Re: [Elecraft] Heil GM4 to K3

[Gary Smith]

Thanks for the suggestion. I'd found this site earlier but didn't see 
the mic pin info on it, just the info on the K3.

73,

Gary

> 
> the Heil 4 pin XLR uses pins 3 and 4 for PTT , pin 2 for
> the Mic, and pin 1 is shield/ground. 
> 
> according to:http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html
> 
> 
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Gary Smith  wrote:
> 
> I just picked up a Heil goldline GM-4 mic and it has an XLR connector
> with 4 pins. I've been trying to find what the pins represent and as
> much as I've been able to figure pin 4 =PTT and pin 3 =
> shield/ground. I can't figure out what pin 2 and pin 1 go to, one of
> them has to be mic, it's not an electret mic so it does not need
> power. Below are the pin values for the K3
> 
> 1 Mic audio, low-Z (~600 ohms)
> 2 PTT
> 3 DOWN button *
> 4 UP button *
> 5 FUNCTION button *
> 6 8V (10 mA max)
> 7, 8 Ground
> 
> Anyone know what 1 & 2 on the mic connect to?
> 




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Re: [Elecraft] "Them"

[Phil Hystad]

The first Sci Fy movie I remember seeing was "The Forbidden Planet" at the 
Studio Theater on First Street in San Jose, California -- it was probably 1956 
and I was 9 years old.  My oldest sister who was 15 years old at the time took 
me and my other sister who was 11.

phil, K7PEH


On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Rick Commo  wrote:

> Well, it may be OT; but it’s fun for this person who was 9 years old in 1954, 
> and his Mom took him to see his first sci-fi movie, which was "Them”!  I 
> still remember parts of the movie.
> 
> -rick, K7LOG
> 
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
>> I have DVDs of almost all of the great 1950s SciFi movies.  I think my
>> collection is about 20 DVDs.  All the greats and some really stupid movies
>> that they they too are classics such as "Teenagers from Outer Space" or
>> "I Married a Monster From Outer Space".
>> 
>> Is this an Off Topic Topic?
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Them! is available (Them! are available?) for download for free at
>>> https://archive.org/details/PhantasmagoriaTheater-Them1954176
>>> 
>>> A favorite from my youth as well.  Worth watching when 10's dead.
>>> 
>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>> 
>>> 
 
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 Message: 8
 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:42:13 -0700
 From: Fred Jensen 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Them
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 The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from
 where I grew up.  They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we
 used to play in them.
 
 73,
 
 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
 - www.cqp.org
 
 On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the brief training lessons
> for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie "Them!".
> She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching
> for
> giant ants in a helicopter.
> 
> K7PEH
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating

[Don Wilhelm]

Joseph,

I don't know if you are mislabeling the leads of Q18 or not, but those 
voltages and the leads do not make sense.
The Drain of Q18 is connected to the 8B voltage rail through a 33 ohm 
resistor and should have almost 8 volts on it.
The Gate is biased by the rectification of the RF voltage by D13, and 
when oscillating should have a negative voltage (the fact that you show 
no negative voltage says Q18 is not oscillating).
The Q18 Source would normally have 2 to 3 volts on it, but since Q18 is 
not oscillating, there is no VFO RF being applied to D11, and that means 
Q18 will not conduct - that places the gate of Q17 at a high voltage and 
saturates the Drain to Source of Q18 which will produce 0 volts at the 
Q18 Source.


Refer to the Schematic Key page in the back of the manual for the proper 
lead callouts for the J310 transistor.


In other words, Q18 is simply not oscillating for you.  Look at the 
schematic for the RF board Sheet 1 in the upper right quadrant. Check 
each component shown there for proper values and good soldering.  Make 
certain Q18, Q17, and Q16 are oriented correctly and diodes D11, D8 and 
D13 are oriented correctly (look at the Parts Placement Diagram in the 
back of the manual).


Be certain varactors D21 thru D26 are oriented correctly.
If it still does not oscillate, rewind T5 being especially careful to 
make it look exactly like the diagram in the manual and make certain the 
leads are well stripped and tinned before installing it onto the board.
If all that is correct, it will oscillate at some frequency.  If the 
frequency is not correct, that is a different matter, but if everything 
above is correct, it will oscillate.


You could try another J310 at Q18.  There is one that should not be 
mounted yet in your build which would eventually be used at Q24.  If 
that fixes the VFO, ask pa...@elecraft.com for a replacement J310.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/30/2014 11:44 PM, Matt Maguire wrote:

Ok, that makes more sense now, although we now have the Drain of Q17
at 0.08V connected to the Source of Q18 at 6.64V via the primary
(green) winding of T5. I would hazzard a guess that there is also a
clerical error with the Q18 voltages, and that the Source is at 0.08V,
same as the Drain of Q17, the Gate of Q18 is at 0V, and the Source of
Q18 is at 6.67V. The alternative would be that the T5 primary winding
is open circuit, but then the other voltages wouldn't make sense.

There is minimal ALC voltage on Q17 Drain, so this supports your
conclusion that the VCO is not oscillating, although it could also be
that either Q16 or the U3 buffer is not working. An RF probe to pin 3
of the U3 buffer will tell you if there is any signal there.

You might check that all the variactor diodes are in the right way
(D21-D26) and the right type (D21 & D22 are 1SV149, D23 & D24 are
MV209) and that L30 is ok (no red line, large adjustment slot). You
could perhaps try changing bands to toggle the K13/K14/K15 relays to
isolate the associated components and see if the VCO starts
oscillating.

As you say, if any joints look suspect, reflowing them is not a bad idea.

Good luck, let us know how you go.

73, Matt VK2RQ

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discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' -- Isaac Asimov

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Joseph Baxley via Elecraft
 wrote:

Matt,

My reason for asserting that the VCO is not oscillating is two-fold.  One,
there is no frequency at TP1 when I touch it with the probe, but there is
when I touch TP2 and TP3.  Both of these test points show a correct
oscillation of 4.9MHz and 12.09MHz respectively.  Second, when I applied my
voltmeter to R30 and tried turn the slug for L30 there was no change in the
voltage at R30.  I will recheck both of these assertions.

I looked over my notes for Q17 and realized that I had them mis-labeled when
I wrote the first email in this chain.  Looking at the notes I have with me
the labeling is S: 0V, G: 7.14V, and D: 0.08V.  I will of course check these
again when I go back to work on the radio as well as the part types, though
I'm fairly certain they are correct.  I'm taking the night off though.
Also, I did check U3 and U4 over several times and recall them being in the
correct orientation.  Will look again here as well.

