Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 is published
Hi Olivier, Thank you for publishing this version of the document. I am interested in reviewing / updating Chapter 3 (Tables) and have put my initials against it in the tracking spreadsheet. This chapter makes use of the Media_without_Macros.odb database and, in case it needs some updates for better figures or any other reason, I have added that item to the spreadsheet and placed my initials against it. I'm not sure how long my work on these two items will take and have reflected that in the spreadsheet too. Regards, Steve On 07/06/2022 19:14, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hello Team The Base Guide 7.3 Revision 0 is now published and available for download. https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/ https://books.libreoffice.org/en/ The book is an update from the Base Guide 7.2, reviewed and enhanced by Steve Fanning, Robert Großkopf, Vasudev Narayanan and flywire. The book was created using a master document and chapters were adjusted to fit the master document specifics. In particular, we wrapped the copyright section and the Table of Contents of each chapter is a section that is hidden when build in the master document. The PDF and the ODT file were exported directly from the master document. The Base Guide team reviewed and updated the Guide in a continuous mode (time based) and the Revision 1 (7.3 final) is scheduled for end of July 2022. After that, the Base Guide team will continue the work under the title Base Guide 7.4. The team and the volunteers are now invited to pick the published chapter and update, following the standard rules of revision (track-changes, file naming convention, etc...) and upload it in the folder /Published-Rev1/) for later publication. By end of July, I'll pick the updates and rebuild the book. The control sŕeadsheet is now Guide Status BG73-Rev1.ods Kind regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.2 Chapter "List Box"
Hi All, Thanks for that Robert. Just to clarify, I think that you are referring to Chapter 4 Forms. Between Figures 16 and 17 (page 23 in the chapter file), there is a list item entitled "Events tab". At the end of that item is the text "List box", which should be a heading on a new line, with the Heading 3 style. Olivier, this problem still exists in the file in the Published folder. Would it be possible to correct it before final publication? Regards, Steve On 29/05/2022 16:08, Robert Großkopf wrote: Hi *, looking or the chapter "List Box" (Forms → Form Properties → Properties of controls → List Box). Content is there, but header appers at the end of chapter "Formatted field" in Base Guide 7.2. So it won't appear as separate entry. Hope it will be corrected in Base Guide 7.3 Regards Robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2
Hi flywire, Thanks for the comments, which I have reviewed and actioned as appropriate. I have rejected: • Some comments that seem to be simply changing the order of words in sentences that already seem reasonably well structured and clear. • Comments that propose adding more detail about the process of downloading and installing an ODBC driver, and then creating an ODBC data source name (DSN). I have deliberately assumed that this has little to do with Base and is, or should be, described in the documentation for the relevant ODBC driver. If these actions are not described adequately in a particular example of a driver’s documentation, then it might be better to propose improvements there rather than trying to rectify the problem in the Base Guide. I have updated the date in the file name and returned the chapter to the NextCloud WIP folder, moving previous versions to the Archived folder. Having spent a fair amount of time already on this chapter, I will leave others to process any further comments raised by any reviewers. Regards, Steve On 04/05/2022 12:54, flywire wrote: This is the first opportunity for feedback on the chapter - BG7402-CreatingADatabase_SF_FW_04May2022.odt in WIP folder. The revised chapter is well written and much easier to read with a lot of good information. It's good to see it links the Getting Started Guide and includes the SQLite database. I'm most familiar with SQLite after working through it in detail to create this section for the current guide so I've focused on it as an example. Issues are noted in the comments and indicative text is given with tracked changes. The intention is for discussion. My overall view is the guide is too confusing for creating a simple SQLite database. The SQLite process is fairly simple but it is confused by being guided through a complicated install with links to many other places with exceptions to follow. I'm very familiar with the process but I couldn't keep track of the SQLite process using a pdf on a PC. Options should really be tested with a few typical users, especially the likes of SQLite which is well down the list. I suggest a summary after each heading where other parts of the guide are referred to for the details. This would likely be enough for many users leaving the references for additional guidance as required. The alternative would be to start with creating the simplest database and work through to the more complex. The connecting with ODBC Initial preparation has two clearly separate parts which, to make it easier to navigate, need to be split under headings for Install ODBC Driver and Configure database ODBC connection. ODBC driver installation is generally well done but configuring database ODBC connection refers to installation instructions that don't exist and vary by OS. Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2
Hello all. Olivier, would you like me to take assess these comments? Regards, Steve On 04/05/2022 12:54, flywire wrote: This is the first opportunity for feedback on the chapter - BG7402-CreatingADatabase_SF_FW_04May2022.odt in WIP folder. The revised chapter is well written and much easier to read with a lot of good information. It's good to see it links the Getting Started Guide and includes the SQLite database. I'm most familiar with SQLite after working through it in detail to create this section for the current guide so I've focused on it as an example. Issues are noted in the comments and indicative text is given with tracked changes. The intention is for discussion. My overall view is the guide is too confusing for creating a simple SQLite database. The SQLite process is fairly simple but it is confused by being guided through a complicated install with links to many other places with exceptions to follow. I'm very familiar with the process but I couldn't keep track of the SQLite process using a pdf on a PC. Options should really be tested with a few typical users, especially the likes of SQLite which is well down the list. I suggest a summary after each heading where other parts of the guide are referred to for the details. This would likely be enough for many users leaving the references for additional guidance as required. The alternative would be to start with creating the simplest database and work through to the more complex. The connecting with ODBC Initial preparation has two clearly separate parts which, to make it easier to navigate, need to be split under headings for Install ODBC Driver and Configure database ODBC connection. ODBC driver installation is generally well done but configuring database ODBC connection refers to installation instructions that don't exist and vary by OS. Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2
Hi All, I have placed a proposed new version of Chapter 2 in the WIP folder, moving all previous versions of the chapter to the Archived folder. I hope it is an improvement. The chapter has essentially been re-written and so I recommend that it be given a thorough review before issue. Because of the level of change throughout the chapter since the previous draft, changes are not tracked in the document. I wasn't sure how to handle the reviews that have already been done on the previous version of the chapter within the tracking spreadsheet and so I did nothing. Perhaps Olivier could handle that as he sees fit. Many thanks to Robert Großkopf for his assistance and advice during my work on this chapter. Regards, Steve On 03/05/2022 22:43, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Steve PLease add it to the WIP folder, as usual. Regards Olivier Em 03/05/2022 17:13, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hi Olivier, I have at last finished the time-consuming task of (hopefully) improving Chapter 2! Where in NextCloud would you prefer me to place the updated file for its review? If I place it in the Base Guide > 7.3 folder then there might be an expectation that we will include this new file in the first iteration of the 7.3 BG. A proper review of the chapter (which has essentially been re-written) could take some time. Shall I put it in a new folder structure called something like Base Guide > 7.3 R2? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2
Hi Olivier, I have at last finished the time-consuming task of (hopefully) improving Chapter 2! Where in NextCloud would you prefer me to place the updated file for its review? If I place it in the Base Guide > 7.3 folder then there might be an expectation that we will include this new file in the first iteration of the 7.3 BG. A proper review of the chapter (which has essentially been re-written) could take some time. Shall I put it in a new folder structure called something like Base Guide > 7.3 R2? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at 18:00 UTC
Hi Olivier, Unfortunately I cannot attend today's meeting. For information, I am continuing to work on a major update to Chapter 2 of the Base Guide (Creating a Database). Regards, Steve On 14/04/2022 00:49, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) ! Our documentation team meeting will take place today at 18:00 UTC We will use the following jitsi meeting room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam The meeting room is supposed to work will all browsers without the need of a specific plugin. You can use a mobile app in your Android or Iphone. The documentation pad for the meeting minute is http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation Main topics: + New Forum for Docuemntation team (testing) + On-going activities + New developments in the software (Calc, Writer)... See you later! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Errors on chapter 2 of database guide
Hi Juan, Thank you for your comments, which are very helpful. I am currently updating all sections of this chapter and trying to correct as many issues as I can. It is quite a time consuming task but is progressing well. When I've finished I will inform this mailing list and I hope you will be able to review the changes then. Regards, Steve Fanning On 26/03/2022 15:59, Juan C. Sanz wrote: Hello. I have been reading the /Base guide/, and in chapter 2, I have been able to see, what, under my point of view, are several errors, all of them related to the external connection to a Firebird database. The first of them, although certainly not really an error, but an outdated one, can be found on page 73 of the PDF file of the Base Guide 7.2. *Create a database user*. The whole procedure is based on the use of */gsec/* though, in the Firebird 3 quick start guide says: “/5.1. User management/ /In Firebird 3, user management is done entirely through SQL commands. Users of previous versions are probably familiar with the //*gsec*//utility for this task. //*It is still present, but deprecated*//…”/ So it would be more correct to use the SQL procedure from isql or isql-fb to create and authorize users, and also to change the sysdba password. According to the Firebird 3 quick install guide, the procedure to change the administrator password is as follows: /If the password is masterkey and your server is exposed to the Internet at all - or even to a local network, unless you trust every user with the SYSDBA password - you should change it immediately./ /Fire up isql or another Firebird client and connect to a database. In this example, the "employee" example database is used, because its alias is always present in a freshly installed Firebird setup:/ connect localhost:employee user sysdba password masterkey; /If you do this in isql, it should respond with:/ Database: localhost:employee, User: SYSDBA /Now alter the sysdba password:/ alter user sysdba set password 'Zis4_viZuna83YoYoYo'; And the procedure to create a new user is: /Assuming you are connected to a database as SYSDBA, you can add a user account as follows:/ create user billyboy password 'TooLongFor8099Comfort'; On the other hand the Direct connection to Firebird procedure is completely wrong, it seems that it is a copy-paste of the connection to PostgreSQL, but that in Firebird it does not work. The procedure would be: * In the Database wizard select Connect to an existing database and then Firebird file. * In step 2, in the text box type the connection string: o If you want to make the connection to an external, serverless Firebird database file, the string would be of the type file:///path/to/the/file.fdb, although you can select the file directly with the Browse button. o If you want to connect to a Firebird database hosted on a Firebird server, the connection string should be of the type server/portNumber:FirebirdRegisteredDatabaseName or server/portNumber:/path/to/the/file.fdb. The port part (/portNumber) can be omitted if the port is the default Firebird port (3306). FirebirdRegisteredDatabaseName refers to a database registered in the Firebird databases.conf file. * In step 3: o If you are making a connection to an external, serverless Firebird database file, do not put username and password. o -If the connection is to a Firebird database hosted on a Firebird server, you must provide the necessary credentials to connect to the database hosted on the server. The rest of the steps are the same as for the other connections. Unfortunately my English is not good enough to modify the guide, so I hope some of you can do it. I´m here if you have any question. Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Team Meeting on Thursdays
Hi Olivier, Apologies but I won't be able to attend a meeting tomorrow. If you have any specific questions about the current status of the 7.3 Base Guide update that I might be able to answer, then I will try and do so via email. For those who may not be aware, I am continuing to work behind the scenes to improve Chapter 2 (Creating a Database). I cannot forecast exactly when it will be available for review. Regards, Steve On 16/02/2022 15:45, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Team I am available to change the meeting hour of our Thursday meeting if that helps some of you to attend. I propose to meet from 09:00 UTC on, which turns to be 6:00 AM in Rio de Janeiro, mid-morning in Europe and hopefully better for you in Asia and not too late in the Far East (including AUS+NZ) Please let's vote here for a better meeting hour for you. This next Thursday, I have plenty of question regarding the Base Guide, Kind regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide Coordination
Hello everybody. Due to unforeseen circumstances, I cannot currently contribute enough of my time to effectively coordinate the issue of a 7.3 Base Guide. It would be much appreciated if somebody else could take on the role. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6
Hello everybody, I have processed the comments on Chapter 5 (Queries) and returned the updated document to the Work in Progress folder. The new file is called BG7305-Queries_SF_FW_SF_31Jan2022.odt and it is ready for 2nd review if anybody is available. Regards, Steve On 30/01/2022 14:11, Steve Fanning wrote: Hi, Thanks for the comments. I will check through the tracked changes and process them in the next few days. As for the six additional comments listed below, I'd prefer to address the document-related issues when we get around to properly checking and updating the affected chapter. Perhaps we need a mechanism to maintain a list of BG issues that we know about, but haven't time to resolve at present? Regards, Steve On 30/01/2022 13:19, flywire wrote: Review of Chapter 5 complete - BG7305-Queries_SF_NI_31Jan2022.odt - Worked through demo database. - References added for remaining Figures and Table. Comments for the record and wider consideration: 1. Can't select multiple fields and apply the same action to all, eg add fields to query grid 2. Inconsistent icon sets will make interpretation of documentation more difficult – see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144631, consider naming commands instead of showing buttons 3. Entering queries - would be useful to save queries 4. Figure 23 - Media titles in German language 5. Figure 23 does not calculate $8 reported in the following paragraph 6. Query enhancement using SQL Mode - theory only with no practice dataset -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapter 10 and Appendices A & B
