[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (8/12/12)

2012-08-12 Thread Phillip Shepard
We had a good net today with decent propagation.  We had 34
participants over a 30 minute period. No significant
discussions.  Have a great week.

Here is the list of participants.

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

WB6CLZ  MikeCA  KX3 118
W4RKS   Jim AL  K3  3618
KF5IMA  Bruce   MS  K2  3575
KE5GBC  MikeTX  K3  5047
WW4JF   JohnVA  K3  6185
AD5SX   PaulNM  K3  4645
KM4IK   Ian GA  K3  281
K4GCJ   Gerry   NC  K3  1597
KE5VDT  Roger   TX  K3  6054
NR4CBillVA  K3  4536
W0MNA   GaryKS  KX3 465
N8SBE   DaveMI  K3  3104
K0AZMikeMO  K2  7211
W0FMTerry   MO  K3  474
NZ0TBillMO  K3  1502
AI4WPat KY  KX3 48
N1JEO   JoelCT  KX3 651
W5TTF   Charlie TX  K3  4016
W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
W7LRY   Larry   CO  K3  6347
K4QETonyNC  K3  6478
KA0NCR  Arnie   NE  K3  185
KB0YH   Gus CO  KX3 455
KL7UW   Ed  AK  K3  4340
AA6FJim CA  K3  1259
KE3CKen PA  KX3 253
K0DTJ   Brian   CA  K3  4113
W5ETJ   GaryTX  K3  3227
NA6ZDon CA  K3  5495
KB3FBR  Joe PA  K2  6178QRP
K4CCH   Charlie GA  K3  3109
KE5MO   Larry   TX  K3  4499
KD2BD   JohnNJ  K2  3563
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

73,

Phil, NS7P
ph...@riousa.com

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

2012-08-12 Thread Adrian
Sorry, yes of course the cwt decode works when the freq is displayed & tap
changes to multimode tech displ etc.

I messed up on my recall there sorry.

I do not have an issue though, all decode shows, and I use 4.48 firmware.

The 4.51 ver does not give me anything I need.

Adrian ... vk4tux

-Original Message-
From: Bill Conkling [mailto:n...@widomaker.com] 
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012 1:32 PM
To: 'Adrian'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

Yeah, but that takes away the decoding as well, brings up other stuff...

...bc nr4c

-Original Message-
From: Adrian [mailto:vk4...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:14 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

Tap the display button.

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012 11:27 AM
To: Phil Townsend; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

Thanks for bringing this up.  I was afraid I was the only one who wanted
this option.

...bill nr4c 

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-Original message-
From: Phil Townsend 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net Reflector" 
Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 18:22:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

The CW decode displays it's output to the VFO B window. But most of the time
that window is displaying the VFO 'B' frequency.
Question is How do I remove the VFO 'B' frequency info and display ONLY the
CW decoded info?

Phil
Santa Fe
Thanks
Listening for SOTA on 14.061
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

2012-08-12 Thread Bill Conkling
Yeah, but that takes away the decoding as well, brings up other stuff...

...bc nr4c

-Original Message-
From: Adrian [mailto:vk4...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:14 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

Tap the display button.

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012 11:27 AM
To: Phil Townsend; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

Thanks for bringing this up.  I was afraid I was the only one who wanted
this option.

...bill nr4c 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid

-Original message-
From: Phil Townsend 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net Reflector" 
Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 18:22:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

The CW decode displays it's output to the VFO B window. But most of the time
that window is displaying the VFO 'B' frequency.
Question is How do I remove the VFO 'B' frequency info and display ONLY the
CW decoded info?

Phil
Santa Fe
Thanks
Listening for SOTA on 14.061
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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
In the interest of keeping list volume under control (and improving SNR) 
let's end this thread at this time.

For those interested, there is a lot of prior discussion of this topic 
in the searchable list archives at:
http://www.elecraft.com/elist.html

73,
Eric
Elecraft List Moderator

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On 8/12/2012 7:14 PM, Bob wrote:
> Hi Randy,
>
>  Sounds suspiciously like the 9TO Mark II which appeared in 
> the
> June 1967
> issue of QST, was called "Dot Insertion"   It was my 1st keyer and I still 
> have
> it!

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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Bob
Hi Randy,

Sounds suspiciously like the 9TO Mark II which appeared in the 
June 1967
issue of QST, was called "Dot Insertion"   It was my 1st keyer and I still have 
it!!

You can get the article on line at the ARRL if you want to 
check 
it out.  I think
it is an Ultimatic type but relieves some of the timing issue with "slapping" 
in 
dots.

 Also helped keep the shack warm in the winter, had 4 or 5 
12AU7"s and 2
regulator tubes  (hollow state zeners).

73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR
On 8/12/2012 9:25 PM, Randy Farmer wrote:
> On an even more obscure note, in the summer of 1965 or 1966 (can't
> remember which) as a recently-minted Conditional class licensee I was
> spending a lot of time on 40 meter CW during the day. High school was
> out for the summer and I was busy building electronic keyers and
> learning to use them.
>
> I ran across a W4, down in Alabama I think, who was a regular 40 QRQ
> guy. He had developed what he called the "Squeeze Keyer". It used a
> bunch of 12AU7s and had a similar philosophy to the Ultimatic. His
> version used what he called "single dot injection" and closing the dot
> paddle while the dash paddle was held closed would inject a single dot
> in the stream of dashes. Other than for this condition, the dash paddle
> always had priority over the dot paddle. Using this technique, any
> letter in the alphabet except X could be generated with a single
> properly timed squeeze of the paddles. He wouldn't publish the design,
> so when he went SK it presumably died with him. Sometime in the early
> '70s I designed and built a keyer that did the same thing using 74xx TTL
> chips. It worked great, but I was about the only one who could send on
> it. Does anybody else remember the "Squeeze Keyer"?
>
> 73...
> Randy, W8FN
>
> On 08/12/2012 17:00, Erik Basilier wrote:
>> Ron, thanks for your comments, and I recognize that there must be a sizable
>> minority of operators that are fully competent with iambic. And, when iambic
>> is mastered it can probably produce faster code than either a single paddle
>> or a double paddle used by a non-iambic operator. What I don't believe is
>> that if you put a dual paddle with iambic logic in the hands of an
>> established operator, he will gradually slip into making use of the iambic
>> features. Yet, that seems to be the assumption of manufacturers. I can think
>> of 3 dual paddles available from Elecraft, but no single paddle option. Two
>> of the Elecraft paddles are for portable rigs. My experience with portable
>> operation is that the sitting position is usually uncomfortable, the hands
>> may be cold and shaking (due to cold or exertion), and motor skills are way
>> below the level at the shack. In such a situation, my mistakes with a dual
>> paddle go way up, and either Ultimatic or a single paddle would help a lot.
>> Before my KX1 I used a single lever made from flexing PC board with my
>> portable radios. It didn't go fast, but was very reliable after I soldered
>> little pieces of sterling silver to the contact points. Somehow I am
>> guessing that the tendency of manufacturers toward dual paddles and
>> complicated keying logic has something to do with the desire to appear to
>> deliver the most for the money. Beginners may be swayed by that. Some
>> manufacturers seem to really promote "more is more" as in pounds of radio
>> and number of knobs. Others, particularly when selling qrp rigs may promote
>> "less is more". For the thinking ham, neither slogan makes sense. Elecraft
>> provides lots features where more certainly is more, but saves us from
>> backbreaking radio weights and impractical numbers of controls. When it
>> comes to keying, the "more is more" seems to have won out without real
>> justification.
>>
>> BTW many years ago like you I built a keyer from discrete CMOS (published in
>> 73 mag). I don't remember what the keying logic was, but since dual paddles
>> were used, I am guessing that the whole project was motivated by the new
>> iambic ideas. I never learnt to use it at all (let alone the iambic
>> features) until I reversed the paddles to get the dits on the thumb. I can
>> relate to the pleasure of learning a physical skill like that (used to play
>> classical guitar), but feel that the movements with iambic are just too
>> small and delicate. Maybe I just need to set bigger spacing an use more
>> forceful movements to feel what is going on, but I seem to have a preference
>> for very small contact spacings. Interesting to hear about your need for
>> time to adjust between different sets of muscle memories. I experience
>> something similar in copying morse. I can copy quite fast, but it takes a
>> few moments to "load the decoder into my brain". One time I was filling up
>> at a gas station and another customer saw my mobile antenna and asked what I
>> was doing. When I said I was a ham, he started voicing "di-dah's" at me and
>> I couldn't copy at all.

[Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

2012-08-12 Thread Adrian
Tap the display button.

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012 11:27 AM
To: Phil Townsend; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

Thanks for bringing this up.  I was afraid I was the only one who wanted
this option.

...bill nr4c 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid

-Original message-
From: Phil Townsend 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net Reflector" 
Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 18:22:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

The CW decode displays it's output to the VFO B window. But most of the time
that window is displaying the VFO 'B' frequency.
Question is How do I remove the VFO 'B' frequency info and display ONLY the
CW decoded info?

Phil
Santa Fe
Thanks
Listening for SOTA on 14.061
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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley

On Aug 12, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Randy Farmer  wrote:

>  Does anybody else remember the "Squeeze Keyer"?

Yep!  Basically, a POO Keyer with single dot insertion. 

Bud, W2RU
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sidetone feature request

2012-08-12 Thread Dale Boresz
Hello Michael,

Good suggestion. I hadn't thought of that because I never use the filter 
shift function since it is disabled when QRQ is engaged. But since QRQ 
is disabled anyway for split operation, the shift should work fine. I'll 
give it a shot!

Thanks!

73, Dale
WA8SRA


On 8/12/2012 3:50 PM, N6MQL wrote:
> Drew, although I don't see a way for you to accomplish what you're asking, 
> being able to move the pitch Freq. while still monitoring the signal.  I can 
> see a way for Dale to do what he is trying to accomplish.
> Dale, have you considered setting your pitch to say 500hz (for example), and 
> then sliding your IF shift off freq. center by perhaps a few Hz (50 or so) 
> and then centering your DX station in the middle of that modified IF center.  
> This would change the sound of his tone to 450Hz for example (or 550Hz 
> depending on which way you move the IF Shift). At the same time, this would 
> keep him right in the center of your IF Width filter. Yet Your pitch for 
> transmit would still remain at 500 Hz. This would give you a nice difference 
> between your TX and receive Tones.  In order to TX on his Zero beat freq. you 
> may would have to do a SPLIT operation and then TX on the original freq where 
> he is zero beat without the offset.  Here's an example below:
>
> DX Zero beat = 14.050.000
> Pitch = 500Hz
> IF Shift = +50Hz (.55 on the Shift display)
> VFO A Read out = 14.050.050 (DX now sounds 50HZ higher than your Pitch Freq 
> but still remains ZERO Beat)
> TX Split Freq  = 14.050.000
>
> Hope this works out for you.  Best 73,
>
> Michael
> N6MQL
>
>
>
> While trying to work D64K the other night on 20m CW with the filters
>> tightened down to about 100Hz around D64K (to filter out the typical
>> tuner-uppers, 'up'-cops, and stations calling on or nearly on
>> frequency)  I wished that there was a way to offset the sidetone
>> frequency just a bit so that it wasn't the same as the filter center
>> frequency.  This issue is that when operating fast QSK where the DX
>> station is tightly centered in the filter bandpass, my own sidetone gets
>> in the way of being able to hear the DX station since the frequency is
>> the same. If the sidetone could be offset 50 to 100 Hz above or below
>> the filter center frequency, this masking would no longer occur.
>>
>> Any chance that this capability already exists and I just haven't
>> discovered it yet?
>>
>> 73, Dale
>> WA8SRA
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

2012-08-12 Thread Bill Conkling
Thanks for bringing this up.  I was afraid I was the only one who wanted  
this option.

