Re: [drakelist] TR-4 Problem
Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi Boyd - OK. I can see where your situation could cause a problem. I took Carl at his word that the filaments were lit, but if he missed one of the PA tubes it could work out that way. I'll let him know, we are working off reflector to resolve his problem. A voltage check would show if something flaky like that was going on. I have published service supplement CDs for the Drake 4 Line separates and the 2-B, and have been working on one for the TR-4 series for the last year. Each CD includes ALL the variations of the schematics. So far I have eleven different schematics for the TR-4 series, Bill Frost at Drake only has two! There were several in the area of your serial number, and I'm away from home this week, so I don't have them all with me. Obvious question on your PTO problem, do you have approx 11V on the DC line of the PTO? There is a 10V Zener inside the PTO that can short, taking out the 100 ohm decoupling resistor. If you do, can you hear the PTO running, or see it on a scope if you have access to one. Should be about 1.25-2V p-p output. IF the PTO is dead, the transistor, or FET, can be replaced without affecting the linearity. I'll be back home next week and can get you the correct schematic for your s/n. I hope the CD will be ready later this month, but it keeps stretching out as I find more variations, necessitating more photos! 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 4-B C-Line Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Boyd Van Horn wrote: Garey, The reason i mentioned the final filaments is I found one set with only one of the filaments not working . It allowed the receiver to function, but not quite up to par. You seem to be very knowledgable on these, so I have a problem maybe you can help me with. I have an eary TR4- SN 23470. The on board PTO will not function, but the external vfo will function fine. It has the 3 section filter cap instead of 4 like the later models and a bunch of stand up component boards unlike the later ones. What do you normally find wrong in that situation ? I have fulled out the PTO and the circuit if different than my schematic. It only has one diode instead of two and the components are located in different places. Any help would be appreciated. Boyd W0BUW */Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Garey Barrell made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- The final filaments are in series with most of the receiver tube filaments, so if the receiver is working, that is not the problem. The bias supply should be variable from approx -45 to -85V. The screens should have approximately 250 VDC, current limited to less in X-CW. The plate voltage is 650 VDC. IF these voltages are present, and the cathodes are grounded through the 15 ohm cathode resistors, you should be able to adjust the bias for the 0.1A idle current. The system is the same as the T-4XC, just one more tube. Same rules. 73, Garey - K4OAH Boyd Van Horn wrote: Carl, Check the filaments on the finals. They are all three in parallel and drop the 12.6 volts to 6.3 for the remainder of the tubes. The wires to the filaments are small and brittle. Measure the Bias voltage coming out of the power supply- should be at least -65 and you should be able to reduce it to zero. When you go to X-CW you should have 350 volts on the final screens and when you go to ssb the voltage should go to 650 volts. Be Careful !!! Also the sealed transmit /receive relays are known to go bad. If you need one you can order from Mouser in Texas- the manufacturers part number is R10-EIY4-V2.5K. Good Luck, Boyd */Garey Barrell /* wrote: Garey Barrell made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Carl - No. No modifications are necessary to use the 6GJ5. Pin 8 is no connection in the 6GJ5, and is the suppressor grid on the 6JB6, which is grounded. You say NO plate current. Do you have bias current? Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: abbreviated excerpt below The 6GJ5's will work fine... Garey - K4OAH Hi, TR4 will not tune up...no plate current...have been advised that 6GJ5's may have to have pin 8 cut off. Your thoughts. Carl Hibbard WD8NHK -- Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - help
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Duane Calvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Good point, John. My request was just in passing, but out of curiosity I plugged in drake 4-line blue filter to Google and got numerous references to blue lamps, many links to WA9TGT's filters, WB4HFN's page linking to TGT's, but none that I could find which linked to the Lee Filters number. I didn't try searching the drakelist archive because I couldn't find the archive. Even the link from the Drakelist page didn't work. 73, Duane At 11:40 PM 11/6/2007, you wrote: Greetings all, There is no mystery about this. All you need is $6.25 plus shipping and you can buy your very own lifetime supply (21 X 24 inch sheet) of Lee Filters #172 which is also known as Lagoon Blue. Simply go to www.filmtools.com There is no minumum order and they sell to anyone. Orders are shipped the next day. The usual disclaimers apply. Now I have