Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On 7/6/2011 7:23 AM, David Nelson wrote: Hi Gary, On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com wrote: I generally park things being worked on in one or another of my (mostly way incomplete) forum websites. The forums serve as chronicles of sorts, so that I know where the stuff was parked, plus copious notes and such in topic messages. Also, anybody (registered...) could comment on them, although I generally do not make notice much of any forum, other than an e-mail signature or rare explicit links from e-mails. The revised template was parked there recently, and can be accessed at: LO templates http://technicaleditor.livernoisyard.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24t=56, where the template and its AutoText BAU file can be downloaded. Alfresco is where we are *currently* storing work in progress... Do I have your permission to retrieve the aforementioned template file and upload it to Alfresco? Do you release your file under the LGPL3? Yes, you (meaning, anybody) have my permission to retrieve and utilize the revised LO template stored on any of my websites, including the one containing the LO template previously linked to in a message a few days ago. However, I made no explicit effort for releasing my files under LGPL3. I will likely employ Alfresco for the completed version, though. If LO docs people would care to employ a better template, I suggest that a improved template (like mine provided with no strings attached) be employed instead of the current form, which is OK, but which contains errors and such. Still others errors, such as some confusion still lingering on in the template exposition pertaining to the use of the list paragraph style also will be made before I deemed it completed. In the interim, anybody is free to use my LO template version or to comment on the changes made so far, in addition to those changes that will follow, whenever I get around to them. No permission need be asked for employing anything of mine that I park on my own personal websites. Especially after I made them available previously. Eventually, I will remove any OOo and LO branding info from my revised OOo/LO templates, upon which I provided much design input during the past five years, in order to produce a generic, standard template that most anybody could employ for their own personal or organizational use. Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi :) How about if we sold LibreOffice on usb-sticks that could be read by Windows? Would it be paranoid to think that MS might bother to chase to chase us if we did that? Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 8 July, 2011 8:20:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice On 7/6/2011 9:26 PM, planas wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 06:55 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) Lol. Why all this change of direction? and why did this suddenly occur moments AFTER Jean left for a couple of weeks? Ignoring the advice of legal experts based on a quick read of a children's fairy story does not make any sense to me. From a quick google search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom_%282008,_USA%29 MS sued a company for using fat32, not even the more advanced Ntfs, and won. Fat32 is pretty much the standard system used by the vast majority of people on external storage devices. Being unaware of court actions and being unaware of the strategy MS uses (such as buying-up software patents) does not make us safe from those issues. It would be really paranoid to think that Gary might be an MS employee but he is using fairly standard tactics that would normally be designed by a competitor to disrupt a community-led group. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/07/05/2012229/Microsofts-Hottest-New-Profit-Center-Android?utm_source=slashdotutm_medium=twitter r rday Unless someone is willing to spend the time and money to properly research the US legal issues, the safest course is avoid any chance of putting us into a possible legal crosshairs. I have neither. The problem is that no one has come forward who is US attorney and knowledgeable on software related issues to advise us. MS could consider LO as a direct competitor to MSO and thus would look for our legal blunders committed out of ignorance of US law. It may be more tedious for us to make sure our screenshots do not show anything that would imply a Windows OS but it is safer. I doubt any Linux distro would be upset if their desktop was identifiable in one of our screenshots. In fact a subtle plug could made by saying all the screenshots were made on various Linux distros. Many Windows users think we are command line using dinosaurs and would be surprised to see a vaguely familiar desktop. One would have to be extremely paranoid to even think that Microsoft would bother suing anybody or any organization over any screenshots with the Windows XP theme appearing in any non-MS documents. (Most people, even Microsoft, have lives...) Especially considering that Windows XP is nearly a decade old and is not even officially supported by Microsoft any longer, as MS considers Windows XP as being economically obsolete, for sales purposes. Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On 7/8/2011 3:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) How about if we sold LibreOffice on usb-sticks that could be read by Windows? Would it be paranoid to think that MS might bother to chase to chase us if we did that? Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 8 July, 2011 8:20:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice On 7/6/2011 9:26 PM, planas wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 06:55 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) Lol. Why all this change of direction? and why did this suddenly occur moments AFTER Jean left for a couple of weeks? Ignoring the advice of legal experts based on a quick read of a children's fairy story does not make any sense to me. From a quick google search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom_%282008,_USA%29 MS sued a company for using fat32, not even the more advanced Ntfs, and won. Fat32 is pretty much the standard system used by the vast majority of people on external storage devices. Being unaware of court actions and being unaware of the strategy MS uses (such as buying-up software patents) does not make us safe from those issues. It would be really paranoid to think that Gary might be an MS employee but he is using fairly standard tactics that would normally be designed by a competitor to disrupt a community-led group. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/07/05/2012229/Microsofts-Hottest-New-Profit-Center-Android?utm_source=slashdotutm_medium=twitter r rday Unless someone is willing to spend the time and money to properly research the US legal issues, the safest course is avoid any chance of putting us into a possible legal crosshairs. I have neither. The problem is that no one has come forward who is US attorney and knowledgeable on software related issues to advise us. MS could consider LO as a direct competitor to MSO and thus would look for our legal blunders committed out of ignorance of US law. It may be more tedious for us to make sure our screenshots do not show anything that would imply a Windows OS but it is safer. I doubt any Linux distro would be upset if their desktop was identifiable in one of our screenshots. In fact a subtle plug could made by saying all the screenshots were made on various Linux distros. Many Windows users think we are command line using dinosaurs and would be surprised to see a vaguely familiar desktop. One would have to be extremely paranoid to even think that Microsoft would bother suing anybody or any organization over any screenshots with the Windows XP theme appearing in any non-MS documents. (Most people, even Microsoft, have lives...) Especially considering that Windows XP is nearly a decade old and is not even officially supported by Microsoft any longer, as MS considers Windows XP as being economically obsolete, for sales purposes. Gary Microsoft, like other older established (considered to be a dinosaur, to some folk) IT firms, is far more concerned about its remaining economically relevant in the marketplace in near future than in its wasting any time and effort concerning such trifles as screenshots.showing the obsolete Windows XP theme appearing in third-party documents. After all, there are literally millions (billions?) of such screen captures to be found nearly everywhere on the planet. Yet not a real peep from Microsoft other than standard, routine boilerplate legalese (found virtually everywhere on copyright pages). My common-sense take on this (non)issue is that Microsoft would actually not object to any such public exposure of their GUI than in suppressing it, as it provides free advertising for the (now-obsolete) product. Ditto for Apple. Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi :) Lol. Why all this change of direction? and why did this suddenly occur moments AFTER Jean left for a couple of weeks? Ignoring the advice of legal experts based on a quick read of a children's fairy story does not make any sense to me. From a quick google search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom_%282008,_USA%29 MS sued a company for using fat32, not even the more advanced Ntfs, and won. Fat32 is pretty much the standard system used by the vast majority of people on external storage devices. Being unaware of court actions and being unaware of the strategy MS uses (such as buying-up software patents) does not make us safe from those issues. It would be really paranoid to think that Gary might be an MS employee but he is using fairly standard tactics that would normally be designed by a competitor to disrupt a community-led group. Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 6 July, 2011 8:11:19 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice As you seem to be a current worker bee, you might want to examine the work-in-process, revised version 3.3.3 chapter template that I am working on. It contains edit tracking of the changes so far, plus some comments that were inserted via the Insert menu. You can then see how an edited version of a document should appear. My defaults for edit tracking are to employ green underlines for additions, red strike-throughs for deletions, and bold blue for most format changes. Some format changes do not show up in the edit changes with LO or OOo. So, for those that do not appear, an editor should employ comments, which will appear at the right side of the document. Some of those untracked changes are those involved with vertical table alignment, for example. In the event you want to move material around in a document being edited, plus use edit-tracking on a moved paragraph, entire subsection, or whatever, there are two ways to do that. (1) Employ two versions of the document, with edit tracking employed in each document--make the edits in the first, and afterward move the material in the second document. (2) The second means is to turn off edit tracking for the moves and afterward restore edit tracking again. Then, use comments to describe just what got moved and from where. The point to remember is that if you move content after it was edit tracked, the move will destroy the edit-tracked changes (accepts them, by default). That may not be desirable. I generally park things being worked on in one or another of my (mostly way incomplete) forum websites. The forums serve as chronicles of sorts, so that I know where the stuff was parked, plus copious notes and such in topic messages. Also, anybody (registered...) could comment on them, although I generally do not make notice much of any forum, other than an e-mail signature or rare explicit links from e-mails. The revised template was parked there recently, and can be accessed at: LO templates http://technicaleditor.livernoisyard.