[Drakelist] FS: K4OAH Drake 2-B/2-BQ and 2-C/2-NT CDs
For Sale: Two of Garey Barrell's (K4OAH) Service CD's: Drake 2-B/2-BQ Service Information ver 1.02 Drake 2-C/2-NT Service Information ver 1.03 $40 for both including postage to Canada and the lower 48 US States. Payment via PayPal only. These are awesome and essential for anyone working on these Drake radios. However, I am selling all of my vintage gear and no longer have a need for these CDs. Please respond off list. 73, Darrell VE7IU -- Darrell Bellerive VE7IU ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] 2-B 160 Meter Conversion Kit?
I just found a bag of parts in my 2-B parts collection with a 5.5 MHz crystal, two variable capacitors, and a disc ceramic. I wonder if this was a parts kit for the A band conversion to 160 Meters for the Drake 2-B. The parts do not match up with what is in the official drake mod, but wonder if maybe someone had an alternative design and offered a parts kit. Anyone have any ideas? 73, Darrell VE7IU -- Darrell Bellerive VE7IU ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] [DrakeRadio] FS: K4OAH Drake 2-B/2-BQ and 2-C/2-NT CDs
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[Drakelist] WTB: 40 Meter Crystal for 2-NT
I am looking for a 40 meter crystal to test a 2-NT transmitter. Anywhere between 7.002 and 7.083 MHz. 73, Darrell VA7TO -- Darrell Bellerive ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] 2B Receiver Preselector Knob
Hi Mark, I think that these are pretty scarce. I've been looking for a while too. I have had some success with crazy glue and then being careful tightening the setscrew. Yes, the Preselector knobs on the 2-B and 2-C are the same. At least on the receivers I have. That knob style seems to be used on the preselectors of the receivers and the tuning control of the q-multipliers. Not sure of the 2-A, the photos look like they may be the same as well. The 2-C and 2-NT other knobs are very similar to the preselector knobs on the 2-B and 2-C, the only difference I see is the silver indicator mark. I need one of these too. 73, Darrell VA7TO Darrell Bellerive On 13-01-04 05:25 PM, Mark wrote: Hi, Does anyone have a 2B Preselector knob for sale, or know where I can get one? While mine is still working, it has a crack in it. If not, does anyone know who supplied them to Drake? Finally, it looks as it the 2C used the same knob. Is that true? Thanks and 73, Mark NO8J ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Wanted 2-B Band Crystals
I am looking for the following band crystals for my Drake 2-B. I want to expand coverage to all amateur bands from 160 meters through 10 meters. I already have the 160 meter conversion for the A band. I am hoping to find used crystals rather than have new ones built, but have the feeling these will be scarce on the used market. Here's to hoping though... 9.0 MHz for 60 meter band on switch position B 14.0 MHz for 30 meter band on switch position C 14.5 MHz for 17 meter band on switch position D Third overtone type: 21.0 MHz for 12 meter band on switch position E 24.5 MHz for 10 meter band on switch position 10-1 25.6 MHz for 10 meter band on switch position 10-3 Please contact me off list. 73, Darrell VA7TO -- Darrell Bellerive ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Collins, Drake etc.