The action plan for tomorrow is to double check all components in the VCO
for correct value and orientation and then to re-heat the solder joints on
them.  Hopefully it will be something simple and stupid like a misplaced
part or a cold joint.

Thanks,
Joseph



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Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited

[Thomas Taylor]

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:51:55 -0400
John Lawrence via Elecraft  wrote:

> Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too am an OT
> stuck on the side cluster muscle memory.  Does anyone know where we could get
> a USB stand alone cluster of function keys that could be placed along side
> the regular or laptop keyboard?  Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key
> cluster?
> 
> John, W1QS
> 
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X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) makes several styles of USB/serial keyboards and key
sticks.  They work both in windows & Linux/Unix environments.

73  Tom  KG7CFC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Question about use of ESSB for Data Modes

[Don Wilhelm]

Dave,

For several reasons I would advocate DATA A mode over SSB (or ESSB) for 
data modes.
First, most data mode signals are contained within the 300 to 3000 Hz 
range when the VFO is set at the 'recommended' data mode band frequency.
Secondly, it is easy to move the VFO knob to hear and decode signals 
that are operating at the extreme edges of that bandwidth.
Thirdly, using DATA A mode automatically turns off compression and TX 
EQ.  Those must be manually turned off when using SSB or ESSB.


All in all, my opinion is that DATA A is just more convenient to use 
than either SSB or ESSB for data modes.  While SSB will work just fine 
if the proper precautions are taken, DATA A mode makes it automatic. The 
VFO is easy to move to get to those stations operating on the extreme 
edges (or outside) the "normal" passband.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2014 12:08 AM, David Box Comcast wrote:

I am having a lot of fun learning as much as I can about the KX3 and really 
enjoy using it.  I have been playing with PSK-31 and using the Data mode with 
FlDigi.  The frequency range I am able to work is about 400Hz on low end due to 
receiver roll off and then the upper transmitter bandwidth is 2950Hz as the 
power rolls off sharply above this.  So I have set my waterfall in FlDigi to 
display 400 - 3000 Hz.

That range works very well and making contacts but was thinking tonight if the 
ESSB mode would broaden the available frequency span.  Not a fan of ESSB on 
voice but are there any negatives in using to extend bandwidth on digital modes 
like PSK-31.  I'll probably run some tests tomorrow but wanted to query the 
vast experience base of this group and see if this had already been checked.




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Re: [Elecraft] "Them"

[Rick Commo]

Well, it may be OT; but it’s fun for this person who was 9 years old in 1954, 
and his Mom took him to see his first sci-fi movie, which was "Them”!  I still 
remember parts of the movie.

-rick, K7LOG

On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:

> I have DVDs of almost all of the great 1950s SciFi movies.  I think my
> collection is about 20 DVDs.  All the greats and some really stupid movies
> that they they too are classics such as "Teenagers from Outer Space" or
> "I Married a Monster From Outer Space".
> 
> Is this an Off Topic Topic?
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
> 
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Them! is available (Them! are available?) for download for free at
>> https://archive.org/details/PhantasmagoriaTheater-Them1954176
>> 
>> A favorite from my youth as well.  Worth watching when 10's dead.
>> 
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:42:13 -0700
>>> From: Fred Jensen 
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Them
>>> Message-ID: <53617c45.7010...@foothill.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>> 
>>> The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from
>>> where I grew up.  They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we
>>> used to play in them.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Fred K6DGW
>>> - Northern California Contest Club
>>> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
>>> - www.cqp.org
>>> 
>>> On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the brief training lessons
 for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie "Them!".
 She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching
 for
 giant ants in a helicopter.
 
 K7PEH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Bad Memories

[Wes (N7WS)]

Don's post brings up another pet peeve about K3 ergonomics; memory 
(mis)management.

The K3 manual states:

"The K3 has 100 general-purpose memories (00-99),
plus per-band memories (M1-M4 on each band).
Each memory holds VFO A and B frequencies,
modes, filter presets, antenna selection, and other
settings."

It goes on to say:

"Memories 00-09 are quick memories, accessible
with just two switch taps. These could be used to
get to a starting point in each of 10 ham bands.."

Unfortunately, that's simply not true.  For example, I have used the K3 Memory 
Editor to set M05 to 14.0MHz CW.  I have some other memories set up to receive 
WWV.  One of them, M13 is set to 15.0 MHz, AM.  If I select M13 I will get 15 
MHz, AM.  However, if I then select M05 I still get 15 MHz AM, not 14.0 CW as 
expected. Since 15 MHz is still on the same "band" (20M), the K3 thinks it's 
done and doesn't recall 14 MHz and/or CW.


If one stores something in a memory, one expects to get that stuff back when 
that memory is recalled.  One would be wrong.  I expect, based on use of other, 
more friendly transceivers to recall *exactly* what I saved.  Freq, mode, filter 
settings, antenna, etc.  Not so with the K3, despite what the manual states.


One last example.  I use M1-M4 to set CW, SSB, Data A, AFSK A respectively.  I 
have 400 Hz, 2.8 KHz and 6 KHz filters.  The K3 thinks it knows best and selects 
the 400 Hz filter for Data A, even though I use that for PSK-31 and like to 
start in a wider BW.  So, M3 and M4 have 400 Hz "saved."  If I recall M3 to work 
some PSK and I widen the BW to 2 KHz but then decide to work some RTTY instead, 
when I recall M4 I discover that the previously stored (default) 400 Hz has been 
ignored.  The BW is still 2 KHz.


Exasperating.

Wes  N7WS


On 4/29/2014 4:28 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

[snip]

I might suggest that you set up the K3 "Quick Memories" to accomplish easy and 
quick band changes.  That is much better IMHO than using the Band+ and Band- 
buttons.


73,
Don W3FPR



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[Elecraft] KX3 Question about use of ESSB for Data Modes

[David Box Comcast]

I am having a lot of fun learning as much as I can about the KX3 and really 
enjoy using it.  I have been playing with PSK-31 and using the Data mode with 
FlDigi.  The frequency range I am able to work is about 400Hz on low end due to 
receiver roll off and then the upper transmitter bandwidth is 2950Hz as the 
power rolls off sharply above this.  So I have set my waterfall in FlDigi to 
display 400 - 3000 Hz.

That range works very well and making contacts but was thinking tonight if the 
ESSB mode would broaden the available frequency span.  Not a fan of ESSB on 
voice but are there any negatives in using to extend bandwidth on digital modes 
like PSK-31.  I'll probably run some tests tomorrow but wanted to query the 
vast experience base of this group and see if this had already been checked.