...bill nr4c 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid

-Original message-
From: Phil Townsend 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net Reflector" 
Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 18:22:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

The CW decode displays it's output to the VFO B window. But most of the time  
that window is displaying the VFO 'B' frequency.
Question is How do I remove the VFO 'B' frequency info and display ONLY the  
CW decoded info?

Phil
Santa Fe
Thanks
Listening for SOTA on 14.061
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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Randy Farmer
On an even more obscure note, in the summer of 1965 or 1966 (can't 
remember which) as a recently-minted Conditional class licensee I was 
spending a lot of time on 40 meter CW during the day. High school was 
out for the summer and I was busy building electronic keyers and 
learning to use them.

I ran across a W4, down in Alabama I think, who was a regular 40 QRQ 
guy. He had developed what he called the "Squeeze Keyer". It used a 
bunch of 12AU7s and had a similar philosophy to the Ultimatic. His 
version used what he called "single dot injection" and closing the dot 
paddle while the dash paddle was held closed would inject a single dot 
in the stream of dashes. Other than for this condition, the dash paddle 
always had priority over the dot paddle. Using this technique, any 
letter in the alphabet except X could be generated with a single 
properly timed squeeze of the paddles. He wouldn't publish the design, 
so when he went SK it presumably died with him. Sometime in the early 
'70s I designed and built a keyer that did the same thing using 74xx TTL 
chips. It worked great, but I was about the only one who could send on 
it. Does anybody else remember the "Squeeze Keyer"?

73...
Randy, W8FN

On 08/12/2012 17:00, Erik Basilier wrote:
> Ron, thanks for your comments, and I recognize that there must be a sizable
> minority of operators that are fully competent with iambic. And, when iambic
> is mastered it can probably produce faster code than either a single paddle
> or a double paddle used by a non-iambic operator. What I don't believe is
> that if you put a dual paddle with iambic logic in the hands of an
> established operator, he will gradually slip into making use of the iambic
> features. Yet, that seems to be the assumption of manufacturers. I can think
> of 3 dual paddles available from Elecraft, but no single paddle option. Two
> of the Elecraft paddles are for portable rigs. My experience with portable
> operation is that the sitting position is usually uncomfortable, the hands
> may be cold and shaking (due to cold or exertion), and motor skills are way
> below the level at the shack. In such a situation, my mistakes with a dual
> paddle go way up, and either Ultimatic or a single paddle would help a lot.
> Before my KX1 I used a single lever made from flexing PC board with my
> portable radios. It didn't go fast, but was very reliable after I soldered
> little pieces of sterling silver to the contact points. Somehow I am
> guessing that the tendency of manufacturers toward dual paddles and
> complicated keying logic has something to do with the desire to appear to
> deliver the most for the money. Beginners may be swayed by that. Some
> manufacturers seem to really promote "more is more" as in pounds of radio
> and number of knobs. Others, particularly when selling qrp rigs may promote
> "less is more". For the thinking ham, neither slogan makes sense. Elecraft
> provides lots features where more certainly is more, but saves us from
> backbreaking radio weights and impractical numbers of controls. When it
> comes to keying, the "more is more" seems to have won out without real
> justification.
>
> BTW many years ago like you I built a keyer from discrete CMOS (published in
> 73 mag). I don't remember what the keying logic was, but since dual paddles
> were used, I am guessing that the whole project was motivated by the new
> iambic ideas. I never learnt to use it at all (let alone the iambic
> features) until I reversed the paddles to get the dits on the thumb. I can
> relate to the pleasure of learning a physical skill like that (used to play
> classical guitar), but feel that the movements with iambic are just too
> small and delicate. Maybe I just need to set bigger spacing an use more
> forceful movements to feel what is going on, but I seem to have a preference
> for very small contact spacings. Interesting to hear about your need for
> time to adjust between different sets of muscle memories. I experience
> something similar in copying morse. I can copy quite fast, but it takes a
> few moments to "load the decoder into my brain". One time I was filling up
> at a gas station and another customer saw my mobile antenna and asked what I
> was doing. When I said I was a ham, he started voicing "di-dah's" at me and
> I couldn't copy at all. In addition to the general boot-up time, I just
> wasn't programmed for that.
>
>   
>
> 73,
>
> Erik K7TV
>
> 
>
> To answer your question, after 20 years of using a straight key and bug, I
> built a discrete-component CMOS iambic keyer in the 1970's.
>
>   
>
> I did start out slow but speed came quickly, IIRC, as my fingers learned the
> correct pattern of movements for each character. But I had to do the same
> thing when I learned to use a bug in the 1950's. Knowing Morse doesn't mean
> one's body knows how to operate a particular key to generate it. That takes
> practice.
>
>   
>
> I was pleasantly surprised to fin

Re: [Elecraft] Wanted: Someone Using ACLog 3.2 With a K2

2012-08-12 Thread David Gilbert

It's likely that N3FJP said that, but unlikely that it's true. Don't 
take my word for it ... check around and you'll find that to be his 
typical response to most reported problems with his software.

Dave   AB7E



On 8/12/2012 4:52 PM, Jim Campbell wrote:


Scott says that he hasn't had any other K2 owners complain of this.

Thanks and 73,

Jim - W4BQP


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[Elecraft] Wanted: 4-band K1 module

2012-08-12 Thread Len Chesler
I am hoping to find a four band module for my K1.  If anyone has one, built or 
unbuilt, I would like to hear from you.
Tnx.  Len, K6LEN


 

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[Elecraft] Devices for upcoming KX3 PA

2012-08-12 Thread Stephen Rector
I've got a KX3 on order, with the idea of replacing my K2-100 as the primary 
radio at home. So, the PA is something I'll be watching for.

I wonder what Wayne and others think about using push-pull mosfet finals as 
opposed to the BJT used in the K2-100 PA. Mosfets are almost universally used 
in PA designs with Vcc > 24V, and have become common at 12V. I haven't recently 
designed a PA, but I assume there is some advantage in 3rd-order IM with 
devices that are roughly square-law, although this may be offset by greater 
difficulty in the match to the device. I assume the KX3 PA will have 12V Vcc.

Steve NU7B
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread David Gilbert

Whether you see it or not it will still be there and will have cost you 
money to have it.  I was only trying to keep the discussion on the cost 
of the TenTec amp versus the KXPA3 from being apples versus oranges.

Dave   AB7E



On 8/12/2012 4:36 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> I suspect the SWR/Power meter and LCD display for the KXPA3 will 
> appear on the K3 display.
>
> It works that way with the K2 having the KPA100/KAT100 mounted 
> remotely in an EC2 enclosure - I expect nothing less from the KX3 and 
> KAPA3.]
>
> For use with transceivers other than the KX3, the KXPA3 may have its 
> own display, but I will not be able to see that when it is mounted in 
> the trunk of my Mazda.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 8/12/2012 7:28 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
>> You forgot the SWR/power meter and LCD display ...
>>
>> Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/2012 3:07 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>>> $785 on the face of it looks high.  The K3 internal 100w amp costs
>>> $500 installed and $450 as a kit.  But is it not a stand-alone unit
>>> so missing chassis and connectors and other items.
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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Fred Jensen
On 8/12/2012 3:44 PM, Bill K9YEQ wrote:

> In 1971 in Germany in the Army Signal Corps, we convinced our COL to upgrade
> us to a 90 WPM RTTY machine so we wouldn't get stalled by the sluggish
> nature of the 60WPM.  To this day, I wonder how I typed that fast as I sure
> suck today!  Noisy is was!!!

Copying CW direct to TTY tape was hugely easy for that reason.  As long 
as he wasn't sending at 60 WPM [like I have ever been able to make 
record copy at that speed :-)], you just pressed the keys, with a lot of 
travel, and it went from ears to fingers with no intermediate stops.

It was much the same on the Underwood open-frame mills -- long key 
travel, you really knew you were pressing the key, and it became 
something of a finger dance.  Today's computer keyboards are much harder 
for me for record copy, I don't really get the physical sense of 
pressing the keys, and I tend to wear them out ... pounding far more 
than I need to.  My laptop is the worst.

Regarding Ultimatic, I've tried it, never practiced, basically didn't 
like it all that much.  My K3 and Winkey USB are both iambic, too old, 
don't use it.  But, to each his own.  The K3 keyer is all firmware, 
ultimatic could probably be added as an option if enough address space 
is available.  Time is probably the big issue for Wayne/Eric and 
Company, no one could wait quietly for the K3, then KPA500, KX3, and now 
KAT500, I'll bet their engineering agendas are very full.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org



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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread John KLim
Hi all

Is this the TEN-TEC reflector?

Enough on this topic PLEASE, PLEASE.  

Will someone create a new group just for this new amp?
 
73 ES CUL  DE  N3KHK
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[Elecraft] Wanted: Someone Using ACLog 3.2 With a K2

2012-08-12 Thread Jim Campbell
Scott, N3FJP, is trying out some new software and I had problems with it 
when interfacing with my K2 #2268. I was able to replicate the problem 
using Scott's ACLog 3.2. If there is someone out there who is using 
ACLog 3.2 with their K2 and who wouldn't mind running a simple test 
please contact me. I will give you a step-by-step procedure to try.

Scott says that he hasn't had any other K2 owners complain of this.

Thanks and 73,

Jim - W4BQP

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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
I suspect the SWR/Power meter and LCD display for the KXPA3 will appear 
on the K3 display.

It works that way with the K2 having the KPA100/KAT100 mounted remotely 
in an EC2 enclosure - I expect nothing less from the KX3 and KAPA3.]

For use with transceivers other than the KX3, the KXPA3 may have its own 
display, but I will not be able to see that when it is mounted in the 
trunk of my Mazda.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/12/2012 7:28 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
> You forgot the SWR/power meter and LCD display ...
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
> On 8/12/2012 3:07 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>> $785 on the face of it looks high.  The K3 internal 100w amp costs
>> $500 installed and $450 as a kit.  But is it not a stand-alone unit
>> so missing chassis and connectors and other items.
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread David Gilbert

You forgot the SWR/power meter and LCD display ...

Dave   AB7E


On 8/12/2012 3:07 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> $785 on the face of it looks high.  The K3 internal 100w amp costs
> $500 installed and $450 as a kit.  But is it not a stand-alone unit
> so missing chassis and connectors and other items.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

2012-08-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Max, there are two distinct groups of "Quick Memories"  The first is the 
00 to 10 memories that you can use from the 0 thru 9 keypad if CONFIG: 
MEM 0-9 menu parameter is set to BAND SEL.  That is the one I use for 
bandswitching.
The M1 thru M4 Quick Memories are "per band" and once inside a 
particular band can recall 4 frequencies (along with modes, and other 
settings) for 4 different spots in a band.

