Re: [libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Mailing list will be moved to the FORUM tonight.
Hello Olivier I have checked the link, but there is a problem. All I am getting is Portuguese and Spanish. Where is English? Regards Peter Schofield > On 21 Jun 2022, at 15:49, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > Hi Team > > I kind remind that our mailing list will be frozen tonight (22:00 UTC). > > The contents will be migrated to the forum at > > https://community.documentfoundation.org/ > > Discussions will continue in the forum. > > Regards > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org > Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updated LO Chapter Template for user guides
Hello again Just changed the font colour of Code to match the code example you sent me. I got the colour from your example. Will check the other colours used in the example. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 20 Jun 2022, at 04:00, flywire wrote: > > The changes look about right, with the exception of the comment line's > missing 's' as the eightieth character, but the template styles need more > work. > > 1a) Code End paragraph style is not required and should be removed (approved > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00391.html > <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00391.html>) > because extra line spacing below paragraphs now occurs when paragraphs > change. > > 1b) The code explanation would be better placed after the code to demonstrate > the extra space which isn't obvious before a heading. > > 2. Code syntax character styles should be added to the template and linked to > the code style. If the styles exist in the document the macro will use them > rather than creating new styles not linked to the code style. The example > code had 5 character styles which have been replaced with user formatting, > bypassing the main template purpose of enforcing consistent styles. We look > forward to a better solution being developed > (https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00341.html > <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00341.html>), > > > Following > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_for_syntax_highlighting_code > > <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_for_syntax_highlighting_code> > adds OOoComputerCode to the document. Possibly (??) the only change needed > is deleting it and changing _OOoComputerBase character style to inherit from > Code. I've previously suggested the lo palette colors should be used. > > 3. These changes are probably best tested by someone that hasn't been > formatting code for the guides. To avoid all sorts of anomalies I have hacked > the extension and changed the styles, and I'm not confident I've fully reset > it to what others get after deleting the lodev version config. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updated LO Chapter Template for user guides
Hello Flywire The only character style in the chapter template is Code, which is Liberation Mono 10pt. The Code character style is listed in Character Styles on Page 6 in the template. However, in the example of code that has been used there three colour character styles used - green, blue and red. What are these character styles called in the programming language? Using the same names in the chapter template for character styles would be good. The code explanation paragraph has been placed below the example. That was a good suggestion. Adding the “s” at the end of the line in the code example has caused it to wrap. The explanation paragraph has been changed to reflect this. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 20 Jun 2022, at 04:00, flywire wrote: > > The changes look about right, with the exception of the comment line's > missing 's' as the eightieth character, but the template styles need more > work. > > 1a) Code End paragraph style is not required and should be removed (approved > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00391.html > <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00391.html>) > because extra line spacing below paragraphs now occurs when paragraphs > change. > > 1b) The code explanation would be better placed after the code to demonstrate > the extra space which isn't obvious before a heading. > > 2. Code syntax character styles should be added to the template and linked to > the code style. If the styles exist in the document the macro will use them > rather than creating new styles not linked to the code style. The example > code had 5 character styles which have been replaced with user formatting, > bypassing the main template purpose of enforcing consistent styles. We look > forward to a better solution being developed > (https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00341.html > <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00341.html>), > > > Following > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_for_syntax_highlighting_code > > <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_for_syntax_highlighting_code> > adds OOoComputerCode to the document. Possibly (??) the only change needed > is deleting it and changing _OOoComputerBase character style to inherit from > Code. I've previously suggested the lo palette colors should be used. > > 3. These changes are probably best tested by someone that hasn't been > formatting code for the guides. To avoid all sorts of anomalies I have hacked > the extension and changed the styles, and I'm not confident I've fully reset > it to what others get after deleting the lodev version config. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updated LO Chapter Template for user guides
Hello Flywire
I have changed to the template and the info about the Code paragraph style as
follows. Also, I have used the code example that you sent me.
The following is an example of code. Please note that lines of code are
generally a single line of text that normally do not line wrap. When samples of
code are entered into a LibreOffice document, there maybe some line wrapping
due to the constraints of line width caused by margins.
Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com
Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
> On 19 Jun 2022, at 02:34, flywire wrote:
>
> def open_greeting(args=None):
> # Code lines with a maximum length of 80 characters will not wrap over
> line
> print("Hello World" + 1 * "!")
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[libreoffice-documentation] Updated LO Chapter Template for user guides
The first draft of the LO chapter template for user guides can be found in the Contributor Resources folder on NextCloud. The filename is LO-Chapter-Template-7-4-first-draft.ott Please review and comment. The following paragraph styles have been added to the template to help in creating a good format for future chapters. Definition Term 2 - for 2nd level options in a dialog. Text Body Indent 2 - explanation for 2nd level options in a dialog. List — this creates a simple list instead of using Text Body Indent and line breaks. List 1 Cont and List 2 Cont - allows the use of a 2nd paragraph below an item in an unordered or ordered list. Legend Numbered - creates a legend for text in a figure. This will make it easier to translate the majority of text used in figures. All paragraph styles, except headings, now have the option “Do not split paragraph” selected to prevent any paragraphs from breaking across pages. This does mean a writing style change to prevent long paragraphs. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Beta1 of LO 7.4 now available to download
Thanks Jean Will now investigate and I know there is a change to the Impress Guide. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 16 Jun 2022, at 03:09, Jean Weber wrote: > > Get Beta1 of LO 7.4 here: > https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?version=7.4.0 > > See also blog post: > https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/06/15/libreoffice-7-4-beta1-is-available-for-testing/ > > Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Figure captions in a single line
Hello Kees Already used Jean’s instructions and they work very well. I will be adding the instructions to the template so that all the Documentation Team will know how to do it. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 15 Jun 2022, at 06:11, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: > > Hi Peter > > Like Jean said. > Go to the image properties. > At the Type page, unselect "Relative to" > > Cheers, > Kees > > > > Peter Schofield schreef op 14.06.2022 10:28: >> I am updating the chapter template for the LO user guide chapters and >> I am trying to solve a problem on figure captions that was raised by >> Olivier. >> How do you expand the width off a figure frame without changing the >> existing width and height of the image? >> In other words, I am trying to make the frame surrounding an image >> wider than the image itself so that a figure caption is on one line. >> I have tried several ways by changing frame properties, but as yet no access. >> Does anyone have a solution that would be easy for everybody to use? >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Figure captions in a single line
Hello Martin I will be writing instructions so that the cursor can be in one line for a figure. Also, I shall be creating instructions to use a numbered legend in a figure when text is involved. Any text added to an image or graphic will then be placed below the figure in a numbered column format. This will allow for an easier translation as the text will not be part of the figure. A couple more days and I will be issuing the first draft of the updated template. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 14 Jun 2022, at 17:11, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > > Peter, > > keep in mind that this frame must accommodate also the translation of the > text into other languages - and the translations are usually longer than the > original (at least in Slovenian they usually are). > So the solution must offer some flexibility for (even) longer translations ... > > Lp, m. > > V V tor., 14. jun. 2022 ob 10:29 je oseba Peter Schofield <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: > I am updating the chapter template for the LO user guide chapters and I am > trying to solve a problem on figure captions that was raised by Olivier. > > How do you expand the width off a figure frame without changing the existing > width and height of the image? > > In other words, I am trying to make the frame surrounding an image wider than > the image itself so that a figure caption is on one line. > > I have tried several ways by changing frame properties, but as yet no access. > > Does anyone have a solution that would be easy for everybody to use? > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > <mailto:documentation%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org> > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > <https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/> > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > <https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Figure captions in a single line