to blow off some steam: I subscribe to many reflectors. Every day I see folks looking for stuff. Some appear to be asking for freebees and others for difficult to find items. It appears that many are too lazy to do some very basic research to find what they are looking for and expect someone to do the work for them. Why not let your fingers do the walking? Researching on the web is certainly not brain surgery and you will be amazed what you will find with virtually no effort! I suppose now I will spend the next several days getting flamed and looking at endless threads on the subject. I'm done. 73, John, W4AWM ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas www.ac5aa.com -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Duane Calvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- By the way, FilmTools now requires a $15 minimum order. Must be too many of us Drakesters ordering a single sheet! 73, Duane At 11:40 PM 11/6/2007, you wrote: Greetings all, There is no mystery about this. All you need is $6.25 plus shipping and you can buy your very own lifetime supply (21 X 24 inch sheet) of Lee Filters #172 which is also known as Lagoon Blue. Simply go to www.filmtools.com There is no minumum order and they sell to anyone. Orders are shipped the next day. The usual disclaimers apply. Now I have to blow off some steam: I subscribe to many reflectors. Every day I see folks looking for stuff. Some appear to be asking for freebees and others for difficult to find items. It appears that many are too lazy to do some very basic research to find what they are looking for and expect someone to do the work for them. Why not let your fingers do the walking? Researching on the web is certainly not brain surgery and you will be amazed what you will find with virtually no effort! I suppose now I will spend the next several days getting flamed and looking at endless threads on the subject. I'm done. 73, John, W4AWM ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas www.ac5aa.com -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Duane Calvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- That might have worked for you last night, but today if you go into either the PayPal or the non-PayPal checkout, it stops at one point (just before confirming in PayPal) and give the error message that the minimum order amont of $15 has not been reached, and you cannot progress from there. I got a similar message from the other checkout option this morning when I tried it. I'll just order two sheets and sell the 2nd one . . . 73, Duane - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters Hi Duane and all, I plugged in an order with FT last night just to see how far it would go. I got right up to the shipping but didn't give them my card number and there was no mention of a minimum orderunless I somehow missed it. Even then, I would gladly pay $15.00 for a sheet of filter if I needed it. I am sure there are other goodies on that site that one could order to make up the $15.00 minimum that would be usable items around the shack. For that matter, one could order several sheets of filter, keep one and sell the excess. I happened to load up on the original stuff when it was still available so I have my own lifetime supply. 73, John, W4AWM -Original Message- From: Duane Calvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 9:33 am Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters Duane Calvin made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- By the way, FilmTools now requires a $15 minimum order. Must be too many of us Drakesters ordering a single sheet! 73, Duane At 11:40 PM 11/6/2007, you wrote: Greetings all, There is no mystery about this. All you need is $6.25 plus shipping and you can buy your very own lifetime supply (21 X 24 inch sheet) of Lee Filters #172 which is also known as Lagoon Blue. Simply go to www.filmtools.com There is no minumum order and they sell to anyone. Orders are shipped the next day. The usual disclaimers apply. Now I have to blow off some steam: I subscribe to many reflectors. Every day I see folks looking for stuff. Some appear to be asking for freebees and others for difficult to find items. It appears that many are too lazy to do some very basic research to find what they are looking for and expect someone to do the work for them. Why not let your fingers do the walking? Researching on the web is certainly not brain surgery and you will be amazed what you will find with virtually no effort! I suppose now I will spend the next several days getting flamed and looking at endless threads on the subject. I'm done. 73, John, W4AWM ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas www.ac5aa.com -- Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.24/1115 - Release Date: 11/7/2007 9:21 AM Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas www.ac5aa.com -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