Thanks Olivier. I have accepted all the tracked changes. With regards to the remarks in yellow comments: * Some blank cells in the tables are assumed to imply that the HSQLDB and Firebird functions are equivalent. It is suggested that we populate such cells with the word "idem". I agree that the current blank cells are not ideal. However, I am not convinced that the situation is improved by simply populating an empty cell with such a string, without actually making sure that the functions are truly equivalent. I think that such work is beyond the scope of this update and should be postponed until we have time to properly check the information in this appendix. * There are blank cells in the description of some Firebird entries in the Operators and statements section. These could be populated using information on referenced web pages.Again I agree but the effort involved is beyond the scope of the update planned at this iteration. We would also need to be careful to use the correct Firebird information - the referenced pages relate to Firebird 4, whereas LO currently uses Firebird 3.0.7. Looking ahead I think that this appendix would be better removed from the BG and transferred to a wiki page which could utilise hyperlinks to the correct information on the HSQLDB and Firebird websites, highlighting differences between the two. Regards, Steve On 28/01/2022 00:21, Olivier Hallot wrote: I reviewed the Appendix B and here are my findings. Track changes are ON. 1) Added Heading2 between the tables to better split them and have a way to access the tables from the TOC 2) Filled some blank cells in the tables (a few only actually) 3) Some remarks in yellow comments... The comparison is extensive, and may require continuous update. The plan is to phase-out HSQLDB and stick with Firebird, so it is possible that this appendix will go away in the future. However, LO is late in Firebird implementation and Firebird is recommended for new databases only. I'm also reviewing Help pages on Base and discovering a set of outdated contents, which will require some effort to update. I plan to jump between my findings in Help and BG. Kind regards Olivier Em 26/01/2022 12:25, Olivier Hallot escreveu: Hello Steve I'm taking Appendix B for review. I'll return on Monday 31st or sooner. regards Olivier Em 26/01/2022 10:26, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hello everybody, I have placed three updated files in the relevant NextCloud folder: * BG7310-DatabaseMaintenance_SF_26Jan2022.odt * BG7311-AppendixA-CommonDatabaseTasks_SF_26Jan2022.odt * BG7312-AppendixB-CompareHSQLDBAndFirebird_SF_26Jan2022 These three files are now in the 7.3 template, include captions for figures and tables, and have a little less negativity in the text (e.g., less use of the word "unfortunately"; etc). With regards to Appendix B, I had to implement the modifications with track changes off - I tried to use track changes but it proved impossible due to the re-structuring of tables that was needed. The files for Chapter 10 and Appendix A were updated with track changes on. None of these three are scheduled for significant updates at this issue. Please could somebody review the figure / table captions, and any other tracked changes to make sure I haven’t done anything stupid? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base - BG7303 - Linking to Databases - First Review
Hello everybody, I have processed the comments on Chapter 7 (Linking to Databases) and returned the updated document to the Work in Progress folder. The new file is called BG7307-LinkingToDatabases_SF_VN_30Jan2022.odt and it is ready for 2nd review if anybody is available. A few matters arising: 1. Dev has noted that several figures in Chapter 7 would benefit from being anglicized. As mentioned in an earlier email, this is a recurring theme throughout many chapters and my recommendation is that we do such updates at a later issue, when we have time to thoroughly review and update affected chapters. 2. The section entitled "Importing PDF records" refers to a footnote that mentions a sample database called "Example_PDFFormular_Import.odb". Does anybody know if a copy of this exists - it doesn't appear to be in the same ZIP file as the other sample databases. 3. The Note after Figure 19 mentions a bug in the Mail Merge Wizard. Does anybody know if this bug still exists and, if so, what is the number of this bug? 4. As far as I am aware, the books do not normally contain hyperlinked cross-references to other books or to other chapters in the same book. Is that everybody else's understanding? 5. It has been suggested that in sections of code we could disable spell checking by selecting the code and clicking Tools > Language > For Selection > None. Is anybody aware of any issues that might arise if we do this? Regards, Steve On 28/01/2022 09:18, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Hi - I am checking in after first review with review comments. The status sheet is also updated. Thank you -Dev On 27/01/22 14:24, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Hi - I am checking out BG7307 for first review. The ETC is on 29-Jan-2022. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base 7.3 BG7303 - First Review
Hello everybody, I have processed the comments on this chapter and returned the updated document to the Work in Progress folder. The new file is called BG7303-Tables_SF_VN_30Jan2022.odt and it is ready for 2nd review if anybody is available. Dev has noted that several figures in Chapter 3 would benefit from being anglicized. This is a recurring theme throughout many chapters and my recommendation is that we do such updates at a later issue, when we have time to thoroughly review and update affected chapters. Regards, Steve On 24/01/2022 23:23, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking in BG7303 Tables after first review. I have updated the status sheet. Thank you -Dev On 22/01/22 13:55, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Sure Steve, I will follow that. Regards -Dev On 21/01/22 22:51, Steve Fanning wrote: Hi Dev, Thanks for that. This chapter and those that follow have had no significant update since the last issue. All that's changed is the figure captions (many added, some edited) and a few minor edits to "tone down" any negative statements that I found. I implemented all edits with track changes switched on. Please focus the review on those aspects to make sure that I've done nothing stupid. Beyond that it would be better not to propose further changes at this time because we haven't got the time or people to update the document fully in a reasonable timescale for 7.3. Regards, Steve On 21/01/2022 16:55, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking out BG7303 Tables for first review. I have updated the status sheet. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6
Hi, Thanks for the comments. I will check through the tracked changes and process them in the next few days. As for the six additional comments listed below, I'd prefer to address the document-related issues when we get around to properly checking and updating the affected chapter. Perhaps we need a mechanism to maintain a list of BG issues that we know about, but haven't time to resolve at present? Regards, Steve On 30/01/2022 13:19, flywire wrote: Review of Chapter 5 complete - BG7305-Queries_SF_NI_31Jan2022.odt - Worked through demo database. - References added for remaining Figures and Table. Comments for the record and wider consideration: 1. Can't select multiple fields and apply the same action to all, eg add fields to query grid 2. Inconsistent icon sets will make interpretation of documentation more difficult – see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144631, consider naming commands instead of showing buttons 3. Entering queries - would be useful to save queries 4. Figure 23 - Media titles in German language 5. Figure 23 does not calculate $8 reported in the following paragraph 6. Query enhancement using SQL Mode - theory only with no practice dataset -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base v7.3: Chapter 1 - BG7301
Hello everybody, I have updated Chapter 1 to address the additional comments raised and, assuming that it has had sufficient reviewing now, have placed the updated file in the Published folder. Regards, Steve On 22/01/2022 12:15, Steve Fanning wrote: Hello everybody. Many thanks to Dev, Robert, and Flywire for providing helpful comments on draft Chapter 1 of the 7.3 Base Guide. I have considered all comments and produced an updated version of the document, which can be found in NextCloud. Changes to address all agreed comments have been made with track changes on. Please note however that the images for Figures 19, 53, 57, 81, 85 have been replaced but these modifications don’t appear to be recognized as tracked changes. It would be very helpful if Dev, Robert, and Flywire could check this updated version to see if they are happy with the changes. Can I suggest that we discuss any residual issues in this email list rather than editing the document further? I can then update it again if required. My current thoughts are that this chapter has now had a good review by multiple people, and it probably isn’t worth a formal 2nd review cycle. Does anybody disagree? Regards, Steve On 15/01/2022 23:27, Steve Fanning wrote: Hi Dev, Many thanks for returning your comments on Chapter 1. I will address all of the comments that I have received on the latest draft of this chapter in the next few days. Regards, Steve On 08/01/2022 14:08, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking out Base v7.3 BG7301 Chapter 1 for first review. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base v7.3: Chapter 1 - BG7301
Thanks for the comments. I have (hopefully) clarified the text for your first suggestion. I haven't made a change for this second point. The three database systems currently in the brief list on this page are those for which we have a direct connection route (as described in Chapter 2). As I understand it Base does not offer a direct connection to SQLite but connections are via ODBC - this is covered by the paragraph after the bullet points mentioned. Regards, Steve On 22/01/2022 22:48, flywire wrote: Two quick comments: 1. p4 Database Creation: New embedded HSQLDB databases can be created using the built-in database engine. (An embedded database engine doesn't imply an embedded database, needs to be contrasted with an external database.) 2. p6 add sqlite ?? Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] MacOS info for all books
Hi Jean, I have updated Chapter 1 of the Base Guide accordingly. However, I have a built-in dislike of web addresses like this that include the version number of the software to be downloaded. What happens when versions 18, 19, 20, ... come along. Will we have to update the text of the guides each time? Can I offer the following alternative text, which seems to side-step this potential irritation? * "For macOS, you need to install Oracle’s Java Development Kit (JDK), not just the JRE. Download links can be found by selecting the macOS option at: https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/downloads/.; I've used this revised text in the Base Guide but can change again if anybody has other ideas. Regards, Steve On 22/01/2022 23:46, Jean Weber wrote: In the WG and GS, I am adding a row to the table about "Using LO on macOS" and I suggest this be added in all books. Between the row for Ctrl (Control) and the row for F11, insert: Alt⌥ (Option) Used with other keys Here is the latest info for macOS regarding JRE. Previous versions of GS and WG had info that is now out of date, and Base doesn't seem to have anything about macOS; I don't remember which of the other books mention this. For macOS, you need to install Oracle’s Java Development Kit (JDK), not just the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). Download links can be found at:https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/downloads/#jdk17-mac Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapter 10 and Appendices A & B
Hello everybody, I have placed three updated files in the relevant NextCloud folder: * BG7310-DatabaseMaintenance_SF_26Jan2022.odt * BG7311-AppendixA-CommonDatabaseTasks_SF_26Jan2022.odt * BG7312-AppendixB-CompareHSQLDBAndFirebird_SF_26Jan2022 These three files are now in the 7.3 template, include captions for figures and tables, and have a little less negativity in the text (e.g., less use of the word "unfortunately"; etc). With regards to Appendix B, I had to implement the modifications with track changes off - I tried to use track changes but it proved impossible due to the re-structuring of tables that was needed. The files for Chapter 10 and Appendix A were updated with track changes on. None of these three are scheduled for significant updates at this issue. Please could somebody review the figure / table captions, and any other tracked changes to make sure I haven’t done anything stupid? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 8 and 9
Hello everybody, I have placed two updated files in the relevant NextCloud folder: * BG7308-DatabaseTasks_SF_23Jan2022.odt * BG7209-Macros_SF_24Jan2022.odt These two files are now in the 7.3 template, include captions for figures and tables, and have a little less negativity in the text (e.g., less use of the word "unfortunately"; etc). Chapters 8 and 9 are not scheduled for significant updates at this issue. Please could somebody review the figure / table captions, and any other tracked changes in these two to make sure I haven’t done anything stupid? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] MacOS info for all books
Thanks Jean. I'll update the Base Guide accordingly. Regards, Steve On 22/01/2022 23:46, Jean Weber wrote: In the WG and GS, I am adding a row to the table about "Using LO on macOS" and I suggest this be added in all books. Between the row for Ctrl (Control) and the row for F11, insert: Alt⌥ (Option) Used with other keys Here is the latest info for macOS regarding JRE. Previous versions of GS and WG had info that is now out of date, and Base doesn't seem to have anything about macOS; I don't remember which of the other books mention this. For macOS, you need to install Oracle’s Java Development Kit (JDK), not just the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). Download links can be found at: https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/downloads/#jdk17-mac Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base BG7302 - Chapter 2 - First Review
Thanks for drafting the material. However, please do not put a file with that name in the WIP folder at this stage. Feel free to put your proposed material in a stand-alone file in the WIP folder, with some different file name that makes it obvious that it is a draft containing new, unreviewed material (and is not just a routine part of our update cycle). Then we can look at the new text, check if it is appropriate for inclusion and, if so, we can decide if it can be included at this issue. Regards, Steve On 22/01/2022 20:15, flywire wrote: The mysql example has many options but that makes it complicated as the first external database example. I agree establishing an ODBC-connection to Base could be complicated so that was a focus of the instructions. With macOS and linux considerations it might become complicated too (I can't test it) or perhaps refer users to mysql for details. I'll assume a sqlite example is accepted. Steve, I have added sqlite text to the Ch2 WIP document without detailed formatting. Can I add BG7302-CreatingADatabase_SF_VN_FW_23Jan2022.odt to the WIP folder as the basis for comment? Regards On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 2:17 AM Robert Großkopf wrote: I'd like to see sqlite added as the first example of an external database. Why should this be the first example? There are databases, which are connected with direct drivers to Base. Sqlite is a database, which could only work with ODBC-connection to Base. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base v7.3: Chapter 1 - BG7301
