Re: [Elecraft] problems connecting HRD to kx3

2013-03-19 Thread Anthony Marriott
Michael
Make sure you have the baud rate set right.  My KX3 uses 38400.
Paul
AF5BV

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On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:08 PM, ke6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 
 
 I upgraded to HRD V6 and the KX3 has it’s own option there. Works well for 
 me. I’m currently running the 30 day demo mode for HRD 6, but it’s worked 
 well especially with the KX3 so I plan on forking out the money when the demo 
 expires. 
 
 
 
 73,
 
 Steve KE6GDA 
 
 
 
 Sent from Windows Mail
 
 
 From: k3...@comcast.net
 Sent: ‎March‎ ‎18‎, ‎2013 ‎1‎:‎03‎ ‎PM
 To: Matthew Zilmer
 CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Michael Mardis
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] problems connecting HRD to kx3
 
 
 I've used the K3 setup for mine. It works. 
 
 73, 
 Barry 
 K3NDM 
 
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 From: Matthew Zilmer mzil...@magellangps.com 
 To: Michael Mardis mikejmar...@aol.com, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:00:50 PM 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] problems connecting HRD to kx3 
 
 Try using Kenwood too. 
 
 Matt Zilmer 
 W6NIA 
 
 
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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Michael Mardis 
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:38 AM 
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Subject: [Elecraft] problems connecting HRD to kx3 
 
 
 I cant seem to get HRD to connect to the kx3. I did it last night under the 
 k2 preset on the software last night. I haven't been able to do it again. 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 mods by I7SWX

2013-03-19 Thread Fred Smith
I guess that I misread that post also, not what I got out of it.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ

K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Clarke
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 mods by I7SWX

Mods on paper and needs a K3 to test them on? Really?

Perhaps I read the message incorrectly?

Bill W2BLC




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[Elecraft] K3 Power out jumps on power change

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon LaPoint
Hi,
I'm having problems with my K3-100 with power out.  If Power is 12 watts or 
less 
(100W pa not in use) and I adjust the power out then the power goes to the new 
level with 
no problem, as long as power requested is less than 12 watts.

When using the 100Watt PA if power is adjusted it will cause power to jump to 
110 watts 
for a second or less, then go to the requested power. This causes my KPA500 to 
fault.
The problem is occuring with either the power knob or software from the 
computer.

After the power stablizes at the new level then it is fine untill I change 
power again.  

This occurs in any mode.  Any clues that can help me fix this?  
SN is 5651, I built the K3 in August of 2011, it worked fine untill the last 
month.

Thank you,
Gordon - N1MGO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out jumps on power change

2013-03-19 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Gordon,

Hopefully it is a simple calibration problem. Redo the Calibrate Transmitter
Gain from the K3 Utility program Calibration tab. If you still have problems
you may need to touch up the results as directed at the top of page 62 of
the K3 manual. Be sure to check every band. Typically the problems will only
occur on one or two bands. If you have difficulty with these manual
adjustments come back with questions and those that have performed the
adjustments will help guide you through.

73,
Mike K2MK



Gordon LaPoint wrote
 Hi,
 I'm having problems with my K3-100 with power out.  If Power is 12
 watts or less 
 (100W pa not in use) and I adjust the power out then the power goes to the
 new level with 
 no problem, as long as power requested is less than 12 watts.
 
 When using the 100Watt PA if power is adjusted it will cause power to jump
 to 110 watts 
 for a second or less, then go to the requested power. This causes my
 KPA500 to fault.
 The problem is occuring with either the power knob or software from the
 computer.
 
 After the power stablizes at the new level then it is fine untill I change
 power again.  
 
 This occurs in any mode.  Any clues that can help me fix this?  
 SN is 5651, I built the K3 in August of 2011, it worked fine untill the
 last month.
 
 Thank you,
 Gordon - N1MGO





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Re: [Elecraft] OT: great deal on netbook

2013-03-19 Thread Rick Robinson
Thanks for the tip. For that price I will make a trip to see if one is
available. I think to list good deals on Amateur radio accessories would be
appropriate, especially since computers are as common as a key or mic in
the hamshack or field. Thanks, Rick.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Harlan hsherr...@reagan.com wrote:


 Don't know if this is appropriate...
  Best Buy in my area have limited numbers of ACER Aspire One netbooks:
 Win7
 2 GB memory
 320 GB hard drive
 Li-ion battery

 $119.95

 The two stores I went to didn't even know they had them until I gave them
 the UPC number. They looked on their computer and found them for me... hi hi
 UPC is 8 86541 59373 3

 Great price if you need a small computer
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[Elecraft] K3 mods by I7SWX

2013-03-19 Thread Giancarlo Moda


Hi Fred and Bill,

mods on paper?  I was talking about the possibble mods I studied to replace 
the second mixer (SA612), that are still on paper but we have two volunteers to 
let me try and see if they will be valid or not.

The other mods have been applied on several K3 world wide.

73

Gian
I7SWX


Message: 33
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 04:49:20 -0500
From: Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com
To: 'Bill Clarke' b...@w2blc.net,    elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 mods by I7SWX
Message-ID: 004501ce2487$0811eb20$1835c160$@com
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=US-ASCII

I guess that I misread that post also, not what I got out of it.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ

K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Clarke
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 mods by I7SWX

Mods on paper and needs a K3 to test them on? Really?

Perhaps I read the message incorrectly?

Bill W2BLC
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[Elecraft] OT--RFI Issue

2013-03-19 Thread John Fritze
Make sure ALL of his cable drops are terminated at a piece of equipment or
are capped with a 70 ohm resister.  Any open ends of cable act as an
antenna.  This is the most common offender!   Make sure all splits go
through a cable splitter of correct impedance.  Make sure all cable
splitters are turned the correct direction. Time Warner installed one
backwards in my house causing poor TV reception.  Lastly, your cable
company has the option to up the signal strength at individual houses.
 Perhaps your neighbor's level is so low as to be a problem.

When I had my house remodeled several years ago the electrician thought is
was OK to simply twist the cable center conductors and shields together and
put wire nuts on them.  He did this in several spots.  Needless to say he
got an earful from me.

