Re: [Elecraft] RE: QRP from the bottom of the Grand Canyon

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Rohre
Canyons play havoc with verticals.

The Grand Canyon is a mile or more deep.  Depending on where you are, if you 
are truly in the inner gorge, you will need horizontal polarization and NVIS 
mode on 40m and lower.

Of course, if you were to camp part way down on the plateau, you might be 
able to get out from there with a vertical on 20m for example, propagation 
willing.  20 has not been in good shape lately.  I would go prepared for 
NVIS, which is easier to put up in a canyon bereft of real trees, anyway.

We have tested both 80m and 40m NVIS with dipoles only 6 feet off ground. 
You will need a stub to match the low impedance, such as two 50 ohm coaxes 
in parallel, quarter wave approximately.  You are looking at about 15 ohms 
center impedance at six foot height.  A reflector wire was just off the 
ground under the dipole in each case.  Dipole was cut by 468 formula, 
however, leave long for adjustment to part of band you want.  The reflector 
wire is made 5 per cent longer.

Are you entering from the South Rim trails?

Most of my comments are assuming an approach from South Rim, with which I am 
familiar as to geography.

-Stuart
K5KVH 


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RE: [Elecraft] K2 AGC problem

2006-08-30 Thread Sjoerd
Hello all,

Just some added info abt my K2's problem.

Measured Vagc at pin 5 of the IF amp:

-No antenna connected AGC on:   3.83V
-no antenna connected AGC off:  3.82V
-40m antenna connected: 3.90V (my FT-1000D shows abt S5
noise)
-XG2 connected :3.99V (50uV level, should be
S9)

Found a post from N6IZ in 2004 that stated that Vagc varies about 100mV per
10dB. (
http://ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2004-10/msg00085.html ) In
my case that says my S9 level is only about 16 dB above noise level...

Is there anyone who measured Valc at some point and can tell me if these
values are way off?

Thanks again,

Sjoerd
PE2SVN

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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] K2 AGC problem

Hello all,

While operating my K2 and switching between bands a lot i noticed my AGC is
a bit strange.

When trying to set the AGC treshold following Don FPR's instructions i find
that the noise level is not changing with the AGC treshold pot with both
preamp on and off. There is a difference in noise level between preamp on or
off but there  not enough noise to trigger the AGC, even with preamp on.
Could this be a lack of gain in the receiver or is the ALC circuit wrong?
S-meter seems OK to me and the S-meter readings do change with the ALC
treshold.

Hope to get this nice toy even better..

73,

Sjoerd,

PE2SVN

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Re: [Elecraft] QRP from the bottom of the Grand Canyon

2006-08-30 Thread W4ABW
I wonder if there are any hams in the People of the Blue-Green Water who  
live in the western area of Grand Canyon.
 
If so, they might have some experience in propagation from the remote  
bottoms of the Canyon.
 
I was there as a visitor many years ago and saw no antennas but things sure  
change even in such a remote spot as Havasupai.
 
73
Al
W4ABW
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 AGC problem

2006-08-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sjoerd,

If you look at the MC1350 data sheet, you will find the AGC characteristics
for operation wiht a 12 volt supply to the chip and that graph indicates
that the gain changes almost linearly from 0 dB to 20dB with an AGC voltage
change from 5 to 6 volts, or 10 dB for a 500 mV change, and the rate of
change increases abruptly above the 6 volt level.

However, the K2 uses that IF amplifier chip at an 8 volt supply, so as a
rough guess, the voltages should be multiplied by a factor of 2/3.  I have
not attempted to characterize this amplifier at an 8 volt supply.

Fact 2 - the gain of the IF Amp is governed by the current rather than the
voltage into the AGC pin, so you should conclude that there are several
dependencies that will modify the actual voltage required for a given gain.