Hello everybody. Many thanks to Dev, Robert, and Flywire for providing helpful comments on draft Chapter 1 of the 7.3 Base Guide. I have considered all comments and produced an updated version of the document, which can be found in NextCloud. Changes to address all agreed comments have been made with track changes on. Please note however that the images for Figures 19, 53, 57, 81, 85 have been replaced but these modifications don’t appear to be recognized as tracked changes. It would be very helpful if Dev, Robert, and Flywire could check this updated version to see if they are happy with the changes. Can I suggest that we discuss any residual issues in this email list rather than editing the document further? I can then update it again if required. My current thoughts are that this chapter has now had a good review by multiple people, and it probably isn’t worth a formal 2nd review cycle. Does anybody disagree? Regards, Steve On 15/01/2022 23:27, Steve Fanning wrote: Hi Dev, Many thanks for returning your comments on Chapter 1. I will address all of the comments that I have received on the latest draft of this chapter in the next few days. Regards, Steve On 08/01/2022 14:08, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking out Base v7.3 BG7301 Chapter 1 for first review. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base 7.3 BG7303 - First Review
Hi Dev, Thanks for that. This chapter and those that follow have had no significant update since the last issue. All that's changed is the figure captions (many added, some edited) and a few minor edits to "tone down" any negative statements that I found. I implemented all edits with track changes switched on. Please focus the review on those aspects to make sure that I've done nothing stupid. Beyond that it would be better not to propose further changes at this time because we haven't got the time or people to update the document fully in a reasonable timescale for 7.3. Regards, Steve On 21/01/2022 16:55, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking out BG7303 Tables for first review. I have updated the status sheet. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapter 7
Hello everybody, I have placed an updated version of BG7307-LinkingToDatabases.odt in the relevant NextCloud folder. The file is now in the 7.3 template and includes captions for figures. Chapter 7 is not scheduled for a significant update at this issue. Please could somebody review the figure captions and any other tracked changes to make sure I haven’t done anything stupid? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6
Thank you for those comments. With regards to the two general points: 1. “I note most of the figures used are not referenced in the text”. This is the situation throughout the document and was inherited from the previous issue. As we review and update chapters more fully (such as the work we are doing for Chapters 1 and 2 at this update) then I am ensuring that the figures are referenced in the text. For other chapters, that update will have to wait until subsequent issues of the document. 2. “What is the capitalisation guide for figure text?”. Sentence-style capitalization is currently the norm in our guides. I have addressed your other comments on Chapter 5 (Queries) and uploaded the revised file to NextCloud. Regards, Steve On 16/01/2022 12:43, flywire wrote: These are comments in the vicinity of changes as I've skimmed chapters and haven't followed the examples using Base ( https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#What_to_look_for_in_an_update_or_review ). It's good to see the document tone updated. * BG7305-Queries_SF_12Jan2022.odt - I note most of the figures used are not referenced in the text. - What is the capitalisation guide for figure text? - Paragraph after Figure 11 - *That* is normally a redundant word - Figure 17 Count... prefer *shows* (used extensively in guides) alternatively *calculates* - Figure 19 - delete unexpectedly - The paragraph under Figure 36 end of first sentence... as Figure 36 shows. - Other changes read well * BG7306-Reports_SF_14Jan2022.odt - Changes read well -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6
Thanks for that. I agree that the specific figure that you mention in Chapter 5 of the Base Guide is crowded. It should be replaced when we get around to performing a full review of that chapter in a future issue. As for modifying the template, your suggestion may be a sensible one. However, I would not unilaterally apply template changes to the Base Guide - agreement would be needed from the Team to apply the change across all books. Maybe you could suggest this as a topic for discussion at a future Documentation Team meeting? Regards, Steve On 16/01/2022 11:15, flywire wrote: General comment on template. Figures are very crowded eg BG7305-Queries_SF_12Jan2022.odt Figure 2. Readability might be improved with more whitespace before/after figures, say 0.21cm padding. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base BG7302 - Chapter 2 - First Review
Hi Dev, Thank you for doing that. Based on your comments in an earlier email, would I be correct to assume that you performed the review using an Ubuntu system? It may take me a while to catch up with the comments raised on various chapters and so I have placed a note in the tracking spreadsheet to request that nobody starts a 2nd review of chapters 1 and 2 at the moment. Regards, Steve On 18/01/2022 08:35, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking-in BG7302 - Chapter 2 after first review. Thank you -Dev On 17/01/22 12:13 pm, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking out BG7302 - Chapter 2 for first review. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6
Hello everybody, I have placed two updated files in the relevant NextCloud folder: * BG7305-Queries_SF_12Jan2022.odt * BG7306-Reports_SF_14Jan2022.odt These two files are now in the 7.3 template, include captions for figures and tables, and have a little less negativity in the text (e.g., less use of the word "unfortunately"; etc). Chapters 5 and 6 are not scheduled for significant updates at this issue. Please could somebody review the figure / table captions, and any other tracked changes in these two to make sure I haven’t done anything stupid? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base v7.3: Chapter 1 - BG7301
Hi Dev, Many thanks for returning your comments on Chapter 1. I will address all of the comments that I have received on the latest draft of this chapter in the next few days. Regards, Steve On 08/01/2022 14:08, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking out Base v7.3 BG7301 Chapter 1 for first review. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - sample databases provided with the book
Hi Robert, I don't believe that there is a problem. We are just making sure that the two databases that we've updated (for the new Chapter 1 screenshots etc) are properly controlled. I will liaise with him and let you know if any assistance is needed. Regards, Steve On 10/01/2022 19:38, Robert Großkopf wrote: Hi *, I am uploading the updated version of "Media_without_Macros.odb" database file. I have addressed Task#1 and Task#5. After looking at the database file, I understood you have taken care of #2, #3, #4 tasks. Thank you for that. Du I understand it right? You wan't to correct the database like task 2, 3 and 4 but don't know how? Where have you uploaded the database? I will have a look at this problem. Regards Robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base v7.3: Chapter 1 - BG7301
Hello everyone, While updating Chapter 1, I created bespoke versions of the Media_without_Macros and Example_Sport databases to support the generation of new, "anglicized" images. The ODB files for these two updated databases are in an obviously-named subfolder of the Work in Progress folder. Regards, Steve On 08/01/2022 14:08, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking out Base v7.3 BG7301 Chapter 1 for first review. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - Current status of chapters 2, 3 and 4
Hello everybody, I have placed three updated files in the relevant NextCloud folder: * BG7302-CreatingADatabase_SF_10Jan2022.odt * BG7303-Tables_SF_10Jan2022.odt * BG7304-Forms_SF_10Jan2022.odt All three files are now in the 7.3 template, include captions for all significant figures/tables, and have a little less negativity (e.g., minimal use of the word "unfortunately"; removal of references to bugs that have been fixed; etc). I use the word “significant” in the previous sentence because Chapter 4 contains many small images of single fields within properties dialogs which I have retained for now as we are not planning a major overhaul of this chapter for 7.3. Chapter 2 is scheduled for a fuller review, revision, and tidy up at this update. Somebody will get around to that soon. Chapters 3 and 4 are not scheduled for significant updates at this issue. Please could somebody review the figure / table captions, and any other tracked changes in these two to make sure I haven’t done anything stupid? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base v7.3: Chapter 1 - BG7301
Hi Dev, I think the tracking spreadsheet already showed you having checked the document out? Not a problem, just a misunderstanding - probably arising from your recent email problem. Regards, Steve On 08/01/2022 14:08, Vasudev Narayanan wrote: Greetings - I am checking out Base v7.3 BG7301 Chapter 1 for first review. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide; updated Chapter 1 (Introducing Base) ready for review
Hi, After some months without any activity on the (English Language) Base Guide, I recently volunteered to try to help move it forward. Therefore, I am probably considered to be the current editor of the document. As far as I know, the only other person working on the document is Vasudev Narayanan (also known as Dev), who got in touch to offer his assistance. Any other help is always welcome. In the first instance I would suggest you contact Olivier Hallot through this email list. He is the LibreOffice Documentation Team Coordinator and is usually happy to guide new contributors through the onboarding process. Regards, Steve On 05/01/2022 09:58, flywire wrote: RE: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00022.html How can I get a slot to contribute to the document? Regards On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 8:14 PM Martin Srebotnjak wrote: I think it would be best to first get in touch with the editor of the document, he might have some arrangement with other reviewers standing in line (or not) so you can agree on the next steps and take out the chapters as they are ready. From then on it will be more automatic, I guess ... Lp, m. V V sre., 5. jan. 2022 ob 01:26 je oseba flywire napisala: Thanks Martin. Of course, I'm following https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation which has a fair amount of "(update in progress)". 1. So do need to request approval from the Main Editor to join or do I just add myself to the list for the doc/version? 2. I've used Google Docs before with concurrent users editing documents without any real problems. Do I have to wait for a current rewrite/review to be complete before I can propose changes? On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 10:54 AM Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > ...the proper process is to become a reviewer, to check out the chapter, > announce it on this list and write that down into the guide status document > (so that there are not conflicts of concurrent reviewing) and review the > file either by entering changes as tracked changes (if it is about typos or > not clear wording etc.) or adding comments to the text with remarks, > proposals for change etc. And checking it back in and announcing on the > list the chapter has returned... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide; updated Chapter 1 (Introducing Base) ready for review
Hello everybody, I have produced an updated version of the above chapter and it is ready for review (in Nextcloud). Dev has kindly volunteered to perform the Documentation Team's first review. The chapter has changed significantly since the previous version (see below). It would be very much appreciated if one of our Base experts could skim through the revised chapter just to check that I haven't introduced any errors into the text descriptions of what Base does. (I'm not sure a Base expert needs to read through all the user interface interactions - any problems there should be picked up during the Documentation Team's normal review cycles). Reasons why the chapter has changed significantly include (but may not be limited to): 1. I felt that we should provide a more coherent introduction for novice users, consistent with the guides for other LO components. In particular, answering some of the general queries about Base that I was initially unsure about and providing a brief overview of Base's user interface. 2. I didn't like some of the overly negative points about Base; surely their inclusion as previously worded wasn't a great marketing strategy. These have been toned down without hiding any specific problems that might be encountered. 3. There was a need to anglicize the text and figures and correct some of the confusions that may have arisen during the translation from German to English at an earlier issue. 4. Captions were needed for the many figures that previously had none. (All figures have been replaced with a consistent set captured on my Windows PC). Please also note: (a) The changes were not automatically tracked by Writer - there were far too many changes for this to be worthwhile or manageable. (b) So far I have made no effort to minimize wasted white space by moving figures around. In my opinion, this would be nugatory effort and should be carried out later in the publication process. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide
Hi Rob and Robert. Thanks for passing on your thoughts. There seem to be two issues here. 1. With regards to the figures throughout the Base Guide, any that I replace will be captured in a Windows environment. As often happens, the book will then contain figures from a mixture of environments but we can't do much about that in the short term. 2. With regards to the (text) instructions, then I will be working through the book following those instructions on my Windows computer. Where the instructions don't work on Windows, then I'll try and work out why there's a difference. If the answer is obvious then all well and good; if not, then I'll follow up with a mailing list question to seek guidance. Regards, Steve On 29/12/2021 07:02, Robert Großkopf wrote: Hi Rob, I have a comment on Chapter 2, Creating a Database: In the part on PostgreSQL some instructions is written to use PostgreSQL in Linux/OpenSUSE. As the majority of LibreOffice users are using Windows, should be there an instruction aimed at Windows users? Reason here: I am the author of most content of the original Base Handbuch (Germany). And I'm using OpenSUSE since 20 years. Couldn't test anything in Windows. Throughout the Guide Linux is used... (also in the figures). all manuals have Windows based figures, why not use windows figured here as well? Same reason as above. We had discussions here about screenshots and decided to create all screenshots in Linux with a special theme. We won't show the behavior of open source software with screenshots of closed source software. Could also be a special problems with the right to use this screenshots in a published book. Regards Robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - sample databases provided with the book
Hello everybody, Dev has very kindly volunteered to look at the sample databases that are publicly availably and used throughout the Base Guide (BG). While reviewing Chapter 1 of the BG I noticed a few problems with the "Media_without_Macros.odb" database as follows. Dev, would you be able to correct these issues in your “master” version? 1. The name of the Adress table is spelt incorrectly (should be Address). 2. The relationships (at Tools > Relationships) don’t appear to be complete. For example, the Recall table should have a link to the Loan table; the Gender, rel_Reader_Schoolclass, and Gender tables should be linked to the Reader table. 3. On the Loan form, should “current Loan” have an uppercase “C”? 4. On the Loan form, when a reader has overdue media, then the string “Loan temporary locked!” is appended to the blue string in the middle of the form. Should this read “Loan temporarily locked!”? 5. The Recall report would probably benefit from some wording changes to improve its use of English (I can provide more detailed comments if needed). 6. The content of the data in the tables should be anglicized where appropriate. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide
Hello everybody. During the past few weeks, I have become more familiar with Base and the Base Guide (BG). In summary, I feel that the content of the BG would benefit from some care and attention. This will be time consuming and should be considered as a long-term aim, not a short-term fix. I think we should adopt a phased approach to improving the document rather than trying to overhaul it all at once. I suggest that we try to create an update to be published as soon as possible after the release of LO 7.3. The following improvements would be worthwhile and should be achievable in that time frame: 1. Review and update Chapter 1, Introduction to Base, so that is better aligned with the guides for other LO components and provides more information aimed at novice users. (A draft update will be available for review in a few days) 2. Update two of the sample databases that are publicly available (Media_without_Macros.odb and Example_Sport.odb) so that they are consistent with the revised text of Chapter 1. 3. Review and update Chapter 2, Creating a Database (task includes refreshing and anglicizing figures where necessary, and checking correctness of text). I will work on this as soon as I’ve completed the Chapter 1 update. 4. Update all other chapters to add captions to the many figures that do not currently have them. 5. Update all other chapters to remove any unnecessary negativity about the software product. Does the above sound reasonable for the first step in a phased update plan? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Request for Asset Files For Calc Guide 7.2 Screenshots
Hi Kevin, You should be able to find most of the relevant spreadsheet files in Nextcloud. * Step 1 - go to the folder LibreOffice Documentation > English > Archives > Calc Guides. * Step 2 - download the file Calc Guide 6.4.zip. * Step 3 - unzip the file Calc Guide 6.4.zip. * Step 4 - navigate to the Archive folder within the unzipped files. * Step 5 - identify the two zip files whose names indicate that they contain spreadsheets and unzip as required. If you need anything else, please get back to me. Regards, Steve Fanning On 10/12/2021 07:09, Kevin Suo wrote: Dear Documentation Team: Our Simplified Chinese team is translating the Calc Guide 7.2. We noted that there are some screenshots in the Calc Guide 7.2 which may have been prepared using some sort of source data (e.g. Figure 24). We also want to translate those screenshots in our version. Would you please share with us the asset files you have used, if any, so that we can save some time in our side? Thanks in advance. Kevin Suo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.2 Base Guide
Hi Olivier, Thanks for updating the website. I noticed the lack of captions on many figures and some other issues. However fixing these will take a little time and so we'll do it in a later issue. Regards, Steve On 07/12/2021 17:40, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Steve, all I published the available PDF to the documentation website (1). Browsing the source file I noticed that many figures have no caption. They are displayed interleaved with the text. Shall we "fix" that for the Base Guide 7.3? Regards Olivier (1) https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/ Em 07/12/2021 07:58, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hello everybody. The "cosmetic" update to the Base Guide for 7.2 is now finished. All ODT and PDF files are in NextCloud, and available via the Publications page of our wiki (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications). Olivier, please could you make the files available via the website? Thanks to those who helped in completing the document, especially Jean for reviewing the Preface and inspecting the compiled book. I intend working to further improve the document for a future issue. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.2 Base Guide
Hello everybody. The "cosmetic" update to the Base Guide for 7.2 is now finished. All ODT and PDF files are in NextCloud, and available via the Publications page of our wiki (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications). Olivier, please could you make the files available via the website? Thanks to those who helped in completing the document, especially Jean for reviewing the Preface and inspecting the compiled book. I intend working to further improve the document for a future issue. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface
Hello All, I have compiled the 7.2 Base Guide into one ODT file, and generated the PDF for the book. All files are in the Published folder in NextCloud. All is ready for final checking before publication and hopefully Jean will still have time available to look at this. Regards, Steve On 05/12/2021 13:44, Steve Fanning wrote: Hello everybody. I have moved the ODT and PDF files for all chapters of the 7.2 Base Guide to the Published folder. Next I will collate the full book. Regards, Steve On 04/12/2021 11:24, Jean Weber wrote: Hi Steve, Yes, I expect to have time to check the compiled book when it’s ready. Jean On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 at 20:32 Steve Fanning wrote: Hi Jean, Thank you for that review - I have accepted all your suggestions. With regards to your question about the description of how the software behaves when the offline help isn't installed, I have reverted the description to match that in the other books. I will now take a little time to check layouts of each chapter, generate chapter PDFs and compile the book. Would you be prepared to cast your eye over the compiled book when I am finished? Regards, Steve On 03/12/2021 23:43, Jean Weber wrote: Steve, I have checked, commented, and returned the Preface with a new filename and updated the status spreadsheet. Only minor suggestions, plus one question. Jean On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:50 PM Jean Weber wrote: I’ll do it. -Jean On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 20:04 Steve Fanning wrote: Hi All, Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for Base Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has lots of boilerplate material common to all guides. It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface
Hello everybody. I have moved the ODT and PDF files for all chapters of the 7.2 Base Guide to the Published folder. Next I will collate the full book. Regards, Steve On 04/12/2021 11:24, Jean Weber wrote: Hi Steve, Yes, I expect to have time to check the compiled book when it’s ready. Jean On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 at 20:32 Steve Fanning wrote: Hi Jean, Thank you for that review - I have accepted all your suggestions. With regards to your question about the description of how the software behaves when the offline help isn't installed, I have reverted the description to match that in the other books. I will now take a little time to check layouts of each chapter, generate chapter PDFs and compile the book. Would you be prepared to cast your eye over the compiled book when I am finished? Regards, Steve On 03/12/2021 23:43, Jean Weber wrote: Steve, I have checked, commented, and returned the Preface with a new filename and updated the status spreadsheet. Only minor suggestions, plus one question. Jean On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:50 PM Jean Weber wrote: I’ll do it. -Jean On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 20:04 Steve Fanning wrote: Hi All, Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for Base Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has lots of boilerplate material common to all guides. It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface
Hi Jean, Thank you for that review - I have accepted all your suggestions. With regards to your question about the description of how the software behaves when the offline help isn't installed, I have reverted the description to match that in the other books. I will now take a little time to check layouts of each chapter, generate chapter PDFs and compile the book. Would you be prepared to cast your eye over the compiled book when I am finished? Regards, Steve On 03/12/2021 23:43, Jean Weber wrote: Steve, I have checked, commented, and returned the Preface with a new filename and updated the status spreadsheet. Only minor suggestions, plus one question. Jean On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:50 PM Jean Weber wrote: I’ll do it. -Jean On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 20:04 Steve Fanning wrote: Hi All, Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for Base Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has lots of boilerplate material common to all guides. It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Thoughts on the Base Guide
Hi Olivier, Thanks for that, and for producing the book covers. I will check all chapters for unnecessary tab characters and remove them before publication of the 7.2 Base Guide. Regards, Steve On 03/12/2021 12:07, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Steve I also agree with your remarks. Regards Olivier PS: - Book covers are already done - some SQL listings and macros have tab characters for code indentation in the book. It is advisable to replace them with spaces. Em 02/12/2021 18:29, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hello All, Thanks for the feedback received about how to progress the Base Guide. Based on my current understanding of its status, I would like to make the following two suggestions: (1) That we issue a 7.2 Base Guide within the next few days. I’m happy to collate the book based on the existing 6.4 chapters (but within a 7.2 style template), apart from the Preface. My suggestion is to update the Preface so that: a) It does not have a statement explaining that the Firebird implementation within Base is “full of bugs” on its first page, and b) It has a greater level of consistency with the prefaces to other LibreOffice guides, and c) It includes a statement that there are no significant changes from 6.4. In my opinion, the fact that there is no significant software change since 6.4 justifies this approach and, if there is no dissent, then I can create this book rapidly. (2) That we look to implement a relatively significant update to the Base Guide to coincide with a later build of software. This may involve restructuring and other changes, as have been identified in emails on this list during the past few days. I would be happy to start work on this and coordinate the production of such an update. The reviewing work that has been done so far (primarily by Felipe and Dev) will be extremely useful for improving the material in this book. Many thanks to them for that work. It might be worth pausing the review of the Base Guide chapters while we gather our thoughts on what should be done to the document. Ideas can be exchanged through this email list, or via the Documentation Team meetings. Please let me know if anybody is unhappy with this outline approach or would like to suggest something different. Regards, Steve On 02/12/2021 01:41, Felipe Viggiano de Souza wrote: Hello Steve, Just uploaded a first review of the BG7002 and checked out the BG7204. Since I do not have any experience in the LO Base, I have just made some superficial suggestions. About your considerations: i. There were some reference to bugs and a lot of pictures without caption. ii. As far as I could tell, the features are pretty much the same for this chapter, didn't notice some significant change (I'm referring only to the GUI, can't say much for the code presented). Are we planning to deliver the Base Guide still in 2021? Asking this because, if not I think we could use some second reviews on these documents. Best regards, Felipe Viggiano Em 29/11/2021 08:20, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hi Team, During the past few days, I have spent some time looking at the 6.4 Base Guide as we begin to review and update it. Unfortunately, if we are to improve the quality of the book then the task may involve significantly more effort and time than we at first anticipated. This conclusion has been drawn based on my work to date and is a result of the following main factors: * Previous emails have noted that the document would benefit from a refresh of the figures. What I hadn’t considered was that the “user data” within many of the figures is based on German examples, which isn’t ideal for an English language document. I have also found that the structure of the example “Media_without_Macros” database doesn’t quite match the figures in Chapter 3 (Tables). Hence there is additional effort needed to re-work some of the underlying sample databases to review their structure and include English data. * When reviewing the early sections of Chapter 3 (Tables), I was surprised by the level of change necessary to get the detail correct for 7.2. We can only assume that this is also the case in other chapters (maybe Felipe and Dev could comment on whether Chapters 1 and 2 follow this trend). * I was a little shocked when I found out how many bugs are explicitly referenced in the text, with links to Bugzilla, and this feels like it could be a marketing disaster. Just to give an idea of the scope of this problem, I found specific references to the following bugs within the text 46180, 51452, 51453, 51959, 53027, 61871, 73707, 80320, 82411, 82591, 87290. Also, statements like “Firebird engine is very good, it is its implementation in base which is full of bugs” and “The Report Builder is somewhat treacherous in use, as certain functions are available in theory but don’t work in practice” may be true
[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface
Hi All, Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for Base Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has lots of boilerplate material common to all guides. It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Thoughts on the Base Guide
Hello All, Thanks for the feedback received about how to progress the Base Guide. Based on my current understanding of its status, I would like to make the following two suggestions: (1) That we issue a 7.2 Base Guide within the next few days. I’m happy to collate the book based on the existing 6.4 chapters (but within a 7.2 style template), apart from the Preface. My suggestion is to update the Preface so that: a) It does not have a statement explaining that the Firebird implementation within Base is “full of bugs” on its first page, and b) It has a greater level of consistency with the prefaces to other LibreOffice guides, and c) It includes a statement that there are no significant changes from 6.4. In my opinion, the fact that there is no significant software change since 6.4 justifies this approach and, if there is no dissent, then I can create this book rapidly. (2) That we look to implement a relatively significant update to the Base Guide to coincide with a later build of software. This may involve restructuring and other changes, as have been identified in emails on this list during the past few days. I would be happy to start work on this and coordinate the production of such an update. The reviewing work that has been done so far (primarily by Felipe and Dev) will be extremely useful for improving the material in this book. Many thanks to them for that work. It might be worth pausing the review of the Base Guide chapters while we gather our thoughts on what should be done to the document. Ideas can be exchanged through this email list, or via the Documentation Team meetings. Please let me know if anybody is unhappy with this outline approach or would like to suggest something different. Regards, Steve On 02/12/2021 01:41, Felipe Viggiano de Souza wrote: Hello Steve, Just uploaded a first review of the BG7002 and checked out the BG7204. Since I do not have any experience in the LO Base, I have just made some superficial suggestions. About your considerations: i. There were some reference to bugs and a lot of pictures without caption. ii. As far as I could tell, the features are pretty much the same for this chapter, didn't notice some significant change (I'm referring only to the GUI, can't say much for the code presented). Are we planning to deliver the Base Guide still in 2021? Asking this because, if not I think we could use some second reviews on these documents. Best regards, Felipe Viggiano Em 29/11/2021 08:20, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hi Team, During the past few days, I have spent some time looking at the 6.4 Base Guide as we begin to review and update it. Unfortunately, if we are to improve the quality of the book then the task may involve significantly more effort and time than we at first anticipated. This conclusion has been drawn based on my work to date and is a result of the following main factors: * Previous emails have noted that the document would benefit from a refresh of the figures. What I hadn’t considered was that the “user data” within many of the figures is based on German examples, which isn’t ideal for an English language document. I have also found that the structure of the example “Media_without_Macros” database doesn’t quite match the figures in Chapter 3 (Tables). Hence there is additional effort needed to re-work some of the underlying sample databases to review their structure and include English data. * When reviewing the early sections of Chapter 3 (Tables), I was surprised by the level of change necessary to get the detail correct for 7.2. We can only assume that this is also the case in other chapters (maybe Felipe and Dev could comment on whether Chapters 1 and 2 follow this trend). * I was a little shocked when I found out how many bugs are explicitly referenced in the text, with links to Bugzilla, and this feels like it could be a marketing disaster. Just to give an idea of the scope of this problem, I found specific references to the following bugs within the text 46180, 51452, 51453, 51959, 53027, 61871, 73707, 80320, 82411, 82591, 87290. Also, statements like “Firebird engine is very good, it is its implementation in base which is full of bugs” and “The Report Builder is somewhat treacherous in use, as certain functions are available in theory but don’t work in practice” may be true but don’t create a great impression. * Discussion in the mailing list has indicated that we should update the technical content of the document in a few areas (e.g., comparison of HSQLDB and Firebird; "Auto Grow" feature in reports; changes to Writer and maybe Calc may affect discussions of the interaction between Base and other LO components). * Previous authors and editors believed that the document should be re-structured (see for example https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/D