-- 
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K2QY
AARA president 2013
ACACES secretary 2013
Albany County RACES Radio Officer
ARES ENY DEC Northern District
ARES Albany County EC
Hudson Div. Asst. Director
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Re: [Elecraft] OT--RFI Issue

2013-03-19 Thread Brian Alsop

These kind of installation problems are not rare.

TWC did the original installation here.

A few years later while troubleshooting a low signal problem they found:
1)Several corroded connectors from the street to the house
2)An extra unterminated splitter in their house mounted box.
3)Replaced an F connector in the wall plate fixture for the cable modem.
4)Replaced the cable modem.

A few weeks later they had to come out to replace the modem in (4) that 
was a huge source of RFI.  (Switching supply I believe).  New modem was 
quiet.  I'm sure the replaced modem will end up in somebody else's house.


73 de Brian/K3KO


On 3/19/2013 13:18, John Fritze wrote:

Make sure ALL of his cable drops are terminated at a piece of equipment or
are capped with a 70 ohm resister.  Any open ends of cable act as an
antenna.  This is the most common offender!   Make sure all splits go
through a cable splitter of correct impedance.  Make sure all cable
splitters are turned the correct direction. Time Warner installed one
backwards in my house causing poor TV reception.  Lastly, your cable
company has the option to up the signal strength at individual houses.
  Perhaps your neighbor's level is so low as to be a problem.

When I had my house remodeled several years ago the electrician thought is
was OK to simply twist the cable center conductors and shields together and
put wire nuts on them.  He did this in several spots.  Needless to say he
got an earful from me.





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Re: [Elecraft] OT: great deal on netbook

2013-03-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


Note that this is a Chromebook - it ships with the Google Chrome
operating system.  That may be a problem with applications if one
can't convert them to Windows.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/19/2013 8:56 AM, Rick Robinson wrote:

Thanks for the tip. For that price I will make a trip to see if one is
available. I think to list good deals on Amateur radio accessories would be
appropriate, especially since computers are as common as a key or mic in
the hamshack or field. Thanks, Rick.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Harlan hsherr...@reagan.com wrote:



Don't know if this is appropriate...
  Best Buy in my area have limited numbers of ACER Aspire One netbooks:
Win7
2 GB memory
320 GB hard drive
Li-ion battery

$119.95

The two stores I went to didn't even know they had them until I gave them
the UPC number. They looked on their computer and found them for me... hi hi
UPC is 8 86541 59373 3

Great price if you need a small computer
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: great deal on netbook

2013-03-19 Thread Harlan
No Joe. This has Win7 op system... not a chrome machine

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


Note that this is a Chromebook - it ships with the Google Chrome
operating system.  That may be a problem with applications if one
can't convert them to Windows.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/19/2013 8:56 AM, Rick Robinson wrote:
 Thanks for the tip. For that price I will make a trip to see if one is
 available. I think to list good deals on Amateur radio accessories would be
 appropriate, especially since computers are as common as a key or mic in
 the hamshack or field. Thanks, Rick.

 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Harlan hsherr...@reagan.com wrote:


 Don't know if this is appropriate...
   Best Buy in my area have limited numbers of ACER Aspire One netbooks:
 Win7
 2 GB memory
 320 GB hard drive
 Li-ion battery

 $119.95

 The two stores I went to didn't even know they had them until I gave them
 the UPC number. They looked on their computer and found them for me... hi hi
 UPC is 8 86541 59373 3

 Great price if you need a small computer
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: great deal on netbook

2013-03-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


Best Buy online shows it as Chromebook (Chrome operating system):
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Acer+-+11.6%26%2334%3B+Chromebook+-+2GB+Memory+-+320GB+Hard+Drive+-+Iron+Gray/7098526.p?id=1218829108571skuId=7098526 



It still might be a good deal if one has an external CD/DVD and
can wipe the system to install Windows 7.  Lacking that, they
also show several 11 class Windows systems less than $350.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/19/2013 9:38 AM, Harlan wrote:

No Joe. This has Win7 op system... not a chrome machine

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:



Note that this is a Chromebook - it ships with the Google Chrome
operating system.  That may be a problem with applications if one
can't convert them to Windows.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/19/2013 8:56 AM, Rick Robinson wrote:

Thanks for the tip. For that price I will make a trip to see if one is
available. I think to list good deals on Amateur radio accessories would be
appropriate, especially since computers are as common as a key or mic in
the hamshack or field. Thanks, Rick.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Harlan hsherr...@reagan.com wrote:



Don't know if this is appropriate...
   Best Buy in my area have limited numbers of ACER Aspire One netbooks:
Win7
2 GB memory
320 GB hard drive
Li-ion battery

$119.95

The two stores I went to didn't even know they had them until I gave them
the UPC number. They looked on their computer and found them for me... hi hi
UPC is 8 86541 59373 3

Great price if you need a small computer
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: great deal on netbook

2013-03-19 Thread Harlan
Sorry Joe but that isn't the same one. This one is model 756-2899. It comes 
with Win7 home premium installed. 

Harlan
NC3C

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Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


Best Buy online shows it as Chromebook (Chrome operating system):
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Acer+-+11.6%26%2334%3B+Chromebook+-+2GB+Memory+-+320GB+Hard+Drive+-+Iron+Gray/7098526.p?id=1218829108571skuId=7098526
 


It still might be a good deal if one has an external CD/DVD and
can wipe the system to install Windows 7.  Lacking that, they
also show several 11 class Windows systems less than $350.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/19/2013 9:38 AM, Harlan wrote:
 No Joe. This has Win7 op system... not a chrome machine

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

 Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 Note that this is a Chromebook - it ships with the Google Chrome
 operating system.  That may be a problem with applications if one
 can't convert them to Windows.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


 On 3/19/2013 8:56 AM, Rick Robinson wrote:
 Thanks for the tip. For that price I will make a trip to see if one is
 available. I think to list good deals on Amateur radio accessories would be
 appropriate, especially since computers are as common as a key or mic in
 the hamshack or field. Thanks, Rick.