My first receiver was a used Hallicrafters SX-140. I did not have a manual with it, and it was many, many years after I sold it that I realized it had a regenerative detector. My recollections of it were of very poor selectivity. Perhaps this is just due to my not knowing how to adjust the regenerative knob properly. It was labeled Selectivity/BFO so I always figured straight up for CW, a bit left for LSB and a bit to the right for USB. Funny thinking about it know, but I was 15 years old and studying for my licence at the time. Once I got my licence I upgraded to an Heathkit SB-101. A couple of times now I have almost bought another SX-140 just to try it out with the proper use of that selectivity/BFO control and see if it really was as bad as I remember or if it was just me. 73, Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Station VA7TO On 06/17/11 07:33, kc9...@aol.com wrote: Interesting conversation! 3) Halli's...just fun to use and performance is really goos as well...better than most may think/remember 73, Lee, KC9CDT ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Ten-Tec and Drake Compared
My only Ten-Tec rig was an Argo 509. I was very impressed with the receiver, except for the AGC pops. I sold it years ago, so a side by side comparison with my Drake 2B is not possible. If my memory is correct, I would give the edge to the 2B. I really like my 2B. Someday perhaps I can collect a Triton IV, Corsair, R-4B, TR-7, and compare them all side by side. I doubt I will ever spend the money on a Collins, but My impression of the early Ten-Tec's were that they tried to keep the price down more than Drake and much more than Collins. Cheaper cases, knobs, etc. The PTO rebuild frequency of the Ten-Tec may also stem from this as well. Ten-Tec definitely catered to the QSK CW crowd. I know that the Drake 4-line could be made to work QSK with an external T/R switch. Has anyone on list done this and can comment on the QSK performance? Escpecially how it compares to Ten-Tec's QSK. 73, Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Station VA7TO On 06/16/11 22:14, geoffrey mendelson wrote: On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Darrell Bellerive wrote: In the 70's Ten-Tec had the Tritons, and early Omni's, with the Corsairs in the early 80's. Before the Corsairs, with the Tritons, Argos, early OMNIs and Century (21,22, 22 digital display) rigs Ten-Tec went for simplicity of design and good sound. Compared to the design of the Colins (sophistocated and no expense spared), the Drake (near genius), the Ten-Tec rigs look like they were designed by copying pages from Doug DeMaw's books. I am NOT saying that the Ten-Tec rigs are poor performers, far from it. For casual rag chewing, I'd put my Argo 509 or Trition IV Digital (display, not oscillator) against any modern rig. In the Drake rigs I've seen every part is carefully placed, every wire carefully run, every joint carefully soldered. My SPR-4 manual warns against changing the length or route of wires as it may affect performance. I don't know if it would affect the Ten-Tec rigs in the same way, but it does not seem so. The designs seem to be simple circuits. The Century rigs have direct coversion receivers. Geoff. ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] First Rigs - If you could do it all over again, what would your first station be?
The threads about the comparisons of the Drake, Collins, etc. has got me thinking about my first receiver and station. Licenced at the age of 15 back in 1975, I bought used gear from the local club members, not giving any thought as to what was great, good, or bad in terms of design or performance. It was available and so that's what I got. If I knew then, what I know now, my first receiver and station would have been totally different. If I could have afforded it a new Drake R-4B or if money was not available, a used Drake 2B would have been my first receiver rather than the Hallicrafters SX-140. So if you knew then what you know now, what would have been your first station and what year would it have been? 73, Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Station VA7TO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Ten-Tec and Drake Compared
I notice the use of sidetones, and receiver muting does not seem to be commonly used in separate operation on the same frequency. Obviously sidetone would be needed when operating on different transmit and receive frequencies. I have often wondered about the lack of sidetone circuits in vintage transmitters. I have always had transcievers and sidetone, so it all just seems odd to me. :-) 73, Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Station VA7TO On 06/17/11 10:18, Paul Christensen wrote: The beauty of this system is that the PIN diode switch allows just enough Tx to Rx leakage for one to get about a 10 dB over S9 signal on the receiver while transmitting in CW. So, you're listing to your own signal in real time and switching is so fast that your own signal is heard as just another signal on the band. The Tx and Rx VFOs are free-running and do not have the handicap of needing to switch by the amount of the CW offset between T/R excursions. Paul, W9AC ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Sidetones (was Ten-Tec and Drake Compared)
I notice that most vintage receivers provide a mute, at least the ones I've seen, yet it's use doesn't seem to be that popular. Was this just because the transmitters lacked sidetone or was there other reasons such as timing or poor recovery? 73, Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Station VA7TO On 06/17/11 14:48, leecra...@aol.com wrote: Darrell, I agree with you 100% on the lack of sidetone, etc. on vintage equipment. When I completed my ultimate boatanchor CW transmitter last year, I included sidetone, pumped through the matching homebrew receiver's audio and well as the muting you mentioned. 73 Lee WB6SSW ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Ten-Tec and Drake Compared
Wow, what a great thread on Collins vs. Drake. I've never had the privilege of using any Collins gear, so this has been very enlightening. Thanks all for keeping this so objective. It seems Ten-Tec came along much later in the game than Drake or Collins, but also has a high regard from their owners. With the head start that Drake and Collins had, perhaps it is not as fair a comparison. In the 70's Ten-Tec had the Tritons, and early Omni's, with the Corsairs in the early 80's. So, how about a comparison of the Drake 4 and 7 lines with the above mentioned Ten-Tec rigs? 73, Darrell VA7TO -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Station VA7TO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] 2B vs. Hammarlund?