[libreoffice-documentation] Thoughts on the Base Guide
Hi Team, During the past few days, I have spent some time looking at the 6.4 Base Guide as we begin to review and update it. Unfortunately, if we are to improve the quality of the book then the task may involve significantly more effort and time than we at first anticipated. This conclusion has been drawn based on my work to date and is a result of the following main factors: * Previous emails have noted that the document would benefit from a refresh of the figures. What I hadn’t considered was that the “user data” within many of the figures is based on German examples, which isn’t ideal for an English language document. I have also found that the structure of the example “Media_without_Macros” database doesn’t quite match the figures in Chapter 3 (Tables). Hence there is additional effort needed to re-work some of the underlying sample databases to review their structure and include English data. * When reviewing the early sections of Chapter 3 (Tables), I was surprised by the level of change necessary to get the detail correct for 7.2. We can only assume that this is also the case in other chapters (maybe Felipe and Dev could comment on whether Chapters 1 and 2 follow this trend). * I was a little shocked when I found out how many bugs are explicitly referenced in the text, with links to Bugzilla, and this feels like it could be a marketing disaster. Just to give an idea of the scope of this problem, I found specific references to the following bugs within the text 46180, 51452, 51453, 51959, 53027, 61871, 73707, 80320, 82411, 82591, 87290. Also, statements like “Firebird engine is very good, it is its implementation in base which is full of bugs” and “The Report Builder is somewhat treacherous in use, as certain functions are available in theory but don’t work in practice” may be true but don’t create a great impression. * Discussion in the mailing list has indicated that we should update the technical content of the document in a few areas (e.g., comparison of HSQLDB and Firebird; "Auto Grow" feature in reports; changes to Writer and maybe Calc may affect discussions of the interaction between Base and other LO components). * Previous authors and editors believed that the document should be re-structured (see for example https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/User_Guide_Tasks#Base_Guide). I don’t think that all the above can be addressed quickly. Therefore, to make rapid progress (and complete the set of 7.2 guides), should we issue the 7.2 Base Guide simply as a cosmetic update to the 6.4 version? The ODT files have already been updated to the LO7 style and the 7.2 book covers are available. With no substantial change then there should be little reviewing required. However, I have already prepared an updated Preface and it might be worth including that. Meanwhile we can continue reviewing/improving the material in preparation for a future update. All views would be very welcome. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.2 Base Guide - Preface
Hi Team, I have updated BG7200 (Preface) and returned it to the Work in Progress folder for review. Please note however that the section entitled "What’s new in LibreOffice Base 7.2 Community?" will require further last minute additions once we understand what is changing in the book's other chapters. I have checked out Chapter 3 (Tables) for update. I plan to re-generate figures for all chapters in parallel with reviewing/updating this specific chapter (hence the generous expected return date). I have updated the Base Guide tracking spreadsheet. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base - BG7201 - Chapter 1 for Updating
Thanks Dev. Don't worry about quoting a tentative return date; we are all volunteers and do things when we can. Regards, Steve On 24/11/2021 04:43, vasudev.naraya...@aol.com wrote: Greetings - I am checking out Chapter 1 for updating. The return date is tentative. I have updated the status tracking sheet. Thank you -Dev -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide
Hello Team, Many thanks for the offers of help with updating the Base Guide to LO 7.2. I have created the folder structure in NextCloud, included a tracking spreadsheet, applied the LO 7 template to all ODT files, and placed those files in the Work in Progress folder. I have also checked out BG7200 Preface to update it. Meanwhile Jean is proposing some updates to Chapter 7 and so others would be better avoiding that chapter for the moment. The task could take a long time if one person updates all chapters, and it would be helpful if others could select chapters for which they can perform the update. Since the software hasn’t changed much since the 6.4 Base Guide was published, this shouldn’t be more complicated than your normal review activities (e.g. does the software accurately describe what Base does; does the text make sense; etc). Please consider doing some updates! One systematic problem I have noticed is that the figures need some work throughout the document. Some appear to have been edited with photo editing software and many don’t have captions. I will regenerate a complete set of figures for the document and insert them into the chapters later – doing it that way will ensure a consistent appearance. However, please could those updating chapters add captions where they are missing. I will review all updates and comments, as I have when updating the Calc Guide. Good luck to all! Regards, Steve On 22/11/2021 08:16, Steve Fanning wrote: Hello everybody. All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if this assumption is wrong. As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose to start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3 (depending how long the update takes). I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can read the document and check its text and figures against the software. I expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release notes list only a few changes. If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us know via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome! Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide
Hi Robert, Thanks for that and apologies for my daft questions (I'm not always aware of the history of the project). I'll give some more thought to improving this area in the (English) Base Guide, although I probably won't be able to do much during this iteration. I do, however, believe passionately that we should not be using the guides to highlight implementation problems, bugs, and instability! Translating German materials doesn't sound a great idea for me - it would be too big a step for my schoolboy German (even with the help of Google Translate). Based on what you've read in the German "Base Handbuch", are there any particular areas that we might be able to improve in the Base Guide by extracting information from the Firebird 3.0 documentation (https://firebirdsql.org/en/reference-manuals/)? Regards, Steve On 22/11/2021 20:15, Robert Großkopf wrote: Hi Steve, creating a new internal Firebird database has been set to experimental. Using the created Firebird database isn't experimental. So there are many people, who had created such a database (thinking HSQLDB will be deprecated) and won't notice any difference to versions before LO 6.4.3. We need a description of Firebird for this people, but having a look at the English Guide there is not much description for Firebird. Only an Appendix B, which shows the difference betwenn HSQLDB and Firebird. German "Base Handbuch" contains many more descrition about Firebird, but another translation form German to English won't be a good idea. Regards Robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide
Hello everybody, In my experience so far working within the Documentation Team, we don't tend to describe experimental features within the guides.Therefore, given its current status, would I be better off removing discussion of the internal Firebird engine from the 7.2 Base Guide? This would avoid references to a "large number of bugs", "instability" and warnings to "be extremely careful here". These don't read well when trying to convince users that LO is a quality product. The material could easily be re-instated later, if and when Firebird is promoted from experimental to operational. Any opinions please? Regards, Steve On 22/11/2021 09:22, Robert Großkopf wrote: Hi Steve, there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird dabase when "experimental features" are choosen. Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing. Regards Robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide
Hello everybody. All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if this assumption is wrong. As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose to start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3 (depending how long the update takes). I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can read the document and check its text and figures against the software. I expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release notes list only a few changes. If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us know via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome! Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: 7.2 Calc Guide
Hello everybody. The 7.2 Calc Guide is now finished. All ODT and PDF files are in NextCloud, and available via the Publications page of our wiki (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications). Olivier, please could you make the files available via the website? Thanks for everybody's help in completing the document. Regards, Steve On 21/11/2021 09:46, Steve Fanning wrote: Hi Jean, Many thanks for checking the document. I will update the copyright URLs within the chapter files in the next few hours and we'll be ready to go. Regards, Steve On 21/11/2021 01:20, Jean Weber wrote: Steve, In the copyright statement, the URLs should be https: not http: The back cover image should be behind the text box, not in front. I did not find anything else. I have amended the book ODT, regenerated the PDF, and uploaded them to NextCloud. IMO the book is ready for publication. I have not changed the copyright URLs in the chapter files, but you or Olivier may wish to do so. Jean On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:44 AM Jean Weber wrote: Steve, Yes, I’ll do that today. Jean On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 03:27 Steve Fanning wrote: Hello All, I have generated the PDFs for the individual chapters, compiled the book into one ODT file, and generated the PDF for the book. All files are in the Published folder in NextCloud. All is ready for final checking before publication. Jean, have to still got time available to look at this? Regards, Steve On 15/11/2021 20:10, Steve Fanning wrote: Hello All, I have completed work on the individual chapters of the 7.2 Calc Guide and returned the ODT files to the Published folder in NextCloud. Would any member of the localization community be able to run these files through their tools before I compile the book, to make sure that there are no translation-related problems buried within? If so, thanks in advance. I will wait a day or two before compiling the book and generating the various PDFs. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: 7.2 Calc Guide
Hi Jean, Many thanks for checking the document. I will update the copyright URLs within the chapter files in the next few hours and we'll be ready to go. Regards, Steve On 21/11/2021 01:20, Jean Weber wrote: Steve, In the copyright statement, the URLs should be https: not http: The back cover image should be behind the text box, not in front. I did not find anything else. I have amended the book ODT, regenerated the PDF, and uploaded them to NextCloud. IMO the book is ready for publication. I have not changed the copyright URLs in the chapter files, but you or Olivier may wish to do so. Jean On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:44 AM Jean Weber wrote: Steve, Yes, I’ll do that today. Jean On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 03:27 Steve Fanning wrote: Hello All, I have generated the PDFs for the individual chapters, compiled the book into one ODT file, and generated the PDF for the book. All files are in the Published folder in NextCloud. All is ready for final checking before publication. Jean, have to still got time available to look at this? Regards, Steve On 15/11/2021 20:10, Steve Fanning wrote: Hello All, I have completed work on the individual chapters of the 7.2 Calc Guide and returned the ODT files to the Published folder in NextCloud. Would any member of the localization community be able to run these files through their tools before I compile the book, to make sure that there are no translation-related problems buried within? If so, thanks in advance. I will wait a day or two before compiling the book and generating the various PDFs. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: 7.2 Calc Guide
Hello All, I have generated the PDFs for the individual chapters, compiled the book into one ODT file, and generated the PDF for the book. All files are in the Published folder in NextCloud. All is ready for final checking before publication. Jean, have to still got time available to look at this? Regards, Steve On 15/11/2021 20:10, Steve Fanning wrote: Hello All, I have completed work on the individual chapters of the 7.2 Calc Guide and returned the ODT files to the Published folder in NextCloud. Would any member of the localization community be able to run these files through their tools before I compile the book, to make sure that there are no translation-related problems buried within? If so, thanks in advance. I will wait a day or two before compiling the book and generating the various PDFs. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] 7.2 Calc Guide
Hello All, I have completed work on the individual chapters of the 7.2 Calc Guide and returned the ODT files to the Published folder in NextCloud. Would any member of the localization community be able to run these files through their tools before I compile the book, to make sure that there are no translation-related problems buried within? If so, thanks in advance. I will wait a day or two before compiling the book and generating the various PDFs. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Front and back pages for 7.2 Calc Guide
Hi Olivier, Thank you, I wasn't aware of that folder. Regards, Steve On 10/11/2021 20:38, Olivier Hallot wrote: Actually I think me or someone else already did the covers. LibreOffice Documentation/English/Contributor Resources/Cover7.2/Calc/ Regards Olivier Em 10/11/2021 17:16, Olivier Hallot escreveu: Hi Steve Inskscape is the software used. https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.1.1/ Regards Olivier Em 10/11/2021 16:58, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hi All, What is our preferred method for generating front and back sheets for an updated guide, with the correct software issue number on them? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Front and back pages for 7.2 Calc Guide