 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Harlan hsherr...@reagan.com wrote:


 Don't know if this is appropriate...
Best Buy in my area have limited numbers of ACER Aspire One netbooks:
 Win7
 2 GB memory
 320 GB hard drive
 Li-ion battery

 $119.95

 The two stores I went to didn't even know they had them until I gave them
 the UPC number. They looked on their computer and found them for me... hi 
 hi
 UPC is 8 86541 59373 3

 Great price if you need a small computer
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[Elecraft] [K3] Possible remedy for my noisy K3 and hiss?

2013-03-19 Thread Mike Rodgers
I'm in the early stages of trying this out but thought I'd share in interest of 
helping someone else. 

I've been using AGC threshold 10. 
Im always fiddling with attenuator and rf gain. 

I was listening to some activity on 20  40 and began playing with agc 
settings. 
I ended up at a threshold that is totally not what I suspected to like. 2. 
You've got to be kidding,right,2?

The downside is this can really decrease volume available especially with NR. 
I've just been using this a night and morning but one thing is apparent, I'm 
not constantly fiddling with attenuator and rf gain anymore. 
Threshold 2 slope 5-10. 
Noise level s5 on 20m. 

I also picked up a GAP/BHI speaker and like the NR. It doesn't reduce volume as 
much. The best K3 match I found is NR F8-2 or 3. I really don't wish to use NR. 

The hiss I've been complaining about with hi cut above 2.4 or 2.5 is 
drastically reduced also. I don't like 3.0 but 2.8 is pretty good. 

I've got to spend more time in the saddle with these settings but I'm putting 
this out there for anyone else having pains with noise/rf gain.

Once again bottom line: I'm not constantly fiddling with attenuator and rf gain 
with threshold 2.

73
Mike R

Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF  Echolink mobile
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: great deal on netbook

2013-03-19 Thread hsherriff
I can't find it on the Best Buy website, but here is a description at the acer 
website.

http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NU.SGYAA.003


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Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:02am
To: Harlan hsherr...@reagan.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: great deal on netbook


Best Buy online shows it as Chromebook (Chrome operating system):
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Acer+-+11.6%26%2334%3B+Chromebook+-+2GB+Memory+-+320GB+Hard+Drive+-+Iron+Gray/7098526.p?id=1218829108571skuId=7098526
 


It still might be a good deal if one has an external CD/DVD and
can wipe the system to install Windows 7.  Lacking that, they
also show several 11 class Windows systems less than $350.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/19/2013 9:38 AM, Harlan wrote:
 No Joe. This has Win7 op system... not a chrome machine

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

 Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 Note that this is a Chromebook - it ships with the Google Chrome
 operating system.  That may be a problem with applications if one
 can't convert them to Windows.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


 On 3/19/2013 8:56 AM, Rick Robinson wrote:
 Thanks for the tip. For that price I will make a trip to see if one is
 available. I think to list good deals on Amateur radio accessories would be
 appropriate, especially since computers are as common as a key or mic in
 the hamshack or field. Thanks, Rick.

 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Harlan hsherr...@reagan.com wrote:


 Don't know if this is appropriate...
Best Buy in my area have limited numbers of ACER Aspire One netbooks:
 Win7
 2 GB memory
 320 GB hard drive
 Li-ion battery

 $119.95

 The two stores I went to didn't even know they had them until I gave them
 the UPC number. They looked on their computer and found them for me... hi 
 hi
 UPC is 8 86541 59373 3

 Great price if you need a small computer
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Possible remedy for my noisy K3 and hiss?

2013-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

With that low a threshold setting, I suspect that you evaluated that 
setting with noise alone rather than how much noise is heard between 
breaks in the signal.


Review the Noisy K3 article on my website www.w3fpr.com paying 
particular attention to the 'Caution' note in the AGC THR section.


That article will give you guidance on what the effects of the changes 
will be so you can evaluate each separately.

Do the evaluation with any external NR speaker bypassed or removed.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/19/2013 10:53 AM, Mike Rodgers wrote:

I'm in the early stages of trying this out but thought I'd share in interest of 
helping someone else.

I've been using AGC threshold 10.
Im always fiddling with attenuator and rf gain.

I was listening to some activity on 20  40 and began playing with agc settings.
I ended up at a threshold that is totally not what I suspected to like. 2. 
You've got to be kidding,right,2?

The downside is this can really decrease volume available especially with NR. 
I've just been using this a night and morning but one thing is apparent, I'm 
not constantly fiddling with attenuator and rf gain anymore.
Threshold 2 slope 5-10.
Noise level s5 on 20m.

I also picked up a GAP/BHI speaker and like the NR. It doesn't reduce volume as 
much. The best K3 match I found is NR F8-2 or 3. I really don't wish to use NR.



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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] [K3] Possible remedy for my noisy K3 and hiss?

2013-03-19 Thread Richard Fjeld
Have you tried Rx equalization to reduce the hiss?


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  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Cc: elecraft...@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:53 AM
  Subject: [Elecraft_K3] [K3] Possible remedy for my noisy K3 and hiss?



  I'm in the early stages of trying this out but thought I'd share in interest 
of helping someone else. 

  I've been using AGC threshold 10. 
  Im always fiddling with attenuator and rf gain. 

  I was listening to some activity on 20  40 and began playing with agc 
settings. 
  I ended up at a threshold that is totally not what I suspected to like. 2. 
You've got to be kidding,right,2?

  The downside is this can really decrease volume available especially with NR. 
I've just been using this a night and morning but one thing is apparent, I'm 
not constantly fiddling with attenuator and rf gain anymore. 
  Threshold 2 slope 5-10. 
  Noise level s5 on 20m. 

  I also picked up a GAP/BHI speaker and like the NR. It doesn't reduce volume 
as much. The best K3 match I found is NR F8-2 or 3. I really don't wish to use 
NR. 

  The hiss I've been complaining about with hi cut above 2.4 or 2.5 is 
drastically reduced also. I don't like 3.0 but 2.8 is pretty good. 

