[DX-CHAT] (DX-CHAT) Re:(DX_NEWS)The good Hello Ragold days!

[Ed Benkis]

 


Hello Rag.  I'm glad to see that you can still stir things up old friend!
I feel that I must add one more thought to what was already commented on.  
Remember that those were the days long before the "technologies" mentioned.  
Many of these operators were able to send with a BUG with either hand while 
keeping PAPER logs going with the other.  Also, the QSLs were filled out by 
hand too.  I laugh at the comment concerning Fred Astaire that Ginger Rogers 
once made.  "I did everything that Fred did. I did it while going backwards and 
wearing high heels!"  Maybe a pair of high - nah! forget it! 




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[DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] dumbing down tests

[Rod WC7N]

Boy I thought things had gone to hell in a hand basket when the FCC dumbed 
down the amateur radio exams but today, I saw just a small portion of a 
newspaper article that said the federal government had directed the state of 
Oregon to lower the passing score for the state administered High School 
standardized exam. It now appears that too many are flunking the exam.


Why should I be surprised.

Rod WC7N

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[DX-CHAT] DX Chat

[Bill Hawkins]

I haven't had a post in a week.
Anything wrong?
Bill W5EC

Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-chat} spam

[Fred Stevens K2FRD]

If you belong to any Yahoo Groups or have, or ever have had a Yahoo ID and/or 
Yahoo email address, it is important to survey your Yahoo Marketing 
Preferences. When one joins Yahoo, it automatically checks all the clickboxes 
in an account's marketing preferences such that unless they are unchecked, 
whole bunches of unrequested email solicitations are sent. To uncheck these 
clickboxes, go to My Yahoo http://my.yahoo.com/, log in, go to My Account, then 
scroll down to and click onto "Edit Your Marketing Preferences". You'll find a 
long laundry list of marketing topics which, if the boxes are still checked 
will create a lot of unwanted email.

If you have never belonged to Yahoo, then the source of such spam is someplace 
else. I own/moderate 13 Yahoo Groups, belong to 52 Groups, and have five Yahoo 
alias addresses, do not receive spam from any Yahoo addresses, but help a lot 
of people who do receive such spam, mostly due to the checked boxes in Yahoo's 
marketing preferences for members.

Yahoo does indeed filter both outgoing and incoming messages with Yahoo 
addresses, but very often overdoes it and blocks legitimate email. There is no 
such thing as an effective spamblocker at the ISP or mail server level, so such 
blockers capture some, but pass other messages. It's not a perfect system.

I'd be happy to help to trace the sources off-list, but cannot guarantee 
success.

73 de Fred K2FRD

At 5:06 PM -0700 21/10/06, Rod WC7N wrote:
>I have noticed, not sure you really care, but a great deal of the spam that I 
>get, and it seems that I get a lot and yes I have a great spam filter, comes 
>via yahoo.com.
>
>I guess this says they don't filter their spam.
>
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[DX-CHAT] [DX-chat} spam

[Rod WC7N]

I have noticed, not sure you really care, but a great deal of the spam that 
I get, and it seems that I get a lot and yes I have a great spam filter, 
comes via yahoo.com.


I guess this says they don't filter their spam.


Rod WC7N 
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RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] QSL METHODS

[Charles Harpole]

John gave us a very nice studyof confirmation methods... My own rate gives 
me a little better return on buro, but I am vy happy to see the vy high 
return rate on direct mail.  Hearting


Now, why DX does not use Log book of world

Being small DX now, I can speculate
-need computr logging... computers are not a standard item in many places in 
the world.
-need Internet access-- same as above and also upload times are extended and 
expensive in parts of the world.
-lack of ease of use of the lbotw...much harder than my internet  banking, 
for example.

-limited usage of English.
-getting  registered is a pain when overseas away from dear blessed America.

And then there is eQSLs...not very satisfying... I like paper that I can 
touch and really, an eQSL is just another internet message oh hum.

73,
Charles Harpole, HS0ZCW
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[DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] QSL METHODS

[John Maikisch]

I was just sending out some DX QSL 
cards and did some quick calculations on percent return for my effort. Now these 
are my numbers and my opinion and certainly may not reflect the  ham 
community in general.
 
The terms I use are:
 
PRICE = what it costs me to get a card
USAGE = my uninformed guess at how many 
DX hams use this method
TIME = how long it takes me to get a 
confirmation
CONVENIENCE = how easy it is for me to use this 
method
% QSO's CONFIRMED = how many of my total 
DX QSO's have been confirmed by this method
 
By the way, I QSL 100% all DX 
QSO's. All by the Bureau and also LOTW. Direct only for those I deem important 
for some reason and I include SASE, postage and contribution when 
appropriate.
 
The numbers are:
 
LOTW - price= cheapest, usage = not many, time = 
fastest method, convenience = OK but could be better, % QSO's confirmed < 
10%
 
BUREAU - price = reasonable, usage = most, time = 
years, convenience = easiest to use, % QSO's confirmed ~ 33%
 
DIRECT - price = very expensive (but if you need 
the card?), usage = most DX  will respond to a direct request, time = weeks 
to months but never years, convenience = a lot of work, % QSO's confirmed = I 
get return on 99% of cards I send out direct
 
Maybe this is not worth the 
bandwidth I used but as N2ERN says I am just wasting a few electrons 
not some trees.
 
I know that a lot of DX stations do not like LOTW 
for some reasons but it sure can makes my life easier.
 
 
73, John - K2AZ

[DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] YU6DZ

[WC7N]

Received YU6DZ card today. Now 330 confirmed CW.  Anxiously awaiting the 
Swains Island card.


