date:20061218

Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

2006-12-18 Thread Charlie Russel

I've sent some theme files to Glenn. They fix the ugly blueness of the
XP look in 32-bit Vista. If anyone wants them before Glenn makes them
more generally available, email me offlist and I'll send them directly. 

Charlie at scribes dot com. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dqsd-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gennetten, K. Douglas
 Sent: December-12-06 10:18 AM
 To: DQSD users mailing list
 Subject: [DQSD-Users] Vista
 
 Just installed the unofficial 4.0 build on Vista RTM.  Ok, so far.
One
 nit: it looks ugly. I see an XP-looking splice sandwiched within the
Vista
 Taskbar. Any solution? Thanks,
 
 
 
 Douglas Gennetten | HP | IPG | Mobile User Experience Design |
 970.898.9453 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dqsd-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Carr
 Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:00 AM
 To: dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [DQSD-Users] Unofficial 4.0 build
 
 
 
 Here is an unofficial 4.0 build of what's currently in SVN.  (Thanks
to
 Kim for fixing a bug I introduced since the last build.)
 
 http://www.glenncarr.com/dqsd/dqsd.zip
 http://www.glenncarr.com/dqsd/dqsd.zip


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Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

2006-12-18 Thread Glenn Carr

I've committed these, but haven't made any attempt to hook them up to the 
Configure menu.  

If I understand Charlie correctly, Vista doesn't behave properly with the 
Configure Themes code anyway?

 Original Message 
 From: Charlie Russel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:09 AM
 To: DQSD users mailing list dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

 I've sent some theme files to Glenn. They fix the ugly blueness of the
 XP look in 32-bit Vista. If anyone wants them before Glenn makes them
 more generally available, email me offlist and I'll send them directly. 

 Charlie at scribes dot com. 

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dqsd-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gennetten, K. Douglas
  Sent: December-12-06 10:18 AM
  To: DQSD users mailing list
  Subject: [DQSD-Users] Vista

  Just installed the unofficial 4.0 build on Vista RTM.  Ok, so far.
 One
  nit: it looks ugly. I see an XP-looking splice sandwiched within the
 Vista
  Taskbar. Any solution? Thanks,

  Douglas Gennetten | HP | IPG | Mobile User Experience Design |
  970.898.9453 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dqsd-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Carr
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:00 AM
  To: dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [DQSD-Users] Unofficial 4.0 build

  Here is an unofficial 4.0 build of what's currently in SVN.  (Thanks
 to
  Kim for fixing a bug I introduced since the last build.)

  http://www.glenncarr.com/dqsd/dqsd.zip
  http://www.glenncarr.com/dqsd/dqsd.zip

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Re: [DQSD-Users] DQSD-Users Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7

2006-12-18 Thread Glenn Carr

I've fixed httpinst to use the correct URLs for the new svn repository, and 
I've added a /list switch which will bring up the list of searches in the 
repository ordered by date.  The latest is attached.  Drop it in your 
%PROGRAMFILES%\Quick Search Deskbar\searches folder, and you're good to go.

BTW, it would be *really* nice if httpinst would display only the searches that 
are more current that those currently installed... if someone gets a hankerin' 
to enhance httpinst. ;)

 Original Message 
 From: Glenn Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 7:38 PM
 To: 'DQSD users mailing list' dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] DQSD-Users Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7
 
 Ah, I forgot all about httpinst, Brent.  That's a great tool, and should be
 correct in the current 4.0 release.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
  Of Brent Beardsley
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:02 PM
  To: DQSD users mailing list
  Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] DQSD-Users Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7
  
  There's also the httpinst search but that is broken in
  the released versions (3.x) because it's hitting the
  cvs server which has been replaced with subversion. 
  This has been fixed in the source code tree.  So after
  updating httpinst from the source code tree you could
  then do:
  
  httpinst amaz
  
  or whatever search you want to install.
  
  Brent
  
  --- Michael Garoutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Thanks, Glenn. I've filed that away for future use!
   This seems like a good 
   FAQ topic.
   
   Michael
   
- Go to the searches directory of the code
   repository on SF:
http://tinyurl.com/w5s6h
   
  
  (http://dqsd.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/dqsd/trunk/dqsd/search
  es/?sortby=date#dirlist)
   
- Click on the search .xml file link, which will
   take you to the revision 
history page for the file.
   
- Right-click on the (download) link and save the
   file your 
%PROGRAMFILES%\Quick Search Deskbar\searches
   directory.
   
- Reload your searchbar by entering ! and then
   Enter.
   
This should work in most cases.  Every once in a
   while a search file will 
require a change to some of the core files, in
   which case you would need 
to download that core file as well.  Usually,
   that's not the case though.
   
Hope that helps,
Glenn 
   
   
  
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Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

2006-12-18 Thread Charlie Russel

Correct. Users running Vista will need to take the provided files and
substitute them for localsearch.css and theme.css. Our installation
should simply put them into the dqsd directory. Actually, the
localsearch.css should be renamed to localsearch_vista.css before we
make it available to folks so that it doesn't overwrite their own
version. Those who already have localsearch.css will want to merge their
customizations in with the provided css file, and then name it
'localsearch.css'. 

