[e-gold-list] looking for E-Bullion
Good morning everyone, we are looking for 1300 US$ worth of E-Bullion, we can swap for E-gold or send wire, just let us know. Thanks! Yvonne Euro Gold Line B.V. = Get your free e-gold, E-Bullion or EVO cash account. Visit http://www.eurogoldline.nl Take a look at the new Euro Gold Line, more than just an exhange agent for digital currencies, we can now offer a variety of financial products to fit your needs, with more on the way. Stop getting ripped off, learn how to fight back, join http://www.e-told.com/139538 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
This means that in addition to the $100 for sponsoring a Redemption Center, if you sponsor just one RC who uses the same amount of Liberty Dollars Online monthly as you do, you will effectively get 20% on your money. If you sponsor just 9 friends, who use the same amount of ALD monthly as you do, you will get your money for free. If you sponsor 100 friends, get $10,000 and you can live for free on the ALD. Hi, Can you please tell me what's the catch here? Where is this easy 20% on my money going to come from? Is this a good old Ponzi , or what? Sorry, but this kind of easy money proposals makes me very suspicious Danny --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
At 8:13 PM +0200 11/19/02, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: .. Can you please tell me what's the catch here? Where is this easy 20% on my money going to come from? Is this a good old Ponzi , or what? Sorry, but this kind of easy money proposals makes me very suspicious Actually, it's not a Ponzi - IMO it's a case of chutzpah (but the good kind, a-la J.S.G. Boggs) working. Silver, at the moment, sells for less than five bucks an ounce, and the key is that Bernard has unilaterally declared an ounce of silver = $10 of his bucks (which Bernard spends at face! (in fact, I witnessed an exchange between him Boggs, and I'd love to have that Boggs $100 the Norfed ALCs that formed the transaction!). Bernard's coins are pretty and shiny and people can touch them, so they're popular, and now Bernard's doing an electronic currency I guess, but presumably as long as silver's less than five bucks per ounce and they're selling it for ten! there's room for a 20% profit (or else I'm getting the math wrong!). IMO, all this points out what an incredibly-good deal e-silver is, even with the larger-than-gold mark-up it gets. :^) JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
At 07:43 AM 11/20/2002 -0500, James M. Ray wrote: ... Silver, at the moment, sells for less than five bucks an ounce, and the key is that Bernard has unilaterally declared an ounce of silver = $10 of his bucks ... Please tell us where you can buy one ounce minted silver coins for anywhere near five bucks. I believe the five buck spot price is only for bullion traders purchasing 100 oz bars. Regards, Patrick http://fexl.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
On 20 Nov 2002, at 9:32, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: Please tell us where you can buy one ounce minted silver coins for anywhere near five bucks. Patrick, The best price you can get these days for a one ounce silver coin (Say a Silver Maple Leaf) is $6.81-$7.00 STill a lot cheaper than $10. Claude Cormier Ormetal Inc. http://www.ormetal.com = Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/keys/ClaudeCormier.asc = --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
Please tell us where you can buy one ounce minted silver coins for anywhere near five bucks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=801629420 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=802503510 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=803091932 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1394555809 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1394555722 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1394897993 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1394898148 etc. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
At 9:36 AM -0500 11/20/02, C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: ... The best price you can get these days for a one ounce silver coin (Say a Silver Maple Leaf) is $6.81-$7.00 STill a lot cheaper than $10. Claude's right. Seigniorage is the net revenue from issuing stuff like coins (in this case electronic money). It comes from the (often substantial) difference* between face value and the cost of production/distribution. The smaller the coin, the worse it gets. For example, I LOVE my 1 gram Credit Suisse gold bar, and I got a good deal on it, but I ended up paying almost $20, back when gold was somewhere between $8 $9/gram instead of over $10! JMR * If you think Bernard has chutzpah, you ought to see the cost of printing/issuing the average unit of government-money! I think a $1 bill costs about $0.11 to print, IIRC. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