If you count memories, the K3 has a "bunch" - 100 memories of which the 
first 10 can be "quick memories for band/mode selection.  Once on any 
given band there are the 4 M1 thru M4 memories and given 11 bands, that 
is 44 more memories - 144 memories in total.

I set my 60 meter memories to do channel hopping by placing the "*" 
character in the memory name - I do not have a Quick Memory for 60 
meters - when I hold the M>V button, it is normal for those memory slots 
to be displayed (it will show the last used memory), and if that is what 
I want, I just tap M>V again - otherwise I tap the keypad to switch to 
the other 9 bands.  Which band is associated with which number is your 
choice,  I have chosen for 80m, 40m, and 30m to be the 1, 2, 3, bands, 
and 20, 15, and 10m to be the 4, 5, and 6 buttons,
the 7, 8, and 9 buttons are set for 17, 12, and 6 meters while the "0" 
button is 160 meters.  That scheme gives me all bands along with channel 
hopping for 60 meters.

You may choose which band corresponds with which number on your K3 
numeric keypad - there are no rules other than your own

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/12/2012 6:44 PM, M. George wrote:
> Gentlemen, thanks for the details on the quick memories and several
> suggestions on how to do this.  I will spend some time reading up on the
> quick memories.  The key was that they are obviously are set per band.  I'm
> sure I can come up with a good work around now.
>
> If there is still some room left in the K3 firmware address space... I sure
> wouldn't complain if this was added in a future update... hint, hint,
> nudge, nudge... ;)
>
> Thanks again for the responses everyone.  de NG7M Max
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[Elecraft] KX3 SSB Quality

2012-08-12 Thread Bill K9YEQ
I just worked another regular local on 75 meters.  I dropped power to 0.5
watts which was just above his noise level. He could hear me.  Then I went
up at several power stops. 1.0, 5.0 and 10.0 and all with good reports.  Not
one comment versus my K3 with a GOLD LINE Heil mic at 1.5 KW on the audio.
This speaks so well of the mic on the KX3.  What a wonderful portable radio.

 

73,

Bill

K9YEQ

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Ron,

In 1971 in Germany in the Army Signal Corps, we convinced our COL to upgrade
us to a 90 WPM RTTY machine so we wouldn't get stalled by the sluggish
nature of the 60WPM.  To this day, I wonder how I typed that fast as I sure
suck today!  Noisy is was!!!

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 5:02 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

I learned to type that way in High School too but what really taught me to
keep a steady pace was pounding away on an old Model 15 RTTY keyboard in the
Army. As each key was pressed the keyboard locked while the mechanical
encoder cycled before another key could be pressed. Fortunately it was
pretty noisy so one learned to hear the mechanism cycle and knew just when
the next key could be pressed. Tapping one foot worked well too :-)

99.99% of my operating is CW rag chewing. We may be a diminishing "breed",
but there are still plenty of us out there to provide some really nice hours
on the bands. 

That got me nostalgic for the old Model 15 "rattle" so I looked and, sure
'nough, someone has one running on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWa6u5_Itvs

The trick is to keep that rhythm for maximum inputting speed on the
keyboard. 

73, Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-

Same thing with a CW keyboard.  Typing was taught in high school by rhythm
and thus typing the next character at the right time was easy. 

With one key rollover, one can just about forget the need for a buffer.

 

I really pity the person who is trying to learn to use a dual lever paddle
from scratch with any type of keying logic.  My perception is that squeezing
timing is much more unnatural and difficult to achieve than back and forth
"slapping".  Of course, the rest of the CW world has mastered it, so it's
obviously not impossible.

 

I think your survey needs to include how many really CW ragchew. That number
has got to be small. All of this stuff becomes unnecessary if one just
engages in 599 73 QSO's.

 

73 de Brian/K3KO

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

2012-08-12 Thread M. George
Gentlemen, thanks for the details on the quick memories and several
suggestions on how to do this.  I will spend some time reading up on the
quick memories.  The key was that they are obviously are set per band.  I'm
sure I can come up with a good work around now.

If there is still some room left in the K3 firmware address space... I sure
wouldn't complain if this was added in a future update... hint, hint,
nudge, nudge... ;)

Thanks again for the responses everyone.  de NG7M Max
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Glitches

2012-08-12 Thread kevinr
Hi Folks,
 The first CW net went OK except for my power dying twice.  Once I 
got the power cable jumped over to another power supply all was fine.  
Hopefully I did not splatter too much as the power died as I was sending.
 See you in the next net,
  Kevin.   KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Wes Stewart
My former TS-870 had a built-in Logikey and I could actually send with it.  The 
same can't be said for the K3 internal keyer.  I can barely program the 
memories without a few tries. As to holding a QSO forget it.  I've been sending 
the numeral "7" in my call since 1958 and it still comes out "M S" with the K3. 
:-)

--- On Sun, 8/12/12, John Oppenheimer  wrote:
Date: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 3:34 PM

On 08/12/2012 03:27 PM, Erik Basilier wrote:

> 3.  How many operators can truly say that they make use of iambic features?

I do too. I went from straight key to Iambic back in the 70s, or so. I
used a HB copy of the Heathkit HD-1410 Iambic keyer and a HB Iambic Key.

I decided that I would not chase the various rig internal keyers and
standardize on a keyer and key. Mine are Idiom Press K3 and CMOS-4 (VØ
Logikey K1, K3 timing w/dot and dash memory) and Vibroplex Iambic key.
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread Edward R Cole
$785 on the face of it looks high.  The K3 internal 100w amp costs 
$500 installed and $450 as a kit.  But is it not a stand-alone unit 
so missing chassis and connectors and other items.  I believe the 
KXPA-100 was targeted for about $800 (Wayne/Eric correct me if wrong).

I am still working on making up CCI AN762 PA kits with auto-band 
control (option) and internal LP filter board in a 5.5x5.5x11.0 inch 
package.  I still have the prototype filter board to submit for 
estimates from the pc fabricator.  My pre-production est. cost is 
$449 for 5w/140w 13.6vdc 160-10m amp.

http://www.kl7uw.com
take the link to Kits "made" by KL7UW

73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] Tuning the K1 using W1AW or WWV.

2012-08-12 Thread Mike Morrow
Gil wrote:

> Did I explain the procedure correctly?
>
> http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,112.0.html

I'm not sure I understand everything in your statements there:

> With WWV on 10mHz (30m), you move the tune pot until their tone matches
> your sidetone frequency on the screen, meaning, if you did set your tone
> to 600Hz, you move the tuning pot until their "main" tone (thicker line)
> shows on the 600Hz mark on the screen. If your display shows 10,000.6,
> you're right on.

Try this really simple test for proper K1 display adjustment:

Assume that the transmitter offset adjustment RF-C13 has been set for
the desired 600 Hz sidetone.  Because the K1 receiver operates in LSB
mode, the transmitter frequency is 600 Hz *below* the frequency of any
calibration signal with which the K1 receiver is zero beat.  The K1
should display transmitter frequency, not receiver cal signal zero beat
frequency.  So...

If K1 transmitter offset is set to 600 Hz and the K1 receiver is zero
beat to 10 MHz WWV, the display should show 9,999.4 kHz.

BASIS and NOTES:

It is sufficiently accurate to zero beat WWV by tuning until the voice
announcements sound natural. Tests have shown that most people can easily
tune a receiver within 25 Hz of a calibration frequency in this manner.

Once the K1 receiver is zero beat with 10 MHz WWV, the OPF display cal
function may be used to set the LCD to indicate the transmit frequency
as 10,000.0 kHz - 0.6 kHz = 9,999.4 kHz.

That doesn't mean that the LCD will always reflect the actual transmit
frequency from that point on.  

The inputs that generate receiver frequency are the filter board
heterodyne oscillator frequency (HFO, crystal-controlled, not adjustable),
the receiver BFO frequency (X5, crystal-controlled, adjustable with C20),
and the VFO frequency.  Receive Frequency = HFO - X5 - VFO .

The inputs that generate transmitter frequency are the filter board
heterodyne oscillator frequency (HFO, crystal-controlled, not adjustable),
the transmitter mixer frequency (X6, crystal-controlled, adjustable with C13),
and the VFO frequency.  Transmit Frequency = HFO - X6 - VFO .

However, the K1 MPU counts *only* the VFO.  It assumes a fixed band-specific
value for HFO, assumes a fixed value of X5, counts the VFO frequency, and 
applies the stored user-adjustable band-specific OPF datum to generate a
frequency display that is unmodified between receive and transmit conditions.
The display must be manually adjusted during the OPF cal process to reflect
the *transmit* frequency.

Any subsequent changes to HFO or X6 (due to temperature change and, for
X6, C13 change/manual adjustment) will *not* be indicated as a change
to displayed frequency.

The value of X6 is rather stable, but not so much that there is a lot
of value in using sophisticated methods to set RF-C13, IMHO.

Performance of the OPF calibration must be done for *each band*.  WWV can
serve for the 30m filter board, if the 170 kHz VFO span option has been
utilized.  An accurate cal signal must be found for each of the other
bands on a filter board.  I have never considered W1AW to be an adequate
frequency standard, but it's better than nothing.

Also, OPF data are stored in the K1 front panel circuitry...and not on the
filter board.  Only *one* OPF cal datum can be stored for each band between
160m to 10m.  If one has, say, a filter board for 40/30/20/15m and another
for 17/15m, only one OPF datum can be stored for the duplicated 15m band.
Small variances in heterodyne crystals will result in less accurate 15m
frequency display when one filter board is in place, compared to that of
the filter board in place during the latest 15m OPF cal.

73,
Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I learned to type that way in High School too but what really taught me to
keep a steady pace was pounding away on an old Model 15 RTTY keyboard in the
Army. As each key was pressed the keyboard locked while the mechanical
encoder cycled before another key could be pressed. Fortunately it was
pretty noisy so one learned to hear the mechanism cycle and knew just when
the next key could be pressed. Tapping one foot worked well too :-)

99.99% of my operating is CW rag chewing. We may be a diminishing "breed",
but there are still plenty of us out there to provide some really nice hours
on the bands. 

That got me nostalgic for the old Model 15 "rattle" so I looked and, sure
'nough, someone has one running on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWa6u5_Itvs

The trick is to keep that rhythm for maximum inputting speed on the
keyboard. 

73, Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-

Same thing with a CW keyboard.  Typing was taught in high school by rhythm
and thus typing the next character at the right time was easy. 

With one key rollover, one can just about forget the need for a buffer.

 

I really pity the person who is trying to learn to use a dual lever paddle
from scratch with any type of keying logic.  My perception is that squeezing
timing is much more unnatural and difficult to achieve than back and forth
"slapping".  Of course, the rest of the CW world has mastered it, so it's
obviously not impossible.

 

I think your survey needs to include how many really CW ragchew. That number
has got to be small. All of this stuff becomes unnecessary if one just
engages in 599 73 QSO's.

