[Elecraft] K2 operation with internal battery

2008-03-30 Thread Dave G4AON

Jerry

I've had the K2 and KBT2 since 2001, it works just fine on the shack 
bench with a power supply set to 14.2V (as per the KBT2  manual). I keep 
the rear panel battery switch turned on, which means the battery is 
always charged and ready for use. I haven't run the battery completely 
down and have only needed to replaced the battery once. Note gel cells 
have a short life expectancy if over discharged.


Since adding the KDSP2, KIO2 and the KSB2, the current consumption isn't 
as low as it used to be... I also have a K1 for lower consumption while 
away from home, so I haven't used the K2 solely  on the internal battery 
much recently.


73 Dave, G4AON
K2 #1892
--

Hey gang:

Just a quick question. I've been reading the K2 manuals and have
some minor confusion about the operation of the K2 using a power supply.

Can I operate the rig via a power supply with the internal
battery switch turned on???

Just want to be sure I'm not going to hurt something. :-)

Manuals say I can charge the internal battery from a power supply with the
battery switch in either position.

Just curious if I need to use caution while operating.

Thanks and 72:

Jerry N0JRN
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 operation with internal battery

2008-03-30 Thread G3YMC


n0jrn wrote:
 
 Hey gang:
 
 Just a quick question. I've been reading the K2 manuals and have 
 some minor confusion about the operation of the K2 using a power supply.
 
 Can I operate the rig via a power supply with the internal
 battery switch turned on???
 
 Just want to be sure I'm not going to hurt something.  :-)
 
 Manuals say I can charge the internal battery from a power supply with the 
 battery switch in either position.
 
 Just curious if I need to use caution while operating.
 
 Thanks and 72:
 
 Jerry N0JRN 
 
 

This is stated in the KBT2 manual:

CAUTION: If you connect an external battery or a power supply of other than
14.0 V to the K2, you must disable the internal battery using the battery
on/off switch. Otherwise, the external battery or low-voltage supply will
charge the internal battery to an inadequate voltage, greatly reducing the
internal battery’s life.

Not sure whether the reason given is entirely correct, but in essence if
your external supply is 14V or so you can use the K2 with the rear switch in
the ON position, which is the normal charging condition. If you have a lower
voltage supply you cannot - I suspect what happens there is that the
internal battery tries to discharge through your external supply.

You need the rear battery switch in the ON position to charge the battery,
it is in series with it. The manual is referring to the front power switch -
have it on if you are using the K2, off if you are just charging.

Came across this last night. I am checking out a second hand K2 for a
friend. The K2/100 lid was fitted, the QRP lid with the battery had been
sitting idle for a while and its battery was down to 11V. Something for
those of you with both lids to keep an eye on!

73 Dave G3YMC

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Re: [Elecraft] Spectrum Analyzer and Panoramic Adapter SDR-IQ

2008-03-30 Thread AD6XY - Mike

Yes - and Yes. It works very well.

Mike


W7is wrote:
 
 Anyone had any experience with the below and whether it would  interface
 with the K3?   
  
 SDR-IQ™ Software Defined Radio, Spectrum Analyzer and Panoramic  Adapter
 
 _http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html_ (http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html) 
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 1.78 Firmware Power Output

2008-03-30 Thread Björn Mohr
On 080330 1:09 , K9ZTV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone with a new K3 would be well advised to be monitoring the
 reflector every day ... things are happening that quickly.  Plus,

I know about the RX input mod... What are the other two mods??

It is pretty hard to keep up with this reflector because of the heavy
traffic. As many of the postings don't add any relevance to my K3 ownership,
I find myself reading less than 5% of the output. Unfortunately this means
missing relevant information like this resulting in me working the WPX SSB
contest this weekend using a not optimal firmware version.

I would prefer a separate list strictly devoted to discussions of the K3. I
know this has been discussed before with negative outcome, but to me it
seems like the logic solution.


73 de Björn, SM0MDG/7S0X




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[Elecraft] K3 TX IMD - current status?

2008-03-30 Thread David Walker
After reading the ARRL review, I was wondering whether the tx IMD is an 
issue? Is it yet to be resolved?  If it is an issue will be fixed 
through either hardware or firmware adjustments - or both?  Is it okay 
to run an amp with it?


Cheers,

Dave
VK2NA
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Re: [Elecraft] Spectrum Analyzer and Panoramic Adapter SDR-IQ

2008-03-30 Thread Sanger, Joseph
Could you describe the setup and, more importantly, the mode(s) of operation 
that seem most useful with two devices?  There are many software options on the 
IQ side ... Am a bit unsure about best way to use with K3.

Thanks.


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Yes - and Yes. It works very well.

Mike


W7is wrote:
 
 Anyone had any experience with the below and whether it would  interface
 with the K3?   
  
 SDR-IQ™ Software Defined Radio, Spectrum Analyzer and Panoramic  Adapter
 
 _http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html_ (http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html) 
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 60m ERR TXG

2008-03-30 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

Dave G4AON wrote:



On another 5 MHz issue, the spurious levels are poor and below 
specification on frequencies below the point where a relay clicks (5.250 


If the relay has clicked, you are no longer on the 60m band.  If you 
have the broadcast filters, you may well be in general coverage mode. 
Unless you have the rig configured to disable out of band operation (I 
think that is the factory default), there seems to be no problem.


MHz), above that point they are OK.  There are spurious signals approx 1 
MHz either side of the main signal that are -46 dBc when the output is 
95 Watts on 5.150 MHz.


The lowest UK authorised channel centre is 5260kHz , making the lowest 
channel edge 5258.5kHz


Incidentally, looking at the RSGB 5MHz FAQ 
http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20faqs.htm, it would seem 
that amateur equipment capable of 5MHz operation without modification 
can't be CE approved.



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[Elecraft] K3 60m ERR TXG

2008-03-30 Thread Dave G4AON
At a carrier frequency of 5.260 MHz my K3 is giving spurious signals 
approx +/- 660 KHz from the carrier at -54 dBc, output level 100W 
derived from the TUNE button operation. The spurious levels increase 
as the K3 is set to lower frequencies and is quite clean at the top of 
the 60m band.


I think you will find the approval is invalidated if the importer/dealer 
modifies previously approved equipment, unless the certification is 
re-applied for. Including, or not including, 5 MHz is irrelevant if the 
equipment is approved with that band in the first place.


The relay click is related to the KBPF3, if the KBPF3 is turned off in 
the menu there is no click.


73 Dave, G4AON
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Dave G4AON wrote:

/
// On another 5 MHz issue, the spurious levels are poor and below
// specification on frequencies below the point where a relay clicks 
(5.250

/
If the relay has clicked, you are no longer on the 60m band. If you
have the broadcast filters, you may well be in general coverage mode.
Unless you have the rig configured to disable out of band operation (I
think that is the factory default), there seems to be no problem.

/ MHz), above that point they are OK. There are spurious signals approx 1
// MHz either side of the main signal that are -46 dBc when the output is
// 95 Watts on 5.150 MHz.
/
The lowest UK authorised channel centre is 5260kHz , making the lowest
channel edge 5258.5kHz

Incidentally, looking at the RSGB 5MHz FAQ
http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20faqs.htm, it would seem
that amateur equipment capable of 5MHz operation without modification
can't be CE approved.
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[Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Gary Bartlett VE1RGB
   I would like to see someone please take this discussion one step 
further and define the terms hard keying and soft keying, and 
describe how either an operator or someone listening would be able to 
discriminate between the two.  My rig is #095 and I frequently contest 
in the 30-34 WPM range.  How would I know if I'm guilty, if guilty is 
the right word,  of soft keying?!  Is this an issue only for those who 
are keying external amplifiers?


   73,
Gary, VE1RGB



  
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[Elecraft] K3: AGC mod

2008-03-30 Thread a.yoshida

Hello

I am one of happy K3 users. S/N 00060

I found annoying AGC action when operating CW with 2.8KHz filter
even if I configure AGC THR in config menu to highest value.

Can we expect more improvement with AGC mod ?

I have already ordered CW rise time mod kit and AGC mod kit though.

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Re: [Elecraft] PSK31/Digital interface for within the K2

2008-03-30 Thread R. Kevin Stover

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Not that I know of.

A full blown K2/100 leaves very little space for anything.
With the QRP K2 you do have some room but I haven't heard of anybody
building an internal digi-mode interface for the K2, ala the K3.

I'd suggest a USB to serial adapter if you want to do rig control as
well as digi-modes, or a Tigertronics Signalink-1 USB. If your computer
is a laptop I'd really suggest the Signalink, as the sound chip it has
is head and shoulders better than those internal to most laptops.


Paul W. Van Dyke wrote:
| Is there anyone that is MAKING a interface that goes INTO the K2 for
| PSK/Digital modes?? Not a box outside. As I only have USB, I am looking at
| that.
|
| Thank You
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| Paul KB9AVO #6363

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[Elecraft] k2 rx v.poor fixed

2008-03-30 Thread Chris
hi all im happy to report k2 is now reciveing like it should
the fix i found voltages low on u12 on cecking r112 i found
i had put 5.6k should have been 22ohm and r111 i had
put 22 ohm i have now fitted the correct resistors and
wow happy dance all is fine so now i can carry on building
my k2  chris g0wfh
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Paul Christensen
   I would like to see someone please take this discussion one step 
further and define the terms hard keying and soft keying, and describe 
how either an operator or someone listening would be able to discriminate 
between the two.


Gary, this topic has been covered in great detail in nearly every ARRL 
Handbook for at least the last fifty years -- as well as other publications. 
Some of the most relevant material is covered in articles during the '40s 
and '50s by By Goodman and George Garmmer. Not all of the material 
pertaining to optimum key-shaping is accurate, but otherwise, the content 
is still accurate.


