to the platform for the alt-right and he > really claims that the anti-Semitic attack in Halle could be fake news: I did not say that, and you know it. I said that we have to be cautious of fake news. You brought up Halle, I don't even know exactly what happened there like I wrote before. > Do you really want to attack the free software movement together with > alt-right fascists? Are you speaking to Daniel? Who is attacking the free software movement? He protects it. And again, you are calling us names. "Alt-right" is a label invented by a little group of politicians and media moguls. It is a label to stigmatize conservatives. But just because we might be more "right" than "left", you try to silence us. Would you call Stallman "alt-right" because he has more conservative opinions than you have? RMS, Linus, Daniel: if you are reading this, please do not listen to such accusations. We are your friends. We stand by you. We know the truth. -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
New heroes for a clean future
Heroes are important. After the last messages in this forum I started to think about this in more detail. Certain forces try to eliminate our heroes one by one. Some examples: 1) The USA was the biggest nation in the world because they worshiped their soldiers and martyrs as heroes. This raises moral standards in society and the legitimate citizens of this country are more willing to sacrifice themselves for the country and thus protect the nation and its interests. But the USA is on the decline as we can see these days. Trump, the legitimately elected leader, protects this nation's heroes by taking them out of the dirty desert of northern Syria and saving them from the crazy Turkish. But no, he is not thanked for this, he is labelled as a traitor. Politically correct opportunists prefer that the soldiers die a senseless death in a desert that interests no one. And still people like JFK are celebrated as false heroes, while Lee Harvey Oswald can only be whispered about in the new "safe public spaces". 2) Let's look at China. Why is this country so successful? Because it worships its heroes, even if they have brought pain and suffering upon them. Chinese can suffer in the softened world because it is necessary. They worship Mao Zedong because he taught them that Western culture is the best. Many have lost relatives, but it was necessary. Today, they are the most advanced nation that quickly recognizes and neutralizes internal adversaries thanks to technological progression. 3) In the free software society we allow our leaders to be eliminated one by one. Linus is censored, RMS suffers reputation murder, Daniel is expelled from Debian. They are heroes but nobody dared to call them like that because the movement was already started in a time when weakness and political correctness made it to the core of our society. * * * But we have to defend our heroes! And much more: we have to create new heroes, call them by their name and spread their message as far as possible! So I ask you: who are your heroes? -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: on SJWs and feminists
18 Oct 2019, 09:47 by softm...@fsfe.org: > I hardly can imagine how fearful it has to be for you wimpy whiners to see > the world your dads showed you through their eyes to change to something you > can't understand out of your holes and echo chambers. Are you blaming our dads for preparing us for the world, that some things have to be fighted for? Some days ago I read a good analysis that proves that false-feminists and loud SJWs -- like the ones who made heroes like RMS and Marvin Minsky step down -- often come rom failed parenthoods, raised by single moms. Understandably for them they then try to tear down the natural order but that is not what we should want. Mankind [you notice? it's not "womankind"] only got so far by the law and order that morons now want to destroy. > If you take the idiot Nazi from Halle, who killed two innocent people while > trying to kill more people for being jewish, as part of your peergroup, I can > only feel sorrow for you. Yet I hope you will actually experience love and > see how the world is changing for the better. Killing people is the last resort. That is why there are still wars going on even under participation of honest countries and leaders. I don't precizely know what happened in Halle but as always we have to look out for fake news. Like I said earlier, let us not be distracted by these: --> https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/18/viral-video-of-homophobic-attack-denounced-as-fake-news/ -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: FSFE minutes, or a vendetta?
18 Oct 2019, 12:54 by anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de: > You forgot Canada. The British are still in North America. The rebels were > able to beat Spain or the Mexicans, but not the British in Canada. Canada is a interesting topic. There are almost no British left in Canada. Extreme left-wing Trudeau [ever noticed his name is French? Coincidence?] and his puppets work on smuggling a huge number of non-British in the country with the goal to irritate locals and distract them from making big leaps forward in their societal progression. But people start to see the pattern. In fact, it's the same pattern backstabbers like Bradley, Brock and bald-headed feminists apply. And again, people start to rise up and spread the truth: --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjnRAlpmduk But let us not be distracted from listening to these liars. We have to act, not react! -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: on SJWs and feminists
18 Oct 2019, 11:24 by dan...@pocock.pro: > As a native English speaker, I'll simply comment that some people do > generally use the word "gas" in that context THANK YOU DANIEL! I am no native english speaker but I am annoyed every day that you cannot say "gas" and "jews" on one sentence any more. RMS stumbled over the same thing, he was just stating the facts that sex with children was legally fine until not so many years ago. There is so much censorship offline and online and it already reaches our brains. But there are people who deserve medals and military honors for their ability to tell the truth and withstand all the drama bitches in our once bright, now rotten society. We need more heroes and they have to step out of the shadows like Daniel did with his blog posts and RMS supporters to on backthetheaugust.org and fsforce.noblogs.org [thank YOU!]. It goes far beyond RMS, it is about fundamental truths. That is why I also renamed me here. We need to concentrate on the big picture, our whole society, and the true enemies! -- https://backtotheaugust.org/ ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