  I've got to spend more time in the saddle with these settings but I'm putting 
this out there for anyone else having pains with noise/rf gain.

  Once again bottom line: I'm not constantly fiddling with attenuator and rf 
gain with threshold 2.

  73
  Mike R

  Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

  Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: [K3] Possible remedy for my noisy K3 and hiss?

2013-03-19 Thread Mike Rodgers
Hi Don,

Not so. I made the adjustments while listening to qso's in progress. I guess I 
didn't make that clear. Not strong ones that block all the noise but medium 
ones. This may come down to operator preference but it's something to try. 

And the tell all as I said is I'm no longer constantly fiddling with attenuator 
and rf gain to try to get something I like. 

73
Mike R

Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF  Echolink mobile

On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Mike,
 
 With that low a threshold setting, I suspect that you evaluated that 
 setting with noise alone rather than how much noise is heard between 
 breaks in the signal.
 
 Review the Noisy K3 article on my website www.w3fpr.com paying 
 particular attention to the 'Caution' note in the AGC THR section.
 
 That article will give you guidance on what the effects of the changes 
 will be so you can evaluate each separately.
 Do the evaluation with any external NR speaker bypassed or removed.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 3/19/2013 10:53 AM, Mike Rodgers wrote:
  I'm in the early stages of trying this out but thought I'd share in 
  interest of helping someone else.
 
  I've been using AGC threshold 10.
  Im always fiddling with attenuator and rf gain.
 
  I was listening to some activity on 20  40 and began playing with agc 
  settings.
  I ended up at a threshold that is totally not what I suspected to like. 2. 
  You've got to be kidding,right,2?
 
  The downside is this can really decrease volume available especially with 
  NR. I've just been using this a night and morning but one thing is 
  apparent, I'm not constantly fiddling with attenuator and rf gain anymore.
  Threshold 2 slope 5-10.
  Noise level s5 on 20m.
 
  I also picked up a GAP/BHI speaker and like the NR. It doesn't reduce 
  volume as much. The best K3 match I found is NR F8-2 or 3. I really don't 
  wish to use NR.
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: [K3] Possible remedy for my noisy K3 and hiss?

2013-03-19 Thread Keith-K5ENS
Caution:

A caution about evaluation of the effects of the change - please listen to
the noise level that appears during breaks while listening to a signal.  If
you listen to only the noise level with no signals present, you will find
that the noise level decreases as you lower the threshold setting.  This is
a false perception.  What is actually happening is that you are reducing the
level where the AGC response begins, and since the noise is now producing
AGC action, the noise will reduce the gain of the receiver, giving the
appearance that the noise level is being reduced, when in fact, just the
opposite will happen when listening in the presence of signals on the band.


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Re: [Elecraft] OT--RFI Issue

2013-03-19 Thread Phil Kane
On 3/18/2013 8:36 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 This is reminiscent of the old days of TVI.
 One of the guidelines back then was - avoid making any changes to that 
 neighbor's system by yourself.  If you do, you may be responsible for 
 any future strange happenings.
 Your position should be to offer to assist a qualified technician in 
 isolating and correcting any deficiencies by providing periods of 
 operating to test the results of any repairs.

Don's reply is right on target today as it was 50 years ago when I first
got into the RFI-chasing business.  I give that advice to all hams who
come to me on ARRL-referral and also remind them (us?) to ensure that
the station and its signals meet FCC requirements.

In my experience, the type of TVI/RFI/Audio rectification being
described is not due to a dirty signal but is a result of unwanted
reaction to the actual (main) signal itself and the cure lies with
the affected installation, not with the radio station..  This is one of
the hardest things to sell to the affected party.

Although we operate in the public interest, too many hams want to be
Mister Fixit which with today's state of consumer electronics is not
only a dangerous thing to attempt in terms of future liability but also
a hopeless task.  How does one put a toroid around a circuit board
trace?  G

My 2 cents'  worth.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

ARRL Volunteer Counsel
ARRL Volunteer Consulting Engineer
(FCC San Francisco District Director - retired)

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[Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Microphone to K3

2013-03-19 Thread pastormg2
Good Afternoon, my name is Mark Griffin and my call is KB3Z.  I have used a 
Kenwood MC-60 microphone ever since I purchased my K3 four years ago.  I would 
like to connect the microphone to a boom assembly, but trying to find a 
microphone cable that would be long enough to connect to the K3 and then to the 
front of the boom might be difficult. I tried Heil, but Jerry Lynch gave me no 
help whatsoever. Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes microphone 
cables?  Thanks!!  Mark KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Microphone to K3

2013-03-19 Thread Mike WA8BXN
Hi Mark, 
 
I'm not sure exactly what you have to work with and what you want to do. I
don't have an MC-60 but did some searching for information on it. Seems one
kind has the microphone hard wired to the base, so it doesn't seem like that
one would work easily with a boom. Another variation says you can use the
microphone with out the base, just use the coiled cord as an extension for
the microphone cable on the mic. If you search for 8 pin microphone
extension you will find many products available, both coiled and straight
cords. 
73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: pastor...@verizon.net 
Date: 3/19/2013 12:54:57 PM 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Microphone to K3 
 
Good Afternoon, my name is Mark Griffin and my call is KB3Z. I have used a 
Kenwood MC-60 microphone ever since I purchased my K3 four years ago. I would 
like to connect the microphone to a boom assembly, but trying to find a 
microphone cable that would be long enough to connect to the K3 and then to the 
front of the boom might be difficult. I tried Heil, but Jerry Lynch gave me no 
help whatsoever. Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes microphone 
cables? Thanks!! Mark KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Microphone to K3

2013-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mark,

If you need microphone cable with 3 pin XLR connectors, then most any 
pro audio shop will have cable assemblies.
OTOH, if you want a long mic cable for ham use (with Foster connectors), 
I do not know of a source for assembled cables.