Many of us do not like to be held hostage to one rise/fall setting as a one 
size fits all answer to our operating practices. With DSP-generated 
raised-cosine key shaping, it's now possible to tighten up key shaping at 
high CW speeds without appreciably consuming additional bandwidth.


Paul, W9AC 


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[Elecraft] K3: User responsibility

2008-03-30 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
K3'ers:

When you purchased the K3, you bought into the SDR concept.  For me,
this meant a self-acknowledgment that I would, of necessity, become an
addict of sortswatching the Elecraft Reflector (including reading
all of the posts), as well as attempting to stay upright while riding
the wave of new releases and other finds.  IMO, there is some degree
of owner responsibility if you want to keep your radio up to date.

Elecraft does provide some hints.

You can always just randomly stop by the UPDATE page and check.
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

You can set up your K3 Utility to check automatically (every six hours!)

You can visit the Application Notes page:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm

You can visit the Operating Tips page:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_operating_tips.htm

Beyond what is provided by Elecraft, you can filter the reflector for
only memos from Eric, Wayne, Lyle, etc.

Or...you can simply be happy with your version and never check again
(as is the case with nearly all non-USA radios out there).

For me, buying into the K3 also implied a personal commitment to
staying connected.

de Doug KR2Q
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[Elecraft] K2: HI CUR warning

2008-03-30 Thread Matt Patterson

Hi,

I worked a little bit of the SSB contest this weekend.  I noticed last 
night I received the HI CUR warning a couple of times.  The antenna is a 
40m delta loop.  I have checked the SWR and it never gets above 2:1 on 
the entire band.  I also use the internal ATU to get it down to 1:1 when 
I'm transmitting.  I am using a heil goldline with a HC5 cartridge for 
the mic and the mic gain was set to 3.  I have never had the HI CUR 
warning occur while operating CW only in SSB.  I looked up HI CUR in the 
manual and it says that it's usually to do with the radio trying to 
drive the finals at a higher output than what they are rated.  I can 
connect a dummy load and set the radio to 10 watts then hold down the 
TUNE + DISPLAY buttons to put the radio in tune mode bypassing the ATU 
and the radio is putting out the correct amount of power which leads me 
to believe that the issue has something to do with the mic.  Do you 
think I have the mic gain set too high? I have since backed it down to 1 
and it hasn't done it since but it wasn't doing it everytime when it was 
set to 3 so I really don't know if that fixed it or not.  Is there 
anyone else who uses a Heil Goldline with their K2?  Am I even going 
down the right path troubleshooting wise?  Or should I be looking at 
something else?


73 Matt
W5LL
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Brian Alsop
For what it is worth,  I've just completed a Fourier analysis of the 
original K3 and revised K3 waveforms presented by G4AON on his website.


I was a bit concerned that the sharpening of the leading edge would 
adversely affect bandwidth and possibly generate clicks.


Bottom line for the region of the spectrum between 0 and +/- 200 Hz 
there is a slight increase in average power (maybe 3 db) for the new 
sharper waveform.  In the range of 200 to 300 Hz the average power 
increases maybe 10 db.  However at this point the spectral energy is 
down 50 db anyhow. Beyond this 350 Hz,  the spectrum energy of the 
sharper waveform actually falls off relative to the 8ms case.


These conclusions are eyeball averages of the sawtooth looking output 
produced.  The teeth go above and below the zero db level.


I was pleasantly surprised.  Apparently it isn't all in rise time it 
is also how that waveform is shaped.


Here are the assumptions/limitations of the analysis.
1) Code used Fast Fourier Transform  by M.F. Hajen
2) A single dit was modeled.
3) Both dits had the same length in the model (about 70ms representing 
about 20 wpm).

4) Waveforms were digitized in 1 ms steps.
5) The assumption that the waveforms given represented voltage and hence 
db was calculated by 20 log (amplitude/amplitude at 0 Hz)


This doesn't reflect repeating dits or CW made up of dots and dashes.  
However, it is probably a worse case analysis or close to it.
I don't have a web site to post on.  There is a .jpg file available of 
results.


Disclaimer
I'm not an expert on this or on using the calculational tools.   The 
output does at least agree with the position of the first zero point 
predicted by a sinx/x  formula for a single pulse of near infinite rise 
time and same width.  Clearly it doesn't represent other effects in the 
rig which affect spectrum. 

Like a lawyer once said: I'm giving you some free advice, it is worth 
every penny paid for it


73 de Brian/K3KO
.

Paul Christensen wrote:

   I would like to see someone please take this discussion one step 
further and define the terms hard keying and soft keying, and 
describe how either an operator or someone listening would be able to 
discriminate between the two.



Gary, this topic has been covered in great detail in nearly every ARRL 
Handbook for at least the last fifty years -- as well as other 
publications. Some of the most relevant material is covered in 
articles during the '40s and '50s by By Goodman and George Garmmer. 
Not all of the material pertaining to optimum key-shaping is 
accurate, but otherwise, the content is still accurate.


Many of us do not like to be held hostage to one rise/fall setting as 
a one size fits all answer to our operating practices. With 
DSP-generated raised-cosine key shaping, it's now possible to tighten 
up key shaping at high CW speeds without appreciably consuming 
additional bandwidth.


Paul, W9AC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: User responsibility

2008-03-30 Thread Jim Cox

Very well put.  Jim K4JAF

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3: User responsibility



K3'ers:

When you purchased the K3, you bought into the SDR concept.  For me,
this meant a self-acknowledgment that I would, of necessity, become an
addict of sortswatching the Elecraft Reflector (including reading
all of the posts), as well as attempting to stay upright while riding
the wave of new releases and other finds.  IMO, there is some degree
of owner responsibility if you want to keep your radio up to date.

Elecraft does provide some hints.

You can always just randomly stop by the UPDATE page and check.
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

You can set up your K3 Utility to check automatically (every six hours!)

You can visit the Application Notes page:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm

You can visit the Operating Tips page:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_operating_tips.htm

Beyond what is provided by Elecraft, you can filter the reflector for
only memos from Eric, Wayne, Lyle, etc.

Or...you can simply be happy with your version and never check again
(as is the case with nearly all non-USA radios out there).

For me, buying into the K3 also implied a personal commitment to
staying connected.

de Doug KR2Q
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[Elecraft] K3 programmable CW rise time

2008-03-30 Thread David Cutter
I wonder if it will be possible to shorten rise times as the keying speed 
increases without needing manual intervention.  Only set the desired timing 
for one speed and the program fixes others automatically; or not as desired.


David
G3UNA 


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Looking at the scope picture of a single Morse dit at G4AON's 
site http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/k3_envelope2.jpg indicates 
the trailing edge might be a bigger contributor to potential 
clicks than the leading edge of the waveform.  Note the upper 
right corner has a fairly sharp transition from on to 
falling and compare that to the nicely shaped transition at 
the upper left corner. 

From all reports the K3 is more than acceptable but if any 
additional effort is put into CW shaping, the upper right 
transition may be a place to look. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop
 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:01 AM
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition
 
 
 For what it is worth,  I've just completed a Fourier analysis of the 
 original K3 and revised K3 waveforms presented by G4AON on 
 his website.
 
 I was a bit concerned that the sharpening of the leading edge would 
 adversely affect bandwidth and possibly generate clicks.
 
 Bottom line for the region of the spectrum between 0 and +/- 200 Hz 
 there is a slight increase in average power (maybe 3 db) for the new 
 sharper waveform.  In the range of 200 to 300 Hz the average power 
 increases maybe 10 db.  However at this point the spectral energy is 
 down 50 db anyhow. Beyond this 350 Hz,  the spectrum energy of the 
 sharper waveform actually falls off relative to the 8ms case.
 
 These conclusions are eyeball averages of the sawtooth 
 looking output 
 produced.  The teeth go above and below the zero db level.
 
 I was pleasantly surprised.  Apparently it isn't all in rise 
 time it 
 is also how that waveform is shaped.
 
 Here are the assumptions/limitations of the analysis.
 1) Code used Fast Fourier Transform  by M.F. Hajen
 2) A single dit was modeled.
 3) Both dits had the same length in the model (about 70ms 
 representing 
 about 20 wpm).
 4) Waveforms were digitized in 1 ms steps.
 5) The assumption that the waveforms given represented 
 voltage and hence 
 db was calculated by 20 log (amplitude/amplitude at 0 Hz)
 
 This doesn't reflect repeating dits or CW made up of dots and 
 dashes.  
 However, it is probably a worse case analysis or close to it.
 I don't have a web site to post on.  There is a .jpg file 
 available of 
 results.
 
 Disclaimer
 I'm not an expert on this or on using the calculational tools.   The 
 output does at least agree with the position of the first zero point 
 predicted by a sinx/x  formula for a single pulse of near 
 infinite rise 
 time and same width.  Clearly it doesn't represent other 
 effects in the 
 rig which affect spectrum. 
 
 Like a lawyer once said: I'm giving you some free advice, it 
 is worth 
 every penny paid for it
 
 73 de Brian/K3KO
 .
 
 Paul Christensen wrote:
 
 I would like to see someone please take this discussion 
 one step 
  further and define the terms hard keying and soft keying, and 
  describe how either an operator or someone listening would 
 be able to 
  discriminate between the two.
 
 
  Gary, this topic has been covered in great detail in nearly 
 every ARRL 
  Handbook for at least the last fifty years -- as well as other 
  publications. Some of the most relevant material is covered in 
  articles during the '40s and '50s by By Goodman and George Garmmer. 
  Not all of the material pertaining to optimum key-shaping is 
  accurate, but otherwise, the content is still accurate.
 