Thanks,
Dave K5MWR


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Re: [Elecraft] "Them"

[Phil Hystad]

I have DVDs of almost all of the great 1950s SciFi movies.  I think my
collection is about 20 DVDs.  All the greats and some really stupid movies
that they they too are classics such as "Teenagers from Outer Space" or
"I Married a Monster From Outer Space".

Is this an Off Topic Topic?

73, phil, K7PEH

On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:

> 
> Them! is available (Them! are available?) for download for free at
> https://archive.org/details/PhantasmagoriaTheater-Them1954176
> 
> A favorite from my youth as well.  Worth watching when 10's dead.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:42:13 -0700
>> From: Fred Jensen 
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Them
>> Message-ID: <53617c45.7010...@foothill.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> 
>> The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from
>> where I grew up.  They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we
>> used to play in them.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred K6DGW
>> - Northern California Contest Club
>> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
>> - www.cqp.org
>> 
>> On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>>> The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the brief training lessons
>>> for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie "Them!".
>>> She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching
>>> for
>>> giant ants in a helicopter.
>>> 
>>> K7PEH
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Contest QRM

[Jim Brown]

On 4/30/2014 5:40 PM, AG0N-3055 wrote:

That's not bad, unless it is the weekend for your favorite mode, OR the other
mode spills out of its normal area of the band and takes over everything in
sight.  That happens all the time.  And I don't care what you or anyone else
says, I know and regularly hear, people just pile into areas of the band where
there is other activity, regular nets, etc.  Contest organizers should designate
a portion of the band where they will accept valid contacts, and disallow the
rest.


Gary,

The thing you seem to be missing is that the big contests attract 
several thousand participants, and propagation drives those participants 
into bands that are open. It is rare that more than three bands are open 
at the same time, and often there are only two. Indeed, during sunspot 
minimums, there's often only 20M during the day. With two bands 
available, that means that there are a thousand or more stations trying 
to fit into each sub-band,in addition to the 50-100 non-contesters who 
are active on that band. The 20M phone band is 200 kHz wide, and a very 
clean rig occupies about 3 kHz. That means there's room on 20M SSB for 
about 70 stations to call CQ, and for 83 on 15M SSB. Things are a lot 
better on CW and RTTY, where clean signals burn 300 Hz and dirty ones 
three times that. That means 500 stations can fit into 20M CW, nearly 
700 into 15 CW.


We all have the same right to use those frequencies, on a first come, 
first served basis. Contesters should not be chasing QSOs off a 
frequency, and those wanting to start a QSO must realize that if 
someone's there first, it's their frequency. But I will not QSY because 
someone 10 kHz down the band from me hears me on his el cheapo rig.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

I have looked it and briefly tried it

I may have to revisit it






 From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out 
of the K3?
 


The low end response does not matter if you use Joe Taylor's WSJT-X
in split frequency mode.  WSJT-X automatically shifts the transmit
frequency so the audio tones are always in the 1500 - 2000 Hz range
for optimum transmit performance and harmonic rejection.

It's time other software authors learned that lesson as well - there
would be a lot less garbage on the air.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 4/30/2014 9:34 PM, Harry_Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio.
>
> This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the
> low end of the waterfall.
>
> Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the
> low end?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating

[Matt Maguire]

Ok, that makes more sense now, although we now have the Drain of Q17
at 0.08V connected to the Source of Q18 at 6.64V via the primary
(green) winding of T5. I would hazzard a guess that there is also a
clerical error with the Q18 voltages, and that the Source is at 0.08V,
same as the Drain of Q17, the Gate of Q18 is at 0V, and the Source of
Q18 is at 6.67V. The alternative would be that the T5 primary winding
is open circuit, but then the other voltages wouldn't make sense.

There is minimal ALC voltage on Q17 Drain, so this supports your
conclusion that the VCO is not oscillating, although it could also be
that either Q16 or the U3 buffer is not working. An RF probe to pin 3
of the U3 buffer will tell you if there is any signal there.

You might check that all the variactor diodes are in the right way
(D21-D26) and the right type (D21 & D22 are 1SV149, D23 & D24 are
MV209) and that L30 is ok (no red line, large adjustment slot). You
could perhaps try changing bands to toggle the K13/K14/K15 relays to
isolate the associated components and see if the VCO starts
oscillating.

As you say, if any joints look suspect, reflowing them is not a bad idea.

Good luck, let us know how you go.

73, Matt VK2RQ

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' -- Isaac Asimov

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Joseph Baxley via Elecraft
 wrote:
> Matt,
>
> My reason for asserting that the VCO is not oscillating is two-fold.  One,
> there is no frequency at TP1 when I touch it with the probe, but there is
> when I touch TP2 and TP3.  Both of these test points show a correct
> oscillation of 4.9MHz and 12.09MHz respectively.  Second, when I applied my
> voltmeter to R30 and tried turn the slug for L30 there was no change in the
> voltage at R30.  I will recheck both of these assertions.
>
> I looked over my notes for Q17 and realized that I had them mis-labeled when
> I wrote the first email in this chain.  Looking at the notes I have with me
> the labeling is S: 0V, G: 7.14V, and D: 0.08V.  I will of course check these
> again when I go back to work on the radio as well as the part types, though
> I'm fairly certain they are correct.  I'm taking the night off though.
> Also, I did check U3 and U4 over several times and recall them being in the
> correct orientation.  Will look again here as well.
>
> The action plan for tomorrow is to double check all components in the VCO
> for correct value and orientation and then to re-heat the solder joints on
> them.  Hopefully it will be something simple and stupid like a misplaced
> part or a cold joint.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

The low end response does not matter if you use Joe Taylor's WSJT-X
in split frequency mode.  WSJT-X automatically shifts the transmit
frequency so the audio tones are always in the 1500 - 2000 Hz range
for optimum transmit performance and harmonic rejection.

It's time other software authors learned that lesson as well - there
would be a lot less garbage on the air.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


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When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio.

This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the
low end of the waterfall.

Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the
low end?




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[Elecraft] "Them"

[Dauer, Edward]

Them! is available (Them! are available?) for download for free at
https://archive.org/details/PhantasmagoriaTheater-Them1954176

A favorite from my youth as well.  Worth watching when 10's dead.

Ted, KN1CBR


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>Message: 8
>Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:42:13 -0700
>From: Fred Jensen 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Them
>Message-ID: <53617c45.7010...@foothill.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from
>where I grew up.  They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we
>used to play in them.
>
>73,
>
>Fred K6DGW
>- Northern California Contest Club
>- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
>- www.cqp.org
>
>On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the brief training lessons
>>for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie "Them!".
>>She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching
>>for
>> giant ants in a helicopter.
>>
>> K7PEH
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?