Hello Olivier Jean has given me a solution to creating figure captions in a single line. It works very well and the instructions will appear in the template. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 14 Jun 2022, at 14:00, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > Hi > > It is important to have a clear rule, so we can write a sanitizer script for > the chapter images. > > Olivier > PS I'm glad to see I'm not the only one wrestling on the floor with images, > captions and frames. I'm full of bruises. > > > Em 14/06/2022 07:46, Jean Weber escreveu: >> Recently I’ve tried changing the % on the image instead of using a fixed >> width. This seems to work, but takes more guessing and practice to get a >> good result. >> Jean >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 at 19:51 Jean Weber wrote: >>> I do it by selecting the *image* and changing its properties from a >>> percent to a specified width. Then I can change the width of the frame >>> (that encloses the image + caption) without affecting the image. >>> >>> Jean >>> >>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 at 18:29 Peter Schofield wrote: >>> >>>> I am updating the chapter template for the LO user guide chapters and I >>>> am trying to solve a problem on figure captions that was raised by Olivier. >>>> >>>> How do you expand the width off a figure frame without changing the >>>> existing width and height of the image? >>>> >>>> In other words, I am trying to make the frame surrounding an image wider >>>> than the image itself so that a figure caption is on one line. >>>> >>>> I have tried several ways by changing frame properties, but as yet no >>>> access. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have a solution that would be easy for everybody to use? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Schofield >>>> psaut...@gmail.com >>>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >>>> >>>> > > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org > Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Figure captions in a single line
I am updating the chapter template for the LO user guide chapters and I am trying to solve a problem on figure captions that was raised by Olivier. How do you expand the width off a figure frame without changing the existing width and height of the image? In other words, I am trying to make the frame surrounding an image wider than the image itself so that a figure caption is on one line. I have tried several ways by changing frame properties, but as yet no access. Does anyone have a solution that would be easy for everybody to use? Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at 18:00 UTC
Hello Olivier Evening times for meetings are not good for me, but do have a couple of items that I would like mentioned. 1. I am willing to continue updating the Impress and Draw guides to 7.4 and beyond. Not sure yet if it really will be necessary to update to 7.4. Need to test the beta LO 7.4 against the user guides to see what has changed. 2. The LO chapter template needs to be updated to help reduce the formatting errors that can occur when preparing user guides for publication. I did send out an email recently with a few suggestions. Would appreciate some feedback and ideas. I can easily update the styles and add a few instructions to help our willing volunteers. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 9 Jun 2022, at 12:30, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) ! > > Our documentation team meeting will take place today at 18:00 UTC > > We will use the following jitsi meeting room > > https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam > > The meeting room is supposed to work will all browsers without the need > of a specific plugin. You can use a mobile app in your Android or Iphone. > > The documentation pad for the meeting minute is > > http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation > > Main topics: > > + Assiging tasks for next release 7.4 > + Getting Srated Guide > + Calc Guide > + Base Guide Rev 1 and on > + Miscellanea > > See you later! > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Comunidade LibreOffice > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Update to LO 7.* chapter template
Suggestions for an update to the LibreOffice user guide template to help prevent formatting problems when user guides are being prepared for issue. No change required for heading styles already in use. All other paragraph styles have the option “Do not split paragraph” selected. This is found in Options on the Text Flow page of the Paragraph dialog. “Orphan control” and “Widow control” are deselected. Selecting “Do not split paragraph” does mean that there has to be a writing style change because long paragraphs cannot be used. Suggested paragraph length is no more than six sentences using approximately 25 words in each sentence. This suggestion comes from Simplified English rules to assist in making a document easier to read. I have come across some long paragraphs in the LO user guides and these long paragraphs will create formatting problems. List paragraphs - length and number of sentences to kept as short as possible, but explain the list item. Long List paragraphs defeat the object of creating an unordered list. Numbering paragraphs - these are normally used in procedures and should only contain one step in the procedure. Normally, only one sentence should be used. Figures and illustrations - these should be positioned as close as possible to the paragraph containing the reference. Preferably at the top or bottom of the page the paragraph containing the reference, but that is not always possible. Figures and illustrations - to help prevent large gaps appearing on a page, the frame size should be adjusted with the "Keep ratio” option selected so that the figure or illustration is positioned on the correct page. This will prevent any distortion of the figure or illustration when adjusting width or height of the frame. Please let me know what you think of my suggestions and any suggestions you have to improve the template. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Frame styles question and captioned image resizing.
Hello Olivier If you adjust frame size for a figure, the image inside the frame automatically adjusts its size to fit the frame. However, you have to select “Keep ratio” option to maintain the correct image size. I do this adding figures to the user guide. Regards Peter Schofield Sent from my iPad Mini > On 4 Jun 2022, at 16:58, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > Part of the issue is answered by Regina > > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32484#c22 > > > One reason of the problem is, that ODF allows the setting "anchor-type" as > direct attribute of an object and as part of a style. If both are present, > the object attribute "wins". Currently LibreOffice writes it as direct > attribute and do not include it in custom defined style. Only the predefined > styles have set the anchor-type as part of the style. > > If you derive your custom style from an predefined style, it will inherit the > setting. Currently there is Watermark with anchored to page, and Frame, > Graphics, Marginalia and OLE anchored to paragraph, and Formula and Labels > anchored as-char. > > > > > > Em 04/06/2022 05:59, Olivier Hallot escreveu: >> Hi >> I am making some adjustments in images for the Base Guide and found >> "inconsistencies" in frame styling. >> Applying a frame style to a graphic object in a text document does not mean >> that all style properties listed in the frame style dialog are applied. >> In particular, the "anchoring", “keep ratio”, “auto size”, “relative to”, >> “width” and “height” found in the Type tab of a frame style are not applied >> to the object. >> Which is rather confusing, unless it’s a bug. >> The Writer guide mentions anchoring as a manual setting, but not the other >> settings above. >> Also, the Writer guide mention captioning how-to topics but not one use case >> we find so often: resizing captioned images. >> https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG73/WG7308-IntroStyles.html#toc25 >> https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG73/WG7311-ImagesAndGraphics.html#toc18 >> Ideally I would like to resize the frame and get the internal >> image/screenshot resized accordingly (or vice-versa). It is not clear to me >> how the frame properties relates to the image (also a frame) inside, and if >> there are parameters to set to bind the 2. >> A clear instructions on this use case will go into the guides, Help and wiki. >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides >> >> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-US/text/swriter/01/05060100.html?=SHARED=UNIX >> Kind regards > > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org > Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Future method for users to report errors in guides?