 

73 de Brian/K3KO

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[Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Erik Basilier
Ron, thanks for your comments, and I recognize that there must be a sizable
minority of operators that are fully competent with iambic. And, when iambic
is mastered it can probably produce faster code than either a single paddle
or a double paddle used by a non-iambic operator. What I don't believe is
that if you put a dual paddle with iambic logic in the hands of an
established operator, he will gradually slip into making use of the iambic
features. Yet, that seems to be the assumption of manufacturers. I can think
of 3 dual paddles available from Elecraft, but no single paddle option. Two
of the Elecraft paddles are for portable rigs. My experience with portable
operation is that the sitting position is usually uncomfortable, the hands
may be cold and shaking (due to cold or exertion), and motor skills are way
below the level at the shack. In such a situation, my mistakes with a dual
paddle go way up, and either Ultimatic or a single paddle would help a lot.
Before my KX1 I used a single lever made from flexing PC board with my
portable radios. It didn't go fast, but was very reliable after I soldered
little pieces of sterling silver to the contact points. Somehow I am
guessing that the tendency of manufacturers toward dual paddles and
complicated keying logic has something to do with the desire to appear to
deliver the most for the money. Beginners may be swayed by that. Some
manufacturers seem to really promote "more is more" as in pounds of radio
and number of knobs. Others, particularly when selling qrp rigs may promote
"less is more". For the thinking ham, neither slogan makes sense. Elecraft
provides lots features where more certainly is more, but saves us from
backbreaking radio weights and impractical numbers of controls. When it
comes to keying, the "more is more" seems to have won out without real
justification. 

BTW many years ago like you I built a keyer from discrete CMOS (published in
73 mag). I don't remember what the keying logic was, but since dual paddles
were used, I am guessing that the whole project was motivated by the new
iambic ideas. I never learnt to use it at all (let alone the iambic
features) until I reversed the paddles to get the dits on the thumb. I can
relate to the pleasure of learning a physical skill like that (used to play
classical guitar), but feel that the movements with iambic are just too
small and delicate. Maybe I just need to set bigger spacing an use more
forceful movements to feel what is going on, but I seem to have a preference
for very small contact spacings. Interesting to hear about your need for
time to adjust between different sets of muscle memories. I experience
something similar in copying morse. I can copy quite fast, but it takes a
few moments to "load the decoder into my brain". One time I was filling up
at a gas station and another customer saw my mobile antenna and asked what I
was doing. When I said I was a ham, he started voicing "di-dah's" at me and
I couldn't copy at all. In addition to the general boot-up time, I just
wasn't programmed for that. 

 

73,

Erik K7TV



To answer your question, after 20 years of using a straight key and bug, I
built a discrete-component CMOS iambic keyer in the 1970's. 

 

I did start out slow but speed came quickly, IIRC, as my fingers learned the
correct pattern of movements for each character. But I had to do the same
thing when I learned to use a bug in the 1950's. Knowing Morse doesn't mean
one's body knows how to operate a particular key to generate it. That takes
practice. 

 

I was pleasantly surprised to find that the iambic keyer built into the K2
and K3 was as comfortable to use as my old homebrew keyer. 

 

Unfortunately, I found that I could -not- use a bug and the iambic keyer (in
iambic mode) interchangeably. My "muscle memory" was too strong and I found
myself squeezing the bug paddle. Also my timing on the bug was lousy since
the keyer did all the timing and spacing for me. So, after about 25 years on
the iambic keyer, my bug won out after another re-training period -- at
least as long as I enjoy sending CW with it. However, I have gone back to
the iambic keyer from time to time to load CW memories, etc., and iambic
fingering comes back in a few seconds.

 

But I enjoy learning physical skills like that. It's part of the fun of Ham
radio for me. Otherwise I'd not have bothered switching to an iambic keyer
and then back to the bug. I don't think I'm part of a silent "majority".

Most likely I'm part of a substantial "minority" - either on an iambic keyer
or on a bug. 

 

73, Ron AC7AC

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread John Oppenheimer
On 08/12/2012 03:27 PM, Erik Basilier wrote:

> 3.  How many operators can truly say that they make use of iambic features?

I do too. I went from straight key to Iambic back in the 70s, or so. I
used a HB copy of the Heathkit HD-1410 Iambic keyer and a HB Iambic Key.

I decided that I would not chase the various rig internal keyers and
standardize on a keyer and key. Mine are Idiom Press K3 and CMOS-4 (VØ
Logikey K1, K3 timing w/dot and dash memory) and Vibroplex Iambic key.

My suggestion is to find what you like in an external keyer and use it
for home use. And make compromises when going portable or ultra
portable. I do use the internal K2 keyer (B), sometimes, when going
portable.

It may be much to ask a rig manufacture to implement the "feel" of every
keyer and key permutation implemented through the years.

I bring my key and keyer to Field Day. If it was more then once a year,
I would make a key/keyer go-box!

John KN5L



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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Vic K2VCO
You guys got me interested, and I have a keyer that supports it, so I tried it.

Couldn't send C's or K's. Both of which are in my call!

On 8/12/2012 1:25 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
> For those Listers who don't know what Ultimatic keying is all about -
> and are afraid to ask  - here is a description by Chuck Olson WB9KZY and
> some references also: http://wb9kzy.com/ultimat.txt
>
> 73, Stan WB2LQF
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread Wes Stewart
If the transistors ran at >28V and it had a built-in PS it might be worth the 
price.

--- On Sat, 8/11/12, Adrian  wrote:
Specifications

 Amplifier typical gain: 13db
 
RF input: 1 to 20 watts
 
Operating Voltage: 13.8 volts +/- 15% (20 amp power source required)
 
Frequency Range: 160 through 6 meters (ham bands only)
 
RF output Power: 100 Watts, +/- 1 db (with typical 5 watts drive)
 
Operating Modes: AM, FM, AFSK, PSK, SSB, CW
 
Duty Cycle: 50% (TX/RX) 100 watts output. 100% for CW and SSB
 
Front Panel Display: Custom FSTN monochrome LCD
 
Display Back Lighting: 6 LEDs,for more than 200 color options
 
Cooling: 2 internal fans, temperature controlled
 
Harmonic & Spurious Outputs: -50dBc Typical @ 100 Watts HF, -60dBc Typical 6
Meters
 
Third Order Intermod: 30 dB below peak
 
Dimensions (HxWxD): 3.625" x 6.5" x 7.6" (excluding feet and connectors)
 
Weight: 5.4 lbs
 
DC Power Connector: Power Poles
 
Fuse (back panel): 25 Amp, Automotive Blade Style
 
Key Jack: 1/8" Stereo Tip-Key In Ring-Key Out
 
ACC Din Connector: 8 Pin DIN, Key In, Clock/Data/Enable, Ground
 
Construction: Molded Plastic bezel, Aluminum chassis, front & rear panels &
textured painted steel covers
 
Antenna Impedance: 50 ohms nominal
 
Automatic fault for: Antenna mismatch(output power >50 watts), Over current,
Over temperature, and high input power
 
Works with most antennas (SWR less than 3:1)
 
Easy plug and play operation with Ten-Tec model 539 QRP radio
 
Separate antenna connector provided for automatic switch to six meter
antenna
 
Works with most QRP radios
 
RF connectors: 1 RF input, 3 RF outputs (two HF & One 6 meter)
 
Amplifier keyed from direct connection to foot switch, hand switch, or
straight key. Key Out from amplifier is provided to key radio.


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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-12 Thread Edward R Cole
First-off my apology this reply is so behind in time.  My main 
computer was under re-build so was having to use web-based e-mail to 
access my e-mail and the reflector would not recognise me as 
registered for posting replies.

I think which parameter is most significant depends a lot on the use, 
whether that be HF contest, DX, rag-chew, and what mode: CW, SSB, or 
one of the digital modes.  Is this a strong-signal environ or super 
weak-signal?

Across the board (Sherwood table) the KX3 is impressive (when on 
takes into what challenges a direct-conversion receiver faces).  Also 
the entry cost for a new radio is pretty great for being on top of the list!

For my favored modes which all involve weak-signal reception the -144 
dBc/Hz LO noise is a big plus!  I do not encounter nearby large 
signals so the other two parameters are less of an issue.

But I will use the KX3 in a wider range of ham use so the 
strong-signal characteristics will be definitely nice.  As to the 
individual selling his FT-817 (being made harder) why I sold mine 
last winter ahead of the game.

Aside to Wayne:  Sherwood numbers great stuff to add to my product 
review paper on using the KX3 as IF radio for mw.  The mw gang hold 
great store by low-noise LO's.  Next they look at LO freq. stability 
so a pending EXREF will be significant for purchase decisions made by mw hams.

I'm hoping we can see the KX3-2M before the presentation in San Jose 
(MUD-2012) Biltmore Hotel, Oct. 19-20.  144-MHz is the most popular 
IF for mw equipment.

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread Thomas Horsten
Unlikely, I wouldn't be without the internal 100W in my K3.

Thomas

On 12 August 2012 22:07, Keith-K5ENS  wrote:

> It can't sell near the price of the KPA3 because it would kill alot of the
> KPA3 sales.
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread Keith-K5ENS
It can't sell near the price of the KPA3 because it would kill alot of the
KPA3 sales.  



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[Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Erik Basilier
Hi Brian,

 

Yes, if you use a single paddle, the logic in the keyer doesn't affect you,
but I wouldn't call that "using" iambic. Given that there are so many dual
paddles on the market, and so few singles, I have to believe that most hams
that use an electronic keyer are currently using dual paddles with iambic
keyer logic. My theory is that this can be shown to have a small but
statistically negative effect on the average quality of sending, and thus on
operator satisfaction, and on the popularity of cw ragchewing. The cause of
ham radio would therefore be advanced if the elite iambic features were not
compulsory. Unless of course most of those operators have learnt squeeze
keying, and you and I are in the minority. I think to be meaningful, a poll
should probably not be conducted by messages here, but on some website that
has a polling feature. Congrat's on your doing 45 wpm with a single paddle.
Maybe I am just too lazy, and spending-averse, and too squeemish about the
larger paddle movement, to get a single paddle and be able to go faster that
way.

 

73,

Erik K7TV

 

Hi Eric,

 

I use iambic --- sort of.  I came through the ranks of bug and single lever
keyers where you had to supply your own timing.  Hence transitioning to
iambic on a single level paddle was easy.  Just keep doing what one always
did.  No real benefit of a dual paddle.  Once I get much above 45 wpm, it's
time to use the keyboard.

 

Same thing with a CW keyboard.  Typing was taught in high school by rhythm
and thus typing the next character at the right time was easy. 

With one key rollover, one can just about forget the need for a buffer.

 

I really pity the person who is trying to learn to use a dual lever paddle
from scratch with any type of keying logic.  My perception is that squeezing
timing is much more unnatural and difficult to achieve than back and forth
"slapping".  Of course, the rest of the CW world has mastered it, so it's
obviously not impossible.

 

I think your survey needs to include how many really CW ragchew. That number
has got to be small. All of this stuff becomes unnecessary if one just
engages in 599 73 QSO's.

 

73 de Brian/K3KO

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
To answer your question, after 20 years of using a straight key and bug, I
built a discrete-component CMOS iambic keyer in the 1970's. 

I did start out slow but speed came quickly, IIRC, as my fingers learned the
correct pattern of movements for each character. But I had to do the same
thing when I learned to use a bug in the 1950's. Knowing Morse doesn't mean
one's body knows how to operate a particular key to generate it. That takes
practice. 