If you are capable or wiring your own cable, Universal Radio 
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/index2.html has the connectors 
and microphone cable so you can build your own.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/19/2013 12:54 PM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote:

Good Afternoon, my name is Mark Griffin and my call is KB3Z.  I have used a 
Kenwood MC-60 microphone ever since I purchased my K3 four years ago.  I would 
like to connect the microphone to a boom assembly, but trying to find a 
microphone cable that would be long enough to connect to the K3 and then to the 
front of the boom might be difficult. I tried Heil, but Jerry Lynch gave me no 
help whatsoever. Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes microphone 
cables?  Thanks!!  Mark KB3Z



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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Microphone to K3

2013-03-19 Thread hawley, charles j jr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JETSTREAM-MICROPHONE-MIC-EXTENSION-CABLE-8PIN-ROUND-YAESU-ICOM-KENWOOD-JTMEXR-/400303016988

Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)

On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Mike WA8BXN hubb...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mark, 
 
 I'm not sure exactly what you have to work with and what you want to do. I
 don't have an MC-60 but did some searching for information on it. Seems one
 kind has the microphone hard wired to the base, so it doesn't seem like that
 one would work easily with a boom. Another variation says you can use the
 microphone with out the base, just use the coiled cord as an extension for
 the microphone cable on the mic. If you search for 8 pin microphone
 extension you will find many products available, both coiled and straight
 cords. 
 73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
 
 
 ---Original Message--- 
 
 From: pastor...@verizon.net 
 Date: 3/19/2013 12:54:57 PM 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Subject: [Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Microphone to K3 
 
 Good Afternoon, my name is Mark Griffin and my call is KB3Z. I have used a 
 Kenwood MC-60 microphone ever since I purchased my K3 four years ago. I would 
 like to connect the microphone to a boom assembly, but trying to find a 
 microphone cable that would be long enough to connect to the K3 and then to 
 the front of the boom might be difficult. I tried Heil, but Jerry Lynch gave 
 me no help whatsoever. Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes 
 microphone cables? Thanks!! Mark KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Microphone to K3

2013-03-19 Thread hawley, charles j jr
http://www.amazon.com/coiled-CB-Radio-Kenwood-Extension/dp/B009N5QYV2

Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)

On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:30 PM, hawley, charles j jr c-haw...@illinois.edu 
wrote:

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/JETSTREAM-MICROPHONE-MIC-EXTENSION-CABLE-8PIN-ROUND-YAESU-ICOM-KENWOOD-JTMEXR-/400303016988
 
 Sent from my iPad
 Chuck, KE9UW 
 (Jack for BMW motorcycles)
 
 On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Mike WA8BXN hubb...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mark, 
 
 I'm not sure exactly what you have to work with and what you want to do. I
 don't have an MC-60 but did some searching for information on it. Seems one
 kind has the microphone hard wired to the base, so it doesn't seem like that
 one would work easily with a boom. Another variation says you can use the
 microphone with out the base, just use the coiled cord as an extension for
 the microphone cable on the mic. If you search for 8 pin microphone
 extension you will find many products available, both coiled and straight
 cords. 
 73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
 
 
 ---Original Message--- 
 
 From: pastor...@verizon.net 
 Date: 3/19/2013 12:54:57 PM 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Subject: [Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Microphone to K3 
 
 Good Afternoon, my name is Mark Griffin and my call is KB3Z. I have used a 
 Kenwood MC-60 microphone ever since I purchased my K3 four years ago. I 
 would like to connect the microphone to a boom assembly, but trying to find 
 a microphone cable that would be long enough to connect to the K3 and then 
 to the front of the boom might be difficult. I tried Heil, but Jerry Lynch 
 gave me no help whatsoever. Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes 
 microphone cables? Thanks!! Mark KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Microphone to K3

2013-03-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


The Kenwood MC-60/60A Instruction Manual shows that the MC-60
mic element has an 8 pin connector on the back wired identically
to the typical Kenwood/Elecraft transceiver (mic on 1/7, switch
on 2/8).

For use on a boom one typically does not want a coiled cord.  I would
recommend picking up 6 to 10 feet (depending on your boom and rig
placement) of Heilwire which contains one shielded pair of wires
and one unshielded pair of wires and two 8 pin mic plugs to make your
own cable.  The shielded pair should be on pins 1/7 (mic) and the
unshielded pair on pins 2/8 (PTT) with the shield folded back/connected
to the *shell* of the connectors.

If you don't need the switch, any shielded twisted pair cable will work
just fine with the twisted pair connected to pins 1/7 and the shield
connected to pin 8.  A length of CA5/CAT6 cable also works - use one of
the four twisted pairs for pins 1/7 and another of the twisted pairs
for pins 2/8.

Finally, if you prefer to connect the mic to the K3's rear panel,
a good quality twisted pair cable connected to pins 1/7 on the mic
and tip/sleeve of a 3.5mm plug will work just fine.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/19/2013 1:26 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Mark,

If you need microphone cable with 3 pin XLR connectors, then most any
pro audio shop will have cable assemblies.
OTOH, if you want a long mic cable for ham use (with Foster connectors),
I do not know of a source for assembled cables.

If you are capable or wiring your own cable, Universal Radio
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/index2.html has the connectors
and microphone cable so you can build your own.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/19/2013 12:54 PM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote:

Good Afternoon, my name is Mark Griffin and my call is KB3Z.  I have
used a Kenwood MC-60 microphone ever since I purchased my K3 four
years ago.  I would like to connect the microphone to a boom assembly,
but trying to find a microphone cable that would be long enough to
connect to the K3 and then to the front of the boom might be
difficult. I tried Heil, but Jerry Lynch gave me no help whatsoever.
Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes microphone cables?
Thanks!!  Mark KB3Z



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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] [K3] Possible remedy for my noisy K3 and hiss?

2013-03-19 Thread Mike Rodgers
Yes. 

73
Mike R

Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF  Echolink mobile

On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Richard Fjeld rpfj...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried Rx equalization to reduce the hiss?
  
  
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 From: Mike Rodgers
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Cc: elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:53 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft_K3] [K3] Possible remedy for my noisy K3 and hiss?
 
  
 I'm in the early stages of trying this out but thought I'd share in interest 
 of helping someone else. 
 