Hello Martin I agree with you. LO needs a simple method of reporting problems with the software. Bug reports would put users off reporting problems. Even I would prefer a simpler method when I find errors in the software when writing the user guides for Impress and Draw. Regards Peter Schofield Sent from my iPad Mini > On 3 Jun 2022, at 10:04, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > > You raise an important issue, Jean. > > There should be some other very easy way. These are not programmers, they > are not used to filling in bug reports. > > What about having a special simple "post" report-form that would be > moderated and only true reports would be then forwarded to the new > discussion system - with some kind of confirmation to the reporter? > There could be a drop-down with a list of entities the bug refers to (UI, > help, wiki, guides) and a text field to describe the error (and a possibly > a field with http of page reference). > > It would simplify the process for the reporter (i.e a user) and add some > load to the moderator, yes. The moderator could then forward the report > (with additional info) as a bug report into bugzilla, as well. > > If this is all overhead, then we should generate a mail account, like > report.err...@documentation.libreoffice.org and users should write an > e-mail describing the problem they found. The moderator would the forward > them to the new list. > > Lp, m. > > V V pet., 3. jun. 2022 ob 03:32 je oseba Jean Weber > napisala: > >> IMO requiring someone to get a login just to report an error is not >> user-friendly at all. In fact, I would describe it as user-hostile. >> There must be another (better) way. >> >> Jean >> >>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 7:25 AM Olivier Hallot >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Jean >>> >>> We will have to update the feedback link to the forum. >>> >>> It will be necessary to get a login. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Olivier >>> Note: the documentation forum link will be announced later. >>> >>> >>> Em 02/06/2022 17:16, Jean Weber escreveu: >>>> After the documentation list moves to its new forum, how will users be >>>> advised to report errors in the guides? Currently the copyright pages >>>> direct users to this (docs) mailing list. They do not need to >> subscribe to >>>> do so. >>>> >>>> Jean >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Olivier Hallot >>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >>> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: >> https://www.libreoffice.org >>> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data >>> http://tdf.io/joinus >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw and Impress guides 7.3
Hello I will be offline for a few days. Going to Copenhagen to enjoy the weekend. Back online in a week. Regards Peter Schofield Sent from my iPad Mini > On 2 Jun 2022, at 02:49, Jean Weber wrote: > > I have replaced those files on the wiki. I cannot replace them on the > Docs website; Olivier will need to do that. > Jean > >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 7:14 PM Peter Schofield wrote: >> >> I have corrected the formatting on the Draw and Impress guides 7.3. The >> corrected copies are in their respective Published and PDF folders on >> NextCloud. >> >> Could someone replace the copies that are on LO Documentation web page at >> the following link: >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Impress_Guide >> >> <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Impress_Guide> >> >> I do not have access to upload files to this web page. >> >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw and Impress guides 7.3
I have corrected the formatting on the Draw and Impress guides 7.3. The corrected copies are in their respective Published and PDF folders on NextCloud. Could someone replace the copies that are on LO Documentation web page at the following link: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Impress_Guide <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Impress_Guide> I do not have access to upload files to this web page. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide
Hello Olivier Just going through the Draw Guide you uploaded to NextCloud and I am finding errors. 1. Chapter page added after the cover page. This is not required as it is repeating info found on the cover page. Deleted. 2. Copyright page has been added after each chapter page. This is duplicating the copyright page after the front cover and is not required. Deleted. 3. Contents page added after each chapter page. This is not required in the full user guide. Deleted. 4. I have corrected the gaps that appear because figures moving to next page. New ODT and PDF copies placed in NextCloud Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Hello Jean I have checked the Impress guide against my copy and there are formatting errors galore. Definitely ruins the look of what should be a well presented book. The Draw Guide is the same. Is there a difference between the template used to create the chapters and the template used to the book? I have created both books using the chapter template. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 27 May 2022, at 04:08, Jean Weber wrote: > > Olivier, > While preparing the file for the printed copies, I have found more > formatting errors that I am sure were not there in Peter's copy that I > checked earlier. Here is my list of errors found (page numbers are > from the final PDF as downloaded from NextCloud): > > Page 23: Figures 6 and 7 have an extra blank line between the image > and the caption. > Page 24: Figure 8 has an extra blank line between the image and the caption. > Pages 28, 42, 73, 118, 143, 186, 226, 298, 328, 361: the list > numbering does not restart at 1. It looks like your "plumbing" removed > the explicit "restart at 1" from the first list item in each chapter. > There are also a lot of bad page breaks that were not in Peter's copy. > I am not going to list them > > I will fix these problems in the ODT and PDF of the full book, before > I create the file for the print copies. > > Jean > > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:30 AM Olivier Hallot > wrote: >> >> Hello Jean >> >> Thank you for the warning. >> >> I have corrected the ODM file and did another round of plumbing in the >> chapter files. >> >> All files updated. >> >> Regards >> Olivier >> >> Em 19/05/2022 22:40, Jean Weber escreveu: >>> Olivier, >>> >>> Some of your settings in the ODM are causing the layout (page breaks) >>> to go wrong. The settings are on the Tools > Options > LibreOffice >>> Writer > Compatibility page. You need to deselect "Add paragraph and >>> table spacing at tops of pages" and "Add spacing between paragraphs >>> and tables". >>> >>> Regards, Jean >>> >>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:54 AM Olivier Hallot >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> HI Peter, Hi Kees >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for this new Guide. The Impress Guide 7.3 has been >>>> uploaded to the websites and a blog post is published on the topic. >>>> >>>> I have downloaded the Published folder in a local folder and did some >>>> tweaks in the chapters. >>>> >>>> The objective was to create a master document with all the chapters >>>> linked. From the master document I created the PDF and the ODT. >>>> >>>> On each chapter I cleaned the direct formatting, cleared the list styles >>>> and adjusted the image anchoring (*). >>>> >>>> Should I replace the existing files in the Published folder?. Please let >>>> me know. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Olivier >>>> >>>> (*) >>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_insert_images_into_ODT_files >>>> >>>> >>>> Em 17/05/2022 06:06, Peter Schofield escreveu: >>>>> The complete Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the Published and PDF folders on >>>>> NextCloud ready to be released. >>>>> >>>>> If anyone wants to review and comment, then please do so. >>>>> >>>>> Now to complete the Draw Guide 7.3 and get it ready for publishing. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Peter Schofield >>>>> psaut...@gmail.com >>>>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Olivier Hallot >>>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >>>> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: >>>> https://www.libreoffice.org >>>> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data >>>> http://tdf.io/joinus >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>>> Problems? >>>> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Hello Olivier and Jean Just had a quick look at the Draw Guide and have found the following errors. 1. Extra page between front cover and Copyright page. The title Draw Guide 7.3 has direct formatting on top of Text Body style. Is there a need for this page when there is a cover page? 2. Paragraph (Book = 1) added after copyright paragraphs. 3. Space added before each chapter title on the chapter title page. 4. What is the difference between the chapter template used to create the chapters and the template used for this version of the user guide. The formatting for the book is now incorrect. For example, Figure 5 should be on Page 20 below Figure 4. This is easy to fix, but the rest of the book has incorrect formatting. I think it is to do with spacing, but cannot find the problem at the moment. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 27 May 2022, at 04:08, Jean Weber wrote: > > Olivier, > While preparing the file for the printed copies, I have found more > formatting errors that I am sure were not there in Peter's copy that I > checked earlier. Here is my list of errors found (page numbers are > from the final PDF as downloaded from NextCloud): > > Page 23: Figures 6 and 7 have an extra blank line between the image > and the caption. > Page 24: Figure 8 has an extra blank line between the image and the caption. > Pages 28, 42, 73, 118, 143, 186, 226, 298, 328, 361: the list > numbering does not restart at 1. It looks like your "plumbing" removed > the explicit "restart at 1" from the first list item in each chapter. > There are also a lot of bad page breaks that were not in Peter's copy. > I am not going to list them > > I will fix these problems in the ODT and PDF of the full book, before > I create the file for the print copies. > > Jean > > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:30 AM Olivier Hallot > wrote: >> >> Hello Jean >> >> Thank you for the warning. >> >> I have corrected the ODM file and did another round of plumbing in the >> chapter files. >> >> All files updated. >> >> Regards >> Olivier >> >> Em 19/05/2022 22:40, Jean Weber escreveu: >>> Olivier, >>> >>> Some of your settings in the ODM are causing the layout (page breaks) >>> to go wrong. The settings are on the Tools > Options > LibreOffice >>> Writer > Compatibility page. You need to deselect "Add paragraph and >>> table spacing at tops of pages" and "Add spacing between paragraphs >>> and tables". >>> >>> Regards, Jean >>> >>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:54 AM Olivier Hallot >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> HI Peter, Hi Kees >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for this new Guide. The Impress Guide 7.3 has been >>>> uploaded to the websites and a blog post is published on the topic. >>>> >>>> I have downloaded the Published folder in a local folder and did some >>>> tweaks in the chapters. >>>> >>>> The objective was to create a master document with all the chapters >>>> linked. From the master document I created the PDF and the ODT. >>>> >>>> On each chapter I cleaned the direct formatting, cleared the list styles >>>> and adjusted the image anchoring (*). >>>> >>>> Should I replace the existing files in the Published folder?. Please let >>>> me know. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Olivier >>>> >>>> (*) >>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_insert_images_into_ODT_files >>>> >>>> >>>> Em 17/05/2022 06:06, Peter Schofield escreveu: >>>>> The complete Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the Published and PDF folders on >>>>> NextCloud ready to be released. >>>>> >>>>> If anyone wants to review and comment, then please do so. >>>>> >>>>> Now to complete the Draw Guide 7.3 and get it ready for publishing. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Peter Schofield >>>>> psaut...@gmail.com >>>>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Olivier Hallot >>>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >>>> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: >>>> https://www