I would suggest that you set the AGC Threshold somewhere between 3.7 and 3.8
volts as measured at Control Board U2 pin 5.  You may end up with some
slight reduction of gain between AGC on and AGC off, but lower voltage here
will tend to produce problems with CAL S HI and CAL S LO settings.  If you
are willing to live with the consequences of using a voltage lower than 3.7
volts to produce less change between AGC ON/OFF, then you must accept the
fact that you will have a weaker AGC gain reduction overall, and your
S-meter may produce readings that are different from the norm.

You may not have any problem at all, only a consequence of the AGC action
produced by your high noise level.

73,
Don W3FPR


 -Original Message-

 Hello all,

 Just some added info abt my K2's problem.

 Measured Vagc at pin 5 of the IF amp:

 -No antenna connected AGC on: 3.83V
 -no antenna connected AGC off:3.82V
 -40m antenna connected:   3.90V (my FT-1000D shows abt S5
 noise)
 -XG2 connected :  3.99V (50uV level, should be
 S9)

 Found a post from N6IZ in 2004 that stated that Vagc varies about
 100mV per
 10dB. (
 http://ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2004-10/msg00085.html ) In
 my case that says my S9 level is only about 16 dB above noise level...

 Is there anyone who measured Valc at some point and can tell me if these
 values are way off?

 Thanks again,

 Sjoerd
 PE2SVN


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[Elecraft] how to bypass atu?

2006-08-30 Thread Bill Allen
I was wondering what is the easiest way to bypass the ATU in the K2 so that
it can be used with an external AMP?

 

73,

Bill Allen - WA5PB

 

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[Elecraft] KXB3080

2006-08-30 Thread Soaring Eagles
I'm thinking that if I can build it, anyone can. My last real radio 
building before the KX1 was a Heath HR-1680 receiver that I build in high 
school. For twenty years I was an appliance operator. I had built a TenTec 
regen receiver for fun to see if I could still do it and it works fine. 
After a couple of other small kits (keyers and a wattmeter) I decided I 
wanted a KX1. I built it and it worked right the first time. I then built 
up the KXB3080. After a little troubleshooting help from Don (I'll thank 
him again) KX1 s/n 1519 is up and running just great.


If the KXB3080 is the toughest kit that Elecraft produces, then I'm really 
looking forward to working on a K2 (trying to get the XYL to buy off that I 
need another radio). THAT part is prolly the most difficult part for me ;)


Jim Ujcik, WD9HBC

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[Elecraft] K2 Front Panel Extension

2006-08-30 Thread J F
Hi Bob,

Buttons for the various filters with LEDs, a button
and LED for the Rx antenna, button for Split, VFO A
and VFO B.

LEDs for RIT and XIT, VFO A Tx/Rx, VFO B Tx/Rx.

Some of these are just to save myself from making a
serious faux pas by transmitting on top of the rare DX
when I thought I was up 5 :o(

73,
Julius
n2wn

Question for everyone: If there would be a small
hardware front panel extension with say 16 or 20
pushbuttons and LEDs (either associated with the
buttons or for independent functions), what functions
would you 
most want?
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 AGC problem

2006-08-30 Thread Sjoerd
Don,

Ok about the MC1350 specs, and my noise level is very high, but i am afraid
that with less noise there is a problem.
I did some more measurements end followed the signal tracing procedure,
where i find 2 questionable things:

- Crystal filter output seems quite low, it reads 0,17 Vrms, instead of the
given 0,35V .. tried this with different BFO settings, no significant
difference. The input of the filter is about 2,15 Vrms with a jumper over
the NB connector (5 dB more than normal)

- AGC @ saturation seems way too low, it reads about 4,3 volts where it
should be 6,9V.

My opinion is that there is some sort of fault in the AGC circuit, that
causes no difference in noise level with AGC on or off, and also a big
difference in audio level between a S3 and a S9+ station.

I have changed C8 a while ago to stop the receive from muting with AGC off,
Is it possible that the ACG oscillator level is too low because of this?

The receive seems to hear well, compared to my FT-1000. Just the big
difference in audio levels worries me..