John you are absolutely correct and it's not just here but on all the groups that I belong to. Just taking the time to search the web and the groups archives will provide a wealth of information. The other thing I see is someone will ask a question and it has been answered. Now it seems like everyone else wants to get some attention so the question now gets another 10 or 20 more answers to the same question. Sometimes a little more information MAY be needed, this I understand. I also know that sometimes you have submitted an answer along with a few others at the same time so there will be some repeated answers. But to drag a simple Q A on for days is going a little overboard. It just ends up taking up a lot of computer space and fills up my mail box unnecessarily. Al, n7ioh On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all, There is no mystery about this. All you need is $6.25 plus shipping and you can buy your very own lifetime supply (21 X 24 inch sheet) of Lee Filters #172 which is also known as Lagoon Blue. Simply go towww.filmtools.comThere is no minumum order and they sell to anyone. Orders are shipped the next day. The usual disclaimers apply. Now I have to blow off some steam: I subscribe to many reflectors. Every day I see folks looking for stuff. Some appear to be asking for freebees and others for difficult to find items. It appears that many are too lazy to do some very basic research to find what they are looking for and expect someone to do the work for them. Why not let your fingers do the walking? Researching on the web is certainly not brain surgery and you will be amazed what you will find with virtually no effort! I suppose now I will spend the next several days getting flamed and looking at endless threads on the subject. I'm done. 73, John, W4AWM ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [drakelist] TR-4 Problem
Garey, The reason i mentioned the final filaments is I found one set with only one of the filaments not working . It allowed the receiver to function, but not quite up to par. You seem to be very knowledgable on these, so I have a problem maybe you can help me with. I have an eary TR4- SN 23470. The on board PTO will not function, but the external vfo will function fine. It has the 3 section filter cap instead of 4 like the later models and a bunch of stand up component boards unlike the later ones. What do you normally find wrong in that situation ? I have fulled out the PTO and the circuit if different than my schematic. It only has one diode instead of two and the components are located in different places. Any help would be appreciated. Boyd W0BUW Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garey Barrell made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- The final filaments are in series with most of the receiver tube filaments, so if the receiver is working, that is not the problem. The bias supply should be variable from approx -45 to -85V. The screens should have approximately 250 VDC, current limited to less in X-CW. The plate voltage is 650 VDC. IF these voltages are present, and the cathodes are grounded through the 15 ohm cathode resistors, you should be able to adjust the bias for the 0.1A idle current. The system is the same as the T-4XC, just one more tube. Same rules. 73, Garey - K4OAH Boyd Van Horn wrote: Carl, Check the filaments on the finals. They are all three in parallel and drop the 12.6 volts to 6.3 for the remainder of the tubes. The wires to the filaments are small and brittle. Measure the Bias voltage coming out of the power supply- should be at least -65 and you should be able to reduce it to zero. When you go to X-CW you should have 350 volts on the final screens and when you go to ssb the voltage should go to 650 volts. Be Careful !!! Also the sealed transmit /receive relays are known to go bad. If you need one you can order from Mouser in Texas- the manufacturers part number is R10-EIY4-V2.5K. Good Luck, Boyd */Garey Barrell /* wrote: Garey Barrell made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Carl - No. No modifications are necessary to use the 6GJ5. Pin 8 is no connection in the 6GJ5, and is the suppressor grid on the 6JB6, which is grounded. You say NO plate current. Do you have bias current? Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: abbreviated excerpt below The 6GJ5's will work fine... Garey - K4OAH Hi, TR4 will not tune up...no plate current...have been advised that 6GJ5's may have to have pin 8 cut off. Your thoughts. Carl Hibbard WD8NHK -- Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Hello John... Changing the blue filters when needed (about 20 or 30 years) a lifetime supply wouldn't have to be very large... hi hi... 73's, Charlie... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters Hi Duane and all, I plugged in an order with FT last night just to see how far it would go. I got right up to the shipping but didn't give them my card number and there was no mention of a minimum orderunless I somehow missed it. Even then, I would gladly pay $15.00 for a sheet of filter if I needed it. I am sure there are other goodies on that site that one could order to make up the $15.00 minimum that would be usable items around the shack. For that matter, one could order several sheets of filter, keep one and sell the excess. I happened to load up on the original stuff when it was still available so I have my own lifetime supply. 