[DNG] mutt attachment problem
I usually have no problem sending attachments with mutt. But now I want to send a directory that holds files: ./patthToDirectory/directory This does not work because I gather attachements must be single files. Is not a directory a single file?. So I zipped the directory. But when I try to attach it I get the error "Error sending message, child exited 1 ()" My fishing on line did not find a solution. What is this "child"? Is it the attachment process? My version of mutt is 2.2.6-1 The size of the zip file is 164 Mb The file has a .zip extension. The path is no longer than usual Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] modprobe can't find modeule
I am trying to install virtualbox. I istalled it and then the virtualbox-dkms module. The problem is that the modules was installed but not loaded. I have /lib/modules/5.18.0-4-amd64/updates/dkms/vboxdrv.ko When I run modprobe on it I get this error: modprobe: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found in directory /lib/modules/5.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 I tried to point modprobe to this the directory where the module was located, but it didn't hava any effct. I should point this out: $ nano /etc/devuan_version daedalus/ceres even though in sources.list is deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main non-free contrib deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged unstable main contrib non-free I probably ran # update without having remembered the second line was present. Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] The word is irony
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[DNG] cron runs a ghost command
I find that user's cron runs a command defined in crontab -e some time ago but then removed. At present there is no command defined in $ crontab -e. Nevertheless cron runs the old command one on schedule. I should add the the old command is no longer val;lid (it points to a non-existent directory). Is cron designed to retry failed commands? If so how do I get it to stap? My problem arise when I want a user run a command to /media/daily. But I could not create the daily directory owned by user. Something to do with group. I was able to change owner of /media/crom to user for some reason. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] resolv.conf
I do not know how long ago it was, but some of my mail started to go out without an envelop sender address. I've not yet been able to figure why, but one thing I don't like is the appearance of my /etc/resolv.conf file. It looks like this: nameserver 192.168.254.254 search home domain home The 192.1683.254.254 is my router. I assume that "home' is useless. I installed resolvcom, ran it with a -u option and rebooted. All this did was to remove the domain line from resolv.conf. How is resolv.conf supposed to get the name of my ISP? I suppose from my router. The router knows what Frontier SSID it is using and the connection type is DHCP via 802.1x. It says public LAN is disabled. But it appends -16 to my host name. My mail problem may have started when Frontier replaced my router. I installed resolvcon, ran it and rebooted. All it did was to remove the domain line. It used to be that for both the search and domian lines was found the name of my ISP (Frontier.com). This seemd to work. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] no access to router administation page
I find that I now cannot access my router administration page. The router provides access to internet, but when I run 192.168.1.254 (this IS the correct address), the connection times out. This happens both with Chromium and Firefox. Rebooting the router and resarting the network did not help Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium
I apologize for allowing Bob's message to get burried. On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 09:02:08PM -0600, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > Haines Brown wrote: > > I still get "Unable to locate package chromium". It seems that when I > > did update/dist-upgrade after modifying sources.list to accommodate > > daedulus I did not get the no InRelease file error. The chimaera > > previously installed on this disk did not have chromium installed. > > What does this say for you? > > apt-cache policy chromium > > It should say something similar to this. > > root@clash:~# apt-cache policy chromium > chromium: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 100.0.4896.127-1 > Version table: > 100.0.4896.88-1 500 > 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian daedalus/main amd64 Packages Yes it did I stumbled on the reason for my not getting a release file. The line in my sources.list was deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalas main non-free contrib I changed it to deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalas main and the update/upgrade worked. I was then able restore the non-free and contrib and install chromium. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium
My message to the list seems to have gone amiss. This was it: On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 03:10:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Haines Brown writes: > > > A simple little question. I installed daedulus on a spare machine (no > > problems), but was dissapointed to find that chromium is not in the > > daedulus repository. What is that? > > I see > > $ apt-cache madison chromium > chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main > amd64 Packages > chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1~deb11u1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged > chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages > > Seems to be there alright. Thanks, Olaf. I still get "Unable to locate package chromium". It seems that when I did update/dist-upgrade after modifying sources.list to accommodate daedulus I did not get the no InRelease file error. The chimaera previously installed on this disk did not have chromium installed. I tried $ sudo apt-get --allowUnauthenticated install chromium, but this command was unable to locate chromium. I did not create a file /etc/apt/apt.conf/d/99myown with line APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "true"; because very insecure. In any case I'm not sure it would work ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium
On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 03:10:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Haines Brown writes: > > > A simple little question. I installed daedulus on a spare machine (no > > problems), but was dissapointed to find that chromium is not in the > > daedulus repository. What is that? > > I see > > $ apt-cache madison chromium > chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main > amd64 Packages > chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1~deb11u1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged > chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages > > Seems to be there alright. Thanks, Olaf. I still get "Unable to locate package chromium". It seems that when I did update/dist-upgrade after modifying sources.list to accommodate daedulus I did not get the no InRelease file error. The chimaera previously installed on this disk did not have chromium installed. I tried $ sudo apt-get --allowUnauthenticated install chromium, but this command was unable to locate chromium. I did not create a file /etc/apt/apt.conf/d/99myown with line APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "true"; because very insecure. In any case I'm not sure it would work ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] daedalus with chromiium
A simple little question. I installed daedulus on a spare machine (no problems), but was dissapointed to find that chromium is not in the daedulus repository. What is that? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Apparmor blocks Torbrowser downloads
Torbrower no longer asks where to download even though that option is
enabled in its settings.
Torbrowser no longer can download a file to my home directory ("Could
not read the contents of ...)". I get impression that apparmor is
preventing a download to where I want. So I put the line:
owner "@{HOME/" rw,
into /etc/apparmor.d/torbrowser.Tor.tor . This has no effect.
I also ran to no effect:
$ sudo sh -c 'echo "owner /dev/shm/wayland.mozilla.ipc.[0-9]* rw," >
/etc/apparmor.d/local/torbrowser.Browser.firefox ; apparmor_parser -r
/etc/apparmor.d/torbrowser.Browser.firefox'
The package apparmor-profile-torbrowser is not in Chimaera rspository.
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Re: [DNG] installing Wine 32
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 06:44:13PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: > Hi! > > Anno domini 2022 Sun, 27 Mar 10:55:12 -0400 > Haines Brown scripsit: > > I'm running Chimaera and trying to play an old CDROM. I assume > > simplest way is to install wine. When I try to play the cdrom with > > wine64 I am told wine 32 is missing. I proceed to install > > wine and wine32. > > > > Installation of wine tells me that wine 5.0.3-3 is already > > installed. > > > > I proceed to install wine32. I'm told: > > > >wine32:i386 : Depends: libc6:i386 (>= 2.28) but it is not > > going to be installed > > Depends: libwine:i386 (= 5.0.3-3) but it > > is not installable > > > > An attempt to install the former lists dozens of dependendencies > > that are not going to be installed. Same for libwine:386 > > > > I'm afraid of breaking applications. Shouldn't the > > installation of an application in the Chimaera repositroy > > be simpler than this? > > > > > > I have wine installed, but it's 6.0.3, not 5.0.3 - did you do a "apt update" > before you tried? Your suggestion made me feel rather guilty until I checked after doing update/upgrade $ aptitude show wine | less Version: 5.0.3-3 State: installed Are you running Ceres? -- Haines Brown /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Xagainst HTML e-mail / \ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] installing Wine 32
I'm running Chimaera and trying to play an old CDROM. I assume
simplest way is to install wine. When I try to play the cdrom with
wine64 I am told wine 32 is missing. I proceed to install
wine and wine32.
Installation of wine tells me that wine 5.0.3-3 is already
installed.
I proceed to install wine32. I'm told:
wine32:i386 : Depends: libc6:i386 (>= 2.28) but it is not
going to be installed
Depends: libwine:i386 (= 5.0.3-3) but it
is not installable
An attempt to install the former lists dozens of dependendencies
that are not going to be installed. Same for libwine:386
I'm afraid of breaking applications. Shouldn't the
installation of an application in the Chimaera repositroy
be simpler than this?
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[DNG] spam disposal
I'm running Cimaera and have procmail and spamassassin installed.
I consructed a file ~/.procmailrc. In it ares the lines:
:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
$HOME/mail/spam
I created this spam directory and restarted spamassassin. Yet
mail having the line "X-Spam: Yes" in it header is not
redirected to ~/mail/spam
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Re: [DNG] nvidia-persistenced can't be installed
I wondered why I needed nvidia-parsistenced when someone said thet solved the proboem by doing without it, I decided I could as well. Deleting the application seems to have done no harm. Proble not solved but worked around. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] nvidia-persistenced can't be installed
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 11:25:48AM +, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 2021-12-30 at 15:26 -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > When I try to do an upgrade, I'm told nvidia-persistenced is not > > configured. When I reinstall it I get: > > I'm runing Chimaera with fluxbox but no desktop environment. I > > reinstalled xord and fluxbox. Syslog does not report an error. > I had to deal with what may be the same problem on updating from Ascii > to Beowulf. > > The problem I found is caused by the nvidia-persistenced init not > checking for an existing running copy of nvidia-persistenced. > > i) if you don't use CUDA then you can simply get rid of nvidia- > persistenced. Marjorie, Thanks! I don't know how nvidia-persistenced got (partially) installed, but see it is optional. Following your advice I simply deleted it. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] nvidia-persistenced can't be installed
When I try to do an upgrade, I'm told nvidia-persistenced is not configured. When I reinstall it I get: ... Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used. Setting up nvidia-persistenced (460.32.03-1) ... Starting NVIDIA Persistence Daemon nvidia-persistenced failed to initialize. Check syslog for more details. invoke-rc.d: initscript nvidia-persistenced, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing package nvidia-persistenced (--configure): installed nvidia-persistenced package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-persistenced E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Setting up nvidia-persistenced (460.32.03-1) ... Starting NVIDIA Persistence Daemon nvidia-persistenced failed to initialize. Check syslog for more details. invoke-rc.d: initscript nvidia-persistenced, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing package nvidia-persistenced (--configure): installed nvidia-persistenced package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-persistenced I'm runing Chimaera with fluxbox but no desktop environment. I reinstalled xord and fluxbox. Syslog does not report an error. $ lspci -nn | egrep -i "3d|display|vga" 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation RocketLake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 750] [8086:4c8a] (rev 04) 00:17.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:43d2] (rev 11) I ran # apt install -f I ran # aptitude reinstall nvidia-persistenced E: Internal Error, No file name for nvidia-persistenced:amd64 Help would be much appreciated. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] stumbling over a fossil package
I have a laptop on which I want to install skypeforlinux. It seems that some point in the distant past it was not available in the debian repository and so I download a its deb from Skype and placed it in my local repository (/usr/local/share/debs/binary). This may have been before I moved from Debian to Devuan Ascii on that machine. I find that I cannot do an upgrade because the system cannot find skype (https://repo.skype.com/deb). I commented the local repostory (/usr/local/share/debs). I want to install the skypeforlinux package, but get an error: Err https://repo.skype.com/deb stable/main amd74 skyptforlinux amd 64 8.73.0.92 404 Not Found (IP:2362.172.144 443) ... try -o APT::Get::Fix-Missing=true to continue with missing packages. But # apt-get -o APT::Get:Fix-Missing=true is not the correct command. I want to purge the old skyperforlinux in order to install the current one -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [dng@lists.dyne.org: Re: new firefox-esr buggy?]