Rod WC7N


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[DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] Bencher dust cover

[WC7N]

Thanks to everybody for the information I appreciate it.

Rod WC7N
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] Bencher

[Larry Makoski W2LJ]

The guy you probably got it from WB3EVL isn't doing them anymore. 

The only guy that I know of that is making them now is Ernesto.  He 
makes nice covers; but be prepared to be very, very patient.


http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/5781

73 de Larry W2LJ

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[DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] Bencher

[WC7N]

Help guys... I have a nice plastic cover over my Bencher with my call 
engraved in it... Have had it for more years than I would like to admit 
to... My son, new general class ham,W5LSU, asked where I got it and I have 
gone through the ads in QST and did a Google and I can't find it.


Can you help me ?

Rod WC7N
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Re: [DX-CHAT] dx chat

[DAVE WHITE]

I'm always up for poking fun at politicians, Nick - ESPECIALLY at the European Union, so there's no need for you to feel defensive.  The EU even write their own jokes - the best ones are called "Common Agricultural Policy" and "Human Rights Accord".  
 
cheers
 
Dave G0OIL
- Original Message From: nick cominos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Wednesday, 26 July, 2006 1:34:50 AMSubject: [DX-CHAT] dx chat
I see that our little DX Chat can become a bit political.  To bad.  Guess I'll start making funnies about the EU.  Wait, guess it's already been done by the signature at the bottom.vy 73,Nick W9UM"War is Peace""Freedom is Slavery""Ignorance is Strength" Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org

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[nick cominos]

I see that our little DX Chat can become a bit political.  To bad.  Guess 
I'll start making funnies about the EU.  Wait, guess it's already been done 
by the signature at the bottom.

vy 73,
Nick W9UM









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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

[Norm Gertz]

My observations through the years is that the "bad apples" who generate QRM 
and engage in outrageous behaviour on the air are also comporting themselves 
in the same manner in their everyday lives.
I disagree with one of the writers who alleged that most of the violators 
are old timers, extra class etc.
Years ago intentional QRM was almost unheard of and operators did not have 
the luxury of split nor a VFO.  You were limited to a handful of crystals.
Perhaps newer is not always better in spite of the sophisticated equipment 
we now have.  If you have a poor operator at the helm then you expect low 
grade performance.


73   Norm   K1AA

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WC7N'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'DX-CHAT'" 
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S


Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no excuse for
transmitting on a DX station's frequency.

Its hard to look someone in the eyes and firmly say "what you're doing is
wrong, and here's why". At least your friend had you to tell him; for all
too many ops, there's no one.

We reap what we sow...

   73,

  Dave, AA6YQ





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 20:11 PM
To: DX-CHAT
Subject: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S


Today I have been setting here in the Ham Shack, reading a book, because I
couldn't hear any of the DX but did check frequencies.  (Easy to do whey you

are retired and an old F...)  I was really amazed at the language I was
hearing and first put it on the dumbing down of the ham radio license
requirements but then remembered recently I was visiting a friend who has
been a ham for probably 12-15 years, he was calling a dx station on CW and
some body came up on freq and he went critical with the UP UP UP FU FU FU
etc.  I asked "what are you doing."  His answer "I work hard all day and
when I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up with that s..."

Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but
working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and
just no patience when you get home.

Rod WC7N


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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

[Zack Widup]

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, WC7N wrote:

> Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but 
> working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and 
> just no patience when you get home.
> 
> Rod WC7N
> 

No, I think it's the way the society is going in general.  Total absence 
of Rule of Law, doing it because others are getting away with it. (I 
wanted to say "monkey see monkey do" ...)

73, Zack W9SZ

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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

[Peter W2IRT]

At 21:12 04/20/06, Scott Manthe wrote:

Well, your friend's only been a ham for 12-15 years, so it could 
still be dumbing down. After all, he is a product of the V.E. 
licensing system and never had to take a test in front of an F.C.C. 
examiner and could just memorize the question pool to get his 
ticket. Unless, of course, your friend is just a jerk. In that case 
licensing requirements have nothing to do with his problem.


Scott, I don't buy that argument, with all due respect. License 
class, how long licensed, code knowledge, etc, don't matter a hill of 
beans. It's who you are naturally outside of radio that determines 
what kind of ham you'll be on the air. If you're the kind of guy who 
drives with one finger out the window, blows through stop signs at 20 
MPH when nobody's looking and generally acts like a boor behind the 
wheel, chances are your behaviour on the air will match that attitude.


It's quite telling to listen to Riley Hollingsworth's speeches at 
Hamfests. He emphasizes every time that the hams who give him 
headaches the size of small Central American countries are invariably 
old-school extras and advanced hams who've been licensed since time 
immemorial; oldpharts who sit on one frequency as if they were deeded 
to them by the Great Old Ones themselves and use language that would 
fuse copper wires, stunt the growth of small children and lose the 
war for the allies. It's generally not the newer hams, according to 
the one who prosecutes the offenders.


Personally, I think it comes down to those who take it for granted. 
Not too dissimilar to flying in some respects. I've talked to a lot 
of senior instructors and flight-safety folks on both sides of the 
VE/W border and they agree it's usually high-time older pilots who do 
Something Stupid and wind up becoming a headline on the 6 o'clock 
news because they took a shortcut -- it's not generally the 
newly-minted private pilot with 80 hours under his belt that Screws Up.




- Peter

W2IRT

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RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

[Dave]

Title: Message



I should have been more clear: "Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there 
is no excuse for intentionally transmitting on a DX station's 
frequency."
 