73, John, W4AWM -Original Message- From: Duane Calvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 9:33 am Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters Duane Calvin made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- By the way, FilmTools now requires a $15 minimum order. Must be too many of us Drakesters ordering a single sheet! 73, Duane At 11:40 PM 11/6/2007, you wrote: Greetings all, There is no mystery about this. All you need is $6.25 plus shipping and you can buy your very own lifetime supply (21 X 24 inch sheet) of Lee Filters #172 which is also known as Lagoon Blue. Simply go towww.filmtools.comThere is no minumum order and they sell to anyone. Orders are shipped the next day. The usual disclaimers apply. Now I have to blow off some steam: I subscribe to many reflectors. Every day I see folks looking for stuff. Some appear to be asking for freebees and others for difficult to find items. It appears that many are too lazy to do some very basic research to find what they are looking for and expect someone to do the work for them. Why not let your fingers do the walking? Researching on the web is certainly not brain surgery and you will be amazed what you will find with virtually no effort! I suppose now I will spend the next several days getting flamed and looking at endless threads on the subject. I'm done. 73, John, W4AWM ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas www.ac5aa.com -- Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.24/1115 - Release Date: 11/7/2007 9:21 AM
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Ron Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Not a flame, but rather an observation. I agree to a point. At least look on the web before you ask here, but... the thing about Google and web information in general is that you can find all kinds of bad information on the net. And unless you follow this list and know the players you never know if what you read on a site is from someone who has a clue or not. As for the archive link on zerobeat, it works for me. Maybe it was the site was down when you looked. 73, Ron -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Jim F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Carey, You are doing great ! My PC has a delete button and I know how to use it :-) Back when I was a Novice, some old timers used to resent newcomers and it hurt a lot, as a young kid. I'm afraid some of them old timers might still be around. Don't worry, be happy. 73, jim --- Carey Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well i am the one who started this thread. and sorry for that i am. and i did not ask where to get the materials. i asked for the call or the web address of the man who sells the filters that more resemble the originals. now i am two months new to drakes and drake collecting. i joined this list in search of knowledge and technical assistance. there are collectors here that have gone thru all of the googling searching trying and still rely on experience in the end. i simply asked them to share. apparently was wrong about the use of this list. i did not know what kind of material it was, what its name is, that it was sold my FILM LIGHTING COMPANIES. who would have guessed film = radio. i still didnt get the info i needed but now i have several sources for material to make my own if i so decide. so 73's Carey Lockhart, KC5GTT [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.kc5gtt.com On Nov 7, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Ron Wagner wrote: Ron Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Not a flame, but rather an observation. I agree to a point. At least look on the web before you ask here, but... the thing about Google and web information in general is that you can find all kinds of bad information on the net. And unless you follow this list and know the players you never know if what you read on a site is from someone who has a clue or not. As for the archive link on zerobeat, it works for me. Maybe it was the site was down when you looked. 73, Ron -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Gary - That has been my experience also. The white background tends to yellow with age, imparting a greenish cast to the blue-green of the original filter color. I did find a frosted mylar sheet that diffused the light almost as well as the white, but still had a hot spot in the middle. Using the 755 bulb instead of the original 47 helps considerably in extending the life of both filter pieces, plus gives the added benefit of almost forever bulb life. 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 4-B C-Line Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Gary Poland wrote: Gary Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Except for the white plastic used for GARAGE SALE signs I have yet to find a suitable sub for the white plastic dial background material. I have also tried sheet vinyl from the local hobby shop but it wont pass enough light. 73, Gary W8PU http://home.cinci.rr.com/w8pu -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Gary Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Except for the white plastic used for GARAGE SALE signs I have yet to find a suitable sub for the white plastic dial background material. I have also tried sheet vinyl from the local hobby shop but it wont pass enough light. 73, Gary W8PU http://home.cinci.rr.com/w8pu -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Carey, You did NOT do wrong in your asking. If this forum is not for encouraging new folks in their Drake endeavors, then it serves no purpose. I, for one, gladly share what little I know, and DON'T keep score how many times a question has been asked. There are many of us who will help, and not chastise you for asking. Carry on!! If there gets to be too much email on a somewhat dead list sometimes, I am sure Thom is fully capable of telling us to slow it down, we don't need any reflector police doing so. 73, Don, WB5HAK
