[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 7.1 "Writer Guide". suggest add steps for error messages involving "protected view" when opening an .ODT document from an email.

[jon chalk]

Hello,
When my recipients were trying to save an .ODT file they received in an email, 
they were unable to save the document onto their system/USB/Drive, etc. Instead 
they would get an error message "Protected View..." (the message has more 
information). I was unable to find any instructions on how to handle this 
situation on either the Writer Guide (7.1) or on the forums. However, after a 
bit of searching online I finally found the solution.
Please add to the guide the following instructions: "Save the email attachment 
to either your hard drive, external drive, or memory card first. Opening the 
attachment directly from within the email will cause the error message 
"Protected View..." and this will prevent you from saving the attachment to 
your computer."
So next time I have a call from another recipient, I can just search the guide 
for the words "protected view" and the instructions will remind me what I need 
to instruct my recipient on what to do next.
Kind regards,


Jo

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[libreoffice-documentation] Hi from Poland

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Hi all,

I recently decided to try and give back to the open-source community and
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My name is Zibi (Zbyszek) and I live in Poland - for now at least. I have
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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of WG7211-ImagesAndGraphics

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[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.2

[Peter Schofield]

Version 01 of Chapter 3 Adding and Formatting Text for the Impress Guide 7.2 is 
now In Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its first review and 
comment.

Now for Chapter 4.

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of WG7206-PagesAdvanced

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I have given WG7206-PagesAdvanced a first review.
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Yes it is a rainy day :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Direct formatting in the LO 72 template

[Peter Schofield]

Hello Milos and Jean

Using the LibreOffice_7.x.V2_Template.ott.
Copy and paste unformatted text from the previous version of a chapter into the 
template to create a new chapter file.
Go though the pasted text and add the heading styles to all headings in the 
unformatted text.
Go though the chapter again to make the necessary changes to text to match the 
LO version I am working on (now 7.2).
Sometimes I have to change a heading to match the changes. Simply done by 
highlighting and typing in the change.
Normally there is no visible change in the appearance of the recently typed 
text.
Occasionally, the typed text looks slightly different and not correct. 
Reapplying the heading style usually fixes it.
Update the table of contents index and this is when you see the problem, mainly 
with Heading 3 style.
The text that has been replaced in a Heading 3 style is in italic format in the 
table of contents. The text in the style that was not changed is OK.
Solution is to go to the heading the chapter and delete it.
Create a Text Body paragraph.
Retype the heading.
Reapply the heading style.
Update the index for the ToC and the problem is fixed.

I am using LO 7.2 for macOS on a Mac mini that uses macOS Big Sur 11.5.1.

Hope that helps in identifying the problem.

Regards
Peter Schofield
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> On 15 Aug 2021, at 17:10, Milos Sramek  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> odtclean.py is a script used to remove (usually invisible) direct
> formatting (i. e. its tags) from text, so that the text can be
> translated by translation programs (e. g. OmegaT).
> I do not think it can cause this problem, but I have to check to be sure.
> But I do not understand how to reproduce the problem - please send a
> more detailed description how to reproduce it. Thanks.
> milos
> 
> On 8/15/21 9:31 AM, Peter Schofield wrote:
>> Hello Olivier
>> 
>> I do not know what odtclean.py is and its purpose. I am definitely no 
>> software expert.
>> 
>> When the ToC should odd formatting, I did not know what was causing it. Only 
>> noticed a few months ago when changing a Heading 3 in a chapter. The new 
>> text did not format to the Heading 3 style.
>> Solution was to change the Heading 3 into Text Body, make the change and 
>> then reapply Heading 3. Updating the ToC was then without problems.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Peter Schofield
>> psaut...@gmail.com
>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
>> 
>>> On 15 Aug 2021, at 04:21, Olivier Hallot  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Peter
>>> Yes I noticed that behaviour in the ToC and when I changed color of the 
>>> Heading style.
>>> 
>>> I don't know why this happens, I though originally that it was a mistake 
>>> introduced by the reviewer/author.
>>> 
>>> No error in a blank file.
>>> 
>>> Olivier
>>> Untested guess: can it be a consequence of odtclean.py ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Em 14/08/2021 12:23, Peter Schofield escreveu:
>>>> Here is a little problem that you should look out for.
>>>> When changing text in Heading 1, 2 and 3, direct formatting is directly 
>>>> applied to the new text. This shows when updating the index for the ToC.
>>>> The only way to get rid of the error is to highlight the heading and go to 
>>>> Format > Clear Direct Formatting in the Menu bar.
>>>> Update the index for the ToC and the formatting error has gone.
>>>> Could this be a problem in the template or in LibreOffice and has anyone 
>>>> got a solution?
>>>> Regards
>>>> Peter Schofield
>>>> psaut...@gmail.com
>>>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
>>> -- 
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>>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
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[libreoffice-documentation] I have given WG7205-PagesBasics a first review

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I have given WG7205-PagesBasics a first review.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Direct formatting in the LO 72 template

[Jean Weber]

Milos,

In my experience, the problem Peter described occurs in some files that
began life years ago and have been edited by various people since then. I
have never seen it in newly created files, except in some cases when old
material is pasted in with retained formatting.

Jean

On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 01:12 Milos Sramek  wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> odtclean.py is a script used to remove (usually invisible) direct
> formatting (i. e. its tags) from text, so that the text can be
> translated by translation programs (e. g. OmegaT).
> I do not think it can cause this problem, but I have to check to be sure.
> But I do not understand how to reproduce the problem - please send a
> more detailed description how to reproduce it. Thanks.
> milos
>
> On 8/15/21 9:31 AM, Peter Schofield wrote:
> > Hello Olivier
> >
> > I do not know what odtclean.py is and its purpose. I am definitely no
> software expert.
> >
> > When the ToC should odd formatting, I did not know what was causing it.
> Only noticed a few months ago when changing a Heading 3 in a chapter. The
> new text did not format to the Heading 3 style.
> > Solution was to change the Heading 3 into Text Body, make the change and
> then reapply Heading 3. Updating the ToC was then without problems.
> >
> > Regards
> > Peter Schofield
> > psaut...@gmail.com
> > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
> >
> >> On 15 Aug 2021, at 04:21, Olivier Hallot <
> olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Peter
> >> Yes I noticed that behaviour in the ToC and when I changed color of the
> Heading style.
> >>
> >> I don't know why this happens, I though originally that it was a
> mistake introduced by the reviewer/author.
> >>
> >> No error in a blank file.
> >>
> >> Olivier
> >> Untested guess: can it be a consequence of odtclean.py ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Em 14/08/2021 12:23, Peter Schofield escreveu:
> >>> Here is a little problem that you should look out for.
> >>> When changing text in Heading 1, 2 and 3, direct formatting is
> directly applied to the new text. This shows when updating the index for
> the ToC.
> >>> The only way to get rid of the error is to highlight the heading and
> go to Format > Clear Direct Formatting in the Menu bar.
> >>> Update the index for the ToC and the formatting error has gone.
> >>> Could this be a problem in the template or in LibreOffice and has
> anyone got a solution?
> >>> Regards
> >>> Peter Schofield
> >>> psaut...@gmail.com
> >>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
> >> --
> >> Olivier Hallot
> >> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
> >>
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Direct formatting in the LO 72 template

[Milos Sramek]

Hi Peter,

odtclean.py is a script used to remove (usually invisible) direct
formatting (i. e. its tags) from text, so that the text can be
translated by translation programs (e. g. OmegaT).
I do not think it can cause this problem, but I have to check to be sure.
But I do not understand how to reproduce the problem - please send a
more detailed description how to reproduce it. Thanks.
milos

