Re: [DNG] Nvidia Drivers

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 07:45:11 -0400, zap wrote in message 
<733bb945-c664-c361-2690-17402dbdb...@posteo.de>:

> 
> > Was X working before you tried the nvidia driver?
> > Does /etc/xorg.conf exist now? If so, rename it so you can revert
> > to a working X.
> >
> > Maybe try 'apt-get -f install' (without any packages named) to
> > install any missing dependencies. I don't think that will do it,
> > but it's worth a try.
> >
> > Someone else is having similar problems, and it seems there's a
> > mismatch in versions of the different parts of nvidia.
> > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1540
> >
> > I've used the nvidia driver in the past, and I tended to have
> > better luck using the binaries downloaded from nvidia. There are
> > some tricks with that, too. (you have to use the version of gcc
> > that was used to compile the kernel, and in debian stable, that's
> > always an older version than the default.) If you decide to go that
> > route, make sure you remove all nvidia packages from your system
> > first.
> Not to be rude, but I wouldn't trust nvidia drivers even if they were
> completely sandboxed.
> 
> They A: hate free software, B: they require proprietary firmware and
> C: Are a huge security risk,
> 
> then again, most processors are too... but that's besides the point.

..I use nouveau on a G96GLM [Quadro FX 770M] @ 1920x1200x32@60fps on 
a Dell Precision M4400, it's the default driver and works well, even
on a KDE/Plasma setup.  The only use I'd have for the nvidia driver, 
would be for benchmarking Flightgear and for 1080p-and-up video.

..but how does nouveau and nvidia compare these days?

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Re: [DNG] Nvidia Drivers

[fsmithred]

On 08/13/2017 07:45 AM, zap wrote:
> 
> Not to be rude, but I wouldn't trust nvidia drivers even if they were
> completely sandboxed.
> 
> They A: hate free software, B: they require proprietary firmware and C:
> Are a huge security risk,
> 
> then again, most processors are too... but that's besides the point.

I stopped using the proprietary driver when I noticed that whatever video
I was last watching showed up in the background of my login screen on the
next login, even after a warm reboot.

fsr


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Re: [DNG] Nvidia Drivers

[fsmithred]

Ed,

I forgot this. Anything here helpful?

https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_375.66_.28via_jessie-backports.29

Here are some old instructions for installing the nvidia binaries, in case
you need to go this way. Adjust versions and possibly replace "sh
NVIDIA..." with "bash NVIDIA..."
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17=58994=341825#p341825

You may or may not need to add "nomodeset" to your boot command. I've had
it go both ways, depending on which nvidia card I was using. Black screen
is the hint for this.

fsr
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Re: [DNG] Nvidia Drivers

[zap]

> Was X working before you tried the nvidia driver? Does /etc/xorg.conf
> exist now? If so, rename it so you can revert to a working X.
>
> Maybe try 'apt-get -f install' (without any packages named) to install any
> missing dependencies. I don't think that will do it, but it's worth a try.
>
> Someone else is having similar problems, and it seems there's a mismatch
> in versions of the different parts of nvidia.
> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1540
>
> I've used the nvidia driver in the past, and I tended to have better luck
> using the binaries downloaded from nvidia. There are some tricks with
> that, too. (you have to use the version of gcc that was used to compile
> the kernel, and in debian stable, that's always an older version than the
> default.) If you decide to go that route, make sure you remove all nvidia
> packages from your system first.
Not to be rude, but I wouldn't trust nvidia drivers even if they were
completely sandboxed.

They A: hate free software, B: they require proprietary firmware and C:
Are a huge security risk,

then again, most processors are too... but that's besides the point.
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Re: [DNG] Nvidia Drivers

[fsmithred]

On 08/12/2017 10:53 AM, Ed Fletcher wrote:

> 
> Thanks fsmithred.  Got it with:
> 
> # apt-get -t jessie-backports install libvdpau1
> # apt-get -t jessie-backports install nvidia-driver
> # reboot
> 
> Hmm, bash screen, no windows.
> 
> # nvidia-settings
> 
> Says to run nvidia-xconfig.  I find that in jessie contrib, add contrib to 
> sources.list, update, upgrade.
> 
> # apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
> # nvidia-xconfig
> 
> It complains that xorg is not installed.  This is where things went sideways. 
>  I followed the directions on -
> 
> git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-install-Devuan/wikis/Minimal-xorg-install
> 
> because it seemed to be a solution.  Now startx gives me:
> 
> Fatal server error: (EE) no screens found   
> xinit: unable to connect to X server
> 
> # apt-get install --reinstall x-window-system
> 
> startx still fails.
> 
> I'm not sure if I've completely pooched it.  If anyone can suggest a way out 
> I'd appreciate it.  Otherwise I'll reinstall the OS and try again.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed
> 

Was X working before you tried the nvidia driver? Does /etc/xorg.conf
exist now? If so, rename it so you can revert to a working X.