 I've been using AGC threshold 10. 
 Im always fiddling with attenuator and rf gain. 
 
 I was listening to some activity on 20  40 and began playing with agc 
 settings. 
 I ended up at a threshold that is totally not what I suspected to like. 2. 
 You've got to be kidding,right,2?
 
 The downside is this can really decrease volume available especially with NR. 
 I've just been using this a night and morning but one thing is apparent, I'm 
 not constantly fiddling with attenuator and rf gain anymore. 
 Threshold 2 slope 5-10. 
 Noise level s5 on 20m. 
 
 I also picked up a GAP/BHI speaker and like the NR. It doesn't reduce volume 
 as much. The best K3 match I found is NR F8-2 or 3. I really don't wish to 
 use NR. 
 
 The hiss I've been complaining about with hi cut above 2.4 or 2.5 is 
 drastically reduced also. I don't like 3.0 but 2.8 is pretty good. 
 
 I've got to spend more time in the saddle with these settings but I'm putting 
 this out there for anyone else having pains with noise/rf gain.
 
 Once again bottom line: I'm not constantly fiddling with attenuator and rf 
 gain with threshold 2.
 
 73
 Mike R
 
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[Elecraft] ErrTXF using FM on 10m

2013-03-19 Thread tomb18
Hi,

I decided to try out some FM on 10m and when I start to transmit, I get a
brief signal then the ERR TXF. My filters are set up for FL1 receive and
transmit.  I hear fine.  Any ideas?
Oh, and how do I respond to the list instead of the emails I receive?
Thanks, Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] ErrTXF using FM on 10m

2013-03-19 Thread Greg
Do you have the 13 kHz FM filter installed in slot one?  It has to be
set as the TX filter for FM.

73
Greg


On 3/19/13, tomb18 tom...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Hi,

 I decided to try out some FM on 10m and when I start to transmit, I get a
 brief signal then the ERR TXF. My filters are set up for FL1 receive and
 transmit.  I hear fine.  Any ideas?
 Oh, and how do I respond to the list instead of the emails I receive?
 Thanks, Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] ErrTXF using FM on 10m

2013-03-19 Thread tomb18
Yes, the filter is installed in FL1.



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Re: [Elecraft] ErrTXF using FM on 10m

2013-03-19 Thread Dick Dievendorff
If you use the K3 Utility's Filter Configuration dialog, have you identified
the filter in FL1 as having 13 kHz bandwidth, enabled for FM Tx and Rx?

73 de Dick, K6KR


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Yes, the filter is installed in FL1.



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Stan AE7UT
Travis I was in your same situation and understand what your experiencing.
I got my KX3 first and was blown away by how quiet and sensitive it was.
The KX3 was so impressive I sold my entire Ten-Ten station and built a K3.

I was disappointed that the K3 receiver didn't seem to be as good as the
KX3.
I finally broke down and bought the XG3 signal generator and did all the
calibrations.  That has made the world of difference... but I still like the
KX3
receiver more.  I also read and implimented Don's Noisy K3 article.  The
K3
still doesn't seem as quiet and sensitive as the KX3.  

Let me know if you find the secret formula!  I'm still working on it myself.
I'm 100% satisfied with my K3 and LOVE it compared to the TT stuff.
I just want to be 110% satisfied.  LOL

73
Stan AE7UT



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Hamlib - issue confirmed

2013-03-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
As Debian is making access to backports easier in the near future, I
asked to Kamal to look into providing a backport of the current Hamlib
release to Squeeze.  He agreed it would be a good idea and will look
into it as time permits.  There is no ETA for the moment, but I will
follow up when I hear something from Kamal.

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Travis Brown
Thanks Stan.  I ordered a XG3 yesterday and I hope to have it here this
week.  I wasn't expecting such a huge discrepancy between the KX3 and K3,
and it really surprised me.  If I figure out the secret sauce, I'll
definitely let you know.  I am curious, with did you put the KX3 and K3 on
the XG3 and see a discrepancy in the  S-Meter reading?  If so, how much?

Thanks,
Travis K2NP

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Stan AE7UT ae7...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was disappointed that the K3 receiver didn't seem to be as good as the
 KX3.
 I finally broke down and bought the XG3 signal generator and did all the
 calibrations.  That has made the world of difference... but I still like
 the
 KX3
 receiver more.  I also read and implimented Don's Noisy K3 article.  The
 K3
 still doesn't seem as quiet and sensitive as the KX3.

 Let me know if you find the secret formula!  I'm still working on it
 myself.
 I'm 100% satisfied with my K3 and LOVE it compared to the TT stuff.
 I just want to be 110% satisfied.  LOL

 73
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[Elecraft] K1 signal traced

2013-03-19 Thread David L DuPuy
Don,  here are the values for the Transmitter Signal Tracing.  Results are
shown for 40m (all okay except maybe MIX), and on the right are results for
20m, as measured on a 60 Mhz Tek oscilloscope.  The problem seems to start
between OSC and MIX, i.e., at U8 Transmit Mixer/Osc.

signal tracing

 40m 20m
shunt DRV to gnd
PRE  0.09 0.06
ATTN0.05 0.05
OSC  0.06 0.07
MIX  0.05 0.05  LOW
BUF  4.3 0.9LOW
TR1  2.3 0.5
BPF  0.4 0.2LOW
TR2  0.4 0.2LOW
TR3 0.01 0.04  HI
remove DRV shunt
DRV 1.3 1.1
PA 40 5.4LOW
ANT 40 5.0LOW
RFD 2.1 0.59  LOW

I'm having trouble understanding how the waveform at PRE and ATTN is the
same amplitude on 40 and 20, but very different past U8.  The signal at PRE
and BF is not a clean sine wave, but shows a modulation... true for both 40
and 20.  Is that normal?  The PRE and BUF 20m signal appears to be double
the 40m frequency.  I presume that means both X1 and X2 filter board
crystals are operating??  I really appreciate your continued help!!  (you
are very patient!)  David  AC4BN
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 signal traced

2013-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm

David,

Note that all the RF voltage values at the buffer output and after are 
much lower on 20 meters than on 40 meters.  That points the finger at 
the Buffer stage.