On 8/15/21 9:31 AM, Peter Schofield wrote:
> Hello Olivier
>
> I do not know what odtclean.py is and its purpose. I am definitely no 
> software expert.
>
> When the ToC should odd formatting, I did not know what was causing it. Only 
> noticed a few months ago when changing a Heading 3 in a chapter. The new text 
> did not format to the Heading 3 style.
> Solution was to change the Heading 3 into Text Body, make the change and then 
> reapply Heading 3. Updating the ToC was then without problems.
>
> Regards
> Peter Schofield
> psaut...@gmail.com
> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
>
>> On 15 Aug 2021, at 04:21, Olivier Hallot  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Peter
>> Yes I noticed that behaviour in the ToC and when I changed color of the 
>> Heading style.
>>
>> I don't know why this happens, I though originally that it was a mistake 
>> introduced by the reviewer/author.
>>
>> No error in a blank file.
>>
>> Olivier
>> Untested guess: can it be a consequence of odtclean.py ?
>>
>>
>> Em 14/08/2021 12:23, Peter Schofield escreveu:
>>> Here is a little problem that you should look out for.
>>> When changing text in Heading 1, 2 and 3, direct formatting is directly 
>>> applied to the new text. This shows when updating the index for the ToC.
>>> The only way to get rid of the error is to highlight the heading and go to 
>>> Format > Clear Direct Formatting in the Menu bar.
>>> Update the index for the ToC and the formatting error has gone.
>>> Could this be a problem in the template or in LibreOffice and has anyone 
>>> got a solution?
>>> Regards
>>> Peter Schofield
>>> psaut...@gmail.com
>>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
>> -- 
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>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Direct formatting in the LO 72 template

[Peter Schofield]

Hello Olivier

I do not know what odtclean.py is and its purpose. I am definitely no software 
expert.

When the ToC should odd formatting, I did not know what was causing it. Only 
noticed a few months ago when changing a Heading 3 in a chapter. The new text 
did not format to the Heading 3 style.
Solution was to change the Heading 3 into Text Body, make the change and then 
reapply Heading 3. Updating the ToC was then without problems.

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com
Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team

> On 15 Aug 2021, at 04:21, Olivier Hallot  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Peter
> Yes I noticed that behaviour in the ToC and when I changed color of the 
> Heading style.
> 
> I don't know why this happens, I though originally that it was a mistake 
> introduced by the reviewer/author.
> 
> No error in a blank file.
> 
> Olivier
> Untested guess: can it be a consequence of odtclean.py ?
> 
> 
> Em 14/08/2021 12:23, Peter Schofield escreveu:
>> Here is a little problem that you should look out for.
>> When changing text in Heading 1, 2 and 3, direct formatting is directly 
>> applied to the new text. This shows when updating the index for the ToC.
>> The only way to get rid of the error is to highlight the heading and go to 
>> Format > Clear Direct Formatting in the Menu bar.
>> Update the index for the ToC and the formatting error has gone.
>> Could this be a problem in the template or in LibreOffice and has anyone got 
>> a solution?
>> Regards
>> Peter Schofield
>> psaut...@gmail.com
>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Direct formatting in the LO 72 template

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Peter
Yes I noticed that behaviour in the ToC and when I changed color of the 
Heading style.


I don't know why this happens, I though originally that it was a mistake 
introduced by the reviewer/author.


No error in a blank file.

Olivier
Untested guess: can it be a consequence of odtclean.py ?


Em 14/08/2021 12:23, Peter Schofield escreveu:

Here is a little problem that you should look out for.

When changing text in Heading 1, 2 and 3, direct formatting is directly applied 
to the new text. This shows when updating the index for the ToC.
The only way to get rid of the error is to highlight the heading and go to Format 
> Clear Direct Formatting in the Menu bar.
Update the index for the ToC and the formatting error has gone.

Could this be a problem in the template or in LibreOffice and has anyone got a 
solution?

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com
Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team




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[libreoffice-documentation] Direct formatting in the LO 72 template

[Peter Schofield]

Here is a little problem that you should look out for.

When changing text in Heading 1, 2 and 3, direct formatting is directly applied 
to the new text. This shows when updating the index for the ToC.
The only way to get rid of the error is to highlight the heading and go to 
Format > Clear Direct Formatting in the Menu bar.
Update the index for the ToC and the formatting error has gone.

Could this be a problem in the template or in LibreOffice and has anyone got a 
solution?

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com
Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] "Exporting objects" in Draw guide and Help

[Peter Schofield]

Hello Olivier

Will look into the export options when I upgrade the Draw Guide.
You are correct, it is very technical. Maybe beyond the scope for the Draw 
Guide.

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> On 12 Aug 2021, at 23:36, Olivier Hallot  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Team
> 
> The "Exporting object" topic in the Draw Guide (and in the Help) is quite 
> shallow on the use cases of exporting Draw objects.
> 
> Depending on the file format chosen for export, different dialogs pops to set 
> the exporting parameters. For example, quality, compression, encoding, 
> size... All affects the output results.
> 
> Sure, the topic is technical, I leave it here for the records.
> 
> https://books.libreoffice.org/en/DG71/DG7106-EditingPictures.html#toc16
> 
> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-US/text/shared/00/0200.html?=DRAW=UNIX
> 
> Kind regards
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[libreoffice-documentation] "Exporting objects" in Draw guide and Help

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi Team

The "Exporting object" topic in the Draw Guide (and in the Help) is 
quite shallow on the use cases of exporting Draw objects.


Depending on the file format chosen for export, different dialogs pops 
to set the exporting parameters. For example, quality, compression, 
encoding, size... All affects the output results.


Sure, the topic is technical, I leave it here for the records.

https://books.libreoffice.org/en/DG71/DG7106-EditingPictures.html#toc16

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-US/text/shared/00/0200.html?=DRAW=UNIX

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7213-Macros - question

[Jean Weber]

Rafael,
Unless someone else is available earlier, next week is okay. Thank you!
Jean

On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 23:21 Rafael Lima 
wrote:

> Hi Jean,
>
> I volunteer to update the chapter on Macros. However, I'll only be able to
> do it next week. Is that okay?
>
> Cheers,
> Rafael Lima
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 5:53 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> > Olivier or someone,
> > In the status spreadsheet for GS7.2, there is a note for the Macros
> > chapter: "need to add topic for Development tools (OH)".
> > Can you or someone point me to the info that should be included, or
> > will someone add it to the chapter?
> > Thanks.
> > Jean
> >
>

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[libreoffice-documentation] Localization to thai

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Good afternoon, Moderator of libreoffice
I come from Thailand. I Graduated from kmitl, At information technology
faculty.

At today, We use illegal software in many Government institute. Those isn't
good for software industry

I want to localization your document, do you mind, If I translate it to
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Applicare la firma semplice su tutti i formati documenti scritti come writer.....etc o importati in pdf

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Hi Massimo

This mailing list is dedicated to LibreOffice documentation.

For suggestions of new features, please have a look to the page

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Em 09/08/2021 12:00, Massimo Gaudenzi escreveu:

Gentilissimi,
con la presente come da oggetto si suggerisce un modalità per “applicare una 
firma semplice(con sfondo trasparente ) caricata da file su tutti i formati di 
documenti scritti e creati con writer calc….etc o importati ad esempio come i 
pdf.

Nel programma ad ora è possibile solo inserire la firma digitale utilizzando 
writer, ma si deve per forza creare un certificato digitale; si potrebbe 
utilizzare una firma semplice applicabile su tutti i documenti senza la 
necessita di utilizzare per forza un certificato digitale ?

La soluzione potrebbe essere applicata da un file esistente come la firma 
scansionata o fotografata , come già succede in writer però
semplificando la procedura eliminando il certificato,  come ad esempio 
nell’applicazione del Macintosh nell’app “Anteprima”  (allego screenshot).



Tutto questo per evitare i passaggi di salvataggio, stampa, firma/ timbro, 
scansione, salvataggio e invio.
Cordiali saluti Massimo Gaudenzi.





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[libreoffice-documentation] Applicare la firma semplice su tutti i formati documenti scritti come writer.....etc o importati in pdf

[Massimo Gaudenzi]

Gentilissimi, 
con la presente come da oggetto si suggerisce un modalità per “applicare una 
firma semplice(con sfondo trasparente ) caricata da file su tutti i formati di 
documenti scritti e creati con writer calc….etc o importati ad esempio come i 
pdf.

Nel programma ad ora è possibile solo inserire la firma digitale utilizzando 
writer, ma si deve per forza creare un certificato digitale; si potrebbe 
utilizzare una firma semplice applicabile su tutti i documenti senza la 
necessita di utilizzare per forza un certificato digitale ?