Yes, I 
have inadvertently missed the split button, despite having built 
software to minimize that possibility.
 
    73,
 
  Dave, 
AA6YQ


  
  -Original Message-From: N7MAL 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 21:07 
  PMTo: Dave; 'WC7N'; 'DX-CHAT'Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 
  [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S 
  And you're Mr. Perfect never accidentally forgot to push the split 
  button...
   
   
  MAL   
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  already tomorrow in Australia
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Dave 

To: 'WC7N' ; 'DX-CHAT' 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 0:56
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] 
Gentlemen HAM'S 
Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no 
excuse fortransmitting on a DX station's frequency.Its hard to 
look someone in the eyes and firmly say "what you're doing iswrong, and 
here's why". At least your friend had you to tell him; for alltoo many 
ops, there's no one. We reap what we 
sow...    
73,   Dave, 
AA6YQ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf OfWC7NSent: Thursday, 
April 20, 2006 20:11 PMTo: DX-CHATSubject: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] 
Gentlemen HAM'S Today I have been setting here in the Ham Shack, 
reading a book, because I couldn't hear any of the DX but did check 
frequencies.  (Easy to do whey youare retired and an old 
F...)  I was really amazed at the language I was hearing and first 
put it on the dumbing down of the ham radio license requirements but 
then remembered recently I was visiting a friend who has been a ham for 
probably 12-15 years, he was calling a dx station on CW and some body 
came up on freq and he went critical with the UP UP UP FU FU FU 
etc.  I asked "what are you doing."  His answer "I work hard 
all day and when I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up 
with that s..."Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing 
down of the license but working hard to support a family, taking too 
much sh.. from the boss and just no patience when you get 
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

WC7N wrote:

> His answer "I work hard all day and 
> when I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up with that s..." 
> Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but 
> working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and 
> just no patience when you get home.

Maybe he needs a more relaxing hobby.

73 - Jim AD1C


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RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

[Peter W2IRT]

At 20:56 04/20/06, Dave wrote:


Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no excuse for
transmitting on a DX station's frequency.

Its hard to look someone in the eyes and firmly say "what you're doing is
wrong, and here's why". At least your friend had you to tell him; for all
too many ops, there's no one.

We reap what we sow...


I was just listening to VU4 on 20 SSB as I was reading this thread 
when this southern-accented brainless wonder just started going 
apoplectic on the VU4's frequency telling guys off who were tuning 
up. I swear, I thought the guy was pop an aneurysm or something. The 
pile was 1about 15 kHz deep and pretty intense. Meanwhile, on 17 SSB 
and 20 CW two other VU4s were sitting and easy to pop one-call. Sigh.





- Peter

W2IRT

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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

[Scott Manthe]

Well, your friend's only been a ham for 12-15 years, so it could still 
be dumbing down. After all, he is a product of the V.E. licensing system 
and never had to take a test in front of an F.C.C. examiner and could 
just memorize the question pool to get his ticket. Unless, of course, 
your friend is just a jerk. In that case licensing requirements have 
nothing to do with his problem.


Almost everybody works hard all day and most don't behave as you friend 
did.  The real problem is that we don't have any respect for each other 
anyone. Part of that problem is the feeling by some people that because 
someone has been licensed  for a certain length of time or upgraded at a 
certain time, that person has less "worth" than someone licensed before 
that point. It could be April 15, 2000 or it could be before 1984, when 
the V.E. system started. Or it could be a myriad of other points in time 
where some mythical standard was changed, like when the Dick Dash books 
became available or when the period of time you had to wait before 
retaking an exam was shortened. It really doesn't matter, because the 
real problem is the belief that we don't need to respect someone because 
of how, what kind or when they took a test. The reason we ought to 
respect someone should be based on what kind of ham they are, not when 
they got their ticket.


As much as it might bother some people, a lot of hams who were licensed 
or upgraded after 2000 are pretty good hams, despite the fact that they 
didn't have to pass a 20 WPM CW test. Some are ignorant, but ignorance 
can be corrected pretty easily- lack of character and maliciousness are 
more difficult to deal with.


73,
Scott, N9AA

WC7N wrote:
Today I have been setting here in the Ham Shack, reading a book, 
because I couldn't hear any of the DX but did check frequencies.  
(Easy to do whey you are retired and an old F...)  I was really amazed 
at the language I was hearing and first put it on the dumbing down of 
the ham radio license requirements but then remembered recently I was 
visiting a friend who has been a ham for probably 12-15 years, he was 
calling a dx station on CW and some body came up on freq and he went 
critical with the UP UP UP FU FU FU etc.  I asked "what are you 
doing."  His answer "I work hard all day and when I come home and have 
time to ham I don't have to put up with that s..." Well maybe that is 
the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but working hard 
to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and just no 
patience when you get home.


Rod WC7N
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

[N7MAL]

And you're Mr. Perfect never accidentally forgot to push the split 
button...
 
 
MAL   
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already tomorrow in Australia

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dave 
  To: 'WC7N' ; 'DX-CHAT' 
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 0:56
  Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] 
  Gentlemen HAM'S 
  Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no 
  excuse fortransmitting on a DX station's frequency.Its hard to 
  look someone in the eyes and firmly say "what you're doing iswrong, and 
  here's why". At least your friend had you to tell him; for alltoo many 
  ops, there's no one. We reap what we sow...    
  73,   Dave, 
  AA6YQ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf OfWC7NSent: Thursday, April 
  20, 2006 20:11 PMTo: DX-CHATSubject: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen 
  HAM'S Today I have been setting here in the Ham Shack, reading a 
  book, because I couldn't hear any of the DX but did check 
  frequencies.  (Easy to do whey youare retired and an old 
  F...)  I was really amazed at the language I was hearing and first 
  put it on the dumbing down of the ham radio license requirements but then 
  remembered recently I was visiting a friend who has been a ham for 
  probably 12-15 years, he was calling a dx station on CW and some body came 
  up on freq and he went critical with the UP UP UP FU FU FU etc.  I 
  asked "what are you doing."  His answer "I work hard all day and when 
  I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up with that 
  s..."Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the 
  license but working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from 
  the boss and just no patience when you get home.Rod 
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RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

[Dave]

Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no excuse for
transmitting on a DX station's frequency.