[Jim Brown]

On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
My KX3 is about 2 months old and no such issues; no scraping, filing 
nor dremeling required. Probably a one-off issue, or a single batch.


There are several spots where it is critical that the chassis make 
contact with either other half of the chassis or to the circuit board, 
or to connectors mounted to the chassis. Of course we must remove mask 
if it is there, but if the fabricator/painter goofed and forgot the tape 
at a location, it IS important to sand or scrape away the paint.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?

[Lawrence D. Lopez]

how about at the top end ?

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Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

I's a limitation in the K3 itself

even using the FM filter it still rolls off the bottom end






 From: Larry Lopez 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out 
of the K3?
 

Harry,

What filter are you using ?

It's my understanding that it's wider with
a AM (6 K Hz) or FM (13 K Hz) filter.

at least I home so. I bought a AM filter
and my K3 hasn't arrived yet.

Larry





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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] MAB -- was " K2 IMA board"

[Gary W. Hvizdak]

In the past hour Tom Taylor (KG7CFC) posted ...

"I apologize for having delayed so long with distribution of the blank PCB's
for the K2 IMA board project."

--- - - - ---

Please note that the K2 project Tom is referring to is KW4M's MAB
(Miscellaneous Accessory Board) and not the IMA (Internal Mic Adaptor).

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Carl Yaffey]

Speaking of jargon, my pet peeve: using 73’s or 88’s instead of 73 or 88. 

On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:

> The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the brief training lessons for 
> the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie "Them!".  She was 
> being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for
> giant ants in a helicopter.
> 
> K7PEH
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?

[Larry Lopez]

Harry,

What filter are you using ?

It's my understanding that it's wider with
a AM (6 K Hz) or FM (13 K Hz) filter.

at least I home so. I bought a AM filter
and my K3 hasn't arrived yet.

Larry





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Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Thank you

I was thinking that may be the answer, at least until I start doing more JT9 & 
JT65 combined





 From: Lyle Johnson 
To: Harry_Yingst ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out 
of the K3?
 

Not at present.

You might try tuning a little lower in dial frequency, say 100 or 200 
Hz, to shift the signals in the waterfall to correspondingly higher 
pitches.  Of course, if the waterfall is full end-to-end, then you'll 
experience some roll-off at the high end.

73,

Lyle KK7P


> When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio.
>
> This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the
> low end of the waterfall.
>
> Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the
> low end?
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[Elecraft] K2 IMA board

[Thomas Taylor]

I apologize for having delayed so long with distribution of the blank PCB's for
the K2 IMA board project.

Unfortunately the ravages of age have taken a tole upon this mortal body
resulting in several hospitalizations recently.

I have been in communication with Doug Shields W4DAS who had expressed interest
in taking over the PCB project.  He indicated he has the facilities to produce
assembled boards, not just blank PCB's.  This will be an improvement as the
board used almost all surface mount components which are difficult to see, let
alone solder.

Thanks to those who ordered and paid for the blank boards for your patience.

73 & Thanks,  Tom Taylor  KG7CFC

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Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?

[Lyle Johnson]

Not at present.

You might try tuning a little lower in dial frequency, say 100 or 200 
Hz, to shift the signals in the waterfall to correspondingly higher 
pitches.  Of course, if the waterfall is full end-to-end, then you'll 
experience some roll-off at the high end.


73,

Lyle KK7P


When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio.

This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the
low end of the waterfall.

Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the
low end?


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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating

[Joseph Baxley via Elecraft]

Matt,

My reason for asserting that the VCO is not oscillating is two-fold.  One,
there is no frequency at TP1 when I touch it with the probe, but there is
when I touch TP2 and TP3.  Both of these test points show a correct
oscillation of 4.9MHz and 12.09MHz respectively.  Second, when I applied my
voltmeter to R30 and tried turn the slug for L30 there was no change in the
voltage at R30.  I will recheck both of these assertions.

I looked over my notes for Q17 and realized that I had them mis-labeled when
I wrote the first email in this chain.  Looking at the notes I have with me
the labeling is S: 0V, G: 7.14V, and D: 0.08V.  I will of course check these
again when I go back to work on the radio as well as the part types, though
I'm fairly certain they are correct.  I'm taking the night off though. 
Also, I did check U3 and U4 over several times and recall them being in the
correct orientation.  Will look again here as well. 

The action plan for tomorrow is to double check all components in the VCO
for correct value and orientation and then to re-heat the solder joints on
them.  Hopefully it will be something simple and stupid like a misplaced
part or a cold joint.  

Thanks,
Joseph



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[Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?

[Harry_Yingst via Elecraft]

When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio.

This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the
low end of the waterfall.

Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the
low end?




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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Kevin]

Here is my source for "over" and "out" procedures as well as definitions 
of same.


http://www.navymars.org/ntp8/NTP%208%20D%20Final.pdf

Page 7-1 is the beginning of the radiotelephone procedures.

My initial comment about "over" and "out" was describing military 
procedure not whatever flavor of the day the amateur community is using.


While training ECOM students for ARES I used this manual as well as the 
ARECC material.  Then my students went out into the world and did 
whatever they felt like.  Being a teacher is often like the poor snail 
climbing the side of a well.  Two steps forward 

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[Elecraft] K3 with Two Meter Module, Heat Buildup, Possible FW Change?

[Harry_Yingst via Elecraft]

When running the K3 on two meters It gets fairly hot fairly
quick since it only uses the side of the case as a heatsink.

I noticed that the K3 Remained warm for some time. When I went Back to HF
and the
fans for the PA came on the K3 cooled down fairly quickly and has remained
cool.

This makes me think that a FW change that would either run the fans whenever
the
K3 transmits on two meters or reads the temp of the front panel to turn the
fans on.





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Re: [Elecraft] OT Them

[EricJ]

I saw "Them" when I was 12 at a matinee at Camp Stoneman where my dad 
was stationed during the Korean War. Scariest movie I had ever seen. I 
rented it from Netflix a couple years ago just for fun. When I first 
heard the sounds of the ants, the hair on the back of my neck stood on 
end. I almost shut the damn DVD off right there. That movie did some 
damage to 12 year olds in the 50s.


Eric
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On 4/30/2014 3:29 PM, James Doty wrote:

I love that movie!  It will always be one of my favorite Cold War era
scifis.

