[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
Craig, I have been watching this thread from afar, many thanks for taking it to final conclusion! I would be interested to hear from other people about LPT ports and COM ports. I am aware Vista does not support these ports only USB. So my question is, if one uses a USB CI-V cable (for example), then the software supplied produces a virtual Com port even though it is connected via a USB port. Will Vista accept this??? 73's de Tony G8DQZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K0CF Sent: 14 February 2007 16:10 To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista Roger et al, Thanks for the tip on right clicking on the DX4Win icon... A little further amplification on this technique follows. If you right-click on the DX4Win shortcut icon, a context menu will pop up. Select the last choice on the list, Properties. In the window that opens, click on the Compatibility tab at the top, then click the check box labeled Run this program in compatibility mode for:. Now select Windows XP (Service Pack 2), if it is not already selected, in the drop-down list. Finally, at the bottom of the dialog box, check Run this program as an administrator. You can also click the Show settings for all users button and make these changes for whomever may be logged onto the PC. Click OK and you're done. If you have more than one shortcut to start DX4Win, you will have to apply this change to each of them. After doing this, DX4Win does run under Vista, although you will get a warning message from Windows each time you run it. I cannot comment on the availability of the LPT port, since I have never used that port for ham radio purposes, and my new Dell computer has no LPT nor COM ports. Thanks to all of you who have contributed to this discussion. It has been very illuminating! 73, Craig, K0CF -Original Message- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:07:58 -0500 From: Roger Marrotte marrotte at comcast.net Subject: RE: [Dx4win] My Vista experience To: 'Paul van der Eijk' pvandereijk at cox.net Cc: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Paul, I have tried something else with more success. Before when I tried to run DX4WIN I was running as an administrator. I was running from my usual account that has administrator privileges. I now find that when logged in to this same account and if I right click on the DX4WIN icon on my desktop and click on Run as administrator the program runs. So far I can't get it to talk to my radio but the database portion seems to work OK. I'm using a regular serial port that works fine with Ham Radio Deluxe. I'll keep trying. Roger, W1EM ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
Tony, Thanks for your comments. Yes, Vista will work with virtual COM ports created by a USB-to-COM port dongle. I have an IOGear USB-to-COM port adapter that works for rig control and CW keying through my RIGblaster Pro. It shows up as COM4 in my Vista computer. I have just concluded testing that setup, and it works just fine -- and the CW sounds good. It works with WriteLog, too. I do have on order the new USInterface Navigator interface unit, which uses a single USB 2.0 port for everything -- external sound card, rig control, FSK keying, CW keying (with a built-in K1EL WinKey 2), plus provides an extra COM port for a TU (or whatever), and an extra CI-V rig control port. Can't wait for it to arrive so I can get back on RTTY. Again, thanks to all for a great discussion! 73, Craig, K0CF -Original Message- From: Tony Lord [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:23 AM To: 'K0CF'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista Craig, I have been watching this thread from afar, many thanks for taking it to final conclusion! I would be interested to hear from other people about LPT ports and COM ports. I am aware Vista does not support these ports only USB. So my question is, if one uses a USB CI-V cable (for example), then the software supplied produces a virtual Com port even though it is connected via a USB port. Will Vista accept this??? 73's de Tony G8DQZ
[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
Corrected txt Hi Tony, USB2SERIAL is not a big deal I use those from Gembird and every PIN is working correct for Radio-CW-PTT-FSK. USB2LPT is something else. For the record I ordered 2 REAL USB2LPT converters that can access all 20 pins from a LPT port (I now there are 25 but gnd is used many times hi). (If it works here I will post the link, btw he is not interested in making A lot of them and he said by phone that I have to take care of it) With a special driver for it, from the comments I read all is working OK under XP, so next step here will be a test computer with VISTA to check. USB2LPT can maybe solves the problem for DX4WIN that's why One will be sended to PAUL directly when they arrive Guy ON4AOI
[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
Has anyone succeeded in making DX4Win run on Windows Vista? I found the reference to vichw11.sys in the archives and have successfully copied it to the Windows\System32\drivers folder, but DX4Win still complains about its absence, then terminates. Apparently this driver is not compatible with Vista. I am getting a bit desperate -- this has put me off the air for now, and I can't bear the thought of moving away from DX4Win. I have tried demo versions of a number of other logging programs, and they all run fine under Vista, but they are not in any way the equal of DX4Win. Any help would be much appreciated! 73, Craig, K0CF
[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
--- K0CF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the reference to vichw11.sys in the archives and have successfully copied it to the Windows\System32\drivers folder, but DX4Win still complains about its absence, then terminates. Apparently this driver is not compatible with Vista. Yes, that is correct. I know of no work-around. I hope Paul will address this, it also affects people running (or who want to run) Windows XP 64. I'm normally an early adopter, but I'm sticking with Windows XP for the foreseeable future. I see no compelling reason to upgrade to Vista. If Vista comes pre-installed, well that's a different story 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 13 10:34:32 2007 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K0CF) Date: Tue Feb 13 10:38:33 2007 Subject: [Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- K0CF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the reference to vichw11.sys in the archives and have successfully copied it to the Windows\System32\drivers folder, but DX4Win still complains about its absence, then terminates. Apparently this driver is not compatible with Vista. --- AD1C wrote: Yes, that is correct. I know of no work-around. I hope Paul will address this, it also affects people running (or who want to run) Windows XP 64. I'm normally an early adopter, but I'm sticking with Windows XP for the foreseeable future. I see no compelling reason to upgrade to Vista. If Vista comes pre-installed, well that's a different story 73 - Jim AD1C Jim, Thanks for your comments. Your last sentence is, of course, the key. Vista came pre-installed on my new Dell XPS-410 PC. XP is no longer available from Dell. And here I sit, broken hearted... 73, Craig, K0CF