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Carey and Drake listers. I have both enjoyed and benefitted from this thread. I have saved several posts to my Drake folder for future reference. Mas Tarde. Rick W0RT - Original Message - From: Don Cunningham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters Carey, You did NOT do wrong in your asking. If this forum is not for encouraging new folks in their Drake endeavors, then it serves no purpose. I, for one, gladly share what little I know, and DON'T keep score how many times a question has been asked. There are many of us who will help, and not chastise you for asking. Carry on!! If there gets to be too much email on a somewhat dead list sometimes, I am sure Thom is fully capable of telling us to slow it down, we don't need any reflector police doing so. 73, Don, WB5HAK
[drakelist] TR4 S meter
Ken Bessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- My TR4's S meter is reading off the left edge of the scale (S minus 1). When I inject a 50 microvolt signal on 7040, I get S9 exactly. Anyone know what the problem is? I should be seeing S1 at least on 40 at night. Yep, I said S1 - I live in a shallow valley so my HF background noise has always been low but negative S1? Help? 73's de Ken KG0WX - Kadiddlehopper #11808, Flying Pigs #-1055, Grid EM17ip _ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
well i am the one who started this thread. and sorry for that i am. and i did not ask where to get the materials. i asked for the call or the web address of the man who sells the filters that more resemble the originals. now i am two months new to drakes and drake collecting. i joined this list in search of knowledge and technical assistance. there are collectors here that have gone thru all of the googling searching trying and still rely on experience in the end. i simply asked them to share. apparently was wrong about the use of this list. i did not know what kind of material it was, what its name is, that it was sold my FILM LIGHTING COMPANIES. who would have guessed film = radio. i still didnt get the info i needed but now i have several sources for material to make my own if i so decide. so 73's Carey Lockhart, KC5GTT [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.kc5gtt.com On Nov 7, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Ron Wagner wrote: Ron Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Not a flame, but rather an observation. I agree to a point. At least look on the web before you ask here, but... the thing about Google and web information in general is that you can find all kinds of bad information on the net. And unless you follow this list and know the players you never know if what you read on a site is from someone who has a clue or not. As for the archive link on zerobeat, it works for me. Maybe it was the site was down when you looked. 73, Ron -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
john [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Carey Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well i am the one who started this thread. and sorry for that i am. Hi Carey! Don't worry about it ... it's just the Internet, and some people gripe about everythingcertainly no harm done. There's a wealth of good info and good people on this list, who are glad to help. 73 John PS: A trip through the clear report cover section of Office Max, will net you a variety of blue hues you may find useful in re-tinting the dial glow on your Drake lines. The cost of fifty cents for a lifetime supply is also attactive.No minimum purchase required! -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Hi Carey, Please don't feel bad, you asked a perfectly reasonable question and found the answer. There was really no way to enter a question like that into a search engine until you at least had a manufacturers name or model number. That you got and that is why we are all here, to help eachother. If you did not happen to know about the Drake site, you could not be expected to be able to find out anything, either. The last time I tried to find the Drake site on Google, the link did not work, so you can see there are problems. In any rate, welcome to the reflector and to the world of Drake collecting. My little tirade was about the folks who know what they want and in many cases have the above information. Then they get onto the reflectors looking for someone to look it up for them, or maybe even send them the tube, connector or other part from their junk box at no cost. Rarely do you see someone offer up front to pay for the