La soluzione potrebbe essere applicata da un file esistente come la firma 
scansionata o fotografata , come già succede in writer però
semplificando la procedura eliminando il certificato,  come ad esempio 
nell’applicazione del Macintosh nell’app “Anteprima”  (allego screenshot).



Tutto questo per evitare i passaggi di salvataggio, stampa, firma/ timbro, 
scansione, salvataggio e invio. 
Cordiali saluti Massimo Gaudenzi.



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7213-Macros - question

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Jean,

I volunteer to update the chapter on Macros. However, I'll only be able to
do it next week. Is that okay?

Cheers,
Rafael Lima

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 5:53 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> Olivier or someone,
> In the status spreadsheet for GS7.2, there is a note for the Macros
> chapter: "need to add topic for Development tools (OH)".
> Can you or someone point me to the info that should be included, or
> will someone add it to the chapter?
> Thanks.
> Jean
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[libreoffice-documentation] GS7213-Macros - question

[Jean Weber]

Olivier or someone,
In the status spreadsheet for GS7.2, there is a note for the Macros
chapter: "need to add topic for Development tools (OH)".
Can you or someone point me to the info that should be included, or
will someone add it to the chapter?
Thanks.
Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question about Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2

[Jean Weber]

Steve,
THANK YOU for that clear and detailed explanation. Much appreciated.
Jean

On Sun, 8 Aug 2021 at 21:31 Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> All,
>
> First of all, it is true that the help page does not yet describe the
> revised layout and functionality of the Paste dialog. We will catch up
> soon no doubt.
>
> Similarly the Calc Guide doesn't yet describe the new dialog - I'm
> working on that.
>
> The nice thing about the "Run immediately" checkbox is that if unticked,
> you can press one of the four shortcut buttons to see which combination
> of options on the right hand side of the dialog would apply if that
> short cut button was actioned "for real". In previous versions of the
> software I often wondered which combination of options was equivalent to
> each of the (three) preset buttons.
>
> The default is for the "Run immediately" button to be checked (whenever
> you open the dialog), so that a click on a preset button is actioned
> immediately and the dialog is closed, which is what the experienced used
> would require.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 08/08/2021 09:30, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> > Hi , Ilmari,
> >
> > it it is off it still pastes the content; In both ways the settings and
> > formatting does not get copied (i,e. the font color), but the values do
> get
> > copied. Only if you check Formats in the Paste Special window also the
> > formatting gets pasted.
> >
> > Lp, m.
> >
> > V V ned., 8. avg. 2021 ob 09:08 je oseba Ilmari Lauhakangas <
> > ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> napisala:
> >
> >> On 8.8.2021 9.31, Jean Weber wrote:
> >>> On the Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2 there is a checkbox labeled
> >>> “Run immediately”. It is selected by default. Can someone tell me what
> >>> it does, and what happens if it is not selected? I did some
> >>> experiments and could see no difference. I couldn’t find it in the
> >>> Help. The dialog has been rearranged in v7.2, and this checkbox is
> >>> new, so it is not mentioned in the Calc 7.1 Guide.
> >> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134802#c10
> >>
> >> Quote:
> >> "Run Immediately" off means the button applies settings only)
> >>
> >> Ilmari
> >>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question about Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2

[Steve Fanning]

All,

First of all, it is true that the help page does not yet describe the 
revised layout and functionality of the Paste dialog. We will catch up 
soon no doubt.


Similarly the Calc Guide doesn't yet describe the new dialog - I'm 
working on that.


The nice thing about the "Run immediately" checkbox is that if unticked, 
you can press one of the four shortcut buttons to see which combination 
of options on the right hand side of the dialog would apply if that 
short cut button was actioned "for real". In previous versions of the 
software I often wondered which combination of options was equivalent to 
each of the (three) preset buttons.


The default is for the "Run immediately" button to be checked (whenever 
you open the dialog), so that a click on a preset button is actioned 
immediately and the dialog is closed, which is what the experienced used 
would require.


Regards,

Steve


On 08/08/2021 09:30, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:

Hi , Ilmari,

it it is off it still pastes the content; In both ways the settings and
formatting does not get copied (i,e. the font color), but the values do get
copied. Only if you check Formats in the Paste Special window also the
formatting gets pasted.

Lp, m.

V V ned., 8. avg. 2021 ob 09:08 je oseba Ilmari Lauhakangas <
ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> napisala:


On 8.8.2021 9.31, Jean Weber wrote:

On the Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2 there is a checkbox labeled
“Run immediately”. It is selected by default. Can someone tell me what
it does, and what happens if it is not selected? I did some
experiments and could see no difference. I couldn’t find it in the
Help. The dialog has been rearranged in v7.2, and this checkbox is
new, so it is not mentioned in the Calc 7.1 Guide.

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134802#c10

Quote:
"Run Immediately" off means the button applies settings only)

Ilmari

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question about Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi , Ilmari,

it it is off it still pastes the content; In both ways the settings and
formatting does not get copied (i,e. the font color), but the values do get
copied. Only if you check Formats in the Paste Special window also the
formatting gets pasted.

Lp, m.

V V ned., 8. avg. 2021 ob 09:08 je oseba Ilmari Lauhakangas <
ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> napisala:

> On 8.8.2021 9.31, Jean Weber wrote:
> > On the Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2 there is a checkbox labeled
> > “Run immediately”. It is selected by default. Can someone tell me what
> > it does, and what happens if it is not selected? I did some
> > experiments and could see no difference. I couldn’t find it in the
> > Help. The dialog has been rearranged in v7.2, and this checkbox is
> > new, so it is not mentioned in the Calc 7.1 Guide.
>
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134802#c10
>
> Quote:
> "Run Immediately" off means the button applies settings only)
>
> Ilmari
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question about Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi, Jean,

it is really ambiguous. The tooltip says:

Inserts the contents of the clipboard into the current file in a
format that you can specify.

But this is the default tooltip for the Paste Special window (it also shows
upon the Cancel or OK button etc.).

I still cannot see the point in it. If you do not run it immediately, can
you run it in a week? Or after data is updated?

Lp, m.

V V ned., 8. avg. 2021 ob 08:31 je oseba Jean Weber 
napisala:

> On the Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2 there is a checkbox labeled
> “Run immediately”. It is selected by default. Can someone tell me what
> it does, and what happens if it is not selected? I did some
> experiments and could see no difference. I couldn’t find it in the
> Help. The dialog has been rearranged in v7.2, and this checkbox is
> new, so it is not mentioned in the Calc 7.1 Guide.
> Thank you!
>
> Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question about Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2

[Ilmari Lauhakangas]

On 8.8.2021 9.31, Jean Weber wrote:

On the Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2 there is a checkbox labeled
“Run immediately”. It is selected by default. Can someone tell me what
it does, and what happens if it is not selected? I did some
experiments and could see no difference. I couldn’t find it in the
Help. The dialog has been rearranged in v7.2, and this checkbox is
new, so it is not mentioned in the Calc 7.1 Guide.


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134802#c10

Quote:
"Run Immediately" off means the button applies settings only)

Ilmari

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[libreoffice-documentation] Question about Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2

[Jean Weber]

On the Paste Special dialog in CALC 7.2 there is a checkbox labeled
“Run immediately”. It is selected by default. Can someone tell me what
it does, and what happens if it is not selected? I did some
experiments and could see no difference. I couldn’t find it in the
Help. The dialog has been rearranged in v7.2, and this checkbox is
new, so it is not mentioned in the Calc 7.1 Guide.
Thank you!

Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.2

[Peter Schofield]

Preface and Chapter 1 Introducing Impress for the Impress Guide 7.2 are now in 
the Work in Progress folder on NextCloud ready for the first review and comment.

Chapter 2 the next one.

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of GS7210-PrintExportEmailSign

[kees538]

I have given GS7210-PrintExportEmailSign a first review.

Kees

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[libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at 18:00 UTC

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Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) !