I was pleasantly surprised to find that the iambic keyer built into the K2
and K3 was as comfortable to use as my old homebrew keyer. 

Unfortunately, I found that I could -not- use a bug and the iambic keyer (in
iambic mode) interchangeably. My "muscle memory" was too strong and I found
myself squeezing the bug paddle. Also my timing on the bug was lousy since
the keyer did all the timing and spacing for me. So, after about 25 years on
the iambic keyer, my bug won out after another re-training period -- at
least as long as I enjoy sending CW with it. However, I have gone back to
the iambic keyer from time to time to load CW memories, etc., and iambic
fingering comes back in a few seconds.

But I enjoy learning physical skills like that. It's part of the fun of Ham
radio for me. Otherwise I'd not have bothered switching to an iambic keyer
and then back to the bug. I don't think I'm part of a silent "majority".
Most likely I'm part of a substantial "minority" - either on an iambic keyer
or on a bug. 

73, Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-

3.  How many operators can truly say that they make use of iambic features?
Could a poll be conducted? I think to learn iambic, one would have to start
using it at very slow speeds to begin with, and unless one did this at the
start of one's ham career, who goes back to slow speeds just to learn
iambic? Silent majority?

 

73,

Erik K7TV


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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Fred Jensen
I believe this was done several years ago on this list during a previous 
Ultimatic thread.  Unfortunately, keyer modes are right up with 
religions for many folks ... I recall the discourse was "spirited."  I 
do not recall the ultimate outcome, if there was one, but I do remember 
the "spirit!"

73,

Fred K6DGW [keyer mode = SIA ... "Slap It Around."]
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 8/12/2012 1:27 PM, Erik Basilier wrote:

> 3.  How many operators can truly say that they make use of iambic features?
> Could a poll be conducted?


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Juma Linear.

2012-08-12 Thread Fred Jensen
On 8/12/2012 1:28 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> The kit LOOKS cute, but I see NO information about performance specs --
> nothing about harmonic content, IMD, or sideband noise.  At Euro 460,
> it's going to cost about $600 delivered to a US address for a kit with
> NO performance specs other than power in/out.  13 dB of power gain is
> easy.  Doing it CLEANLY is another matter.
>
> Am I missing something?

I sincerely doubt it.  Nothing about QSK either.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Juma Linear.

2012-08-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/12/2012 11:32 AM, David Robertson wrote:
> I have ordered and built a Juma P100-D linear for use with the K3. With 3
> watts drive the linear puts out 100 watts. You can see the linear at
> www.jumaradio.com.

The kit LOOKS cute, but I see NO information about performance specs -- 
nothing about harmonic content, IMD, or sideband noise.  At Euro 460, 
it's going to cost about $600 delivered to a US address for a kit with 
NO performance specs other than power in/out.  13 dB of power gain is 
easy.  Doing it CLEANLY is another matter.

Am I missing something?

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Erik Basilier
To elaborate a little bit further:

1.  For those of us that lack iambic skills, there are rational reasons for
us to use dual paddles, although simple-minded logic would suggest that we
stick with single paddles. Not only is the paddle travel excessive when
moving a single paddle from dot to dash, but there is also the annoying
detent in the middle.

2.  Given that the non-iambic operator uses dual paddles, the dual paddles
open up ways to screw up that don't exist with a single paddle. Ultimatic is
clearly designed to mitigate the risk of such mishaps. That is not to say
that Ultimatic is the only possible logic that meets that goal, but it is at
least established.

3.  How many operators can truly say that they make use of iambic features?
Could a poll be conducted? I think to learn iambic, one would have to start
using it at very slow speeds to begin with, and unless one did this at the
start of one's ham career, who goes back to slow speeds just to learn
iambic? Silent majority?

 

73,

Erik K7TV

 

>Me too!

 

Gary KJ7RT

 

Sent from my iPad

 

On Aug 12, 2012, at 10:55, "Erik Basilier"  wrote:

 

> I too support the request to add Ultimatic to Elecraft rigs. I don't 

> have the fine motor control of my fingers required to make use of 

> iambic features. I treat the dual paddles the same as a single paddle 

> for the most part. However, the dual paddle feels better than a single 

> paddle, probably because pressing one of the paddles gets a result 

> after a movement of one gap space, while a single paddle means the 

> paddle travels two gap spacings within a character. Given my way of 

> using dual paddles, the keyer logic just needs to be as forgiving as 

> possible in handling the inconsistencies in my finger motions. Years 

> ago when I built the external keyer with Ultimatic mode, I tried it 

> and felt that it made my keying more consistent. At this time I have 

> almost zero time for ham radio, and haven't plugged in the external 

> keyer after returning from FD. When I get time, I should test my 

> maximum sending speed with vs without Ultimatic. I do know that just 

> using the K3's keyer, I start making excessive errors if I try to send
faster than about 25 wpm. Perhaps Ultimatic will let me go faster.

> 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread stan levandowski
For those Listers who don't know what Ultimatic keying is all about - 
and are afraid to ask  - here is a description by Chuck Olson WB9KZY and 
some references also: http://wb9kzy.com/ultimat.txt

73, Stan WB2LQF

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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Gary Marklund
Me too!

Gary KJ7RT

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 12, 2012, at 10:55, "Erik Basilier"  wrote:

> I too support the request to add Ultimatic to Elecraft rigs. I don't have
> the fine motor control of my fingers required to make use of iambic
> features. I treat the dual paddles the same as a single paddle for the most
> part. However, the dual paddle feels better than a single paddle, probably
> because pressing one of the paddles gets a result after a movement of one
> gap space, while a single paddle means the paddle travels two gap spacings
> within a character. Given my way of using dual paddles, the keyer logic just
> needs to be as forgiving as possible in handling the inconsistencies in my
> finger motions. Years ago when I built the external keyer with Ultimatic
> mode, I tried it and felt that it made my keying more consistent. At this
> time I have almost zero time for ham radio, and haven't plugged in the
> external keyer after returning from FD. When I get time, I should test my
> maximum sending speed with vs without Ultimatic. I do know that just using
> the K3's keyer, I start making excessive errors if I try to send faster than
> about 25 wpm. Perhaps Ultimatic will let me go faster.
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Erik K7TV 
> 
> 
> 
>> Yes please, I've been waiting for this for a few years now!
> 
> 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
> 
> --
> 
> I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him.
> -Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642)
> 
> 
> 
> On 11 Aug 2012, at 16:32, emann...@csc.uvic.ca wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> I third the motion!
> 
>> 
> 
>> I have been building external boxes to provide Ultimatic keying mode 
> 
>> for about 25 years.
> 
>> 
> 
>> It would be VERY nice to have it internal to the K3/KX3...
> 
>> 
> 
>> Eric
> 
>> VA7DZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

2012-08-12 Thread J.K. Hooper
As a future K3 owner, I can say that I, too, would like this feature.I am 
so use to this feature on my current xcvr that I don't quite know what the K3 
behavior is without this feature!  

Hoop
K9QJS 



On Aug 12, 2012, at 11:46 AM, M. George wrote:

I have done some research to see if this feature has been discussed /
requested before...  After getting back into hobby in the spring of April
2009, I dusted off my old 1000MP and started operating on a regular basis.
It had been in the box for almost 9 years of non use.  Anyway,  many on
the list had or still have the 1000MP, a great radio.  It's fun to be back
active again on HF.  I'm trying to catch up for all the lost time by
spending a lot of $$$ now. ;)

Well, this spring I decided to pull the trigger on a K3 after really
getting to kick the tires on several at a couple of N3RS ARRL CW efforts
over the last 3 years.  It was time for a new radio and I loved the
portability of the K3 and what I was hearing / using at the N3RS CW contest
operations.

So I put a kit together a pretty loaded up kit version in April and I'm
really loving the K3 and there is certainly no going back to the 1000MP.
It was perfect on a county line expedition I did for 7QP.

Back to the real reason for this email to the list... There is one thing I
really miss from the 1000MP (the only thing really) and it's the auto
memory of the last frequency you used per mode / band.  I'm sure this
wouldn't be fore everyone so it should be optional.  I really like how if
you were operating on 14008.5 CW for example and you pushed the Mode for
SSB, you will change to SSB (obviously) and the frequency would jump to the
last frequency you had used SSB on for 20 meters in this case, 14220 for
example... if you popped back to the CW mode, you would jump right back to
14008.5 in this example.  I find it really clunky to change the step or
manually enter a frequency.  It was so nice to get you into the band area
for the mode automatically and then just tun around from there.

Have I missed something obvious for the K3?  Is there a way to creatively
do this now?  With a macro maybe?  I tried to hunt around and see if
someone had the same question or suggestion, but maybe I'm searching for
the wrong terms.

de Max NG7M
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[Elecraft] K3 Sidetone feature request

2012-08-12 Thread N6MQL
Drew, although I don't see a way for you to accomplish what you're asking, 
being able to move the pitch Freq. while still monitoring the signal.  I can 
see a way for Dale to do what he is trying to accomplish.
Dale, have you considered setting your pitch to say 500hz (for example), and 
then sliding your IF shift off freq. center by perhaps a few Hz (50 or so) and 
then centering your DX station in the middle of that modified IF center.  This 
would change the sound of his tone to 450Hz for example (or 550Hz depending on 
which way you move the IF Shift). At the same time, this would keep him right 
in the center of your IF Width filter. Yet Your pitch for transmit would still 
remain at 500 Hz. This would give you a nice difference between your TX and 
receive Tones.  In order to TX on his Zero beat freq. you may would have to do 
a SPLIT operation and then TX on the original freq where he is zero beat 
without the offset.  Here's an example below:

DX Zero beat = 14.050.000
Pitch = 500Hz
IF Shift = +50Hz (.55 on the Shift display)
VFO A Read out = 14.050.050 (DX now sounds 50HZ higher than your Pitch Freq but 
still remains ZERO Beat)
TX Split Freq  = 14.050.000

Hope this works out for you.  Best 73,

Michael
N6MQL



While trying to work D64K the other night on 20m CW with the filters
>tightened down to about 100Hz around D64K (to filter out the typical
>tuner-uppers, 'up'-cops, and stations calling on or nearly on
>frequency)  I wished that there was a way to offset the sidetone
>frequency just a bit so that it wasn't the same as the filter center
>frequency.  This issue is that when operating fast QSK where the DX
>station is tightly centered in the filter bandpass, my own sidetone gets
>in the way of being able to hear the DX station since the frequency is
>the same. If the sidetone could be offset 50 to 100 Hz above or below
>the filter center frequency, this masking would no longer occur.
>
>Any chance that this capability already exists and I just haven't
>discovered it yet?
>
>73, Dale
>WA8SRA



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

2012-08-12 Thread wb6rse1

On Aug 12, 2012, at 11:46 AM, M. George wrote:

Have I missed something obvious for the K3?  Is there a way to creatively
do this now?  With a macro maybe?  I tried to hunt around and see if
someone had the same question or suggestion, but maybe I'm searching for
the wrong terms.
_

Use the V > M and the M1-M4 Quick Mem buttons. EG - M1 CW, M2 Data, M3 SSB. 
You're on 20m CW and want to go to 20m SSB but want to come back to the same 
spot on 20m CW. V > M then M1 will save the CW freq (and sub RX and split 
settings etc). And V > M then M3 will do the same for the SSB freq you just 
went to. Then M > V and the M# button will easily let you toggle between 
freqs/modes. Do it a few times and you won't even think about it.