Tito, I know nothing about compositing an image. I gather my fluxbox window manager does not do it. I run no DE and so presume it does not to it either. I tried: $ gsettings set compositing-manager false but my syntax is wrong and I don't know why. I'm told to "Set the value of KEY to VALUE. I thought compositing-manager was the key and false the value. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] [dng@lists.dyne.org: Re: new firefox-esr buggy?] [Work-Around]
I apologize for the slowness of my reply to all the valuable suggestions. I've worked around the display problem, but thought best to address some of the suggestions because it is only a work around, not a fix. I gather from users of the 78.15.0esr version of Firefox that the video problem is not with that version. This is good to know. I assume it is not a video driver problem for that display issue occurs only with Firefox, not with other graphics intensive applications or browsers. I'm unsure how to approach a problem with video sync, but as best I can make out the display issue occurs with all the URLs I visit. I purged my old Firefox and reinstalled without its having access to old cache and the problem persisted. Wasn't able to do the memtest86+ because of the press of work, but it is a good idea to do when I get a chance even though I have worked around then Firefox display problem. It does seem to be a refresh problem. If I open a terminal on top of the browser's page display and them move the terminal it away, the lines that has been under the termoinal break up one second. I have no ideal how one fixes such a problem in a particular application. Turning off smooth scrolling had no effect. Turning now to my work aroud. My theory had been that my browser was upgraded when I did a general update/upgrade perhaps a month ago. But about that time I also temporarly chagne zoon. So I want back to an earlier version of Firefox. Not sure what version was using and so arbitrarily downloaded Firefox 7.0.1. Turns out this version has no display distortion. Emboldened I also downloaded a new version of Firefox: 95.0.1. Much my suprrise this ran out of the box. No dependency issues. It also does not have the display problem. So I'll try to migrate to it as my default browser if I can. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?
A recent upgrade installed the new version of Firefox: 78.15.0esr. It was released on 5 Oct 2021. It has a very annoying behavior and I wonder if others experience it. I have torbrowser installed. It works fine, and so I don't think it is a problem with X window system. I purged Firefox and reinstalled it with no custsomization, and it still showed the behavior. So it seems part of the Firefox release itself. The behavior is hard to describe. When I scoll text up or down by using the arrow keys, the lines of text begin to break up and become unreadable until they settle about one second after the scroll ends. Actually it is thin horizontal white lines less than a cm wide that last a second. Nowhere else do I have this problem with scrolling. Another symptom: when the cursor is moved to or away from the scroll bar, the grey scrollbar is broken into a vertical set of grey and light grey lines for about a second. When I drag the scrollbar to scroll text, text and images are broken up by horizontal white linees for a about a second. In a colored image these lines can be colors from the image. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Avoid "unlock your keyring" prompt without desktop environment
I do not run any DE. On a new installation of skypeforlinux it priodically asks me to unlock my keyring. I do not use a keyring. A standard approach is to disable keyring prompts from seahorse. I do not have seahorse installed. I also do not have debian-keyring installed I do not have a /etc.pamd.gdem file I do not have a /etc/pamd./sddm file But strangely I do have a ~.local/share/keyrings/default file that simply has the line: default_keyring. How do I keep skypeforlinux from asking for keyring pw? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] can't print PDFs [Solved?]
On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 05:35:00PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > I'm using a HP LaserJet 1300 printer with Devuan. I used to able to > print PDFs without a problem. But when I installed the operating > system on new hardware I could no longer print PDFs. > > A two-word PDF prints OK. More complicated PDFs are sent to the queue > but rather than print simply ñturn on the printer's error LED. The > printer is using the recommaned Poststcript filter. > > In CUPS inteface the printer is seen as: > > HP_LaserJet_1320_series > HP LaserJet 1320 series lenin > HP LaserJet 1320 series Postscript (recommended) > Processing - "Use "pdftops-renderer" option (see cups-filters README file) > to use Ghostscript or MuPDF for the PDF -> PostScript conversion." > > I look at /usr/share/doc/cups-filters/README.gz. It seems that to print > PDFs I must download and compile cups-filters-1-current.tar.gz. This is > where I got into trouble. > > Poppler, freetype, fontconfig, and liblcms (liblcms2 recommended) must > be installed to be able to compile this package. > > I don't have access to a program named "poppler": > > i A poppler-data - encoding data for the poppler PDF > renderi > i A poppler-utils - PDF utilities (based on Poppler) > p python3-poppler-qt5- Python binding to Poppler-Qt5 C++ > library > i A qpdfview-pdf-poppler-plugin- tabbed document viewer - DjVu plugin > p ruby-poppler > > I do have fontconfig installed and also liblcms2-2 installed. > > Because the BZT repository does not contain a prebuilt configure > script, I must first run autoconfig. This only leads to some undefined > macro errors. It says please use m4_pattern_allow. Man autoconf says > nothing about what this means. > > Why has printing a PDF become so difficult? This makes no sense to me I had better luck when I rejected the recommended filter and instead chose the pcl3 filter. Sorry to waste your time. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] can't print PDFs
I'm using a HP LaserJet 1300 printer with Devuan. I used to able to print PDFs without a problem. But when I installed the operating system on new hardware I could no longer print PDFs. A two-word PDF prints OK. More complicated PDFs are sent to the queue but rather than print simply ñturn on the printer's error LED. The printer is using the recommaned Poststcript filter. In CUPS inteface the printer is seen as: HP_LaserJet_1320_series HP LaserJet 1320 series lenin HP LaserJet 1320 series Postscript (recommended) Processing - "Use "pdftops-renderer" option (see cups-filters README file) to use Ghostscript or MuPDF for the PDF -> PostScript conversion." I look at /usr/share/doc/cups-filters/README.gz. It seems that to print PDFs I must download and compile cups-filters-1-current.tar.gz. This is where I got into trouble. Poppler, freetype, fontconfig, and liblcms (liblcms2 recommended) must be installed to be able to compile this package. I don't have access to a program named "poppler": i A poppler-data - encoding data for the poppler PDF renderi i A poppler-utils - PDF utilities (based on Poppler) p python3-poppler-qt5- Python binding to Poppler-Qt5 C++ library i A qpdfview-pdf-poppler-plugin- tabbed document viewer - DjVu plugin p ruby-poppler I do have fontconfig installed and also liblcms2-2 installed. Because the BZT repository does not contain a prebuilt configure script, I must first run autoconfig. This only leads to some undefined macro errors. It says please use m4_pattern_allow. Man autoconf says nothing about what this means. Why has printing a PDF become so difficult? This makes no sense to me -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Skype crashes
I'm running Chimera. I downloaded current version of skypeforlinux and installed it. The annoying prompts for password to keyring I skip. The audo and video test ok. But when I try to make a free test call, Skype crashes. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] installing zoom in Chimaera
On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 12:10:15AM +0100, aitor wrote: > On 12/4/21 11:14 PM, aitor wrote: > > On 12/4/21 11:08 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > > > put copy of libdconf1_0/38.0-2.deb in that directory and ran > > > > > ># apt install -f ./libdconf1 > > >... > > >Reading package lists... Done > > >E: Unsupported file ./libdconf1 given on commandline > > > > You need to write the complete name of the package, including also the > > .deb extension. Thank you, Altor. Things went well -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] installing zoom in Chimaera
I downloaded zoom_amd64.deb and placed it in a directory in /usrlocal/share. In that directory I run: # apt install -f ./zoom_amd64.deb ... Note, selecting 'zoom' instead of './zoom_amd64.deb' Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: dconf-cli : Depends: libdconf1 (= 0.38.0-2) but 0.40.0-2 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. I put copy of libdconf1_0/38.0-2.deb in that directory and ran # apt install -f ./libdconf1 ... Reading package lists... Done E: Unsupported file ./libdconf1 given on commandline Installing zoom on Chimaera must be easier than this. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] lpr print pdf file landscape orientation
I have bsd-lpr. I can print a text file with landscape orientation with $ lpr -o landscape file.txt My problem is that I cannot print pdf files in landscape orientation. $ lpr -o landscape file.pdf does nothing. I don't want to make landscape the default CUPS orientation. Atril rotates the display of the PDF, but not the content of the file in relation to the page when printed. The qpdfview utility also can rotate the display of text but when printed the effect is simply move text up on the page. I don't see how poppler-utils can be of help. How does one print a PDF with landscape orientattion? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] lpr command not working
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:28:57PM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 19:21:15 -0500 > Haines Brown wrote: > > These problems I'll pursue, but my pont is that none of the ways to > > get access to the lpr command are workig. > > > use: $ lpstat -d -v -p > to list which the default printer is and which pringters there are $ lpstat -d -v -p no system default destination lpstat: Bad file descriptor lpstat: Bad file descriptor > use: # lpadmin -d "$queue" > to set $queue as the default for cups and lpr I'm unsure whether you are telling me now to set the queue for CUPS or if I need to set it to "queue". I do # /etc/cups/diff -y cupsd.conf cupsd.conf.O | less . I discover that is it cups.conf. not cups.conf. So "O" means Original? My current cupsd.conf has line Port 631 vs. Listen localhost:631 My current location is # Allow shared printing... Order allow,deny Allow @LOCAL the file cupsd.conf.O has # Restrict access to the server... Order allow,deny One thing I could is to backup /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and replace it with cupsd.conf.O and reinstall the printer. Would you suggest doing this? > (using cups-lpr) what does this mean? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] lpr command not working
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 07:56:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Haines Brown said on Mon, 15 Nov 2021 19:21:15 -0500 > > > >My printer lost its status as default, but I can't get to the CUPS > >web page to restore it > > Let me ask you a few probably dumb questions... > > * Was cupsd running? > * Did you go to http://127.0.0.1:631/ ? > * When CUPS asked for user and password, did you type root and your > machine's root password? > * Did you go to Administration=>Set as default server for the printer > you want to be default? Yes cupsd is running: $ ps -auxw | grep cups haines 28191 0.0 0.0 6560 3416 pts/6S+ 05:21 0:00 nano cupsd haines 29295 0.0 0.0 6180 664 pts/15 S+ 06:51 0:00 grep cups On other hand, # cupsd -h -bash: cupsd: command not found # cupsd -bash: cupsd: command not found I initially went to localhost:631. But I find that going to it displays the CUPS web page, but I cannot open the Administration tab without getting "Unable to Connect". When I try the URI I cannot even connect to the Web intefac. This is probably a clue, but I don't know how to intepret it. I supplied root and root's pw when asked. This was several days ago and until yesterday I used the Web inerface without a problem. Can't retrace my steps at this point, but I belive I went to Administration amd for my printer and selected it to be default. It status shows it to be default, but yesterday it mysteriously ceased to be default: $ lpstat -d no system default destination So I do: # lpadmin -d HP_LaserJet_1320_series lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Bad file descriptor I look at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and off hand see nothing odd. For example: Port 631 Listen /run/cups/cups.sock Share local printers on the local network. I suppose an obious thing to would be to purge and reinstall CUPS, but I'd rather fix the problem than run around it. On-line discussaions often presume systemd, which is no help. There is no file /etc/cups/client.conf The file /etc/cups/cupds.conf does not have the line "hostnamelookups" It has # Allow shared printing... Order allow,deny Allow @LOCAL Should it be Order deny.allow ? should I change to Allow from all ? When I run ~$ nc -zv 631 I get Connection refused # service cups start # service cups status $ lpstat -t scheduler is not running no system default destination lpstat: Bad file descriptor lpstat: Bad file descriptor lpstat: Bad file descriptor lpstat: Bad file descriptor lpstat: Bad file descriptor -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] lpr command not working