At 09:36 AM 11/20/2002 -0500, C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: On 20 Nov 2002, at 9:32, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: Please tell us where you can buy one ounce minted silver coins for anywhere near five bucks. Patrick, The best price you can get these days for a one ounce silver coin (Say a Silver Maple Leaf) is $6.81-$7.00 STill a lot cheaper than $10. Thanks for the information Claude! So now we can see that von NotHaus' chutzpah factor is more like 43%, not the 100% that Jim Ray implied. :-) They had to walk a difficult line when they designed the Liberty coin. They decided to denominate it in dollars so it would be familiar. But then the question became, how many dollars? Any number you choose is somewhat arbitrary, since it will almost never equal the spot price of silver or the asking price of most silver bullion coins. So what's the correct number? Five? Too low. Ten? Seems about right. Twenty? Too high. Certainly they didn't want to use something like 7.50 or 8. Some would argue that this inherent difficulty is evidence that denominating a precious metal coin in dollars is a bad idea to being with. Personally I wouldn't go that far. But once you decide to denominate a coin in dollars, you have to pick a reasonable and workable number. I think Ten is pretty good. The problem with most bullion coins is they either have no denomination in national units or an unreasonably low denomination -- for example, a one ounce gold coin denominated as Fifty Dollars. It's a sick joke. If you're going to have a precious metal coin denominated in familiar units, and you want that coin to circulate and spend as those units, I think you have to err a bit on the high side. So, the $3.00 spread between the Silver Maple Leaf and the Liberty coin is the price you pay for having the words Ten Dollars stamped on the coin. :-) -- Patrick http://fexl.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] IS Graham Kelly of GOLDNOW a scammer ?
Sorry to disturb the List, but MAYBE I will get a reply AND the e-gold I purchased, after sending the message here !? USD 2,150 have been sent by IMO to GOLDNOW on October 11th (yes, October!) Today, NO e-gold has been credited ion my account. I was away and checked only yesterday when back in my place. After emailing Graham on the 18th of November, I got a reply It seems strange that we haven't paid it... I'll look into this in the AM! Sorry for the delay Today NO more reply, I emailed him 3 times, he seems to be dead ! So, is GOLDNOW a scam ? Henri DELGADO --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Credit Cards at PayBYGold
Dear Friends, I am pleased to inform eveybody that, as requested by many clients, PayByGold is now able to fund your EGold/GoldMoney/Ebullion/NetPay or EvoCash accounts by means of credit card deposits, at the lowest fees available on the market! Pls visit www.paybygold.com and see for yourself As usual Have a great day marco lavanna www.paybygold.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Visit Gold
Ben, It's still an outside chance of course, and other than starting a tunnel you just have to take it on trust that the gold is there and Shhh!! I'm almost done with the tunnel... I'll be inside the vault in a few weeks... Anyone want to buy gold on the cheap? grin = Regards, Ragnar CFO - Gold Age http://www.gold-age.net Find a reputable exchange provider to buy digital currencies here: http://www.libertyimpact.com/ex.htm __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] A Internet Gold Comparison web site
This Web Site compares 1MDC, CrowneGold, E-gold, GoldMoney, and Pecunix: http://www.dgcworld.com/ I got to it from an ad at the Golden Bastard web site. Maybe they will add these Liberty Dollars everyone is talking about here. HR P.S. My HushGold email was deactivated and cannot be activated without paying them so I have switched to this Hotmail email. If you tried to contact me with email switch to new email address please. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] I'm alive powering ahead!
Henri, No, Graham Kelly GoldNow are NOT a scam, and we are definately NOT dead! In fact, not only surviving, but having major growth! In SPITE of crooks/thieves, both petty AND professional! We have asked our bank to verify your payment method. Once they advise that your payment is irrevocable, we'll pay your e-gold account. I will publicly advise you when the credit has been made. BTW, we didn't receive 3 emails from you today. What email address are you using? e-gold list: I just love it when customers do this! On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:28:13 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sorry to disturb the List, but MAYBE I will get a reply AND the e-gold I purchased, after sending the message here !? USD 2,150 have been sent by IMO to GOLDNOW on October 11th (yes, October!) Today, NO e-gold has been credited ion my account. I was away and checked only yesterday when back in my place. Cheers! Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St Primary Customer Service +61 3 9415-7750 US FreeFax +1(800)786-3012 US Voicemail +1(817)238-9955 UK Phone +44(0)7092337612 GoldNow is now taking orders for a no-name debit card, which can be funded by cash, or ecurrency! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: I'm alive powering ahead!