Thanks again,


Sjoerd
PE2SVN


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Van: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Verzonden: woensdag 30 augustus 2006 14:02
Aan: Sjoerd; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: RE: [Elecraft] K2 AGC problem

Sjoerd,

If you look at the MC1350 data sheet, you will find the AGC characteristics
for operation wiht a 12 volt supply to the chip and that graph indicates
that the gain changes almost linearly from 0 dB to 20dB with an AGC voltage
change from 5 to 6 volts, or 10 dB for a 500 mV change, and the rate of
change increases abruptly above the 6 volt level.

However, the K2 uses that IF amplifier chip at an 8 volt supply, so as a
rough guess, the voltages should be multiplied by a factor of 2/3.  I have
not attempted to characterize this amplifier at an 8 volt supply.

Fact 2 - the gain of the IF Amp is governed by the current rather than the
voltage into the AGC pin, so you should conclude that there are several
dependencies that will modify the actual voltage required for a given gain.

I would suggest that you set the AGC Threshold somewhere between 3.7 and 3.8
volts as measured at Control Board U2 pin 5.  You may end up with some
slight reduction of gain between AGC on and AGC off, but lower voltage here
will tend to produce problems with CAL S HI and CAL S LO settings.  If you
are willing to live with the consequences of using a voltage lower than 3.7
volts to produce less change between AGC ON/OFF, then you must accept the
fact that you will have a weaker AGC gain reduction overall, and your
S-meter may produce readings that are different from the norm.

You may not have any problem at all, only a consequence of the AGC action
produced by your high noise level.

73,
Don W3FPR


 -Original Message-

 Hello all,

 Just some added info abt my K2's problem.

 Measured Vagc at pin 5 of the IF amp:

 -No antenna connected AGC on: 3.83V
 -no antenna connected AGC off:3.82V
 -40m antenna connected:   3.90V (my FT-1000D shows abt S5
 noise)
 -XG2 connected :  3.99V (50uV level, should be
 S9)

 Found a post from N6IZ in 2004 that stated that Vagc varies about
 100mV per
 10dB. (
 http://ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2004-10/msg00085.html ) In
 my case that says my S9 level is only about 16 dB above noise level...

 Is there anyone who measured Valc at some point and can tell me if these
 values are way off?

 Thanks again,

 Sjoerd
 PE2SVN


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RE: [Elecraft] how to bypass atu?

2006-08-30 Thread Sjoerd
Bill,

Try tuning the ATU in a 50 ohm load.

GL,

Sjoerd
PE2SVN

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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] how to bypass atu?

I was wondering what is the easiest way to bypass the ATU in the K2 so that
it can be used with an external AMP?

 

73,

Bill Allen - WA5PB

 

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[Elecraft] Optical Encoder problem:

2006-08-30 Thread n9bx

Still no adjustment, or frequency change.

In the Elecraft Manual page 108 under Front Pnel Board, 4th paragraph  
down it says.  The Encoder can be turned off By U3 to save current  
under certain operating conditions.  Does any one have any Idea what  
this means?  And also how would you try and turn it Back On.


73 Bruce N9BX


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[Elecraft] RE: K2 Front Panel Extension

2006-08-30 Thread Solosko, Robert B (Bob)
Hello All,

Thanks everyone, there have been a lot of good suggestions. Some of 
them seem to move beyond a simple front panel extension into the realm of a 
remote front panel, which also has been explicitly mentioned. Perhaps there 
could be two different products here, a simple front panel extension and a 
separate remote front panel.

Mike, WA1SEO, pointed to his web page where he has a photo of his 
version of a front panel extension. Mike, I'd be interested in hearing how well 
this works from a performance perspective, since that was a concern that was 
raised, e.g., slow K2 response to commands over the KIO2. 

It appears that Mike used rotary switches in his box. My preference is 
for push buttons with associated LEDs, but more important when designing 
something for manufacturing is to use the same parts that are already used in 
other products and minimize the number of new parts introduced (as a System 
Engineer in Product Development, manufacturing and resource utilization issues 
are always part of the new product thought process). Also, I didn't include any 
knobs/pots functions in my original list as I know how much more complex (i.e., 
expensive) that would make the front panel extension, and I didn't see any 
existing knob/pot functions that are not already easily accessible on the K2 
front panel - that changes, of course, when we get away from a simple front 
panel extension into the realm of a remote front panel.