Our documentation team meeting will take place today at 18:00 UTC

We will use the following jitsi  meeting room

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of GS7204-Writer

[kees538]

I have given GS7204-Writer a first review.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.2

[Jean Weber]

Thanks Peter for doing those two chapters so quickly.
Jean

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 at 18:13 Peter Schofield  wrote:

> Revision 1 of Chapter 7 Getting Started with Draw for the the Getting
> Started Guide 7.2 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud.
> Small changes to text, some figures changed for 7.2, and the Sidebar has
> changed slightly.
>
> Regards
> Peter Schofield
> psaut...@gmail.com
> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.2

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Revision 1 of Chapter 7 Getting Started with Draw for the the Getting Started 
Guide 7.2 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud.
Small changes to text, some figures changed for 7.2, and the Sidebar has 
changed slightly.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide 7.2

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Team, Jean

I have done the changes and the cleanup of the files of WG72 WIP folder. 
The changes were carried with track changes disabled and later enabled 
back. The reason is that the changes are "under-the-hood" and did not 
affect contents, therefore avoiding a cluttered track-change management.


The file names were preserved.

I had to write some scripts to avoid long and tiring reformatting typing 
and clicks, and I did a final visual inspection and fixed some (few) 
corner cases of tables, lists and figures issues. If I overlooked any, 
please forgive me. Fixing few misplaced objects - if any - should be 
trivial. Hard part is to run text+objects operation on 22 chapters with 
no mistakes


Kind regards
Olivier


Em 01/08/2021 00:09, Jean Weber escreveu:
All chapters of Writer Guide 7.2 are now in NextCloud, ready for Olivier 
to do his changes to them. After that, I need to replace/update a lot of 
figures, but others can review at any time. I’ve made only a few changes.


I will now return to working on the Getting Started Guide 7.2.

Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Floating sub-toolbars LibreOffice 7.2

[Peter Schofield]

Thanks Ilmari for registering a bug report.

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> On 2 Aug 2021, at 12:03, Ilmari Lauhakangas 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2.8.2021 10.57, Peter Schofield wrote:
>> I am not sure about this, but can someone please advise.
>> Before LO 7.2, I could create a floating sub-toolbars follows:
>> 1. Click on small triangle next to the tool icon.
>> 2. Click at top of the sub-toolbar that opens and drag to create a floating 
>> sub-toolbar.
>> Step 2 is no longer possible in LO 7.2.
>> What is the solution?
> 
> It is a regression and I reported it just now: 
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143688
> 
> Ilmari
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Floating sub-toolbars LibreOffice 7.2

[Ilmari Lauhakangas]

On 2.8.2021 10.57, Peter Schofield wrote:

I am not sure about this, but can someone please advise.

Before LO 7.2, I could create a floating sub-toolbars follows:
1. Click on small triangle next to the tool icon.
2. Click at top of the sub-toolbar that opens and drag to create a floating 
sub-toolbar.

Step 2 is no longer possible in LO 7.2.

What is the solution?


It is a regression and I reported it just now: 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143688


Ilmari

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[libreoffice-documentation] Floating sub-toolbars LibreOffice 7.2

[Peter Schofield]

I am not sure about this, but can someone please advise.

Before LO 7.2, I could create a floating sub-toolbars follows:
1. Click on small triangle next to the tool icon.
2. Click at top of the sub-toolbar that opens and drag to create a floating 
sub-toolbar.

Step 2 is no longer possible in LO 7.2.

What is the solution?

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to list terminology

[Peter Schofield]

Hello again

Why the change of list terminology?

To me, bulleted and numbered lists is the most common terminology used in 
software.
I think this change is unnecessary, but will check.

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> On 2 Aug 2021, at 07:33, Jean Weber  wrote:
> 
> Hello team,
> 
> The release notes don't mention this, but anyone updating user guides
> needs to be aware: list terminology has changed. In some, but not all,
> instances "Numbered" is now "Ordered" and "Bulletted" is now
> "Unordered". Some context menus now have "List" instead of "Bullets
> and Numbering" and "No list" instead of "Numbering off". Paragraph and
> Paragraph Style dialogs have "Outline & List" tab instead of "Outline
> & Numbering" and field names on that tab have changed. There are other
> examples; these are the ones I remember from Writer. You can't do a
> global replace, because in some cases the terms have not changed.
> 
> Peter, I have now changed the terms where they occur in your edited
> copy of the GS with Impress chapter. They'll be in the Draw chapter as
> well.
> 
> Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to list terminology

[Peter Schofield]

OK Jean

Will check the Draw chapter as I review the chapter using the Impress chapter 
as a guide.

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> On 2 Aug 2021, at 07:33, Jean Weber  wrote:
> 
> Hello team,
> 
> The release notes don't mention this, but anyone updating user guides
> needs to be aware: list terminology has changed. In some, but not all,
> instances "Numbered" is now "Ordered" and "Bulletted" is now
> "Unordered". Some context menus now have "List" instead of "Bullets
> and Numbering" and "No list" instead of "Numbering off". Paragraph and
> Paragraph Style dialogs have "Outline & List" tab instead of "Outline
> & Numbering" and field names on that tab have changed. There are other
> examples; these are the ones I remember from Writer. You can't do a
> global replace, because in some cases the terms have not changed.
> 
> Peter, I have now changed the terms where they occur in your edited
> copy of the GS with Impress chapter. They'll be in the Draw chapter as
> well.
> 
> Jean
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[libreoffice-documentation] Changes to list terminology

[Jean Weber]

Hello team,

The release notes don't mention this, but anyone updating user guides
needs to be aware: list terminology has changed. In some, but not all,
instances "Numbered" is now "Ordered" and "Bulletted" is now
"Unordered". Some context menus now have "List" instead of "Bullets
and Numbering" and "No list" instead of "Numbering off". Paragraph and
Paragraph Style dialogs have "Outline & List" tab instead of "Outline
& Numbering" and field names on that tab have changed. There are other
examples; these are the ones I remember from Writer. You can't do a
global replace, because in some cases the terms have not changed.

Peter, I have now changed the terms where they occur in your edited
copy of the GS with Impress chapter. They'll be in the Draw chapter as
well.

Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting started Guide 7.2

[Peter Schofield]

Rev 1 of the Chapter 6 Getting Started with Impress for the Getting Started 
Guide 7.2 is now in the Work In Progress folder on NextCloud.

Small changes throughout the chapter. Figures updated for 7.2. Sidebar has 
changed slightly.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide 7.2

[Jean Weber]

All chapters of Writer Guide 7.2 are now in NextCloud, ready for Olivier to
do his changes to them. After that, I need to replace/update a lot of
figures, but others can review at any time. I’ve made only a few changes.

I will now return to working on the Getting Started Guide 7.2.

Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of GS7203-StylesAndTemplates

[kees538]

I have given GS7203-StylesAndTemplates a first review.

Kees

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Print edition of Draw Guide 7.1

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Team

I have updated the documentation.libreoffice.org page with the link for 
Lulu printed copies as well as the online version of the Draw guide at

https://books.libreoffice.org/en/DG71/DG71.html

I also cleaned all DG71 chapter files and placed them in /7.2/Work in 
progress/ folder with track changes enabled.


Regards

Em 30/07/2021 03:07, Jean Weber escreveu:

Here is the link to the print edition of the Draw Guide 7.1:
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/libreoffice-documentation-team/libreoffice-draw-guide-71/paperback/product-2g22py.html

Jean



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[libreoffice-documentation] Print edition of Draw Guide 7.1

[Jean Weber]

Here is the link to the print edition of the Draw Guide 7.1:
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/libreoffice-documentation-team/libreoffice-draw-guide-71/paperback/product-2g22py.html

Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Paul Sutton]

On 28/07/2021 09:50, Marc Paré wrote:

Congrats on completing the Draw Guide 7.1! Nice!

Once the full family of the GS and Guides V.7.1 I plan on marketing
these to Canadian libraries for their book purchases. We had tried to
organise a project like this before but never really had a full version
of guides ready to market. Having a full family of guides will be more
convincing to the Library purchasing agents.

Cheers,

Marc


Sounds a good idea, I can try and do the same for Libraries Unlimited ( 
who run some of the libraries here in Devon UK)


Either that find out who to contact and then let you know.