Anyone own both a Drake 2B and an Hammarlund HQ-145 and can describe how the two compare. While obviously made with different purposes in mind, I am curious as to how the two compare at receiving signals. The 2B really impresses me on CW, but I find the bandwidth a bit narrow for AM. I suspect the Hammerlund would be much better for AM, but wonder how it does on CW. Is it as stable or as selective. I do have the 2BQ Q-Multiplier and find it is wonderful for CW. -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Station VA7TO Grand Forks BC Canada ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] WTB: 2B Preselector Knob
The cracked preselector knob on my 2B finally broke. Anyone have one they want to sell or know of a source for one? -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Lubricants?
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I received a personal email from Bill Frost, the Service Manager for Drake for the last 40+ years. He offered this information, reprinted here with his kind permission, with regards to lubricating the Drake 2-B receiver: In regard to lubrication, we (Drake Service Department) always used a drop or two of 3 in one oil on the bandshaft detent, and a drop on the main tuning shaft bushing. Using a small bladed screwdriver, put a drop of oil on the end of the screwdriver blade and then you can reach those hard to get at spots, once you touch the area, the oil will transfer to the desired spot. Caution: Do NOT allow any oil to get on the dial cord or that section of the main tuning shaft. Also a drop on each end of the preselector variable and the tuning variable. If you use Deoxit or ?? on the variable controls, use it very sparingly. Just remember if it ain't broke don't fix it. -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Drake 2-B Restoration Project Part 1
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Garey, My 2-B does indeed have the earlier circuit and does not have the double pole switch. I am wondering how difficult it will be to find a matching red double pole slide switch and if updating the 2-B is worth it. Anyone have a double pole red slide switch to sell or know of a source? 73, Darrell VA7TO On Thursday 24 July 2008 07:41, Garey Barrell wrote: Don - Your 2-B is Version 2, (change at s/n 6290,) and has one more resistor and one more capacitor than Darrell's! Both changes are in the BIAS / AVC circuit. The cap is an additional filter on the Bias supply, and the resistor decreases the IF AVC attack time in Slow AVC. The resistor requires additional switch section, and some of the Version 1 receivers had a double-pole switch with only one used. Darrell, both schematics are on the CD, and C80 and R71 are both located near the 8BN8 Bias Rect section. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Drake 2-B Restoration Project Part 1
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Garey, Are there any more changes that Drake made to the 2-B during it's production? Darrell On Thursday 24 July 2008 07:41, Garey Barrell wrote: Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Don - Your 2-B is Version 2, (change at s/n 6290,) and has one more resistor and one more capacitor than Darrell's! Both changes are in the BIAS / AVC circuit. The cap is an additional filter on the Bias supply, and the resistor decreases the IF AVC attack time in Slow AVC. The resistor requires additional switch section, and some of the Version 1 receivers had a double-pole switch with only one used. Darrell, both schematics are on the CD, and C80 and R71 are both located near the 8BN8 Bias Rect section. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
[drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Hum Mod?