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Adrian
Well here's the thing. 6m is most current hungry band and the one most
likely to give you current warnings.
 I had the same comment for 6m cw chirp with mine.

 If you replace the APP connectors and use 10mm^2 cable in short to a close
by solid 15v 30amp supply(I use a sw/mode), the chirp disappears.
Your 3rd order TX IMD improves several to 10dB. The current warnings go
away, The power level issues (starting too low then recovering)
 go away, despite all the TX gain calibrations you have tried.

I only really liked my K3 after doing above.

Adrian ... vk4tux

-Original Message-
From: Peter Chamalian [mailto:w...@arrl.net] 
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012 2:26 AM
To: 'Adrian'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

The voltage read by the internal K3 meter says the voltage drops to 12.6
volts which I reported to the tech's at Elecraft.  They did not think it
significant.  Also, the problem only has been reported on 6 meters.  I'm a
98% Cw operator so if there was a hint of a chirp on the HF bands, it would
have been brought to my attention by those I work regularly.

The power lead I use is the one supplied by Elecraft.

Pete, W1RM


-Original Message-
From: Adrian [mailto:vk4...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:04 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

Measuring voltdrop at the supply i.e. 13.77v to 13.74v is irrelevant. Please
tell us what it is at the APP connector or screen (load end) please?
 

I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for service,
but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there is a mod for
the synthesizer board and that was made without solving the problem.  No,
it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp Astron provides 13.77 volts
key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not RF because when I got the report
I reduced power (external amp off) down to the point where the station could
not copy me and the chirp was still there.

 

The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was clean.  At
a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other from SC and I'm in
central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had been on 6 for a while.

 

Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?

 

Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of a
chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How long had
you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other observation that
might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.

 

Thanks!

 

Pete, W1RM

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

2012-08-12 Thread John Oppenheimer
On 08/12/2012 01:46 PM, M. George wrote:

There is one thing I
> really miss from the 1000MP (the only thing really) and it's the auto
> memory of the last frequency you used per mode / band.

Something similar has been discussed several times in past threads. I
agree. The general term is "band stacking registers."

There have been many responses, in the past, to use fixed memories as a
substitute. Or Quick registers. None of the suggestions will be as
functional as "band stacking registers."

A Google search of, including the quotes:
"band stacking registers"
will result with the first link being one of the several Elecraft list
threads:
www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg37726.html

Therefore, a replay of all of the suggestions isn't necessary.

John, KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

2012-08-12 Thread Rick Prather
Max,

Have you checked out the "Quick Memories" section of the manual?

With them set up you can pretty well approximate what you are trying to do.

I have mine set as follows per band.

M1 - CW
M2 - SSB
M3 - PSK
M4 - RTTY

Rick
K6LE

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

2012-08-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Max,

It is not the same thing, but I have set up the keypad for "Quick 
Memories"  and as a result, I seldom use either the band switch or the 
mode switch.  In each of the quick memories, I store one VFO for the SSB 
area and the other for the CW section -

I change bands by holding the M>V button then tapping the keypad button 
corresponding to the memory location where I have stored the contents.  
If I want CW, and it comes up with the SSB frequency, tapping A/B swaps 
them - these quick memories will remember the last used frequency on a band.

In addition, there are 4 more memories for each band - the M1 thru M4 
buttons.  I load M1 with somewhere in the center of the CW band I use, 
M2 for the SSB portion, and M3 for the DATA mode section of the band - 
hold M>V and tap the one you want.
I leave M4 blank in case I want to quickly store a frequency and mode 
that I would want to go back to quickly.

I think that is *almost* the function you want, but it does take some 
setup time, it is not done automatically (except for the (single) last 
used frequency and mode on a band change,

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/12/2012 2:46 PM, M. George wrote:
>
> Back to the real reason for this email to the list... There is one thing I
> really miss from the 1000MP (the only thing really) and it's the auto
> memory of the last frequency you used per mode / band.  I'm sure this
> wouldn't be fore everyone so it should be optional.  I really like how if
> you were operating on 14008.5 CW for example and you pushed the Mode for
> SSB, you will change to SSB (obviously) and the frequency would jump to the
> last frequency you had used SSB on for 20 meters in this case, 14220 for
> example... if you popped back to the CW mode, you would jump right back to
> 14008.5 in this example.  I find it really clunky to change the step or
> manually enter a frequency.  It was so nice to get you into the band area
> for the mode automatically and then just tun around from there.
>
> Have I missed something obvious for the K3?  Is there a way to creatively
> do this now?  With a macro maybe?  I tried to hunt around and see if
> someone had the same question or suggestion, but maybe I'm searching for
> the wrong terms.
>
> de Max NG7M
>

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[Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

2012-08-12 Thread M. George
I have done some research to see if this feature has been discussed /
requested before...  After getting back into hobby in the spring of April
2009, I dusted off my old 1000MP and started operating on a regular basis.
 It had been in the box for almost 9 years of non use.  Anyway,  many on
the list had or still have the 1000MP, a great radio.  It's fun to be back
active again on HF.  I'm trying to catch up for all the lost time by
spending a lot of $$$ now. ;)

Well, this spring I decided to pull the trigger on a K3 after really
getting to kick the tires on several at a couple of N3RS ARRL CW efforts
over the last 3 years.  It was time for a new radio and I loved the
portability of the K3 and what I was hearing / using at the N3RS CW contest
operations.

So I put a kit together a pretty loaded up kit version in April and I'm
really loving the K3 and there is certainly no going back to the 1000MP.
 It was perfect on a county line expedition I did for 7QP.

Back to the real reason for this email to the list... There is one thing I
really miss from the 1000MP (the only thing really) and it's the auto
memory of the last frequency you used per mode / band.  I'm sure this
wouldn't be fore everyone so it should be optional.  I really like how if
you were operating on 14008.5 CW for example and you pushed the Mode for
SSB, you will change to SSB (obviously) and the frequency would jump to the
last frequency you had used SSB on for 20 meters in this case, 14220 for
example... if you popped back to the CW mode, you would jump right back to
14008.5 in this example.  I find it really clunky to change the step or
manually enter a frequency.  It was so nice to get you into the band area
for the mode automatically and then just tun around from there.

Have I missed something obvious for the K3?  Is there a way to creatively
do this now?  With a macro maybe?  I tried to hunt around and see if
someone had the same question or suggestion, but maybe I'm searching for
the wrong terms.

de Max NG7M
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Re: [Elecraft] Apple 30 pin

2012-08-12 Thread Matt Zilmer
The line in is unusable for phone functions, but works with all
multimedia apps.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:43:59 -0700, you wrote:

>Guys,
>
>I don't know if this got covered so here goes.
>The Apple 30 pin connector has stereo line in and tons of other stuff. See: 
>http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml (It is RU but safe)
>
>Clint KI6SSN
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[Elecraft] KX3 Juma Linear.

2012-08-12 Thread David Robertson
Everyone I have a KX3 #700 that is working fine. I am providing you this
information for those that are interested. The linear works fine with the
KX3 on all modes.

I have ordered and built a Juma P100-D linear for use with the K3. With 3
watts drive the linear puts out 100 watts. You can see the linear at
www.jumaradio.com.
Below is an e-mail I sent the engineers at Juma radio with My experiances
in building this linear kit and I wanted to share this with you.

73
Dave KD1NA

( e-mail to JUMA )

Juha and Matti,
Last month I ordered and received one of your PA100-D kits. This e-mail
will convey my experiences and issues in assembling the kit.

First off let me inform you that the PA100-D is fully operational and has
met my total expectations.

I was quite satisfied with the quality of the components and design of the
amplifier. The documentation, though sparse, provided me enough information
needed to get everything together. The pictorial procedure to both winding
the toroidal  coils on the main board and the construction instructions on
the PA board were very good and well documented. The parts lists as well as
the printed circuit board layout documents gave me a good road map to where
everything goes. Your schematic drawings are very good quality and easy to
follow.

I will state that this kit is not for the beginner and in fact it would be
safe to say that over 50% of the hams in the United States would lack the
skills to assemble your kit. Having said that I will say after completing
your PA100-D kit I have a great amount of pride in the fact that I built
this unit and it performs so well.

My surface mount experience is limited and at first I was clearly
struggling to properly getting the components mounted. After completing the
control board ( I chose the most challenging board first ) I started to get
very comfortable working with surface mounted components. It was the small
resistors that was most challenging.

Construction issues:
The PA Board;
The copper wire that was to make the ground connection and also assembling
L3 was missing and in it's place was a small spool of solder.

The brass cores that make up transformer T1 on the PA board were not the
same diameter. One was 0.3 mm too large diameter and wouldn't slip into
it's core. I machined it down to make it fit and it is working fine.

The front panel board's holes that pass the push-button switches were too
small and caused the buttons to bind after mounting the panel on the
control board. I enlarged the holes about 1mm now the buttons pass through
freely.

On the PA board the Z1 and Q4 components were very hard to read the
printing on the components even under very high magnification. We had the
same problem on the Main board with Z1 and TR1. A suggestion is to tape the
component's package to a small piece of paper with it's identification
written on it. On some packages containing multiple devices you often had
labels attached so no problem even though reading the actual component's
number was near imposable.

Another observation is you refer to transistors as Q1 or Q2 on the PA and
control board parts list and schematic, but list them as TR1 and TR2 on the
main board parts list and schematics. I had no problem with this but this
could lead to  less experienced builders.

Overall the kit was fun to build and the end product works quite well. For
your information I am driving the linear with an Elecraft KX3.

I will copy this e-mail to your e-mail forum as well as to the Elecraft
forum for everyone's information. You make a great product.

73
Dave KD1NA
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[Elecraft] K3 CW decoder question

2012-08-12 Thread Phil Townsend
The CW decode displays it's output to the VFO B window. But most of the time 
that window is displaying the VFO 'B' frequency.
Question is How do I remove the VFO 'B' frequency info and display ONLY the CW 
decoded info?

Phil
Santa Fe
Thanks
Listening for SOTA on 14.061
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[Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Erik Basilier
If it was a propagation anomaly, then maybe it was meteor shower
propagation. My astronomy friends have just been watching the Perseids.

 

 

73,

 

Erik K7TV

This is my second try to send this message, since the first didn't make it
to the list.

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[Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread Erik Basilier
I too support the request to add Ultimatic to Elecraft rigs. I don't have
the fine motor control of my fingers required to make use of iambic
features. I treat the dual paddles the same as a single paddle for the most
part. However, the dual paddle feels better than a single paddle, probably
because pressing one of the paddles gets a result after a movement of one
gap space, while a single paddle means the paddle travels two gap spacings
within a character. Given my way of using dual paddles, the keyer logic just
needs to be as forgiving as possible in handling the inconsistencies in my
finger motions. Years ago when I built the external keyer with Ultimatic
mode, I tried it and felt that it made my keying more consistent. At this
time I have almost zero time for ham radio, and haven't plugged in the
external keyer after returning from FD. When I get time, I should test my
maximum sending speed with vs without Ultimatic. I do know that just using
the K3's keyer, I start making excessive errors if I try to send faster than
about 25 wpm. Perhaps Ultimatic will let me go faster.