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 07:35:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 15:11:22 -0500 > Haines Brown wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 06:18:06PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng > > wrote: > > > Anno domini 2021 Mon, 15 Nov 10:52:06 -0500 > > > Haines Brown scripsit: > > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 12:55:59PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > > I reinstalled a printer on a Chimaera box. The CUPS test file > > > > > prints just fine. The lpr > > > > send data to the printer. Status: Processing - "Sending data to > > > > > printer." Some 15 min (?) later the job does print. > > > > > ... > > According to > https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=file=bin%2Flpr=submit > there are three packages providing "bin/lpr": > cups-bsd > lpr > lprng > > Which one do you have? Are they all the same? > I think they are somewhat different and from memory I think the cups-bsd > variant is best integrated with cups. I started with cubs-bsd and then used lpr. I now also try lprng. I reinstalled cups-bsd and and end up in bad shape a lpr test.txt lpr: Error - No default destination. My printer lost its status as default, but I can't get to the CUPS web page to restore it b) Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at localhost:631. I do have access to internet. c) $ lpr -PHP_LaserJet_1320_series test.txt lpr: Error - The printer or class does not exist. These problems I'll pursue, but my pont is that none of the ways to get access to the lpr command are workig. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] lpr command not working
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 06:18:06PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: > Anno domini 2021 Mon, 15 Nov 10:52:06 -0500 > Haines Brown scripsit: > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 12:55:59PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > > I reinstalled a printer on a Chimaera box. The CUPS test file prints > > > just fine. The lpr > > to the printer. Status: Processing - "Sending data to printer." Some 15 > > > min (?) later the job does print. > > > > > > A possible problem is that I cannot delete the old printer definition > > > from CUPS. When I go to Administration -> Printers, the status of the > > > old printer Idle, Accepting Jobs, Not Shared. > > > > > > Under its Administration I select Delete Printer and verify that I want > > > it deleted. This returns the message that it has been successfully > > > deleted. Yet it is still listed in Administration. > > > > > > A problem might be that the printer can't be deleted because it is > > > shared by other systems despite its status. Where can I uncheck > > > printer-is-shared for remote queues. Its status is Idle, Accepting > > > Jobs, Not Shared. The best I can do is change its status to Rejecting > > > Jobs. Restartintg CUPS sever did not help. The status of the printer > > > I'm trying to delete is Not shared. But I can't deetete it. > > > > I finally managed to delete the unwanted printer by deleting CUPS > > from the machine running it. However, lpr still does not work. The > > problem is that no default printer is defined. > > > > $ lpstat -d > > no system default destination > > > > I'm using a HP Laserjet1320 with USB printer under Chimaera. I did manage the set the printer default by using the correct command. $ lpstat -d system default destination: HP_LaserJet_1320_series But it did not help. > I got "lpr" working by giving host and printer: > > $ ls | lpr -H printserver -P MFC-J5320DW_EINSEITIG Thanks, but I dont understand. Man lpr does not list an -H option. If I try to use the -P option, the printer is unknown: $ lpr -PHP_LaserJet_1320_series lpr: HP_LaserJet_1320_series: unknown printer > It might be that you have to set the hostname explictly to localhost. How does one tell lpr to use localhost as hosname? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] lpr command not working
On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 12:55:59PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > I reinstalled a printer on a Chimaera box. The CUPS test file prints > just fine. The lpr to the printer. Status: Processing - "Sending data to printer." Some 15 > min (?) later the job does print. > > A possible problem is that I cannot delete the old printer definition > from CUPS. When I go to Administration -> Printers, the status of the > old printer Idle, Accepting Jobs, Not Shared. > > Under its Administration I select Delete Printer and verify that I want > it deleted. This returns the message that it has been successfully > deleted. Yet it is still listed in Administration. > > A problem might be that the printer can't be deleted because it is > shared by other systems despite its status. Where can I uncheck > printer-is-shared for remote queues. Its status is Idle, Accepting > Jobs, Not Shared. The best I can do is change its status to Rejecting > Jobs. Restartintg CUPS sever did not help. The status of the printer > I'm trying to delete is Not shared. But I can't deetete it. I finally managed to delete the unwanted printer by deleting CUPS from the machine running it. However, lpr still does not work. The problem is that no default printer is defined. $ lpstat -d no system default destination I'm using a HP Laserjet1320 with USB printer under Chimaera. I try to set the default: CUPS -> Printers lists my printer as: HP_LaserJet_1320_series So I set that printer as to be default: $ sudo lpoptions -d HP_LaserJet_1320_series copies=1 device-uri=hp:/usb/hp_LaserJet_1320_series?serial=00CNL1F33212 finishings=3 job-cancel-after=10800 job-hold-until=no-hold job-priority=50 job-sheets=none,none marker-change-time=0 media=na_letter_8.5x11in number-up=1 output-bin=face-down print-color-mode=monochrome printer-commands=AutoConfigure,Clean,PrintSel fTestPage printer-info='HP LaserJet 1320 series' printer-is-accepting-jobs=true printer-is-shared=true printer-is-temporary=false printer-location='Local Printer' printer-make-and-model='HP LaserJet 1320 series Postscriipt (recommended)' printer-state=3 printer-state-change-time=1636985393 printer-state-reasons=none printer-type=8425556 printer-uri-suppo- rted=ipp://localhost/printers/HP_LaserJet_1320_series_USB_00CNL1F332> _HPLIP sides=one-sided But there is still no default value $ lpstat -d no system default destination When I specify the printer by providing lpr with -P option: $ lpr -PHP_LaserJet_1320_series test.txt lpr: HP_LaserJet_1320_series: unknown printer I do lsmod to make sure that ppdev, parport, parport_pc modules are loaded. CUPS lists only one other driver for the LaserJet 1320 which is pcl3,hpcups 3.21. But when I use it I get error: Unsupported document-format "application/vnd.cups-command". $ a2ps testFiles/test.txt [testFiles/test.txt (plain): 1 page on 1 sheet] /usr/bin/lp: Error - No default destination. [Total: 1 page on 1 sheet] sent to the default printer $ lpq no entries -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] lpr command not working
I reinstalled a printer on a Chimaera box. The CUPS test file prints just fine. The lpr Printers, the status of the old printer Idle, Accepting Jobs, Not Shared. Under its Administration I select Delete Printer and verify that I want it deleted. This returns the message that it has been successfully deleted. Yet it is still listed in Administration. A problem might be that the printer can't be deleted because it is shared by other systems despite its status. Where can I uncheck printer-is-shared for remote queues. Its status is Idle, Accepting Jobs, Not Shared. The best I can do is change its status to Rejecting Jobs. Restartintg CUPS sever did not help. The status of the printer I'm trying to delete is Not shared. But I can't deetete it. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] How to construct a testing .deb binary with dpkg-buildpackage?
As a long time debian/devuan user I always feel ashamed to ask such a pedestrian question as this. Given the absence of a backport for nano, my aim is to construct a .deb for the testing version of nano (nano-9.5). This is what I did: In apt sources.list IO added the lines deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-free and ran an update and upgrade I expected # aptitude search nano would now return a nano package with the .bpo extendion. It did not. Whe not? Next I tried to satisfy dependencies: # apt-get build-dep -t testing nano but this returns: E: The value 'testing' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources E: Unable to find a source package for nano # apt-get build-dep nano-5.9 still can't find the source pacakage. I thought the -t would override the deault stable, but instead it seems the default value stable is negating the -t option. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] nano hard line wrap
I was left frustrated when nano 4.0 dropped hard line wrap as the default. But I have had no luck re-implementing it. I'm running nan 5.4-2. Man nanorc says there is the set/unset nowrap. I tried unset nowrap, but it had no effect. How do I recover a hard wrrap at 70 in nano? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Results of Chimaera Test
Anecdotes of success with hardware are so valuable that I'm plugging in an account of my installing Chimaera on hardware although off topic. Case I been happily married to Lian Li for many years, but lighting displays and glass sides really turn me off. So I ventured to get a Fractal Meshify 2 Compact Black. Easy to install the hardware. Motherboard I'm also rather wedded to Gigabyte. Intel has finally caught up with AMD with its Z590 chip. It only came out ib March 2021, and so I was a bit nerous about adopting it. It is a major leap forward in performance. So I got the Gigagyte Z540 Aorus Elite Ax board. Cooler Although I was worried about dimensions and overhang, I purcahsed Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 CPU Air Cooler, SickleFlow 120 V2 PWM. This is perhaps overkill for someone who is not a gamer. PSU It is a Corsair RMX Series (2021), RM750x, 750 Watt, Gold, Fully Modular Power Supply. CPU Intel Core i5-11600K Desktop Processor 6 Cores up to 4.9 GHz Unlocked LGA1200. This is less expensive but relatively fast. RAM TEAMGROUP T-Force Xtreem ARGB 4800MHz CL20 16GB (2x8GB) PC4-38400 Dual Channel DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Ram (Blue) for Z590 - TF10D416G4800HC20. Gigyte web site says this compatible. Main Drive SAMSUNG 980 PRO 1TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 Internal Gaming SSD M.2 (MZ-V8P1T0B), Because a 2 GTB SSD drive would cost too much, I put a 1 TB HDD into the box to hold a couple large directories. This MB is the Ax version. This means it comes with a wireless/bluetooth chip. I've never been able to get firmware on a key to work for a wireless installation and always had to use an ethernet cable. This is the first time that autoconfiguraiton of wlab0 went like a charm without my having to provide firmware. The only hiccup wsa that Chimaera could only display a VGA screen resolution. I solved the probken by installing the kernel backport. I was surprised to find that the reso-lution it provided by default was HD--better than the WXGA I'v e been using for years. I may encounter problems down the road, b -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video (SUCCESS)
Once I knew that the issue was kernel support for MB hardware, upgrading to a backport kernel made sense. I did so, and the resolution is now where I want it. I thank everyone for their help and patience. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 06:11:20PM +0200, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > > Ludovic, thanks for the feedback. The Z590 chipset is new (March > > 2021), but I did see that someone had installed linux on it and so > > assumed it could be done. I don't see Gigabyte's specification of the > > video chip. > > > > The lspci command returns > > > > VGA compatible controller: Intel ... Device 4c8a (rev 04) > > (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) > > > > I don't care about the model of your motherboard, that's not really relevant. > Actually, no motherboard is very relevant anymore. You need to care about the > chips installed on them: iGPU/GPU/CPU. We still don't have that information, > and > we still don't know if your hardware is properly supported by the kernel, > firmware and drivers available from debian. Unfortunately I do not know how to identity the graphics chip, for the Gigabyte spec page does not provide it. > If your chip isn't yet supported by the kernel (which is doubtful for intel), > it'll fallback to known standards that every manufacturer should support. If > your display driver shows VESA, that's what I'm talking about. Since the > kernel > shipped by debian is usually old, check the backports and see if that version > will help you. But I first need to know if the backport kernel supports the graphics chip. There is a 15.5.rc6 backport for Debian. It seems worthwhile to try it out, but I don't know how to tell apt-get to intstall a backported kernel from a Debian site. > If there is something being displayed on your screen, you then have something > capable of computing graphics. I have no clue about the configuration of your > hardware, what's installed, what's available or not available. I don't know if > you have a GPU or if you don't. Sorry I thought I has said that I had no graphics card. I'm assuing that installing a graphic card is unlikely to get a resolution other than the deefault vga. > What is made available to you are both your screen capability and your graphic > card. The graphic card will do it's best do compute an image, and that's kind > of > all it does. There needs a synchronicity between the GPU and the screen > polling > rate. > > Your monitor carries an EDID (Extended Display Identification Data) which has > all the necessary information for the source (Xorg and co.) how to compute > compatible modes. If that can't be read or understood properly, you'll have a > limited display support or nothing at all. The software running on your > computer > will then be able to tell the GPU how and when to generate an image. > > I you want to know more about how to display an image on a screen, I invite > you > to watch Ben Eater's instructive videos: > > * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iURr3NBprc=498s > * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUTHtNrpwiI -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 07:19:06AM -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:32 PM Haines Brown wrote: > > > I just installed Chimera RC on a Gigabyte Z590 machine (incidentally > > it looks like I could autoconfigure wireless with providing firmware). > > When I installed xorg and fluxobox, the display was low resolution. > > Apparently it is a low resolution default. lxrandr offers no other > > accessible resolution. > > > > I here paste the return of inxi on my current machine and then on the > > installation of Chimaera. Neighter machine has a v ideo card. I'm not > > sure that to make of this. > > > > The old machine with good resolution > > > >Graphics: > > Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: > > kernel > > bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5912 > > Display: server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: > > fbdev > > failed: vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz s-dpi: 96 > > OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (Kaby Lake GT2) > > v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes > > > > On new machine with poor revoltuion > > > > Graphics: > > Device-l: Intel vendor: Gigabyte driver: N/A bus ID 00:02.0 > > chip ID: 8886:4c8a > > Display: serve: X.Org 1.20.11 drive: loaded: vesa > > unloaded: fbdev,modesetting resolution: 1024x768-76Hz s-dpi: 96 > > OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLM 11.0.1 256 b its) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 > > compat-w 3.1 direct render: Yes > > > > Help intrpreting this would be much appreciated. > > > > > xrandr will be your friend > > You use xrandr to define set and implement your monitors. The problem is that xxrandr sees only one mode $ xrandr -q xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Current, minumum and maximum are all 1024 x 768. Does this confirm Ludocico's suggestion that a video card will be of no help? The card has nothing to work with. I suppose gamma correction has nothing to do with dpi, but failure to get gamma correction suggests to me a firmware problem. > $ xrandr --verbose That returns the information I got above with $ xrandr -q > put at least the first 15 or 20 lines in your reply please. Identifier: 0x522 Timestamp: 3222412 Subpixel:unknown Clones: CRTC:0 CRTCs: 0 Transform : 1.00 (0 for each color) non-desktop: 0 supported 0, 1 then current resolution -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:24:08PM +0200, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > Hello Haines, > > Your issue isn't about the graphic card, but probably linked to your screen. I > do not know what a Gigabyte Z590 machine is, and can't look it up at the > moment, > but I would suggest that you'd research compatibility feedbacks for your > hardware. You'll find something if the machine is being used by members of the > FOSS community and there are serious issues. Ludovic, thanks for the feedback. The Z590 chipset is new (March 2021), but I did see that someone had installed linux on it and so assumed it could be done. I don't see Gigabyte's specification of the video chip. The lspci command returns VGA compatible controller: Intel ... Device 4c8a (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) > On the other hand, make sure that all firmware and drivers for your hardware > are > installed. To do that, make sure you have enabled the non-free and contrib > channels in your /etc/apt/sources.list. Then install firmware-linux. Someone running ubuntu lacked video and had luck by installing the 5.10.0-1019-oem kernel and updating some drivers to testing. But that was no screen at all, and others don't report the problem. The non-free and contrib were already specified in my sources.list. I had not installed firmware-linux but doing so made no diference. > That's for the firmware, as for the drivers, you'll need > xserver-xorg-video-all, that should install everything you need and > then more. You may also need xserver-xorg-video-intel if you GPU is > intel. They were both already installed. You imply it would do me no good to get and install a video card. That came as a surprise. I had assumed that it was the card is that made the dpi modes accessible. > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, Haines Brown wrote: > > > I just installed Chimera RC on a Gigabyte Z590 machine (incidentally > > it looks like I could autoconfigure wireless with providing firmware). > > When I installed xorg and fluxobox, the display was low resolution. > > Apparently it is a low resolution default. lxrandr offers no other > > accessible resolution. > > > > I here paste the return of inxi on my current machine and then on the > > installation of Chimaera. Neighter machine has a v ideo card. I'm not > > sure that to make of this. > > > > The old machine with good resolution > > > > Graphics: > > Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel > > bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5912 > > Display: server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: > > fbdev > > failed: vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz s-dpi: 96 > > OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (Kaby Lake GT2) > > v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes > > > > On new machine with poor revoltuion > > > > Graphics: > >Device-l: Intel vendor: Gigabyte driver: N/A bus ID 00:02.0 > >chip ID: 8886:4c8a > >Display: serve: X.Org 1.20.11 drive: loaded: vesa > >unloaded: fbdev,modesetting resolution: 1024x768-76Hz s-dpi: 96 > >OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLM 11.0.1 256 b its) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 > >compat-w 3.1 direct render: Yes > > > > Help intrpreting this would be much appreciated. > > > > -- > > Haines Brown -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
I just installed Chimera RC on a Gigabyte Z590 machine (incidentally it looks like I could autoconfigure wireless with providing firmware). When I installed xorg and fluxobox, the display was low resolution. Apparently it is a low resolution default. lxrandr offers no other accessible resolution. I here paste the return of inxi on my current machine and then on the installation of Chimaera. Neighter machine has a v ideo card. I'm not sure that to make of this. The old machine with good resolution Graphics: Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5912 Display: server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev failed: vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz s-dpi: 96 OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (Kaby Lake GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes On new machine with poor revoltuion Graphics: Device-l: Intel vendor: Gigabyte driver: N/A bus ID 00:02.0 chip ID: 8886:4c8a Display: serve: X.Org 1.20.11 drive: loaded: vesa unloaded: fbdev,modesetting resolution: 1024x768-76Hz s-dpi: 96 OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLM 11.0.1 256 b its) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 compat-w 3.1 direct render: Yes Help intrpreting this would be much appreciated. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Chimaera unknown interwork interface
With Beowulf, udev gave my wireless interface the name of a MAC address rather than wlan0. I thought the renaming would appear again with Chimaera, but not so. The wireless interface named wlan0. The ethernet interface remains eth0 although I expected it to be given its MAC address as well. My question, though, is a third interface that shows up and is not being used. enxf8e43b46877cc flags=4099 mtu 1500 ... The only devices are the motherboard ethernet and wireless chips. What is this interface? Incidentally, I installed Chimaera on a Gigabyte AORUS Z590 Ax motherboard and had no problems with the wireless autoconfiguration. The firmware in Chimaera worked nicely with the Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201 bluetooth/wireless module. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Chimaera: line wrap in terminal
When I upgraded to Chimara from Beowulf, I lost auto wrqp in mlterm. I gather from the xterm manual that auto-wrap is enabled by default. But I now see no such option in the mlterm manual. This is annoying enough that I may have to abandon mlterm. Any way to recover auto wrap or to define col width to 70? Another change that occurred is that I now need to define some inner border. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 06:09:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi hal, Haines, > > hal writes: > > > On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote: > >> I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of > >> this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports > >> bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no > >> reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong? > > > > The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with Bluetooth > > 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired LAN port as > > well. You might be able to use either, or both. > > > >> It also supports bluetooth, but I've no idea what is the use of a MB > >> bluetooth connection with a motherboard. > > > > As with any other chipset on that board, I would check that the Linux > > kernel (of your distro) includes support (kernel modules) for those > > electronics. > > > > Bluetooth is handy for wireless headsets and maybe other things, but I > > don't tend to use it myself. > > No experience yet but looking at a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse to get > rid of the cables on my (physical) desktop. > > Hope this helps, Thanks, Olaf, it did. A problem ia that I'm wedded to the old Intel M-5 keyboards and geting them to use Bluetooth sounds like a challenge. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:52:38PM -0500, hal wrote: > > > On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote: > > I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of > > this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports > > bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no > > reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong? > > The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with > Bluetooth 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired > LAN port as well. You might be able to use either, or both. Thanks for the help. In the past I looked on line to see whether folks had luck with a motherboard, but the Gigabyte Z-590 is too new. There are only hints it might work but also a problem or two has shown up. As the result I've not acquired any exprtise matching kernels and chipsets. For example, how did you find out that the AORIS wifi chiop appearss to be Intel GE? It is not specified in Gigabyte specs. Then I'm unsure how to find if whether a spefic kernel has a module for a specific chipset. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"
I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong? It also supports bluetooth, but I've no idea what is the use of a MB bluetooth connection with a motherboard. I'm not inclinded to pay the extra money to have wifi come enabled unless it actually worked. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] basilisk browser hangs
On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 09:24:10AM +0200, Antonio A. Rendina via Dng wrote: > On 06/09/21 21:48, Haines Brown wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 06:35:00PM +0200, al3xu5 wrote: > > > Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:00:52 -0400 - Haines Brown : > > > > > > > I've happily run the basilisk browser for a couple years, but recently > > > > it bagan to hang. On sites that are more demanding such as Amazon and > > > > eBay. When I do things there's a hang that lasts perhaps a minute. > Did you try to check operating system resources when the problem happens? > What the system is doing? How is the cpu, memory, drive, network? I tied the tests except drive (don't know what you meant by this) and network (no problem with it). I finally got a permanent hang of both keyboard and mouse which forced a dirth reboot. I eliminated basilisk and have been running smoootyly ever since. I suspect the problem had something to do with javascript and turbo download manager. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] basilisk browser hangs
On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 06:35:00PM +0200, al3xu5 wrote: > Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:00:52 -0400 - Haines Brown : > > > I've happily run the basilisk browser for a couple years, but recently > > it bagan to hang. On sites that are more demanding such as Amazon and > > eBay. When I do things there's a hang that lasts perhaps a minute. > Hi Haines > > It seems to me that you are assuming that the problem is linked to the > system software environment, but this does not seem to be proven. > > First of all: have you tried using other browser than Basilisk? Same > hanging with Firefox etc.? Yes. I run Firefox ESR as well and it does not see to have problems. Not sure what this implies about TSL certificates. > I don't know if Basilisk has some developer tools like Firefox or Chrome > (in Firefox-like browsers it is at the >Tools>Web Developer>Network menu or > Ctrl+Shist+E). > If Basilisk has this kind of tools, then you can use it to check if the > freezes during the loading of the pages is due to network-related > problems, even identifying the specific cause. That I tend to remove the memu keeps me from exploring its possiblities. I ran Network when accessing an eBay operation, and don't know how to interpret the result. One thing is that loading a gif image under show_ads.js tool took 163095650171... ms (ran out of space to display following numbers). But its status code is green OK. The x-xss-protection "1; mode=block" Request headers (3.157 KB) No idea how to interpret all this. My AdBlock Latitude is disabled. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] basilisk browser hangs