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is THURSDAY at 18:00 UTC
Hello Olivier Cannot attend because the timing is wrong for me, but would like to raise one point. Bug 135501 about changing the default UI is interesting and would like to know what the other members of the Documentation Team think about changing the default UI. To me the Standard UI is good to use. In my opinion, what is being proposed does is not a good step forward. Also, there are several spelling errors in dialogs, menus and toolbars that should be fixed first before there is a change of default UI. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 26 May 2022, at 01:33, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) ! > > Our documentation team meeting will take place THURSDAY at 18:00 UTC > > We will use the following jitsi meeting room > > https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam > > The meeting room is supposed to work will all browsers without the need > of a specific plugin. You can use a mobile app in your Android or Iphone. > > The documentation pad for the meeting minute is > > http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation > > Main topics: > > + Welcome to new volunteers > + What is the documentation team > > Next steps for LibreOffice 7.4 > + Covers > + folders > + coordinators > + deadlines > > See you later! > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Comunidade LibreOffice > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Back Cover Text for user guides
After a recent query from Olivier about the text used on the back cover for Draw, I have created a template based on the LO chapter template. The reason for this is simple. All the headings on the back cover are black. The headings in each chapter are LO green. Also, as a bit of help for all our volunteers,I have created files containing the back cover text for each user guide. This files and the template have been uploaded into a folder called Back Cover Text in the Contributor Resources folder. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Back cover for Draw and Impress Guides 7.3
A copy of the file containing the back cover text for the Draw and Impress has been uploaded to the 7.3 Impress and Draw folders on NextCloud. Please download if you require a copy. It is in ODT format. The LO template for user guides was not used for this text and all the formatting on the text is direct formatting. The LO template was not suitable. This is why the back cover with text is in PNG format. That way it did not create any problems when the user guides are prepared for publishing. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Hello Olivier Will send you the text tomorrow when I am back home. Regards Peter Sent from my iPhone > On 23 May 2022, at 13:51, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > Hi Peter > > Can I get the text of the back cover? I can't find it as editable document. > Your BG73 back cover has the text transformed in PNG image and I can't get it > as text. > > Thank you > Olivier > > Em 23/05/2022 03:42, Peter Schofield escreveu: >> I forgot to put the back cover on the Draw Guide 7.3. That will be fixed >> today and new version of the Draw Guide in NextCloud this afternoon. >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org > Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
The complete Draw Guide 7.3 with rear cover this time is now in the Published and PDF Files on NextCloud ready for publication. Does anyone want to review it. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
I forgot to put the back cover on the Draw Guide 7.3. That will be fixed today and new version of the Draw Guide in NextCloud this afternoon. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 7.4
Is there a link available to download LO 7.4, or is too early for a usable 7.4 version? Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
The complete Draw Guide 7.3 and the separate chapters are now in the Published and PDF Files folders on NextCloud ready for publishing. Will now look at the Impress and Draw chapters in the Getting Started Guide to update to 7.4. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Bug 135501 - Change the default UI
Thank you Kees Will try it out and see how it all works. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 22 May 2022, at 10:03, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: > > Hi Peter > > To use the Notebookbar, you have to choose the option Tabbed. > > Regards, Kees > > Peter Schofield schreef op 22.05.2022 09:47: >> Hello Martin >> I can only agree with your comments. It is just that I am concerned >> about what changes are involved to the user guides. >> One thing I would like to know is how do I set my LibreOffice to using >> the Notebook Bar. I have switched on experimental features and opened >> View - User Interface on the Menu bar, but there is no Notebook Bar >> offered as an option. Yet, in LibreOffice > Preferences > LibreOffice >> > View > Icon Size the Notebook Bar is there as an option. Some help please. >> One thing that I think should be carried out is a spelling correction. >> Change all instances of Notebookbar to the correct spelling of >> Notebook Bar. Definitely does not look good when there are spelling >> errors in the user interface. >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >>> On 21 May 2022, at 18:15, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: >>> Hello, Peter, >>> Regarding the Touch Bar: >>> - if I buy a computer with it (and spend more money), I expect it to bring >>> much joy to the use of my new laptop; >>> - if I am not satisfied with the Bar, I cannot remove it physically from >>> the computer, it stands there and lights up every once in a while, >>> reminding me how well I spent my money; >>> - I could use the 30-day money-back guarantee option, but that one might >>> not be available in my region (and requires some additional effort and >>> potentially even cost on my side). >>> Regarding the LO UI-type change: >>> - I haven't spent any money on the new UI, it is already present in >>> previous versions, maybe I even played with it before (or have it enabled) >>> and it is already described in all of the documentation; >>> - if I do not like the new interface, I can switch back to the old one (OK, >>> some users with basic computer knowledge might have a problem with that, so >>> they need to be assisted in some way by a wizard or some UI tool); >>> - *if I am not mistaken* - this would only change for users without a user >>> profile, i.e. without previous versions of LO installed - all others would >>> get the UI they used with the old/previous version of LO? So if they are >>> not used to LO and come from MSO, the notebookbar might seem a more logical >>> choice for starting the software for the first time. >>> Of course, there will be users fighting about which UI is better, but ... >>> de gustibus non disputandum est. >>> Lp, m. >>> V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 11:22 je oseba Peter Schofield >>> mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: >>> Hello Martin >>> I understand your thoughts and do agree that things must move on. However, >>> the idea of having a Notebookbar UI does worry me a little. >>> Apple brought out a Touch Bar on some of the Macs, which was a physical >>> option not software, but software was involved. Apple are now rethinking >>> the Touch Bar, according to the news pundits, and it may be completely >>> dropped because it was not all that successful. Using this reasoning, I >>> think that a Notebookbar UI may also not be that successful. >>> The Standard UI is great to use. >>> Regards >>> Peter Schofield >>> psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> >>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >>>> On 21 May 2022, at 11:14, Martin Srebotnjak >>> <mailto:mi...@filmsi.net>> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I do not know about the future, but the TDF board should inform the teams >>>> (esp. the documentation team) at least one version prior of such a change >>>> (if being planned for 7.5/(=8.0?), the LO teams should be informed by the >>>> time of the 7.4 release) - so everyone can prepare accordingly (maybe the >>>> Documentation team will then decide to not work on 7.4 guides but start >>>> rewriting the online help and the chapters of the guides for 7.5/8.0 with >>>> that change in mind - the default gui does not change the functionality >>>> itself, just its accessibility and requires many changed screenshots in &g
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Bug 135501 - Change the default UI