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Re: [Elecraft] Contest QRM

[AG0N-3055]

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:16:18 -0700, Jim Brown wrote:

> Contests always avoid the WARC bands, and most contests are a single 
> mode -- CW or SSB or RTTY -- leaving lots of space for those who don't 
> enjoy them.

That's not bad, unless it is the weekend for your favorite mode, OR the other
mode spills out of its normal area of the band and takes over everything in
sight.  That happens all the time.  And I don't care what you or anyone else
says, I know and regularly hear, people just pile into areas of the band where
there is other activity, regular nets, etc.  Contest organizers should designate
a portion of the band where they will accept valid contacts, and disallow the
rest.

I know, just my opinion, but I assure you, I'm not alone.  This whole thing is
off topic for the list anyway.

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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Gary K9GS]

Can we drop the contest bashing?  This is not the forum for it anyway.  
Besides, per the list owner, WA6HHQ from only yesterday:


In general, please do not argue on the Elecraft list pro/con about various
emission modes like ESSB, CW vs no-code, QRP vs QRO, Contesting etc and their
appropriateness to amateur radio. This list is not a forum for amateur radio
policy. Also, impolite discussion is in direct violation of the list guidelines.



On 4/30/2014 11:18 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:



I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, it 
all seems pretty pointless.

In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard for 
other Amateurs.

I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 
Frequencies are Full
with CW or RTTY and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB voice 
contesters.

And the typical response from contesters are "Use the WARC Bands".

I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel special.





  From: AG0N-3055 
To: Kevin Stover 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
  


On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote:


Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral
anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved.

You're talking to one of the anti crowd.  It has nothing to do with
speed.  It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos
of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think
there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend.  Boy do I
relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a
year.  The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes.  If you were
into DX, there was the annual DX contest.

Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in
them.  They were fun because they were special.  These days, there's
nothing special at all about them.  You can't even get a meaningful
signal report now.  Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too
weak to copy.  They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't
enjoy the bands.

Gary


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73,

Gary K9GS

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Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Phil Kane]

On 4/30/2014 6:35 AM, Barry wrote:

> Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their own.  What grates on my nerves
> is hearing the newer hams start every transmission on 2m FM with "Copy
> that," the VHF version of "please copy..."  :-)

In traffic handling, even on VHF, "Please copy" still means "please copy..."

"Copy that" as a preamble in a conversation came to us via CB, and it's
really the phone equivalent of "R" in CW meaning "I have copied and
understood what you sent".
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>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Kevin]

During a MARS net the NCS says "out" to a check in when they are done 
talking to that check in .  Then they immediately continue with the next 
QNI.  "Out" means they are done talking to that person only and for that 
instant only.  It does not mean that check in is allowed to leave the 
net.  "Over" means back to the other person for continued comms.


If you used "over and out" during a military net no one would understand 
which you mean.

Kevin.  KD5ONS/NNN0JWI



On 4/30/2014 5:01 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

Agreed, this is correct usage. It is shorthand for "OVER to you and OUT after your 
transmission", which saves another transmission just for "ID, out".

You might hear this at a busy harbor, where control is working with many 
commercial ships and the operators are comfortable with it. It allows control 
to move on to the next vessel.

I would not use this on an amateur radio net without a training session that 
established this bit of advance proword usage.

Over,

wunder
K6WRU

On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:


On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote:


The made up "radio jargon" which bothers me the most is "over and
out".  Which do you mean: over or out?  They mean very different
things and CANNOT be used simultaneously.

They certainly can.  "Over" means "turning it back to you for your
reply".  "Out" means "No further transmissions from me."   In ham jargon
it's "Back to you for your final and I'm clear."

Over and out.   73 de K2ASP


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Re: [Elecraft] Heil GM4 to K3

[David Sanders W4DES]

the Heil 4 pin XLR uses pins 3 and 4 for PTT , pin 2 for 
the Mic, and pin 1 is shield/ground. 

according to: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html


On Apr 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Gary Smith  wrote:

> I just picked up a Heil goldline GM-4 mic and it has an XLR connector 
> with 4 pins. I've been trying to find what the pins represent and as 
> much as I've been able to figure pin 4 =PTT and pin 3 = 
> shield/ground. I can't figure out what pin 2 and pin 1 go to, one of 
> them has to be mic, it's not an electret mic so it does not need 
> power. Below are the pin values for the K3
> 
> 1 Mic audio, low-Z (~600 ohms)
> 2 PTT
> 3 DOWN button *
> 4 UP button *
> 5 FUNCTION button *
> 6 8V (10 mA max)
> 7, 8 Ground
> 
> Anyone know what 1 & 2 on the mic connect to?

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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Walter Underwood]

Agreed, this is correct usage. It is shorthand for "OVER to you and OUT after 
your transmission", which saves another transmission just for "ID, out".

You might hear this at a busy harbor, where control is working with many 
commercial ships and the operators are comfortable with it. It allows control 
to move on to the next vessel.

I would not use this on an amateur radio net without a training session that 
established this bit of advance proword usage.

Over,

wunder
K6WRU

On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:

> On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote:
> 
>> The made up "radio jargon" which bothers me the most is "over and
>> out".  Which do you mean: over or out?  They mean very different
>> things and CANNOT be used simultaneously.  
> 
> They certainly can.  "Over" means "turning it back to you for your
> reply".  "Out" means "No further transmissions from me."   In ham jargon
> it's "Back to you for your final and I'm clear."
> 
> Over and out.   73 de K2ASP
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Heil GM4 to K3

[Nr4c]

Check the Heil web site. Should have diagram of mic end. Just match it up with 
K3 diagram. Or just get the Kenwood cable from. Heil. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Apr 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, "Gary Smith"  wrote:
> 
> I just picked up a Heil goldline GM-4 mic and it has an XLR connector 
> with 4 pins. I've been trying to find what the pins represent and as 
> much as I've been able to figure pin 4 =PTT and pin 3 = 
> shield/ground. I can't figure out what pin 2 and pin 1 go to, one of 
> them has to be mic, it's not an electret mic so it does not need 
> power. Below are the pin values for the K3
> 
> 1 Mic audio, low-Z (~600 ohms)
> 2 PTT
> 3 DOWN button *
> 4 UP button *
> 5 FUNCTION button *
> 6 8V (10 mA max)
> 7, 8 Ground
> 
> Anyone know what 1 & 2 on the mic connect to?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Phil Kane]

On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote:

> The made up "radio jargon" which bothers me the most is "over and
> out".  Which do you mean: over or out?  They mean very different
> things and CANNOT be used simultaneously.  