Hi All, What is our preferred method for generating front and back sheets for an updated guide, with the correct software issue number on them? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Publishing Calc and Impress Guides
Jean, Many thanks for the kind offer, which I will take you up on next week sometime. Regards, Steve On 08/11/2021 20:04, Jean Weber wrote: Hi Steve and Peter, When you have compiled the books, I am happy to check them for formatting errors before you publish them. I can either fix any errors or provide a list so you can fix them; your choice. I will be checking the files anyway, before creating the printed copies and publishing on Lulu. Regards, Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Using master documents
Hi Olivier, Please could you advise the status of Writer’s master document facility with respect to using it when publishing our guides? When I publish the 7.2 Calc Guide would you recommend using a master document, or shall I just create one big document by hand? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First review of CG7208 / Check out IG7214
Hi Felipe, Thanks for the comments on CG7208, which I have accepted. I have returned the updated file to the Work in Progress folder. Regards, Steve On 05/11/2021 02:45, Felipe Viggiano de Souza wrote: Hello everyone, I have uploaded the first review of the CG7208 - Pivot Tables and checked out the IG7214 - Toolbars for a first review. The /Calc Guide Status CG72.ods/ and the /Impress Guide 7-2 Status.ods/ were updated. Best regards, Felipe Viggiano -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Second review of CG7215-User Interface Variants
Thanks Kees. I accepted your first suggestion to improve wording. I preferred not to implement the comment on the Print tab (Figure 43). I agree that this tab is sparsely populated and so its figure could be compressed. However, the screenshots for all tabs were grabbed from a screen set to a constant pixel resolution, leaving the figures for all tabs to be a consistent size, split in two at approximately the same position. I felt compressing the Print tab might save a little whitespace but at the cost of consistency. I hope that's okay with you. I have returned the updated chapter to the Work in Progress folder. Regards, Steve On 02/11/2021 09:13, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: I have given CG7215-User Interface Variants a second review. Did not find any errors, but added two suggestions. Regards, Kees -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First Review of CG7216
Hi Team, Many thanks to Rafael for his comments on this chapter. Also thanks to Mike and Martin for their help resolving a couple of macOS-related queries. I have updated the chapter, accepting the proposed changes. I also spotted some further references to 7.1, which I have removed. I have included today's date in the filename and returned the chapter to the Work in Progress folder. Regards, Steve On 01/11/2021 12:56, Rafael Lima wrote: Hi Team! I have just uploaded my first review of chapter CG7216. The file is in the WIP folder. I added a new shortcut and made a few comments for consideration. Steve, now all chapters have either been reviewed or are under review. Will a second review be needed for all chapters? Regards, Rafael Lima -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Calc on macOS
Hi Team, Please could somebody who uses LO on macOS check two Calc shortcuts for me using a _7.2_ build? The items in question: 1. On Windows, the *Insert > Object > Formula Object* option in the Menu bar identifies a shortcut for the interaction (that is, Ctrl+Alt+=). Is there a corresponding shortcut identified on the macOS variant and, if so, what is it? 2. On Windows, the *Help > Search Commands* option in the Menu bar identifies a shortcut for the interaction (that is, Shift+Esc). Is there a corresponding shortcut identified on the macOS variant and, if so, what is it? Thanks in advance. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First Review of CG7216
Hi All, With regards to the overall need for a second review of the book, I feel that most of the chapters probably don’t warrant further review. However, given that I implemented the changes to all chapters of this update, then I guess you might expect me to think that! I would prefer Chapter 15 (User Interface Variants) to be reviewed a second time if that is possible. This is a new chapter for the Calc Guide and hence doesn’t have the review history of the other chapters. Other than that, the review comments that we’ve processed during first review don’t seem to indicate any underlying problem with any established chapter. This leads me to think it not worth spending people’s time reviewing any of them again. Can I suggest the following way ahead? 1. Please would somebody perform a second review of Chapter 15? 2. Let’s aim to start the publication process on Saturday next week (2021-11-12). If anybody feels an urge to review any other chapters further, then feel free to do so before then. Does this sound okay or does anybody feel strongly that more reviewing time is needed? If nobody expresses any reasonable objections, then I’ll go ahead with the above. Regards, Steve On 01/11/2021 12:56, Rafael Lima wrote: Hi Team! I have just uploaded my first review of chapter CG7216. The file is in the WIP folder. I added a new shortcut and made a few comments for consideration. Steve, now all chapters have either been reviewed or are under review. Will a second review be needed for all chapters? Regards, Rafael Lima -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First review of CG7212 / Checking out CG7216
Hi Rafael, Many thanks for the comments on Chapter 12. I agree that using Andrew Pitonyak’s extension has improved the appearance of the macro code listings (I assume that we are happy to put up with the various styles that this extension introduces). I have updated the chapter, accepting the proposed changes with only a couple of minor typographical adjustments. The only comment I ignored at this stage was that relating to re-sizing Figure 12 in order to fit it on the previous page - I plan to do this type of change at the end of the reviews, just prior to publication. I have included today's date in the filename and returned the chapter to the Work in Progress folder, ready for a second review. Regards, Steve On 29/10/2021 14:46, Rafael Lima wrote: Hi all! I finished the first review of CG7212 on Macros. The file is in the WIP folder. Steve, I made a few changes and suggestions in the file. Most notably, I formatted the Basic code using Andrew Pitonyak's code formatter extension, which was also used in the GS guide. So now both chapters have the same code formatting. I am now checking out CG7216 for a first review. Regards, Rafael Lima -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First Review of CG7213 / Checking out CG7212
Thanks Rafael. I've accepted the changes and addressed the comments. The file is back in the Work in Progress folder, with today's date in the file name. The chapter is ready for second review. Regards, Steve On 26/10/2021 18:06, Rafael Lima wrote: Hi Team! I have finished my first review of CG7213. The file is in the WIP folder. As usual, I made a few comments and added a few things to the file. Steve, feel free to accept them in the final edit. I am now checking out CG7212 to give it a first review. Regards, Rafael Lima -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First review of CG7214-Setting Up and Customizing
Hi Kees, Many thanks for your review and comments. I have accepted your proposed changes. The updated file is in the Work in Progress folder, ready for a second review. Regards, Steve On 24/10/2021 08:39, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: I have given CG7214-Setting Up and Customizing a first review. Kees -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 ch. 7
Hi Rachel, Apologies but I forgot to respond to one of your comments on the draft version of Chapter 7. The comment in question related to why the description of the reference intersection operator is perhaps a little more detailed than that of the reference concatenation operator. I think this difference is a result of the subjective opinions of previous authors and reviewers (including me) who considered that the reference intersection operator could prove a little more difficult to understand. Hence the inclusion of an illustration and extra examples. I am not aware of any user-based metrics that would suggest that one of the operators is likely to be used more often than the other. I didn’t update either sub-section to address this comment and I hope that is okay with you. Regards, Steve Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 ch. 7 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 11:22:11 +0100 From: Steve Fanning To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Thanks Rachel. Comments actioned and updated file (with today's date in its name) returned to Work in Progress folder. It is ready for second review. Regards, Steve On 22/10/2021 18:15, rachel kartch wrote: Hello all-- I've completed first review of CG7207 and uploaded it to the WIP folder. Steve, same issue as with trying to move the previous version of CG7205 to the Archive, another file of the same name already existed, so I added a "-2" to this one as well. Hope to be able to grab another chapter some time next week! Rachel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - Chapter 3
Hi Felipe, Many thanks for the comments on Chapter 3. I have updated the chapter, accepting the proposed changes with only a couple of minor wording adjustments. I have included today's date in the filename and returned the chapter to the Work in Progress folder, ready for a second review. Matters arising: 1. With regards to the options available in the Select Chart Element menu, I agree that “Chart Wall” only seems to appear for 3D charts. However, you can access the Chart Wall dialog by double-clicking on the appropriate part of a 2D chart. If you feel strongly that there is an undesirable inconsistency in the software, then perhaps you could raise a bug? 2. Regarding the Adapt options on the Position and Size tab of the dialog with the same name, I could not make them available for a chart and so have changed that section to state that they are always unavailable for charts. They can be made available if you insert a text box and access its Position and Size dialog which may be interesting background information but isn’t relevant to charts. 3. I agree that the default pivot point on the Rotation tab of the Position and Size dialog seems to be top left for a 7.2 software build. Regards, Steve On 15/10/2021 16:47, Felipe Viggiano de Souza wrote: Hello everyone, I have checked out the Chapter 3 from Calc Guide 7.2. Expecting to return it by 22 October. I've been away for a while, so, is there any changes in the workflow or in the guides itself that I should pay attention to? Best regards, Felipe Viggiano -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 ch. 7
Thanks Rachel. Comments actioned and updated file (with today's date in its name) returned to Work in Progress folder. It is ready for second review. Regards, Steve On 22/10/2021 18:15, rachel kartch wrote: Hello all-- I've completed first review of CG7207 and uploaded it to the WIP folder. Steve, same issue as with trying to move the previous version of CG7205 to the Archive, another file of the same name already existed, so I added a "-2" to this one as well. Hope to be able to grab another chapter some time next week! Rachel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - Chapters 6 and 13
Thanks Rafael. I have actioned your comments on Chapter 6 and the updated file (with today's date in its name) has been returned to the Work in Progress folder. It is ready for second review. Regards, Steve On 22/10/2021 15:35, Rafael Lima wrote: Hi Team! I have finished reviewing Chapter 6 of the Calc guide. It is in the WIP folder. Steve, I left a few comments in the file for you to consider. I am now checking out Chapter 13 "Calc as a Database" for a first review. Regards, Rafael Lima -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] CG7205 and CG7207
Thanks Rachel. No problem with your actions when placing the previous file into the Archive folder. I have accepted changes and Chapter 5 is ready for a second review. Regards, Steve On 21/10/2021 17:06, rachel kartch wrote: Hello all-- I've returned CG7205 from first review and uploaded to the WIP folder. When I tried to move the previous version of the file from WIP to the archive, I ran into an error because another file of the same name already existed in that folder. I added a "-2" to the end of the name of the file I was trying to move in order to proceed. Possibly they are the exact same file but I decided to err on the side of not discarding either of them until confirming this! I've checked out CG7207 and should have it reviewed and returned tomorrow. Rachel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First review of CG7211-Sharing and Reviewing
Thanks Kees. I have accepted changes and the document is now ready for a second review. Regards, Steve On 21/10/2021 08:18, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: I have given CG7211-Sharing and Reviewing a first review. Kees -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 reviews - Useful spreadsheets
Hi All, I have been asked about the availability of the spreadsheets that were used to generate examples in the Calc Guide. It is felt that access to these spreadsheets may be helpful to some reviewers. I have create a folder "Useful spreadsheets" within the "Work in Progress" folder. In that folder you will find a ZIP file containing many of these spreadsheets and I hope that they are useful. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - Chapter 6
Hi Rafael, That's fine. At some point Olivier updated the files to better support their migration to HTML etc. These updates were later withdrawn when the changes were found to have adverse affects on translation. Hence the files in the Archive folder that include Olivier's initials are to be ignored. Thanks again. Regards, Steve On 19/10/2021 19:40, Rafael Lima wrote: Hi Steve, Actually I was a bit confused when I looked at the "Archive" folder and found the file "CG7202-EnterEditFormatData_SF_OH07Sep2021.odt" which included the OH initials. However, the "Work in Progress" only had the "CG7202-EnterEditFormatData_SF_04Sep2021.odt" file. So I figured maybe Olivier had done some changes but for some reason his file was only in the Archive. But now I guess I should have only considered the file in the WIP folder as the starting point for the review. Regards, Rafael Lima On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 3:11 PM Steve Fanning wrote: Hi Rafael, Many thanks for the review and helpful comments. I noticed that Olivier’s initials were included in the name of the file that you returned – I wasn’t aware that he was helping with the review. I’ve assumed the file name was in error but please advise if his name needs to be added to the list of contributors for this update. I have modified the document to (hopefully) address all your comments. I’ve accepted the changes and used today’s date in the name of the updated file, which is in the Work In Progress folder and ready for second review. Regards, Steve On 18/10/2021 19:09, Rafael Lima wrote: Hi Team! I am writing to let you know that I have finished reviewing Chapter 2. Steve, you'll find a few comments with my suggestions in the file. Feel free to implement them in the final edit of the chapter. I am now checking out Chapter 6 for review. I expect to return it on Oct 22. Regards, Prof. Dr. Rafael Henrique Palma Lima Departamento de Engenharia de Produção Universidade Tecnológica Federal do Paraná (UTFPR) Câmpus de Londrina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - Chapter 6