Its hard to look someone in the eyes and firmly say "what you're doing is
wrong, and here's why". At least your friend had you to tell him; for all
too many ops, there's no one. 

We reap what we sow...

73,

   Dave, AA6YQ

 



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WC7N
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 20:11 PM
To: DX-CHAT
Subject: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S 


Today I have been setting here in the Ham Shack, reading a book, because I 
couldn't hear any of the DX but did check frequencies.  (Easy to do whey you

are retired and an old F...)  I was really amazed at the language I was 
hearing and first put it on the dumbing down of the ham radio license 
requirements but then remembered recently I was visiting a friend who has 
been a ham for probably 12-15 years, he was calling a dx station on CW and 
some body came up on freq and he went critical with the UP UP UP FU FU FU 
etc.  I asked "what are you doing."  His answer "I work hard all day and 
when I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up with that s..."

Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but 
working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and 
just no patience when you get home.

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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

[Jan Erik Holm]

Be glad it´s only 56 degs, I´m at 66 degs and I´ll
tell you it´s no kids game.
However VU4 is easy from here, even so I had to spend
45 minutes calling a VU4 on 30m before I got him, go
figure why since my antenna on 30 is decent and I tried
every trick in the book.

73 Jim SM2EKM
---



Try living at 56 degrees north!   - now thats a challenge!   Like half 
way up Hudson's bay or south Alaska!



Yeah, I can imagine what it must be like from those latitudes. It's bad 
enough in W2...we see spots originating from W4's in FL and along the 
gulf coast spotted as "loud, easy" and not a whisper up just a thousand 
miles up the coast at 40 degrees North.




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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

[WC7N]

Maybe you just have to understand what CW repeat CW iss


- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Kellam Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WC7N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "DX-CHAT" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/



VU4AN/VU3CHE was 5/0 on 17 meter SSB today
at 1150 EST in SE Va. He was workable by the numbers but spent very short 
time on any number and the
"window" closed at 1240 EST. I didn't get through today but will hang in 
there. 73 & Gud DX to all, Russ W4UBC
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To: "DX-CHAT" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/


Was just looking at the great circle for Andaman Island and it really 
looks tough from anywhere in the U.S.


I guess my QTH is just about as good as it can get from the US but even 
then the path cuts across Alaska, North of the Kamchatka Pen. down 
through China etc.  That sure isn't an easy path.


Can hear them on 20 CW about S2 and they are really knocking off the 
EU's. That should make this a good DXpedition for them.  I can hear a lot 
of "UP UP UP" on the frequency and don't believe they are from U.S. 
stations.  I don't hear the EU's so would bet they are from the Far East.


Before you ask yes I have worked them, 20 CW/30 CW and could hear them on 
80 this morning but couldn't bust the JA wall.


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RE: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

[Peter Penta]

I guess my QTH is on Steriods here on Long Island...all the VU4 stations
have been booming in. Charley Harpole was peaking 5 over on 17 today ! The
20 CW ops are usually s8-9 . CW,RTTY, SSB I am not complaining !

73 Pete NA2P

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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

VU4AN/VU3CHE was 5/0 on 17 meter SSB today
at 1150 EST in SE Va. He was workable by the numbers but spent very short 
time on any number and the
"window" closed at 1240 EST. I didn't get through today but will hang in 
there. 73 & Gud DX to all, Russ W4UBC
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

[Russell Kellam Jr]

VU4AN/VU3CHE was 5/0 on 17 meter SSB today
at 1150 EST in SE Va. He was workable by the numbers but spent very short 
time on any number and the
"window" closed at 1240 EST. I didn't get through today but will hang in 
there. 73 & Gud DX to all, Russ W4UBC
- Original Message - 
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To: "DX-CHAT" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/


Was just looking at the great circle for Andaman Island and it really 
looks tough from anywhere in the U.S.


I guess my QTH is just about as good as it can get from the US but even 
then the path cuts across Alaska, North of the Kamchatka Pen. down through 
China etc.  That sure isn't an easy path.


Can hear them on 20 CW about S2 and they are really knocking off the EU's. 
That should make this a good DXpedition for them.  I can hear a lot of "UP 
UP UP" on the frequency and don't believe they are from U.S. stations.  I 
don't hear the EU's so would bet they are from the Far East.


Before you ask yes I have worked them, 20 CW/30 CW and could hear them on 
80 this morning but couldn't bust the JA wall.


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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

[Peter W2IRT]

At 18:07 04/19/06, Tom Wylie wrote:

Well, now you know what its like for us guys to work Kure or 
Kermadec or Banaba.


Was Kure really that difficult for west-coast of Europe? Looks like 
40, 30 and 20 had decent propagation (at least according to the 
software).  From ZL8 to GM, yeah, using today's propagation numbers 
(SFI=75, K=2), it's pretty decent below 17 to Kermadec, and Banaba's 
prediction is pretty decent, too. All three are orders of magnitude 
better than the predictions to the Andamans from the east coast and 
middle of of NA.