In my working with these, I found it best to copy the files to my own
directory, make all the changes, and then copy them back under \program
files\quick search deskbar. You'll get a couple of UAC prompts, but
that's always going to be the case with Vista. 

Charlie. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dqsd-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Carr
 Sent: December-18-06 9:17 AM
 To: dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net; dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista
 
 I've committed these, but haven't made any attempt to hook them up to
the
 Configure menu.
 
 If I understand Charlie correctly, Vista doesn't behave properly with
the
 Configure Themes code anyway?
 
  Original Message 
  From: Charlie Russel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:09 AM
  To: DQSD users mailing list dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista
 
  I've sent some theme files to Glenn. They fix the ugly blueness of
the
  XP look in 32-bit Vista. If anyone wants them before Glenn makes
them
  more generally available, email me offlist and I'll send them
directly.
 
  Charlie at scribes dot com.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dqsd-users-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gennetten, K. Douglas
   Sent: December-12-06 10:18 AM
   To: DQSD users mailing list
   Subject: [DQSD-Users] Vista
  
   Just installed the unofficial 4.0 build on Vista RTM.  Ok, so far.
  One
   nit: it looks ugly. I see an XP-looking splice sandwiched within
the
  Vista
   Taskbar. Any solution? Thanks,
  
  
  
   Douglas Gennetten | HP | IPG | Mobile User Experience Design |
   970.898.9453 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dqsd-users-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Carr
   Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:00 AM
   To: dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: [DQSD-Users] Unofficial 4.0 build
  
  
  
   Here is an unofficial 4.0 build of what's currently in SVN.
(Thanks
  to
   Kim for fixing a bug I introduced since the last build.)
  
   http://www.glenncarr.com/dqsd/dqsd.zip
   http://www.glenncarr.com/dqsd/dqsd.zip
 
 
 

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Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

2006-12-18 Thread Charlie Russel

Kim -
   I agree, I thought I should have been able to get this whole thing to work 
with just theme.css. But some things just wouldn't take right and it ended up 
looking ugly. Specfically, the  button wouldn't change colour, and a couple 
of other minor things. I'm not at all sure which one overrides the other. Maybe 
this could be done entirely in localsearch.css? I didn't actually try that 
scenario. But definitely theme.css alone wasn't sufficient. 

  I confess, this was just me poking around, no real knowledge about what was 
happening where. And a lot of trial and error (which is a PITA with UAC turned 
on, I can tell you!) 

I don't by any means think these are definitive versions. Just my best guess by 
the time I gave up at 1 AM this morning. g The one thing I'm sure of though 
is that it is WAY better than any of the existing themes in Vista. (You really 
have to see the ugliness to appreciate it how bad it is.)

Charlie. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dqsd-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Gräsman
 Sent: December-18-06 10:06 AM
 To: 'DQSD users mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I found some time to look into the menu -- it's built from configure.xml
 in
 your searches directory.
 
 That script contains boatloads of logic to set up the menu, including a
 set
 of calls to add themes in buildConfigureMenu().
 
 It bothers me a little that the Vista theme requires changes to both
 localsearch.css and theme.css... Could this be re-made to require changes
 only in theme.css? Maybe that puts more pressure on the other themes,
 though, I don't know 100% how this stuff fits together.
 
 - Kim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
  Of Charlie Russel
  Sent: den 18 december 2006 18:57
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DQSD users mailing list
  Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista
 
  Correct. Users running Vista will need to take the provided
  files and substitute them for localsearch.css and
  theme.css. Our installation should simply put them into the
  dqsd directory. Actually, the localsearch.css should be
  renamed to localsearch_vista.css before we make it
  available to folks so that it doesn't overwrite their own
  version. Those who already have localsearch.css will want to
  merge their customizations in with the provided css file, and
  then name it 'localsearch.css'.
 
  In my working with these, I found it best to copy the files
  to my own directory, make all the changes, and then copy them
  back under \program files\quick search deskbar. You'll get a
  couple of UAC prompts, but that's always going to be the case
  with Vista.
 
  Charlie.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dqsd-users-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Carr
   Sent: December-18-06 9:17 AM
   To: dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net;
  dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista
  
   I've committed these, but haven't made any attempt to hook
  them up to
  the
   Configure menu.
  
   If I understand Charlie correctly, Vista doesn't behave
  properly with
  the
   Configure Themes code anyway?
  
    Original Message 
From: Charlie Russel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:09 AM
To: DQSD users mailing list dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista
   
I've sent some theme files to Glenn. They fix the ugly blueness of
  the
XP look in 32-bit Vista. If anyone wants them before Glenn makes
  them
more generally available, email me offlist and I'll send them
  directly.
   