They certainly can.  "Over" means "turning it back to you for your
reply".  "Out" means "No further transmissions from me."   In ham jargon
it's "Back to you for your final and I'm clear."

Over and out.   73 de K2ASP

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[Elecraft] Heil GM4 to K3

[Gary Smith]

I just picked up a Heil goldline GM-4 mic and it has an XLR connector 
with 4 pins. I've been trying to find what the pins represent and as 
much as I've been able to figure pin 4 =PTT and pin 3 = 
shield/ground. I can't figure out what pin 2 and pin 1 go to, one of 
them has to be mic, it's not an electret mic so it does not need 
power. Below are the pin values for the K3

1 Mic audio, low-Z (~600 ohms)
2 PTT
3 DOWN button *
4 UP button *
5 FUNCTION button *
6 8V (10 mA max)
7, 8 Ground

Anyone know what 1 & 2 on the mic connect to?

73,

Gary
KA1J

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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Don Wilhelm]

Fred,

I think the answer to your question of when to turn it on has a personal 
perception element to it.
We have heard from some who leave it turned on all the time, and some 
others have volunteered that it improves the keying above 35 wpm while 
others have said above 30.


As I recall, QRQ mode is now automatically turned off if you use 
SPLIT/RIT/XIT - if that does not happen for you, update the firmware.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/30/2014 6:46 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

On 4/30/2014 11:43 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:
The International Q signal for QRQ is "Shall I send faster?" and does 
not

mention any specific speed.


Technically, the "answer" form of QRQ is "QRQ nn" where nn is a 
desired speed in WPM.


All this QRQ stuff has me curious now.  At what sending speed would I 
want to engage QRQ mode on my K3?  I think I'd have to give up 
RIT/XIT, and I think there was something else too.  I never use XIT 
but I do use RIT when I'm CQ'ing.




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Re: [Elecraft] OT Them

[James Doty]

I love that movie!  It will always be one of my favorite Cold War era
scifis.

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Re: [Elecraft] OT Them

[Phil Wheeler]

Lucky "They" didn't get you, Fred. That's a movie 
I enjoy watching from time-to-time.


Phil w7ox (born in Hollywood and now in Torrance 
after growing up in the NW)


On 4/30/14, 3:42 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie 
was about 2 mi from where I grew up.  They were 
storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we used 
to play in them.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the 
brief training lessons for the young female 
scientist near the beginning of the movie 
"Them!".  She was being taught proper protocol 
of using the radio while searching for

giant ants in a helicopter.

K7PEH


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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Fred Jensen]

On 4/30/2014 11:43 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:

The International Q signal for QRQ is "Shall I send faster?" and does not
mention any specific speed.


Technically, the "answer" form of QRQ is "QRQ nn" where nn is a desired 
speed in WPM.


All this QRQ stuff has me curious now.  At what sending speed would I 
want to engage QRQ mode on my K3?  I think I'd have to give up RIT/XIT, 
and I think there was something else too.  I never use XIT but I do use 
RIT when I'm CQ'ing.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

PS:  Casual contester.  I did win JIDX for W6 once, however I was also 
next to last. :-)



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?

[Phil Wheeler]

My KX3 is about 2 months old and no such issues; 
no scraping, filing nor dremeling required. 
Probably a one-off issue, or a single batch.


Phil w7ox

On 4/30/14, 3:09 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
Well, since a painted surface doesn't make a 
good electrical connection, I would assume that 
the removal is done for this reason.


The same is true of the W2 wattmeter kit.

Nor sure why Elecraft didn't specify to the 
fabricator that this area on both kits should 
not be painted.


I bought a Dremel tool kit, only to discover 
that we had one already.  :-)


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 4/30/2014 2:26 PM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO wrote:
I've found that the neatest way to do this is 
to use a motor tool (in the US it's a 'Dremel 
tool') with a conical grinding cylinder.




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Re: [Elecraft] OT Them

[Fred Jensen]

The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from 
where I grew up.  They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we 
used to play in them.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the brief training lessons for the young 
female scientist near the beginning of the movie "Them!".  She was being taught proper 
protocol of using the radio while searching for
giant ants in a helicopter.

K7PEH



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[Elecraft] K3 Macros

[Roy Morris]

It surely would be nice if there was a dedicated spot to list K3 macros on
the Elecraft reflector.  Roy  W4WFB

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?

[Jim Lowman]

Well, since a painted surface doesn't make a good electrical connection, 
I would assume that the removal is done for this reason.


The same is true of the W2 wattmeter kit.

Nor sure why Elecraft didn't specify to the fabricator that this area on 
both kits should not be painted.


I bought a Dremel tool kit, only to discover that we had one already.  :-)

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 4/30/2014 2:26 PM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO wrote:
I've found that the neatest way to do this is to use a motor tool (in 
the US it's a 'Dremel tool') with a conical grinding cylinder.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?

[Dave Jewell]

Thanks Don.  Definitely no mask there - only metal + paint!  :-)   I’ve got 
poor distance vision, but I can focus down to about two inches from my face.  
(Good for building models!)  Even if I couldn’t see the mask, I’d be able to 
feel it.  

I agree that scraping with a knife (or a Dremel) is a lot quicker than sanding. 

73,
Dave GW0LUA

On 30 Apr 2014, at 20:57, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> Look at that area very carefully using a light held at an oblique angle.
> The masking tape may be there, but completely covered with paint.
> If it is not there, scrape with a knife and then sand a little. That paint is 
> tough and it will take a while to sand through it. Sanding is OK, but 
> scraping with the blade of a knife is much easier and faster.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Dave Jewell wrote:
>> I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday.
>> 
>> BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual.
>> 
>> This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to remove the 
>> paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover.  The small leftmost 
>> illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the page) indicates that 
>> there should be a small mask on the left end (as viewed in the illustration) 
>> corresponding to a much larger mask on the right end.
>> 
>> On my bottom cover, this isn’t there.  I’ve removed all the other masks - 
>> inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the indicated position.  
>> And because there’s no mask, there’s paint where there should be bare metal.
>> 
>> __
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Ross Primrose N4RP]

On 4/30/2014 5:30 PM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO wrote:
I think we should all keep this in mind in case we encounter giant 
ants while operating. Possibly on Field Day?


You guys use a helicopter for field day? Cool! ;)

73, Ross N4RP


On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the brief training
lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the
movie "Them!". She was being taught proper protocol of using the
radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter.

K7PEH





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

If I recall correctly when I built my K2 I had to sand off a spot.

I masked off the area with aluminum tape then used the small wire wheel brush 
on a Dremel tool




 From: Vic Rosenthal K2VCO 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?
 