I've happily run the basilisk browser for a couple years, but recently it bagan to hang. On sites that are more demanding such as Amazon and eBay. When I do things there's a hang that lasts perhaps a minute. When I look at Basilisk's requirements I'm left unsure whether beowuld is up to them. It requires a 64-bit distribution, 1 Gb RAM, GTK+ 3.4 or hightr, GLib 2.22 or higher, Pango 1.14 or higher, X.Org 1.0 or higher (1.7 or higher recommended), lbstdc++ 4.61 or higher. Not sure but I suspect beowulf is runing GTK 3.0.0, and pango 1.0, etc. If so, it may be that the hangs are because my software is a bit dated. I tried clearing cache but it had no obvious effect. Would an upgrade to cimaera likely remove the hangs? I've done it on a couple systems without a problem, but not my production system. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] malfunctioning graphical application
I created a new account, logged into it, and yet find the problem in it as well. Root can drag cards but user cannot, This seems to rul out a miscoconfiguration of user. Because I had reinstalled aisleriot and I don't see others reporting a bug in aireriot, I do not suspect the application is brokken. I've got Chimaera installed on another disk and so when I can take break from work to boot it to see if the problem is found with it. I've got Beowuld installed on a laptop, and no problem dragging cards there. I've got Jessie intalled on an older machine and find no problem dragging cards there either. The problem seems in the X window system used by any account on the one disk. Sorry to drag this petty problem out, but it is an intellectual challenge. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] malfunctioning graphical application
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 10:22:35AM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > <--snip--> > > When you really have no idea where to start (after looking through > all logs, obviously)... > > Use 'ps' with the '-o cmd' option to find out *exactly* how the > executable is being invoked. After killing everything, paste the > command in a terminal window and execute it from there. Watch the > text that scrolls by in that terminal window for anything erroneous! Thanks for the response. I tried pulling keyboard and substituting another mouse, but that had no effect. Since I have no other odd behaviors using mouse to drag I'm not surprised. I powered down and then could not log beck in when I rebooted. Ran update-grub from Cimaera on another disk and for some obscure reason I could then log in. The problem with mouse-drag does not occur on the other disk disk. Purging aisleriot and reinstalling did not help I checked .xsession-errors and other logs and found no signs of trouble. I had trouble understanding your suggestion to use ps with -o cmd. For me, the -o option for the ps command is to specify format. Were you suggesting that I do: $ ps -o aisleriot ? Of note is that when I start /usr/games/sol as root the problem disappars---I can drag cards just fine. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] malfunctioning graphical application
The problem I'm facing is indeed petty, but I hope that help in my trying to resolve it will be more widely useful. To take a break from work and to refresh the mind I run a copy of Klondike from aisleriot. Suddenly for no apparently reason it ceased to function properly. When I click on a card it greys out as it shoud but I cannot then move it with the mouse. The greyed out card stays in place. If the problem were with the X system I assume it would show up elsewhere. I reinstalled aisle-riot. It affects all aisleriot games that require dragging, and so apparently it is a gtk problem. How does one troubleshoot a misbehaving graphical application? I played with gdb without really knowing what I was doing. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] grub-install device node not found [solved]
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 05:27:48PM +0200, aitor wrote: > Hi, > > On 4/8/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote: > > But I'd prefer to do the fix direclty within sdc chroot. Is there > > a utility in util-linux to make the node (/dev/sdc1 ?) visible? > > You need to include them in /etc/fstab to suit your needs, i guess. Thanks for the suggestion. In looking at fstab I found that term was no longer accessible. So I inistalled mlterm to look at /etc/fstab. I see that it still has the information I had earlier provided for it. That is, the UUID number for / etc. I worried about MBR. It is msdos as I would expect. Then I checked to see if it had content with # dd if=/dev/sdc of=mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 # od -xa mbr.bin The output of no use to me, but at least there exits an MBR with code. Otherwise I'd have to repartiion the disk In principle I have a fully operating system on the disk. There is a kernel and /boot/grub has its files. The only problem is I have no boot manager. Incidentally when I now try to run # update-grub it ends with device node not found Cannot find list of partitions! (Try mounting /sys.) So I tried to mount /sys within chroot: /# mount -t proc none /proc This did not oslve the problem. I tried from outide chroot: # mount -o bind /sys/ /mnt/devinst/sys Now # update-grub runs and successfully completes. It finds the linux and initrd images, but not those on other disks. I forget whether it can do so before a reboot. I used to do cross installs many years ago and loved it. The process today seems simpler than before. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] grub-install device node not found
On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 10:31:28PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 13:25:19 -0400, Haines wrote in message > <20210803172519.gg29...@engels.histomat.net>: > > > I'm doing a cross install of beowulf. BIOS is legacy. All goes well > > until the end when I run /#: grub-install /dev/sdc . > > > > Installing for i386-pc platform. > > device node not found > > ... > > Installation finished. No error reported. > > > > I should mention that when I initially ran the command my terminal > > (mlterm) crashed (that sometimes happens). So I had to chroot again > > to the mount point /mnt/devinst/ > > > > It seems that the grub-install cannot see the mbr on /dev/sdc > > ..is there one? 'fdisk -l ' or somesuch should work, even if > there are some new fancy /dev names missing symlinks to /dev/sdc, > e.g. killed by that mlterm crash. Indeed, fdisk-l returns nothing. There does exist a set of sdc* interfaces in /dev. What is the fix? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] grub-install device node not found
I'm doing a cross install of beowulf. BIOS is legacy. All goes well until the end when I run /#: grub-install /dev/sdc . Installing for i386-pc platform. device node not found ... Installation finished. No error reported. I should mention that when I initially ran the command my terminal (mlterm) crashed (that sometimes happens). So I had to chroot again to the mount point /mnt/devinst/ It seems that the grub-install cannot see the mbr on /dev/sdc -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] difficulty issuing commands
On Sun, Aug 01, 2021 at 01:59:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > The preceding paragraphs have a lot of articles (such as "it"), so I > can't be sure what you're saying, but it sounds like "the balance > program" is hogging CPU, so don't use it, or at least don't use it when > you're doing other work. If you're the author of the balance program, > find out what about it is hogging all CPU. Sorry. I compounded the obscurity by starting to call balance.bal backup.bal. The situation seems to indicate a problem in emacs bookmarks. The balance.bal is an emacs bookkeeping program. ~/.balance.bal has -rw-r--r-- permission that is simply a log of a bank account. It is manipulated by a set of commands to perform operations on it. So the .balance.bal file is simple and not a likely source of trouble. The problem is not with bookmarks, for if I try to open .balance.bal simply like any their file in emacs, I get the same problem. If it has not been opened for while the opening hangs with the spinning spiral. I have to stop the open process with Ctl-g and then then I can open it without a problem. I note wo things. One is that there's an array of .balance* files such as .balance.bal.bak that open right up. In emacss or nano. It is emacs that can't open .balance.bal on first try/ Also there is a symlink for .balance.bal: .#balance.bal -> haines@engels.3050:1627212275 'I'm delete it. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] difficulty issuing commands
On Sun, Aug 01, 2021 at 02:54:55AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Haines Brown said on Sat, 31 Jul 2021 21:54:56 -0400 > > >Sorry for the ambivalent subject line. > > > >I'm running Beowulf with Fluxbox window manager but without a desktop > >environment. Without knowing what might have triggered it, I find it > >laborious to start some applications from CLI. What happens is that > >I get a hang (little spiral rotates) until I kill the process with > >Crtl-g and try again. > > Do you mean Ctrl-c ? I've never heard of ctrl-g killing commands. > > [snip other weird intermittent symptoms] > > I'd start by collecting data: > > df -h >> data.txt No problems here. No partition is more than 50% > vmstat -S M >> data.txt I don't know how to interpret all the info. But here it is: procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system---cpu- r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa st 2 3 0162 5852 637000859539 10 3 86 1 0 Nothing here strike my eye > Also, run the htop command to see whether you're maxing out your CPUs. Wow! Don't like this result, It looks like for the four cores, number is running 100%. The others are low. Currently my machine is running an automatic bacvkup. I do not have a swap partition. Mem is 3.7G/15.6G In the display of processes, CPU runs 98-101% I'm runnng two sessions of emacs on two virtyual desktops and it is the second that is hogging CPU. I see that in fiddling to start balance program, I left it in hung state (spinning spiral). So now use C-g to stop the process. This is enacs for stop the process. Ctl-c has no effect on the emacs process. I now look to see what effect stopping the process has. Sure enough. My CPU is back to normal. My backup running in the background calls occasionally for as much as 30%. So I'm back to the problem that I cannot run ~/.backup.bal without. It may be that this is a problem specific to emacs. I'll take the further steps if you think wise. It maey be that the problem with .backup.bal is an oddity. I'm about to reconstruct the bookmark. The problem with accessing bank not understanding my browser until I try to acess a second time is probably irrelevant. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] difficulty issuing commands
Sorry for the ambivalent subject line. I'm running Beowulf with Fluxbox window manager but without a desktop environment. Without knowing what might have triggered it, I find it laborious to start some applications from CLI. What happens is that I get a hang (little spiral rotates) until I kill the process with Crtl-g and try again. Prbably happens with some commands but not others. For example, I have a ~/.balance.bal executable. I click it and nothing happens. Only a spining spiral that indicated a hang. I then kill the process with Ctl-g and click it a second time and this time it runs fine. This behavior seems to come and go. The beyavior happened perhaps about the same time that all entries in emacs bookmark were duplicated. For example: home-balance~/.balance.bal home-balance<2> ~/.balance.bal When I try to access my bank account it says my browser is out of date (I run Bassiliks and Firefox). When I exit the process and try again it has no problem with my browser and I can log in. Probably irrelevant but just recently I cannot run aisleriot klondike. When I click on a card it gets selected (greys out) as it should, but I can't drag card anywhere. I rebooted but no change. I reinstalled aisleriot but no change. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Hopman and inotify
I tried hopman some years ago and loved it, But when installed on a new machine failed copy the code. Would anyone indulge me by pointing to a link to the current stete of the application? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] AppArmor and TorBrowser
At some point my TorBrowser wouldn't start. When I try it displays error windows: Tor unexpectedly exited. This might be due to a bug in Tor itself, another program in your system, or faulty hardware. ... Tor exited during startup. This might be due to a bug in your torrc file or another program on your system, for faulty hardware. ... I look at the torrc file and it looks like nothing but a set of harmless links. My messages log tells me that AppArmor status for torBrowser is apparmor="DENIED". "denied_mask="r"" So I do # apparmor-status and find six processes are in enforce mode, including: /home/haines/.local/share/torbrowser/tbb/x86_64/ \ tor-browser_en-US/Browser/firefox.real (8708) torbrowser_firefox I do $ ps aux | grep 8708 haines8708 0.1 0.9 2517308 156740 pts/11 Sl 07:53 0:03 ./firefox.real --class Tor Browser -profile TorBrowser/Data/Browser/profile.default Killing process does not get me torBrowser back. I gather I could edit the profile in /etc/apparmor.d directly. There are two profiles there torbrowser.Tor.tor and torbrowser.Browser.firefox. I didn't know which to edit, and there was nothing obvious I should do to edit in them. Instead I simply removed and reinstalled the two profiles with: # apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/ # apparmor_parser -a /etc/apparmor.d/ That did not help, so I simply removed them. Then I'm supposed to inform the kern of this with: # echo -n “torbrowser.Browser.firefox” > /sys/kernel/security/apparmor/.remove Byt get: -bash: echo: write error: No such file or directory This is becasue my /sys/kernel/security/apparmor/ directory holds no .remove file. I still can't start torbrowser. I don't want to breask things by going any further such as creating a .remove file and adding the two lines to it: torbrowser.Browser.firefox torBrowser.Tor.tor -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] tor browser can't see current drive