73

Bob W1SRB
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: K2 Front Panel Extension

2006-08-30 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
One problem with just using the K2's CAT commands is that you can't get at 
AF / RF gains, also tuning via CAT is a bit on the slow side. As I don't 
have a K2 I can't look at what would be needed to enable access to AF/RF, 
but this will surely be something being considered for the K3 :-)


In fact having a port on K3 which is similar to a laptop's docking port or 
some other alternative would allow a third-party to develop an optional 
front panel kit, freeing up the Elecraft design team from this chore.


Simon Brown
---
RSGB HF Convention October 2006: http://www.rsgb-hfc.org.uk/

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From: Solosko, Robert B (Bob) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:42 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] RE: K2 Front Panel Extension



Hello All,

Thanks everyone, there have been a lot of good suggestions. Some of them 
seem to move beyond a simple front panel extension into the realm of a 
remote front panel, which also has been explicitly mentioned. Perhaps 
there could be two different products here, a simple front panel extension 
and a separate remote front panel.




[chop-o-matic] 


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[Elecraft] 10 pF axial-lead capacitor ID

2006-08-30 Thread Scheidler, Dale A.
Could someone please help me identify the 10 pF capacitor used in the
frequency counter for the K2?  From the drawing I am aware that the
leads will be as on a resistor.  I need to know the color/shape and
number markings. 

 

Thank you,

Dale, Indiana, kc9cwb

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RE: [Elecraft] K2 AGC problem

2006-08-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sjoerd,

Your first point about the low output from the crystal filter with an input
that is normal would indicate that either you have a crystal problem or the
filter is not properly matched.
Check T7 to see if it has the proper turns ratio (20:5), and the 5 turn
winding goes toward the crystal filter.

The 5 dB higher than normal at the filter input with the KNB2 removed and
jumpered is about right, the KNB2 contains a 6 dB pad which is not in the
circuit with just a jumper.  You may want to measure the filter input and
output again with the KNB2 in place to provide a better match for the filter
input.

Solve the filter loss problem first and then look at the AGC.  You may be
getting an incorrect reading for the AGC Saturation level unless you ramped
up the signal level into the IF amp to compensate for the filter loss and as
a result are not able to saturate the AGC.

The S-meter readings will follow the AGC action directly (output of Control
Board U2A) except for differences in the resistances following the op amp
output, so if your S-meter is responding in a somewhat normal fashion, the
AGC voltage applied should also follow - all the rest of the circuitry is
insode the IF amp chip.

73,
Don W3FPR


 -Original Message-

 Ok about the MC1350 specs, and my noise level is very high, but i
 am afraid
 that with less noise there is a problem.
 I did some more measurements end followed the signal tracing procedure,
 where i find 2 questionable things:

 - Crystal filter output seems quite low, it reads 0,17 Vrms,
 instead of the
 given 0,35V .. tried this with different BFO settings, no significant
 difference. The input of the filter is about 2,15 Vrms with a jumper over
 the NB connector (5 dB more than normal)

 - AGC @ saturation seems way too low, it reads about 4,3 volts where it
 should be 6,9V.

 My opinion is that there is some sort of fault in the AGC circuit, that
 causes no difference in noise level with AGC on or off, and also a big
 difference in audio level between a S3 and a S9+ station.

 I have changed C8 a while ago to stop the receive from muting
 with AGC off,
 Is it possible that the ACG oscillator level is too low because of this?

 The receive seems to hear well, compared to my FT-1000. Just the big
 difference in audio levels worries me..

