Re: [DX-CHAT] QSLing KH6

2006-12-31 Thread Ronald A. Loneker Sr.
If u worked KH6ZM who has been active on 160M, Massimo he has I0MWI for 
a manager as he states.  If  you continue to read all of the info 
available he also has at the bottom of the page:
QSL directley to my manager I0MWI. US/Canada stations may send direct to 
me. Bureau cards will be answerd as time permits. Sorry...no e-qsl's. 
Bio last modified: 2005-01-20   

All this said, this thread might have never happened ;-)   Joe Friday 
might say Just the Facts Ma'am'

Happy New Year!.. 73/DXRon (-:

Mike W2LO wrote:

I recently worked a KH6 on 160 who, on his website, requests that QSLs 
go via his European manager. Now considering that he lives in the same 
country that I do it seems a bit much to request that I use an 84 cent 
airmail stamp and a GS or two or an IRC to get his card back.
I realize that I should simply work another one but has anyone else 
encountered this issue?


  Mike  W2LO


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Re: [DX-CHAT] QSLing KH6

2006-12-31 Thread N4BAA - Jose Castillo

Ron,

HNY and worry not! You were fine with your post.  Each amateur operator 
is free to select and choose by which methodology they freely choose to 
handle QSLs...and if fact are not REQUIRED to send them at allso the 
fact they have ANY means by which to get a QSL out should be a good 
thing.  In an era where our radios, amps, etcAND QSLs cost a ton of 
money...and there is no way to get around this fact.if someone needs 
a QSL and they don't like the route one must take to get it...they are 
free not to send one..and simply wait to work another one as I see it. 


Happy New Year Ron,and will look for you sooN!

73 - Jose Castillo -N4BAA

Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:

I have been privately blasted by a small number of amateurs over my reply
comments earlier tonight.

Apparantly these few feel that I am casting aspersions upon most or all KH6
amateurs because a number choose to use QSL managers.  And an apology has
been demanded by several of these.

Now... I am far from perfect, and I make more than my share of mistakes.
But I don't understand why commenting on the fact that several KH6 based
amateurs... to say nothing of those in KP2, KP4, KH0, KH2, etc... choose to
use a QSL manager warrants an apology.  Let's be honest... QSL'ing can be a
chore, especially for more active stations and for stations sought after.
That's why some amateurs choose to use a QSL manager.  Others, like myself,
look for ways to automate and otherwise streamline the process.  Personally,
I consider it something that comes with the territory, but I do not expect
everyone to feel that way.

It is unfortunate in this case that the station that W2LO worked uses an
overseas manager.  Why that station chooses to do so is something I lack
sufficient information to directly comment on, so I would give the benefit
of the doubt and assume there's a good reason.  And I can certainly
understand why he is less than thrilled with sending a QSL request overseas
when the station is located within the US, as it is a higher expense.  Which
is why I suggested he try direct with a just sign this card; whether or
not it works, well, we'll see.

But, how that casts aspersions on all KH6 amateurs?  That I don't follow.

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Re: [DX-CHAT] QSLing KH6

2006-12-31 Thread Mike W2LO


   Thanks to everyone for their input. I've been in this game almost fifty 
years and this was a new problem.
   I should have stated that I in fact did QSL direct but after several 
months I've received nothing. I enclosed a GS plus an SASE figuring that 
working mainland stations can be a pain for KH6/KL7 so I'd give him an 
incentive to reply but I've gotten nothing. Maybe in the due course of QSLs 
I'll get it.

   Well, it's not as if it's BS7 or 7O.
   Thanks, everyone, and have a DX-filled New Year!

Mike  W2LO


If u worked KH6ZM who has been active on 160M, Massimo he has I0MWI for a 
manager as he states.  If  you continue to read all of the info available 
he also has at the bottom of the page:
QSL directley to my manager I0MWI. US/Canada stations may send direct to 
me. Bureau cards will be answerd as time permits. Sorry...no e-qsl's. Bio 
last modified: 2005-01-20


All this said, this thread might have never happened ;-)   Joe Friday might 
say Just the Facts Ma'am'

Happy New Year!.. 73/DXRon (-:

Mike W2LO wrote:

I recently worked a KH6 on 160 who, on his website, requests that QSLs go 
via his European manager. Now considering that he lives in the same 
country that I do it seems a bit much to request that I use an 84 cent 
airmail stamp and a GS or two or an IRC to get his card back.
I realize that I should simply work another one but has anyone else 
encountered this issue?


  Mike  W2LO


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RE: [DX-CHAT] QSLing KH6

2006-12-30 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
It happens.  Not often.

While KH6 isn't exactly rare, it is sought after.  There are many ops out
there who for one reason or another hand the QSL duties over to someone
else.  I could come up with a laundry list of reasons, as can many on the
list, and we still wouldn't cover all of the possibilities.  So while we
don't know the why, or why's, obviously there's a reason.

You could try QSL'ing direct.  But don't be surprised if you don't get a
card back.  One of the simplest reasons might be that the manager, not the
op, has the cards... so if you're going to try that route, I'd suggest
including a filled-out card on his behalf that all he has to do is sign.

Look at it this way Mike, it could be worse.  There will be another one.
And at least you have a 160 antenna up right now, unlike some of us (working
on it)! g

73, ron w3wn

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I recently worked a KH6 on 160 who, on his website, requests that QSLs go
via his European manager. Now considering that he lives in the same country
that I do it seems a bit much to request that I use an 84 cent airmail stamp
and a GS or two or an IRC to get his card back.
I realize that I should simply work another one but has anyone else
encountered this issue?

   Mike  W2LO


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RE: [DX-CHAT] QSLing KH6

2006-12-30 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
I have been privately blasted by a small number of amateurs over my reply
comments earlier tonight.

Apparantly these few feel that I am casting aspersions upon most or all KH6
amateurs because a number choose to use QSL managers.  And an apology has
been demanded by several of these.

Now... I am far from perfect, and I make more than my share of mistakes.
But I don't understand why commenting on the fact that several KH6 based
amateurs... to say nothing of those in KP2, KP4, KH0, KH2, etc... choose to
use a QSL manager warrants an apology.  Let's be honest... QSL'ing can be a
chore, especially for more active stations and for stations sought after.
That's why some amateurs choose to use a QSL manager.  Others, like myself,
look for ways to automate and otherwise streamline the process.  Personally,
I consider it something that comes with the territory, but I do not expect
everyone to feel that way.

It is unfortunate in this case that the station that W2LO worked uses an
overseas manager.  Why that station chooses to do so is something I lack
sufficient information to directly comment on, so I would give the benefit
of the doubt and assume there's a good reason.  And I can certainly
understand why he is less than thrilled with sending a QSL request overseas
when the station is located within the US, as it is a higher expense.  Which
is why I suggested he try direct with a just sign this card; whether or
not it works, well, we'll see.

But, how that casts aspersions on all KH6 amateurs?  That I don't follow.

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