Re: [Elecraft] Check this - www.google.com

2012-02-23 Thread N. Munro
But the signal contains harmonics...

Correct! He had two daughters.

Norman - GM4KGK

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[Elecraft] K3 # 1645

2012-02-23 Thread PHIL
On the K3 sn 1645 which I listed for sale previously:
I had a very good friend go all thru it  inventory options and upgrades and 
mods.


He has listed EVERY option and upgrade and mod (except all the filters) with an 
explicit YES / NO for each.


The PDF is setup to print landscape. 

The unit will be here about noon today and then I will have pictures for anyone 
who needs them.  The unit came from a home where the owner was a light smoker.  
Any questions, email me, I do not give out my phone #.  If it is really 
important, send your phone # and I can call you.  An Icom SM-20 Microphone has 
been wired for use with this K3.  I will accept PayPal if you pay the fees.  
Unit will ship via your choice of methods at your cost from Zip 13850 or can be 
picked up here.

Thank you for your interest,

PHIL
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[Elecraft] pdf file on K3

2012-02-23 Thread PHIL
Email me for a copy of the PDF file.
PHIL
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Re: [Elecraft] . K3 dvr playback distortion

2012-02-23 Thread Geoffrey Downs
A couple of weeks ago on an 80m EU dx net that I regularly participate in I 
recorded about 10 seconds of audio from a  ZL who the net was working just 
to give him an idea of how well his nice clean signal was being received 
here in the UK.  He was happy with the playback and a number of UK 
participants in the net said without being asked that they could hardly 
distinguish between the recording and the real thing. It's not the first 
time I've done that sort of thing with similar results. In my view there's 
not much that needs fixing with the DVR.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Rodgers
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:11 PM

If you mean using the k3 dvr to record someone and play it back to them, 
that's a old problem Elecraft said they would address a year or so 
ago!!!

There needs to be a way to adjust the level and there is not at present.

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Re: [Elecraft] can't we move on

2012-02-23 Thread Mike Rodgers
I thought in the past Eric has requested to contact him with complaints but 
leave the moderating to him?

73
Mike R

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and Remoterig

2012-02-23 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello Eric,

Something about K3/0 price and remoterig?

Thanks,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W
K3 #4077

-Mensaje original-
De: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] 
Enviado el: Lunes, 06 de Febrero de 2012 05:49 p.m.
Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM
CC: dj...@arrl.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and Remoterig

Hi Jorge,

You will be able to order the Remoterigs directly form Elecraft later 
this week. We have them in stock.

73,

Eric
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On 2/6/2012 11:26 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
 Thanks Mitch,

 Now is clear for me, so the standard remoterig will work for me with my
 actual K3 and a radio control software.

 Once I have another K3 or K3/0 I will need this cables, but the remoterig
 boxes are the same.

 I need to buy remoterig in USA. So since HRO don´t answer me I am looking
 for another USA dealer.

 73,
 Jorge
 CX6VM



 -Mensaje original-
 De: Mitch Wolfson DJØQN [mailto:dj...@gmx.net]
 Enviado el: Lunes, 06 de Febrero de 2012 05:08 p.m.
 Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and Remoterig

 Jorge,

 The standard RemoteRig RRC set supports the K3 Twin mode, there is not
 a separate one hardware-wise, like there is for Yaesu.

 There is a separate box available called  K3 Twin that adds all the
 cables necessary to connect both K3's to their respective RRC's.
 However, you can build these cables if you want to save money, the
 schematics are contained in the manual that you can download from the
 RemoteRig web site.

 You can buy:
 - Either the standard RRC set from HRO, direct from RemoteRig in Sweden
 or another dealer and build your own cables. The cable set is also
 available separately (sold as the K3 Accessory Kit).
 - Or buy the K3 Twin set including cables, currently only directly from
 RemoteRig in Sweden. Elecraft should hopefully be selling these soon.

 I assume Eric or Wayne will advise on availability of these from
 Elecraft, as well as the K3/0, as soon as they are ready to.

 73,
 Mitch DJ0QN

 On 06.02.2012 19:56, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
 Hello,



 Anyone know another place out of HRO that sell the Remoterig in US?



 This guys at HRO don´t answer order emails!.



 I need to know wich is the K3 model. From the website I don´t know if
they
 have it.



 So Wayne, when will be available to buy Remoterig from Elecraft? Can you
 give us an idea of the K3/0 price?



 Thanks,

 Jorge

 CX6VM/CW5W

 K3 #4077

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Re: [Elecraft] Need plans for building small baluns for using balanced feedline with a K1

2012-02-23 Thread nr4c
I recommend the Elecraft site for manual for the BL1 or BL2 BALUNs they 
sell.  Or just buy one of them.  The BL2 is switchable from 1:1 to 4:1 
and is small, and very well designed.  I tested mine on a high end 
vector analyzer and it is flat from 160-6meters and beyond.  Handles my 
K3/100 and Kenwood TS-520S very well.

...bc


On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:27:26 -0500, George Averill wrote:
 I know I should be able to find this information someplace, but so
 far I haven't come up with it, and I am sure someone has already
 designed these.  I would appreciate it if you would send me the 
 plans.
 Please send to my email k4...@arrl.net so I will be sure to get it.
 I am getting way to many emails at present, and some gets lost in the
 shuffle.

 72, George
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Re: [Elecraft] Need plans for building small baluns for using balanced feedline with a K1

2012-02-23 Thread Ray Cadmus
Check out N5ESE's site:

http://www.n5ese.com/gizmo.htm

Lots of neat stuff!