 Thanks again,


 Sjoerd
 PE2SVN


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: woensdag 30 augustus 2006 14:02
 Aan: Sjoerd; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Onderwerp: RE: [Elecraft] K2 AGC problem

 Sjoerd,

 If you look at the MC1350 data sheet, you will find the AGC
 characteristics
 for operation wiht a 12 volt supply to the chip and that graph indicates
 that the gain changes almost linearly from 0 dB to 20dB with an
 AGC voltage
 change from 5 to 6 volts, or 10 dB for a 500 mV change, and the rate of
 change increases abruptly above the 6 volt level.

 However, the K2 uses that IF amplifier chip at an 8 volt supply, so as a
 rough guess, the voltages should be multiplied by a factor of 2/3.  I have
 not attempted to characterize this amplifier at an 8 volt supply.

 Fact 2 - the gain of the IF Amp is governed by the current rather than the
 voltage into the AGC pin, so you should conclude that there are several
 dependencies that will modify the actual voltage required for a
 given gain.

 I would suggest that you set the AGC Threshold somewhere between
 3.7 and 3.8
 volts as measured at Control Board U2 pin 5.  You may end up with some
 slight reduction of gain between AGC on and AGC off, but lower
 voltage here
 will tend to produce problems with CAL S HI and CAL S LO settings.  If you
 are willing to live with the consequences of using a voltage
 lower than 3.7
 volts to produce less change between AGC ON/OFF, then you must accept the
 fact that you will have a weaker AGC gain reduction overall, and your
 S-meter may produce readings that are different from the norm.

 You may not have any problem at all, only a consequence of the AGC action
 produced by your high noise level.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


  -Original Message-
 
  Hello all,
 
  Just some added info abt my K2's problem.
 
  Measured Vagc at pin 5 of the IF amp:
 
  -No antenna connected AGC on:   3.83V
  -no antenna connected AGC off:  3.82V
  -40m antenna connected: 3.90V (my FT-1000D shows abt S5
  noise)
  -XG2 connected :3.99V (50uV level, should be
  S9)
 
  Found a post from N6IZ in 2004 that stated that Vagc varies about
  100mV per
  10dB. (
 
http://ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2004-10/msg00085.html ) In
 my case that says my S9 level is only about 16 dB above noise level...

 Is there anyone who measured Valc at some point and can tell me if these
 values are way off?

 Thanks again,

 Sjoerd
 PE2SVN


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RE: [Elecraft] how to bypass atu?

2006-08-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill,

Set the menu to ATU CALP or ATU CALS to bypass the LC section of the KAT2.
Similarly with the KAT100, set it to ATU CAL.

73,
Don W3FPR


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Allen
 Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:16 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] how to bypass atu?


 I was wondering what is the easiest way to bypass the ATU in the
 K2 so that
 it can be used with an external AMP?



 73,

 Bill Allen - WA5PB



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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 VFO noise

2006-08-30 Thread Martin Gillen

Hi, Mike.

I only ever hear VFO clicking when there is a very strong adjacent signal.

For example one time I was using a 44ft doublet at 30ft at a campsite,
and I was operating on 30m, around 10.120MHz.  Suddenly a very very
strong commercial RTTY station started up around 10.130MHz.  Now when
I tune from 10.120MHz down to 10.110MHz I get faint clicks as I
tune.  If I tune from 10.120MHz up to 10.130MHz, the clicking got
stronger.

So I assume it's something connected to the AGC?

I don't know if that helps :)

73
Martin.
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RE: [Elecraft] 10 pF axial-lead capacitor ID

2006-08-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dale,

You should find it in the Frequency Probe bag.  It is about the same
diameter as a 1/4 watt resistor, but is much shorter - in fact it may look
like a round bead with two leads sticking out from either side.

Color will vary from one manufacturer to another, but the recent ones I have
seen are a yellow/amber color, and I cannot recall the markings, which can
also vary except for the value identifier which should be either '10' or
'100'.

73,
Don W3FPR


 -Original Message-

 Could someone please help me identify the 10 pF capacitor used in the
 frequency counter for the K2?  From the drawing I am aware that the
 leads will be as on a resistor.  I need to know the color/shape and
 number markings.



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RE: [Elecraft] Optical Encoder problem:

2006-08-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
While this is a fact, it is not under user control.  Do not be concerned
about it.  The firmware should reactivate the encoder when it is moved.