  Many of us do not like to be held hostage to one rise/fall 
 setting as 
  a one size fits all answer to our operating practices. With 
  DSP-generated raised-cosine key shaping, it's now possible 
 to tighten 
  up key shaping at high CW speeds without appreciably consuming 
  additional bandwidth.
 
  Paul, W9AC
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Re: [Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake

2008-03-30 Thread Bill Coleman N2BC

KPA100 manual, Page 63 - K2/100 Specifications:  +200V maximum  @ 1 A


- Original Message - 
From: Phil Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: Jim Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake



On 3/29/2008 4:57 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

   What  I  cannot  find  in  the  Elecraft  documentation is the 
maximum

   current and voltage that it can switch.


Look in the K3 FAQs - if you were to print it out, it is on page 27 of 
34 -

it is the last item prior to the heading other.

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm
(search for 6 amps)

What is the voltage and current limit to control TX amp relays?
The keying device is rated at 200 volts, 6 amps.


That is for the K3.  The original question - and the one that I have - is 
for the K2/100.  Are they the same?


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
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[Elecraft] K3: AGC mod

2008-03-30 Thread Don Rasmussen
Aki - I have noticed that the HAGC mod makes the AGC
THR seem to have more range and effect at the higher
values. I also now use my AGC in the OFF position for
CW, I enjoy the most energy in the audio and less of a
smoothing effect.

However for SSB and AM I require more of a smoothing
effect as if AGC THR is even lower than the lowest
available setup parameter, which I will be looking for
in the next firmware update.

This is all very low priority for me however because
the K3 is already better than anything I have ever
tried before. ;-)


[Elecraft] K3: AGC mod
a.yoshida ayoshida at my.email.ne.jp 
Sun Mar 30 07:59:38 EST 2008 

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Hello

I am one of happy K3 users. S/N 00060

I found annoying AGC action when operating CW with
2.8KHz filter
even if I configure AGC THR in config menu to highest
value.

Can we expect more improvement with AGC mod ?

I have already ordered CW rise time mod kit and AGC
mod kit though.

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[Elecraft] K3 USERS MOTTO

2008-03-30 Thread Ralph Tyrrell

I have a large collection of emails from AC7AC,W3FPR,
NOSS, N6KR, WA6HHQ, KK7P and many others on this
reflector. I save them because of the technical
information in them.

KR2Q wrote what I consider should be the K3 USERS
MOTTO.

I have a copy of it in front of my K3 three ring
binder.
Thank you Doug.

Waiting for a K3, maybe in 2 weeks?
73, Ty, W1TF, K1 #1423


--
Doug wrote:

K3'ers:

When you purchased the K3, you bought into the SDR
concept.  For me,
this meant a self-acknowledgment that I would, of
necessity, become an
addict of sortswatching the Elecraft Reflector
(including reading
all of the posts), as well as attempting to stay
upright while riding
the wave of new releases and other finds.  IMO,
there is some degree
of owner responsibility if you want to keep your radio
up to date.

Elecraft does provide some hints.

You can always just randomly stop by the UPDATE page
and check.
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

You can set up your K3 Utility to check automatically
(every six
 hours!)

You can visit the Application Notes page:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm

You can visit the Operating Tips page:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_operating_tips.htm

Beyond what is provided by Elecraft, you can filter
the reflector for
only memos from Eric, Wayne, Lyle, etc.

Or...you can simply be happy with your version and
never check again
(as is the case with nearly all non-USA radios out
there).

For me, buying into the K3 also implied a personal
commitment to
staying connected.

de Doug KR2Q



  

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[Elecraft] K2/100 amplifier keying

2008-03-30 Thread Bill Stacy

Message: 12
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:15:41 -0700
From: Phil Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: Jim Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 3/29/2008 4:57 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

That is for the K3.  The original question - and the one that I have - 
is for the K2/100.  Are they the same?

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

---

Hi, Phil:

The answer is not easy to find.  It's in the K2/100 manual (p. 59): 200 VDC
@ 1 Amp.  I'm going to try this with an old Collins 30L-1 this afternoon,
and I will keep my fingers crossed that the answer is correct.  :-)

73, Bill, N5TU


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I would like to see someone please take this discussion one step 
further and define the terms hard keying and soft keying, and 
describe how either an operator or someone listening would be able to 
discriminate between the two.  My rig is #095 and I frequently contest 
in the 30-34 WPM range.  How would I know if I'm guilty, if guilty is 
the right word,  of soft keying?!  Is this an issue only for those who 
are keying external amplifiers?

73,
Gary, VE1RGB

-

It's completely subjective, Gary, as applied here.

Hard keying used to be keying with obvious clicks caused by the sidebands
produced by a very abrupt rise from zero to full power and then the drop to
zero at the end of each dit or dah. Extremely soft keying is one where you
aren't sure a dit or dah has been started until it's nearly done. 

Obviously hard keying can be easier to copy, since the transition at the
start and end of every dit and dah is absolutely clear, but the clicks take
up excessive spectrum space. They can be heard off to the sides of the main
carrier. In an extreme case, they might be heard several kHz from the
signal. 

The only CW signal with absolutely NO sidebands (clicks) is one that isn't
keyed, but careful shaping of the rise from zero to full power and the drop
back can minimize them to the point where they are almost inaudible, even
very close to the carrier, with rise and fall times appropriate for easy
copy at a wide range of CW speeds. It's a trade-off between speed and
sidebands. The faster the data rate (CW speed) the wider the signal. It's
basic physics, and the reason why an intelligible voice signal must use much
more spectrum bandwidth than a CW signal, for example. 

In an absurdly extreme case for CW, having the keying rise and fall times
too slow for the speed would result in a steady CW signal that only varied
slightly in strength between dits, dahs and pauses. The signal would still
be building up when the dit or dah ended, and then wouldn't reach zero
output before the next dit or dah started the rise again. It would sound
like a steady carrier with, perhaps, a tiny amount of modulation barely
audible at the keying rate. 

Obviously, such a signal would be useless for CW communications, just as a
signal with too hard keying that produces wide sidebands uses up excessive
spectrum. 

The right keying is somewhere in the middle and, obviously, the right
characteristic depends upon the keying (CW) speed used. Most rigs, including
the Elecraft rigs, adopt a compromise that produces a good, readable signal
over the normal keying speeds used by Amateurs.

The original values used in the K3 were fine at moderate speeds but, as the
speed was increased, it was too soft on the leading edge of each dit or
dah for optimum readability. That's what the change in the value of C222
affects. 

The end result is keying that is easier to read at higher speeds. 

I normally operate at a maximum speed of 20 or 25 wpm, and didn't think the
keying sounded soft at all, nor did anyone I worked mention it. Even so
it's a good idea to make the change. The notes with the mod suggest Wayne
plans to offer the ability to change the keying characteristic with a menu
setting. If so, the values he provides will assume all K3s have the same
hardware characteristics. If you don't have the recommended value for C222,
the results you get with various menu settings might be quite different than
expected. 

Ron AC7AC 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Vic K2VCO

Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
Looking at the scope picture of a single Morse dit at G4AON's 
site http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/k3_envelope2.jpg indicates 
the trailing edge might be a bigger contributor to potential 
clicks than the leading edge of the waveform.  Note the upper 
right corner has a fairly sharp transition from on to 
falling and compare that to the nicely shaped transition at 
the upper left corner. 

From all reports the K3 is more than acceptable but if any 
additional effort is put into CW shaping, the upper right 
transition may be a place to look. 


Wayne has looked into an alternative shaping of the keyed envelope with 
the intent of reducing the bandwidth of the keyed signal without 
increasing (and possibly decreasing) the overall rise/fall times.


He's put this aside for now because he's working on higher priority 
projects like the subreceiver, but I expect that at some time we will 
see this.


As K3KO also noted, it's not all in the rise/fall times.
--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 amplifier keying

2008-03-30 Thread Ken Wagner K3IU

This is from the KPA100 Parts List...
Q9 - 1 - Transistor, HEXFET, 500 V, IRF830 or IRL620, TO-220 (tab may be 
cut)
It keyed my SB-220 with no problem. If I remember correctly, that is 
about 100VDC.

73,
Ken K3IU

Bill Stacy wrote:

Message: 12
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:15:41 -0700
From: Phil Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: Jim Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 3/29/2008 4:57 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

That is for the K3.  The original question - and the one that I have - 
is for the K2/100.  Are they the same?


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

---

Hi, Phil:

The answer is not easy to find.  It's in the K2/100 manual (p. 59): 200 VDC
@ 1 Amp.  I'm going to try this with an old Collins 30L-1 this afternoon,
and I will keep my fingers crossed that the answer is correct.  :-)

73, Bill, N5TU


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[Elecraft] K3: TX INHIBIT error

2008-03-30 Thread ab2tc

Hi,

K3 #82 has a new home here in Central New York. I am having a blast with it
in the WPX contest.

It has developed a minor problem. After a while, the TX icon below the [A]
display label sometimes starts flashing and the radio will not transmit. If
I use the XMIT button to key it, the message TX INHIBIT is shown in the B
display. Turning radio off and back on instantly cures the problem (haven't
found any other way). I doubt if anything is overheating, I am only using
SSB with a relatively low duty cycle.

Note that the radio is *not* in TEST mode as suggested by some at the Yahoo
forum. The symptoms are different as the radio will not enter transmit mode
at all. I hope this is not anything serious. It does look like this will
only happen when the radio has been on for several hours, not necessarily
transmitting a lot.
 
Knut - AB2TC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: TX INHIBIT error

2008-03-30 Thread Ken K3IU
There is an item in the CONFIG menu called TX INH that you should 
check... It should be OFF unless you have set something special up.