Hello Martin I can only agree with your comments. It is just that I am concerned about what changes are involved to the user guides. One thing I would like to know is how do I set my LibreOffice to using the Notebook Bar. I have switched on experimental features and opened View - User Interface on the Menu bar, but there is no Notebook Bar offered as an option. Yet, in LibreOffice > Preferences > LibreOffice > View > Icon Size the Notebook Bar is there as an option. Some help please. One thing that I think should be carried out is a spelling correction. Change all instances of Notebookbar to the correct spelling of Notebook Bar. Definitely does not look good when there are spelling errors in the user interface. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 21 May 2022, at 18:15, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > > Hello, Peter, > > Regarding the Touch Bar: > - if I buy a computer with it (and spend more money), I expect it to bring > much joy to the use of my new laptop; > - if I am not satisfied with the Bar, I cannot remove it physically from the > computer, it stands there and lights up every once in a while, reminding me > how well I spent my money; > - I could use the 30-day money-back guarantee option, but that one might not > be available in my region (and requires some additional effort and > potentially even cost on my side). > > Regarding the LO UI-type change: > - I haven't spent any money on the new UI, it is already present in previous > versions, maybe I even played with it before (or have it enabled) and it is > already described in all of the documentation; > - if I do not like the new interface, I can switch back to the old one (OK, > some users with basic computer knowledge might have a problem with that, so > they need to be assisted in some way by a wizard or some UI tool); > - *if I am not mistaken* - this would only change for users without a user > profile, i.e. without previous versions of LO installed - all others would > get the UI they used with the old/previous version of LO? So if they are not > used to LO and come from MSO, the notebookbar might seem a more logical > choice for starting the software for the first time. > > Of course, there will be users fighting about which UI is better, but ... de > gustibus non disputandum est. > > Lp, m. > > V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 11:22 je oseba Peter Schofield <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: > Hello Martin > > I understand your thoughts and do agree that things must move on. However, > the idea of having a Notebookbar UI does worry me a little. > > Apple brought out a Touch Bar on some of the Macs, which was a physical > option not software, but software was involved. Apple are now rethinking the > Touch Bar, according to the news pundits, and it may be completely dropped > because it was not all that successful. Using this reasoning, I think that a > Notebookbar UI may also not be that successful. > > The Standard UI is great to use. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > >> On 21 May 2022, at 11:14, Martin Srebotnjak > <mailto:mi...@filmsi.net>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I do not know about the future, but the TDF board should inform the teams >> (esp. the documentation team) at least one version prior of such a change >> (if being planned for 7.5/(=8.0?), the LO teams should be informed by the >> time of the 7.4 release) - so everyone can prepare accordingly (maybe the >> Documentation team will then decide to not work on 7.4 guides but start >> rewriting the online help and the chapters of the guides for 7.5/8.0 with >> that change in mind - the default gui does not change the functionality >> itself, just its accessibility and requires many changed screenshots in >> guides, so a lot of work can be done even before 7.5a1 is available, even >> today). >> >> And another thing - there will be a lot of opposition to such a change - so >> maybe when released - there should be a guide/wizard at the first start of >> the suite to offer and explain/visualize the *two* (not 6 or 8) options - >> classic vs. notebookbar. But I can't even imagine the fuss this would create >> with help content and documentation, always mentioning the two possibilities >> when describing the access to toolbar icons/items ... >> >> Peter, I understand you - but I think it is inevitable that such a change >> would come. And many changes to documentation as well. >> >> Lp, m. >> >> V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 09:48 je oseba Pe
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Bug 135501 - Change the default UI
Hello Martin I understand your thoughts and do agree that things must move on. However, the idea of having a Notebookbar UI does worry me a little. Apple brought out a Touch Bar on some of the Macs, which was a physical option not software, but software was involved. Apple are now rethinking the Touch Bar, according to the news pundits, and it may be completely dropped because it was not all that successful. Using this reasoning, I think that a Notebookbar UI may also not be that successful. The Standard UI is great to use. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 21 May 2022, at 11:14, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > > Hi, > > I do not know about the future, but the TDF board should inform the teams > (esp. the documentation team) at least one version prior of such a change (if > being planned for 7.5/(=8.0?), the LO teams should be informed by the time of > the 7.4 release) - so everyone can prepare accordingly (maybe the > Documentation team will then decide to not work on 7.4 guides but start > rewriting the online help and the chapters of the guides for 7.5/8.0 with > that change in mind - the default gui does not change the functionality > itself, just its accessibility and requires many changed screenshots in > guides, so a lot of work can be done even before 7.5a1 is available, even > today). > > And another thing - there will be a lot of opposition to such a change - so > maybe when released - there should be a guide/wizard at the first start of > the suite to offer and explain/visualize the *two* (not 6 or 8) options - > classic vs. notebookbar. But I can't even imagine the fuss this would create > with help content and documentation, always mentioning the two possibilities > when describing the access to toolbar icons/items ... > > Peter, I understand you - but I think it is inevitable that such a change > would come. And many changes to documentation as well. > > Lp, m. > > V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 09:48 je oseba Peter Schofield <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: > I keep getting messages about "Bug 135501 - Change the default UI” which has > raised a question for me and would like some opinion on this. > > Being one of the volunteers writing the user guides, would it mean that I > have to completely update and change the user guides to suit a Notebookbar UI > ??? > > I would like more information on this change to the UI so that I know what is > going to happen. The comments in the bug report do not really help. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > <mailto:documentation%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org> > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > <https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/> > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > <https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Bug 135501 - Change the default UI
I keep getting messages about "Bug 135501 - Change the default UI” which has raised a question for me and would like some opinion on this. Being one of the volunteers writing the user guides, would it mean that I have to completely update and change the user guides to suit a Notebookbar UI ??? I would like more information on this change to the UI so that I know what is going to happen. The comments in the bug report do not really help. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Hello Olivier Please replace the files in the Published folder, then I can download them ready for the next upgrade. Please note that the Draw guide 7.3 will be ready for publishing next week. I will let the team know when I have finished. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 19 May 2022, at 00:51, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > HI Peter, Hi Kees > > Thank you very much for this new Guide. The Impress Guide 7.3 has been > uploaded to the websites and a blog post is published on the topic. > > I have downloaded the Published folder in a local folder and did some tweaks > in the chapters. > > The objective was to create a master document with all the chapters linked. > From the master document I created the PDF and the ODT. > > On each chapter I cleaned the direct formatting, cleared the list styles and > adjusted the image anchoring (*). > > Should I replace the existing files in the Published folder?. Please let me > know. > > Kind regards > Olivier > > (*) > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_insert_images_into_ODT_files > > > Em 17/05/2022 06:06, Peter Schofield escreveu: >> The complete Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the Published and PDF folders on >> NextCloud ready to be released. >> If anyone wants to review and comment, then please do so. >> Now to complete the Draw Guide 7.3 and get it ready for publishing. >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org > Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Corrected ODT and PDF files for the Impress Guide 7.3 and Chapter 5 Managing Graphic Objects have been uploaded to the Published and PDF Files folders on NextCloud. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 18 May 2022, at 09:32, Jean Weber wrote: > > Peter, > > One trivial formatting error (possibly not worth the effort of recreating the > book): on page 143, the numbers 4) and 6) are out of line with the rest of > the numbers in the list. > > Regards, Jean > > > On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 7:42 PM Jean Weber <mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I will check the PDF for formatting errors. > > > > Jean > > > > On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 19:07 Peter Schofield > <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> The complete Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the Published and PDF folders on > >> NextCloud ready to be released. > >> > >> If anyone wants to review and comment, then please do so. > >> > >> Now to complete the Draw Guide 7.3 and get it ready for publishing. > >> > >> Regards > >> Peter Schofield > >> psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> > >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > >> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Thank you Jean with the eagle eyes. I will correct and create new PDF file. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 18 May 2022, at 09:32, Jean Weber wrote: > > Peter, > > One trivial formatting error (possibly not worth the effort of recreating the > book): on page 143, the numbers 4) and 6) are out of line with the rest of > the numbers in the list. > > Regards, Jean > > > On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 7:42 PM Jean Weber <mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I will check the PDF for formatting errors. > > > > Jean > > > > On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 19:07 Peter Schofield > <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> The complete Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the Published and PDF folders on > >> NextCloud ready to be released. > >> > >> If anyone wants to review and comment, then please do so. > >> > >> Now to complete the Draw Guide 7.3 and get it ready for publishing. > >> > >> Regards > >> Peter Schofield > >> psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> > >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > >> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum, important information and feedback wanted.