That said, though, of course there are regions of the world that are 
extremely difficult from everywhere. For us, anything in SE Asia is a 
chore and a half.


Try living at 56 degrees north!   - now thats a challenge!   Like 
half way up Hudson's bay or south Alaska!


Yeah, I can imagine what it must be like from those latitudes. It's 
bad enough in W2...we see spots originating from W4's in FL and along 
the gulf coast spotted as "loud, easy" and not a whisper up just a 
thousand miles up the coast at 40 degrees North.




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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

[Tom Wylie]

Well, now you know what its like for us guys to work Kure or Kermadec or 
Banaba.


Nobody likes in the perfect QTH for the whole world.  I guess thats what 
makes it interesting..


Try living at 56 degrees north!   - now thats a challenge!   Like half 
way up Hudson's bay or south Alaska!


Tom

GM4FDM

Peter W2IRT wrote:

At 16:36 04/19/06, WC7N wrote:

Was just looking at the great circle for Andaman Island and it really 
looks tough from anywhere in the U.S.


I guess my QTH is just about as good as it can get from the US but 
even then the path cuts across Alaska, North of the Kamchatka Pen. 
down through China etc.  That sure isn't an easy path.


Well, I was playing with W6EL Prop the last few days, and it looks 
like the area with the worst openings of any place I plugged in is the 
midwest. 8s 9s and 0s have the fewest usable slots, with everything 
else being equal, and using today's solar numbers. East coast is also 
very rough.


At my QTH (about 25 miles west of NYC) they're audible only from about 
1300 to 1900 (short path) at anything above noise/ESP level. Sigs 
peak, just as W6EL predicts, 1630-1730ish (UTC). I got them on 17 
CW/SSB and 20 SSB all between 1600 and 1645 UTC. The 20m CW station 
the last two mornings were good from 1400 or so but not listening for 
any NA that early.


There's also another smaller window here around  to 0100 UTC, but 
I didn't hear them last night at any usable signal level when they 
were on -- though the midwest seemed to be doing OK then.


Before you ask yes I have worked them, 20 CW/30 CW and could hear 
them on 80 this morning but couldn't bust the JA wall.


Congrats! Just played with numbers from VE7 (I guess somewhat closer 
to you than Salt Lake, where W6EL was using for W7). Looks like you 
have a lot better openings that we right-coasters have. 2 hours on 80, 
5.5 hours on 40, 8 on 30, about 14 hours on 20,  a bunch on 17 and a 
little on 15. Some pretty significant signal levels for 30, 20 and 17 
too. You've also got a few hours from the west coast via long path, 
too, from about  to 0630 UTC, on 14, 18 and 21 MHz, believe it or 
not!!


0's and 9s have much lower signal levels and for far fewer hours and 
only a faint chance long path for about 90 minutes early in the morning.


For hoots and giggles, I plugged in Spain and Italy just for 
funman, must be nice to live in southern Europe, that's all I can 
say! Nice long loud openings from 80 to 12! Even northern Europe (I 
used Norway) has some great openings all day/night long.  JA's of 
course, have the best, open around the clock, including 8 hours on 
10m! ZS and PY are both pretty hot too, both long and short paths.


Would be nice if certain operators over there understood how short our 
openings are, though, and would get the EU wall to sit tight (if 
that's possible). I'm extremely happy I got in, believe me! -- but for 
the sake of guys with smaller stations, I sure hope they have a shot 
at this operation.


Now, here's hoping we don't see another few days with an A of 50



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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

--- Peter W2IRT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> At my QTH (about 25 miles west of NYC) they're audible only from 
> about 1300 to 1900 (short path) at anything above noise/ESP level. 
> Sigs peak, just as W6EL predicts, 1630-1730ish (UTC). I got them on 
> 17 CW/SSB and 20 SSB all between 1600 and 1645 UTC. The 20m CW 
> station the last two mornings were good from 1400 or so but not 
> listening for any NA that early.

I think the opening is even narrower for W1.  Note the times - most east coast
hams are at work during those hours (1300-1900 = 9 a.m. - 3 p.m. local time).

This one will not be easy!

73 - Jim AD1C


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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

[WC7N]

Enjoyed reading your e-mail Pete.  Prop seem to be right on for me except 
for 17 meters.  It is funny as I have yet to hear them there.  This morning 
I saw a lot of spots for them on 17 but was still to early hear.  124.24W.


Boy they sure have been booming in on 30 meters here.  Problem is as usual 
just too big of a JA wall although I did luck out.


Its fun,  Been a ham since 1952 and still enjoy the hell out of it.

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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX chat] VU4AN/

[Peter W2IRT]

At 16:36 04/19/06, WC7N wrote:

Was just looking at the great circle for Andaman Island and it 
really looks tough from anywhere in the U.S.


I guess my QTH is just about as good as it can get from the US but 
even then the path cuts across Alaska, North of the Kamchatka Pen. 
down through China etc.  That sure isn't an easy path.


Well, I was playing with W6EL Prop the last few days, and it looks 
like the area with the worst openings of any place I plugged in is 
the midwest. 8s 9s and 0s have the fewest usable slots, with 
everything else being equal, and using today's solar numbers. East 
coast is also very rough.


At my QTH (about 25 miles west of NYC) they're audible only from 
about 1300 to 1900 (short path) at anything above noise/ESP level. 
Sigs peak, just as W6EL predicts, 1630-1730ish (UTC). I got them on 
17 CW/SSB and 20 SSB all between 1600 and 1645 UTC. The 20m CW 
station the last two mornings were good from 1400 or so but not 
listening for any NA that early.