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Has anyone done the BB Technical Services Hum modification on their 2-B? The mod replaces R56 with a jumper and adds extra capacitance to C70. This adds 25 volts to B+3 but does reduce the ripple. -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Drake 2-B Restoration Project Part 1
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Thanks Garey! You are a wealth of information. The schematic that came with my 2-B manual is yet a different version from the two schematics on your CD. The manual looks like a photocopy so I cannot be sure it was the actual manual that came with the 2-B from the factory. My schematic is numbered 124614500. Comp. MySchematic s/n 5735 C340.005uF 0.005uF C630.0024uF 0.0024uF C670.01uF C80N/A N/A R4768K R651.5k 1/2w 1.5k 1w R71N/A N/A I need help finding R47 and C67. Anybody point me in the right direction? Also found some mods in the B+ circuitry. I'll post those in a separate email. 73, Darrell VA7TO On Thursday 24 July 2008 09:26, Garey Barrell wrote: Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Darrell - There are a few changes between the two versions. Comp. s/n 3001 s/n 6290 Loc. C34 N/A 0.005 uF V2 C63 0.0024 uF 0.001V6 C67 0.01 0.001V8 C80 N/A 0.02 V8 R47 68k680kV8 R651.5k 1/2W 1.5k 1w V2 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Darrell Bellerive wrote: Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Garey, Are there any more changes that Drake made to the 2-B during it's production? Darrell -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Drake 2-B Restoration Project Part 1
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Garey has confirmed that the schematic that came with my 2-B manual is the proper manual that came with the 2-B from the factory. My schematic is numbered 124614500. Comp. MySchematic s/n 5735Late Version C340.005uF 0.005uF 0.005uF C630.0024uF 0.0024uF0.001uF C670.01uF 0.01uF0.001uF C80N/A N/A 0.02uF R4768k68k 680k R651.5k 1/2w 1.5k 1w 1.5k 1w R71N/A N/A 33k So now the question becomes, is it worth updating my 2-B to match the latest version from Drake? I would have to change C63, C67, R47, and add R71, C80 and replace the AVC switch with a double pole version. Looks like C67 and R47 are part of a timing circuit in the AVC. Both components have been shifted an order of magnitude from the early 2-B to the late 2-B. C63 is also part of the AVC. I'm not certain as to what it's function is, but I suspect changing it will alter the frequencies that influence the AVC action. Garey already stated that C80 is an additional filter on the Bias supply, and R71 decreases the IF AVC attack time in Slow AVC. Looks like someone already changed R65 to a 1 watt. Should I make the changes or not? 73, Darrell VA7TO On Thursday 24 July 2008 09:26, Garey Barrell wrote: Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Darrell - There are a few changes between the two versions. Comp. s/n 3001 s/n 6290 Loc. C34 N/A 0.005 uF V2 C63 0.0024 uF 0.001V6 C67 0.01 0.001V8 C80 N/A 0.02 V8 R47 68k680kV8 R651.5k 1/2W 1.5k 1w V2 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Darrell Bellerive wrote: Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Garey, Are there any more changes that Drake made to the 2-B during it's production? Darrell -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Drake 2-B Restoration Project Part 1
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- That is precisely what I was wondering. Was it an improvement to the receiver or just a cost savings or ease of production measure. On Thursday 24 July 2008 15:00, Garey Barrell wrote: All except R65 and C80 are related to AVC attack and decay times. Drake didn't change them because they got a buy on surplus parts! :-) -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] New List Archive Address
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Thom, I am having trouble with the new archive address. If I search for preselector at the new address http://www.mail-archive.com/drakelist@zerobeat.net I get: http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=drakelist%40zerobeat.netq=preselector with 2 matches. At the old address http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] the same search results in this: http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=drakelist%40www.zerobeat.netq=preselector with 71 matches. Looks like the list name changed at about the beginning of June and each list name has its own archive. 73, Darrell VA7TO On Thursday 24 July 2008 00:53, Thom LaCosta wrote: Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- The archive of this list has a new address: http://www.mail-archive.com/drakelist@zerobeat.net/ 73, Thom k3hrn -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
[drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Lubricants?