73,
Ken K3IU

ab2tc wrote:

Hi,

K3 #82 has a new home here in Central New York. I am having a blast with it
in the WPX contest.

It has developed a minor problem. After a while, the TX icon below the [A]
display label sometimes starts flashing and the radio will not transmit. If
I use the XMIT button to key it, the message TX INHIBIT is shown in the B
display. Turning radio off and back on instantly cures the problem (haven't
found any other way). I doubt if anything is overheating, I am only using
SSB with a relatively low duty cycle.

Note that the radio is *not* in TEST mode as suggested by some at the Yahoo
forum. The symptoms are different as the radio will not enter transmit mode
at all. I hope this is not anything serious. It does look like this will
only happen when the radio has been on for several hours, not necessarily
transmitting a lot.
 
Knut - AB2TC
  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Gary Bartlett VE1RGB
Terms such as tightening up key shaping and soft keying and hard 
keying are neither used nor defined in the latest issue of the 
Handbook.  Worse, the latest handbook Figure 9.8 states that on-off 
transitions of the RF envelope should follow  a sine-wave curve, so I 
don't quite know what to make of DSP-generated raised-cosine key 
shaping.  As to Goodman and Garmmer, I wouldn't be able to identify 
what is accurate and should be believed and what is inaccurate and 
should be ignored,  so I don't think I'll go looking for those 
references.  And no, Paul, I'm not trying to be a smart-ass here.  I'm 
just a simpleton trying to decode the language used by people who know 
about such things.


   Pointing me to the Handbook -- which I should have had sense enough 
to do on my own -- did help in that it reminded me that key clicks and 
bandwidth are the issues associated with rise times and curve shapes, 
which is what I was really looking for, and Figure 9.9, if I study it 
long enough, may point me to a decision as to whether or not I want to 
modify ole #95.Either that, or wait for Al, VE1AWP, up the street 
with his FT1000 to complain about my signal when we both try to contest 
on the same band at the same time!


   Great radio and lots of good people around to help us understand 
it.  Thanks, Paul.


   Gary, VE1RGB


  


Paul Christensen wrote:
   I would like to see someone please take this discussion one step 
further and define the terms hard keying and soft keying, and 
describe how either an operator or someone listening would be able to 
discriminate between the two.


Gary, this topic has been covered in great detail in nearly every ARRL 
Handbook for at least the last fifty years -- as well as other 
publications. Some of the most relevant material is covered in 
articles during the '40s and '50s by By Goodman and George Garmmer. 
Not all of the material pertaining to optimum key-shaping is 
accurate, but otherwise, the content is still accurate.


Many of us do not like to be held hostage to one rise/fall setting as 
a one size fits all answer to our operating practices. With 
DSP-generated raised-cosine key shaping, it's now possible to tighten 
up key shaping at high CW speeds without appreciably consuming 
additional bandwidth.


Paul, W9AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net news

2008-03-30 Thread Clark B. Wierda (N8CBW)
Just a note.

OpenOffice.org Calc is happy with your Excel file.  Thanks for
including the link to the Excel viewer.

73, Clark N8CBW

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Kevin Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am working on the ecn.visionseer.com website.  I am trying to figure out a 
 way to post a .xls (Excel spreadsheet) so it is accessible.  I think I can 
 post it as an href link and have the user right click and download it.  Since 
 I don't use Excel this has been translated from the original spreadsheet 
 document.  However, I know this works because of others using my translated 
 files.  Now to make it accessible via the web.  I may, or may not, get it 
 working tonight.  I did get the roster, preamble, and notes updated.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: TX INHIBIT error

2008-03-30 Thread ab2tc


Ken K3IU wrote:
 
 There is an item in the CONFIG menu called TX INH that you should 
 check... It should be OFF unless you have set something special up.
 
 73,
 Ken K3IU
 
 snip
 
 

Thank you! Sure enough, it was enabled, so I turned it off. This feature
must be recent, since it is not in the manual. My firmware is up to date.
This will probably cure this problem.

73,
Knut - AB2TC.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Gary Bartlett VE1RGB
   My questions about rise times, etc, was really really intended to 
help me make a decision as to whether or not I wanted to incorporate the 
modification that started this discussion off.  Your comments in the 
last paragraph make all kinds of sense and so off to the Elecraft Order 
Page I go.  Thanks, Ron.


Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

  (snip)...
Wayne plans to offer the ability to change the keying characteristic with a menu
setting. If so, the values he provides will assume all K3s have the same
hardware characteristics. If you don't have the recommended value for C222,
the results you get with various menu settings might be quite different than
expected. 

Ron AC7AC 

  

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[Elecraft] Cutting component leads in tight places.

2008-03-30 Thread Scott McDowell
Hi
Here is a tip that  some of you might want to try when building kits and
trying to cut off a component lead in close quarters.
Like when putting components on the bottom of the board and soldering on the
top.
I learned it as a farm boy  back in the 30's when we couldn't afford a pair
of pliers for cutting wire.
After you solder the component lead, take a pair of long nose pliers, catch
the end of the lead and bend it back and
forth five or six times and it will break off at the top of the solder
joint. Just be sure to keep tension  on the lead while
bending it.
I didn't learn it building radios, it was fences!
Am building my second K2 and just remembered breaking wire that way.
73
Scott
N5SM
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[Elecraft] KX1 Internal 11.8v Li-Ion Battery and Solar Charger Update

2008-03-30 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,

I've had numerous requests from keep ops to keep you updated on my KX1
internal 11.8v Li-ion Battery Modification and my Solar Panel Charger
for it. I just updated the results of playing around with a small solar
panel to charge the internal battery. I hope you enjoy the results.

http://wa3wsj.homestead.com/WA3WSJQRP.html


72,
Kangaroo Ed, WA3WSJ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Lyle Johnson
...Worse, the latest handbook Figure 9.8 states that on-off 
transitions of the RF envelope should follow  a sine-wave curve, so I 
don't quite know what to make of DSP-generated raised-cosine key 
shaping. 


Let me see if I can shed a glimmer of light here.

A sine wave, going from 0 to 360 degrees (or 0 to 2 pi radians if you 
are of at persuasion), starts at 0, then builds to +1 at 90 degrees 
(pi/2 radians), dropping down to 0 again at 180 degrees (pi radians), 
then further dropping to -1 at 270 degrees (3 pi/2 radians) returning to 
0 at 360 degrees (2 pi radians).


OK, I'll stop the radians now :-)

I suggest you sketch this on a sheet of paper to make it easier to 
follow along.


A cosine is shifted by 90 degrees, starting at -1 for 0 degrees, 
building to +1 at 180 degrees, and dropping again to -1 at 360 degrees.


The shape is the same.  The cosine starts at its minimum value (-1) at 0 
degrees while a sine wave is already halfway between its minimum (-1) 
and its maximum (+1) at 0 degrees.


Our RF power can't go negative in the real world, so if we want to shape 
our keying, we must go from 0 to some positive value.


One way to do this is to add 1 to the sine or cosine value.

If we do this, the cosine goes from 0 at 0 degrees, to +2 at 180 
degrees, then drops back to 0 at 360 degrees.  The sine does the same, 
just offset.


Adding 1 to the value makes it a raised cosine (or a raised sine, if 
you want to talk about sines -- the wave *shape* is identical).


Thus, raised cosine shaping and follows a sine-wave curve are two 
ways of saying essentially the same thing.


Now, the reason we usually talk about a raised cosine is because we (or 
at least, I) like to start a wave generator at 0 degrees, and a cosine 
is conveniently at its lowest value at 0 degrees.


Thus, to shape the CW waveform, the DSP starts a cosine generator at 0 
and applies the result, offset by adding 1, to the RF envelope it is 
creating.  AT 180 degrees, it stops. The RF waveform is at its maximum 
amplitude, the wave is properly shaped, and your adjacent channel 
neighbors are happy (or as happy as they're going to be!).


The DSP can make this transition time be 5 ms - or 500 microseconds, or 
10 seconds, or whatever it sis told to create.


If you want to get a good visual look at all this, I highly recommend 
the paper by James Miller entitled The Shape of Bits to Come.  
URL:http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/108.html  If you read it, 
forget about PSK or FSK, and think about CW waveshaping.  Also, remember 
that CW is traditionally decoded by ear, so any waveshape that requires 
you to look ahead in time (like the really narrow spectra he describes) 
would probably sound very odd by ear and would require that the dits and 
dahs being sent be delayed by 4 or 5 dot times.


But it would make you a very good neighbor!

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] Cutting component leads in tight places.

2008-03-30 Thread Rick Kunath
On Sunday 30 March 2008 1:50:29 pm Scott McDowell wrote:
 Here is a tip that  some of you might want to try when building kits and
 trying to cut off a component lead in close quarters.
 Like when putting components on the bottom of the board and soldering on
 the top.
 I learned it as a farm boy  back in the 30's when we couldn't afford a pair
 of pliers for cutting wire.
 After you solder the component lead, take a pair of long nose pliers, catch
 the end of the lead and bend it back and
 forth five or six times and it will break off at the top of the solder
 joint. Just be sure to keep tension  on the lead while
 bending it.
 I didn't learn it building radios, it was fences!
 Am building my second K2 and just remembered breaking wire that way.

That's a great way to fracture the solder joint and cause future problems with 
intermittent connections. Never flex the component lead to break it off.

Get a proper reduced space close cutting tool. There are a variety of these 
made for just such a purpose. They do not stress the solder joint when 
cutting off the excess component lead length. Some will capture the cut off 
component lead to avoid having it fly off somewhere to cause a failure later 
if you don't find it.