No, Graham Kelly GoldNow are NOT a scam, and we are definately NOT dead! In fact, not only surviving, but having major growth! In SPITE of crooks/thieves, both petty AND professional! We have asked our bank to verify your payment method. Once they advise that your payment is irrevocable, we'll pay your e-gold account. ONE MONTH after, you want to verify a money order ? Why didn't you do it earlier ?!! You are a lier, and you probably haven't even $2,150 worth of e-gold, that's why you need to wait ! I do NOT accept that, and ask you to credit my account IMMEDIATELY, ONE MONTH after you got the money !!! I will publicly advise you when the credit has been made. BTW, we didn't receive 3 emails from you today. What email address are you using? I do NOT agree to wait ANY MORE time. You got the money order ONE MONTH AGO, so I want the gold NOW. About the 3 emasils, I sent two this morning and one yesterday, from the current address. And I didn't get any bounce ! Maybe that you also want to verify if my emails are irrevocable ? e-gold list: I just love it when customers do this! You will love me, be sure ! Henri --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Off Shore Hosting
At 06:46 PM 11/18/2002 -0600, Cassandra wrote: I live in Central America and am considering starting a web-hosting business here. This message is a feeler to see if there is interest in this group. Yes, of course, we would accept payment in e-gold. ^_^ The 2nd question, if you would be interested in Central American hosting, is would you be willing to pay more for hosting here than what it costs for hosting in the US? To get good answers, you probably need to be more specific re what the parameters of the service are, e.g. - What sort of content can be hosted? Porn? Gambling? Nazi? Commercial things advertised with spam? HYIP/Ponzi schemes? Fraud sites which collect access information by pretending to be other sites? Can your customers send or relay spam from your server(s)? How [non] responsive will you be if you're contacted by complainers, police, lawyers, or courts? From other jurisdictions? From your jurisdiction? Do you have assets in popular forum jurisdictions (like the US, France, or Germany) which will make you sensitive to court action in those jurisdictions? Who are your upstream connectivity providers, and what are their answers to those questions? What sort of bandwidth, latency, and uptime guarantees are you willing to provide? What hardware and software platform(s) are you using for hosting, and what is the reputation and experience of the people who are responsible for technical operations and security? What kind of access to the underlying system do your customers get? cgi-bin access? MySQL? PHP, Perl, Python, ASP? sendmail? Are you willing/able to host colocated boxes? -- Greg Broiles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP 0x26E4488c or 0x94245961 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Liberty Dollars
Dear Claude, I don't actually know whether the digital Liberty Dollar exchanges 1:1 with the paper warehouse receipt or the Liberty silver pieces (which look and act like coins). I think that's the intention of the press release, though. The claim that the digital Liberty dollar is 100% backed by silver does not mean that it exchanges at the spot price of silver. Instead, it exchanges at a $10 per ounce price of silver. I don't think NORFED claims any responsibility for setting the spot price of silver. So, why should they be expected to redeem at that price? Moreover, I can buy Liberty silver pieces at a substantial discount to the $10 face value. I'm currently working with a buying pool to get a price of $6.15 per piece. As you know, that's comparable to the pricing on similar one ounce troy silver pieces such as the Silver Maple or the Silver Eagle. I happen to prefer a one ounce troy silver piece of .999 fine silver which has a useful face value stamped on it. As for paying $10 to get yourself $4.50 worth of silver at the current spot price, that's a silly argument. You know perfectly well that there is nowhere in the world where you can buy only one ounce troy of silver and pay US$4.50 in exchange. The fact is that the spot price of silver is based on an ingot, or loaf, or one might call it a pillow, which has a thousand ounces of silver. Now if you want 83.333 pounds troy of silver, great. But if what you actually want is just one ounce troy, you are going to pay a premium to the spot price. If, moreover, you want to get that one ounce in a useful shape, such as the disc-shape which most folks call a coin, you are going to pay for the cost of engraving the design of the coin, the cost of designing that design, and the cost of minting the coin. Necessarily, these costs impose a premium, which you pay when you buy just one Silver Maple. So, don't let's be silly. The Liberty silver piece makes no claim about being 100% backed by silver. It simply is silver. And it has a face value on it. The same, as Craig Spencer points out, is true of the Silver Maple. It isn't backed by silver, it simply is silver. And so is the Silver Eagle. Of