Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO white paper
Hi, I'm afraid that the edits to my migration white paper have gotten a bit too complicated and I just haven't got the time right now to keep track or respond to them. So I'll have to leave the document (in both its homes - odfauthors and ownCloud) in the capable hands of others. Thanks, David On 13-11-14 04:08 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Tim, Le Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:53:46 +1100, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com a écrit : Charles, David first offered his services back in late September. Since then he has produced a couple of how-tos and now this white paper. How come it has taken so long for marketing to acknowledge his effort? It's not about acknowledging his effort but making sure we respect our trademark policy [1] and making sure his contributions go to the right place and within the right context. Conversely, it may not be up to marketing or to the certification team to reach out to David, but the opposite. But David's contributions are acknowledged anyway. Cheers, Charles. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy cheers On 14/11/13 08:47, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: David, Preston, I am very sorry but I may be raining on your parade. First of all, please take away the logo with the TDF subline. This white paper is by no means an actual official migration white paper from TDF. Second... Thanks a lot for this whitepaper. May I suggest that you work with the certification team ? They already started on similar works and I think we/they would really appreciate your input. You can join them on the certification mailing list. Let me know if you have any questions. Best regards and sorry for cooling a bit the enthusiasm, Charles. Le Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:57:33 -0500, Preston Bernstein prestonbernst...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi everyone, I did a little update to David's white paper. Love to hear what you guys think. Thanks! http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_papers/update-to-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper-nov-13-2013/view On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:45 AM, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I've done a bit of updating of my white paper (making the case to transition from MS Office to LO), and it can be found here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_ papers/update-to-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper-nov-4-2013/view Or, if you don't have access to ODF, it's also available either in PDF or ODT formats here: http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.pdf http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.odt Anyone can use it wherever it might be helpful. Does anyone have any suggestions for a permanent home? David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] LO white paper
Hi everyone, I've done a bit of updating of my white paper (making the case to transition from MS Office to LO), and it can be found here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_papers/update-to-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper-nov-4-2013/view Or, if you don't have access to ODF, it's also available either in PDF or ODT formats here: http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.pdf http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.odt Anyone can use it wherever it might be helpful. Does anyone have any suggestions for a permanent home? David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] White Paper
Blame LibreOffice endnotes. Time for a few choice words with the developers? :) Thanks for pointing it out...I'll fix it. David On 13-10-30 07:14 PM, jonathon wrote: On 10/29/2013 08:03 PM, dbclinton wrote: I'm interested in any and all comments, corrections Please use the same page size on _all_ pages. The last page is slightly larger than most of the previous pages. I read the PDF. My guess is that you used A4 for some pages, and Letter Size for other pages. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] White Paper
Hi Tim, Thanks for your note. I believe that my source was http://www.idealware.org/articles/msoffice_vs_openoffice.php - and specifically this: Interestingly, OpenOffice can open substantially older versions of Microsoft Office files than Microsoft Office itself can, or even some corrupted files that Microsoft Office can't open. For an IT department, OpenOffice is worth having around just for that. However, it would certainly be nice to confirm it. Does anyone have anything else on this? David On 13-10-29 10:06 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi David, I have nothing to add to the doc which I think provides a suitable launchpad to interest management. One comment though: Not only that, but MS Office 2010 and 2013 can't even open some documents created in earlier versions of MS Office itself, Do we actually have a reference point for this? If I was behind the bosses chair and I could see the impact of upgrading MSO then this would be a significant point. Cheers On 30/10/13 07:03, dbclinton wrote: Hi, I've completed a draft of my white paper making the business case for LO over MS Office. For now, for want of a better solution, I've branded it as part of the LibreOffice Document Foundation and put it in its own folder on the ODF site here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_papers/transition-from-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper For those who can't access it there, you can download a PDF here: http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.pdf I'm interested in any and all comments, corrections and thoughts as to how it could be put to good use. Perhaps someone might also cross-post this email to market...@global.libreoffice.org - I've tried a couple of times to join up only to be steadfastly ignored (my email mysteriously disappears down the Internet's terrifying, gaping maw). Regards, David Clinton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] white paper