Even though the MIX output is lower than expected, for right now, I 
would suggest you concentrate on the major difference in the BUF output 
between the 2 bands.  The buffer is frequency sensitive - note that 
capacitor C16 in series with R11 makes the gain change with frequency.  
The gain should be higher on higher frequencies, and in your case it is 
not.  So check the component values at C16, R11, and R12 as well as the 
soldering for those components (they determine the gain of U9).
In addition, do DC voltage measurements at U9 pin 2 during both transmit 
and receive.  If Q14 is doing its job, you should see a low voltage at 
pin 2 during receive and about 6 volts during transmit.


Yes, those values indicate that the PreMixer crystal for 20 meters is 
probably OK (reserve judgement on that for later).


73,
Don WFPR

On 3/19/2013 7:46 PM, David L DuPuy wrote:

Don,  here are the values for the Transmitter Signal Tracing.  Results are
shown for 40m (all okay except maybe MIX), and on the right are results for
20m, as measured on a 60 Mhz Tek oscilloscope.  The problem seems to start
between OSC and MIX, i.e., at U8 Transmit Mixer/Osc.

signal tracing

  40m 20m
shunt DRV to gnd
PRE  0.09 0.06
ATTN0.05 0.05
OSC  0.06 0.07
MIX  0.05 0.05  LOW
BUF  4.3 0.9LOW
TR1  2.3 0.5
BPF  0.4 0.2LOW
TR2  0.4 0.2LOW
TR3 0.01 0.04  HI
remove DRV shunt
DRV 1.3 1.1
PA 40 5.4LOW
ANT 40 5.0LOW
RFD 2.1 0.59  LOW

I'm having trouble understanding how the waveform at PRE and ATTN is the
same amplitude on 40 and 20, but very different past U8.  The signal at PRE
and BF is not a clean sine wave, but shows a modulation... true for both 40
and 20.  Is that normal?  The PRE and BUF 20m signal appears to be double
the 40m frequency.  I presume that means both X1 and X2 filter board
crystals are operating??  I really appreciate your continued help!!  (you
are very patient!)  David  AC4BN
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm

Travis,

The real measure of any receiver in the ability to hear weak signals is 
not in the S-meter deflection.  Within limits both the K3 and KX3 
S-meters can be calibrated to read most anything you want to see.
The measurement of actual sensitivity is in the MDS measurement. That 
indicates how weak a signal can be heard at 3 dB above the receiver 
noise floor.
When you get your XG3, I encourage you to follow the instructions in the 
XG3 manual for determining the MDS of a receiver.  With the XG3, that is 
a number inferred by the response at -107 dBm rather than a measurement 
using a well shielded signal generator and switching in attenuation, but 
the approximation should be within 1 dB of the actual MDS if you do the 
procedure (and math) as instructed.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/19/2013 7:26 PM, Travis Brown wrote:

Thanks Stan.  I ordered a XG3 yesterday and I hope to have it here this
week.  I wasn't expecting such a huge discrepancy between the KX3 and K3,
and it really surprised me.  If I figure out the secret sauce, I'll
definitely let you know.  I am curious, with did you put the KX3 and K3 on
the XG3 and see a discrepancy in the  S-Meter reading?  If so, how much?




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Travis Brown
Hi Don,

 I agree 100%!   The S-Meter isn't as big of a concern to me as the fact that 
the noise floor seems to be so much more prevalent on the K3 than the KX3. I do 
understand that the more sensitive receiver will dip deeper into the noise 
floor and you will hear more of it.  If I always have to turn down the RF gain 
though, and the S-Meter shows something even when their is no antenna attached, 
I think it is worth it to calibrate things.  It's not like me to read manual, 
but so far, I have a pretty good track record of reading everything Elecraft 
sends me from cover to cover :)

73,
Travis K2NP

On Mar 19, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Travis,
 
 The real measure of any receiver in the ability to hear weak signals is not 
 in the S-meter deflection.  Within limits both the K3 and KX3 S-meters can be 
 calibrated to read most anything you want to see.
 The measurement of actual sensitivity is in the MDS measurement. That 
 indicates how weak a signal can be heard at 3 dB above the receiver noise 
 floor.
 When you get your XG3, I encourage you to follow the instructions in the XG3 
 manual for determining the MDS of a receiver.  With the XG3, that is a number 
 inferred by the response at -107 dBm rather than a measurement using a well 
 shielded signal generator and switching in attenuation, but the approximation 
 should be within 1 dB of the actual MDS if you do the procedure (and math) as 
 instructed.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm

Travis,

The S-meter should not indicate anything with the antenna disconnected.  
You should be searching for the reason the AGC is being activated on 
receiver noise - or it could be S-meter calibration.  The XG3 can allow 
you to properly calibrate the S-meter - the Utility program will guide you.


73,
Don W3FPR
On 3/19/2013 8:34 PM, Travis Brown wrote:

Hi Don,

  I agree 100%!   The S-Meter isn't as big of a concern to me as the fact that 
the noise floor seems to be so much more prevalent on the K3 than the KX3. I do 
understand that the more sensitive receiver will dip deeper into the noise 
floor and you will hear more of it.  If I always have to turn down the RF gain 
though, and the S-Meter shows something even when their is no antenna attached, 
I think it is worth it to calibrate things.  It's not like me to read manual, 
but so far, I have a pretty good track record of reading everything Elecraft 
sends me from cover to cover :)

73,
Travis K2NP

On Mar 19, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:


Travis,

The real measure of any receiver in the ability to hear weak signals is not in 
the S-meter deflection.  Within limits both the K3 and KX3 S-meters can be 
calibrated to read most anything you want to see.
The measurement of actual sensitivity is in the MDS measurement. That indicates 
how weak a signal can be heard at 3 dB above the receiver noise floor.
When you get your XG3, I encourage you to follow the instructions in the XG3 
manual for determining the MDS of a receiver.  With the XG3, that is a number 
inferred by the response at -107 dBm rather than a measurement using a well 
shielded signal generator and switching in attenuation, but the approximation 
should be within 1 dB of the actual MDS if you do the procedure (and math) as 
instructed.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] ErrTXF using FM on 10m

2013-03-19 Thread tomb18
Oops.  I had the filter bandwidth at 12 not 13.
That did the trick!  Thanks!
One other thing, why can't you use the dsp to get down to 6Khz for AM?