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:24:10PM +0100, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > And what is the question? Sorry that I was unclear: I cannot save the data displayed or accessed on my browser. For example I have an extension "Save as PDF". When I try to save the displayed page as a DPF, whatever directory I try to save to returns "Could not read the contents to ". This because Tor Browser it is trying to save to a paritition on an unmounted drive. I cannoit save to any other drive because it only only sees /dev/sdc partitions. > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 16:33:13 -0500 > Haines Brown wrote: > > > Whether I install torbrowser-launcher from Beowulf repository or > > download it from www.torproject.org, I find that it insists on > > saving files to no longer mounted drive. > > > > When I browse other save locations, all locations are /dev/sdc, and > > those locations are not accessible. I cannot write to the "save files > > as" field in download preferences. When I set always ask where to > > save, I can set the locationin preferences, but I'm not actually > > asked where to save it. > > > > Some time ago /dev/sdc was mounted, but not used for tor browser. I > > could not find in what file the tor browser configuration is located. > > I have firefox-esp installed, but it does not have the problem. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] tor browser can't see current drive
Whether I install torbrowser-launcher from Beowulf repository or download it from www.torproject.org, I find that it insists on saving files to no longer mounted drive. When I browse other save locations, all locations are /dev/sdc, and those locations are not accessible. I cannot write to the "save files as" field in download preferences. When I set always ask where to save, I can set the locationin preferences, but I'm not actually asked where to save it. Some time ago /dev/sdc was mounted, but not used for tor browser. I could not find in what file the tor browser configuration is located. I have firefox-esp installed, but it does not have the problem. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] muttpring broken pipe
I'm running mut and muttprint on Bwowulf. I decided to customize muttprint and so copied /usr/share/doc/muttprint/sample-muttprintrc-en to ~/.muttprintrc. When this file is present I get error "cat: write error: Broken pipe". The values in .muttprintrc are their defaults. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] devuan and debootstrap
On Sat, Dec 05, 2020 at 01:25:07PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 05 December 2020 at 12:52:27, Haines Brown wrote: > > > I wanted to do a cross install of Beowulf 3.1 on a spare disk to test > > it. Howver, deboostrap does not seem to be in the devuan > > repository. > > Huh? > > # aptitude show debootstrap > Package: debootstrap My mistake. Sorry. I tried to use cdebootstrap but got the "Couldn't validate Release!" error because cdebootstrap lacks the option --no-check-ppg. I has the impression this was supopsed to be fixed in cdebootsrtrap. I was about to use wget because that is what debootstrap uses. Would the result of using wget be the same as deboostrap? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] devuan and debootstrap
I wanted to do a cross install of Beowulf 3.1 on a spare disk to test it. Howver, deboostrap does not seem to be in the devuan repository. Any reason for this? Any reason I should not steal it from the Debian repository and install it locally? I was going to install default Beowulf (Beowult 3.0 ?) but is there any way I can use deboostrap to access Beowulf 3.1 directly to install it? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] problematic mouse driver?
I infer from those kind enough to answer that my problem getting the mouse to paste what it scanned is not unusual. When the problem shows up again I'll try to paste with both mouse buttons rather than the button. My wireless mouse did not work at all, but now for some reason it does. I can paste scanned text in my Basilisk browser here to nano (my mail editor). -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] problematic mouse driver?
About the time I upgraded to Bwowulf I experienced periodic problems having the mouse pasting scanneted text with middle mouse button. I find that sometimes the mouse remembers scanned text but then is unable to paste it. The problem comes and goes with my wired mouse but is always present with my wireless mouse. It primarily occurs when copying text from a GUI application such as displayed by a browser and then pastting it into a text based application such as nano. But I find that I can (usually?) correct the problem by scanning and pasting a bit of text in nano and then do it with a GUI application. Anyone have any idea of what might be going on? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Iceweasel-uxp from Hyperbola GNU/Linux
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 01:59:19PM +0200, aitor wrote: > Hi Haines, > > Since the i386 packages need to be cross-compiled, iceweasel-uxp is not > available in > packages.gnuinos.org for now; so, you need to download them one by one. You > can install > the packages via: > > # dpkg -i *.deb Aha! Now I understand. I downloaded the iceweasel-uxp tarball, but having a problem compiling it: $ aclocal aclocal: warning: autoconf input should be named 'configure.ac', not 'configure.in' Make complains it can't find a make file. Sorry to be so ill-informed. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Iceweasel-uxp from Hyperbola GNU/Linux
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:36:12PM +0100, fraser kendall wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 12:51:29 +0200
> Antony Stone wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 10 September 2020 at 12:39:17, Haines Brown wrote:
> >
> > > This is wonderful news to a user of Palemoon/basilisk. However
> > > installing it failed because of my ignorance:
> > >
> > > $ sudo apt-get install ./iceweasel-uxp-dev
> > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > E: Unsupported file ./iceweasel-uxp-dev given on commandline
> > >
> > > $ sudo apt-get
> > > install ./iceweasel-uxp-dev_2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1_amd64.deb
> >
> > Try "dpkg -i"
> >
> > Antony.
> >
> I managed it with:
>
> dpkg -i ./iceweasel-uxp_2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1_amd64.deb
> apt-get install -f
>
> fraser
It seems iceweasal-uxp-dev depends on iceweasel-uxp, which is not
available in the Beowulf package repository:
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
iceweasel-uxp-dev : Depends: iceweasel-uxp (= 2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1) but
it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
I find now
$ aptitude search iceweasel-uxp
BB iceweasel-uxp-dev - Safe and easy...
No idea what the BB status means. I try to install this from the
package archive
# aptitude install -f iceweasel-uxp-dev
The following partially installed packages will be configured:
iceweasel-uxp-dev{b}
...
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
iceweasel-uxp-dev : Depends: iceweasel-uxp (= 2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1)
which is a virtual package and is not provided by any available
package
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
1) iceweasel-uxp-dev [2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1 (now)]
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
Removing iceweasel-uxp-dev (2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1) ...
Current status: 0 (-1) broken, 132 (-1) new.
Now the BB iceweasel-uxp-dev is no longer in my package cache.
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Re: [DNG] Iceweasel-uxp from Hyperbola GNU/Linux
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:51:29PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 10 September 2020 at 12:39:17, Haines Brown wrote: > > > $ sudo apt-get install ./iceweasel-uxp-dev_2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1_amd64.deb > > Try "dpkg -i" Thanks Antony. # dpkg -i iceweasel-uxp-dev_2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1_amd64.deb Selecting previously unselected package iceweasel-uxp-dev. (Reading database ... 150048 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack iceweasel-uxp-dev_2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking iceweasel-uxp-dev (2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of iceweasel-uxp-dev: iceweasel-uxp-dev depends on iceweasel-uxp (= 2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1); however: Package iceweasel-uxp is not installed. dpkg: error processing package iceweasel-uxp-dev (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: iceweasel-uxp-dev The problem seems to be that iceweasel-uxp-dev depends on iceweasel-uxp, which is not in the Beowulf package archive. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Iceweasel-uxp from Hyperbola GNU/Linux
This is wonderful news to a user of Palemoon/basilisk. However installing it failed because of my ignorance: $ sudo apt-get install ./iceweasel-uxp-dev Reading package lists... Done E: Unsupported file ./iceweasel-uxp-dev given on commandline $ sudo apt-get install ./iceweasel-uxp-dev_2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1_amd64.deb Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Note, selecting 'iceweasel-uxp-dev' instead of './iceweasel-uxp-dev_2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1_amd64.deb' Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: iceweasel-uxp-dev : Depends: iceweasel-uxp (= 2.9-1~3.0gnuinos1) but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. I tried full path and adding version and .deb extension. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] history
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 03:31:11PM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > Just commenting that your comment makes me laugh, seeing so many people like > you, I invite you to visit my country and look at reality, and find out in > the conditions we live and how much achievements we have achieved, but not > looking at foxnews. > > Best Regards > -- > Ismael Thanks, but already visited your country twice. Once to read a paper and once to tour with the IFCO. These visits were wonderful experiences. The people were extraordinarily fiendly, discussions were quite frank, the Cuban achievements impressive despite limitations. I'd love to known how devuan or even debian fares there. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 05:33:16PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > My bad, changed from '#!/bin/bash' syntax to '#!/bin/sh' > > # this must follow immediately after the mount command > if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then > echo "Mount Failed!" > exit 1 > fi I'll give it a try. Thanks. > Easy access to files is exactly why I use 'rsync', no need to go down the > painful > 'restore master backup' followed by 'restore all further incremental backups'. > Plus it only copies as required and optionally backs up the backup. > So you get protection against 'User' error as well as device failure. > Trust me on this, read the 'rsync' manual. I'll look into that. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 01:38:57PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 12:02:37PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11:46AM +0200, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > > > Haines Brown [07.08.2020 18:19]: > > > > > > > Yes, for sure. If you are right about the speed difference between > > > > NTFS and ext4, then is there another FS that can be accessed by a > > > > Windows machine that is not much slower than ext4? > > > > > > fat32. Or if you run a recent kernel on your Linux machine (Devuan 5.4 > > > is ok), then exfat. > > > -- > > > Hilsen Harald > > > > Hilsen, going to fat32 might be my bset bet if its speed is more like > > ext4 than ntfs. Is it the consensus that this is the case? > > Isn't there a limit on the number of data blocks you can have > on a FAT volume? > Meaning that for large volumes you end up with absurdly large blocks. > And because you can't pack multiple files into a data block, this limits > the number of files you can have. With a sector of 512 bytes, it fat32 is apparently limit to 2 Tb. I'm unclear whether a limit on the number of files becomes a problem. Vfat might be analternative. > > -- hendrik > _______ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS
On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11:46AM +0200, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > Haines Brown [07.08.2020 18:19]: > > > Yes, for sure. If you are right about the speed difference between > > NTFS and ext4, then is there another FS that can be accessed by a > > Windows machine that is not much slower than ext4? > > fat32. Or if you run a recent kernel on your Linux machine (Devuan 5.4 > is ok), then exfat. > -- > Hilsen Harald Hilsen, going to fat32 might be my bset bet if its speed is more like ext4 than ntfs. Is it the consensus that this is the case? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS
On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 02:53:13PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote:
> >
> >> Post your backup script for others to look over.
> >
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > a="="
> > b="Start: "
> > c=$(date)
> > mount /mnt/backup &
>
> 1) Don't do this in the background, script execution will proceed straight
> into the 'find' command below before the mount is ready.
Indeed, I think that has happened upon occassion (backup to mount
point rather than to backup drive).
> 2) Ensure you are mounting using 'ntfs-3g' or you will get a large
> performance hit and unsafe writes (last time I checked the Docs).
> E.g. /etc/fstab
>/dev/XXX /mnt/backup ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
> Or in the script
> 'ntfs-3g /dev/XXX /mnt/backup
I changed from ntfs to ftfs-3g in fstab, but didn't see any signficant
gain in back up speed. However the script no longer hangs if if finds
the drive already mounted. It complains but proceeds with the backup.