There's also another smaller window here around  to 0100 UTC, but 
I didn't hear them last night at any usable signal level when they 
were on -- though the midwest seemed to be doing OK then.


Before you ask yes I have worked them, 20 CW/30 CW and could hear 
them on 80 this morning but couldn't bust the JA wall.


Congrats! Just played with numbers from VE7 (I guess somewhat closer 
to you than Salt Lake, where W6EL was using for W7). Looks like you 
have a lot better openings that we right-coasters have. 2 hours on 
80, 5.5 hours on 40, 8 on 30, about 14 hours on 20,  a bunch on 17 
and a little on 15. Some pretty significant signal levels for 30, 20 
and 17 too. You've also got a few hours from the west coast via long 
path, too, from about  to 0630 UTC, on 14, 18 and 21 MHz, believe 
it or not!!


0's and 9s have much lower signal levels and for far fewer hours and 
only a faint chance long path for about 90 minutes early in the morning.


For hoots and giggles, I plugged in Spain and Italy just for 
funman, must be nice to live in southern Europe, that's all I can 
say! Nice long loud openings from 80 to 12! Even northern Europe (I 
used Norway) has some great openings all day/night long.  JA's of 
course, have the best, open around the clock, including 8 hours on 
10m! ZS and PY are both pretty hot too, both long and short paths.


Would be nice if certain operators over there understood how short 
our openings are, though, and would get the EU wall to sit tight (if 
that's possible). I'm extremely happy I got in, believe me! -- but 
for the sake of guys with smaller stations, I sure hope they have a 
shot at this operation.


Now, here's hoping we don't see another few days with an A of 50



- Peter

W2IRT

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[DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] KP1-KP5

[Rod Ingram]

Did anyone record this session this morning and have it available to listen
to or download ?

Just got to the ham shack to late this morning and don't want to miss it.

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[DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:]425 dx News

[jcowens]

I receive the 425 DX News report and calendar from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NJDXA). 
My email provider is Netscape and when these reports arrive, they are scrambled 
due to some compatibility problem associated with word-wrap. It is impossible 
to read. Does anyone know how I can correct this problem locally. I can go 
directly to the 425 DX News website and what I see there is readable without 
the word-wrap problem. When it arrives as email, it is scrambled. Any help 
would be appreciated.

John Owens - N7SEJ

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RE: [DX-CHAT] [DX CHAT} KP1/KP5

[mausoptik ltd]

Last thing I heard, there was going to be some sort of legal challenge
to the FWS who always refuse permission to go to the islands, citing
some sort of eco-twaddle about damage to habitat etc.  I heard that the
challenge was going to be based on the facts that (a) FWS staff
regularly hike all over the islands without apparent damage and (b) that
there are hundreds of illegal squatters from Haiti (or somewhere nearby)
and the FWS don't even bother to evict them any more.  Hence I guess the
legal challenge would focus on the hypocrisy of the FWS (I thought that
hypocrisy, ignorance, incompetence and high handed attitude were typical
of US Govt departments, just as they are in the UK?).

I'd heard that an FWS official had been publicly very disparaging about
ham radio saying it was "worthless pastime" etc.  Now after the heroic
efforts of the folks on VU4 after the tsunami this person can be rooted
out and publicly exposed as the utter cretin that he/she is...and
the value of the hobby can be shown.

However, I'm 3000 miles away across a big salty puddle, and someone on
your side of the pond may know more! :-)

Regards

Dave G0OIL

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Sent: 05 February 2005 19:09
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Subject: [DX-CHAT] [DX CHAT} KP1/KP5


Is anything happening in the US Congress in reference to Navassa and 
Desecheo Islands ?

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[DX-CHAT] [DX CHAT} KP1/KP5

[WC7N]

Is anything happening in the US Congress in reference to Navassa and 
Desecheo Islands ?

Rod WC7N
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX CHAT] Alpha Power

[WC7N]

Sure Jim, sorry I didn't.  www.alpharadioproducts.com
When talking to them this morning it seems that they really didn't have to 
move.  Are now just renting the space for Crosslink.

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[DX-CHAT] [DX CHAT] Alpha Power

[WC7N]

Tks for the info gang.  Got through to them on the phone and ordered new 
jugs.

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[DX-CHAT] [DX CHAT] ALPHA POWER

[WC7N]

Believe there was something on here a few weeks ago that stated Alpha Power 
was , with the same crew, moving to a new location.

My amp need some factory work but am unable to find them on the web or find 
a phone number for them.

Does anybody have any info.
Rod WC7N
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[DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:]Nye Viking Tuner

[jcowens]

I am interested to know if anyone in this group has had experiences with display failures on the Nye Viking MB-V-A Antenna Tuner. Help would be appreciated.
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] Logging programs

[WC7N]

OK Charlie.  I received recommendations for XMLog (xmlog.com), Xlog, 
Logger32 and DXLab.  I looked at them all and I really like the xmlog. 
Think that would be a great starting place for him (KD5ZPX).

I have used DX4WIN for years and years but am not ready to push him into 
chasing dx like I have done for so many years.  Now that I only need six 
more countries (oops identities) on CW I have been thinking about chasing 
IOTA.  I don't know but think I am a little old to be beating my head on 
something new and going over to SSB would be new.  But that is one of the 
great things about our crazy hobby.

I am ready to send him my old TS450SAT ,DSP and Keyer when I see proof that 
he has taken and passed his general.