Out of interest is the guide for Base and Math being worked on too.?


Paul


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Marc Paré]

Le 2021-07-28 à 06 h 53, Paul Sutton a écrit :
>
>
> On 28/07/2021 09:50, Marc Paré wrote:
>> Congrats on completing the Draw Guide 7.1! Nice!
>>
>> Once the full family of the GS and Guides V.7.1 I plan on marketing
>> these to Canadian libraries for their book purchases. We had tried to
>> organise a project like this before but never really had a full version
>> of guides ready to market. Having a full family of guides will be more
>> convincing to the Library purchasing agents.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Marc
>
> Sounds a good idea, I can try and do the same for Libraries Unlimited
> ( who run some of the libraries here in Devon UK)
>
> Either that find out who to contact and then let you know.
>
> Out of interest is the guide for Base and Math being worked on too.?
>
>
> Paul
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating GS 7.2

[Peter Schofield]

Will do Jean

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> On 27 Jul 2021, at 22:55, Jean Weber  wrote:
> 
> Peter (and everyone else updating GS chapters):
> Please be sure to start with the files in the 7.2 WiP folder. Olivier has 
> made changes to all the GS chapters.
> Jean
> 
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 at 20:14 Peter Schofield  > wrote:
> There is now a complete set of PDF files for the Draw Guide 7.1 on NextCloud 
> in the PDF Files folder.
> 
> Now for the Impress and Draw Guide chapters for the Getting Started Guide 7.2.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Schofield
> psaut...@gmail.com 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Jean Weber]

I just noticed that the front cover image has the wrong logo in the
upper left: it does not say "Community".
I have picked up the revised cover from the Contributor Resources
folder in NextCloud and replaced it in the ODT and PDF.
The revised ODT and PDF of the full book are now on NextCloud.
Jean

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 1:12 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> I'm sorry that I did not have time to check the PDF before the book
> was published. While preparing the file for the printed version, I
> discovered some problems with the page footers (due to some incorrect
> page styles applied), and I also found several unresolved
> cross-references. I have fixed these problems in the full-book ODT,
> regenerated the PDF, and uploaded both to the relevant DG folders
> (Published and DG7.1 PDF Files) in NextCloud.
>
> Jean
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:21 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
> >
> > I will do the printed version within a few days.
> > Would you like me to put the files on the wiki, or will someone else do it?
> > Jean
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:36 PM Olivier Hallot
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Team,
> > >
> > > PLease spread the word in your social media !
> > >
> > > https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/07/27/the-draw-guide-7-1-has-arrived/
> > >
> > > Let's make this widely public with our means!
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Olivier
> > >
> > >
> > > Em 27/07/2021 07:13, Peter Schofield escreveu:
> > > > There is now a complete set of PDF files for the Draw Guide 7.1 on 
> > > > NextCloud in the PDF Files folder.
> > > >
> > > > Now for the Impress and Draw Guide chapters for the Getting Started 
> > > > Guide 7.2.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Peter Schofield
> > > > psaut...@gmail.com
> > > > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Jean Weber]

I'm sorry that I did not have time to check the PDF before the book
was published. While preparing the file for the printed version, I
discovered some problems with the page footers (due to some incorrect
page styles applied), and I also found several unresolved
cross-references. I have fixed these problems in the full-book ODT,
regenerated the PDF, and uploaded both to the relevant DG folders
(Published and DG7.1 PDF Files) in NextCloud.

Jean

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:21 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> I will do the printed version within a few days.
> Would you like me to put the files on the wiki, or will someone else do it?
> Jean
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:36 PM Olivier Hallot
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > PLease spread the word in your social media !
> >
> > https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/07/27/the-draw-guide-7-1-has-arrived/
> >
> > Let's make this widely public with our means!
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> > Em 27/07/2021 07:13, Peter Schofield escreveu:
> > > There is now a complete set of PDF files for the Draw Guide 7.1 on 
> > > NextCloud in the PDF Files folder.
> > >
> > > Now for the Impress and Draw Guide chapters for the Getting Started Guide 
> > > 7.2.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Peter Schofield
> > > psaut...@gmail.com
> > > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Jean Weber]

I will do the printed version within a few days.
Would you like me to put the files on the wiki, or will someone else do it?
Jean

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:36 PM Olivier Hallot
 wrote:
>
> Hi Team,
>
> PLease spread the word in your social media !
>
> https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/07/27/the-draw-guide-7-1-has-arrived/
>
> Let's make this widely public with our means!
>
> Kind regards
>
> Olivier
>
>
> Em 27/07/2021 07:13, Peter Schofield escreveu:
> > There is now a complete set of PDF files for the Draw Guide 7.1 on 
> > NextCloud in the PDF Files folder.
> >
> > Now for the Impress and Draw Guide chapters for the Getting Started Guide 
> > 7.2.
> >
> > Regards
> > Peter Schofield
> > psaut...@gmail.com
> > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
> >
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating GS 7.2

[Jean Weber]

Peter (and everyone else updating GS chapters):
Please be sure to start with the files in the 7.2 WiP folder. Olivier has
made changes to all the GS chapters.
Jean

On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 at 20:14 Peter Schofield  wrote:

> There is now a complete set of PDF files for the Draw Guide 7.1 on
> NextCloud in the PDF Files folder.
>
> Now for the Impress and Draw Guide chapters for the Getting Started Guide
> 7.2.
>
> Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi Team,

PLease spread the word in your social media !

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/07/27/the-draw-guide-7-1-has-arrived/

Let's make this widely public with our means!

Kind regards

Olivier


Em 27/07/2021 07:13, Peter Schofield escreveu:

There is now a complete set of PDF files for the Draw Guide 7.1 on NextCloud in 
the PDF Files folder.

Now for the Impress and Draw Guide chapters for the Getting Started Guide 7.2.

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com
Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team




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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Peter Schofield]

There is now a complete set of PDF files for the Draw Guide 7.1 on NextCloud in 
the PDF Files folder.

Now for the Impress and Draw Guide chapters for the Getting Started Guide 7.2.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 22th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi Steve

Affirmative.

My recommended change is:

Image(screenshot) anchored AS CHARACTER on a paragraph with style "Figure".
Caption added with style "Caption"
Wrapping frame anchored "AS_CHARACTER" on a paragraph with style "Figure".

I have a Basic script that changes the current settings inside a chapter 
to the new. There are corner cases that needs a manual review though.


Regards
Olivier


Em 26/07/2021 17:55, Steve Fanning escreveu:

Hi Olivier,

When you mention "Image anchoring and captions adjusted", are you 
referring to a change in our recommended methods?


Regards,

Steve



On 26/07/2021 03:06, Olivier Hallot wrote:


HI Team

Em 22/07/2021 16:02, Olivier Hallot escreveu:

Topics and Discussion:
  * Update calc guide formatting for 7.2 (SF)
AI:    - Cleanup and create 7.2 folder + covers (OH)


I created the Calc Guide 7.2 chapters in the 7.2 WIP folder.
Files were "cleaned". By Cleand I mean

1) All direct formatting were removed
2) Bullet lists were cleaned
3) Image anchoring and captions adjusted
4) Chapter contents are wrapped in sections in the following schema:

a) SEC_LOGO holds the top chapter image/logo
b) SEC_GUIDE holds the Guide name + version
c) SEC_TITLE holds the chapter title and subtitle
d) SEC_DISPLAYAREA holds from the copyright to end of chapter.

These sections don't affect ODT and PDF output and are important for a 
web output, as displayed in

https://books.libreoffice.org/en/CG71/CG7105-UsingGraphics.html

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 22th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.

[Steve Fanning]

Hi Olivier,

When you mention "Image anchoring and captions adjusted", are you 
referring to a change in our recommended methods?