>
> 3) abort if the mount fails
> [ $? -eq 0 ] || {echo "Mount Failed!"; exit 1;}
I put this line into my backup script and only got a syntax error.
> > find /mnt/backup/20* -maxdepth 0 -type d | sort -n | head -n 1 | xargs rm
> > -rfv
> > sleep 3s
> > dirName=`date +%Y.%m.%d`
> > mkdir /mnt/backup/"$dirName"
> > find / -print | egrep
> > "^/mnt^/var^/mail|^/home|^/etc|^/opt|^/storage|^/info|^/usr/local" | cpio
> > -pdmuv /mnt/backup/"$dirName" 2>&1 | cat -vT
> > d="End:"
> > e=$(date +%H:%M:%S)
> > f="Disk used: "
> > g=`df /mnt/backup | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $5}'`
> > printf "$a \n $b $c \n $d $e \n $f %s\n" "$g" >> /home/haines/.backup.log
>
> You are backing up files that have not changed since the last backup.
> Do you really need all of that kerfuffle ?
The only price paid for the "kerfuffle" is the expense of a large
backup disk and the extra time that a backup takes in the backgroundñ.
In the past (back in my OS/2 days) I did incremental backups, but
since then like easy access to files that have not changed. Of course
the majority of people are not inclinded to see thigs this way.
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Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:17:06PM -0400, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > I just mounted up an NTFS mount on my Ascii desktop. It loaded up fairly > quickly. Any other operation such as opening a folder with a lot of entries > took a very long time. This is on a Seagate Baracuda 1TB plugged into a > generic drive dock and connected by USB 3.0. > > I would say that the NTFS driver is not a speedy thing. You might try the > noatime option and see if that speeds things up. > > --Curtis Unfortunately, noatime in fstab did nothing for me. It may have cut time from 10 to 8 hours, but not sure. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote:
> Check your logs for USB Bus resets, any device on the USB bus can
> cause these which will add seconds for every occurrence (a USB TV
> stick can make a backup crawl).
Nothing in logs. But I don't unserstand this DBus syslog message that
comes up every second or so:
Aug 7 09:29:26 engels brltty[720]: DBus error: send message:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.bluez was not
provided by any .service file
> Post your backup script for others to look over.
#!/bin/bash
a="="
b="Start: "
c=$(date)
mount /mnt/backup &
find /mnt/backup/20* -maxdepth 0 -type d | sort -n | head -n 1 | xargs rm -rfv
sleep 3s
dirName=`date +%Y.%m.%d`
mkdir /mnt/backup/"$dirName"
find / -print | egrep
"^/mnt^/var^/mail|^/home|^/etc|^/opt|^/storage|^/info|^/usr/local" | cpio
-pdmuv /mnt/backup/"$dirName" 2>&1 | cat -vT
d="End:"
e=$(date +%H:%M:%S)
f="Disk used: "
g=`df /mnt/backup | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $5}'`
printf "$a \n $b $c \n $d $e \n $f %s\n" "$g" >> /home/haines/.backup.log
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Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:57:18PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > It is extremely slow, but I am unsure just how slow, but 3-4 times slower > sounds about right. Wow! > If the drive is never plugged into a Windows machine, then there is no point > in it being formatted as NTFS. I do not have clients. I'm well past life expectancy, and so I need to know that my grandchildren can simply plug the drive into a Windows machine or Mac to access the files. > , but it would be better formatted with ext4 or another Linux > filesystem. Yes, for sure. If you are right about the speed difference between NTFS and ext4, then is there another FS that can be accessed by a Windows machine that is not much slower than ext4? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 03:58:40PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > Do you use the USB drive on Windows, if not, just reformat it to ext4, > ntfs-3g is a FUSE system, it isn't a fast as you would like. Thanks Roland. I left the drive NTFS because I wanted easy access to the drive for folks (granschildren) who do not run Linux. Othersie I prefer ext4. When you say NTFS is slower, to you mean three times slower (which I am experiencing) or a bit slower? When my mount command in script encounters an already mounted device formatted ext4 it complains but also proceeds. If the defive is formattted NTFS it complains but also and hangs. That is another reason to prefer ext4, but I wonder if the # mount -F would avoid the NTFS hang. That is, does NTFS mount exclusively by deault, while ext4 does not? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] How to mount NTFS
Cron automatiically backs up some partitions on my HD by means of a script. Not sure of the size of thse backupos, but perhaps 300 Mb. I have been doing the backups to an external WD USB drive, and they took around 3 hours. However, I became nervous about the condition of the drive which is quite old, and so bought a 2 Tb replacement. Now the back up takes 10 hours. The only thing that I can think of that might account for its being slow is that my old WD drive was formatted ext4, but I thought best to leave my new drive with NTFS. This causes a problem in that if the backup drive happens to be mounted, the mount command in my script no longer just tells me so and proceeds with the backup, but instead hangs. The other problem may be that for some reason the disk being NTFS drastically slows the backup. So it occurred to me to make the command in the script to mount the drive: mount -t ntfs /mnt/backup (I have the drive's UUID in fstab). But when I check /proc/filesystems, ntfs apparently is not recognized by the kernel. However, my impression is that my having the ntfs-3g rw driver installed should enable me to mount a NTFS partion wtihout problem or need for the -t ntfs option. I checked my CPU instuctions/second. The services started at bootime have not changed. The # top command does not show any problems. $ free suggests I'm not demanding too much of my RAM. # iotop shows that my backup process I/O demand on the kernel runs 50-100%. The kworker flush can be 100%. My guess is that these figures are to be expected. I run the backup at a time when no other significant processes are running. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] history
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 09:53:51AM +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 8/7/20 12:36 AM, marc wrote: > > People being easily identified and > > tracked in real life is something that strengthens authoritarian regimes > > (whether fascist or communist) as well coercive corporate interests. > > there were no communist authoritarian regimes in history.. communist by > name perhaps, but in reality, authoritarian = fascist.. > > so please don't reproduce neoliberal b*shit... Thank you for making this point. Even the fear of being tracked is superficial. My wife tracks me, and that is a good thing. The real issue is what effect being tracked has on me. While authoritarianism is much in the air these days, I suspect a far greater danger is social death. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...
Marc, your insights much appreciated. Interesting, though, is a certain generation gap. Security these days seems to refer to personal information that evil doers can exploit to deprive you of your poions. I'm a product of the Great Depresssion, and so security for me fixates on political snooping. I'm less concerned about being ripped off than looming fascism. I'm not suggsting your concern is not important, jut that it is not the same as my own. For me security refers primarily to file access. This takes me back to my question. If I craete a new user, named zoom for example, and have it run zoom, won't that limit access files on my HD? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Zoom?
On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 10:17:26PM +0100, ael wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 03:39:53PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 01:34:59PM +0100, ael wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:58:26PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > > > > problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. > > > > > > > > But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to download > > > > debian's zoom .deb? > > > > Incidenttally is there a public site that one can use to test zoom? > > There is an automated test session on the zoom site. Good plac to check > out audio and video setting. It does *not* require pulseaudio: it works > with simple alsa. Thank you. Now I see the link to the test site. Interestingly, my laptop from whih I've been running zoom fails to open the test site (the Open link dialog hangs). My desktop does just fine. me? To what extent would I achieve some security if I were to create a new account, say named zoom, and run zoom in it? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Zoom?
On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 01:34:59PM +0100, ael wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:58:26PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > > problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. > > > > But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to download > > debian's zoom .deb? I've enjoyed and benefitted from this discussion, and I thank one and all. I've installed the .deb file on my bewowulf 3 deskotop. It seems like it would work. I'll give it try next time ther is a zoom meeting. Incidenttally is there a public site that one can use to test zoom? I gave up trying to install zoom in on an old ASCII machine because all the dependencies. I understand the security advantages of using zoom on a laptop not much used for anything else. I suppose the sercurity conern is files being accessible to intruders. Someone made the interesting suggestion of settin up a new account just for zoom. What is wrong with this? Could zoom be used to access files not owned by user? I should mention the the problem running zoom on my laptop (Thknkpad X250). After a short shile (a few minutes) I loose outgoing sound. I have video and sound in, but sound out out stops. I do nothing to the machine during the sesison. This happens each time I run zoom. Anyone have any ideas? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Zoom?
I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to download debian's zoom .deb? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] terminal paste failure
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 11:41:18PM +0200, richard lucassen via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 10:02:05 -0400 > Haines Brown wrote: > > > This morning I find that the wiress mouse can cut and paste between > > terminals or nano sessions even with the wired mouse disconnected. > > Whether the problem is permanently in the past remains to be seen. > > Try "reset" in the terminal, sometimes this helps. See "man reset" for > more info. Richard, thanks for the suggestion. I had never encountered tset or reset. Don't need it now because copy/paste continues to work as it should. Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] terminal paste failure
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 05:36:05PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Last night for some reason I can no lonter paste text selected in > nano to another nano document with the middle mouse button. It seems > to have failed in the course of the night. > ... > However, an old wired USB mouse does not suffer from the problem. > > Haines Brown This morning I find that the wiress mouse can cut and paste between terminals or nano sessions even with the wired mouse disconnected. Whether the problem is permanently in the past remains to be seen. Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] terminal paste failure
Last night for some reason I can no lonter paste text selected in nano to another nano document with the middle mouse button. It seems to have failed in the course of the night. I've been running Beowulf ever since the beta. I don't have a desktop environment but rely on fluxbox for window management. The problem affects both root and user. It does not affect selecting and pasting between GUI applications such aa emacs. It affects both eterm and mlterm. eTerm puzzles me. I installed xterm, but it runs eterm. Clearing the caches did not help: $ xsel -cp && xsel -cs && xsel -cb Selected text shows up in xcliboard, and so the problem seems to be with pasting. I tried Ctl-Shift-c and Ctl-Shift-v without luck. I tried Ctl-w to cut a work, but Ctl-y did not paste it. I repladed the (wireless) mouse and used it in a different port. Reconfiguring xserver-xorg and rebooting did not help. However, an old wired USB mouse does not suffer from the problem. Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] download image ISO of beowulf
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:13:25AM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > Is there any image ISO of beowulf that can be downloaded from some site? > > Best Regards > -- > Ismael It seems most folks, like myself, got BEOWULF by upgraded from ASCII. I gather official ISOs are made available only for stabe releases. There were problems using the mini.iso installer. Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mlterm to display path in window frame
I apologize for the time gap, but ill health put me out of
commission for two months.
My aim was to have mlterm behave like xterm and display the current
path in its frame.
The mltem accepts a value for -T that specifies the title for the
mlterm window. In a terminal if I issue the command: $ mlterm -T $PWD
I get the current path displayed as I want.
If in ~/.mlterm/main I put the line: title = $PWD, the window of
mlterm displays $PWD literally rather than current path.
Assuming mlterm is a variant of xterm, I should be able to set the
window title by placing this stanza into /etc/profile
if [ "$TERM" = "xterm" ]; then
PS1="\033]2;\u@\h:\w\007bash$ "
fi
I tried
if [ "$TERM" = "xterm" ]; then
PS1="$PWD"
fi
but neither had any effect. There is nothing in .mlterm/msg.log
If I launch from a CLI with the command $ mlterm -T $PS1 the window
displays: ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$
If I launch form CLI with the command: $ mlterm -T $PWD it works
as desired.