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24t=56, where the template and its AutoText BAU file can be downloaded. Gary On 7/5/2011 12:24 PM, Jaimon Jacob wrote: Hi, Yeah. I should have gone through it more carefully. I got it now, but I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. Regards, Jaimon From: Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com The OOo/LO template exposition concerning the contributor names included the advice to use Shit+Enter (similar tobr / in XHTML) as a forced line break between names, so that question of the original poster need not have been made--assuming that the instructions in the template exposition were followed. But again, there is no harm in asking... As to pasting: the unformatted paste (Ctrl+Shift+V) is often more useful when pasting the clipboard contents from different documents, especially if different apps were used. Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Quoting Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) Lol. Why all this change of direction? and why did this suddenly occur moments AFTER Jean left for a couple of weeks? Ignoring the advice of legal experts based on a quick read of a children's fairy story does not make any sense to me. From a quick google search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom_%282008,_USA%29 MS sued a company for using fat32, not even the more advanced Ntfs, and won. Fat32 is pretty much the standard system used by the vast majority of people on external storage devices. Being unaware of court actions and being unaware of the strategy MS uses (such as buying-up software patents) does not make us safe from those issues. It would be really paranoid to think that Gary might be an MS employee but he is using fairly standard tactics that would normally be designed by a competitor to disrupt a community-led group. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/07/05/2012229/Microsofts-Hottest-New-Profit-Center-Android?utm_source=slashdotutm_medium=twitter rday -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi Gary, On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com wrote: I generally park things being worked on in one or another of my (mostly way incomplete) forum websites. The forums serve as chronicles of sorts, so that I know where the stuff was parked, plus copious notes and such in topic messages. Also, anybody (registered...) could comment on them, although I generally do not make notice much of any forum, other than an e-mail signature or rare explicit links from e-mails. The revised template was parked there recently, and can be accessed at: LO templates http://technicaleditor.livernoisyard.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24t=56, where the template and its AutoText BAU file can be downloaded. Alfresco is where we are *currently* storing work in progress... Do I have your permission to retrieve the aforementioned template file and upload it to Alfresco? Do you release your file under the LGPL3? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi :) Shift and Enter compared to just Enter is a standard cross-platform feature in many many different apps. It's not specific to LibreOffice. It's a bit like knowing that Ctrl V pastes. 'Everyone' knows it. I only found out about it a few months ago. Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 4:32:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice On 7/4/2011 4:39 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Use Shift+Enter for a line break, not a new paragraph. --Jean On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 04:17, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Tried my best, but I could not add my name to the contributor list.. :-) When I do an Enter, it always go down one space extra... Thanks That point should still be explicitly described in the exposition that is contained in all the various flavors of templates, no? Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
The OOo/LO template exposition concerning the contributor names included the advice to use Shit+Enter (similar to br / in XHTML) as a forced line break between names, so that question of the original poster need not have been made--assuming that the instructions in the template exposition were followed. But again, there is no harm in asking... As to pasting: the unformatted paste (Ctrl+Shift+V) is often more useful when pasting the clipboard contents from different documents, especially if different apps were used. Gary On 7/5/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Shift and Enter compared to just Enter is a standard cross-platform feature in many many different apps. It's not specific to LibreOffice. It's a bit like knowing that Ctrl V pastes. 'Everyone' knows it. I only found out about it a few months ago. Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 4:32:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice On 7/4/2011 4:39 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Use Shift+Enter for a line break, not a new paragraph. --Jean On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 04:17, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Tried my best, but I could not add my name to the contributor list.. :-) When I do an Enter, it always go down one space extra... Thanks That point should still be explicitly described in the exposition that is contained in all the various flavors of templates, no? Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi, Yeah. I should have gone through it more carefully. I got it now, but I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. Regards, Jaimon - Original Message - From: Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice The OOo/LO template exposition concerning the contributor names included the advice to use Shit+Enter (similar to br / in XHTML) as a forced line break between names, so that question of the original poster need not have been made--assuming that the instructions in the template exposition were followed. But again, there is no harm in asking... As to pasting: the unformatted paste (Ctrl+Shift+V) is often more useful when pasting the clipboard contents from different documents, especially if different apps were used. Gary On 7/5/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Shift and Enter compared to just Enter is a standard cross-platform feature in many many different apps. It's not specific to LibreOffice. It's a bit like knowing that Ctrl V pastes. 