Rick Kunath, k9ao
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Re: [Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake

2008-03-30 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Bill:

Thanks! I missed that detail.

73,

Steve
AA4AK


At 12:15 PM 3/30/2008, Bill Coleman  N2BC wrote:

KPA100 manual, Page 63 - K2/100 Specifications:  +200V maximum  @ 1 A


- Original Message - From: Phil Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: Jim Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake



On 3/29/2008 4:57 PM, Jim Miller wrote:


   What  I  cannot  find  in  the  Elecraft  documentation is the maximum
   current and voltage that it can switch.


Look in the K3 FAQs - if you were to print it out, it is on page 27 of 34 -
it is the last item prior to the heading other.

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm
(search for 6 amps)

What is the voltage and current limit to control TX amp relays?
The keying device is rated at 200 volts, 6 amps.


That is for the K3.  The original question - and the one that I 
have - is for the K2/100.  Are they the same?


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Bill W5WVO

Lyle Johnson wrote:


Let me see if I can shed a glimmer of light here.


As usual, Lyle, a very useful and clearly written tutorial. Thanks!

Bill W5WVO

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[Elecraft] Soldering station

2008-03-30 Thread Nelson Wittstock
I just ordered the new KXV3 RXA board for my K3.  The instructions state 
requirements for the soldering station to be used in the installation of the 
new board.  My workshop has never had need for high tech soldering and 
consequently I do not own a soldering station.   I have several assorted 
soldering irons and guns that have served me well in the past but I guess I 
will have to join the modern world.  Since I would like to keep updating my 
K3 it looks like I will need to buy a soldering station.  In looking through 
Googled references I see many stations in the $100 and up range.  Is it 
absolutely necessary to spend that much to ensure the safety of my radio or 
are there some less expensive suitable alternatives?


Nelson - K8DJC 



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[Elecraft] test

2008-03-30 Thread Robert Friess
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[Elecraft] test

2008-03-30 Thread Robert Friess
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Paul Christensen
Terms such as tightening up key shaping and soft keying and hard 
keying are neither used nor defined in the latest issue of the Handbook.


My 1998 issue of the ARRL Handbook discusses the relevancy of hard keying 
on p. 15.7 and even uses that term to try and describe the effect.  On the 
same page, reference is even made to the crispness of keying.   Perhaps, 
the latest editions have eliminated these ambiguous terms.


Your initial request was the following:  I would like to see someone please 
take this discussion one step further and define the terms hard keying and 
soft keying, and describe how either an operator or someone listening 
would be able to discriminate between the two.


The best way to address this is through actual listening to a keyed waveform 
that varies between 0 ms (i.e., a square wave), and a ramped wave with 
leading and trailing edges up to 10 ms.  This can be easily done on some 
transceivers (e.g., TS-870S, IC-7800, and Omni VII) although the range may 
be limited from 2 ms. to perhaps 8 ms.  One can listen to the keying on an 
external receiver while keying the transceiver and varying the wave shaping.


In addition to the perceived effect of hard v. soft keying, the ARRL 
Handbooks tied-in the concept of selective fading; the ability to decipher 
the transmission in the presence of ionospheric changes and included a 
chart.  That too may have been eliminated recently.


Unfortunately, there's is no way to quantify or define subjective terms like 
hard keying any more than we can quantify a SSB transmission that sounds 
bassy, tinny, compressed, or distorted.  Distortion can take on so 
many forms that the mere use of the word without further information is 
meaningless.


Paul, W9AC 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Ian Stirling
On Sunday 30 March 2008 01:56:46 pm Lyle Johnson wrote:

 A cosine is shifted by 90 degrees, starting at -1 for 0 degrees, 
 building to +1 at 180 degrees, and dropping again to -1 at 360 degrees.

The cosine of zero is +1 and the cosine of 180 degrees is -1.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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RE: [Elecraft] Soldering station

2008-03-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I just ordered the new KXV3 RXA board for my K3.  The instructions state 
requirements for the soldering station to be used in the installation of the

new board.  My workshop has never had need for high tech soldering and 
consequently I do not own a soldering station.   I have several assorted 
soldering irons and guns that have served me well in the past but I guess I 
will have to join the modern world.  Since I would like to keep updating my 
K3 it looks like I will need to buy a soldering station.  In looking through

Googled references I see many stations in the $100 and up range.  Is it 
absolutely necessary to spend that much to ensure the safety of my radio or 
are there some less expensive suitable alternatives?

Nelson - K8DJC 

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That mod is one of the easiest in terms of soldering. You are soldering two
fine wires to closely-spaced connector terminals that, if overheated, will
melt the connector header or lift traces. But it's not nearly as critical as
many component installations in other locations. Two more leads are
connected to BNC connector terminals that require significant heat in any
case. The RXA board comes with the leads pre-attached, so there's no
soldering to do to the RXA board itself.

It's a judgment call. Elecraft wants you to be successful and your chance of
having trouble is greatly reduced by using the right tools, and a good
soldering station is a tool you'll use again and again if you do any work on
your rigs.  

You can get away with less. I've repaired a lot of SMD circuit boards
sitting cross-legged on the deck in the navigating bridge of a ship using a
portable butane-powered soldering iron while holding a flashlight in my
teeth. 

I've also had lots and lots of practice over decades of soldering that lets
me judge the temperature of the tip by the smell and, by being very, very
careful, I've yet to destroy a board or parts. I did have the advantage of
growing up with the pc board industry, first working on boards back in the
1960s that had large push-in pins to which leads were soldered, then boards
with big thick, wide traces that have slowly evolved into the tissue-thin,
tiny traces we find on many boards today. 

Even so, whenever possible I'll use a temperature-controlled soldering
station in a comfortable, well-lit shop. 

Over time, I've found that a good soldering station costs me pennies a month
to own and use. I don't consider that too much to spend to protect circuit
boards, almost any one of which is worth more than the iron. 

I currently have a Hakko 936 that cost me less than $100 several years ago
from www.tequipment.net.  

Bottom line, it's a matter of how skilled you are at soldering and how much
risk you are comfortable taking with the pc board and components. 

Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] K2 100 Watt Pa Problem

2008-03-30 Thread DW Holtman

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone else has had a problem like ythis one?

I'm was in the process of finishing up my KPA 100. All of the power supply, 
bias adjustments etc went as per the book. When I got to page 50 in the 
manual to test the transmitter at high power the problem shows up.


With the Power out turned to around 11 watts, the relay clicks and the power 
out is taken over by the KPA 100. Every thing works great until I get to 
right at 20 watts. Any power level 20 watts or over, when it is keyed, a 
relay klicks, power out shuts off and nothing out. At 18 watts the power out 
from the KPA 100 is fine. There are no error messages that I can find, even 
on the secondary message menus.


Any suggestions why the PA works up to 20 watts then shuts down with no 
error message?


Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Nelson Wittstock' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Soldering station


I just ordered the new KXV3 RXA board for my K3.  The instructions state
requirements for the soldering station to be used in the installation of the

new board.  My workshop has never had need for high tech soldering and
consequently I do not own a soldering station.   I have several assorted
soldering irons and guns that have served me well in the past but I guess I
will have to join the modern world.  Since I would like to keep updating my
K3 it looks like I will need to buy a soldering station.  In looking through

Googled references I see many stations in the $100 and up range.  Is it
absolutely necessary to spend that much to ensure the safety of my radio or
are there some less expensive suitable alternatives?

Nelson - K8DJC

--

That mod is one of the easiest in terms of soldering. You are soldering two
fine wires to closely-spaced connector terminals that, if overheated, will
melt the connector header or lift traces. But it's not nearly as critical as
many component installations in other locations. Two more leads are
connected to BNC connector terminals that require significant heat in any
case. The RXA board comes with the leads pre-attached, so there's no
soldering to do to the RXA board itself.

It's a judgment call. Elecraft wants you to be successful and your chance of
having trouble is greatly reduced by using the right tools, and a good
soldering station is a tool you'll use again and again if you do any work on
your rigs.

You can get away with less. I've repaired a lot of SMD circuit boards
sitting cross-legged on the deck in the navigating bridge of a ship using a
portable butane-powered soldering iron while holding a flashlight in my
teeth.

I've also had lots and lots of practice over decades of soldering that lets
me judge the temperature of the tip by the smell and, by being very, very
careful, I've yet to destroy a board or parts. I did have the advantage of
growing up with the pc board industry, first working on boards back in the
1960s that had large push-in pins to which leads were soldered, then boards
with big thick, wide traces that have slowly evolved into the tissue-thin,
tiny traces we find on many boards today.

Even so, whenever possible I'll use a temperature-controlled soldering
station in a comfortable, well-lit shop.

Over time, I've found that a good soldering station costs me pennies a month
to own and use. I don't consider that too much to spend to protect circuit
boards, almost any one of which is worth more than the iron.

I currently have a Hakko 936 that cost me less than $100 several years ago
from www.tequipment.net.

Bottom line, it's a matter of how skilled you are at soldering and how much
risk you are comfortable taking with the pc board and components.

Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] re: Soldering Station

2008-03-30 Thread Joseph Trombino Jr
Just checked out the Hakko 936-12 soldering station using the URL provided 
by Ron, AC7AC, and discovered that the soldering station is on sale for 
$78.80.


I bought one a while back and it is a super soldering station.

It has relegated my Weller WTCPT soldering station to back-up use.

To take a look at the Hakko go to:

http://www.tequipment.net/Hakko936-12.html

   73, Joe W2KJ
   I QRP, therefore I am 


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 100 Watt Pa Problem

2008-03-30 Thread DW Holtman

Hello,

I just noticed something else on this problem. The whole radio resets, like 
turning it off then on again. The word Elecraft pops up on the LCD and the 
DSP red light blinks on, just like I turned it off then on again.