[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
I do not recommend anyone who wants to use much of the ham radio software that is available today to upgrade to Vista. I had to purchase the XYL a new computer and as it turned out, Jan 30, 2007 was the first release day for Vista. In fact you could not find any computer on the shelves with XP or 2K on them. Vista is running fine for what the XYL does, but we have had a number of difficulties. DX4Win doe not run correctly. No problem, she can use my XP machine if propagation ever improves and we can run a few contest. Many of the ActiveX components and Windows DLL that were developed with early C compilers probably will not function or function erratically. Software that accesses the internet will also have problems depending on how you have the firewall and User Control setup. It is also interesting to note that out of the box, it downloaded about 100 Microsoft security updates once I got the firewall in Windows and MacAfee to behave properly. Jeff Steinkamp - N7YG Tucson, AZ SCUD Missile Coordinates N32-13-55.01 W110-50-51.91 http://n7yg.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jksteinkamp Linux User #420428 Skype : jeff.steinkamp ___ A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS, but it uses up three thousand times the memory on your computer. - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: K0CF [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 08:17 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista --- K0CF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the reference to vichw11.sys in the archives and have successfully copied it to the Windows\System32\drivers folder, but DX4Win still complains about its absence, then terminates. Apparently this driver is not compatible with Vista. Yes, that is correct. I know of no work-around. I hope Paul will address this, it also affects people running (or who want to run) Windows XP 64. I'm normally an early adopter, but I'm sticking with Windows XP for the foreseeable future. I see no compelling reason to upgrade to Vista. If Vista comes pre-installed, well that's a different story 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
Pete Smith (pete.n4zr at gmail.com) wrote: This is really a shot in the dark, but in Googling for references to this driver I found one reference that suggested both vichw11.sys and vichw11.dxd need to be in that directory to work properly with some applications. Is the latter there? 73, Pete Pete, Thanks for the suggestions. The second file that was in dx4w702\drivers is actually vichw11.vxd, and it was NOT in the System32\drivers folder. Unfortunately, copying it there did not help. (Both of these driver files are in the dx4w702\drivers folder. The error message from DX4Win directed me to copy just the .sys file to the Windows drivers folder, but both have been copied.) Paul, are you listening? Please help us out here! 73, Craig, K0CF
[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
If I were forced to buy a new computer that came with Vista pre-installed, I would simply reformat the hard disk and install XP. What is wrong with doing that and getting to run Dx4win and other programs? 73 - John, W4AU -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM
[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
Guess that's why I keep my old Pentium II w/Win98SE for my ham station. Also runs Writelog and N1MM just fine. Oh yes, plus those RS232 and LPT ports... 73, Frank W2YK -Original Message- From: John Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 13, 2007 1:01 PM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista If I were forced to buy a new computer that came with Vista pre-installed, I would simply reformat the hard disk and install XP. What is wrong with doing that and getting to run Dx4win and other programs? 73 - John, W4AU
[Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista
--- John Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I were forced to buy a new computer that came with Vista pre-installed, I would simply reformat the hard disk and install XP. What is wrong with doing that and getting to run Dx4win and other programs? Not everyone has a licensed copy of Windows XP that can be installed. Say he gave the old computer to another family member. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 13 13:34:14 2007 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Reisert AD1C) Date: Tue Feb 13 13:38:10 2007 Subject: [Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.s. you can buy a full OEM copy of Windows XP Pro (full install, not upgrade) for $139 at http://www.newegg.com/ --- John Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I were forced to buy a new computer that came with Vista pre-installed, I would simply reformat the hard disk and install XP. What is wrong with doing that and getting to run Dx4win and other programs? Not everyone has a licensed copy of Windows XP that can be installed. Say he gave the old computer to another family member. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 13 13:49:27 2007 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anders Janis SM4RNA) Date: Tue Feb 13 13:53:27 2007 Subject: [Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reason to migrate to x64 or Vista can be many but up to each and everyone. Generally is progress dificult to stop. I remeber the same discusions when Win95 came. For med came the difference when I started the PC with x64 for the first time. Took less than 1/4 of the time just to boot. (clean install compared to clean install). Then it only got better, A main reason is also that my hardware is 64bit and to run it in emulatormode WOW or what it is called is not apeeling. DX4Win is the only soft that not work in x64 for me. /Anders - Original Message - From: John Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:01 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] DX4Win on Windows Vista If I were forced to buy a new computer that came with Vista pre-installed, I would simply reformat the hard disk and install XP. What is wrong with doing that and getting to run Dx4win and other programs? 73 - John, W4AU -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win