Hi Rafael, Many thanks for the review and helpful comments. I noticed that Olivier’s initials were included in the name of the file that you returned – I wasn’t aware that he was helping with the review. I’ve assumed the file name was in error but please advise if his name needs to be added to the list of contributors for this update. I have modified the document to (hopefully) address all your comments. I’ve accepted the changes and used today’s date in the name of the updated file, which is in the Work In Progress folder and ready for second review. Regards, Steve On 18/10/2021 19:09, Rafael Lima wrote: Hi Team! I am writing to let you know that I have finished reviewing Chapter 2. Steve, you'll find a few comments with my suggestions in the file. Feel free to implement them in the final edit of the chapter. I am now checking out Chapter 6 for review. I expect to return it on Oct 22. Regards, Prof. Dr. Rafael Henrique Palma Lima Departamento de Engenharia de Produção Universidade Tecnológica Federal do Paraná (UTFPR) Câmpus de Londrina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 ch. 15 review done
Hi Rachel, Many thanks for your review of this chapter. All comments are agreed and have been addressed. I have placed an updated version of the file into NextCloud with today’s date in the file name. This is now ready for second review. The change to get the correct chapter name into the footers was fine. I will have another look at all footers when the time comes to publish the full document. Thanks again. Regards, Steve On 16/10/2021 16:51, rachel kartch wrote: Hello all-- I've just completed review of CG7215 and uploaded the file to the WIP folder, and moved the older version to Archive. Still have IG7205 checked out and it should be returned early this coming week as previously committed. Rachel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - Chapter 3
Hi Felipe, It's nice to hear from you again; I hope you are well. Thanks for helping out with the reviewing. I don't think there are any significant workflow changes for you to worry about in terms of reviewing. One thing that might help reviewers is that the Preface now includes a summary of what has changed in the document, identifying which chapters are affected. And you may be interested to know that I've included a new chapter at this issue, entitled "User Interface Variants". Regards, Steve On 15/10/2021 16:47, Felipe Viggiano de Souza wrote: Hello everyone, I have checked out the Chapter 3 from Calc Guide 7.2. Expecting to return it by 22 October. I've been away for a while, so, is there any changes in the workflow or in the guides itself that I should pay attention to? Best regards, Felipe Viggiano -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - CG7201-Introduction first review done
Thanks Zibi, Sorry for the slight delay in responding but I've been busy for the last few days. All comments accepted/processed. The updated chapter is in Nextcloud and available for second review. Regards, Steve On 09/10/2021 16:35, zibi wrote: Hi, the first review of CG7201-Introduction is done - the file *CG7201-Introduction_SF_ZZ_09Oct2021 *with comments was uploaded to the WIP folder. Have a great weekend, Zibi On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:42 AM zibi wrote: Hi, the first review of *CG7200-Preface* is done. Now I will do the first review of *CG7201-Introduction *(marked a week in the status file). Have a great week, Zibi On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 9:31 AM zibi wrote: Hi, just wanted to let you know that I will review *CG7200-Preface.* I marked a week for this in Guide Status CG72.ods, but hopefully it won't take this long. Have a great week, best regards, Zibi -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - CG7200-Preface first review done + checking out CG7201-Introduction for first review
Hi Zibi, Thanks for your helpful comments on the Preface. I have changed the ODT file as follows: 1. Included your name in the list of contributors on the second page (hope I spelt it correctly!). 2. Fixed the problem you spotted with the footer. 3. Added a response to your comment under Figure 1 but left both the comment and my response in the file (we can seek a second reviewer's opinion before resolving the comment). 4. Deleted the comments that have been resolved. 5. Accepted changes, ready for second review. I put today’s date on the file but didn’t add my initials again. It is now in the Work in Progress folder, while the file that you returned is in the Archive folder. The chapter should be ready for second review. Regards, Steve On 27/09/2021 07:42, zibi wrote: Hi, the first review of *CG7200-Preface* is done. Now I will do the first review of *CG7201-Introduction *(marked a week in the status file). Have a great week, Zibi On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 9:31 AM zibi wrote: Hi, just wanted to let you know that I will review *CG7200-Preface.* I marked a week for this in Guide Status CG72.ods, but hopefully it won't take this long. Have a great week, best regards, Zibi -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
Hello All, The first draft of the new chapter 15, User Interface Variants, is in the WIP folder and read for first review. Regards, Steve On 12/09/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: Hello All, All existing chapters of the Calc Guide have been updated for 7.2 and are available for first review. They can be found in NextCloud in the appropriate Work in Progress folder. All help with reviewing these chapters would be greatly appreciated. The new chapter 15 entitled "User Interface Variants" is still in preparation. Regards, Steve On 05/09/2021 17:23, Steve Fanning wrote: Hello All, I have completed updating all existing chapters for the 7.2 Calc Guide and these are in NextCloud, ready for review. As discussed at last Thursday’s Documentation Team meeting, Olivier has kindly agreed to perform some checking of the files to “clean” them and make them more suitable for conversion to HTML format. It would be worth waiting for Olivier to carry out that activity before any other reviews. Also at last week’s team meeting, it was suggested that we add an extra chapter to the Calc Guide (entitled “User Interface Variants”), based on Chapter 21 of the latest Writer Guide. I will produce this new chapter in the coming days and advise all when it is ready for review. Regards, Steve On 26/07/2021 21:50, Steve Fanning wrote: All, For information I have added a few additional changes to the original list, found by inspecting the illustrations in the guide while using the software. These have been included in a second version of my note, which can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/d65q2GHGYJ8Hzft. Work continues... Regards, Steve On 21/07/2021 16:55, Steve Fanning wrote: All, I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide. If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW. I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case that turns up any other changes to the document. Regards, Steve On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: All, Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2. I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the changes needed to the text and figures. I will keep the mailing list informed of progress. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
Hello All, All existing chapters of the Calc Guide have been updated for 7.2 and are available for first review. They can be found in NextCloud in the appropriate Work in Progress folder. All help with reviewing these chapters would be greatly appreciated. The new chapter 15 entitled "User Interface Variants" is still in preparation. Regards, Steve On 05/09/2021 17:23, Steve Fanning wrote: Hello All, I have completed updating all existing chapters for the 7.2 Calc Guide and these are in NextCloud, ready for review. As discussed at last Thursday’s Documentation Team meeting, Olivier has kindly agreed to perform some checking of the files to “clean” them and make them more suitable for conversion to HTML format. It would be worth waiting for Olivier to carry out that activity before any other reviews. Also at last week’s team meeting, it was suggested that we add an extra chapter to the Calc Guide (entitled “User Interface Variants”), based on Chapter 21 of the latest Writer Guide. I will produce this new chapter in the coming days and advise all when it is ready for review. Regards, Steve On 26/07/2021 21:50, Steve Fanning wrote: All, For information I have added a few additional changes to the original list, found by inspecting the illustrations in the guide while using the software. These have been included in a second version of my note, which can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/d65q2GHGYJ8Hzft. Work continues... Regards, Steve On 21/07/2021 16:55, Steve Fanning wrote: All, I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide. If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW. I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case that turns up any other changes to the document. Regards, Steve On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: All, Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2. I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the changes needed to the text and figures. I will keep the mailing list informed of progress. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
Thanks Martin, I have moved Olivier’s Calc Guide files to the Archive folder and reinstated the previous versions to the Work in Progress folder. Just as a reminder, I have updated these for 7.2. Is it possible to double-check that these files won't cause any major problems for the translation teams before I invite reviewers to spend time on them? Regards, Steve On 08/09/2021 22:52, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: As with the latest changes to finished 7.2 GS files I urge to not use these changed files and remain with the previous ones as the changes make the localization for some languages impossible (it cannot be grammatically correct in Slavic languages and probably many more). Lp, m. V V sre., 8. sep. 2021 ob 23:04 je oseba Steve Fanning < stevefann...@libreoffice.org> napisala: Thanks Olivier. I just wanted to be sure. Regards, Steve On 08/09/2021 20:17, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Steve Actually I have not reviewed the contents. My initials were set to differentiate from your source, if anything goes wrong. Kind regards Olivier Em 08/09/2021 15:21, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hi Olivier, Many thanks for that. Does the activity that you carried out count as a first review for the returned chapters? Regards, Steve On 08/09/2021 12:01, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Steve, Team... I moved all *SF04Sep2021.odt files to the /Archive/ folder I uploaded *SF_OH07Sep2021.odt files to the WIP folder. Kind regards Olivier Em 07/09/2021 17:37, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hi Olivier, That is intentional. 16 and 17 are the two appendices, with both files renumbered to make room for a "real" chapter to be inserted. Chapter 15 is the new chapter requested at last week's team meeting, entitled User Interface Variants. It is in production. Regards, Steve On 07/09/2021 19:27, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Steve I completed a review of the CG chapters available in WIP folder, but I have not yet uploaded them. I miss Chap 15, and noticed renaming of Chap 16 and 17 with respect to the /archive/ folder. Can you please double check if this is intended? With kind regards Olivier Em 05/09/2021 13:23, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hello All, I have completed updating all existing chapters for the 7.2 Calc Guide and these are in NextCloud, ready for review. As discussed at last Thursday’s Documentation Team meeting, Olivier has kindly agreed to perform some checking of the files to “clean” them and make them more suitable for conversion to HTML format. It would be worth waiting for Olivier to carry out that activity before any other reviews. Also at last week’s team meeting, it was suggested that we add an extra chapter to the Calc Guide (entitled “User Interface Variants”), based on Chapter 21 of the latest Writer Guide. I will produce this new chapter in the coming days and advise all when it is ready for review. Regards, Steve On 26/07/2021 21:50, Steve Fanning wrote: All, For information I have added a few additional changes to the original list, found by inspecting the illustrations in the guide while using the software. These have been included in a second version of my note, which can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/d65q2GHGYJ8Hzft. Work continues... Regards, Steve On 21/07/2021 16:55, Steve Fanning wrote: All, I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide. If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW. I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case that turns up any other changes to the document. Regards, Steve On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: All, Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2. I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the changes needed to the text and figures. I will keep the mailing list informed of progress. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
Thanks Olivier. I just wanted to be sure. Regards, Steve On 08/09/2021 20:17, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Steve Actually I have not reviewed the contents. My initials were set to differentiate from your source, if anything goes wrong. Kind regards Olivier Em 08/09/2021 15:21, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hi Olivier, Many thanks for that. Does the activity that you carried out count as a first review for the returned chapters? Regards, Steve On 08/09/2021 12:01, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Steve, Team... I moved all *SF04Sep2021.odt files to the /Archive/ folder I uploaded *SF_OH07Sep2021.odt files to the WIP folder. Kind regards Olivier Em 07/09/2021 17:37, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hi Olivier, That is intentional. 16 and 17 are the two appendices, with both files renumbered to make room for a "real" chapter to be inserted. Chapter 15 is the new chapter requested at last week's team meeting, entitled User Interface Variants. It is in production. Regards, Steve On 07/09/2021 19:27, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Steve I completed a review of the CG chapters available in WIP folder, but I have not yet uploaded them. I miss Chap 15, and noticed renaming of Chap 16 and 17 with respect to the /archive/ folder. Can you please double check if this is intended? With kind regards Olivier Em 05/09/2021 13:23, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hello All, I have completed updating all existing chapters for the 7.2 Calc Guide and these are in NextCloud, ready for review. As discussed at last Thursday’s Documentation Team meeting, Olivier has kindly agreed to perform some checking of the files to “clean” them and make them more suitable for conversion to HTML format. It would be worth waiting for Olivier to carry out that activity before any other reviews. Also at last week’s team meeting, it was suggested that we add an extra chapter to the Calc Guide (entitled “User Interface Variants”), based on Chapter 21 of the latest Writer Guide. I will produce this new chapter in the coming days and advise all when it is ready for review. Regards, Steve On 26/07/2021 21:50, Steve Fanning wrote: All, For information I have added a few additional changes to the original list, found by inspecting the illustrations in the guide while using the software. These have been included in a second version of my note, which can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/d65q2GHGYJ8Hzft. Work continues... Regards, Steve On 21/07/2021 16:55, Steve Fanning wrote: All, I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide. If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW. I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case that turns up any other changes to the document. Regards, Steve On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: All, Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2. I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the changes needed to the text and figures. I will keep the mailing list informed of progress. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