item. Maybe they would offer to pay after someone offers them the item, but it is not that evident at the outset. I used to send out connectors, hardware and other stuff just to help out. Now with increased postage rates and limited time to find suitable packing, box it up and take it to the post office or shipping company, I can no longer do that gratis. Good guy or not, it is just not worth the hassle unless a fair price is paid and the postage covered. I do have an extensive library of manuals, catalogs and reference books and I am glad to look up things for folks. A goodly number of manuals are now available free or at reasonable cost for a quality reprint. Therefore, I will no longer take the time to go to Kinkos or other copy place to reproduce a manual for free. The only time I would even offer is if it happened to be a rare manual what I was sure was not available anywhere else. Also, there is the copyright law bit and I have been challenged about that several times by overzealous clerks at the copy stores. Although most of these materials are very old and the companies are in many cases defunct, nobody knows if someone out there still holds a copyright. For instance, in the case of Hallicrafters, the name is owned by an electronics company and Drake is still in business although neither is in the ham gear market at this point. 73, John, W4AWM ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Gary Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Here is a link to a theater supply house where I purchased middle blue gel material several years back for my Drakes. http://www.theatrehouse.net/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=THHProduct_Code=2810Category_Code=LightFilter 73, Gary W8PU http://home.cinci.rr.com/w8pu -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
As a reminder to all, an excellent resource is Ron's website, www.wb4hfn.com . This site may have the best collection of information available to us and it grows all the time through the efforts of sincere and serious Drake collectors. Please visit the site and click on the Drake logo for more information. Thanks David Wd9cmd - Original Message - From: Carey Lockhart To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters well i am the one who started this thread. and sorry for that i am. and i did not ask where to get the materials. i asked for the call or the web address of the man who sells the filters that more resemble the originals. now i am two months new to drakes and drake collecting. i joined this list in search of knowledge and technical assistance. there are collectors here that have gone thru all of the googling searching trying and still rely on experience in the end. i simply asked them to share. apparently was wrong about the use of this list. i did not know what kind of material it was, what its name is, that it was sold my FILM LIGHTING COMPANIES. who would have guessed film = radio. i still didnt get the info i needed but now i have several sources for material to make my own if i so decide. so 73's Carey Lockhart, KC5GTT [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.kc5gtt.com On Nov 7, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Ron Wagner wrote: Ron Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Not a flame, but rather an observation. I agree to a point. At least look on the web before you ask here, but... the thing about Google and web information in general is that you can find all kinds of bad information on the net. And unless you follow this list and know the players you never know if what you read on a site is from someone who has a clue or not. As for the archive link on zerobeat, it works for me. Maybe it was the site was down when you looked. 73, Ron -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] TR4 S meter
Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Ken - The S-Meter is part of a bridge network that compares the plate current of the AF output stage against the IF plate current of two other stages, and as the tubes age the balance shifts slightly. There is an S-Meter Zero control on the right side of the TR-4 to allow you to rebalance the bridge and cause the meter to read S-1 with no input signal. R187, a blue trimpot near the center of the underchassis to set the S-Meter to 60 over S9 with the RF Gain control turned full CCW. The procedure is outlined in the manual, but that's about it. If it's reading S9 at 50 uV input, it's about right, and really doesn't need to be adjusted. On the other hand, if that -S1 bothers you, that's how you fix it! 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 4-B C-Line Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Ken Bessler wrote: Ken Bessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- My TR4's S meter is reading off the left edge of the scale (S minus 1). When I inject a 50 microvolt signal on 7040, I get S9 exactly. Anyone know what the problem is? I should be seeing S1 at least on 40 at night. Yep, I said S1 - I live in a shallow valley so my HF background noise has always been low but negative S1? Help? 73's de Ken KG0WX - Kadiddlehopper #11808, Flying Pigs #-1055, Grid EM17ip -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