Any suggestions?

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: DW Holtman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 100 Watt Pa Problem



Hello,

I was wondering if anyone else has had a problem like ythis one?

I'm was in the process of finishing up my KPA 100. All of the power 
supply, bias adjustments etc went as per the book. When I got to page 50 
in the manual to test the transmitter at high power the problem shows up.


With the Power out turned to around 11 watts, the relay clicks and the 
power out is taken over by the KPA 100. Every thing works great until I 
get to right at 20 watts. Any power level 20 watts or over, when it is 
keyed, a relay klicks, power out shuts off and nothing out. At 18 watts 
the power out from the KPA 100 is fine. There are no error messages that I 
can find, even on the secondary message menus.


Any suggestions why the PA works up to 20 watts then shuts down with no 
error message?


Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Nelson Wittstock' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Soldering station


I just ordered the new KXV3 RXA board for my K3.  The instructions state
requirements for the soldering station to be used in the installation of 
the


new board.  My workshop has never had need for high tech soldering and
consequently I do not own a soldering station.   I have several assorted
soldering irons and guns that have served me well in the past but I guess 
I
will have to join the modern world.  Since I would like to keep updating 
my
K3 it looks like I will need to buy a soldering station.  In looking 
through


Googled references I see many stations in the $100 and up range.  Is it
absolutely necessary to spend that much to ensure the safety of my radio 
or

are there some less expensive suitable alternatives?

Nelson - K8DJC

--

That mod is one of the easiest in terms of soldering. You are soldering 
two

fine wires to closely-spaced connector terminals that, if overheated, will
melt the connector header or lift traces. But it's not nearly as critical 
as

many component installations in other locations. Two more leads are
connected to BNC connector terminals that require significant heat in any
case. The RXA board comes with the leads pre-attached, so there's no
soldering to do to the RXA board itself.

It's a judgment call. Elecraft wants you to be successful and your chance 
of

having trouble is greatly reduced by using the right tools, and a good
soldering station is a tool you'll use again and again if you do any work 
on

your rigs.

You can get away with less. I've repaired a lot of SMD circuit boards
sitting cross-legged on the deck in the navigating bridge of a ship using 
a

portable butane-powered soldering iron while holding a flashlight in my
teeth.

I've also had lots and lots of practice over decades of soldering that 
lets

me judge the temperature of the tip by the smell and, by being very, very
careful, I've yet to destroy a board or parts. I did have the advantage of
growing up with the pc board industry, first working on boards back in 
the
1960s that had large push-in pins to which leads were soldered, then 
boards

with big thick, wide traces that have slowly evolved into the tissue-thin,
tiny traces we find on many boards today.

Even so, whenever possible I'll use a temperature-controlled soldering
station in a comfortable, well-lit shop.

Over time, I've found that a good soldering station costs me pennies a 
month

to own and use. I don't consider that too much to spend to protect circuit
boards, almost any one of which is worth more than the iron.

I currently have a Hakko 936 that cost me less than $100 several years ago
from www.tequipment.net.

Bottom line, it's a matter of how skilled you are at soldering and how 
much

risk you are comfortable taking with the pc board and components.

Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering station

2008-03-30 Thread Bill W4ZV



Nelson Wittstock K8DJC wrote:
 
 Since I would like to keep updating my 
 K3 it looks like I will need to buy a soldering station.  In looking
 through 
 Googled references I see many stations in the $100 and up range.  Is it 
 absolutely necessary to spend that much to ensure the safety of my radio
 or 
 are there some less expensive suitable alternatives?
 

No it's not necessary.  The Circuit Specialists CSI-STATION1A is a virtual
clone of the Hakko 936...same circuit diagram, same ESD protection, same
physical construction and uses the same tips...but it only costs $39.95.

http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7307

It comes with a 0.8 mm conical tip (good for fine pitch SMD digital devices)
but I would also recommend a 1.6 mm chisel tip (KD-M-1.6D for $4.95) for
general use (including all recent K3 mods, K2 thru-hole assembly, etc).

If you order at least $50.00 worth, you can also get a DMM free.

http://www.circuitspecialists.com/level.itml/icOid/190

73,  Bill  W4ZV



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[Elecraft] 15 Meters

2008-03-30 Thread Ron Polityka

Hello,

15m is open.

Just worked John de WA6L running his K3 with 100w.

Had a good short QSO before the QSB got us.

72 and Thanks,
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL
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www.n3epa.org/

K1 - SN 01011
K2 - SN 01392

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 100 Watt Pa Problem

2008-03-30 Thread Matt Zilmer
You might want to make sure your power supply isn't doing its foldback
or current limiting thing.  If it is, symptoms you've described
should repeat 100% of the time.

matt, W6NIA
k3 # 24

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:19:11 -0600, you wrote:

Hello,

I just noticed something else on this problem. The whole radio resets, like 
turning it off then on again. The word Elecraft pops up on the LCD and the 
DSP red light blinks on, just like I turned it off then on again.

Any suggestions?

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: DW Holtman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 100 Watt Pa Problem


 Hello,

 I was wondering if anyone else has had a problem like ythis one?

 I'm was in the process of finishing up my KPA 100. All of the power 
 supply, bias adjustments etc went as per the book. When I got to page 50 
 in the manual to test the transmitter at high power the problem shows up.

 With the Power out turned to around 11 watts, the relay clicks and the 
 power out is taken over by the KPA 100. Every thing works great until I 
 get to right at 20 watts. Any power level 20 watts or over, when it is 
 keyed, a relay klicks, power out shuts off and nothing out. At 18 watts 
 the power out from the KPA 100 is fine. There are no error messages that I 
 can find, even on the secondary message menus.

 Any suggestions why the PA works up to 20 watts then shuts down with no 
 error message?

 Best,
 DW Holtman
 WB7SSN

 - Original Message - 
 From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Nelson Wittstock' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
 Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:00 PM
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Soldering station


 I just ordered the new KXV3 RXA board for my K3.  The instructions state
 requirements for the soldering station to be used in the installation of 
 the

 new board.  My workshop has never had need for high tech soldering and
 consequently I do not own a soldering station.   I have several assorted
 soldering irons and guns that have served me well in the past but I guess 
 I
 will have to join the modern world.  Since I would like to keep updating 
 my
 K3 it looks like I will need to buy a soldering station.  In looking 
 through

 Googled references I see many stations in the $100 and up range.  Is it
 absolutely necessary to spend that much to ensure the safety of my radio 
 or
 are there some less expensive suitable alternatives?

 Nelson - K8DJC

 --

 That mod is one of the easiest in terms of soldering. You are soldering 
 two
 fine wires to closely-spaced connector terminals that, if overheated, will
 melt the connector header or lift traces. But it's not nearly as critical 
 as
 many component installations in other locations. Two more leads are
 connected to BNC connector terminals that require significant heat in any
 case. The RXA board comes with the leads pre-attached, so there's no
 soldering to do to the RXA board itself.

 It's a judgment call. Elecraft wants you to be successful and your chance 
 of
 having trouble is greatly reduced by using the right tools, and a good
 soldering station is a tool you'll use again and again if you do any work 
 on
 your rigs.

 You can get away with less. I've repaired a lot of SMD circuit boards
 sitting cross-legged on the deck in the navigating bridge of a ship using 
 a
 portable butane-powered soldering iron while holding a flashlight in my
 teeth.

 I've also had lots and lots of practice over decades of soldering that 
 lets
 me judge the temperature of the tip by the smell and, by being very, very
 careful, I've yet to destroy a board or parts. I did have the advantage of
 growing up with the pc board industry, first working on boards back in 
 the
 1960s that had large push-in pins to which leads were soldered, then 
 boards
 with big thick, wide traces that have slowly evolved into the tissue-thin,
 tiny traces we find on many boards today.

 Even so, whenever possible I'll use a temperature-controlled soldering
 station in a comfortable, well-lit shop.

 Over time, I've found that a good soldering station costs me pennies a 
 month
 to own and use. I don't consider that too much to spend to protect circuit
 boards, almost any one of which is worth more than the iron.

 I currently have a Hakko 936 that cost me less than $100 several years ago
 from www.tequipment.net.

 Bottom line, it's a matter of how skilled you are at soldering and how 
 much
 risk you are comfortable taking with the pc board and components.

 Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] K2 100 Watt Pa Problem

2008-03-30 Thread wb2srf
From the description of your problem it could be your power supply. 
Check the power supply voltage with a analog or digital voltmeter, under
load it should not drop below 12V. The K2/ KPA100 requires a good high
current power supply. I use an Alinco DM-330MV set to 13.8V. This power
supply is rated for an output current of up to 32 Amperes.

GL 73,
Bob Johansen WB2SRF
K2 S/N 5622
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW rise time mod - Definition

2008-03-30 Thread Lyle Johnson
A cosine is shifted by 90 degrees, starting at -1 for 0 degrees, 
building to +1 at 180 degrees, and dropping again to -1 at 360 degrees.


The cosine of zero is +1 and the cosine of 180 degrees is -1.


Ah, I shoud've checked my math before I hit send.  Yes, you are correct.

Lyle

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: AGC mod

2008-03-30 Thread a.yoshida

Don

Thanks for your comment.
Although AGC OFF is a way to avoid annoying action my EAR does not prefer  
sudden

loud audio.  I will enjoy unsoldering SMD parts ,  Hi

Thanks


On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:17:16 +0900, Don Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Aki - I have noticed that the HAGC mod makes the AGC
THR seem to have more range and effect at the higher
values. I also now use my AGC in the OFF position for
CW, I enjoy the most energy in the audio and less of a
smoothing effect.