73,

rayW0PFO

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On 02/22/2012 10:27 PM, George Averill wrote:
 I know I should be able to find this information someplace, but so far I 
 haven't come up with it, and I am sure someone has already designed these.  I 
 would appreciate it if you would send me the plans.  Please send to my email 
 k4...@arrl.net so I will be sure to get it.  I am getting way to many emails 
 at present, and some gets lost in the shuffle.

 72, George
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Re: [Elecraft] can't we move on

2012-02-23 Thread Bill
I did move on!  I got a K3 and am not looking back. Thanks for the info 
Mike, sure appreciate it.

By the way - I also quit using HRD. Nothing but a battle brewing on that 
front anyway - so I do it all from the rig. Very easy - that is what the 
front panel was designed for.

Bill W2BLC


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Re: [Elecraft] . K3 dvr playback distortion

2012-02-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Geoff and all,

Currently, there is no way to bypass the equalization for the DVR.
When you record someone's off-the-air signal, it passes through your RX 
EQ settings, and then when you play it back, it goes through your TX EQ 
settings - so the audio gets hit with the double whammy of both RX EQ 
and TX EQ in a situation where you do not want any equalization at all.

If your EQ settings are all flat, then you can obtain and playback 
something that represents what you heard, but if you have either the RX 
or TX EQ settings adjusted for your ears, speaker, headphones, 
microphone, etc.  Then the individual whom you recorded will not be able 
to hear an honest assessment of how he sounded when you play it back 
over the air.

So yes, any fix will not be applied to the DVR, rather what is needed 
is the ability to turn off EQ when recording or transmitting previously 
recorded audio.  One would normally want to have the audio pass through 
TX EQ if it was recorded locally, but playback of recordings made off 
the air is different and needs EQ turned off.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/23/2012 7:55 AM, Geoffrey Downs wrote:
 A couple of weeks ago on an 80m EU dx net that I regularly participate in I
 recorded about 10 seconds of audio from a  ZL who the net was working just
 to give him an idea of how well his nice clean signal was being received
 here in the UK.  He was happy with the playback and a number of UK
 participants in the net said without being asked that they could hardly
 distinguish between the recording and the real thing. It's not the first
 time I've done that sort of thing with similar results. In my view there's
 not much that needs fixing with the DVR.

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 Release Options/Accessories Update

2012-02-23 Thread Tony Estep
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Greg a...@cablespeed.com wrote:
...playback requires two  button presses (msg#)

I hope they change this, for the sake of QRP DXers who are trying to
get their call through a pileup.

 ...CAT commands specific to the KX3 are a super set of the K3 commands.
 So I was easily able to connect...

Excellent! For those of us who have a good computer setup with the K3,
that will make life sweet.

Thanks for posting this info, Greg. I'm trying to be patient


Tony KT0NY





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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: KX3 Show Tell

2012-02-23 Thread KH2TJ
Hi Barry,

No I didn't.  If I'm not working, I'll give you  a call (that's  if you 
plan on going?)
and maybe meet up with you in Truckee before heading  down to Rick's.

Thanks for the heads up!

Later,
Todd KH2TJ


K6ST Barry Bettman wrote:
 Hi Todd,

 Don't know is you got this email or not ... if you are around Rick is 
 having show and tell on his new KX3.

 73,

 Barry K6ST

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: *Rick Tavan* r...@tavan.com mailto:r...@tavan.com
 Date: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:33 PM
 Subject: KX3 Show  Tell
 To: tnth...@yahoogroups.com mailto:tnth...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: Barry Bettman k...@arrl.net mailto:k...@arrl.net, Eric KU6J 
 k...@ku6j.com mailto:k...@ku6j.com


 Barry and Eric have been following the development of the Elecraft KX3 
 with great interest and indicated interest in a demo. I'll be doing 
 that on Wednesday, Feb. 29 starting at 7:30 PM at my house. Please let 
 me know if you plan to come by so I can have enough beer on hand!

 The KX3 is a hand-holdable, trail-friendly, desktop-compatible, QRP 
 radio with many big-rig features. It includes space for 8 internal AA 
 cells, an auto antenna tuner, a multiple-bandwidth roofing filter, an 
 NiMH trickle charger and a 2M transverter. It runs = 5W on internal 
 batteries or 12W with an external 13.8V supply. It sports the same LCD 
 display as the K3 (and most of the represented features) but the front 
 panel is 40% smaller and it's only 1.5 thick. I used it last weekend 
 to drive an external amp to about 200W and made 400 Qs in the ARRL DX 
 CW. It can send and decode CW, RTTY and PSK without a computer. It 
 also works on SSB, of course, and will eventually do AM and FM. It's 
 currently in field test, so not all features have been implemented and 
 its performance numbers are not yet committed. But it's pretty darn 
 good for a modestly-priced radio that is equally at home on the trail, 
 in the car and at home.

 73,

 /Rick N6XI

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 Release Options/Accessories Update

2012-02-23 Thread Greg
You're welcome :)


On 2/23/2012 6:55 AM, Tony Estep wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Grega...@cablespeed.com  wrote:
 ...playback requires two  button presses (msg#)
 I hope they change this, for the sake of QRP DXers who are trying to
 get their call through a pileup.

 ...CAT commands specific to the KX3 are a super set of the K3 commands.
 So I was easily able to connect...
 Excellent! For those of us who have a good computer setup with the K3,
 that will make life sweet.