'Everyone' knows it. I only found out about it a few months ago. Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 4:32:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice On 7/4/2011 4:39 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Use Shift+Enter for a line break, not a new paragraph. --Jean On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 04:17, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Tried my best, but I could not add my name to the contributor list.. :-) When I do an Enter, it always go down one space extra... Thanks That point should still be explicitly described in the exposition that is contained in all the various flavors of templates, no? Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi Jaimon, On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. I should have gone through it more carefully. I got it now, but I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. I don't see any particular reason to do anything to Song Chuan's work... Unless you have a particular idea in mind? If not, the idea would simply be to continue working on what is left to be done. That would be my 2 cents... @Song Chuan: Song Chuan, would you have any comments or suggestions? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi :) +1 Even tho it might not be the theme we eventually agreed on at least they are not Windows screen-shots so there is no real need to change them this time. The Windows xp theme is the silver(ish) one on Ubuntu? Regards from Tom :) From: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 20:15:48 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice Hi Jaimon, On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. I should have gone through it more carefully. I got it now, but I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. I don't see any particular reason to do anything to Song Chuan's work... Unless you have a particular idea in mind? If not, the idea would simply be to continue working on what is left to be done. That would be my 2 cents... @Song Chuan: Song Chuan, would you have any comments or suggestions? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On 7/5/2011 12:24 PM, Jaimon Jacob wrote: Hi, Yeah. I should have gone through it more carefully. I got it now, but I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. Regards, Jaimon - Original Message - From: Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice The OOo/LO template exposition concerning the contributor names included the advice to use Shit+Enter (similar tobr / in XHTML) as a forced line break between names, so that question of the original poster need not have been made--assuming that the instructions in the template exposition were followed. But again, there is no harm in asking... As to pasting: the unformatted paste (Ctrl+Shift+V) is often more useful when pasting the clipboard contents from different documents, especially if different apps were used. Gary On 7/5/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Shift and Enter compared to just Enter is a standard cross-platform feature in many many different apps. It's not specific to LibreOffice. It's a bit like knowing that Ctrl V pastes. 'Everyone' knows it. I only found out about it a few months ago. Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 4:32:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice On 7/4/2011 4:39 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Use Shift+Enter for a line break, not a new paragraph. --Jean On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 04:17, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, Tried my best, but I could not add my name to the contributor list.. :-) When I do an Enter, it always go down one space extra... Thanks That point should still be explicitly described in the exposition that is contained in all the various flavors of templates, no? Gary There are some errors of both omission and commission (plus some copyedit errors) in the OOo/LO template exposition. I am working on them. Probably, I will get back to that sometime this week and finish it. Good for you--your reading of it. Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 02:24, Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. I believe those in Chapter 1 were done with the Radiance theme, which is a theme with poor contrast. It may not be worth the time now to redo them with a better theme, but they will need to be done in a better-contrast theme (such as XP-Silver) at some point. IMO it's more important now to continue through all the chapters getting rid of Windows pix -- and (very important) reviewing for differences between LibO and OOo -- but please don't use Radiance for the theme. I see that Chapter 2 has used XP-Silver for the replacements. Chapter 3 seems to have some in Radiance, others in ClearLooks, and still others in XP-Silver. I haven't looked at the others. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On 7/5/2011 3:15 PM, David Nelson wrote: Hi Jaimon, On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. I should have gone through it more carefully. I got it now, but I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. I don't see any particular reason to do anything to Song Chuan's work... Unless you have a particular idea in mind? If not, the idea would simply be to continue working on what is left to be done. That would be my 2 cents... @Song Chuan: Song Chuan, would you have any comments or suggestions? Dave: Perhaps, Jaimon would prefer doing what he likes to do... After all, he is not simply an employee who needs to be ordered around. His working as a volunteer on whatever he wants to do should not be of much concern to you. Any time a reviewer/editor goes over the OOo/LO documents, there are very likely many overlooked errors that could be corrected--in addition to filling in gaps left undone in prior work.. That would be my dos centavos... Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 07:19, Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com wrote: On 7/5/2011 3:15 PM, David Nelson wrote: Hi Jaimon, On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. I should have gone through it more carefully. I got it now, but I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. I don't see any particular reason to do anything to Song Chuan's work... Unless you have a particular idea in mind? If not, the idea would simply be to continue working on what is left to be done. That would be my 2 cents... @Song Chuan: Song Chuan, would you have any comments or suggestions? Dave: Perhaps, Jaimon would prefer doing what he likes to do... After all, he is not simply an employee who needs to be ordered around. His working as a volunteer on whatever he wants to do should not be of much concern to you. Jaimon asked for advice. David and I gave our opinions. No one is ordering him or anyone else around. Any time a reviewer/editor goes over the OOo/LO documents, there are very likely many overlooked errors that could be corrected--in addition to filling in gaps left undone in prior work.. We have encouraged everyone to do more than just screenshots, if they want to. I'll add that no one is required to work on the user guides, if they prefer to do something else. That's been said several times before, too. --Jean That would be my dos centavos... Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 02:16, Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com wrote: The OOo/LO template exposition concerning the contributor names included the advice to use Shit+Enter (similar to br / in XHTML) as a forced line break between names, so that question of the original poster need not have been made--assuming that the instructions in the template exposition were followed. People reviewing chapters in the user guides probably won't have read the exposition in the template, because they will have had no reason to open the template and discover that there is useful information there. When you have finished revising the expostion, we can copy it into a planned chapter of the Contributors' Guide. That way people are more likely to discover and read the information. But again, there is no harm in asking... As to pasting: the unformatted paste (Ctrl+Shift+V) is often more useful when pasting the clipboard contents from different documents, especially if different apps were used. Thanks for the reminder. I forget about that keystroke combination, a very useful one. --Jean Gary On 7/5/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Shift and Enter compared to just Enter is a standard cross-platform feature in many many different apps. It's not specific to LibreOffice. It's a bit like knowing that Ctrl V pastes. 'Everyone' knows it. I only found out about it a few months ago. Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 4:32:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice On 7/4/2011 4:39 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Use Shift+Enter for a line break, not a new paragraph. --Jean On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 04:17, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Tried my best, but I could not add my name to the contributor list.. :-) When I do an Enter, it always go down one space extra... Thanks That point should still be explicitly described in the exposition that is contained in all the various flavors of templates, no? Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
There was no really good reason (on legal copyright grounds) not to use the Windows XP screen captures because Microsoft would routinely insert their boilerplate copyright notices, although Microsoft would never waste its time and effort going after those who used screenshots with any Windows O/S theme. Even for a competing product like OOo/LO. Eventually, I might repackage (and rewrite them a bit) the LO documents according to my own specifications in US Letter page size. When doing so, I might reinsert the XP silver theme (or, perhaps, use another theme) for any screen captures, primarily to get some practice using some proprietary screen-capture apps. Gary On 7/5/2011 4:21 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1 Even tho it might not be the theme we eventually agreed on at least they are not Windows screen-shots so there is no real need to change them this time. The Windows xp theme is the silver(ish) one on Ubuntu? Regards from Tom :) Hi Jaimon, On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. I should have gone through it more carefully. I got it now, but I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. I don't see any particular reason to do anything to Song Chuan's work... Unless you have a particular idea in mind? If not, the idea would simply be to continue working on what is left to be done. That would be my 2 cents... @Song Chuan: Song Chuan, would you have any comments or suggestions? -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 07:17, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: better-contrast theme (such as XP-Silver) at some point. And just to make sure everyone knows what I'm referring to: it's the XP-Silver theme *for Ubuntu* (a theme that provides a somewhat WindowsXP lookalike screenshot), NOT the Windows theme of a similar name. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 07:30:09 +1000 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 02:16, Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com wrote: The OOo/LO template exposition concerning the contributor names included the advice to use Shit+Enter (similar to br / in XHTML) as a forced line break between names, so that question of the original poster need not have been made--assuming that the instructions in the template exposition were followed. People reviewing chapters in the user guides probably won't have read the exposition in the template, because they will have had no reason to open the template and discover that there is useful information there. When you have finished revising the expostion, we can copy it into a planned chapter of the Contributors' Guide. That way people are more likely to discover and read the information. But again, there is no harm in asking... As to pasting: the unformatted paste (Ctrl+Shift+V) is often more useful when pasting the clipboard contents from different documents, especially if different apps were used. Thanks for the reminder. I forget about that keystroke combination, a very useful one. And if you use CTRL+ALT+Shift+V then you insert unformatted text immediately and won't get the popup window (or dialog) asking you what you want to insert. I hope this is useful to some of you Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On 7/5/2011 5:30 PM, Jean Weber wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 02:16, Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com wrote: The OOo/LO template exposition concerning the contributor names included the advice to use Shit+Enter (similar tobr / in XHTML) as a forced line break between names, so that question of the original poster need not have been made--assuming that the instructions in the template exposition were followed. People reviewing chapters in the user guides probably won't have read the exposition in the template, because they will have had no reason to open the template and discover that there is useful information there. When you have finished revising the expostion, we can copy it into a planned chapter of the Contributors' Guide. That way people are more likely to discover and read the information. But again, there is no harm in asking... As to pasting: the unformatted paste (Ctrl+Shift+V) is often more useful when pasting the clipboard contents from different documents, especially if different apps were used. Thanks for the reminder. I forget about that keystroke combination, a very useful one. --Jean Actually, Edit Paste Special Unformatted, or however it reads, does the same functioning. The keyboard shortcuts are just far more productive, timewise. So, the docs should always include them along with their UI versions. Gary On 7/5/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Shift and Enter compared to just Enter is a standard cross-platform feature in many many different apps. It's not specific to LibreOffice. It's a bit like knowing that Ctrl V pastes. 'Everyone' knows it. I only found out about it a few months ago. Regards from Tom :) On 7/4/2011 4:39 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Use Shift+Enter for a line break, not a new paragraph. --Jean On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 04:17, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Tried my best, but I could not add my name to the contributor list.. :-) When I do an Enter, it always go down one space extra... Thanks That point should still be explicitly described in the exposition that is contained in all the various flavors of templates, no? Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi :) It's good to avoid potentially exploitable weaknesses. People with knowledge and training in Law, experience or knowledge of relevant legal cases in various countries and even people that have only read the various MS Eulas pretty much all seem to advise TDF to avoid screen-shots of Windows in official documentation. Often i don't have a clue about the issues they talk about but I think it's worth taking notice of consistent advice. Also, it's easier to take the advice (to avoid screen-shots of Windows) than fight against it and then have regrets if it turns out to be true later. Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 22:31:25 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice There was no really good reason (on legal copyright grounds) not to use the Windows XP screen captures because Microsoft would routinely insert their boilerplate copyright notices, although Microsoft would never waste its time and effort going after those who used screenshots with any Windows O/S theme. Even for a competing product like OOo/LO. Eventually, I might repackage (and rewrite them a bit) the LO documents according to my own specifications in US Letter page size. When doing so, I might reinsert the XP silver theme (or, perhaps, use another theme) for any screen captures, primarily to get some practice using some proprietary screen-capture apps. Gary On 7/5/2011 4:21 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1 Even tho it might not be the theme we eventually agreed on at least they are not Windows screen-shots so there is no real need to change them this time. The Windows xp theme is the silver(ish) one on Ubuntu? Regards from Tom :) Hi Jaimon, On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jaimon Jacobjaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. I should have gone through it more carefully. I got it now, but I have a doubt about the Impress guide. The images had been updated by Song with Ambiance theme, so they need to be updated with windows xp theme now? Sorry for being too doubtful.. I don't see any particular reason to do anything to Song Chuan's work... Unless you have a particular idea in mind? If not, the idea would simply be to continue working on what is left to be done. That would be my 2 cents... @Song Chuan: Song Chuan, would you have any comments or suggestions? -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On 7/5/2011 5:30 PM, Jean Weber wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 02:16, Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com wrote: The OOo/LO template exposition concerning the contributor names included the advice to use Shit+Enter (similar tobr / in XHTML) as a forced line break between names, so that question of the original poster need not have been made--assuming that the instructions in the template exposition were followed. People reviewing chapters in the user guides probably won't have read the exposition in the template, because they will have had no reason to open the template and discover that there is useful information there. When you have finished revising the expostion, we can copy it into a planned chapter of the Contributors' Guide. That way people are more likely to discover and read the information. --Jean I have not read nor edited most of the resource material. Perhaps, it would help if the reviewers were advised to submit their reviewed copy on the latest template copy, which contains useful exposition. Especially if the review covers the entire document. The document properties might help with determining if the latest, most-current template was employed for the particular document being reviewed or technically edited. Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