73,
Don W3FPR


 -Original Message-

 In the Elecraft Manual page 108 under Front Pnel Board, 4th paragraph
 down it says.  The Encoder can be turned off By U3 to save current
 under certain operating conditions.  Does any one have any Idea what
 this means?  And also how would you try and turn it Back On.

 73 Bruce N9BX


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RE: [Elecraft] KXB3080

2006-08-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Yes, the K2 is easier than the KX1, just more pieces.

I let the 'XYL convincing' part to you, I offer no suggestions in that arena
G

73,
Don W3FPR


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Soaring Eagles
 Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:18 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] KXB3080


 I'm thinking that if I can build it, anyone can. My last real radio
 building before the KX1 was a Heath HR-1680 receiver that I build in high
 school. For twenty years I was an appliance operator. I had built
 a TenTec
 regen receiver for fun to see if I could still do it and it works fine.
 After a couple of other small kits (keyers and a wattmeter) I decided I
 wanted a KX1. I built it and it worked right the first time. I then built
 up the KXB3080. After a little troubleshooting help from Don (I'll thank
 him again) KX1 s/n 1519 is up and running just great.

 If the KXB3080 is the toughest kit that Elecraft produces, then
 I'm really
 looking forward to working on a K2 (trying to get the XYL to buy
 off that I
 need another radio). THAT part is prolly the most difficult
 part for me ;)

 Jim Ujcik, WD9HBC

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Re: [Elecraft] K-2 and digital question

2006-08-30 Thread Sanger, Joseph
Please send the responses to the reflector?  I am sure many of us are 
interested!





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Sent: Wed Aug 30 11:02:12 2006
Subject: [Elecraft] K-2 and digital question

Has anyone connected a RigBlaster with their K2 for SSTV or PSK-31?  If
so, I'd like to contact you off-line as I have some questions.  I've
wired the pins in the RigBlaster per the instructions for Elecraft and
hooked it up to the computer properly but no luck receiving, etc.
Thanks in advance for any help!
73,
Cary, K4TM
K2-100 #5266
Lynchburg, VA
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[Elecraft] 5730 Hears!

2006-08-30 Thread Bill Carpenter
Well, I made it through Part II and the rig hears!  Had one IC in backwards 
(duh) but got it out and back in OK.  Two questions:


1.  I really can't hear much of a peak, if any when I adjust L34.  I am 
hearing impaired and wear two hearing aids so maybe it's me?


2.  I hear signals but sensitivity is quite below my TR7 after adjusting L1 
and L2, is this normal with full sensitivity expected after final alignment?


I'm having a blast but I'm playing too much hooky from work (I am in sales 
and work from home) because I can't stay away from the K2!


73,

Bill NZ0T 



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RE: [Elecraft] 5730 Hears!

2006-08-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill,

I trust you are not confusing sensitivity with loudness.
The K2 is designed for low receive current drain, and as such does not have
a powerful audio output amplifier.
Sensitivity is the ability to hear extremely weak signals, so pick the
weakest signal that you can hear with the TR7 and see if the K2 can also
receive that signal.  You will likely find that the K2 can hear signals that
the TR7 cannot.

The L34 adjustment peak is quite broad.  If you cannot discern a definite
peak, just set the slug 1 1/2 turns in from the top of the can.

73,
Don W3FPR


 -Original Message-

 Well, I made it through Part II and the rig hears!  Had one IC in
 backwards
 (duh) but got it out and back in OK.  Two questions:

 1.  I really can't hear much of a peak, if any when I adjust L34.  I am
 hearing impaired and wear two hearing aids so maybe it's me?

 2.  I hear signals but sensitivity is quite below my TR7 after
 adjusting L1
 and L2, is this normal with full sensitivity expected after final
 alignment?


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[Elecraft] Re: KX1 mixer discussion

2006-08-30 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

Wayne Burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There are potential issues with using any type of mixer besides the 
present SA612 in the KX1.