Regards,

Steve



On 26/07/2021 03:06, Olivier Hallot wrote:


HI Team

Em 22/07/2021 16:02, Olivier Hallot escreveu:

Topics and Discussion:
  * Update calc guide formatting for 7.2 (SF)
AI:    - Cleanup and create 7.2 folder + covers (OH)


I created the Calc Guide 7.2 chapters in the 7.2 WIP folder.
Files were "cleaned". By Cleand I mean

1) All direct formatting were removed
2) Bullet lists were cleaned
3) Image anchoring and captions adjusted
4) Chapter contents are wrapped in sections in the following schema:

a) SEC_LOGO holds the top chapter image/logo
b) SEC_GUIDE holds the Guide name + version
c) SEC_TITLE holds the chapter title and subtitle
d) SEC_DISPLAYAREA holds from the copyright to end of chapter.

These sections don't affect ODT and PDF output and are important for a 
web output, as displayed in

https://books.libreoffice.org/en/CG71/CG7105-UsingGraphics.html

Kind regards


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

[Steve Fanning]

All,

For information I have added a few additional changes to the original 
list, found by inspecting the illustrations in the guide while using the 
software. These have been included in a second version of my note, which 
can be found in NextCloud at 
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/d65q2GHGYJ8Hzft.


Work continues...

Regards,

Steve


On 21/07/2021 16:55, Steve Fanning wrote:

All,

I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an 
initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc 
Guide.


If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud 
at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW.


I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case 
that turns up any other changes to the document.


Regards,

Steve




On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote:

All,

Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start 
preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2.


I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am 
making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the 
changes needed to the text and figures.


I will keep the mailing list informed of progress.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Peter Schofield]

Version 01 of the Draw Guide 7.1 is now in the Work In Progress folder on 
NextCloud ready for its 1st review and comment.

All chapters for the Draw Guide are now in the Published folder.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi,
Draw guide does not have its master document for automatic book assembly
which simplifies the procedure for translated guides, so that would be
great, Olivier.

Lp, m.

V pon., 26. jul. 2021 03:56 je oseba Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> napisala:

> Hello Peter
>
> Do you need help to assemble and generate the Guide? If affirmative, I
> can help you.
>
> Kind regards
> Olivier
>
> Em 25/07/2021 11:36, Peter Schofield escreveu:
> > Appendices A and B of the Draw Guide 7.1 have now been published and are
> in the Published folder on NextCloud.
> >
> > Now to finish the Draw Guide itself.
> >
> >
> > Peter Schofield
> > psaut...@gmail.com
> > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
> >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 22th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi, Olivier,

could you please clean also the finished 7.1 GS guide chapters?

Best regards,
Martin

V pon., 26. jul. 2021 04:06 je oseba Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> napisala:

> HI Team
>
> Em 22/07/2021 16:02, Olivier Hallot escreveu:
> > Topics and Discussion:
> >   * Update calc guide formatting for 7.2 (SF)
> > AI:- Cleanup and create 7.2 folder + covers (OH)
>
> I created the Calc Guide 7.2 chapters in the 7.2 WIP folder.
> Files were "cleaned". By Cleand I mean
>
> 1) All direct formatting were removed
> 2) Bullet lists were cleaned
> 3) Image anchoring and captions adjusted
> 4) Chapter contents are wrapped in sections in the following schema:
>
> a) SEC_LOGO holds the top chapter image/logo
> b) SEC_GUIDE holds the Guide name + version
> c) SEC_TITLE holds the chapter title and subtitle
> d) SEC_DISPLAYAREA holds from the copyright to end of chapter.
>
> These sections don't affect ODT and PDF output and are important for a
> web output, as displayed in
> https://books.libreoffice.org/en/CG71/CG7105-UsingGraphics.html
>
> Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Clickable hyperlinks in indexes & bibliographies

[Vasudev Narayanan]

Greetings - I second your opinion. The index entry and bibliography are still 
not clickable. 
Thank you-Dev


-Original Message-
From: Jean Weber 
To: LibreOffice Documentation 
Sent: Sun, Jul 25, 2021 7:34 am
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Clickable hyperlinks in indexes & 
bibliographies

The Release Notes for LOv7.2 include for Writer "Alphabetical indexes,
tables of contents and user-defined indexes will now generate
clickable hyperlinks to document index entry marks" but I cannot
figure out how to make this work for indexes.

Similarly, bibliography improvements include "clickable URLs in the
bibliography table" but it does not work for me.

I have tried on both macOS and Windows 10. I must be missing a setting
somewhere. Please help!

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 22th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.

[Olivier Hallot]

HI Team

Em 22/07/2021 16:02, Olivier Hallot escreveu:

Topics and Discussion:
  * Update calc guide formatting for 7.2 (SF)
AI:    - Cleanup and create 7.2 folder + covers (OH)


I created the Calc Guide 7.2 chapters in the 7.2 WIP folder.
Files were "cleaned". By Cleand I mean

1) All direct formatting were removed
2) Bullet lists were cleaned
3) Image anchoring and captions adjusted
4) Chapter contents are wrapped in sections in the following schema:

a) SEC_LOGO holds the top chapter image/logo
b) SEC_GUIDE holds the Guide name + version
c) SEC_TITLE holds the chapter title and subtitle
d) SEC_DISPLAYAREA holds from the copyright to end of chapter.

These sections don't affect ODT and PDF output and are important for a 
web output, as displayed in

https://books.libreoffice.org/en/CG71/CG7105-UsingGraphics.html

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Peter

Do you need help to assemble and generate the Guide? If affirmative, I 
can help you.


Kind regards
Olivier

Em 25/07/2021 11:36, Peter Schofield escreveu:

Appendices A and B of the Draw Guide 7.1 have now been published and are in the 
Published folder on NextCloud.

Now to finish the Draw Guide itself.


Peter Schofield
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Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team




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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Peter Schofield]

Appendices A and B of the Draw Guide 7.1 have now been published and are in the 
Published folder on NextCloud.

Now to finish the Draw Guide itself.


Peter Schofield
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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Peter Schofield]

Chapters 10, 11 and 12 of the Draw Guide 7.1 have now been published and are in 
th ePublished folder on NextCloud.

Nearly finished.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Clickable hyperlinks in indexes & bibliographies

[Jean Weber]

The Release Notes for LOv7.2 include for Writer "Alphabetical indexes,
tables of contents and user-defined indexes will now generate
clickable hyperlinks to document index entry marks" but I cannot
figure out how to make this work for indexes.

Similarly, bibliography improvements include "clickable URLs in the
bibliography table" but it does not work for me.

I have tried on both macOS and Windows 10. I must be missing a setting
somewhere. Please help!

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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Peter Schofield]

Chapters 8 and 9 of the Draw Guide 7.1 have been published and are now in the 
Published folder on NextCloud.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

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Preface and Chapters 1 thru 7 for the Draw Guide 7.1 have been published and 
are now in the Published folder on NextCloud.

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of GS7202-SettingUpLO.odt

[kees538]

I have given GS7202-SettingUpLO.odt a first review.

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of GS7201-IntroducingLO

[kees538]

I have given GS7201-IntroducingLO a first review.

@Jean: I did not replace te image (yet).
See my answer.
If you want me to replace it, please let me know.

Greetings,
Kees

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of GS7200-Preface

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I have given GS7200-Preface a first review.
I could not answer the question though.

Kees

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[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 22th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.

[Olivier Hallot]

Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 22th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.

Presents:Steve Fanning, Olivier

Telegram-group
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TDF Jitsi
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Completed items:
   + Open badges (OH)

Pending items:
AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp
+ Will review and enhance it (Dave)
AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH)

News:
Topics and Discussion:
 * Update calc guide formatting for 7.2 (SF)
AI:- Cleanup and create 7.2 folder + covers (OH)
 * Can we add links from Calc guide to wiki
   - Yes, will improve contents (OH)
 * Add QR code to add in Calc guide? (SF)
- Already described in GS Ch 10 (Printing, exporting...)
- Borrow from GS
 * Column layout in calc text boxes?
- Mention where appropriate
 * Write Help/Wiki pages on new features for 7.2
- Search command dialog
- Styles inspector improvements
- Developers tools - Object Inspector
   - Rafael Lima (docs) and Hossein Nourikhah (TDF) are on it
 * Help pages on new 7.2 features
- Open Help bugs on many new features(OH)
- Some of the 7.2 improvements already registered and addressed
 * User interface
   - Need description contents for UI for Calc (SF)
  - Borrow from writer guide descriptions(OH)
 * General
   + Too much revision may lead to pedantic changes
   + Shorten revision cycles for docs with very few/zero changes

Meeting ajourned

Next meeting : *THURSDAY* August 5th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.