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- What lubricants do you use for the ball bearings, sleeve bearings, and other moving parts. I see in the archives that lithium grease is popular and Tri-Flow teflon Superior Lubricant has been used. I would like to lube the following parts: 1) Preselector shaft and ball bearings. I am a bit scared of this one as it incorporates a reduction drive and I am afraid that changing the friction may affect the reduction drive. 2) Main tuning capacitor ball bearings. 3) The two plastic wheels at the top of the dial string pointer mechanism. 4) The dial pointer. 5) The main tuning shaft. I will also experiment with slightly thicker washers to see if I can eliminate the fore and aft play. Perhaps a felt washer may do the trick. 6) The detent at the rear of the bandswitch. 7) The passband tuning control shafts. This one looks difficult. I will clean the bandswitch contacts with a foam swab and deoxit, and spray the pots and slide switches with deoxit. I will make note of the position of the pots before spraying them and return them to their original position. I do plan on doing an alignment and fine tuning them then. Anyone successful at cleaning the bandwidth rotary switch contacts? They appear to be completely hidden. Any tips, tricks, suggestions, or cautions on the above? For those of you getting tired of my many posts, this is the end of my weekend as I get Wednesday and Thursday off, so there won't be as many posts for the next 5 days. :-) Thanks to everyone who has offered advice and encouragement. It is much appreciated. 73, Darrell VA7TO -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
[drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Drake 2-B Restoration Project Part 1
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- When I completed my first radio restoration project, an Heathkit GR-81, and announced that my next project would be a Drake 2-B receiver, a few people asked me to post my progress to the mailing list. I will cross post to both the Drake (drakelist@zerobeat.net) and Glowbugs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) lists. I will also include VA7TO 2-B: in the subject for those who would like to filter messages. I hope that this serves two purposes, first is for me to gain from the experience of others, and learn some tips and tricks and second to document what I have done so that those following me in a 2-B project can learn from my efforts. First of all a little history of my 2-B. I purchased it at the Spokane Hamfest in September of 2007 complete with 2-BQ Q multiplier and speaker. The seller did not know much of the history of the radio, and a quick test at the hamfest showed it received a 40 meter test signal. I paid $275 cash. The radio is in good shape cosmetically and looked fairly clean inside. The receiver immediately went into service as my bedside receiver. I was thoroughly impressed by the audio quality and the selectivity on CW with the Q-multiplier. Hindsight is 20/20 and I wished that I had purchased a 2-B as my first receiver rather than an Hallicrafters SX-140 back in 1975. The 2-B saw regular duty for several months, until one evening it exhibited a loud white noise sound. At that point it was taken out of service and has remained unused. The details on the white noise sound are in this message: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg08842.html Last night I pulled the cover off and was surprised to see how clean the inside of the chassis is. It is also a lot easier to work on than I had thought it would be. In operation, the passband control did not seem to line up with the knob markings and I suspected that the knob had been reinstalled incorrectly at some point in the past. Using the information on Garey Barrell, K4OAH's Drake 2-B Service Supplement CD, I was able to confirm that the knob had been placed 90 degrees clockwise from where it should have been and I readjusted it. For a starting reference point I measured all the points listed in the resistance table in the 2-B manual. I was also surprised to see that the measured readings were quite close to those listed in the table. The radio was NOT connected to anything including the power, 2-BQ or speaker, and the controls were set as follows: Preselector: 5 Band: 15 M Power: Off Cal: Off Stby: Rcv AVC: Slow AVC NL: On Detector: Product BFO: On RF Gain: Max (fully clockwise) AF Gain: Max (fully clockwise) Passband: 2.1 kHz and Knob arrow pointed to 12:00 o'clock. Freq: 21.150 Mhz The resistance of pin 3 of V-8 will be altered by the position of the noise limiter (NL) switch. Intially I had the switch off and measured only 346 kilo ohms, rather than the 2.5 mega ohms I should have seen. A quick check of the schematic showed that the switch must be on to reach the specified resistance. The next step was to test the tubes. V-1 (RF amp) and Zenith 6BZ6 - Tested OK V-2 (1st mixer xtal osc) RCA 6U8A - Tested shorted V-3 (2nd mixer vfo) RCA 6BE6 - Tested OK V-4 (3rd mixer) Sylvania 6BE6 - Tested OK V-5 (IF amp) Sylvania 6BA6 - Tested OK V-6 (AVC Amp and AM det) Sylvania 6BF6 - Tested right on the line between good and bad V-7 (Prod Det