course, the Silver Maple (available from Cambist for $7.25 each plus shipping while supplies last) is . fine; the silver Liberty is .999 fine, and I think the silver Eagle is about .99 fine or less. But, we can argue that these are comparable items, of identical weight. Do I think an exchanger would accept a digital Liberty dollar for one-sixtieth of a GoldMoney goldgram? No, I don't. I believe John Kyle has set rates for exchange among Liberty silver and the other currencies we support, and may have them published on our Cambist site. I don't happen to believe in a fixed ratio between gold and silver. In that sense, I'm much like the market in general. Neither a 14:1 nor a 20:1 nor a 60:1 gold:silver exchange rate makes any sense, because both metals have different uses. Sooner or later, they will trade at a surplus or deficit to the fixed exchange rate. So it made no sense for Congress to declare a fixed exchange rate in copper, silver, and gold in 1792. But, the Congress was not filled with economists at the time, so they did it anyway. The Silver Maple Leaf coin has a face value of C$5. So it is foolish to use it at a cash register. You say, Who cares? but I care very much. You see, I enjoy using silver Liberty pieces because they have a useful face value. I am able to buy them at a discount to their face value, and spend them at a profit. That means that they operate as money should - they can be spent at face value at a cash register. By way of contrast, sticking with US dollars for the moment, we have the American Silver Eagle. This coin has a $1 face value. Of course, it has an ounce of silver in it, and it has some numismatic value, plus its useful size and shape, so it sells at a premium to the spot price of silver. I would be a fool to spend it at a cash register. Of course, there is a value to the fact that the Silver Eagle is legal tender. It was made legal tender by an act of Congress back in 1985. Their purpose was to avoid the duties on exporting silver and gold, while at the same time avoid having silver and gold coins compete with the Federal Reserve Notes issued by their friends in the banking cartel. To me, though, the value of the face value on the Silver Eagle is that I can sell these coins to folks who seek to contribute to candidates for public office in the USA. Because the actual face value of the coins represents the legal tender value of the coins, it is possible for a campaign contributor to donate more *value* while still contributing within the (foolish and unconstitutional) campaign law limits. I suppose there might be something similar up in Canada. Again, the Silver Maple has a face value which is absurd compared to its true value, but that might allow a campaign contributor to do somewhat
[e-gold-list] e-Pyrite? I don't think so
Dear James, Your comments do seem a bit self-serving, but as the song says: You can't please everyone, so Ya got to please yourself. I have no doubt that your comments are useful as well as quite self-serving. There seems to be a synergy there. Perusing the documents again more closely, it may be that you are correct and the previous audit which I can access readily was not an audit as such. It has been a long while that I've had one or more e-gold accounts, and it seems to me there were other audit documents in the 1998 to 2001 timeframe, but I would have to hunt through a bunch of old data archives in the event I have one of these. As there is no current audit of e-gold, and as that sort of current audit is what I seek along with others, there is not much reason to hunt for the old stuff. As far as how much e-currency has been issued by the e-gold system, there is an e-gold examiner page, and related pages, which seem to indicate this figure on a regular basis. I am aware that these pages post the representations of management, and are not an audit of those representations. Again, I would also like to see those figures audited. The fact that e-gold has gold, and that nobody doubts it, not even you, one of their primary competitors, suggests that e-gold is a different class of thing than OSGold. I think that's important in and of itself. Due diligence on e-gold remains to be completed, but there is plenty of evidence that they have gold. There was never any evidence at all that OSGold had even a tiny amount of gold for which its currency might be redeemed. E-gold may in fact not be gold circulated electronically. It does appear that it is an electronic warehouse receipt, or a digital warehouse receipt currency. However, in spite of the vehement insistence that GoldMoney is gold circulated electronically, a number of participants on these lists, notably Craig Spencer, say that your system is also a warehouse receipt system. The one calling itself major or colonel bosco has suggested that it is noteworthy that your system requires a person to own 400 ounces, even though other bar sizes are in regular use worldwide, in order to obtain redemption of gold directly to the user. To the extent that redemption of gold is possible from e-gold, that same standard applies. Clearly, e-gold is