However for SSB and AM I require more of a smoothing
effect as if AGC THR is even lower than the lowest
available setup parameter, which I will be looking for
in the next firmware update.

This is all very low priority for me however because
the K3 is already better than anything I have ever
tried before. ;-)


[Elecraft] K3: AGC mod
a.yoshida ayoshida at my.email.ne.jp
Sun Mar 30 07:59:38 EST 2008

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Hello

I am one of happy K3 users. S/N 00060

I found annoying AGC action when operating CW with
2.8KHz filter
even if I configure AGC THR in config menu to highest
value.

Can we expect more improvement with AGC mod ?

I have already ordered CW rise time mod kit and AGC
mod kit though.





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Re: [Elecraft] K2 100 Watt Pa Problem

2008-03-30 Thread DW Holtman

Hello,

I want to thank Matt, W6NLA, Robie - AJ4F and Mike AI4NS for their inputs. 
They all three hit the nail on the head.


I was using an Astron linear 35 amp supply. I bought in recently on Ebay, 
and assumed it worked, because it reads 13.8VDC with no load. I hooked up a 
20 Amp Astron and it no longer trips. Guess I will be looking for a 
schematic diagram for an Astron RS-35A Power supply. I also was feeding the 
RS-35A through an MFJ 1118 outlet box. I might have to take a good look at 
it too.


Now I have a different problem. It stays up and transmits, but only puts out 
about 23 watts. The Power Supply is reading 13.6VDC at 23 watts, that is not 
the problem. The LCD shows the correct power at 23 watts (even though the 
power level pot is set for anywhere from 25 to 100 Watts) and a 1.0 to 1 
SWR. I'm transmitting into an MFJ tuner in the dummy load switch position.


I think this might be something I did wrong with the set-up. I'm going to go 
through the whole set up again step by step.


Thanks again to a fine group on this forum.

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN



- Original Message - 
From: Matt Zilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: DW Holtman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: DW Holtman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 100 Watt Pa Problem


You might want to make sure your power supply isn't doing its foldback
or current limiting thing.  If it is, symptoms you've described
should repeat 100% of the time.

matt, W6NIA
k3 # 24

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:19:11 -0600, you wrote:


Hello,

I just noticed something else on this problem. The whole radio resets, like
turning it off then on again. The word Elecraft pops up on the LCD and the
DSP red light blinks on, just like I turned it off then on again.

Any suggestions?

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: DW Holtman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 100 Watt Pa Problem



Hello,

I was wondering if anyone else has had a problem like ythis one?

I'm was in the process of finishing up my KPA 100. All of the power
supply, bias adjustments etc went as per the book. When I got to page 50
in the manual to test the transmitter at high power the problem shows up.

With the Power out turned to around 11 watts, the relay clicks and the
power out is taken over by the KPA 100. Every thing works great until I
get to right at 20 watts. Any power level 20 watts or over, when it is
keyed, a relay klicks, power out shuts off and nothing out. At 18 watts
the power out from the KPA 100 is fine. There are no error messages that 
I

can find, even on the secondary message menus.

Any suggestions why the PA works up to 20 watts then shuts down with no
error message?

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'Nelson Wittstock' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Soldering station


I just ordered the new KXV3 RXA board for my K3.  The instructions state
requirements for the soldering station to be used in the installation of
the

new board.  My workshop has never had need for high tech soldering and
consequently I do not own a soldering station.   I have several assorted
soldering irons and guns that have served me well in the past but I guess
I
will have to join the modern world.  Since I would like to keep updating
my
K3 it looks like I will need to buy a soldering station.  In looking
through

Googled references I see many stations in the $100 and up range.  Is it
absolutely necessary to spend that much to ensure the safety of my radio
or
are there some less expensive suitable alternatives?

Nelson - K8DJC

--

That mod is one of the easiest in terms of soldering. You are soldering
two
fine wires to closely-spaced connector terminals that, if overheated, 
will

melt the connector header or lift traces. But it's not nearly as critical
as
many component installations in other locations. Two more leads are
connected to BNC connector terminals that require significant heat in any
case. The RXA board comes with the leads pre-attached, so there's no
soldering to do to the RXA board itself.

It's a judgment call. Elecraft wants you to be successful and your chance
of
having trouble is greatly reduced by using the right tools, and a good
soldering station is a tool you'll use again and again if you do any work
on
your rigs.

You can get away with less. I've repaired a lot of SMD circuit boards
sitting cross-legged on the deck in the navigating bridge of a ship using
a
portable butane-powered soldering iron while holding a flashlight in my
teeth.

I've also had lots and lots of practice over decades of soldering that
lets
me judge the temperature of the tip by the smell and, by being very, very
careful, I've yet to destroy a board or parts. I did 

[Elecraft] K2 Backlight LED leads too short

2008-03-30 Thread twimsatt
My K2 backlight assembly is to be mounted 1/8 above the board but the  
leads to the LED's are 1/8.  Is there a solution or special technique  
to install this that is not spelled out in the manual?


73,
Tom
KB3PNU
Wimsatt Website:
http://wimsatt.truepath.com/




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Backlight LED leads too short

2008-03-30 Thread DW Holtman

Tom,

Here is what I did, click on K2 diffuser

http://www.heavymetalradios.com/
I think Elecraft recommends soldering it together without a mechanical 
connection. Hope this helps.


Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:09 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Backlight LED leads too short


My K2 backlight assembly is to be mounted 1/8 above the board but the 
leads to the LED's are 1/8.  Is there a solution or special technique  to 
install this that is not spelled out in the manual?


73,
Tom
KB3PNU
Wimsatt Website:
http://wimsatt.truepath.com/




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Re: [META] [Elecraft] test

2008-03-30 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

Robert Friess wrote:

unicode


All you've proved is that a UTF-8 character set header gets through 
(none of your message was other than the ASCII subset of Unicode).  You 
can't prove that everyone on the list has mail readers that understand 
UTF-8 and have suitable fonts available and selected .  You haven't even 
proved that the list is 8 bit clean.


Incidentally, when testing on live lists it is a good idea to explain 
exactly why you needed to do a test on the live list.  Actually, there 
was at least one other message in the current digest that tested UTF-8 
incidentally to being a real article and that one does have a character 
that is in neither ASCII nor ISO 8859/1 (U+2122).  This worked in both 
the digest and the qth.net web interface, with my viewers and fonts.


(The ASCII encoding of ASCII characters is identical to the UTF-8 
encoding of them.)





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RE: [Elecraft] K2 Backlight LED leads too short

2008-03-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
See Errata G4 to the Owner's Manual, item 2. You should have gotten it with
your kit, but if not it's available on the Elecraft web site here:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K2_Errata_Rev_G-4.pdf

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-


My K2 backlight assembly is to be mounted 1/8 above the board but the  
leads to the LED's are 1/8.  Is there a solution or special technique  
to install this that is not spelled out in the manual?

73,
Tom
KB3PNU
Wimsatt Website:
http://wimsatt.truepath.com/

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[Elecraft] K3's arriving

2008-03-30 Thread Brett Howard
Boy the lack of K3's arriving has been sudden.  The last arrival notice
I've seen and added to the spreadsheet is serial no 615 on 3/20.  Anyone
get one more recently than that?


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[Elecraft] FW: T1 oh-oh

2008-03-30 Thread Dale Putnam


Does this ever frustrate me but it is easier to say oops, and may be 
speedier to ask,
than to figure it out myself.
  Yes I know the difference and the pinout of Mr. MCU.
Then after passing all the prelim tests... nothing.
A little bird whispered into my ear about the interuption
just about the time I was placing the IC into the socket.
And.. being in the death to ICs hurry... not rechecking the
orientation. Well.. the IC was sure 'nuff in backwards.
So.. removal, replace in socket correctly...
Still no relays no bypass, but the leds pass the prelim test...
Any ideas? statements...   wetnoodle lashings...??
Did it commit IC-icide?


--... ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy


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Re: Junk: [Elecraft] K3's arriving

2008-03-30 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:20:39 -0700, you wrote:

Boy the lack of K3's arriving has been sudden.  The last arrival notice
I've seen and added to the spreadsheet is serial no 615 on 3/20.  Anyone
get one more recently than that?

[snip]

Not all Elecraft customers report the arrival of their K3's.

People who are getting them now ordered after July of 2007, so they are probably
not as interested in keeping track of the delivery statistics as early buyers
were.

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[Elecraft] K2 High Current Level

2008-03-30 Thread n0jrn

Hi gang:

One other question to insure I am not setting myself up for disappointment. 
:-)


When you use CAL  CUR  to set the current limit,  is there a limit to how 
high one can go without jeopardizing the rig??


My K2  has  the  KSB2,  KDSP2,  KNB2,  KAT2,  KBT2,  KIO2K160RX 
installed.


When I key the rig with it set to 10 watts out,   I'm getting  about  2.8 
amps of draw. I didn't figure that was unusual with all the options on 
board.   BUT  it kept giving me a high current warning when I first key up 
and it appeared to be cutting my output back.   So,  I went into CAL CUR 
and raised the current limit to 3.0 amps.


Initial setting per the manual was 2.5 amps.

Just wanted to be sure I wasn't going to burn the house down

What cha think ??

72 Jerry N0JRN 


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[Elecraft] Trade NIB 400 Hz Roofing Filter for K3 for 250 Hz

2008-03-30 Thread John Klewer
I have a not yet installed 400 Hz filter for my K3 and would rather, 
with the particular filter complement I have, install a 250 Hz 8-pole.