I agree with Jean’s comments about the Documentation forum. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 12 May 2022, at 09:08, Jean Weber wrote: > > On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 06:46 Olivier Hallot > wrote: > >> Hi Team >> >> Some important questions to answer or to know on the creation of the >> Documentation forum. Please voice your opinion. >> >> 1) Do you want an automatic subscription to the forum, based on the >> current subscription of the DOc' mailing list? PLease note: > > > Automatic for me > >+ automatic subscription will be done for people with a login at TDF >> (the one you have for NextCloud, for example) >> >>+ If you prefer to do it yourself, you can use the login you have in >> TDF (the same as used in NextCloud). You can also define a different >> e-mail address for the Forum service (set in >> https://user.documentfoundation.org/edit ) >> >>+ The Forum has its own set of options (gear icon on the top left) >> where you can adjust the settings of your forum account, including the >> frequency of forum notification mails sent to you. >> >> 2) The current doc mailing list contents has been imported to the test >> site and will be imported to the production forum. Therefore: >> >> + Shall we close the doc mailing list (no more posts there)? > > > Yes, close the doc mailing list for posting, but keep archives available. > > >> + Shall we leave it open for posting?. >> + WARNING: There is no way to bridge the 2 messaging systems. >> Duplication of contents and division of the team is likely to bring >> confusion and loss of synergy. >> >> 3) We can have one main category "Documentation" and several >> subcategories. For example, the subcategories could be "Guides" and "Help". >> + Does subcategories are actually needed? Do you have another >> subcategory to suggest? or... >> + Shall we have just one main category will all subjects in, and filter >> with tags? > > > I don’t know how the tags work or who assigns them, but I think having only > one main category is easier to use.. > > > The Production Forum is expected to start early june 2022. >> >> Thank you for your inputs, they are important for us to deliver the best >> service. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Olivier >> >> Mensagem encaminhada >> Assunto: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum >> Data: Mon, 9 May 2022 12:07:08 -0300 >> De: Olivier Hallot >> Organização: The Document Foundation >> Para: LibreOffice Documentation >> >> Hi Team >> >> Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based >> on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list >> history has been imported to it. Please have a look at >> >> https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 >> >> And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. >> >> Kind regards >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: >> https://www.libreoffice.org >> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data >> http://tdf.io/joinus >> >> > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
The complete Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the Published and PDF folders on NextCloud ready to be released. If anyone wants to review and comment, then please do so. Now to complete the Draw Guide 7.3 and get it ready for publishing. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
All chapters for the Impress Guide 7.3 have now been published and PDF files have been created. All files are available in the Published PDF Files folders on NextCloud. I am now creating the complete Impress Guide 7.3 and it should be ready in a couple of days. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum
This looks good as it does give the progress of a document on its journey to publication. The only comment I can make is about the little indicators used for the people involved for each item. Suggest an empty circle with the initials of the user inside. For me that would be PS. The colour fill used does make the initials difficult to see on my monitor. I am now creating the 7.3 versions of the Impress and Draw user guides. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 9 May 2022, at 17:07, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > Hi Team > > Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based on the > documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list history has been > imported to it. Please have a look at > > https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 > > And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. > > Kind regards > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org > Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Version 01 of IG7314 Appendix B Toolbars for the Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Could a willing volunteer do the reviews on the chapters in the Work In Progress folder. I shall be assembling the full Impress Guide to get it ready for publication. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Version 01 of IG7313 Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts for the Impress guide 7.3 is now in the work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress guide 7.3
Version 01 of IG7312 User Interface Variants for the Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of DG7314 Toolbars for the Draw Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for it review and comment. That is the last chapter. Now to put the complete user guide together. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of DG7313 Keyboard Shortcuts for the Draw Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw guide 7.3
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[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
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[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of DG7310 Printing Exporting and Emailing for the Draw Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Only four chapters to update. Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Adding Toolbars
Hello The tools available on the Text toolbar are as follows: Insert Text Box (F2) Callouts Fit Text in Textbox Size Insert Vertical Text Vertical Callouts Fit Vertical Text to Frame The Text toolbar does exist, but does not appear in the context menu for View > Toolbars on the Menu bar. This is where you would go to add the toolbar to Draw. The instructions in the Getting Started Guide and LO Help do not tell you how to do this. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 24 Apr 2022, at 10:49, flywire wrote: > > Peter, can you clarify which tools you are after? I note Writer > View > > Toolbars > Text Object is the same toolbar as Draw > View > Toolbars > Text > Formatting. > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Adding Toolbars
Can someone help please. I am trying to add an existing toolbar to LO Draw. The toolbar is Text and contains six tools that would be useful for working with text. Going to View > Toolbars on the Menu bar, the Text toolbar is not available. I have checked the Customise procedure in View > Toolbars > Customise on the Menu bar, but it is not obvious on how to add an existing toolbar to an LO module. I have checked Chapter 14 in the Getting Started Guide. No info on adding an existing toolbar to an LO module, that is Draw for me. Adding new commands to a toolbar is not a problem. A prompt reply would be greatly appreciated. Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of DG7308 Connectors, Flowcharts and Organisation Charts for the Draw Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its and comment. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Version 01 of the following chapter files for the Impress Guide 7.3 are in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for review and comment. IG7307 OLE, Spreadsheets, Charts, and Other Objects IG7308 Adding and Formatting Slides, Notes, Comments, and Handouts Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Hello Kees I am now updating DG7306 and DG7307. Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 11 Apr 2022, at 09:43, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: > > Hi Regina > > I updated the status sheet with your review. > Please keep this sheet up to date. > > Kind regards, > Kees > > Regina Henschel schreef op 10.04.2022 21:01: >> Hi Peter, >> Peter Schofield schrieb am 10.04.2022 um 12:01: >>> Version 01 of the following chapters for the Draw Guide 7.3 are in the Work >>> In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for their review and comment. >> I have added some comments to DG7307 3D Objects. >> Kind regards, >> Regina > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of the following chapters for the Draw Guide 7.3 are in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for their review and comment. DG7306 Editing Images DG7307 3D Objects Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress guide 7.3
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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
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[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Version 01 of IG7306 Formatting Graphic Objects for the Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. A few changes made. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] RESUMING - REMIND: Documentation team call is THURSDAY at 18:00 UTC
Hello Olivier I am updating Impress and Draw guides to 7.3. Chapters 1 to 5 of both guides have been published and PDF Files created. I hope to complete both guides in about three weeks. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 30 Mar 2022, at 22:38, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) ! > > Our documentation team meeting will take place today at 18:00 UTC > > We will use the following jitsi meeting room > > https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam > > The meeting room is supposed to work will all browsers without the need > of a specific plugin. You can use a mobile app in your Android or Iphone. > > The documentation pad for the meeting minute is > > http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation > > Main topics: > + General news > > + Scripting guide > > + Code colorizing > > + Status of current guides > > + Team gathering > > See you! > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Comunidade LibreOffice > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of DG7305 Combining Multiple Objects for the Draw Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder ready for its review and comment. Minor error correction and formatting tweaks only. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Version 01 of IG7305 Managing Graphic Objects for the Impress Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Only minor error corrections and formatting tweaks. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of DG7304 Changing Object Attributes for the Draw Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Only minor error corrections and formatting tweaks. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Reviewing Chapter 7 of Writer Guide 7.3
Hello Jean Just had a quick look at Chapter 7 and do have one immediate suggestion – two main sections to separate the different printing methods and cover the extra pages/options available in macOS. Using Heading 1 style, first section — Windows and Linux printing; second section — macOS printing. Some of the printing information will be repeated between the two sections, but will help in preventing any confusion hn a user tries to print. macOS printing does have several options available that do not appear in Windows or Linux. What do you think? I can do all three operating systems, but will be at least a week before I can start. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 21 Mar 2022, at 10:46, Jean Weber wrote: > > I added material on the Mac Print dialog to Chapter 7 of Writer Guide 7.3. > I need two people to review it, if possible. > One person who does NOT use Mac, to see if the way I have added the > new material is confusing. > One person who DOES use Mac, to see if the info is correct and also if > the way I have added it is confusing. > Thanks to all! > > Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Version 01 of IG7303 Adding & Formatting Text and IG7304 Adding & Formatting Images for the Impress Guide 7.3 are in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for their review and comment. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
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[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping PeterS: Master Docs chapter in Writer Guide?