Yep I am a proud father.
Rod WC7N

- Original Message - 
From: "W0YG, Charlie Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] Logging programs


Rod:
Why don't you summarize for the list what logging programs are free?
73,
Charlie, W0YG..>>
On 1/6/2005 12:14:28 AM, WC7N ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
WOW received a ton of responses to my question.  I, thanks to you all,
will
do some reading and make a recommendation to him.

Thanks

Rod WC7N

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[DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] Logging programs

[WC7N]

WOW received a ton of responses to my question.  I, thanks to you all, will 
do some reading and make a recommendation to him.

Thanks
Rod WC7N
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[DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:] 425DXNews

[jcowens]

My thanks to the many people who took the time to explain the situation re 
425DXnews. You help is appreciated.

Thanks - John Owens - N7SEJ

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RE: [DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:] 425 DXNews

[Boris Knezovic T93Y]

I am not receiving 425 bulletins to my E-mail as well, but thanks to JA 
guys, who seem to have their own sources HI, I download them from 
http://www.jdxn.net/dx/ 
 
every weekend and send to my own E-mail where they are kept.

Since old bulletins are gone from above link, if there is an interest I 
can send them to the list or put as .TXT file on my WEB Page.

73's Boris T93Y
http://www.t93y.com 


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Re: [DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:] 425 DXNews

[SzGy]

HI

They have serious problem with the server, because of the huge 
amount of the subscribers. 
Visit the www.425dxn.org website for the solution!

73/DX
George
HA5WA

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[DX-CHAT] [DX CHAT] VU4

[WC7N]

Really hard not to jump in there on 14025 and work them again Really a 
great signal here in the Northwest but do we really need all those COPS on 
frequency... They probably think they are doing people a favor BS

Rod WC7N 

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Re: [SPAM] [DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:] 425 DXNews

[Gary McClellan]

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I was receiving the 425DXNews report weekly until recently when it just stopped 
without any action on my part. Has anyone else had this problem? I have tried 
to re-subscribe but efforts so far have failed.
John Owens - N7SEJ
John,
Their webpage has the scoop on this:
http://www.425dxn.org/
Gary K7ZD
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[DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:] 425 DXNews

[jcowens]

I was receiving the 425DXNews report weekly until recently when it just stopped 
without any action on my part. Has anyone else had this problem? I have tried 
to re-subscribe but efforts so far have failed.
John Owens - N7SEJ

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Re: [DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat;] Top Ten Devices

[Jan Erik Holm]

The cq-contest reflector might be better.
Lots of contesters do use this stuff.
IÂve used them but I donÂt know what you
want to know, they generaly work good.
73 Jim SM2EKM
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Slightly off topic, but I am trying to get ahold of anyone having experience 
using the Top Ten Decives Decoder and SiX-Way Relay Box. If you know of a 
better forum for discussing this, please advise.
Thanks - John Owens - N7SEJ

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[DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat;] Top Ten Devices

[jcowens]

Slightly off topic, but I am trying to get ahold of anyone having experience 
using the Top Ten Decives Decoder and SiX-Way Relay Box. If you know of a 
better forum for discussing this, please advise.
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[DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:] Tower cables

[jcowens]

Please forgive if this off topic, but I am trying to find someone who has 
experienced replacing the steel cables on a US Tower HDX572 motorized tower. If 
anyone knows of a better site to discuss this, please advise.

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[DX-CHAT] [DX-Chat] KP1/KP5

[WC7N]

Does anybody have the latest info on what is happening in Congress and 
elsewhere concerning approval for ham radio from these two US islands.

Rod WC7N
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:]KP1/KP4

[Art RX9TX]

 Hello Kenneth,

 Saturday, November 20, 2004 Kenneth Sobel wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

KS> Letters to the US FWS will probably not be useful because the dispute is now
KS> in US District Court.

Well,  in  this case our words of curse would impress our attitude and
demoralize the enemy :)

-- 
 73...Art RX9TX20-Nov-04 16:22 UTC

 "An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep."

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[DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:]KP1/KP4

[Kenneth Sobel]

Letters to the US FWS will probably not be useful because the dispute is now
in US District Court.
Or in other words, the US FWS is being sued in Federal Court.
Also, a bill has been introduced in the US Congress to require the US FWS to
issue permits.
US hams can write to their congressman asking him/her to support HR 5361.
For more info go to www.dxer.org and click on KP1/KP5 project. It is pdf
file so you need Acrobat Reader.
de Ken W3JJ
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From: "Art RX9TX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ron Notarius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:39 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] VU4 PERMISSION GRANTED!


> Hello Ron,
>
>  Saturday, November 20, 2004 Ron Notarius wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> RN> K4RT has filed a petition in US District Court seeking to overturn the
US
> RN> Fish & Wildlife Service's constant denials of any application by
amateur
> RN> radio operators to land on and operate from both Desecheo & Navassa.
>
> RN> It would appear, based on past and present information, that the
USF&WS
> RN> bureaucracy is the problem.  That has nothing to do with "democracy"
and
> RN> everything to do, IMHO, with petty bureacratic tyrants who seize each
and
> RN> every opportunity to throw their weight around to show everyone how
> RN> important they are.
>
> RN> Hopefully, the efforts of K4RT and others associated with him will,
> RN> eventually and in time, succeed.
>
> Shouldn't we, like in VU4 case, start with support letters/emails from
> all  over  the world? Emails/addresses of US Fish & Wildlife Service's
> officials would be helpful :)
>
> --
>  73...Art RX9TX20-Nov-04 14:34 UTC
>
>  "It Is better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer."
[Sir William Blackstone [iv. 27]]
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[DX-CHAT] [DX Chat] HL3IUA

[WC7N]

Does anyone have a good e-mail address for HL3IUA ?  Both the one in QRZ and 
Buckmaster get returned as not valid.