First is PCB space. The present mixer, which requires nearly no additional 
parts, barely fits. I seriously doubt that there would be enough room for 
any type of multi-transformer bus-switching mixer, even if were all SMD 
and replaced the 30 or 30/80 meter module.


snip

--

Where I have gone astray is that I had thought that the discussion was about 
a new design of a rig similar to the KX1 but with higher IIP3, and not a 
retrofit modification. I agree that it would be difficult if not impossible 
to fit in a H-mode mixer in place of the KX1's existing mixer. In addition 
it probably would be difficult to find space for the IF and LO modifications 
required to take full advantage of the proven high performance of a H-mode 
mixer.


With regard to the front end mixer's conversion gain / loss, I would suggest 
that in high performance HF receivers a mixer exhibiting conversion loss 
rather than gain is more useful *provided* that the noise figure of the 
following IF system is held suitably low. Obviously the overall noise figure 
is that of the IF system increased by approximately the conversion loss of 
the mixer and insertion loss of the input filters and switching, but the 
overall IIP3 would be approximately that of the IF increased by these 
losses. While conversion gain improves noise figure, assuming that the noise 
figure of the mixer itself is of the right order, the IIP3 of the overall 
receiver will be less than that of the IF system by approximately the gain 
of the mixer minus the loss of the front end filters. Also the increased 
level of unwanted signals coming out of the mixer places greater stress on 
any IF stage that might be before the IF filters, and the filters 
themselves.


With a mixer exhibiting conversion loss, the place to make up the gain is, I 
believe, in the IF *after* the narrowband IF filters, not as you point out 
before the mixer nor at audio.


Forgive me for old news which is not relevant to a simple modification to 
the KX1, simply comment on one of your points.


The H-mode mixer requires approximately 0dbm LO power if properly driven, 
but because of the space problem in the KX1 not relevant. FWIW I have had 
fewer spur problems with this mixer than with a Level 7 or a Level 27 diode 
ring with proper LO injection, and properly terminated at all three ports.


To be fair to the KX1, I suspect that you did not design it to be able to 
cope with the BC stations on 40m as we hear them here, while still providing 
copy when the desired signal is riding the noise level at S1 or so, a 
situation where attenuators can be counter-productive. Depending on the time 
of day, the level of signal here from some BC stations above 7.100 MHz can 
reach -10 dbm  carrier or higher, with 'enthusiastic' modulation in some 
cases.


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD








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[Elecraft] LOOKING FOR ACCESS A FUSE POST..... A WHILE BACK ??

2006-08-30 Thread KEN
Hello all,

Trying to locate whomever posted info on the subject company, maybe a week ago. 
I believe the post was combined with something else.

Wanted to see if they made a purchase from the company and how it went.

THANKS, Ken
W2GIW 
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Re: [Elecraft] how to bypass atu?

2006-08-30 Thread WHam727
As usual Don has provided the correct direct answer to your question.   
However, I'm wondering if it would not be desirable to keep the tuner in the  
path 
to the amplifier.  I believe it will assure a measure of additional  filtering 
for spur suppression and match the amplifier input exactly.  Just  a thought. 
 I don't think there is a down side to keeping the tuner in the  circuit.
Bill
AK5X 
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[Elecraft] K2 Remote Program

2006-08-30 Thread Roy Morris
I have noticed that the K2 Remote S meter display loses its signal when the 
SEND CW button is pushed.  The S METER button has to be pushed to reestablish 
the S meter signal.  Stray RF is not the cause since this will happen with the 
K2 in CW TEST mode.  Is this normal?  Roy Morris  W4WFBNo virus found in this outgoing message.
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[Elecraft] KAT-100-1 not responding to K2 with a KAT2 - FIXED!!!

2006-08-30 Thread N9KO
Big thanks to Gary and Scott at Elecraft for pointing me in the right 
direction.  Turned out to be a control cable problem (between the back panel of 
the K2 and the control panel).  

Looks like the 100 watt amp and EC-2 setup are next!

N9KO
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