I've found that the neatest way to do this is to use a motor tool (in 
the US it's a 'Dremel tool') with a conical grinding cylinder.

On 4/30/2014 12:57 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Look at that area very carefully using a light held at an oblique angle.
> The masking tape may be there, but completely covered with paint.
> If it is not there, scrape with a knife and then sand a little. That
> paint is tough and it will take a while to sand through it. Sanding is
> OK, but scraping with the blade of a knife is much easier and faster.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Dave Jewell wrote:
>> I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday.
>>
>> BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual.
>>
>> This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to
>> remove the paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover.  The
>> small leftmost illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the
>> page) indicates that there should be a small mask on the left end (as
>> viewed in the illustration) corresponding to a much larger mask on the
>> right end.
>>
>> On my bottom cover, this isn’t there.  I’ve removed all the other
>> masks - inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the
>> indicated position.  And because there’s no mask, there’s paint where
>> there should be bare metal.

-- 
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Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Some of the models from Genovation are RS-232

That means you should be able to hook them directly to the Ks (may require an 
adapter to get the pins correct)





 From: Ray Sills 
To: John Lawrence  
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited
 

Hi John:

You might want to take a look at he products from Genovation 

They have a number of terminals in various sizes which can be had in  
USB and RS-232 formats, which might do the job.  IIRC, they come with  
software which will permit you to create your own macros for any  
application.  The RS-232 can be connected directly to a K3/KX3, so it  
can be used -without- an attached computer.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


On Apr 30, 2014, at 2:51 PM, John Lawrence via Elecraft wrote:

> Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too  
> am an OT stuck on the side
> cluster muscle memory.  Does anyone know where we could get a USB  
> stand alone cluster
> of function keys that could be placed along side the regular or  
> laptop keyboard?  Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key cluster?
>
> John, W1QS
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?

[Vic Rosenthal K2VCO]

I've found that the neatest way to do this is to use a motor tool (in 
the US it's a 'Dremel tool') with a conical grinding cylinder.


On 4/30/2014 12:57 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Dave,

Look at that area very carefully using a light held at an oblique angle.
The masking tape may be there, but completely covered with paint.
If it is not there, scrape with a knife and then sand a little. That
paint is tough and it will take a while to sand through it. Sanding is
OK, but scraping with the blade of a knife is much easier and faster.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Dave Jewell wrote:

I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday.

BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual.

This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to
remove the paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover.  The
small leftmost illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the
page) indicates that there should be a small mask on the left end (as
viewed in the illustration) corresponding to a much larger mask on the
right end.

On my bottom cover, this isn’t there.  I’ve removed all the other
masks - inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the
indicated position.  And because there’s no mask, there’s paint where
there should be bare metal.


--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Vic Rosenthal K2VCO]

I think we should all keep this in mind in case we encounter giant ants 
while operating. Possibly on Field Day?


On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the brief training
lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the
movie "Them!".  She was being taught proper protocol of using the
radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter.

K7PEH


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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Phil Hystad]

The phrase "Over and Out" was a key part of the brief training lessons for the 
young female scientist near the beginning of the movie "Them!".  She was being 
taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for
giant ants in a helicopter.

K7PEH


On Apr 30, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Dean Jeutter  wrote:

> TV radio jargon also has it as "six two and even, over and out" (Dick Tracy 
> maybe?)
> 
> K3GGN
> ~~~
> On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote:
>> The made up "radio jargon" which bothers me the most is "over and out".  
>> Which do you mean: over or out?  They mean very different things and CANNOT 
>> be used simultaneously.  However, few TV writers have any experience at 
>> comms.
>>73,
>> Kevin.  KD5ONS
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/30/2014 9:58 AM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote:
>>> I eight years as a flier in the Air Force during the Vietnam era and 15 
>>> years as  private, instrument rated pilot I do not recall ever hearing Copy 
>>> That on the radio.  We were trained to use Niner for Nine because it was 
>>> easier to be sure what you heard in a series of numbers.  It is really 
>>> important whether you meant Niner thousand or Five thousand feet.  The only 
>>> time I recall hearing Copy That was in the inane commercial where two 
>>> actors were conversing with a series of Copy Thats.  I have heard things 
>>> like Copy Niner Thousand.  To repeat a controllers instruction when it is 
>>> very important to get it correctly.
>>>  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman
>>> K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
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Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited

[Ray Sills]

Hi John:

You might want to take a look at he products from Genovation 
They have a number of terminals in various sizes which can be had in  
USB and RS-232 formats, which might do the job.  IIRC, they come with  
software which will permit you to create your own macros for any  
application.  The RS-232 can be connected directly to a K3/KX3, so it  
can be used -without- an attached computer.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


On Apr 30, 2014, at 2:51 PM, John Lawrence via Elecraft wrote:

Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too  
am an OT stuck on the side
cluster muscle memory.  Does anyone know where we could get a USB  
stand alone cluster
of function keys that could be placed along side the regular or  
laptop keyboard?  Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key cluster?


John, W1QS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker

[mcduffie]

> Yes, definitely coming from the K3

You say audio...but is it really audio, as in demodulated sideband?  Or, is it
undemodulated single sideband you are hearing?  Big difference.  If
undemodulated, then it is likely a change in your grounding or something else
that has affected the RF levels showing up in your mic or line inputs, or even
your speaker system.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Dean Jeutter]

TV radio jargon also has it as "six two and even, over and out" (Dick 
Tracy maybe?)