 Thanks for posting this info, Greg. I'm trying to be patient


 Tony KT0NY





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[Elecraft] [OT] Eric, are you out there?

2012-02-23 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Sorry for the bandwidth folks...

Eric, I emailed you privately a couple of days ago. I'm sure you are 
busy and getting caught up, but we've had problems with my email address 
in your spam bucket before as well. Please let me know if my emails are 
getting to you.

Thanks - my call at comcast dot net

73,
Dave W8FGU
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Re: [Elecraft] Need plans for building small baluns for using balanced feedline with a K1

2012-02-23 Thread Les Gasser W9XC
Re: baluns for the K1 (and in general):

WB6ZQZ's triple ratio balun (original source for the Buddipole TRB design)
http://www.antennalaunchers.com/trb/index.html

K6LMP's six-ratio balun design:
http://www.k6lmp.us/K6LMP/Sextuple_Ratio_Balun_for_Buddipole.html

Other homebrew balun design/construction notes:

www.njqrp.org/balun/Balun%20Manual%20-%20final.pdf
www.n0ss.net/qrp_4-1_guanella-type_balun.pdf
www.qsl.net/n1lo/n1lobaln.pdf

They're real easy to build.

- Les, W9Xc

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Re: [Elecraft] . K3 dvr playback distortion

2012-02-23 Thread Geoffrey Downs
Of course you're right Don. More than three years ago I was amongst the 
first to install a KDVR3 and Lyle too explained the signal paths clearly at 
the time. I'm simply reporting my experience to try to put things into 
perspective: when I record a station over the air and play it back over the 
air, it usually provokes comments from listeners about how well the DVR 
reproduces the original. This is despite my RX and TX EQ settings (the 
former minimal, the latter not). Naturally it isn't *exactly* the same as 
the original but somehow listeners seem to think it gets very near. 
Certainly no-one has ever reported to me distortion that was not on the 
original. I know of no other rig on the market that does it better - in fact 
most cannot do it all.

73 to all,

Geoff
G3UCK

-Original Message- 
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:52 PM

Geoff and all,

Currently, there is no way to bypass the equalization for the DVR.
When you record someone's off-the-air signal, it passes through your RX
EQ settings, and then when you play it back, it goes through your TX EQ
settings - so the audio gets hit with the double whammy of both RX EQ
and TX EQ in a situation where you do not want any equalization at all.


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[Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

2012-02-23 Thread Bill K9YEQ
I posted this on the Yahoo reflector for the KX3.  Will share here as well.

I do not generally use Software to run my Elecraft radios other than the 
macros.  I work on PCs/software for a living, so I love the options available 
with all the Elecraft radios.  Like Greg, I have mine sitting just above the 
pullout keyboard/Mouse tray in front of the K3.  I have a easy to reach antenna 
switch.  I have listened to audio coming from both units without any signal 
conditioning, filters, NB, NR, etc.  Hard to tell the two apart on the PC 
stereo speakers.  That is very sweet.  
 
Now in the living room where I have another feed line to the station antenna 
switches, I sit with the KX3 on my sofa arm chair.  I have the key plugged in.  
I also have a ZN QRP paddle plugged in, as it is my favorite.  However the 
Elecraft plug is the easiest since I don’t have to drag around the cables.  My 
remoted tuner doesn’t like to tune as it takes a minimum of 10 watts to 
initiate.  So I pretty much have to tune using the K3 and then switch an 
antenna over.  I will be changing that set up so I can tune the shortened 160 – 
10 dipole or 350’ loop without the remote tuner.
 
I have been using Lithium AA sized throw-aways for now.  I have tried the 
rechargeables, but the life is rather short.  Wayne is adjusting this parameter 
to get more life out.  The clock/Charger is in progress and I am anxiously 
waiting to get that installed.  I like the portability, brings a whole new life 
to this hobby.  
 
Patience… I demonstrated a tremendous amount of that as a tester for the K2.  
When it first came out, it was CW only!  It took a while for the tuner, SSB, 
DSP, etc., all to be designed and released.  As I recall I tested most of those 
as well.  The KX1 came with only the basic unit.  I tested on that one as well.
 
I know you will be happy once released, as the fit and finish will be what you 
expect.  The hardware will be excellent.  The tuner is incredible… I don’t know 
how Wayne and company do it (I have loaded a bunch of stuff without issue other 
than 160, of course efficiency stinks for some of the stuff I have tried).  My 
favorite will be the ATX Walkabout, Wayne uses the MFJ version, and using the 
banana plug to BNC connector that I used on the KX1.  
 
We are looking forward to the next firmware release to get rid of some kinks.  
Will keep you posted….  Back to work!  ☺
 
73,
Bill
K9YEQ
KX3 Field Test #12
 
From: k...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:k...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TJ Campie
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:55 AM
To: Greg
Cc: k...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [KX3] Patience in not a virtue
 
  
Oh duh, missread the original post.  Thought you were saying you had ANOTHER 
piece of hardware for a tuning pod.  Yes, the KX3 kind of can act like that 
with the SDR nature of things... Very cool!  Have you been using it with 
PowerSDR/IF or something?  We have not seen that use case from any of the field 
testers yet.

TJ W0EA
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Greg a...@cablespeed.com wrote:
Something akin to the TenTec remote 302 with some function buttons and an 
encoder for tuning the radio.  The KX3 is a complete tuning pod as you can set 
it right next to your keyboard and you have the controls right there.