If you are interested in a trade please email off list

Thanks

John, N6AX
K3 567

Robert Friess wrote:

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 High Current Level

2008-03-30 Thread Robie Elms
Jerry,

The KSB2 Adapter operating instructions (page 22) indicate that CAL
CUR should be set to a maximum of 3.5 amps. Mine is set to 3.5 amps
and under some conditions I get an HI CUR using a Heil ICM microphone.
 I use the lower mic gain setting and the K2 seems to work very well.

Robie - AJ4F

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:19 PM, n0jrn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi gang:

 One other question to insure I am not setting myself up for disappointment.
 :-)

 When you use CAL  CUR  to set the current limit,  is there a limit to how
 high one can go without jeopardizing the rig??

 My K2  has  the  KSB2,  KDSP2,  KNB2,  KAT2,  KBT2,  KIO2K160RX
 installed.

 When I key the rig with it set to 10 watts out,   I'm getting  about  2.8
 amps of draw. I didn't figure that was unusual with all the options on
 board.   BUT  it kept giving me a high current warning when I first key up
 and it appeared to be cutting my output back.   So,  I went into CAL CUR
 and raised the current limit to 3.0 amps.

 Initial setting per the manual was 2.5 amps.

 Just wanted to be sure I wasn't going to burn the house down

 What cha think ??

 72 Jerry N0JRN

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[Elecraft] IF passband graphic

2008-03-30 Thread ab2tc

Hi,

Is it just me or is the graphic display of the IF passband rather erratic? I
won't go into any detail, but have anybody else noticed that the display is
not only dependent on the current passband state but past history like if
the radio has just been turned on, the knobs have been touched since
powerup, etc?

Knut - AB2TC
new proud K3 owner
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[Elecraft] K2: Broadcast Station Breakthrough on the 80 Metre Band

2008-03-30 Thread KBG Luxford

Hi Gang,

Here's a funny thing.  I have just replaced my two parallel connected 
dipoles (one cut for 80, the other cut for 40, connected together at the 
apex and fed by a 1:1 balun and RG58CU coax) with a double zepp with 
just one set of radiating elements cut a little longer than required to 
resonate on 3.6 MHz, and fed with 450 ohm balanced line connected to a 
4:1 balun just outside the shack and a short length of RG58CU to the K2 
with KAT100.


The apex of the new antenna is some 12 feet or so higher than the old as 
I now leave my wind-up tower fully extended.  (Extended height is about 
45 feet). Seems to work well, except that I noted considerable broadcast 
station breakthrough on the 80 metre band that was not experienced with 
the old dipoles.  However, when the Tune button is held and the KAT100 
does its magic, the breakthrough disappears.


Curious.

73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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[Elecraft] Problems with my K2 --- can anyone help??

2008-03-30 Thread Norm Klieman
My K2 just started with these issues yesterday.

Does anyone have any suggestion other than sending the
rig to Elecraft?

When I power the K2 up, it is like it has no antenna
connection (I have the KAT 100 external tuner that I
use with the rig). When I also power up only a few of
the letters for ELECRAFT appear on the LED Screen.
Maybe 3 or 4 letters only and the S meter has three
bars then a few blank and then 2 filled in. The rig
sounds like it is almost muted or at times no audio.

Also when I power up, the KAT 100 shows the rig in the
low power position even though I have the pot set for
100 watts.

It can take me about 5 to 10 minutes of turning the
rig on and off until it will then function normally.
Once normal it is fine unless the rig is off for about
an hour.

If I turn the rig off for an hour and come back to it
it will not start normally and I have the same issues
all over again.

I have checked all of my connections into the rig
especially the power connections and antenna
connections.

It kind of reminds me if I had an IC that was somehow
failing somewhere?

Thanks for the feedback!

Best 73's -- Norm  K9NK


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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Broadcast Station Breakthrough on the 80 Metre Band

2008-03-30 Thread Ken, KA0W
Hello Kevin!

too much antenna gain - better cut it in half - HI!

The tuner maybe acting like a BandPass filter keeping
the the BC out.

You may have sufficient gain at BC frequencies now
with the new antenna. 

At times, especially in foggy or wet local conditions,
I receive interesting things when using my 80m 1/4
wave vertical. Within a few short miles are MW BC
towers.

Have fun with the new antenna!

Ken, KA0W
K2/100





--- KBG Luxford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Gang,
 
 Here's a funny thing.  I have just replaced my two
 parallel connected 
 dipoles (one cut for 80, the other cut for 40,
 connected together at the 
 apex and fed by a 1:1 balun and RG58CU coax) with a
 double zepp with 
 just one set of radiating elements cut a little
 longer than required to 
 resonate on 3.6 MHz, and fed with 450 ohm balanced
 line connected to a 
 4:1 balun just outside the shack and a short length
 of RG58CU to the K2 
 with KAT100.
 
 The apex of the new antenna is some 12 feet or so
 higher than the old as 
 I now leave my wind-up tower fully extended. 
 (Extended height is about 
 45 feet). Seems to work well, except that I noted
 considerable broadcast 
 station breakthrough on the 80 metre band that was
 not experienced with 
 the old dipoles.  However, when the Tune button is
 held and the KAT100 
 does its magic, the breakthrough disappears.
 
 Curious.
 
 73
 Kevin
 VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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RE: [Elecraft] Problems with my K2 --- can anyone help??

2008-03-30 Thread Gary Hvizdak
At 20:36:49 EST on Sunday Mar 30th, 2008 Norm Klieman (K9NK) wrote ...

My K2 just started with these issues yesterday.  Does anyone have any 
suggestion other than sending the rig to Elecraft?
:
:
It kind of reminds me if I had an IC that was somehow failing somewhere?

--

Hi Norm,

At first glance this sounds like classic unsoldered IC pin problem, 
probably on one of the larger MCU devices.  How old is your rig?

Don't send the rig to Elecraft without first opening it up and checking 
that all of the pins are soldered.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX

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[Elecraft] K2 finally up and working.

2008-03-30 Thread DW Holtman

Hello,

Thank you to everyone who helped me along the way building my K2. I crossed 
the last hurddle today and got the KPA-100 up and running. I got it on the 
air and made my first contact with K0DT  in Iowa. I was only pushing around 
50 watts. I'm still a little nervous about the KPA-100.


Happy to finally get the chance to put this little rig to work.

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for March 30th 31st, 2008

2008-03-30 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   As the snow fell we held our nets.  From the weather report I am reading the 
snow should end in a day or two.  Good!  I am a little tired of digging down to 
the woodpile.  The winter has lasted long enough and my last woodpile will be 
gone soon if this keeps up.  Looks like I have some ready made chores for when 
the sun comes back.  Hopefully the daffodils will survive the foot of snow 
around them.  Luckily none of them had budded before the snow returned.  
   Today twenty meters had a high noise floor.  Appears the sun has been 
sending a stream at us which is causing the noise.  Forty meters had less 
atmospheric noise but there was a quite loud station right on frequency who 
could not hear any of us.  Made copy of the less than S5 stations a chore.  QSB 
often dragged stations below that point.  I don't think I had a headache during 
the twenty meter net but I sure did during the forty meter one!  Aspirin, 
dinner, and a break from the headphones have eased it somewhat. 
 
   On to the lists =

On 14040 kHz at 2300z:
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
K9DMV - Joe - IL - K2 - 5628
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457
K9ZTV - Kent - MO - K3 - 21
N0JRN - Jerry - MO - K2 - 6272
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
KC7OTG - Brett - OR - K1 - 2474
WA7BOC - Roger - WA - K3 - 75
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K2 - 5345
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K1 - 553
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
NO8V - John - MI 
K0PC - Pat - MN - KX1 - 549

On 7045 kHz at 0100z:
W7AQK - Dave - AZ - K3 - 96
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K1 - 553
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
W6PSC - Buffy - CA
WB8RTJ - Jim - OH - K2 - 5886 QNI #5!
K9ZTV - Kent - MO - K3 - 21
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K2 - 5345 QNI #60!!!
W0JFR - John - CO - K2 - 4507
NO8V - John - MI  QNI #20!!
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866  ** QNI #110 **
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422QNI #85!!!
W0SZ - Steve - CO - K3 - 176
K0PC - Pat - MN - KX1 - 549
KL7V/4 - Sam - AL - K2 - 6143
WB5BKL - Nick - TX - K3 - 231

   Except for the headache I had fun.  Yes, I enjoy doing this, can't you tell? 
 If you go to the web site: ecn.visionseer.com you will find some updates to 
it.  Long in coming updates!  However, you can now look at the spreadsheet 
which logs all of the data I store.  Please check through it and send me any 
corrections.  It may take a while to get them all fixed but I truly hope not!  
I try to fix it each week as it begins to run away with itself.  
   A few notes are in order so you can understand my system.  Serial numbers 
are prefaced by a character: k for K1, x for KX1, t for K3, or nothing for K2.  
The first page is ordered by letters in the suffix and the order you first 
checked in.  The second page is ordered by when you checked in.  It also lists 
each date you checked in and on which net thusly: 20 meters/40 meters.  There 
were times when there was only one net; this was on 20 meters.  The next page 
is in a histogram form listing how many times you have checked in by fives or 
more.  
   The next page is what I print out and keep in front of me to give me some 
hints.  Normally I remember your name but this is how I get help on those days 
when I just don't have things together ;)  If you look at the next page you 
will see there are still two more states necessary for the Elecraft WAS award: 
DE and SD.  And the last page is a list of serial numbers.  Please check this 
and send me any corrections.  I will try to repost this spreadsheet on the web 
site every so often (AKA when I get time and the gumption).

   Thank you for so many fun years and so many check ins.  Stay healthy so I 
can work you all again next week!
   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)


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