and BFO) Sylvania 6BE6 - Tested OK V-8 (audio amp) Sylvania 8BN8 - Tested OK V-9 (audio output) Sylvania 6AQ5 - Tested just into the good V-10 (Power Rect) unreadable brand 6X4 - Tested OK Crystal Calibrator Sylvania 6BZ6 - Tested shorted 2-BQ Sylvania 12AX7 - Tested OK I had a spare 6BZ6 of unreadable brand that I substituted into the crystal calibrator and also a spare 6U8A also of unreadable brand that I substituted into V-2. So all the shorted tubes have been replaced, but some low emission tubes should also be replaced. The manual specifies a 6U8 at V-2, but there was a 6U8A there. Should this be replaced with a 6U8? I would guess that the 2-B originally came with all Sylvania tubes. Can anyone confirm this? Are there better brands that anyone would recommend for certain tubes or stages? I would like to replace the 6BF6 (V-6) and the 6AQ5 (V-9) with stronger tubes. I am wondering if I should stay with Sylvania brand tubes or if it matters, or if there are better brands to use. Should I even go so far as to replace the non-Sylvania tubes with Sylvania tubes or other recommended brands? I also have a number of industrial tubes and wonder about tube substitution with some of these. Please reply with your comments and suggestions on what you think I should do about the tubes. While I wait for advice on tubes and then source replacements, I will begin work on recapping, replacing the RF and AF gain pots
Re: [drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Drake 2-B Restoration Project Part 1
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Garey, Thanks for the tip on the 6EA8 at V-2. From what I read on the web it looks like a direct replacement. Just plug it in. Am I correct? I have four good 6EA8's. Testing them on my Mercury Model 990 tube tester show the following emission levels: ProComm (Gt Britain) Triode 81 Pentode 81 HitRay (Japan) Triode 80 Pentode 78 Phillips Triode 79 Pentode 77 RCA Triode 76 Pentode 70 The tube tester good range is from 50 to 100. From your message it looks like the oscillator triode is the problem with the 6U8 and not the pentode (1st mixer) section. Which of the above tubes would you use and why? 73, Darrell VA7TO On Wednesday 23 July 2008 20:07, Garey Barrell wrote: The 2-B came with Sylvania or RCA tubes when new. By the way, Zenith didn't make tubes, and all Zenith branded tubes were made by Sylvania. V2 can be problematic. The 6U8(A) is marginal on gain, and as it ages the 18.0 MHz crystal will sometimes fail to oscillate. The oscillator circuit is a little different in that it operates with fundamental crystals below 18 MHz, and 3rd overtone crystals from 18 MHz and up, with no switching. Anyway, the 18.0 MHz crystal is a 3rd overtone, and seems to be on the edge in more ways than one. Changing tube to a 6EA8, with its higher gain, will make this circuit more reliable. Quite a few 18.0 MHz crystals have been replaced over the years, when a simple tube change would usually fix the old one. The 8BN8 is correct also. The very first 2-A's had a 6BN8 here, but at s/n 1000, it was changed to an 8BN8 for hum reduction. There is an article at www.wb4hfn.com explaining the mechanism involved. You're off to a good start! 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Drake 2-B Restoration Project Part 1
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Don, You will love the 2B/2BQ. It is a superb receiver. Mine is serial number 5735 so your receiver would be about 5 months newer than mine according to the chart at http://www.wb4hfn.com/DRAKE/DrakeSNDatabase-P1.htm 73, Darrell VA7TO On Wednesday 23 July 2008 19:40, Don Cunningham wrote: Don Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Darrell, I will be joining you on that journey soon. I just got my 2B/2BQ in this evening (s/n 10040) and it looks to be in nice, unrestored condition. I have always wanted one of these, and looks like I got a fairly clean chassis even! Just a few suspect places from what I can see with the cover on. More later as the project progresses, but it may well be fall/winter with all the gardening and summer activities, hi. Keep us posted, Darrell!! Now, looking for the 2NT to go with it . 73, Don, WB5HAK -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] VA7TO 2-B: Drake 2B Project Part 1
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- After reading a few articles on restoration, my 2B project is not a restoration that will include disassembling the entire radio or even a rejuvenation that includes painting. Perhaps calling it a tune-up is more apropos. 73, Darrell VA7TO On Wednesday 23 July 2008 18:53, Darrell Bellerive wrote: Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- When I completed my first radio restoration project, an Heathkit GR-81, and announced that my next project would be a Drake 2-B receiver, a few people asked me to post my progress to the mailing list. I will cross post to both the Drake (drakelist@zerobeat.net) and Glowbugs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) lists. I will also include VA7TO 2-B: in the subject for those who would like to filter messages. -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Best Coax....