Maybe try 'apt-get -f install' (without any packages named) to install any
missing dependencies. I don't think that will do it, but it's worth a try.

Someone else is having similar problems, and it seems there's a mismatch
in versions of the different parts of nvidia.
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1540

I've used the nvidia driver in the past, and I tended to have better luck
using the binaries downloaded from nvidia. There are some tricks with
that, too. (you have to use the version of gcc that was used to compile
the kernel, and in debian stable, that's always an older version than the
default.) If you decide to go that route, make sure you remove all nvidia
packages from your system first.

fsr

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Re: [DNG] Nvidia Drivers

[Ed Fletcher]

On August 12, 2017 9:39:27 AM ADT, fsmithred  wrote:
>On 08/11/2017 09:16 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote:
>
>> Where I'm stuck is here:
>> 
>> nvidia-vdpau-driver : Depends: libvdpau1 (>= 0.9) but 0.8-3+deb8u2 is
>to
>> be installed
>> 
>> Which is odd since jessie-backports main has this:
>> 
>> Package: libvdpau1
>> Source: libvdpau
>> Version: 1.1.1-1~bpo8+1
>> 
>> Version 1.1.1 should be installing, which would satisfy the
>dependency.
>> However, it seems to be invisible to apt-get.
>> 
>
>Did you tell apt-get to install libvdpau1 from backports? Something
>like:
>  apt-get -t jessie-backports install nvidia-whatever* libvdpau1
>
>* I don't know the current package names to use. Maybe nvidia-driver
>(metapackage) is enough.
>
>fsmithred
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Thanks fsmithred.  Got it with:

# apt-get -t jessie-backports install libvdpau1
# apt-get -t jessie-backports install nvidia-driver
# reboot

Hmm, bash screen, no windows.

# nvidia-settings

Says to run nvidia-xconfig.  I find that in jessie contrib, add contrib to 
sources.list, update, upgrade.

# apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig

It complains that xorg is not installed.  This is where things went sideways.  
I followed the directions on -

git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-install-Devuan/wikis/Minimal-xorg-install

because it seemed to be a solution.  Now startx gives me:

Fatal server error: (EE) no screens found   
xinit: unable to connect to X server

# apt-get install --reinstall x-window-system

startx still fails.

I'm not sure if I've completely pooched it.  If anyone can suggest a way out 
I'd appreciate it.  Otherwise I'll reinstall the OS and try again.

Thanks,
Ed
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Re: [DNG] Nvidia Drivers

[fsmithred]

On 08/11/2017 09:16 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote:

> Where I'm stuck is here:
> 
> nvidia-vdpau-driver : Depends: libvdpau1 (>= 0.9) but 0.8-3+deb8u2 is to
> be installed
> 
> Which is odd since jessie-backports main has this:
> 
> Package: libvdpau1
> Source: libvdpau
> Version: 1.1.1-1~bpo8+1
> 
> Version 1.1.1 should be installing, which would satisfy the dependency.
> However, it seems to be invisible to apt-get.
> 

Did you tell apt-get to install libvdpau1 from backports? Something like:
  apt-get -t jessie-backports install nvidia-whatever* libvdpau1

* I don't know the current package names to use. Maybe nvidia-driver
(metapackage) is enough.

fsmithred

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Re: [DNG] Nvidia Drivers

[Edward Bartolo]

Since this is a help request, please use the appropriate place which
is the forum.
dev1galaxy.org

After editing your /etc/apt/sources.list file you should run:
# apt-get update

After that try to see whether version 1.1.1 is available. You can use:
apt-cache search libvdpau1

Then, install the package:
# apt-get install libvdpau1

Before allowing the installation check which packages are to be
replaced to make sure you don't break your system.

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[DNG] Nvidia Drivers

[Ed Fletcher]

Hi All:

I'm trying to install nvidia-drivers in order to use version 375.82.  I 
can see it in jessie-backports non-free.  It has various dependencies so 
I've added main and contrib.


Where I'm stuck is here:

nvidia-vdpau-driver : Depends: libvdpau1 (>= 0.9) but 0.8-3+deb8u2 is to 
be installed


Which is odd since jessie-backports main has this:

Package: libvdpau1
Source: libvdpau
Version: 1.1.1-1~bpo8+1

Version 1.1.1 should be installing, which would satisfy the dependency. 
However, it seems to be invisible to apt-get.


I've added the following to /etc/apt/sources.list:

# jessie-backports, testing but linked to stable

deb http://ca.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main non-free 
contrib
deb-src http://ca.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main 
non-free contrib


Can anyone point me in the right direction to solve this?

Thanks,
Ed
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