Rod WC7N
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-Chat] South Sandwich

[Zack Widup]

This is just a guess, but since there was an operation from there just a 
couple years ago, it will probably be at least a few years before another 
one happens.

Of course I hope I'm wrong!  :)

73, Zack W9SZ


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Frank Macklin wrote:

> Does anyone know if there are plans for an expedition to the South Sandwich
> Islands in the next couple of years.
> 
> Regards,
> Frank VK1ZL
> 

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[DX-CHAT] [DX--CHAT] Subscribubg

[Frank Macklin]

Thanks to all those who helped get me back on the net.  Everything now seems
to be in order.

Regards
VK1ZL Frank


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[DX-CHAT] [DX-Chat] South Sandwich

[Frank Macklin]

Does anyone know if there are plans for an expedition to the South Sandwich
Islands in the next couple of years.

Regards,
Frank VK1ZL


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[DX-CHAT] [:dx-chat:] Re QSL Route

[WX2K]

Russ,

 

The QSL routes for this operation are as
follows:

 

ZD7F via DL9GFB

ZD7J via DL7UVO

ZD7T via DL3NRV

 

73,

Frank – WX2K

 

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Russell Kellam Jr
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 October 20, 2004 4:07 PM
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Subject: [DX-NEWS] [:dx-chat:] QSL
  Route

 



Did anybody get the QSL route for
ZD7J, St Helena? Nothing





in QRZ or Buckmaster. Tnx & 73
Russ W4UBC

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-Chat

[Ron Notarius]

Consider it done... and see my private email regarding the password

73, ron wn3vaw
please note my new email address

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From: "Steve Rutledge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ron Notarius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: DX-Chat


> Ron, I can't post on DX Chat due to password issue but I wanted to let 
> everyone know I got my TO4E card.  Maybe it is old news but I haven't 
> seen it mentioned on any of the reflectors I am subscribed to.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Steve, N4JQQ
> 
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Re: [DX-CHAT] (DX-CHAT) H8A

[ve7kb]

AMEN  
Enough is Enough have a good day
 
73/dx  ve7kb

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ron Notarius WN3VAW 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:56 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] (DX-CHAT) 
H8A
  
  Changing over to my administrative hat instead of my 
  personal one for a moment:
   
  We seem to be going over the same steps over and over.  
  No one has lost their temper -- yet -- and no one has seriously complained -- 
  yet -- and I'd like to keep it that way.  (Remember, as you all know, 
  unlike some other alleged DX reflectors, we encourage positive and 
  constructive comments, but flames, insults, and unduly negative comments are 
  not welcome here)
   
  Therefore:
   
  If anyone has anything NEW and RELEVANT to the conversation, 
  you are more than welcome to post it.  However, if it's just going to 
  rehash the same verbiage over and over again, then I will close the H8A 
  threads and we can move on to other topics.
   
  Thank you for your understanding and 
  cooperation!
   
  73, ron wn3vaw
  administrator, dx chat

Re: [DX-CHAT] (DX-CHAT) H8A

[Ron Notarius WN3VAW]

Changing over to my administrative hat instead of my personal 
one for a moment:
 
We seem to be going over the same steps over and over.  
No one has lost their temper -- yet -- and no one has seriously complained -- 
yet -- and I'd like to keep it that way.  (Remember, as you all know, 
unlike some other alleged DX reflectors, we encourage positive and constructive 
comments, but flames, insults, and unduly negative comments are not welcome 
here)
 
Therefore:
 
If anyone has anything NEW and RELEVANT to the conversation, 
you are more than welcome to post it.  However, if it's just going to 
rehash the same verbiage over and over again, then I will close the H8A 
threads and we can move on to other topics.
 
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation!
 
73, ron wn3vaw
administrator, dx chat

[DX-CHAT] (DX-CHAT) H8A

[Camilo Castillo]

 
- Original Message - 
From: Camilo 
Castillo 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: H8A

Somebody mentioned in their coments that an alledged "HP1AC" 
mentioned in one cluster that H8A was not legal.
Its is true , HP1AC, Cam put that note on that cluster. 

Our DECRETO 302 in Panama that regulates amater radio service 
indicates how call signs will be issued, following
Article 19 of ITU International Regulations.  

Yes H8A to H9Z is an authorized block of prefixes for Republic 
of Panama and according to DECRETO 302 there is
a legal way to used those ITU prefixes plus the Panama Radio 
Districts Zones plus two to a maximum three letters
as suffix (ARTICLE 19 of ITU). 
So if that was not followed why use the wrong call because 
Mr.Gunter Hamacher HP1XVH requested it as short as
possible for the Contest so it cold be attractive. 

They do the same in Honduras, Nicaragua and Marshall 
Islands.  That is their way to issue calls. I will not argue 
with
those countries or the FCC if tomorrow they issue WNA to Ron 
ex WN3VAW. or NJ to the NJDXA .  
But, in Panama the local law indicates how the call signs will 
be issued.  Plus  -- Article 15 indicates that special
calls (i.e HO1A- H81A, 3E1A,·3F1A,etc) will be issued ONLY to 
CLUBS and RADIO ORGANIZATONS.
I am licensed since 1957 and CAN NOT request a special CALL 
Like HP1A or HO1A or H81A for my use in any 
activity.  I am a Panamanian citizen , born here in 
Panama in 1939.  
Do you beleive that I can go to NEW JERSEY and ask FCC to 
issue me WA for the next contest
 
 
73 Cam HP1AC