On 13-10-23 05:58 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 10/22/13 9:21 PM, dbclinton wrote: Are there any resources lying around that could be useful...like something that documents the time/labor costs of closed platform systems or handling malware? Unfortunately not. Microsoft has managed to avoid the publication of all the reports on these subjects, and has plenty of documents about the opposite statement (i.e. how expensive are open platforms). I've seen some of those MS-sponsored documents. :) The head of software development for a very large European IT firm told me recently that MS owes them a huge amount of money for all the countless hours of lost productivity caused by Win8's Metro desktop. I guess I would have to focus on the published site licensing fees. Analysts do have these data, but will never release them unless you cover them in gold. Googling about PDF documents on the subject will find a number of analyst documents, where you can find some hints but no data. I'll take a look. Thanks. David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] white paper
Hi Robinson, Jean also pointed me to the migration white paper and I went to take a look. He did a great job documenting the process of transition, which was a little bit of what I was thinking of doing. I think my idea - to make the business case for transition - is a good complement to that paper. Are there any resources lying around that could be useful...like something that documents the time/labor costs of closed platform systems or handling malware? Regards, David On 13-10-22 02:46 PM, Robinson Tryon wrote: [I'm cc'ing Marketing] On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:05 PM, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: You have a marketing team? :) Hi David, LibreOffice Marketing has a wiki page here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing ...and a mailing list here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing#Communication TDF released a whitepaper about migrations in March: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/03/27/tdf-releases-white-paper-to-help-migrations-to-libreoffice/ More information about migrations sounds great to me. I'm interested in giving some presentations for local nonprofits, and having more papers and feedback about migration experiences would help me showcase LibreOffice :-) Cheers, --R On 13-10-21 02:56 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it's a brilliant idea! Have the marketing team produced anything like that? Regards from Tom :) On Monday, 21 October 2013, 18:57, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of creating a formal white paper presenting the case for LibreOffice in a small business environment (1-50 employees). I have a vague memory of something similar being discussed here before. Does such a thing already exist or is it in production? Does the gang think it's a good idea? Regards, David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org mailto:unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] white paper
Hi, I'm thinking of creating a formal white paper presenting the case for LibreOffice in a small business environment (1-50 employees). I have a vague memory of something similar being discussed here before. Does such a thing already exist or is it in production? Does the gang think it's a good idea? Regards, David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] white paper
You have a marketing team? :) On 13-10-21 02:56 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it's a brilliant idea! Have the marketing team produced anything like that? Regards from Tom :) On Monday, 21 October 2013, 18:57, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of creating a formal white paper presenting the case for LibreOffice in a small business environment (1-50 employees). I have a vague memory of something similar being discussed here before. Does such a thing already exist or is it in production? Does the gang think it's a good idea? Regards, David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org mailto:unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Reviewed draft how-to on creating ad posters using Draw
I've uploaded updates for all three of my how-tos based on your edits to Posters. I get the point of your comment: Some colloquialisms are IMO a bit too colloquial. But it did remind me of my wife's complaints that she doesn't like fish when it tastes too fishy. :) Regards, David On 13-10-04 01:14 AM, Jean Weber wrote: I have created a folder under How-tos for Feedback (reviews and edits) and put there my reviewed copy of the draft how-to on creating ad posters using Draw. David, you can accept or reject my edits and suggestions as you choose. Some of them, if you accept them, could probably be applied to other parts of the document as well; I didn't do a detailed edit. http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/how-tos-tutorials/feedback/create-ad-posters-using-draw/view --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New how-do doc
On 13-10-03 02:14 AM, Jean Weber wrote: That's certainly possible and indeed has been one of the ideas I've been considering. It's always a toss up between too long a page and too many clicks to get to a page. Thanks. I'll try to give it some more thought... I've also been considering trying out some additional pages of collections, grouped by component, to supplement the pages grouped by document type. However, it's not a good idea to have too many pointers that need to be manually added or updated, so I need to look up how to embed (include) a page of info into several display pages. I've done this before, but not for several years. Or perhaps someone here is familiar with that technique? Clayton, perhaps? If it's html you're looking for, something like this might work: iframe src=http://www.mysite.com; height=1100; width=1400/iframe David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New how-do doc
Thanks for the details. I wonder if a how-tos menu link might not fit somewhere towards the bottom of the Contents menu in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications (perhaps before or after FAQ). The bigger question might be whether it's possible to add a link to a single hub page linking to some of the orphaned material (like Reference Cards and Video Tutorials, along with how-tos) in http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ - perhaps there could be a link beneath Other books coming soon to a page that, in turn, links to Other Documentation David On 13-10-02 08:58 PM, Jean Weber wrote: We have a process, which mostly isn't followed due to too few people to do the work. I try to go through work by new contributors and then turn them loose if they don't need or want supervision. In practice, I generally publish everything, often because people are waiting for others to review or edit and I decide to just publish anyway, ready or not. I (and Hazel, and Peter, among others) try to edit and enforce some consistency among chapters in the users