Hello Jean Sorry, but I had forgotten and family life is now taking more time. Will not be able give time to updating the Master Docs chapter. I did have a quick look a couple of weeks ago and it definitely does need some updating. Also, had a few problems with my computers that took a while to sort out, including getting a new laptop as part of the solution. This set me back in updating the Impress and Draw Guides to 7.3, but now catching up. Sorry to let you down. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 13 Mar 2022, at 06:49, Jean Weber wrote: > > Peter, do you still intend to rewrite the chapter on master documents for > the Writer Guide? If so, when do you expect to have a draft done? The rest > of the book doesn’t need a lot of updating, other than 2 or 3 chapters, so > it should get done fairly quickly. > > Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of DG7302 Drawing Basic Shapes for the Draw Guide 7.3 is now in the Work in Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Regards Peter Schofield Sent from my iPad Pro -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Version 01 of Chapter 2 Slide Masters, Styles and Templates for the Impress Guide 7.3 is now in Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Slide Show in Impress
Hello Regina The right-click on a presentation file and select Show is only available in Windows. I have checked macOS and Ubuntu and right-click > Show is not available. Autostart is required if the option Loop and repeat after… is selected in Slide Show Settings. This allows a slide show to be run independently as a display, for example in a shop or at an exhibition as an advertising tool. I shall submit a bug report to see if Autostart can be added to Impress. Does anyone else have an opinion on Autostart for an Impress presentation. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 28 Feb 2022, at 10:45, Regina Henschel wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Peter Schofield schrieb am 28.02.2022 um 10:20: >> After comments from Kees, I am testing the running of a presentation in LO >> Impress and there maybe an omission in the slide show settings. >> There is no autostart of a presentation, or automatic advancing of slides in >> a presentation. You have to press the spacebar, right our left arrow keys, >> or mouse click to start the presentation or move to the next slide. > > Autostart = Start in presentation mode ? > On Windows, right click the file and choose item 'Show' instead of 'Open' > from context menu. > > Automatic advancing slides is not in the slide settings, but it is a setting > of the slide transition. There you find section 'Advance Slide' with options > 'On mouse click' and 'After ... sec'. > > Kind regards > Regina > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Slide Show in Impress
Hello Regina Clicking on Show in Windows opens the file in Impress then automatically opens in presentation mode. However, there is still no Autostart or auto slide advance. You have to press Spacebar, right or left arrows or mouse click. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 28 Feb 2022, at 10:45, Regina Henschel wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Peter Schofield schrieb am 28.02.2022 um 10:20: >> After comments from Kees, I am testing the running of a presentation in LO >> Impress and there maybe an omission in the slide show settings. >> There is no autostart of a presentation, or automatic advancing of slides in >> a presentation. You have to press the spacebar, right our left arrow keys, >> or mouse click to start the presentation or move to the next slide. > > Autostart = Start in presentation mode ? > On Windows, right click the file and choose item 'Show' instead of 'Open' > from context menu. > > Automatic advancing slides is not in the slide settings, but it is a setting > of the slide transition. There you find section 'Advance Slide' with options > 'On mouse click' and 'After ... sec'. > > Kind regards > Regina > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Slide Show in Impress
After comments from Kees, I am testing the running of a presentation in LO Impress and there maybe an omission in the slide show settings. There is no autostart of a presentation, or automatic advancing of slides in a presentation. You have to press the spacebar, right our left arrow keys, or mouse click to start the presentation or move to the next slide. There is an autostart loop and repeat option after setting a time delay, BUT again there is no autostart function. Is this a bug or is it a deliberate omission? If it is a bug, I will submit a bug report. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First review of IG7301-Introducing-Impress
Hello Will look at presenter console when I go through the review comments. I will change the text so that Chapter 1 and Chapter 9 match each other. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 25 Feb 2022, at 09:58, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: > > I have given IG7301-Introducing-Impress a first review. > Mainly the part about running a presentation is not right in my opinion. > It describes that the Presenter console opens automatically when starting a > presentation. > In my opinion that only happens when an external display is connected. > In my opinion this part has to be rewritten. > See chapter 9. > > Cheers, > Kees > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of DG7301 Introducing Draw for the Draw Guide 7.3 is in the WIP folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. DG7302 is next. Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.3
Version 01 of IG7301 Introducing Impress for the Impress Guide 7.3 is in the WIP folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3
Version 01 of DG7300 Preface for the Draw Guide 7.3 is now in the WIP folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Minimal changes made, mainly changing 7.2 to 7.3. Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guie 7.3
Version 01 of IG7300 Preface for there Impress Guide 7.3 is now in Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. Very little changes have been made to the Preface, mainly making sure 7.2 now reads 7.3 Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress and Draw Guides 7.3
My plan of action is to start updating the Impress and Draw Guides to Version 7.3. I have downloaded all the files and will be starting this weekend. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Jean Checked Appendix A and everything is OK. It can now be published. I have placed a published file in the published folder. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 16 Feb 2022, at 08:23, Jean Weber wrote: > > I have made some formatting changes to this appendix, to make it consistent > with the rest of the book, and I have added captions to the tables. The > file (with my initials added to the file name) is in the WiP folder, in > case anyone wants to go over it before I publish it. > > Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Jean Will check Appendix A and have back in WIP later this week. Need to check so that I can see and learn the formatting changes better. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 16 Feb 2022, at 08:23, Jean Weber wrote: > > I have made some formatting changes to this appendix, to make it consistent > with the rest of the book, and I have added captions to the tables. The > file (with my initials added to the file name) is in the WiP folder, in > case anyone wants to go over it before I publish it. > > Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.3
Ver 02 of GS7315 Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts for the Getting Started Guide 7.3 is in the WIP folder on NextCloud. Fixed the problem with the Apple Alt key symbol. Do not apply any character format. Ready for publishing??? Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.3
Ver 02 of GS7306 Getting Started with Impress for the Getting Started Guide 7.3 is in the WIP folder on NextCloud. Minimal corrections from 1st review. Now ready for publishing Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.3
Version 02 of GS7307 Getting Started with Draw for the Getting Started Guide 7.3 is in the WIP folder on NextCloud. It is now ready for publishing. Only minimal corrections carried out from KK’s review. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.3
Hello Team GS7315 Appendix A for the Getting Started Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. This appendix has been made macOS friendly and substantial changes have been made to make it easier to understand. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO 7.3 still crashing on macOS Monterey
Hello Jean and the Team I tested LO 7.3 on my new M1 MacBook Air running macOS 12.2 Monterey. Worked on LG7307 file for over 3 hours. LO 7.3 did not crash and I closed LO normally. My changes were all there when I opened the same file on my Mac mini. My conclusion is that LO 7.3 on an Intel powered Mac running Monterey has a problem. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 3 Feb 2022, at 03:50, Jean Weber wrote: > > For the record, LO 7.3 is still crashing on my 3-year-old MacBook Pro > running macOS Monterey. For now, I’ll stick with 7.2.5 and do any necessary > 7.3 testing & screenshots on Windows or Linux. > > If / when I have the ambition, I’ll follow up to see if I can fix this > locally, for example using options in Safe Mode, resetting user profile, > whatever. And check bug reports, etc. Right now, I have other things to do. > > Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO 7.3 still crashing on macOS Monterey
Hello Kevin Pardon my ignorance, but what is Skia? There are several options in Preferences > LibreOffice > View. Which one do I disable? Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 3 Feb 2022, at 04:08, Kevin Suo wrote: > > Could you test to see if it still crashes when disable Skia (via Preference > > LibreOffice > View" dialog. > > There are several bug reports with regarding the crash on mac with Skia and > it is now disabled for 7.3 by the following commit, which may be avalible on > 7.3.1 release: > https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-7-3=290957ad1383565c97201360defdeae9ae5ef502 > > > 于 2022年2月3日 GMT+08:00 上午10:50:45, Jean Weber 写到: >> For the record, LO 7.3 is still crashing on my 3-year-old MacBook Pro >> running macOS Monterey. For now, I’ll stick with 7.2.5 and do any necessary >> 7.3 testing & screenshots on Windows or Linux. >> >> If / when I have the ambition, I’ll follow up to see if I can fix this >> locally, for example using options in Safe Mode, resetting user profile, >> whatever. And check bug reports, etc. Right now, I have other things to do. >> >> Jean >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.3
Hello Jean and the Team I have taken GS7315 Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts for an update. Should be ready early next week. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 3 Feb 2022, at 02:42, Jean Weber wrote: > > Hi team, > As you know, LO 7.3 was announced yesterday. Would be good if we can > finish updating the book and get it published. > > I am revising the chapters that I updated and Kees reviewed. As I get > them done, I am putting them in WiP with _02_ in the filenames and > updating the Status spreadsheet. People can do second reviews if you > wish, but most of the UI changes have been minor, so that may not be > necessary; the major items are behind the scenes AFAICT. > > Peter has updated the Impress and Draw chapters. I think that flywire > (whoever that is) will be working on Ch8 (Base). > > Other chapters needing someone to update them, or say that no changes > are required, are Calc, Macros, and Keyboard Shortcuts. I will do the > Preface last. > > Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.3
Version 01 of Chapter 7, Getting Started with Draw for the Getting Started Guide 7.3 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its review and comment. There has been a few additions in this update. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] macOS Keyboard Shortcuts
To help everybody with the symbols used by Apple on their keyboards, I have uploaded a small document (macOS Keyboard Shortcuts) with the official keyboard shortcuts from the Apple support website. The file is on NextCloud in the English Contributor Resources folder. Please feel free to download and use. The fonts used are Liberation Serif and Liberation Sans so there should no problem copying and pasting the symbols into an LO document. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] MacOS info for all books