 

73,

Erik K7TV 



>Yes please, I've been waiting for this for a few years now!

73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)

--

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him.
-Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642)

 

On 11 Aug 2012, at 16:32, emann...@csc.uvic.ca wrote:

 

> I third the motion!

> 

> I have been building external boxes to provide Ultimatic keying mode 

> for about 25 years.

> 

> It would be VERY nice to have it internal to the K3/KX3...

> 

> Eric

> VA7DZ

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[Elecraft] Apple 30 pin

2012-08-12 Thread Clint
Guys,

I don't know if this got covered so here goes.
The Apple 30 pin connector has stereo line in and tons of other stuff. See: 
http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml (It is RU but safe)

Clint KI6SSN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/100 PA Removal

2012-08-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Removing the KPA3 module is a straightforward process and should not result
in *any* damage, Hi! The process is documented in a mod sheet describing a
very desirable change to the connectors in early K3s, but I can't find it on
the Elecraft web site. So look for a direct e-mail message; I'll attach it
for you. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

I have a K3 which I recently inherited.

Unknown to me at the time, it has no TX/RX on 160m. The Guys at Support led
to look for a possible fault in the Low Pass Filter area.
I believe that this is beneath the 100W PA unit on the main board.

What is the easiest/safest way to remove the PA unit without causing
unnecessary damage?
Also, is there a layout drawing of the main board?

Thanks Roger G0IUW
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[Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Erik Basilier
If it was a propagation anomaly, then maybe it was meteor shower
propagation. My astronomy friends have just been watching the Perseids.

 

73,

Erik K7TV

--

>Peter, I have operated 6 meter CW and I have not had a report of chirp.  I
have heard some signals that sound a bit strange because of propagation
anomalies.  I have no way of knowing if this is your problem, but recently
licensed hams have not heard the chirps that were common in the 50s and
earlier so do not assume that the reports are really valid.  Good luck!

 

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 

K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Peter Chamalian
Interesting.  I have them noted and will report to Elecraft when I speak
with them.

Pete, W1RM


-Original Message-
From: Vic K2VCO [mailto:k2vco@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:33 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; w...@arrl.net >> Peter Chamalian W1RM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

Pete,

The synthesizer issues were frequency-dependent. So if you were using
computer logging for the QSOs when you had the chirp reports, check back for
the precise frequency, and tell Elecraft.

On 8/12/2012 5:37 AM, Peter Chamalian wrote:
> If you have operated 6 meter CW and had a report of a chirp, I'd 
> appreciate hearing about it.
>
>
>
> I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for 
> service, but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there 
> is a mod for the synthesizer board and that was made without solving 
> the problem.  No, it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp 
> Astron provides 13.77 volts key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not 
> RF because when I got the report I reduced power (external amp off) 
> down to the point where the station could not copy me and the chirp was
still there.
>
>
>
> The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was 
> clean.  At a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other 
> from SC and I'm in central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had
been on 6 for a while.
>
>
>
> Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?
>
>
>
> Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of 
> a chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How 
> long had you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other 
> observation that might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Pete, W1RM

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[Elecraft] K3/100 PA Removal

2012-08-12 Thread reliant325

I have a K3 which I recently inherited.

Unknown to me at the time, it has no TX/RX on 160m. The Guys at Support led to 
look for a possible fault in the Low Pass Filter area.
I believe that this is beneath the 100W PA unit on the main board.

What is the easiest/safest way to remove the PA unit without causing 
unnecessary damage?
Also, is there a layout drawing of the main board?

Thanks Roger G0IUW
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread Vic K2VCO
If a 100w amplifier has to cost $800, then it is going to be difficult to 
market. Just my 
unsubstantiated gut feeling.

Personally, if I had a KX3 and wanted 100 watts when operating from my shack, I 
would 
throw something together from the junk box, probably with vacuum tubes. But 
that's just me :-)

On 8/12/2012 7:27 AM, Keith-K5ENS wrote:
> And you think the KXPA100 is going to sell for much less.  Internal unit KPA3
> is $500.  Look at the pix of the KXPA100 and I can see $200-300 to enclose
> it in that case.
>
> Keith, XE3/K5ENS


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Vic K2VCO
Pete,

The synthesizer issues were frequency-dependent. So if you were using computer 
logging for 
the QSOs when you had the chirp reports, check back for the precise frequency, 
and tell 
Elecraft.

On 8/12/2012 5:37 AM, Peter Chamalian wrote:
> If you have operated 6 meter CW and had a report of a chirp, I'd appreciate
> hearing about it.
>
>
>
> I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for service,
> but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there is a mod for
> the synthesizer board and that was made without solving the problem.  No,
> it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp Astron provides 13.77 volts
> key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not RF because when I got the report
> I reduced power (external amp off) down to the point where the station could
> not copy me and the chirp was still there.
>
>
>
> The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was clean.  At
> a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other from SC and I'm in
> central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had been on 6 for a while.
>
>
>
> Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?
>
>
>
> Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of a
> chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How long had
> you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other observation that
> might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Pete, W1RM

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Peter Chamalian
The voltage read by the internal K3 meter says the voltage drops to 12.6
volts which I reported to the tech's at Elecraft.  They did not think it
significant.  Also, the problem only has been reported on 6 meters.  I'm a
98% Cw operator so if there was a hint of a chirp on the HF bands, it would
have been brought to my attention by those I work regularly.

The power lead I use is the one supplied by Elecraft.

Pete, W1RM


-Original Message-
From: Adrian [mailto:vk4...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:04 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

Measuring voltdrop at the supply i.e. 13.77v to 13.74v is irrelevant. Please
tell us what it is at the APP connector or screen (load end) please?
 

I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for service,
but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there is a mod for
the synthesizer board and that was made without solving the problem.  No,
it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp Astron provides 13.77 volts
key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not RF because when I got the report
I reduced power (external amp off) down to the point where the station could
not copy me and the chirp was still there.

 

The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was clean.  At
a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other from SC and I'm in
central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had been on 6 for a while.

 

Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?

 

Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of a
chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How long had
you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other observation that
might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.

 

Thanks!

 

Pete, W1RM

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Peter Chamalian
Thanks for the thought, but no I didn't Brian.  I'm a 98% CW op (:->).
Besides, you can't key the rig if you're in ssb.

Pete, W1RM


-Original Message-
From: Brian Alsop [mailto:als...@nc.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:09 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

You didn't happen to be using CW in the SSB mode?   That is the K3's 
ability to allow you to be on SSB, hear a CW signal and call him without 
changing mode.   This practice is quite useful on 6M.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 8/12/2012 13:43, Peter Chamalian wrote:
> Thanks Cookie - the two hams who reported the chirp are long-time CW 
> operators who I've known for many years so I trust their feedback.  In 
> a separate case again the op reporting the chirp is a long-time CW op too.
>
>
>
> Could this be some anomaly of propagation?  That would be very odd indeed.
>
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
> Pete, W1RM
>
>
>
> From: WILLIS COOKE [mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:14 AM
> To: Peter Chamalian; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters
>
>
>
> Peter, I have operated 6 meter CW and I have not had a report of 
> chirp.  I have heard some signals that sound a bit strange because of 
> propagation anomalies.  I have no way of knowing if this is your 
> problem, but recently licensed hams have not heard the chirps that 
> were common in the 50s and earlier so do not assume that the reports are
really valid.  Good luck!
>
>
>
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ&  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
>
>_
>
> From: Peter Chamalian
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:37 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters
>
>
> If you have operated 6 meter CW and had a report of a chirp, I'd 
> appreciate hearing about it.
>
>
>
> I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for 
> service, but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there 
> is a mod for the synthesizer board and that was made without solving 
> the problem.  No, it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp 
> Astron provides 13.77 volts key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not 
> RF because when I got the report I reduced power (external amp off) 
> down to the point where the station could not copy me and the chirp was
still there.
>
>
>
> The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was 
> clean.  At a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other 
> from SC and I'm in central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had
been on 6 for a while.
>
>
>
> Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?
>
>
>
> Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of 
> a chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How 
> long had you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other 
> observation that might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Pete, W1RM
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [P3]

2012-08-12 Thread Mike
AHA! After a week, I see it...

Thanks Joe

Mike

On 8/12/12 10:21 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> On 8/12/2012 10:03 AM, Mike wrote:
>> Some how I now have a fixed line on the screen that looks like a
>> marker. In data mode it's just to the left of the cursor, in CW it's
>> in the cursor toward the right edge, and in SSB, it's on either the
>> right or left edge.
> That's the carrier frequency.
>
> 73,
>
>  ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 8/12/2012 10:03 AM, Mike wrote:
>> Some how I now have a fixed line on the screen that looks like a marker.
>> In data mode it's just to the left of the cursor, in CW it's in the
>> cursor toward the right edge, and in SSB, it's on either the right or
>> left edge.
>>
>> With Mkr A on, if I turn the knob on the P3, the freq increases going
>> right. If i turn the VFO A knob, the P3 freq decreases to the right. Normal?
>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

2012-08-12 Thread Keith-K5ENS
And you think the KXPA100 is going to sell for much less.  Internal unit KPA3
is $500.  Look at the pix of the KXPA100 and I can see $200-300 to enclose
it in that case.

Keith, XE3/K5ENS



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[Elecraft] NAQCC Sprint Tuesday night!

2012-08-12 Thread NAQCC
NAQCC Sprint Tuesday night!

Our August sprint is this coming Tuesday evening local time (August 14, EDT - 
8:30-10:30PM, CDT - 7:30-9:30PM, MDT - 6:30-8:30PM, PDT - 5:30-7:30PM), which 
translates as Wednesday August 15, 0030-0230Z in all cases.

I will refer you to the proper URL:

http://naqcc.info/sprint201208.html

There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and other important 
information.

Certificates: SWA (simple wire antennas) certificates by call area, VE and DX. 
A Certificate for top score in the GAIN antenna category. Finally there is one 
more award - a certificate to the highest score from a first-time participant.

Prizes: A prize of a set of bug/paddle handles or a K1/K2 knob insert donated 
by master woodworker Gregg WB8LZG is awarded for each sprint to the winner of a 
random drawing among all participants. Previous winners are not eligible.

This is a monthly event that caters to the CW veteran, the CW newcomer, 
straight key and bug fans. All are welcome to participate (this includes QRO); 
but you must use QRP power levels to compete for awards.

If you are not already a member of NAQCC... membership is FREE!  Now is your 
chance to join the largest QRP CW Club in the world!!  We currently have 6100+ 
members in: All 50 States - 9 VE Provinces - 90 Countries.  Just sign up on the 
NAQCC website (http://naqcc.info/) and you will receive a handsome certificate, 
with your membership number which is good for life.

Come join us and have a real good time!

72/73 de Dave VA3RJ
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Re: [Elecraft] [P3]

2012-08-12 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

On 8/12/2012 10:03 AM, Mike wrote:
> Some how I now have a fixed line on the screen that looks like a
> marker. In data mode it's just to the left of the cursor, in CW it's
> in the cursor toward the right edge, and in SSB, it's on either the
> right or left edge.