73


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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Eric, are you out there?

2012-02-23 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
I apologize again - I should have specified THE Eric Swartz ;-)

73,
Dave W8FGU


On 2/23/2012 1:04 PM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:
 Sorry for the bandwidth folks...

 Eric, I emailed you privately a couple of days ago. I'm sure you are
 busy and getting caught up, but we've had problems with my email address
 in your spam bucket before as well. Please let me know if my emails are
 getting to you.

 Thanks - my call at comcast dot net

 73,
 Dave W8FGU
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Re: [Elecraft] Need plans for building small baluns for using balanced feedline with a K1

2012-02-23 Thread Ingo Meyer, DK3RED
Hello George,

 I know I should be able to find this information someplace, but so far I 
 haven't come up with it, and I am sure someone has already designed these.  I 
 would appreciate it if you would send me the plans.  Please send to my email 
 k4...@arrl.net so I will be sure to get it.  I am getting way to many emails 
 at present, and some gets lost in the shuffle.

Look at http://www.njqrp.org/balun and the PDF file with the construction 
manual (based on 
Charles Greene W1CG).

73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power!
www.qrp4fun.de - dk3...@qrp4fun.de
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and Remoterig

2012-02-23 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
I am finally getting this up on the web order form later today. (It took 
more time than expected to recover from the two ham shows back to back 
over the past two weeks.)

The K3/0 is $695.95
The Remoterig 1258MKII set is 499.95

We'll also have our cable sets up there for the various configurations.

73,

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On 2/23/2012 6:00 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
 Hello Eric,

 Something about K3/0 price and remoterig?

 Thanks,
 Jorge
 CX6VM/CW5W
 K3 #4077

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

2012-02-23 Thread Igor Sokolov

- Original Message - 
From: Bill K9YEQ
I do not generally use Software to run my Elecraft radios other than the 
macros.  I work on PCs/software for a living, so I love the options 
available with all the Elecraft radios.  Like Greg, I have mine sitting 
just above the pullout keyboard/Mouse tray in front of the K3.  I have a 
easy to reach antenna switch.  I have listened to audio coming from both 
units without any signal conditioning, filters, NB, NR, etc.  Hard to tell 
the two apart on the PC stereo speakers.  That is very sweet.

Well, I was expecting audio from KX3 sound better then that of K3. Being SDR 
KX3 should not have all those in band IMD that are the result of crystal 
filter  non linearity. When I compare audio of my K3 with that of QS1R the 
difference is pretty well detectable.


73, Igor UA9CDC


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

2012-02-23 Thread Igor Sokolov

- Original Message - 
From: Bill K9YEQ
I do not generally use Software to run my Elecraft radios other than the 
macros.  I work on PCs/software for a living, so I love the options 
available with all the Elecraft radios.  Like Greg, I have mine sitting 
just above the pullout keyboard/Mouse tray in front of the K3.  I have a 
easy to reach antenna switch.  I have listened to audio coming from both 
units without any signal conditioning, filters, NB, NR, etc.  Hard to tell 
the two apart on the PC stereo speakers.  That is very sweet.

That is not quite what I was expecting. KX3 being SDR based should sound 
better then K3 because KX3 should lack in band IMD caused by non linearity 
of crystal filter. When I compare audio of my K3 with that of QS1R the 
difference is pretty noticeable. Well, sooner or later someone will measure 
in band IMD of KX3 and hopefully we will get objective data.

73, Igor UA9CDC

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

2012-02-23 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Igor,

My hearing isn't perfect.  Just ask my wife.  I am using PC speakers, not
headphones.  My environment has fan noise... but to me they sound very
similar, next to identical.  I did not observe on a scope.  YMMV.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ
KX3 Field Test #12
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Igor Sokolov
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:49 PM
To: k...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT


- Original Message -
From: Bill K9YEQ
I do not generally use Software to run my Elecraft radios other than 
the macros.  I work on PCs/software for a living, so I love the 
options available with all the Elecraft radios.  Like Greg, I have 
mine sitting just above the pullout keyboard/Mouse tray in front of the 
K3.  I have a easy to reach antenna switch.  I have listened to audio 
coming from both units without any signal conditioning, filters, NB, 
NR, etc.  Hard to tell the two apart on the PC stereo speakers.  That is
very sweet.

That is not quite what I was expecting. KX3 being SDR based should sound
better then K3 because KX3 should lack in band IMD caused by non linearity
of crystal filter. When I compare audio of my K3 with that of QS1R the
difference is pretty noticeable. Well, sooner or later someone will measure
in band IMD of KX3 and hopefully we will get objective data.

73, Igor UA9CDC

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

2012-02-23 Thread Igor Sokolov
Bill, 
I did not mean to put any blame on you. In fact I am very grateful to you for 
sharing with us your first hand impressions of this so much awaited radio.  I 
am just genuinely interested if KX3 audio is the same or better then that of 
K3. I hope, when KX3 is in production, Elecraft or some of the users will 
measure in band IMD and come up with the figures. And I hope those figures will 
exceed similar specs of K3.

73, Igor UA9CDC

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill K9YEQ 
  To: k...@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: 'Elecraft' 
  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:00 AM
  Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT



  Igor,

  My hearing isn't perfect. Just ask my wife. I am using PC speakers, not
  headphones. My environment has fan noise... but to me they sound very
  similar, next to identical. I did not observe on a scope. YMMV.