On 7/5/2011 7:22 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It's good to avoid potentially exploitable weaknesses. People with knowledge and training in Law, experience or knowledge of relevant legal cases in various countries and even people that have only read the various MS Eulas pretty much all seem to advise TDF to avoid screen-shots of Windows in official documentation. Often i don't have a clue about the issues they talk about but I think it's worth taking notice of consistent advice. Also, it's easier to take the advice (to avoid screen-shots of Windows) than fight against it and then have regrets if it turns out to be true later. Regards from Tom :) The sky is not falling, as Chicken Little imagined. I disagree, primarily because literally many thousands, if not millions or billions even, of documents contain such Microsoft screen captures. MICROSOFT DOES NOT CARE... Why should they? They even give away much of their software nowadays. Removing the Windows XP silver screenshots was needless busy work that wasted time and effort, which could have introduced errors in the process. The old saw: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi :) Gary you don't seem like someone that is qualified to give legal advice such as that. I'm not sure you would accept responsibility and pay costs if your advice if damages were incurred as a result of taking your legal advice. Sadly we do not live in a simplistic children's story book. Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 6 July, 2011 0:57:53 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice On 7/5/2011 7:22 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It's good to avoid potentially exploitable weaknesses. People with knowledge and training in Law, experience or knowledge of relevant legal cases in various countries and even people that have only read the various MS Eulas pretty much all seem to advise TDF to avoid screen-shots of Windows in official documentation. Often i don't have a clue about the issues they talk about but I think it's worth taking notice of consistent advice. Also, it's easier to take the advice (to avoid screen-shots of Windows) than fight against it and then have regrets if it turns out to be true later. Regards from Tom :) The sky is not falling, as Chicken Little imagined. I disagree, primarily because literally many thousands, if not millions or billions even, of documents contain such Microsoft screen captures. MICROSOFT DOES NOT CARE... Why should they? They even give away much of their software nowadays. Removing the Windows XP silver screenshots was needless busy work that wasted time and effort, which could have introduced errors in the process. The old saw: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Gary -- Gary Schnabl Southwest Detroit, two miles NORTH! of Canada--Windsor, that is... Technical Editor forum http://TechnicalEditor.LivernoisYard.com/phpBB3/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Use Shift+Enter for a line break, not a new paragraph. --Jean On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 04:17, Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Tried my best, but I could not add my name to the contributor list.. :-) When I do an Enter, it always go down one space extra... Thanks -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Thanks Jean :-) - Original Message - From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice Use Shift+Enter for a line break, not a new paragraph. --Jean On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 04:17, Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Tried my best, but I could not add my name to the contributor list.. :-) When I do an Enter, it always go down one space extra... Thanks -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi David, Thanks. I have added my name and checked in the documents again. - Original Message i- From: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice Hi Jaimon, On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Tried my best, but I could not add my name to the contributor list.. :-) When I do an Enter, it always go down one space extra... If it's OK with you, can you check the document back in, please, and I'll try adding your name for you. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi :) Good work Jaimon :) Great to see you back :) If you have time then Draw could use replacement screen-shots. The wording has been dealt with and proof-read but if you spot something that needs changing urgently then go ahead. I'm not sure about the status of Impress or Math. The guide on how to start working in the Documentation Team needs re-working. Base is a major challenge. Draw is the one that can be completed most quickly and 'just' needs screen-shots to complete it. So, there is a choice of targets at many levels of complexity again. :) Don't worry if you don't have time or would rather do something completely different. There are a few other people doing work here. Congrats, many thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 3 July, 2011 13:11:37 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice Hi, I have updated the images in this document (Setting up Libreoffice) with images taken in Linux (Ubuntu). I took a long time to finish because I was not around for some time. Figure 26 and 27 were already taken in Linux, so they were not changed. I have made a minor change in the content in User interface – Screen font anti-aliasing as there was some text referring to the image in Windows. Jaimon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi Jaimon, Thank you very much for this work. :-) Where have you put the files? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi David, I have checked in the file here: Company Home English Content [en - English] Documentation Getting Started Guide, just like I had done the last time. Do I need to do something different? I have a backup copy in my system. Regards, Jaimon - Original Message - From: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice Hi Jaimon, Thank you very much for this work. :-) Where have you put the files? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