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- In todays world of a multitude of RF sources everywhere, I have chosen to use only double shielded cable to help minimize ingress. Perhaps overkill, but keeping unwanted signals out of my station is a factor I consider important. 73, Darrell VA7TO On Monday 02 June 2008 13:27, Philip Grocki wrote: Folks: I have a TR-4C and just getting into the ham scene again. I'm setting-up my new station and wondering what is the best all-around coax for vertical and beam antennas with this rig? I'm thinking RG-8/U.please advise. Thank you. -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] MN2000 balanced feeders
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- While a balun on the output side of a tuner will couple some energy it may not be very efficient at some impedances. A balun, whether 1:1 or 4:1, is designed for a specific characteristic impedance. In most ham radio applications the transmitter side impedance is designed for 50 ohms unbalanced. So in a 1:1 balun the antenna side should have a resistive impedance of 50 ohms balanced and a 4:1 balun should have a resistive impedance of 200 ohms balanced. As the antenna impedance changes from the designed characteristic impedance by reactance and/or resistance, the efficiency and transformation ratio will deteriorate. Just how much will depend on the design of the balun windings, the core material, and the resistance and reactance of the load. As many point out, it will still work. One can lose as much as 6 to 10 dB or more in a tuner, balun, and feedline and still make lots of contacts. QRP operators prove this all the time. Heating of the core material is one indicator of lost power, but remember that the lost power will heat a small core to a much higher temperature than a large core. So just because the core does not get too warm, doesn't mean power isn't being lost to heat. Modern automatic antenna tuners are hard to beat for ease of operation, but for the highest efficiency it is hard to beat the old link coupled tuners for balanced line applications. All electrical systems are compromises between a number of variables such as efficiency, cost, ergonomics, size, weight, availability of materials, etc. Just be sure you understand the compromises you are making. 73, Darrell VA7TO On Monday 02 June 2008 03:12, Ed G wrote: I have had great success here with what is essentially a 135 foot inverted vee fed with 300 ohm twinlead. I use a DX Engineering 1:1 balun mounted outside the house, with a short section of RG-8 leading into the shack (and the MN-2000). That way I don't have to worry about bringing in the twinlead. The 1:1 balun keeps the impedance on the transmission line from dropping too low as might happen with the 4:1 balun. I did slightly change the length of the twinlead (should be approx 108/F) to find a perfect match on all bands. --Ed G- -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Help with 2-B Diagnosis
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Terry, Thanks for the message. I already have Garey's CD. It is indeed a great source of information. I can see where it will be worth it's weight in gold once the cover comes off my 2-B. 73, Darrell On Wednesday 12 March 2008 07:45, Terrell Hamilton wrote: Terrell Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Darrell - Probably an unneeded suggestion, but I found Garey's CD on the 2B to be very helpful. It's not free, but then sometimes advice (like this) is free because it's not worth much. (grin) Here's the link for what it's worth - hey, that's sort of funny... http://www.k4oah.com 73 Terry K7WLD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell Bellerive Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [drakelist] Help with 2-B Diagnosis Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Last night my Drake 2-B receiver displayed a new problem. Over a period of a few seconds the normal static and static crashes on 80 metres was supplanted by loud static, which was maintained for several seconds and then over a period of a few more seconds subsided. This whole process repeated a few times. The loud static was smoother than the normal atmospheric static and sounded more like white noise. This loud static or white noise had no static crashes and movement of the preselector did not affect the level. The s-meter followed the level of this noise. The RF and AF gain controls functioned normally as did all other controls on the radio and the 2BQ. The top of the cabinet also felt much hotter than normal particularly over the power transformer side of the cabinet. Since the preselector