Charlie at scribes dot com.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:dqsd-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gennetten,
  K. Douglas
 Sent: December-12-06 10:18 AM
 To: DQSD users mailing list
 Subject: [DQSD-Users] Vista

 Just installed the unofficial 4.0 build on Vista RTM.
  Ok, so far.
One
 nit: it looks ugly. I see an XP-looking splice sandwiched within
  the
Vista
 Taskbar. Any solution? Thanks,



 Douglas Gennetten | HP | IPG | Mobile User Experience Design |
 970.898.9453 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:dqsd-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Carr
 Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:00 AM
 To: dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [DQSD-Users] Unofficial 4.0 build



 Here is an unofficial 4.0 build of what's currently in SVN.
  (Thanks
to
 Kim for fixing a bug I introduced since the last build.)

 http://www.glenncarr.com/dqsd/dqsd.zip
 http://www.glenncarr.com/dqsd/dqsd.zip
   
   
   
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Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

2006-12-18 Thread Charlie Russel

Hi, Kim. 

Yes, my localsearch was empty before I started. The one thing that simply would 
NOT change in theme.css was the  on the button. It stayed doggedly black, 
which doesn't work on a very dark grey background. 

I'll play around a bit more in a couple of days, when I have some time, and 
maybe I can get it all back to where it is done in theme.css. If I can figure 
out what is going on with the chevrons. I agree, that would be best. Then we 
simply ship the theme_vista.css plus the two bmp files, and folks can manually 
copy the theme_vista.css to theme.css and be done. 

Charlie.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Gräsman
 Sent: December-18-06 10:51 AM
 To: 'DQSD users mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista
 
 Hi Charlie,
 
 Right. It seems the load order is:
 
 1) search.css
 2) theme.css
 3) localsearch.css
 
 so localsearch.css should only be involved at the very last stage.
 
 Was your localsearch.css empty to begin with?
 
  Maybe this could be done entirely in
  localsearch.css?
 
 I think it should be the other way around -- theme.css should be the only
 point of change. localsearch.css is for user-specific mods, and should
 override both search.css and theme.css.
 
  The one thing I'm sure of though is that it is
  WAY better than any of the existing themes in Vista. (You
  really have to see the ugliness to appreciate it how bad it is.)
 
 Heh. I keep getting the blue XP theme because I install as administrator
 and
 run DQSD as another user, and that really looks crap with my classic
 theme.
 
 Cheers,
 - Kim
 
 
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Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

2006-12-18 Thread Kim Gräsman

Hi Charlie,

 Yes, my localsearch was empty before I started. The one thing 
 that simply would NOT change in theme.css was the  on the 
 button. It stayed doggedly black, which doesn't work on a 
 very dark grey background. 

Weird... I'll try and figure something out, but as I said, CSS isn't my
forte. 

 I'll play around a bit more in a couple of days, when I have 
 some time, and maybe I can get it all back to where it is 
 done in theme.css. If I can figure out what is going on with 
 the chevrons. I agree, that would be best. Then we simply 
 ship the theme_vista.css plus the two bmp files, and folks 
 can manually copy the theme_vista.css to theme.css and be done. 

Exactly!

Thanks,
- Kim


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Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

2006-12-18 Thread Charlie Russel

 
 Weird... I'll try and figure something out, but as I said, CSS isn't
my
 forte.
Nor mine. I wonder if there's a decent online reference for it. I'll
have to look around. It's all a nuisance, of course, since I don't have
a 64-bit dqsd to work with and only have one machine running 32-bit
Vista. All others are on 64-bit. 

Give me a few days to poke around. I can probably sort something. Now
that I've gotten pretty much everything looking at least reasonable, I
won't have so many variables to deal with. I probably made too many
changes at once and lost track of something. 

Thank goodness for gvim - doing all this editing in notepad would be
seriously painful. 

Charlie. 

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Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

2006-12-18 Thread Kim Gräsman

Hi Charlie,

 I wonder if there's a decent online reference for 
 it. I'll have to look around. 

Here's the actual spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/ -- excruciating.
W3Schools: http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp -- usually short and
sweet, but low on basic ideas

FWIW, I removed everything from localsearch.css and copied the *button
classes into theme.css, and it worked, instantly. I get a little red
chevron, at least.

Maybe it's a Vista thing?

- Kim


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Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista

2006-12-18 Thread Charlie Russel

Hmmm. Not on that machine right now, but I'll try it again tonight when I have 
a moment. 

I'll pass on the excruciating one. And try the other, thanks. 

Little red chevron is good. Though I actually think the best for the theme 
would probably be silver. I'll try that later. 

Thanks, Kim. 

Charlie. 

 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Gräsman
 Sent: December-18-06 11:37 AM
 To: 'DQSD users mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Vista
 
 Hi Charlie,
 
  I wonder if there's a decent online reference for
  it. I'll have to look around.
 
 Here's the actual spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/ -- excruciating.
 W3Schools: http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp -- usually short and
 sweet, but low on basic ideas
 
 FWIW, I removed everything from localsearch.css and copied the *button
 classes into theme.css, and it worked, instantly. I get a little red
 chevron, at least.
 
 Maybe it's a Vista thing?
 
 - Kim
 
 
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