Hi Tom, Thanks. I will start with Draw and always ready for some writing or proofreading work. Regards, Jaimon - Original Message - From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice Hi :) Good work Jaimon :) Great to see you back :) If you have time then Draw could use replacement screen-shots. The wording has been dealt with and proof-read but if you spot something that needs changing urgently then go ahead. I'm not sure about the status of Impress or Math. The guide on how to start working in the Documentation Team needs re-working. Base is a major challenge. Draw is the one that can be completed most quickly and 'just' needs screen-shots to complete it. So, there is a choice of targets at many levels of complexity again. :) Don't worry if you don't have time or would rather do something completely different. There are a few other people doing work here. Congrats, many thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 3 July, 2011 13:11:37 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice Hi, I have updated the images in this document (Setting up Libreoffice) with images taken in Linux (Ubuntu). I took a long time to finish because I was not around for some time. Figure 26 and 27 were already taken in Linux, so they were not changed. I have made a minor change in the content in User interface – Screen font anti-aliasing as there was some text referring to the image in Windows. Jaimon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice
For Draw, only the ones in Drafts should need image updates. DO NOT use the Chapter 1 file that is in Drafts; it's marked as superceded but that may be easy to overlook. Also, check the Discussions for each of the other chapters; some have notes I made about other things that need to be done in some of the chapters. If you feel like doing something more ambitious than Draw, the Impress Guide needs reviewing as well as some image updates. --Jean On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 01:17, Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com wrote: One more thing. Do the documents in Drafts and Proofread both need image update? - Original Message - From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice Hi :) Good work Jaimon :) Great to see you back :) If you have time then Draw could use replacement screen-shots. The wording has been dealt with and proof-read but if you spot something that needs changing urgently then go ahead. I'm not sure about the status of Impress or Math. The guide on how to start working in the Documentation Team needs re-working. Base is a major challenge. Draw is the one that can be completed most quickly and 'just' needs screen-shots to complete it. So, there is a choice of targets at many levels of complexity again. :) Don't worry if you don't have time or would rather do something completely different. There are a few other people doing work here. Congrats, many thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Jaimon Jacob jaimon_jacob2...@yahoo.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 3 July, 2011 13:11:37 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice Hi, I have updated the images in this document (Setting up Libreoffice) with images taken in Linux (Ubuntu). I took a long time to finish because I was not around for some time. Figure 26 and 27 were already taken in Linux, so they were not changed. I have made a minor change in the content in User interface – Screen font anti-aliasing as there was some text referring to the image in Windows. Jaimon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 01:46, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Does the modification datetime help identify the right ones to work on? Not necessarily. The main indicator is what space the files are in; for Draw, the ones in Drafts have not had image updates done, while the ones in Reviewed have been updated. Modification dates may have changed for files I checked out, made some minor changes, decided I didn't have time to finish, and checked back in again with a note of things remaining to be done. For some other books (Getting Started, Writer, Calc), files in Reviewed or even Published may need image updates because that didn't get done for the first edition. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) Thanks Jean :) Regards from Tom :) From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 3 July, 2011 21:47:30 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide_Setting up Libreoffice On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 01:46, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Does the modification datetime help identify the right ones to work on? Not necessarily. The main indicator is what space the files are in; for Draw, the ones in Drafts have not had image updates done, while the ones in Reviewed have been updated. Modification dates may have changed for files I checked out, made some minor changes, decided I didn't have time to finish, and checked back in again with a note of things remaining to be done. For some other books (Getting Started, Writer, Calc), files in Reviewed or even Published may need image updates because that didn't get done for the first edition. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