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[libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at 18:00 UTC

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Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) !

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

[Vasudev Narayanan]

Thank you, Steve, for the document. 
Thank you-Dev


-Original Message-
From: Steve Fanning 
To: LibreOffice Documentation 
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2021 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

All,

I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an 
initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide.

If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at 
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW.

I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case 
that turns up any other changes to the document.

Regards,

Steve




On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote:
> All,
>
> Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start 
> preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2.
>
> I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am 
> making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the 
> changes needed to the text and figures.
>
> I will keep the mailing list informed of progress.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Jean Weber]

Reviewed and returned Chapter 7, 3D Objects.
This completes my reviews of chapters and appendixes in this book. I
have updated the status spreadsheet.
Jean

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:29 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> Reviewed and returned Chapter 6, Editing Pictures.
> Now working on Chapter 7, 3D Objects.
> Jean
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 4:18 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
> >
> > Reviewed and returned Chapter 4, Changing Object Attributes.
> > Jean
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 6:26 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
> > >
> > > Reviewed and returned Appendix B.
> > > Jean
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:47 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Reviewed and returned Appendix A.
> > > > Jean
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 11:02 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll take a quick look at Appendix A and B.
> > > > > Jean
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 6:05 PM Peter Schofield  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All chapters of the Draw Guide 7.1 have now been reviewed at least 
> > > > > > once.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Appendices A and B have not been reviewed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do I now start to publish the chapters so that we have a complete 
> > > > > > and published Draw guide 7.1?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Peter Schofield
> > > > > > psaut...@gmail.com
> > > > > > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Jean Weber]

Reviewed and returned Chapter 6, Editing Pictures.
Now working on Chapter 7, 3D Objects.
Jean

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 4:18 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> Reviewed and returned Chapter 4, Changing Object Attributes.
> Jean
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 6:26 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
> >
> > Reviewed and returned Appendix B.
> > Jean
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:47 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
> > >
> > > Reviewed and returned Appendix A.
> > > Jean
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 11:02 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'll take a quick look at Appendix A and B.
> > > > Jean
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 6:05 PM Peter Schofield  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > All chapters of the Draw Guide 7.1 have now been reviewed at least 
> > > > > once.
> > > > >
> > > > > Appendices A and B have not been reviewed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do I now start to publish the chapters so that we have a complete and 
> > > > > published Draw guide 7.1?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Peter Schofield
> > > > > psaut...@gmail.com
> > > > > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team

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[libreoffice-documentation] GS7205 - Calc

[Vasudev Narayanan]

Greetings -
I am uploading the GS7205 - Calc document in the WIP folder with review 
comments enabled. We might need to revisit the document while updating the Calc 
guide. 
Thank you-Dev
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

[Steve Fanning]

All,

I have completed a review of the 7.2 Release Notes and collated an 
initial list of the changes that I believe are required to the Calc Guide.


If anybody is interested, this initial list can be found in NextCloud at 
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wGG24424DknNgtW.


I now need to compare the 7.1 Calc Guide to the 7.2 software, in case 
that turns up any other changes to the document.


Regards,

Steve




On 15/07/2021 10:26, Steve Fanning wrote:

All,

Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start 
preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2.


I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am 
making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the 
changes needed to the text and figures.


I will keep the mailing list informed of progress.

Regards,

Steve





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[libreoffice-documentation] Missed reference.

[Василий Чай]

Hi,

I found a missed reference in the tip section on the bottom of page 205 
in LibreOffice 7.1 Writer Guide. I don't know where to write, so 
apologies if I used this mail list incorrectly.


Best regards,
Basil Chai.


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[libreoffice-documentation] Mistake help site macro

[Carl Wellhöfer]

Hi,


I think there is a mistake in the following help site.

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-GB/text/swriter/01/05060700.html

In the section "To access this command" is written "Choose Tools -
ImageMap - open context menu Macro". But there is no context menu
available where you can choose macro unless you create a clickable hotspot.
There should be a note which point to this requirement in this case.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.1

[Jean Weber]

Reviewed and returned Chapter 4, Changing Object Attributes.
Jean

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 6:26 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> Reviewed and returned Appendix B.
> Jean
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:47 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
> >
> > Reviewed and returned Appendix A.
> > Jean
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 11:02 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll take a quick look at Appendix A and B.
> > > Jean
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 6:05 PM Peter Schofield  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All chapters of the Draw Guide 7.1 have now been reviewed at least once.
> > > >
> > > > Appendices A and B have not been reviewed.
> > > >
> > > > Do I now start to publish the chapters so that we have a complete and 
> > > > published Draw guide 7.1?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Peter Schofield
> > > > psaut...@gmail.com
> > > > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

[Felipe Viggiano de Souza]

Hi Steve,

Once again, thank you very much for this!

Unfortunately, right now I'm having a little trouble to find some extra 
time to dedicate to the project, but I'm positive that in a couple of 
months thing will get calmer, and then I'm intended to get some chapters 
to review!



Best regards,

Felipe Viggiano


Em 15/07/2021 06:26, Steve Fanning escreveu:


All,

Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start 
preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2.


I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am 
making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the 
changes needed to the text and figures.


I will keep the mailing list informed of progress.

Regards,

Steve





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides Bullet List cleanup

[Olivier Hallot]

Thanks Pierre and Rafael for the help on cleaning the list styles

For the record, the small piece of code is
8<--
Sub CleanListStyles
  Dim sFamilies as Variant
  sFamily = ThisComponent.StyleFamilies.getByName("ParagraphStyles")
  Dim newStyle as Object
  Set newStyle = 
ThisComponent.CreateInstance("com.sun.star.style.ParagraphStyle")'

  newStyle.ParentStyle = "Standard"
  sFamily.insertByName("olivier_dummy", newStyle)
  CleanExtraBullet("List 1", "olivier_dummy")
  CleanExtraBullet("List 2", "olivier_dummy")
  CleanExtraBullet("Heading Caution", "olivier_dummy")
  CleanExtraBullet("Heading Tip", "olivier_dummy")
  CleanExtraBullet("Heading Note", "olivier_dummy")
  sFamily.removeByName("olivier_dummy")
msgbox "Finished"
End sub
8<--

where CleanExtraBullet() is the macro recording that Pierre suggested.

I am cleaning the source files of Getting Started 7.2

Regards
Olivier


Em 15/07/2021 05:50, pierre-yves.samyn escreveu:

Hi

I think you can do the macro by recording:

- Search & replace the List1 paragraph style with an unused style (e.g. 
Content10)

- Search for all paragraphs in Content10
- Apply the numbering via the toolbar
- Remove numbering via the toolbar
- Replace the paragraph style Contents10 with List1

Best regards

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[libreoffice-documentation] Guides Bullet List cleanup

[pierre-yves.samyn]

Hi

I think you can do the macro by recording:

- Search & replace the List1 paragraph style with an unused style (e.g. 
Content10)

- Search for all paragraphs in Content10
- Apply the numbering via the toolbar
- Remove numbering via the toolbar
- Replace the paragraph style Contents10 with List1

Best regards

Pierre-Yves SAMYN


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

[Vasudev Narayanan]

Thank you, Steve. It will be more than sufficient. 
Thank you so very much.
Regards-Dev




-Original Message-
From: Steve Fanning 
To: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

Hi Dev,

My intention is to produce a Writer document that lists any required 
changes, by chapter. When complete this document will be available to 
all via NextCloud.

This approach is intended to help us to more easily update affected 
chapters and, hopefully, simplify review requirements (and timescales). 
It will also facilitate the production of a more user-friendly 
description of the changes in the "What’s new in LibreOffice Calc 7.2 
Community" section of the Preface (as suggested at the recent team meeting).

I have no plans to formally track the document changes through Bugzilla.