Hello Martin and the rest of the DocTeam My replies to the points put forward are as follows: • How often do such combinations appear in the guides, i.e. "win/linux-shortcut (macOS mac-shortcut)”? No answer to this one. It all depends on the user guide. I only have experience of the Impress and Draw guides and (macOS mac-shortcut) appears a lot less than the words “keyboard shortcut”. • Would this not render the text less readable, comprehensive? Do not think so. This type of phrasing was very common in user guides that I have created in the past. • If the string "Ctrl-C (macOS Cmd+C)" appears 10 times in the same guide - is that OK? Yes it is OK. The words “keyboard shortcut” do appear several times in a user guide. (macOS ) would appear a lot less. • Does this impact the accessibility of the guides in any way (lots of text in brackets)? IMO it does not, especially if answers a user’s question of what to do next. • Does this make the "Using LibreOffice on macOS" table redundant - except for the Options command menu path? This table is still relevant. It does explain and makes LO a little more macOS user friendly. • Should the Options command menu path be treated the same way in the guides' texts (Options-win/linux-path (macOS Options-macos-path)? The options shortcut modifier will be treated the same as the command modifier, for example Alt+Shift+F5 (macOS ⎇+Shift+F5) (cannot get the Apple Alt symbol to appear in my mail program. It is the other way up on the keyboard). To explain how to use software with procedures does require a lot of duplication of phrases and procedural steps. That is very common across all types of user guides. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 24 Jan 2022, at 13:10, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > > Hello, > > I propose to discuss this and decide on a solution for all the guides and all > the writers, via the list and/or the documentation team weekly meeting. > > And then to document the approach in the documentation-writing > guidelines/guide. > > The questions that pop to my mind: > How often do such combinations appear in the guides, i.e. "win/linux-shortcut > (macOS mac-shortcut)"? > Would this not render the text less readable, comprehensive? > If the string "Ctrl-C (macOS Cmd+C)" appears 10 times in the same guide - is > that OK? > Does this impact the accessibility of the guides in any way (lots of text in > brackets)? > Does this make the "Using LibreOffice on macOS" table redundant - except for > the Options command menu path? > Should the Options command menu path be treated the same way in the guides' > texts (Options-win/linux-path (macOS Options-macos-path)? > Lp, m. > > V V pon., 24. jan. 2022 ob 09:42 je oseba Peter Schofield <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: > Hello Jean > > I have started to add macOS keyboard shortcuts to user guides. For example > “Use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+F5 (macOS ⌘+F5)" > > Also I have added a couple of lines to the table for “Using LibreOffice on > macOS” and these are as follows: > > Right-click Ctrl+click and/or right-click depending on computer > setup Opens a context menu > > Ctrl or Control ⌘ and/or Cmd or Command, depending on keyboard > Used with other keys > > Alt ⎇ and/or Alt or Option depending on keyboard > Used with other keys > > I put the keyboard info in because I do have several Apple keyboards and the > differences are there. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > > On 23 Jan 2022, at 00:46, Jean Weber > <mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > In the WG and GS, I am adding a row to the table about "Using LO on > > macOS" and I suggest this be added in all books. > > Between the row for Ctrl (Control) and the row for F11, insert: > > Alt⌥ (Option) Used with other keys > > > > Here is the latest info for macOS regarding JRE. Previous versions of > > GS and WG had info that is now out of date, and Base doesn't seem to > > have anything about macOS; I don't remember which of the other books > > mention this. > > > > For macOS, you need to install Oracle’s Java Development Kit (JDK), > > not just the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). Download links can be > > found at: https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/downloads/#jdk17-mac > > <https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/downloads/#jdk17-mac> > > > > Jean > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-m
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.3
Chapter 6 Getting Started with Impress for the Getting Started Guide 7.3 is now ready for review and comment. There a few changes and corrections. Also, text columns has been added. Now for Chapter 7 Getting Started with Draw. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] MacOS info for all books
Hello Jean I have started to add macOS keyboard shortcuts to user guides. For example “Use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+F5 (macOS ⌘+F5)" Also I have added a couple of lines to the table for “Using LibreOffice on macOS” and these are as follows: Right-click Ctrl+click and/or right-click depending on computer setup Opens a context menu Ctrl or Control ⌘ and/or Cmd or Command, depending on keyboard Used with other keys Alt ⎇ and/or Alt or Option depending on keyboard Used with other keys I put the keyboard info in because I do have several Apple keyboards and the differences are there. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 23 Jan 2022, at 00:46, Jean Weber wrote: > > In the WG and GS, I am adding a row to the table about "Using LO on > macOS" and I suggest this be added in all books. > Between the row for Ctrl (Control) and the row for F11, insert: > Alt⌥ (Option) Used with other keys > > Here is the latest info for macOS regarding JRE. Previous versions of > GS and WG had info that is now out of date, and Base doesn't seem to > have anything about macOS; I don't remember which of the other books > mention this. > > For macOS, you need to install Oracle’s Java Development Kit (JDK), > not just the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). Download links can be > found at: https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/downloads/#jdk17-mac > > Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 7.3 crashing
Thanks Olivier for the Bugzilla link. Jean/Kevin Bug report now submitted. I will now test LO 7.3 using macOS 10.15.7 Catalina on an old MacBook Pro. Not sure how to download and install a daily build for macOS. Do you have a link to where the daily build is located? Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 14 Jan 2022, at 02:43, Kevin Suo wrote: > > Why not try a daily build, so that you can be sure it is fixed there already > before you are waiting? > > > 于 2022年1月14日 GMT+08:00 上午3:54:26, Jean Weber 写到: > I was having the same problem with RC1 on Monterey, so I’ve been using the > Windows version while I wait for RC2, due out this week. If you file a bug > report, I’ll add to it. > > Jean > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 22:57 Peter Schofield wrote: > > Can someone send me a link to Bugzilla so I can submit a bug for > LibreOffice 7.3. > > LO 7.3 keeps crashing when I am using it on a macOS 12.1 Monterey on a Mac > mini. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > <https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/> > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > <https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Bugzilla login
Can someone send me a link to Bugzilla so I can submit a bug for LibreOffice 7.3. LO 7.3 keeps crashing when I am using it on a macOS 12.1 Monterey on a Mac mini. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft chapters for Getting Started 7.3
Hello Martin Will do. I shall download the chapters today. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 13 Jan 2022, at 09:17, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > > Hello, > > Peter, it would be great if you could update both chapters for the GS guide, > so that the project can move forward as it is the basic guide in the series. > > Lp, m. > > V V čet., 13. jan. 2022 ob 09:13 je oseba Peter Schofield <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: > I have started updating the Impress Guide to 7.3. So far it looks like it > will be reasonably easy to update with minimal changes. > > I am presuming the Draw Guide to 7.3 will be the same. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > > On 13 Jan 2022, at 06:32, Jean Weber > <mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I have put ten chapters of GS 7.3 on NextCloud. Tracked changes. Ready for > > review. Status spreadsheet updated. I’m sure I’ve missed something, so > > please review carefully. > > > > Other chapters (including Calc, Draw, Impress, Base) should probably be > > updated by other people, but I suspect not much is needed - 7.3 seems to be > > mostly behind-the-scenes improvements or details best left to the component > > guides. > > > > Jean > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > <mailto:documentation%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org> > > Problems? > > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > <https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> > > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> > > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > > <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/> > > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > <https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy> > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > <mailto:documentation%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org> > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > <https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/> > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > <https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft chapters for Getting Started 7.3
I have started updating the Impress Guide to 7.3. So far it looks like it will be reasonably easy to update with minimal changes. I am presuming the Draw Guide to 7.3 will be the same. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 13 Jan 2022, at 06:32, Jean Weber wrote: > > I have put ten chapters of GS 7.3 on NextCloud. Tracked changes. Ready for > review. Status spreadsheet updated. I’m sure I’ve missed something, so > please review carefully. > > Other chapters (including Calc, Draw, Impress, Base) should probably be > updated by other people, but I suspect not much is needed - 7.3 seems to be > mostly behind-the-scenes improvements or details best left to the component > guides. > > Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] macOS user guide
Hello Martin The macOS keyboard shortcuts were already in Appendix A for the Draw and Impress Guides. I just added them to Appendix B in the Draw Guide. Regards Peter Schofield Sent from my iPad Mini > On 6 Jan 2022, at 13:29, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > > > Hello, Peter, > > maybe all this needs to be first discussed thoroughly before a lot of work is > instilled into adding things into the current form of the guide(s). > So I suggest to first have a consensus of the Doc Team about this. > > Best regards, > m. > > V V čet., 6. jan. 2022 ob 12:40 je oseba Peter Schofield > napisala: >> Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts and Appendix B Toolbars for the Draw Guide 7.2 >> do have keyboard shortcuts for macOS included. >> >> When I start the Impress Guide 7.3, I will look at the printing and >> inclusion of the macOS print dialogs into the user guide. >> >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] macOS user guide
Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts and Appendix B Toolbars for the Draw Guide 7.2 do have keyboard shortcuts for macOS included. When I start the Impress Guide 7.3, I will look at the printing and inclusion of the macOS print dialogs into the user guide. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.2 published
The Draw Guide 7.2 and the separate chapter files have been published and PDF Files created. The files are available on the Published and PDF folders on NextCloud. Now for the Impress Guide 7.3. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