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Sometimes I truly believe that one of the worst plagues imposed on the Hams
of the world was the S-Meter. 

In short, it means little about whether you can hear a signal or how easily
it can be copied.

True signal reports are given by what you hear, not what the meter says.  

73 Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] Thanks for all the help!!!

2013-03-19 Thread pastormg2
I wanted to thank everyone who responded with help for connecting a Kenwood 
MC-60 with a boom to my K3.  Once again many thanks!!!  Mark Griffin, KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results (3/17/13)

2013-03-19 Thread Phil Shepard
 We had a challenging net today.  The ionosphere was very disturbed, and 
 signals were all over the place, with very significant QSB.  With the help of 
 relays (N6JW, W4RKS and others), we managed to get a pretty good number of 
 check-ins in the log.


 Participants  from the 3/17/13 net follow:
 
 Station   NameQTH Rig S/N
 
N6JWJohnCA  K3  936
 W5TTF Charlie TX  K3  4016
 K4GCJ Gerry   NC  K3  1597
KM4IK   Ian GA  K3  281
 WD5M  David   TX  K3  6493
 NZ0T  BillMO  K3  1502
 KA0NCRArnie   NE  K2  310
KE5VDT  Roger   TX  K3  6054
 K5RHD Randy   NM  K3  7170
 W4RKS Jim AL  K3  3618
AG6IS   Scott   CA  K3  4117
W0BBI   BillMO  K3  6363
 W0CZ  Ken ND  K3  457
 WB9JNZEricIL  K3  4017
 AF5BV PaulTX  KX3 3482
WW4JF   JohnTN  K3  6185
AI4VZ   George  GA  K3  2412
 KK4DKKSam VA  K3  6795
N1YXIgorMA  K3  4653
W1ISBob MA  KX3 1099
 KF5IMABruce   MS  K2  3575
NV5ERob TX  K3  1417
 W4FI  Charlie FL  K3  6779

KZ2RSteve   NY  K3  5540
K8JDC   DaveOH  K3  6332
W9JCJoe OH  K3  6623
KB6GRon CA  K3  1997
VE3XM   Rob ON  K3  409
 K4QE  TonyNC  K3  6478
WB6CLZ  MikeCA  K3  4522solar powered
 K0SW  Larry   NE  K3  3750
 WV5I  Dwayne  TX  K3  5287
K2UFJoe NY  K3  5027
K5PFR   PaulTX  KX3 308
WB9PNU  JohnMO  KX3 3722

 W7NMD Palmer  AR  K3  3779
 N8OQ  Jim VA  K3  6534

 N4LKE Ron TN  K3  6763
 W4PFM PaulVA  K3  1673
 W0FM  Terry   MO  K3  474
 
 K1NW  Brian   RI  K3  4974
 
 NJ6L  NeilKY  K3  4601
 KE5GBCMikeTX  K3  5047
 WB8RAEBillNY  K3  2389
 KG4WEZPeter   NC  K3  2566
 
 ZL1PWDPeter   NZ  K3  139
 KD0NEOWayne   MO  K3  5070
 W2RWA DickNY  K3  2603
 N7GOD Galen   WA  K2  6533
 
 W7QHD KurtAZ  K2  1538
 NS7P  PhilOR  K3  1826
 
 73,
 
 Phil, NS7P
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results (3/17/13)

2013-03-19 Thread Phil Shepard

(Sorry, I am still trying to get used to the iMac's Magic Track Pad.  Disregard 
what I sent out a short time ago.)

We had a challenging net on Sunday.  The ionosphere was very disturbed, and 
signals were all over the place, with very significant QSB.  With the help of 
relays (N6JW, W4RKS and others), we managed to get a pretty good number of 
check-ins in the log. Thanks, guys. There were 39 participants over about 30 
minutes, including the Elecraft CW Net NCS, Kevin, KD5ONS.


Participants  from the 3/17/13 net follow:

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

N6JWJohnCA  K3  936
W5TTF   Charlie TX  K3  4016
K4GCJ   Gerry   NC  K3  1597
KM4IK   Ian GA  K3  281
WD5MDavid   TX  K3  6493
NZ0TBillKS  K3  1502
KA0NCR  Arnie   NE  K3  185
KE5VDT  Roger   TX  K3  6054
K5RHD   Randy   NM  K3  7170
W4RKS   Jim AL  K3  3618
AG6IS   Scott   CA  K3  4117
W0BBI   BillMO  K3  6363
W0CZKen ND  K3  457
WB9JNZ  EricIL  K3  4017
AF5BV   PaulTX  KX3 3482
WW4JF   JohnTN  K3  6185
AI4VZ   George  GA  K3  2412
KK4DKK  Sam VA  K3  6795
N1YXIgorMA  K3  4653
W1ISBob MA  KX3 1099
KF5IMA  Bruce   MS  K2  3575
NV5ERob TX  K3  1417
W4FICharlie FL  K3  6779
KZ2RSteve   NY  K3  5540
K8JDC   DaveOH  K3  6332
W9JCJoe OH  K3  6623
KB6GRon CA  K3  1997
VE3XM   Rob ON  K3  409
K4QETonyNC  K3  6478
WB6CLZ  MikeCA  K3  4522solar powered
K0SWLarry   NE  K3  3750
WV5IDwayne  TX  K3  5287
K2UFJoe NY  K3  5027
K5PFR   PaulTX  KX3 308
WB9PNU  JohnMO  KX3 3722
KD5ONS  Kevin   OR  K3  702
K7BRR   BillAZ  K3  5545
VE7XPK  PaulBC  KX3 3627
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

73,

Phil, NS



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