  73,
  Bill
  K9YEQ
  KX3 Field Test #12
  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Igor Sokolov
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:49 PM
  To: k...@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: 'Elecraft'
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

  - Original Message -
  From: Bill K9YEQ
  I do not generally use Software to run my Elecraft radios other than 
  the macros. I work on PCs/software for a living, so I love the 
  options available with all the Elecraft radios. Like Greg, I have 
  mine sitting just above the pullout keyboard/Mouse tray in front of the 
  K3. I have a easy to reach antenna switch. I have listened to audio 
  coming from both units without any signal conditioning, filters, NB, 
  NR, etc. Hard to tell the two apart on the PC stereo speakers. That is
  very sweet.

  That is not quite what I was expecting. KX3 being SDR based should sound
  better then K3 because KX3 should lack in band IMD caused by non linearity
  of crystal filter. When I compare audio of my K3 with that of QS1R the
  difference is pretty noticeable. Well, sooner or later someone will measure
  in band IMD of KX3 and hopefully we will get objective data.

  73, Igor UA9CDC

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

2012-02-23 Thread Niel Skousen
I would actually expect them to be very similar since the DSP backend (while 
not identical) should be very similar.   The SDR elements of the two are 
probably very close to the same.

Wayne has shown a talent over the years of applying software object 
encapsulation and  reuse concepts in hardware design.   DSP and SDR just sort 
beg for that to be applied in the K3 - KX3 design evolution.I'd also expect 
some lessens learned and improvements from the KX3 to migrate back into the K3 
within the next 4-6 months too...

Niel

On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:

 
 Bill,
 I did not mean to put any blame on you. In fact I am very grateful to you for 
 sharing with us your first hand impressions of this so much awaited radio.  I 
 am just genuinely interested if KX3 audio is the same or better then that of 
 K3. I hope, when KX3 is in production, Elecraft or some of the users will 
 measure in band IMD and come up with the figures. And I hope those figures 
 will exceed similar specs of K3.
  
 73, Igor UA9CDC
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Bill K9YEQ
 To: k...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: 'Elecraft'
 Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:00 AM
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT
 
  
 Igor,
 
 My hearing isn't perfect. Just ask my wife. I am using PC speakers, not
 headphones. My environment has fan noise... but to me they sound very
 similar, next to identical. I did not observe on a scope. YMMV.
 
 73,
 Bill
 K9YEQ
 KX3 Field Test #12
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Igor Sokolov
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:49 PM
 To: k...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: 'Elecraft'
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Bill K9YEQ
 I do not generally use Software to run my Elecraft radios other than 
 the macros. I work on PCs/software for a living, so I love the 
 options available with all the Elecraft radios. Like Greg, I have 
 mine sitting just above the pullout keyboard/Mouse tray in front of the 
 K3. I have a easy to reach antenna switch. I have listened to audio 
 coming from both units without any signal conditioning, filters, NB, 
 NR, etc. Hard to tell the two apart on the PC stereo speakers. That is
 very sweet.
 
 That is not quite what I was expecting. KX3 being SDR based should sound
 better then K3 because KX3 should lack in band IMD caused by non linearity
 of crystal filter. When I compare audio of my K3 with that of QS1R the
 difference is pretty noticeable. Well, sooner or later someone will measure
 in band IMD of KX3 and hopefully we will get objective data.
 
 73, Igor UA9CDC
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and Remoterig

2012-02-23 Thread N5QQ
Oh drats! Missed giving you guys some business at Elecraft. I just received
my RemoteRig K3-Twin Package about 3 weeks ago direct from Mikael in Sweden.
I am 95% connected and with one more trip to the remote site tonight maybe I
will have it all! Audio sounds great, just haven't got control of the radio
yet.
de N5QQ/Ron

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[Elecraft] K3 #1645

2012-02-23 Thread PHIL
Pictures are now available - if you need them, email me
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

2012-02-23 Thread Alan Bloom
Superhet versus direct-to-baseband:

In-band IMD is one issue.  Perhaps an even more important one is the
non-linear group delay caused by the crystal filters.  Unlike other
SDRs, the KX3 does have a roofing filter at baseband but I expect it
should have flatter group delay than a crystal filter.

For CW it wouldn't make any difference but I would expect SSB and AM to
sound better on the KX3.  (Spoken in ignorance since I don't have one.)

Alan


On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 13:57 -0700, Niel Skousen wrote:
 I would actually expect them to be very similar since the DSP backend
 (while not identical) should be very similar.   The SDR elements of
 the two are probably very close to the same.
 
 Wayne has shown a talent over the years of applying software object
 encapsulation and  reuse concepts in hardware design.   DSP and SDR
 just sort beg for that to be applied in the K3 - KX3 design evolution.
 I'd also expect some lessens learned and improvements from the KX3 to
 migrate back into the K3 within the next 4-6 months too...
 
 Niel
 
 On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
 
  
  Bill,
  I did not mean to put any blame on you. In fact I am very grateful to you 
  for sharing with us your first hand impressions of this so much awaited 
  radio.  I am just genuinely interested if KX3 audio is the same or better 
  then that of K3. I hope, when KX3 is in production, Elecraft or some of the 
  users will measure in band IMD and come up with the figures. And I hope 
  those figures will exceed similar specs of K3.
   
  73, Igor UA9CDC
   
  - Original Message -
  From: Bill K9YEQ
  To: k...@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: 'Elecraft'
  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:00 AM
  Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT
  
   
  Igor,
  
  My hearing isn't perfect. Just ask my wife. I am using PC speakers, not
  headphones. My environment has fan noise... but to me they sound very
  similar, next to identical. I did not observe on a scope. YMMV.
  