did not affect the level of the noise, it is unlikely the noise was coming in on the antenna and therefore was generated internally. Looking at the schematic the preselector is on the input side of the RF amp and the s-meter on the output side of the last IF amp, so the problem could be anywhere in between. Any ideas? Another problem I have noticed is that the 'A' band receives 80 meters exactly like the 80 meter band does even though there is no crystal in the 'A' band crystal jack. I suspect that the 80 meter crystal may have been jumpered to the 'A' band crystal jack, but am curious as to why. The receiver seems to function equally well on both bands. I purchased the receiver last September at a hamfest and have not opened up the rig, so have not inspected the crystal area inside the chassis. Other than a bit of hum and a little distortion on AM signals detected on the diode detector, the radio has worked very well. I have been collecting parts to recap the receiver and add the 'A' band to 160 meter mod, test all the tubes, and do a clean up, lube, and realignment. Also possibly do the AF Mod de W7ZFB, and the BB hum mod. Looks like I will finally have to look under the hood. 73, Darrell -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
[drakelist] Help with 2-B Diagnosis
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Last night my Drake 2-B receiver displayed a new problem. Over a period of a few seconds the normal static and static crashes on 80 metres was supplanted by loud static, which was maintained for several seconds and then over a period of a few more seconds subsided. This whole process repeated a few times. The loud static was smoother than the normal atmospheric static and sounded more like white noise. This loud static or white noise had no static crashes and movement of the preselector did not affect the level. The s-meter followed the level of this noise. The RF and AF gain controls functioned normally as did all other controls on the radio and the 2BQ. The top of the cabinet also felt much hotter than normal particularly over the power transformer side of the cabinet. Since the preselector did not affect the level of the noise, it is unlikely the noise was coming in on the antenna and therefore was generated internally. Looking at the schematic the preselector is on the input side of the RF amp and the s-meter on the output side of the last IF amp, so the problem could be anywhere in between. Any ideas? Another problem I have noticed is that the 'A' band receives 80 meters exactly like the 80 meter band does even though there is no crystal in the 'A' band crystal jack. I suspect that the 80 meter crystal may have been jumpered to the 'A' band crystal jack, but am curious as to why. The receiver seems to function equally well on both bands. I purchased the receiver last September at a hamfest and have not opened up the rig, so have not inspected the crystal area inside the chassis. Other than a bit of hum and a little distortion on AM signals detected on the diode detector, the radio has worked very well. I have been collecting parts to recap the receiver and add the 'A' band to 160 meter mod, test all the tubes, and do a clean up, lube, and realignment. Also possibly do the AF Mod de W7ZFB, and the BB hum mod. Looks like I will finally have to look under the hood. 73, Darrell -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drakes for sale R4Bs
Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Dan, Do you still have an R4B for sale? If so, are they early or late production models. The late production used a FET in the PTO rather than a bipolar transistor. Although I live in Canada, I live right next to the US border and can receive packages in Danville WA 99121. What would shipping costs be to Danville WA 99121? I could pay via PayPal or USPS Money Order. Darrell VA7TO On Wednesday 26 December 2007 09:04, Daniel Wright wrote: Daniel Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Greetings! I have three R4Bs for sale. I have checked them, and they work fine. These radios are nice, functional units. They look good, but they are NOT COLLECTOR'S ITEMS. I would say that they are about average to MAYBE a little above average. Some chassis spotting. Cabinets and faces all good. Original knobs. They work just fine! $150 plus shipping for any single RX. Package deal available if you come pick them up...grin Thanks es 73 de Dan --WA0JRD .. Lincoln, Nebraska [EMAIL PROTECTED] 402-489-8063 (home) ps. I also have some T4Xs (2) and a TR3/RV3 that I have not checked yet, but will sell. -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