Hi Olivier, Many thanks for that. Does the activity that you carried out count as a first review for the returned chapters? Regards, Steve On 08/09/2021 12:01, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Steve, Team... I moved all *SF04Sep2021.odt files to the /Archive/ folder I uploaded *SF_OH07Sep2021.odt files to the WIP folder. Kind regards Olivier Em 07/09/2021 17:37, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hi Olivier, That is intentional. 16 and 17 are the two appendices, with both files renumbered to make room for a "real" chapter to be inserted. Chapter 15 is the new chapter requested at last week's team meeting, entitled User Interface Variants. It is in production. Regards, Steve On 07/09/2021 19:27, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Steve I completed a review of the CG chapters available in WIP folder, but I have not yet uploaded them. I miss Chap 15, and noticed renaming of Chap 16 and 17 with respect to the /archive/ folder. Can you please double check if this is intended? With kind regards Olivier Em 05/09/2021 13:23, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hello All, I have completed updating all existing chapters for the 7.2 Calc Guide and these are in NextCloud, ready for review. As discussed at last Thursday’s Documentation Team meeting, Olivier has kindly agreed to perform some checking of the files to “clean” them and make them more suitable for conversion to HTML format. It would be worth waiting for Olivier to carry out that activity before any other reviews. Also at last week’s team meeting, it was suggested that we add an extra chapter to the Calc Guide (entitled “User Interface Variants”), based on Chapter 21 of the latest Writer Guide. I will produce this new chapter in the coming days and advise all when it is ready for review. Regards, Steve On 26/07/2021 21:50, Steve Fanning wrote: All, For information I have added a few additional changes to the original list, found by inspecting the illustrations in the guide while using the software. These have been included in a second version of my note, which can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/d65q2GHGYJ8Hzft. Work continues... Regards, Steve On 21/07/2021 16:55, Steve Fanning wrote: All, I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide. If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW. I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case that turns up any other changes to the document. Regards, Steve On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: All, Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2. I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the changes needed to the text and figures. I will keep the mailing list informed of progress. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
Hi Olivier, That is intentional. 16 and 17 are the two appendices, with both files renumbered to make room for a "real" chapter to be inserted. Chapter 15 is the new chapter requested at last week's team meeting, entitled User Interface Variants. It is in production. Regards, Steve On 07/09/2021 19:27, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Steve I completed a review of the CG chapters available in WIP folder, but I have not yet uploaded them. I miss Chap 15, and noticed renaming of Chap 16 and 17 with respect to the /archive/ folder. Can you please double check if this is intended? With kind regards Olivier Em 05/09/2021 13:23, Steve Fanning escreveu: Hello All, I have completed updating all existing chapters for the 7.2 Calc Guide and these are in NextCloud, ready for review. As discussed at last Thursday’s Documentation Team meeting, Olivier has kindly agreed to perform some checking of the files to “clean” them and make them more suitable for conversion to HTML format. It would be worth waiting for Olivier to carry out that activity before any other reviews. Also at last week’s team meeting, it was suggested that we add an extra chapter to the Calc Guide (entitled “User Interface Variants”), based on Chapter 21 of the latest Writer Guide. I will produce this new chapter in the coming days and advise all when it is ready for review. Regards, Steve On 26/07/2021 21:50, Steve Fanning wrote: All, For information I have added a few additional changes to the original list, found by inspecting the illustrations in the guide while using the software. These have been included in a second version of my note, which can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/d65q2GHGYJ8Hzft. Work continues... Regards, Steve On 21/07/2021 16:55, Steve Fanning wrote: All, I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide. If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW. I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case that turns up any other changes to the document. Regards, Steve On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: All, Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2. I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the changes needed to the text and figures. I will keep the mailing list informed of progress. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
Hello All, I have completed updating all existing chapters for the 7.2 Calc Guide and these are in NextCloud, ready for review. As discussed at last Thursday’s Documentation Team meeting, Olivier has kindly agreed to perform some checking of the files to “clean” them and make them more suitable for conversion to HTML format. It would be worth waiting for Olivier to carry out that activity before any other reviews. Also at last week’s team meeting, it was suggested that we add an extra chapter to the Calc Guide (entitled “User Interface Variants”), based on Chapter 21 of the latest Writer Guide. I will produce this new chapter in the coming days and advise all when it is ready for review. Regards, Steve On 26/07/2021 21:50, Steve Fanning wrote: All, For information I have added a few additional changes to the original list, found by inspecting the illustrations in the guide while using the software. These have been included in a second version of my note, which can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/d65q2GHGYJ8Hzft. Work continues... Regards, Steve On 21/07/2021 16:55, Steve Fanning wrote: All, I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide. If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW. I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case that turns up any other changes to the document. Regards, Steve On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: All, Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2. I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the changes needed to the text and figures. I will keep the mailing list informed of progress. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc 7.2 and autocompletion changes
Thanks Sophie, The limit will be removed from the Calc Guide at 7.2. I can also remove it from the help in due course, if nobody else does it first. Regards, Steve On 03/09/2021 10:23, sophi wrote: Hi all, Le 02/09/2021 à 19:47, Steve Fanning a écrit : Hi Ilmari, I agree that when the changes are complete, we should make sure that the Calc Guide describes the implemented behaviour accurately. There is already a change in 7.2, the limit indicated here: https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-GB/text/scalc/01/0613.html doesn't exist anymore. See the comment from Eike on this question: https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/autoinput-how-to-increase-number-of-cells-above-to-be-scanned/67591 Cheers Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc 7.2 and autocompletion changes
Hi Ilmari, I agree that when the changes are complete, we should make sure that the Calc Guide describes the implemented behaviour accurately. Regards, Steve On 02/09/2021 17:25, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: It occurred to me that these changes affect documentation: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142214 However, the whole thing is kind of up in the air because there is clearly a need for improvement and fast, as annoyed users are voicing their disappointment. I would at least hope that the feature would be addressed in a point release. Ilmari -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Renaming chapter images for better navigation and accessibility
Hi Olivier, Where is the latest version of the script kept? Regards, Steve On 27/08/2021 20:21, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi While working on chapter formatting and cleanup, I found quite hard to access images from the Navigator, because the "name" displayed in the Navigator is random not connected to the image caption or caption sequence number. I wrote a small BASIC script that fills the image properties fields "Name", "Title" and "Description" with the contents of the caption, in this order: Name = "Figure nn", where nn is the caption number Title = the complete caption e.g. "Figure 12: the paragraph area dialog" Description = the text of the caption, for example "the paragraph area dialog". Note: "Title" is also known as image ALT text. I have not seen any specific usage of these 3 properties in our chapters so I don't expect to break anything. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The script can be run any time during edition. Previous image naming is overwritten. Caption sequence numbers are not affected, so the references in the text are maintained. A side benefit of the script is to improve the accessibility of the guides, as explained in this wiki page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility/Creating_Accessible_LibreOffice_Files#How_to_add_alternative_descriptions_to_images_in_a_document Comments welcome. Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Introduction - joining the team
Hi All, In the interests of avoiding confusion, the updated files for the 7.2 Calc Guide are NOT currently in NextCloud. I will advise via the mailing list when they are ready to be reviewed, by whoever wishes to review them. Regards, Steve On 30/08/2021 21:09, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hello Laura You are welcome to review any guide book chapter. The Calc guide is a good topic for mathematicians and well as the Math guide (equation editor). All files are in the cloud, at LibreOffice Documentation/English/Calc Guide/7.2/Work in Progress/ (Calc) Download one chapter and review/update, according to the page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides If you have questions, pleas ask here Kind regards Olivier Em 28/08/2021 05:34, Laura Venieri escreveu: Hi everyone, My name is Laura and I would like to join the documentation team. As a background I'm a mathematician, and currently working as quantitative analyst. Joining the project seems like a great way to improve my technical writing skills, so looking forward to getting started! Maybe I could start with some review of the guide books, feel free to give advice. Kind regards, Laura -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Introduction - joining the team
Hi Laura, Welcome! I'm a member of the Documentation Team who (at the moment) focuses on Calc aspects. I've been chatting to Ilmari Lauhakangas and wondered whether you would be interested in helping with some of our current activities to improve Calc's documentation? There is plenty to work on but I will try to avoid scaring you off by covering too much! One area where you might be able to add great value quickly is in our Calc Functions wiki (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions). Within the 500+ pages accessible through this section of the TDF wiki (one page for each of Calc's functions) there are 63 pages covering financial functions. As a mathematician working in quantitative analysis, then I expect you will know a lot more than me about what these functions should do - perhaps you could review their current descriptions to identify any corrections or improvements that could be considered? Another task you could certainly help with is reviewing the LibreOffice 7.2 Calc Guide chapters, when I've completed the updates in a few days time. Please let me know if these activities interest you. Regards, Steve Fanning On 28/08/2021 09:34, Laura Venieri wrote: Hi everyone, My name is Laura and I would like to join the documentation team. As a background I'm a mathematician, and currently working as quantitative analyst. Joining the project seems like a great way to improve my technical writing skills, so looking forward to getting started! Maybe I could start with some review of the guide books, feel free to give advice. Kind regards, Laura -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question about Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2
All, First of all, it is true that the help page does not yet describe the revised layout and functionality of the Paste dialog. We will catch up soon no doubt. Similarly the Calc Guide doesn't yet describe the new dialog - I'm working on that. The nice thing about the "Run immediately" checkbox is that if unticked, you can press one of the four shortcut buttons to see which combination of options on the right hand side of the dialog would apply if that short cut button was actioned "for real". In previous versions of the software I often wondered which combination of options was equivalent to each of the (three) preset buttons. The default is for the "Run immediately" button to be checked (whenever you open the dialog), so that a click on a preset button is actioned immediately and the dialog is closed, which is what the experienced used would require. Regards, Steve On 08/08/2021 09:30, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: Hi , Ilmari, it it is off it still pastes the content; In both ways the settings and formatting does not get copied (i,e. the font color), but the values do get copied. Only if you check Formats in the Paste Special window also the formatting gets pasted. Lp, m. V V ned., 8. avg. 2021 ob 09:08 je oseba Ilmari Lauhakangas < ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> napisala: On 8.8.2021 9.31, Jean Weber wrote: On the Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2 there is a checkbox labeled “Run immediately”. It is selected by default. Can someone tell me what it does, and what happens if it is not selected? I did some experiments and could see no difference. I couldn’t find it in the Help. The dialog has been rearranged in v7.2, and this checkbox is new, so it is not mentioned in the Calc 7.1 Guide. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134802#c10 Quote: "Run Immediately" off means the button applies settings only) Ilmari -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 22th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Hi Olivier, When you mention "Image anchoring and captions adjusted", are you referring to a change in our recommended methods? Regards, Steve On 26/07/2021 03:06, Olivier Hallot wrote: HI Team Em 22/07/2021 16:02, Olivier Hallot escreveu: Topics and Discussion: * Update calc guide formatting for 7.2 (SF) AI: - Cleanup and create 7.2 folder + covers (OH) I created the Calc Guide 7.2 chapters in the 7.2 WIP folder. Files were "cleaned". By Cleand I mean 1) All direct formatting were removed 2) Bullet lists were cleaned 3) Image anchoring and captions adjusted 4) Chapter contents are wrapped in sections in the following schema: a) SEC_LOGO holds the top chapter image/logo b) SEC_GUIDE holds the Guide name + version c) SEC_TITLE holds the chapter title and subtitle d) SEC_DISPLAYAREA holds from the copyright to end of chapter. These sections don't affect ODT and PDF output and are important for a web output, as displayed in https://books.libreoffice.org/en/CG71/CG7105-UsingGraphics.html Kind regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
All, For information I have added a few additional changes to the original list, found by inspecting the illustrations in the guide while using the software. These have been included in a second version of my note, which can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/d65q2GHGYJ8Hzft. Work continues... Regards, Steve On 21/07/2021 16:55, Steve Fanning wrote: All, I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide. If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW. I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case that turns up any other changes to the document. Regards, Steve On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: All, Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2. I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the changes needed to the text and figures. I will keep the mailing list informed of progress. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
All, I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide. If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW. I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case that turns up any other changes to the document. Regards, Steve On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote: All, Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2. I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the changes needed to the text and figures. I will keep the mailing list informed of progress. Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