  73,
  Bill
  K9YEQ
  KX3 Field Test #12
  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Igor Sokolov
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:49 PM
  To: k...@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: 'Elecraft'
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Bill K9YEQ
  I do not generally use Software to run my Elecraft radios other than 
  the macros. I work on PCs/software for a living, so I love the 
  options available with all the Elecraft radios. Like Greg, I have 
  mine sitting just above the pullout keyboard/Mouse tray in front of the 
  K3. I have a easy to reach antenna switch. I have listened to audio 
  coming from both units without any signal conditioning, filters, NB, 
  NR, etc. Hard to tell the two apart on the PC stereo speakers. That is
  very sweet.
  
  That is not quite what I was expecting. KX3 being SDR based should sound
  better then K3 because KX3 should lack in band IMD caused by non linearity
  of crystal filter. When I compare audio of my K3 with that of QS1R the
  difference is pretty noticeable. Well, sooner or later someone will measure
  in band IMD of KX3 and hopefully we will get objective data.
  
  73, Igor UA9CDC
  
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[Elecraft] Manual

2012-02-23 Thread va3bxg
Is it possible, even if it is in beta, to get a copy of the Kx3 manual

As being a newbie, I need to study the various (right now over my head) aspects 
of the radio.

At least I can read it before I get the KX3 and thus be better prepared, rather 
then having to choice to read the manual vs playing with my toy, if they both 
arrive at the same time

Thanks
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[Elecraft] Please remove from list - thanks

2012-02-23 Thread Ferey Faridian

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[Elecraft] Fw: K3/0 and Remoterig

2012-02-23 Thread VE3GNO Daniel
Hi Eric
Great news! There is any chance to build an option for a build-in power supply 
for K3/0? I am thinking in the future to in sert remoterig client in K3 to have 
a single travel box, kind of ham internet tranceiver
73 
VE3GNO Daniel
 


 From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com
To: Jorge Diez - CX6VM cx6vm.jo...@gmail.com 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:46:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and Remoterig
  
I am finally getting this up on the web order form later today. (It took 
more time than expected to recover from the two ham shows back to back 
over the past two weeks.)

The K3/0 is $695.95
The Remoterig 1258MKII set is 499.95

We'll also have our cable sets up there for the various configurations.

73,

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On 2/23/2012 6:00 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
 Hello Eric,

 Something about K3/0 price and remoterig?

 Thanks,

 Jorge
 CX6VM/CW5W
 K3 #4077

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[Elecraft] Another great Elecraft story!

2012-02-23 Thread John Veach
I purchased and built my K3 sn #6226 a couple of weeks ago. Since that time I 
have added, one at a time, two more roofing filters in addition to the 2.7khz 
and one more that I got with the kit. Adding those two new filters a week or so 
apart apparently uncovered an issue with the latest version of the K3 utility 
program.  When I moved the 2.7khz filter, each time the software wouldn't let 
me 
select SSB TX for the filter in its new slot. The radio button for apply, never 
activated.  I had to go to the K3 and run config and change the SSB TX to the 
correct filter.  

I wrote an email to Elecraft K3 support to describe what I thought was either a 
software issue or a brain dump on my part. 

Gary forwarded my issue to Dick who I believe wrote the software for the K3 
utility.  After a number of emails back and forth, Dick asked me to forward my 
config file to him.  I did so this morning and just got an email from him that 
he had uncovered the problem and fixed that particular line of code.  He sent a 
new version of the K3 utility.
Do you suppose that this would have happened in a few days with any if the IKY 
rigs?  Doubtful. Probably not with our other American companies either but with 
Elecraft, a few emails, and the issue was resolved in roughly 24 hours.  Kudos 
again to a great service company, never mind their superb gear!

John KE4D
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

2012-02-23 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Igor, 

 

No offense taken.  The audio is very good as far as I am concerned.  

 

Then, I hope the KX3 doesn't exceed the K3performance as the cost difference
and electronic construction are very different.  J

 

73,

Bill

K9YEQ

KX3 Field Test #12

 

From: k...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:k...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Igor
Sokolov
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:16 PM
To: k...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

 

  

Bill, 

I did not mean to put any blame on you. In fact I am very grateful to you
for sharing with us your first hand impressions of this so much awaited
radio.  I am just genuinely interested if KX3 audio is the same or better
then that of K3. I hope, when KX3 is in production, Elecraft or some of the
users will measure in band IMD and come up with the figures. And I hope
those figures will exceed similar specs of K3.

 

73, Igor UA9CDC

 

- Original Message - 

From: Bill K9YEQ mailto:k9...@live.com  

To: k...@yahoogroups.com 

Cc: 'Elecraft' mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net  

Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:00 AM

Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 update FT

 

  

Igor,

My hearing isn't perfect. Just ask my wife. I am using PC speakers, not
headphones. My environment has fan noise... but to me they sound very
similar, next to identical. I did not observe on a scope. YMMV.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ
KX3 Field Test #12
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Igor Sokolov
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:49 PM
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From: Bill K9YEQ
I do not generally use Software to run my Elecraft radios other than 
the macros. I work on PCs/software for a living, so I love the 
options available with all the Elecraft radios. Like Greg, I have 
mine sitting just above the pullout keyboard/Mouse tray in front of the 
K3. I have a easy to reach antenna switch. I have listened to audio 
coming from both units without any signal conditioning, filters, NB, 
NR, etc. Hard to tell the two apart on the PC stereo speakers. That is
very sweet.