guides (particularly in a book which is not all being done by the same person), but authors of stand-alone documents are welcome to deviate from the voice of the user guides. You are also welcome to publish your docs whenever you feel they are ready; if I or anyone reviews it and finds anything that needs improvment, we'll suggest changes to the author or simply make the changes (typos etc) and replace the published version. David, I'm working my way through your first how-to, mostly using it as an opportunity to point out how we do things in the user guides, which you can choose to follow or not. I've not had a chance to consider what's the best place to list how-tos on the wiki. Quite a lot of the available material is poorly organised and difficult for people to find. Suggestions welcome. As longer-term members of the team know, we keep attempting to improve the organisation of the wiki; it's definitely an ongoing process. --Jean On 1 Oct 2013, at 10:01, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. I appreciate it. What is the process we follow for moving a doc to actual publication? It's rather obvious from looking around the site that Jean somehow manages to be involved in an awful lot what happens here (not to take away from the contributions of many others), but even she probably can't steward every doc through every step of its journey... David On 13-09-30 07:44 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: I can only reinforce what Jean said in another email. I don't have all that much experience of draw so I just followed the the steps in the doc. These were easy to understand. Well laid out and easy to follow. Nothing else to say really. Well done. Cheers On 09/27/2013 10:46 AM, Jean Weber wrote: I've created a suitable folder and moved the file there: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/how-tos-tutorials I probably won't find time to look at, edit, or comment on the contents until next week, though. --Jean On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:46 AM, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've uploaded a first draft of a how-to doc: How to Create Ad Posters Using LibreOffice Draw As there is currently no /libreoffice/english/howto/ folder (and I didn't feel I'd been around long enough to create one), I just dumped the doc in /libreoffice/english - anyone who wants to find a better home for it is welcome. Also welcome are any edits, criticisms, and comments. Regards, David Clinton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] New user guide - printing labels
Hi, I've added another user guide. I'd especially like feedback on this one because, unlike my first two guides, I experimented this time with a briefer, more proceedural style that I feel lends itself to the skill set needed to print labels. Best regards, David Clinton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Ideas for How-To's
In case anyone is so inclined, here are a few ideas that might prove useful as LO how-to's: Create charts in Calc for export to Impress Print address labels from the data in a Calc file Create formal reports in Write: 1. Insert images while maintaining an attractive balance and without filesize bloat 2. Use tables in Write to professinally organize text 3. Insert page numbers while supressing numbering for title pages etc., Regards, David Clinton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New how-do doc
Thanks. I appreciate it. What is the process we follow for moving a doc to actual publication? It's rather obvious from looking around the site that Jean somehow manages to be involved in an awful lot what happens here (not to take away from the contributions of many others), but even she probably can't steward every doc through every step of its journey... David On 13-09-30 07:44 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: I can only reinforce what Jean said in another email. I don't have all that much experience of draw so I just followed the the steps in the doc. These were easy to understand. Well laid out and easy to follow. Nothing else to say really. Well done. Cheers On 09/27/2013 10:46 AM, Jean Weber wrote: I've created a suitable folder and moved the file there: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/how-tos-tutorials I probably won't find time to look at, edit, or comment on the contents until next week, though. --Jean On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:46 AM, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've uploaded a first draft of a how-to doc: How to Create Ad Posters Using LibreOffice Draw As there is currently no /libreoffice/english/howto/ folder (and I didn't feel I'd been around long enough to create one), I just dumped the doc in /libreoffice/english - anyone who wants to find a better home for it is welcome. Also welcome are any edits, criticisms, and comments. Regards, David Clinton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Budget how to
Hi all, I've uploaded a first draft of a how to for creating a financial budget using Calc (and sample files for the budget how-to and for my poster how-to). Any criticism or edits are welcome. David Clinton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] New how-do doc
Hi, I've uploaded a first draft of a how-to doc: How to Create Ad Posters Using LibreOffice Draw As there is currently no /libreoffice/english/howto/ folder (and I didn't feel I'd been around long enough to create one), I just dumped the doc in /libreoffice/english - anyone who wants to find a better home for it is welcome. Also welcome are any edits, criticisms, and comments. Regards, David Clinton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] LO Documentation
Hi, I've been using open source software (including LibreOffice) for just about ten years now, and exclusively Linux for about six. Since I am a writer and editor with some enterprise software documentation experience (especially using Atlassian Confluence), I figured it's about time I tried to give a little back. My primary LO experience is with Draw and Writer - I've used these tools to create the layouts for dozens of full-length books and event journals - among hundreds of other projects. Anyone have any ideas for a good place where I can start? As an aside, I recently created a Udemy course called Zero Budget Typesetting based on LibreOffice. If any list members would like, you can access it free using this link: https://www.udemy.com/zero-budget-typesetting/?couponCode=LO+Free+Access Hope I can work with you soon, David Clinton Ottawa, Canada -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