At Arnt Karlsen's suggesttion, I took a look at
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html,
https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/terminfo.src.html#tic-mlterm,
https://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html#h2-Title-Modes
but it did not help.
It was suggesed that mlterm might understand the tsl escape sequence.
$ tput hsl
tput: unknown terminfo capability 'hsl'
$ tput tsl ; echo -n hellow ; tput fsl
[nothing returned]
If I type
export TERM=xterm+sl
and then do
$ tput hsl
tput: unknown terminfo capability 'hsl'
$ tput tsl ; echo -n hello ; tput fsl
[nothing returns]
$ infocomp mlterm | grep tsl
[nothing returns]
$ infocmp xterm+sl | grep tsl
dsl=\E]0;\007, fsl=^G, tsl=\E]0;,
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Re: [DNG] VMware segmentation fault
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 01:28:51PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 21:37:44 +, Rowland wrote in message > : > > > > I should also point out that Windows 7 and 8 are both EOL. > > ..still worth running in vm's to figure, test etc out how to help > your new etc clients escape those moribound OS'es. ;o) > > ..and I have a vague memory of a Microsoft Windows NT version with > a 120 day life span meant for Microsoft Windows NT re-installation > training 25 or so years back, did they make more such short life > versions? Actually, I believe I still have one of those old NT CDROMS. Thanks for remininding me. Haines ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] VMware segmentation fault
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 09:37:44PM +, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > On 19/01/2020 21:22, Haines Brown wrote: > > It been ten years since I've installed a virtual machine under Linux, > > and things have changed. > > > > I downloaded and ran VMware-Player-3.1.1-282343.x86_64.bundle to > > install VMware Player with success. > > The second command starts a vmware process, but I gather I should > > expect a VMware window to pop up. Roland, you suggest: > I suspect running it this way will require a desktop, I mean it is hardly > likely to pop up something on a desktop that isn't there ;-) You raise an intestesing point. For decades I've run all sorts of applications from a CL ñthat raise windows with a window manager but without my having any desktop. I never experienced this problem before. I always thought of a DE as a set of toys that are on top of and share a graphical environment, the X Windows System that I have installed and is independent of any DE. > Try reading the man page. Man vmware is about the video driver for virtual video cards. Its configuration does not seem to affect whether or not a window is displayed. > I should also point out that Windows 7 and 8 are both EOL. I mentioned antiques because I thought maybe they could be picked up for a song. Haines ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] VMware segmentation fault
It been ten years since I've installed a virtual machine under Linux, and things have changed. I downloaded and ran VMware-Player-3.1.1-282343.x86_64.bundle to install VMware Player with success. Howver, I have trouble starting it. I have no desktop. Does that make a differnce? $ vmplayer & [1] 25824 haines@engels:~$ /usr/bin/vmplayer: line 35: 25827 Segmentation fault "$BINDIR"/vmware-modconfig --appname="VMware Player" --icon="vmware-player" Is this a bug in the Player? Or must it be started by root? $ sudo vmplayer & [2] 25851 The second command starts a vmware process, but I gather I should expect a VMware window to pop up. I would like to run Windows 7 or 8 in a virtual machine. Any way to get it cheaply? Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 02:58:10PM -0500, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
> Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system
> to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real
> thing.
Did the upgrade in June ñto Beowuld with fluxbox rather than desktop,
and subsequently upgraded Beowulf twice. No major problems. The
following may not be real problems, but thought best to throw them
out for consideration. I initially had the problem of
occassionally being unable to close a terminal (mlterm), but no longer.
1. .xsession-errors:
xmodmap: unable to open file '/home/haines/.Xmodmap' for reading. Why
no config file?
07:38:37.106 [AWT-EventQueue-0] WARN net.sf.jabref.JabRefGUI - There
seem to be problems with OpenJDK and the default GTK Look Using
Metal L instead. Change to another L with caution.
console.error: itdmanager:
error
Message: TypeError: session.kill.days.failed is not a function
ALSA lib pcm.c:8424:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred
ERROR alsa.cc:525 [pause]: snd_pcm_pause failed: Input/output error.
ERROR alsa.cc:525 [pause]: snd_pcm_pause failed: File descriptor in
bad state.
2. dmesg errors
[1272146.575622] ata3.00: error: { ICRC ABRT }
[1272147.052672] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#11 Add. Sense: Scsi parity
error
[1272147.052680] print_req_error: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 292808664
res 43/84:08:f8:5a:d2/00:00:25:00:00/00
Emask 0x410 (ATA bus error)
[4297652.707343] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#19 Add. Sense: Scsi parity
error
[4297652.707349] print_req_error: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 747789456
3. fetcmail
The new fetchmail 6.4.0 may have problems. It seeks an SSL
certificate and, finding none, breaks the connection. I worked
around this by inserting the line 'sslproto " ' into
.fetchmailrc.
4. exim
The file /etc/exim4/passwd.client could not be read by exim. It
was -rw-r- 1 root saned 653 Oct 29 12:17 passwd.client
and since I'm in saned group, I should be able to read it. I
changed permissions to -rw-r--r-- to get SMTP authentication.
5. bluetooth
In syslog: Nov 22 06:42:04 engels brltty[724]: DBus error: send
message: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.bluez was not provided by any .service file
Solution was to install bluez
6. dmesg
I find that $ sudo sysctl -w kernel.dmesg_restrict=0 enables
user to run dmesg, but my impression this does not survive a reboot.
Can't reboot now to check.
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Re: [DNG] With popcorn, sender address not recognized
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 07:22:56PM +, g4sra wrote: > On 24/12/2019 13:42, Haines Brown wrote: > > Every once in a while I get this message: ,,, > >> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > >> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) > >> failed: > >> > >> sur...@popcon.devuan.org > >>host mail.guardedhost.com [2607:fe90:1:1::1e] > >> SMTP error from remote mail server after pipelined MAIL > >> +FROM: SIZE=27816 AUTH=r...@engels.histomat.net: > >> 553 5.7.1 : Sender address rejected: > >>not owned by user bro...@historicalmaterialism.info > >> > >> [-- Attachment #2 --] > >> [-- Type: message/delivery-status, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.3K --] > >> > >> Reporting-MTA: dns; engels.histomat.net > >> > >> Action: failed > >> Final-Recipient: rfc822;sur...@popcon.devuan.org > >> Status: 5.0.0 > >> Remote-MTA: dns; mail.guardedhost.com > >> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 5.7.1 : Sender address > >> rejected: > >> +not owned by user bro...@historicalmaterialism.info > > It seems popcorn is sending its message from r...@histomat.net, but > > this address not owned by user. The diagnostic code saeems to say that > > the d...@list.dyne.org recipient does not recognize r...@histomat.net. > > > > I believe it is complaining that histomat.net does not belong to > historicalmaterialism.info I don't think "it" here can refer my mail server or dng list because other mail gets throughn OK. I did not experience this problem before upgrading from Ascii to Beowulf. In the error message above, it says FROM is root#histomat.net. Not sure, but I don't think that is a valid address outside my local system. Please correct me if I am wrong. So in /usr/share/popularity-contest/default.conf I uncommented the MAILFROM= line and provided my user address to see if it corrects the problem. The popularity info is sent weekly, and so I suppose I should wait a week to see if this solves the problem. Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] With popcorn, sender address not recognized
Every once in a while I get this message: > Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 14:31:09 -0500 > From: Mail Delivery System > To: r...@engels.histomat.net > Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender > > [-- Attachment #1 --] > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.5K --] > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) > failed: > > sur...@popcon.devuan.org >host mail.guardedhost.com [2607:fe90:1:1::1e] > SMTP error from remote mail server after pipelined MAIL > +FROM: SIZE=27816 AUTH=r...@engels.histomat.net: > 553 5.7.1 : Sender address rejected: >not owned by user bro...@historicalmaterialism.info > > [-- Attachment #2 --] > [-- Type: message/delivery-status, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.3K --] > > Reporting-MTA: dns; engels.histomat.net > > Action: failed > Final-Recipient: rfc822;sur...@popcon.devuan.org > Status: 5.0.0 > Remote-MTA: dns; mail.guardedhost.com > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 5.7.1 : Sender address > rejected: > +not owned by user bro...@historicalmaterialism.info > > [-- Attachment #3 --] > [-- Type: message/rfc822, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 25K --] > > Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 14:31:08 -0500 > From: root > To: sur...@popcon.devuan.org > Subject: popularity-contest submission > > -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- > ... Although this is an email address issue, it only happens with popcorn, and so I suspect the popcorn appolication is doing something wrong. I don't have problems with emails to others. I'm running Beowulf and using mutt as mailer. The mail.guardedhost.com is my mail server. It seems popcorn is sending its message from r...@histomat.net, but this address not owned by user. The diagnostic code saeems to say that the d...@list.dyne.org recipient does not recognize r...@histomat.net. Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] frozen messages from dng-bounces
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 07:55:27AM +1100, terryc wrote: > Just my 2c. > > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 07:51:40 -0500 > Haines Brown wrote: > > > I periodically get frozen messages alerts from dng-bounces. Sometimes > > several in a day; sometimes every few days. The time of the message > > is random. ... > So, in summary, it is a setting in your mailer that creates the error > messages. As a guess you need to relax a time parameter in that your > mailer is closing receipt of header too quickly or the link is dropping > out. In .muttrc, I changed set time inc=250 to inc=500 ms, and that seems to have solved the problem. Thanks. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] frozen messages from dng-bounces
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 07:55:27AM +1100, terryc wrote: > Just my 2c. > > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 07:51:40 -0500 > Haines Brown wrote: > > > I periodically get frozen messages alerts from dng-bounces. Sometimes > > several in a day; sometimes every few days. The time of the message > > is random. > > That corresponds with the frequency of messages to the list. Are you saying the frequency corresponds to messages subscribers send to the list? It does not correspond to my own messages to the list. > > I'm runing beowulf. Here is an example > > > > > Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 13:48:21 -0500 > > > From: Mail Delivery System > > > To: postmaster@engels.histomat.netSender: "Dng" > > > Subject: Message frozen > > > > > > Message 1igYwF-0002qx-Da has been frozen (delivery error message). > > > The sender is <>. > > > > > > The following address(es) have yet to be delivered: > > > dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org: SMTP error from remote mail server > > > after > > > pipelined > > > +MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=5953: 554 5.7.1 Empty Sender Address is > > > prohibited > > > through this server > > > > Is my mailer telling me it has frozen a message from dng-bounces > > because its FROM: field is empty? > > Correct. what mailer are you running and what setting are you using > to cull empty sender messages. I'm using mutt. In .muttrc I do not have anything that seems to cull empty sender messages. I do specify what header fields to use: > ignore * > unignore from: subject to cc date x-mailer x-url user-agent To detect loops I have: > unset bounce_delivered > set mixmaster="mixmaster-filter" > >Why is dng-bounces sending me messages? > Probably because all messages I receive from the lists have > Sender: "Dng" > as the sender. Aha! > So, in summary, it is a setting in your mailer that creates the error > messages. As a guess you need to relax a time parameter in that your > mailer is closing receipt of header too quickly or the link is dropping > out. In .mailrc I have: > set time_inc=250 I'll try 500 ms so see how things go. Thanks for the help. Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