That is not quite what I was expecting. KX3 being SDR based should sound
better then K3 because KX3 should lack in band IMD caused by non linearity
of crystal filter. When I compare audio of my K3 with that of QS1R the
difference is pretty noticeable. Well, sooner or later someone will measure
in band IMD of KX3 and hopefully we will get objective data.

73, Igor UA9CDC

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[Elecraft] K1 Kit

2012-02-23 Thread Phil Hystad
My summer project will likely be the K1 -- yet another fine Elecraft product to 
add to my QRP collection.  I hope to have a full 100 watts in QRP power someday.

Question:  I am not sure about the noise blanker option on the K1.  I never use 
the NB on any other rig except for the Icom 706 in my truck and there it does a 
good job.  I will not be using the K1 in the truck (or any vehicle) and I do 
not have a lot of spiky noise around here.

So, is there any other reason why the NB on the K1 would be useful?

73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Kit

2012-02-23 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Phil,

If you have a lack of noise at the intended operating location,  
there's no reason to get the KNB1.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 My summer project will likely be the K1 -- yet another fine Elecraft  
 product to add to my QRP collection.  I hope to have a full 100  
 watts in QRP power someday.

 Question:  I am not sure about the noise blanker option on the K1.   
 I never use the NB on any other rig except for the Icom 706 in my  
 truck and there it does a good job.  I will not be using the K1 in  
 the truck (or any vehicle) and I do not have a lot of spiky noise  
 around here.

 So, is there any other reason why the NB on the K1 would be useful?

 73, phil, K7PEH
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[Elecraft] K2 audio issue on CW T/R transition

2012-02-23 Thread William Eric McFadden
My K2 has recently begun making a slight bit of a chirp-noise in my
headphones on the T/R transition when I do CW. Not a chirp in the classic
CW sense of the word, when the other guy hears it, but a little bit of a
tone in my own headphones.

My K2 is a 10-watt rev A unit, firmware revision 2.04P 1.09 with KSB2,
K160RX, KAT2, and KNB2 options. The only thing I've done to the rig
recently is to replace the AF and RF gain pots and I didn't notice this
chirp phenomenon until sometime after I replaced the pots. This K2 does
not have the alternate AF mod installed.

I've noticed this phenomemon in 80m CW, and I key with a manual key. I've
heard it with crystal filter settings of 700 and 400Hz. It doesn't seem to
matter if I have AGC set to fast or slow. I do tend to have the RIT
engaged--my QSO-buddy's old OMNI D has a bit of drift.

Any suggestions? Did I break something when I replaced the pots?

Tnx es 73,
http://home.frognet.net/~mcfadden/wd8rif/radio.htm

Eric, WD8RIF


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[Elecraft] K3-Remote(K3/0 and Remoterig + cable sets) is now on the Elecraft Order Form

2012-02-23 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The K3-Remote items are now on the Elecraft order form. (K3/0, RemoteRig 
1258MKII SET and  the matching cable sets.)

See: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3remote

You can use either a K3/0 or a regular K3 to control the remote K3 over 
you local network or the internet.

More details on the web page tomorrow after we wake up :-)

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 audio issue on CW T/R transition

2012-02-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Eric,

I really cannot associate any change in sidetone pitch (chirp) with 
the change of RF and AF gain pots, but I would strongly recommend that 
you add the sidetone pitch (10k series resistor and 82 mHy shielded 
inductor) changes to your Rev A K2 to give a better sidetone pitch.  In 
fact, I would recommend all the K2 A to B mods including a crystal 
change if your K2 SN is less than 2560.

The Alternate AF Gain Wiring Mod will not alter the chirp behavior, 
but it will preserve your AF Gain control for the future.  The mod 
removes the DC current flow through the AF Gain control and will prolong 
its life.

Actually, I would recommend that you install all the A to B mods 
(including the optional ones) on your K2.  While not mandatory, you will 
notice a difference in your K2 performance - it is well worth the effort 
- include the Thermistor upgrade and the K2 Keying Waveshape Mod to make 
things complete.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/23/2012 9:35 PM, William Eric McFadden wrote:
 My K2 has recently begun making a slight bit of a chirp-noise in my
 headphones on the T/R transition when I do CW. Not a chirp in the classic
 CW sense of the word, when the other guy hears it, but a little bit of a
 tone in my own headphones.

 My K2 is a 10-watt rev A unit, firmware revision 2.04P 1.09 with KSB2,
 K160RX, KAT2, and KNB2 options. The only thing I've done to the rig
 recently is to replace the AF and RF gain pots and I didn't notice this
 chirp phenomenon until sometime after I replaced the pots. This K2 does
 not have the alternate AF mod installed.

 I've noticed this phenomemon in 80m CW, and I key with a manual key. I've
 heard it with crystal filter settings of 700 and 400Hz. It doesn't seem to
 matter if I have AGC set to fast or slow. I do tend to have the RIT
 engaged--my QSO-buddy's old OMNI D has a bit of drift.

 Any suggestions? Did I break something when I replaced the pots?