That's the carrier frequency.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 8/12/2012 10:03 AM, Mike wrote:
> Some how I now have a fixed line on the screen that looks like a marker.
> In data mode it's just to the left of the cursor, in CW it's in the
> cursor toward the right edge, and in SSB, it's on either the right or
> left edge.
>
> With Mkr A on, if I turn the knob on the P3, the freq increases going
> right. If i turn the VFO A knob, the P3 freq decreases to the right. Normal?
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and HDSDR

2012-08-12 Thread Ignacy
I found out that on my laptop the sound is configured as mono but can be
changed to stereo after quite a few configurations changes. 
Ignacy



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and EasyPal

2012-08-12 Thread David Moes
So I managed to figure it out

the problem is that EasyPal does not document this very well first off 
you need to enter the Cat Commands in HEX rather then plain text. 
The initial and exit strings are sent on start and end of 
transmission.The downfall here is when I return to recieveI 
the MD command defines upper or lower sidband . so I need two different  
sets of commands for 40m and down and 20 and up  I wish there was a 
way to set the K3 back to SSB to what ever sideband it was in before.



On 8/10/2012 8:57 PM, david Moes wrote:
> I have a question for any EasyPal users out there
>
> I am using my K3 to send digital images with EasyPal  with great success
> but Id like to simplify my world
>
> since many EasyPal  users talk about the images being sent between
> pictures I
> find that I have to manually change between DIGI-A and SSB manually before
> and after sending. sure I could send with the rig in SSB but this would
> not be
> good as it would include any EQ and signal processing I have set up for
> the mic.
> Id like to change modes automatically when I transmit images
>
> to do this could I use EasyPal CAT PTTIs there anyone that has done
> this
> successfully using.  The CAT setup menu in EasyPal has "Initial string"
> and "exit string".
> are these sent at the start of each transmission? or at the initial
> launch of
> easypal?  I was thinking of using this to send a mode change command at
> the start and end of each picture.   Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Dave
> VE3DVY
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Brian Alsop
You didn't happen to be using CW in the SSB mode?   That is the K3's 
ability to allow you to be on SSB, hear a CW signal and call him without 
changing mode.   This practice is quite useful on 6M.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 8/12/2012 13:43, Peter Chamalian wrote:
> Thanks Cookie - the two hams who reported the chirp are long-time CW
> operators who I've known for many years so I trust their feedback.  In a
> separate case again the op reporting the chirp is a long-time CW op too.
>
>
>
> Could this be some anomaly of propagation?  That would be very odd indeed.
>
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
> Pete, W1RM
>
>
>
> From: WILLIS COOKE [mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:14 AM
> To: Peter Chamalian; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters
>
>
>
> Peter, I have operated 6 meter CW and I have not had a report of chirp.  I
> have heard some signals that sound a bit strange because of propagation
> anomalies.  I have no way of knowing if this is your problem, but recently
> licensed hams have not heard the chirps that were common in the 50s and
> earlier so do not assume that the reports are really valid.  Good luck!
>
>
>
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ&  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
>
>_
>
> From: Peter Chamalian
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:37 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters
>
>
> If you have operated 6 meter CW and had a report of a chirp, I'd appreciate
> hearing about it.
>
>
>
> I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for service,
> but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there is a mod for
> the synthesizer board and that was made without solving the problem.  No,
> it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp Astron provides 13.77 volts
> key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not RF because when I got the report
> I reduced power (external amp off) down to the point where the station could
> not copy me and the chirp was still there.
>
>
>
> The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was clean.  At
> a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other from SC and I'm in
> central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had been on 6 for a while.
>
>
>
> Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?
>
>
>
> Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of a
> chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How long had
> you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other observation that
> might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Pete, W1RM
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Adrian
Measuring voltdrop at the supply i.e. 13.77v to 13.74v is irrelevant. Please
tell us what it is at the APP connector or screen (load end) please?
 

I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for service,
but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there is a mod for
the synthesizer board and that was made without solving the problem.  No,
it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp Astron provides 13.77 volts
key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not RF because when I got the report
I reduced power (external amp off) down to the point where the station could
not copy me and the chirp was still there.

 

The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was clean.  At
a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other from SC and I'm in
central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had been on 6 for a while.

 

Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?

 

Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of a
chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How long had
you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other observation that
might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.

 

Thanks!

 

Pete, W1RM

 

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[Elecraft] [P3]

2012-08-12 Thread Mike
Some how I now have a fixed line on the screen that looks like a marker. 
In data mode it's just to the left of the cursor, in CW it's in the 
cursor toward the right edge, and in SSB, it's on either the right or 
left edge.

With Mkr A on, if I turn the knob on the P3, the freq increases going 
right. If i turn the VFO A knob, the P3 freq decreases to the right. Normal?

73, Mike NF4L

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Peter Chamalian
Thanks Cookie - the two hams who reported the chirp are long-time CW
operators who I've known for many years so I trust their feedback.  In a
separate case again the op reporting the chirp is a long-time CW op too.

 

Could this be some anomaly of propagation?  That would be very odd indeed.

 

Thanks again!

 

Pete, W1RM

 

From: WILLIS COOKE [mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:14 AM
To: Peter Chamalian; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

 

Peter, I have operated 6 meter CW and I have not had a report of chirp.  I
have heard some signals that sound a bit strange because of propagation
anomalies.  I have no way of knowing if this is your problem, but recently
licensed hams have not heard the chirps that were common in the 50s and
earlier so do not assume that the reports are really valid.  Good luck!

 

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart

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From: Peter Chamalian 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:37 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters


If you have operated 6 meter CW and had a report of a chirp, I'd appreciate
hearing about it.  



I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for service,
but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there is a mod for
the synthesizer board and that was made without solving the problem.  No,
it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp Astron provides 13.77 volts
key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not RF because when I got the report
I reduced power (external amp off) down to the point where the station could
not copy me and the chirp was still there.



The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was clean.  At
a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other from SC and I'm in
central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had been on 6 for a while.



Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?



Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of a
chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How long had
you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other observation that
might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.



Thanks!



Pete, W1RM



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread WILLIS COOKE
Peter, I have operated 6 meter CW and I have not had a report of chirp.  I have 
heard some signals that sound a bit strange because of propagation anomalies.  
I have no way of knowing if this is your problem, but recently licensed hams 
have not heard the chirps that were common in the 50s and earlier so do not 
assume that the reports are really valid.  Good luck!
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



 From: Peter Chamalian 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:37 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters
 
If you have operated 6 meter CW and had a report of a chirp, I'd appreciate
hearing about it.  



I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for service,
but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there is a mod for
the synthesizer board and that was made without solving the problem.  No,
it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp Astron provides 13.77 volts
key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not RF because when I got the report
I reduced power (external amp off) down to the point where the station could
not copy me and the chirp was still there.



The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was clean.  At
a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other from SC and I'm in
central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had been on 6 for a while.



Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?



Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of a
chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How long had
you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other observation that
might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.



Thanks!



Pete, W1RM



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[Elecraft] K3 Chirp on 6 Meters

2012-08-12 Thread Peter Chamalian
If you have operated 6 meter CW and had a report of a chirp, I'd appreciate
hearing about it.  

 

I had several of them and my K3 is back at Elecraft right now for service,
but they are not able to reproduce the problem.  I know there is a mod for
the synthesizer board and that was made without solving the problem.  No,
it's not my power supply either - a big 50 amp Astron provides 13.77 volts
key up and 13.74 volts key down.  It's not RF because when I got the report
I reduced power (external amp off) down to the point where the station could
not copy me and the chirp was still there.

 

The strange thing is I had a local listen to my signal and it was clean.  At
a later time, two reports (one from eastern MA the other from SC and I'm in
central CT) said I had a chirp.  In both cases I had been on 6 for a while.

 

Is it frequency dependent?  Is it heat dependent?

 

Again, I would appreciate hearing from you if you have had reports of a
chirp on 6 meters - what frequency were you on at the time?  How long had
you been operating (was the rig getting warm?) or any other observation that
might help to pinpoint a way of duplicating the problem.

 

Thanks!

 

Pete, W1RM

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying

2012-08-12 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Yes please, I've been waiting for this for a few years now!
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
-- 
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from
him. -Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642)

On 11 Aug 2012, at 16:32, emann...@csc.uvic.ca wrote:

> I third the motion!
> 
> I have been building external boxes to provide Ultimatic keying mode for
> about 25 years.
> 
> It would be VERY nice to have it internal to
> the K3/KX3...
> 
> Eric
> VA7DZ
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY, RUMLog, CocoaModem

2012-08-12 Thread Rick Prather
Mike,

With the latest version of RUMlog (5.0.2) you can use either CCM alone, CCM for 
receive and the K3 (FSK-D) for transmit or the K3 (FSK-D) for both transmit and 
receive.

If you are using the K3 for transmit and receive you don't use VOX or need a 
separate  connection to the ACC socket.  You use the standard serial/USB 
connection.

The same is true of PSK-D.

If I am doing some serious ragchewing on PSK or RTTY then I use the CCM/K3 
mode.  If I want to make a quick DX or contest contact I use the K3/K3 mode.

Works slick and no fooling around with audio connections.

Rick
K6LE

On 8/12/2012, at 2:20 , Mike  wrote:

> Thanks, John -
> 
> If  I RTM correctly, that scheme requires a serial cable with level 
> converter to the ACC connector, and no, you can't do PSK that way. Is 
> this what you mean?
> 
> My intent is to not have to use VOX with AFSK, because I really really 
> really don't like VOX on phone. If we had the capability to set VOX for 
> DATA AFSK seperate from phone..
> 
> Mike NF4L
> 
> On 8/11/12 11:26 PM, John_N1JM wrote:
>> The simple answer is yes for rtty(FSK-D)  and you do it with one com port for
>> ptt and rtty keying and no other interface. I have not tried it with PSK.
>> 
>> John N1JM
>> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Frequency range.

2012-08-12 Thread Don Baucom
Stan,
I went with the smaller range. As you pick up speed, you will find yourself
migrating to the lower portion of the band. Once you hit 20wpm, a couple of
8 wpm QSO's will use up all of your alloted shack time ( I assume your
married). SOTA usually is not above .061 so your ok there. I have not tuned
a K1 with the 150 spread, but mine is a joy to tune with the 80. very nice
and spread out.

73
K4YND




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY, RUMLog, CocoaModem

2012-08-12 Thread Mike
Thanks, John -

If  I RTM correctly, that scheme requires a serial cable with level 
converter to the ACC connector, and no, you can't do PSK that way. Is 
this what you mean?

My intent is to not have to use VOX with AFSK, because I really really 
really don't like VOX on phone. If we had the capability to set VOX for 
DATA AFSK seperate from phone..

Mike NF4L

On 8/11/12 11:26 PM, John_N1JM wrote:
> The simple answer is yes for rtty(FSK-D)  and you do it with one com port for
> ptt and rtty keying and no other interface. I have not tried it with PSK.
>
> John N1JM
>
>
> Mike-14-3 wrote
>> Is it possible to configure the RUMLog/CocoaModem combo to transmit RTTY
>> and PSK without using VOX or an interface? (DATA - AFSK A)
>>
>> If someone has actually done it, I'd really like to pick your brains.
>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
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