Regards,

Steve


On 15/07/2021 12:16, Vasudev Narayanan wrote:
> Greetings Steve: A quick question - Will you open a tracker to include all 
> the items?
> Thank you-Dev
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Fanning 
> To: LibreOffice Documentation 
> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 2:56 pm
> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2
>
> All,
>
> Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start
> preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2.
>
> I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am
> making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the
> changes needed to the text and figures.
>
> I will keep the mailing list informed of progress.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

[Vasudev Narayanan]

Greetings Steve: A quick question - Will you open a tracker to include all the 
items? 
Thank you-Dev


-Original Message-
From: Steve Fanning 
To: LibreOffice Documentation 
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 2:56 pm
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

All,

Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start 
preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2.

I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am 
making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the 
changes needed to the text and figures.

I will keep the mailing list informed of progress.

Regards,

Steve



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

[Steve Fanning]

Hi Dev,

My intention is to produce a Writer document that lists any required 
changes, by chapter. When complete this document will be available to 
all via NextCloud.


This approach is intended to help us to more easily update affected 
chapters and, hopefully, simplify review requirements (and timescales). 
It will also facilitate the production of a more user-friendly 
description of the changes in the "What’s new in LibreOffice Calc 7.2 
Community" section of the Preface (as suggested at the recent team meeting).


I have no plans to formally track the document changes through Bugzilla.

Regards,

Steve


On 15/07/2021 12:16, Vasudev Narayanan wrote:

Greetings Steve: A quick question - Will you open a tracker to include all the 
items?
Thank you-Dev


-Original Message-
From: Steve Fanning 
To: LibreOffice Documentation 
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 2:56 pm
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

All,

Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start
preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2.

I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am
making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the
changes needed to the text and figures.

I will keep the mailing list informed of progress.

Regards,

Steve





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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2

[Steve Fanning]

All,

Now that RC1 of LO 7.2 Community is available, it is time to start 
preparing an update to the Calc Guide for 7.2.


I have spoken with Felipe Viggiano and he is busy at present, so I am 
making a start on this update by collating a detailed list of the 
changes needed to the text and figures.


I will keep the mailing list informed of progress.

Regards,

Steve



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides Bullet List cleanup

[Olivier Hallot]

Thanks Rafael.

The issue is a bit more complex, possibly a bug or enhancement bug. More 
details in


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139693

What happens is that a list is direct-applied over the paragraph style 
which already has the same list style as property.


To say in other words, like applying direct bold character Ctrl+B to a 
word which char style is already bold.


"Clean direct formatting" does not catch direct list formatting.

With your sample code, iterating on paragraphs, the challenge is to 
catch this list direct-formatting.


OLivier


Em 14/07/2021 16:26, Rafael Lima escreveu:

Hi Olivier,

The following macro will iterate over all paragraphs and remove all of the
items that contain empty strings (both in numbered and bulleted lists).

Sub RemoveEmptyItems
  Dim oEnum, oPar
  oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.CreateEnumeration()
  Do While oEnum.HasMoreElements()
   oPar = oEnum.NextElement()
   nsName = oPar.NumberingStyleName
   If nsName <> "" Then
parText = oPar.GetString()
If parText = "" Then
 'This is reached if the list has an entry that is empty
 ThisComponent.Text.RemoveTextContent(oPar)
End If
   End If
  Loop
End Sub


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:31 PM Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:


Hi...

The situation is illustrated in the document below

https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/8YceNLp9Jy43by3

Olivier


Em 14/07/2021 12:19, Olivier Hallot escreveu:

Hi

I am looking to some clue/Basic code to detect and correct paragraphs
with bullet lists which have an extra, overlaying bullet applied.

In all guides, we use Paragraph styles List 1 and List 2  which are
connected to list styles Bullet * and Bullet - respectively.

However in many lists in the Guides there are often another bullet (* or
-) over the List 1 or 2 paragraph bullet. There no visual indication
when editing the chapters, and no problem in printing or exporting to
PDF. But when changing some para style attribute, the extra bullet pops.

The current trick I use is to select the set of bullet list paragraphs,
apply temporary the BodyText style (then the extra bullet shows), remove
the extra bullet and re-apply the para list style. That must be done in
every list in the text which is rather exhausting.

if no extra bullet pops, then I press Ctrl+Z to undo the temporary

change.


Has anybody a couple of Basic lines to detect and remove the extra
bullet? At least I'd like to know how to catch and delete this extra
bullet.

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides Bullet List cleanup

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Olivier,

The following macro will iterate over all paragraphs and remove all of the
items that contain empty strings (both in numbered and bulleted lists).

Sub RemoveEmptyItems
 Dim oEnum, oPar
 oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.CreateEnumeration()
 Do While oEnum.HasMoreElements()
  oPar = oEnum.NextElement()
  nsName = oPar.NumberingStyleName
  If nsName <> "" Then
   parText = oPar.GetString()
   If parText = "" Then
'This is reached if the list has an entry that is empty
ThisComponent.Text.RemoveTextContent(oPar)
   End If
  End If
 Loop
End Sub


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:31 PM Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> Hi...
>
> The situation is illustrated in the document below
>
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/8YceNLp9Jy43by3
>
> Olivier
>
>
> Em 14/07/2021 12:19, Olivier Hallot escreveu:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am looking to some clue/Basic code to detect and correct paragraphs
> > with bullet lists which have an extra, overlaying bullet applied.
> >
> > In all guides, we use Paragraph styles List 1 and List 2  which are
> > connected to list styles Bullet * and Bullet - respectively.
> >
> > However in many lists in the Guides there are often another bullet (* or
> > -) over the List 1 or 2 paragraph bullet. There no visual indication
> > when editing the chapters, and no problem in printing or exporting to
> > PDF. But when changing some para style attribute, the extra bullet pops.
> >
> > The current trick I use is to select the set of bullet list paragraphs,
> > apply temporary the BodyText style (then the extra bullet shows), remove
> > the extra bullet and re-apply the para list style. That must be done in
> > every list in the text which is rather exhausting.
> >
> > if no extra bullet pops, then I press Ctrl+Z to undo the temporary
> change.
> >
> > Has anybody a couple of Basic lines to detect and remove the extra
> > bullet? At least I'd like to know how to catch and delete this extra
> > bullet.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS72013 - Macros

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Olivier,

I volunteer to write the help page about the new Development Tools feature.
After I finish the page, I'll update the chapter on Macros in the GS guide.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:21 AM Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> LO 7.2 introduced a new tool related to macros at "Tools - Development
> tools".
>
> No help pages yet written but some pointers are available at
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.2#Core_.2F_General
>
> Although the topic is very technical, it worth to introduce it in the
> Guide for further reading.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.2 - Review

[Vasudev Narayanan]

Greetings - The GS7212-Html Pages guide is in the WIP folder after reviewing. 
Thank you-Dev


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Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide 7.2 - Review

Greetings - I am checking out GS7212-HTML Pages. I have updated the spreadsheet.
Thank you-Dev



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides Bullet List cleanup

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi...

The situation is illustrated in the document below

https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/8YceNLp9Jy43by3

Olivier


Em 14/07/2021 12:19, Olivier Hallot escreveu:

Hi

I am looking to some clue/Basic code to detect and correct paragraphs 
with bullet lists which have an extra, overlaying bullet applied.


In all guides, we use Paragraph styles List 1 and List 2  which are 
connected to list styles Bullet * and Bullet - respectively.


However in many lists in the Guides there are often another bullet (* or 
-) over the List 1 or 2 paragraph bullet. There no visual indication 
when editing the chapters, and no problem in printing or exporting to 
PDF. But when changing some para style attribute, the extra bullet pops.


The current trick I use is to select the set of bullet list paragraphs, 
apply temporary the BodyText style (then the extra bullet shows), remove 
the extra bullet and re-apply the para list style. That must be done in 
every list in the text which is rather exhausting.


if no extra bullet pops, then I press Ctrl+Z to undo the temporary change.

Has anybody a couple of Basic lines to detect and remove the extra 
bullet? At least I'd like to know how to catch and delete this extra 
bullet.


Thanks in advance.

Kind regards



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