 Tnx es 73,
 http://home.frognet.net/~mcfadden/wd8rif/radio.htm

 Eric, WD8RIF


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Kit

2012-02-23 Thread Phil Hystad
Wayne,

Thanks.  I was sort of thinking that but I learned to appreciate how much 
power you guys seem to pack into the smallest little features so I didn't 
know if maybe the KNB1 also might have provided some other useful function 
besides a noise blanker.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

 Hi Phil,
 
 If you have a lack of noise at the intended operating location, there's no 
 reason to get the KNB1.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 
 My summer project will likely be the K1 -- yet another fine Elecraft product 
 to add to my QRP collection.  I hope to have a full 100 watts in QRP power 
 someday.
 
 Question:  I am not sure about the noise blanker option on the K1.  I never 
 use the NB on any other rig except for the Icom 706 in my truck and there it 
 does a good job.  I will not be using the K1 in the truck (or any vehicle) 
 and I do not have a lot of spiky noise around here.
 
 So, is there any other reason why the NB on the K1 would be useful?
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-Remote(K3/0 and Remoterig + cable sets) is now on the Elecraft Order Form

2012-02-23 Thread Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
Eric,
A question please...
Can the K3/0 run a K3 without the remoterig units?
IE: Over a serial connection between the 2 K3's?

My appologies if this question has been asked before.

Jeff Cochrane VK4XA (ex VK4BOF)

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From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:05 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-Remote(K3/0 and Remoterig + cable sets) is now on the 
Elecraft Order Form


 The K3-Remote items are now on the Elecraft order form. (K3/0, RemoteRig
 1258MKII SET and  the matching cable sets.)

 See: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3remote

 You can use either a K3/0 or a regular K3 to control the remote K3 over
 you local network or the internet.

 More details on the web page tomorrow after we wake up :-)

 73,

 Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-Remote(K3/0 and Remoterig + cable sets) is now on the Elecraft Order Form

2012-02-23 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Yes. Just use a null modem cable and mic and audio cables between the K3/0 and 
K3. We have tested this configuration here.

Eric

www.elecraft.com
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On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF 
vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Eric,
 A question please...
 Can the K3/0 run a K3 without the remoterig units?
 IE: Over a serial connection between the 2 K3's?
 
 My appologies if this question has been asked before.
 
 Jeff Cochrane VK4XA (ex VK4BOF)
 
 - Original Message - From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
 e...@elecraft.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:05 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3-Remote(K3/0 and Remoterig + cable sets) is now on the 
 Elecraft Order Form
 
 
 The K3-Remote items are now on the Elecraft order form. (K3/0, RemoteRig
 1258MKII SET and  the matching cable sets.)
 
 See: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3remote
 
 You can use either a K3/0 or a regular K3 to control the remote K3 over
 you local network or the internet.
 
 More details on the web page tomorrow after we wake up :-)
 
 73,
 
 Eric
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[Elecraft] Remote Rig without local K3 ?

2012-02-23 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
I am considering a second K3 and wondering if I can use the Remoterig system 
with a computer and HRD/DM780 but without the K3 or K3-0 on the local end 
until I can afford the second K3 or do I need to wait until I can get the 
second radio?

Will it do digital as well or is there timing or something from the local 
rig required for the digital operation?

Thanks es 73, de Jim KG0KP 


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[Elecraft] K3-0 to K3 Upgrade Kit ???

2012-02-23 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Seems like I remember this being asked but did not catch the answer.

Can the K3-0 be upgraded/converted to the K3?  
In the future?

Thanks es 73, de Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 audio issue on CW T/R transition

2012-02-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I have K2 #1239.  I did all the A to B mods, and the rest of them, and
added the DSP.  Made a huge difference by my reckoning.  I did them all at
once.  Gl  73, Guy.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Eric,

 I really cannot associate any change in sidetone pitch (chirp) with
 the change of RF and AF gain pots, but I would strongly recommend that
 you add the sidetone pitch (10k series resistor and 82 mHy shielded
 inductor) changes to your Rev A K2 to give a better sidetone pitch.  In
 fact, I would recommend all the K2 A to B mods including a crystal
 change if your K2 SN is less than 2560.

 The Alternate AF Gain Wiring Mod will not alter the chirp behavior,
 but it will preserve your AF Gain control for the future.  The mod
 removes the DC current flow through the AF Gain control and will prolong
 its life.

 Actually, I would recommend that you install all the A to B mods
 (including the optional ones) on your K2.  While not mandatory, you will
 notice a difference in your K2 performance - it is well worth the effort
 - include the Thermistor upgrade and the K2 Keying Waveshape Mod to make
 things complete.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 2/23/2012 9:35 PM, William Eric McFadden wrote:
  My K2 has recently begun making a slight bit of a chirp-noise in my
  headphones on the T/R transition when I do CW. Not a chirp in the classic
  CW sense of the word, when the other guy hears it, but a little bit of a
  tone in my own headphones.
 
  My K2 is a 10-watt rev A unit, firmware revision 2.04P 1.09 with KSB2,
  K160RX, KAT2, and KNB2 options. The only thing I've done to the rig
  recently is to replace the AF and RF gain pots and I didn't notice this
  chirp phenomenon until sometime after I replaced the pots. This K2 does
  not have the alternate AF mod installed.
 
  I've noticed this phenomemon in 80m CW, and I key with a manual key. I've
  heard it with crystal filter settings of 700 and 400Hz. It doesn't seem
 to
  matter if I have AGC set to fast or slow. I do tend to have the RIT
  engaged--my QSO-buddy's old OMNI D has a bit of drift.
 
  Any suggestions? Did I break something when I replaced the pots?
 
  Tnx es 73,
  http://home.frognet.net/~mcfadden/wd8rif/radio.htm
 
  Eric, WD8RIF
 
 
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