motivated to differentiate its approach and its technology from GoldMoney's approach and technology. That is no surprise, given the patent litigation that looms. I suspect that there are more than one way to skin a cat. If, on the one hand, Barry Downey is mistaken in his sworn affidavit, and e-gold is just like GoldMoney, then your patent dispute has merit. If, on the other hand, Downey is correct, your patent dispute would seem to fall by the wayside. In this second case, the matter of e-gold having a third party auditor perform an actual audit is important to those of us who are buying and selling it all the time. Let me reiterate, I've always wanted an audit of e-gold. I've gone to considerable trouble to prompt an audit. I've even looked into the matter of hiring a third party auditor to conduct such an audit independent of e-gold. (This matter proves to be quite difficult and expensive. No third party auditor has yet indicated that it is possible, but each one that I've inquired with has indicated a very high fee just to find out if such an audit were possible. Zounds.) The ownership of the gold would appear to be relevant, but not the only relevant thing. Yes, I am willing to suppose that I own the gold represented in my GoldMoney holding. I am also willing to accept that I don't own the gold in my e-gold account. The matter of an audit is pretty important in either case, so based solely on this issue, I would rather hold GoldMoney than e-gold. However, the matter of redemption also figures prominently in my choices. I happen to find the customer service at e-Bullion to be par excellence, and the fact that I can redeem any size of bullion from them seems to be a significant improvement. So, on the whole, I'd rather hold e-Bullion. The market seems to agree, since e-Bullion is the second largest and appears to be the fastest growing online gold currency. Let's say that you are correct and that e-gold is really a promise to pay gold. How does that affect the end user? Provided that there are ounces of gold to match all the promises outstanding, it does not have any affect on the end user at all. It is just another way of skinning the cat. The cat might complain, but the job gets done. (I've never really understood this idiom: who wants to have a cat without its pelt? Given my mild allergy to cat saliva, I sure don't want the cat's pelt, either. At least when attached to the cat, it can be involved in the catching of rodents.) As far as sarcastic versions of e-gold's slogan, I think I came up with a few of those myself. Which is part of the joy of doing business. If we can't
[e-gold-list] Press Release ..New auction site might take e-gold if demand is there.
We at bidcow.com just might consider taking e-gold as a form of payment if the e-gold membership warrants it...here is a copy of Bidcow.com's inital press release, you make the decision , and email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to sign up for their auction services using e-gold payments that beat ebay hands down. Chris Hogan Founder/Ceo Bidcow.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Kansas City Based Auction Site is Going to give Ebay.com some Stiff competition. Founder/ Ceo of http://www.bidcow.com; Chris Hogan states We are online now Yes we do intend to give Ebay.com all kinds of competition, as we are structured differently than they are, not only are we an auction site, but we are also a classified ad site and a want ad site, so our members have not just one option but three options to either buy, sell, post classified ads, or want ads, therefore we plan to have alot of Ebay users swap over to us. See Ebay. com gets a commission or percentage of EVERY item sold on thier site, and they charge outrageous listing fees for certin inems such as cars, motorcycles, real estate, Where http://www.bidcow.com; Charges NO LISTING FEES for ANY item, also Bidcow.com does not get a commission of each and evey item sold on our site Hogan states, As a matter of fact we dont get a commission off of ANY ITEM SOLD on bidcow.com. How we stay in business is simple, the registered member pays a $1.35 per MONTH membership fee to be a member of http://www.bidcow.com;. This $1.35 per month membership fee entitles the member to UNLIMITED ITEM POSTINGS, UNLIMITED CLASSIFIED AD POSTINGS AND UNLIMITED WANT AD POSTINGS. Quite simply put, for $1.35 per month membership fee you can post as many items as you want be it 10 or 10,000, and you will not be charged anything except the $ 1.35 per month membership fee. people should not have to pay a commission for selling thier own things, to me its like peanlizing them for wanting to buy or sell from an auction site this is why we came up with the membership concept. This will allow people to keep more of thier own money while keeping the prices down for any buyers out there. MOOVE ove Ebay.com there is a new kid in the auction barnyard, Kansas city based http://www.bidcow.com; is in place to climb to the top of the auction ladder, because we actually care about our members, what a concept! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.