K3GGN
~~~
On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote:
The made up "radio jargon" which bothers me the most is "over and 
out".  Which do you mean: over or out?  They mean very different 
things and CANNOT be used simultaneously.  However, few TV writers 
have any experience at comms.

73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 4/30/2014 9:58 AM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote:
I eight years as a flier in the Air Force during the Vietnam era and 
15 years as  private, instrument rated pilot I do not recall ever 
hearing Copy That on the radio.  We were trained to use Niner for 
Nine because it was easier to be sure what you heard in a series of 
numbers.  It is really important whether you meant Niner thousand or 
Five thousand feet.  The only time I recall hearing Copy That was in 
the inane commercial where two actors were conversing with a series 
of Copy Thats.  I have heard things like Copy Niner Thousand.  To 
repeat a controllers instruction when it is very important to get it 
correctly.

  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker

[Don Wilhelm]

Graham,

Turn on TX TEST mode and see if that condition is still present.
If it is, double check the MON setting to be certain you did not 
inadvertently change it while trying to adjust the power level or 
compression.


If it is gone with TX TEST, next try it while transmitting into a dummy 
load.
If it is still gone with the dummy load, I would suggest you look to see 
what has changed in your antenna system because at that point I would 
suspect some type of RF feedback.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/30/2014 3:51 PM, Graham Pemberton wrote:

Hi,
Yes, definitely coming from the K3 I have not got anything connected at all 
apart from the antenna.

Graham




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?

[Don Wilhelm]

Dave,

Look at that area very carefully using a light held at an oblique angle.
The masking tape may be there, but completely covered with paint.
If it is not there, scrape with a knife and then sand a little. That 
paint is tough and it will take a while to sand through it. Sanding is 
OK, but scraping with the blade of a knife is much easier and faster.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Dave Jewell wrote:

I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday.

BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual.

This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to remove the 
paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover.  The small leftmost 
illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the page) indicates that there 
should be a small mask on the left end (as viewed in the illustration) 
corresponding to a much larger mask on the right end.

On my bottom cover, this isn’t there.  I’ve removed all the other masks - 
inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the indicated position.  And 
because there’s no mask, there’s paint where there should be bare metal.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker

[Graham Pemberton]

Hi,
Yes, definitely coming from the K3 I have not got anything connected at all 
apart from the antenna. 

Graham 


Sent from Samsung Mobile

 Original message From: Vic Rosenthal K2VCO 
 Date:30/04/2014  19:42  (GMT+00:00) 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 
Tx audio coming through speaker 
Are you sure it is coming from the K3 speaker and not from speakers on a 
computer that is connected to the K3 line out output?

On 4/30/2014 8:55 AM, Graham Pemberton G7NEH wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> After working perfectly for awhile my K3 has developed the following
> problem, when I key the mike and transmit in SSB mode the audo is
> coming through the speaker while i’m transmitting, I have not got
> monitor turned on and this happens wether using the internal speaker
> or headphones.
>
> I’m hoping this is just caused by me altering a parameter in the
> menu’s that I shouldn’t have done.
>
> Thank you in advance for your help
>
> Regards Graham G7NEH K3/100 #8095

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[Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?

[Dave Jewell]

I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday.  

BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual.  

This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to remove the 
paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover.  The small leftmost 
illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the page) indicates that there 
should be a small mask on the left end (as viewed in the illustration) 
corresponding to a much larger mask on the right end. 

On my bottom cover, this isn’t there.  I’ve removed all the other masks - 
inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the indicated position.  And 
because there’s no mask, there’s paint where there should be bare metal.  On 
the basis that a picture is worth a thousand words, my bottom cover inside end 
looks like this:

http://www.gloddaeth.com/1.jpg

instead of looking like this:

http://www.gloddaeth.com/2.jpg

So my question is: does it matter, or do I need to start sanding this area.  As 
far as I can tell, there’s only a battery holder in this position in the 
completed rig, but I’d like to know one way or the other.  

Thanks,
Dave GW0LUA

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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results for 4/27/2014

[Phil Shepard]

Here is the SSB net report for April 27, 2014.  We had 34 participants over 30 
minutes.

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

N6JWJohnCA  K3  936
W0CZKen ND  K3  457
WM6PSteve   CA  K3  8133
KM4IK   Ian GA  K3  281
WW4JF   JohnTN  K3  6185
K8NUCarlOH  K3  7976
AD5IJ   Howard  OR  KX3 5178QRP
W7NMD   Palmer  AR  K3  3779
WB9JNZ  EricIL  K3  4017
KB9AVO  PaulIN  K3  7880
K1NWBrian   RI  K3  4974
K7BRR   BillAZ  K3  5545
W5TTF   Charlie TX  K3  4016
VE7EAR  Al  BC  KX3 3158
N4WCQ   RickKY  K3  8160
K8DJC   Nelson  OH  K3  560
W4RKS   Jim TX  K3  3618
KN5LJohnTX  KX3 1658
QRP
N8OQJim VA  K3  6534
W2PYMikeAZ  KX3 3484
QRP
W7JJL   JohnWA  KX3 993
N5ZMEarlAR  K3  3223
NK7ZDaveOR  K3  8172
KA6GMA  GlenCA  K3  7522
W7OXPhilCA  K3  8004
N0NBNateKS  K3  4762
W2RWA   DickNY  K3  2603
KG1GEM  Tim TX  KX3 5969
AB7CE   Roy MT  KX3 115 
QRP
K6BFBernCA  K3  4608
K4STN   BillGA  KX3 4330
W9JCJoe 
K2UTBob NJ  K3  8017
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826


73,
Phil, NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Mike's observations are the same as mine.  Using the XG-3 on 20 meters
and slow AGC, I see no change in audio output on left (Main RX) when
dual RX is enabled.  With dual RX enabled, both audio channels are
the same level.  MENU: LIN OUT is NOR 10. and MK II has RX Main/RX Sub
at the same point (12:00 for measurements/comparisons like this -
typically 10:00 for normal operation).

Windows Sound Control Panel - Recording Devices - Line (microHAM CODEC)
Levels tab line level is set to 40 and balance is set for 40 on each
channel.  Advanced tab |Default Format is set to: 2 channel, 16 bit,
48000 Hz (DVD Quality).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 4/30/2014 1:37 PM, Mike Harris wrote:

Sorry Buck but it doesn't sound solved to me.

I've been following this thread and have just for sanities sake done the
following test:

Line out = 7

Main and Sub RX set to frequency of my XG1 (approx 7040kHz)

XG1 set to 1uV out

Spectrogram set to stereo input

Windows sound mixer balanced L & R channel

Both Sub and Main RX on CW both with 500Hz roofers and 400Hz DSP, both
filter gain compensation setting 4dB

Main RX level from Spectrogram = -82dB

Sub RX level from Spectrogram  = -85dB

If it turn off Sub RX, main RX level increases to -79dB

Clearly there are measurement calibration issues here, I didn't inject a
fixed level test tone into each of the L&R channels on the PC to check
the balance.

Never the less I would conclude there is still something very wrong with
your line out.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO



In the interest of future readers, here is what I found.

I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended.  In fact, they
warn of going over that level.  However, when you turn on the SUB RX,
the signal is split and you lose 3db.  This can be heard in the
headphones.  It seems it also affects the Line Out.

When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in
the right channel of the Line Out.  I have no idea how linear the LIN
OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was
needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in.

Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on
the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx
signal on the right channel.   I am able to compensate for this by
turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII.  I wasn't
able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play
around with that some more.


Buck
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Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited

[Alan Jump]

Look at the Logitech G13 game board and see if it might suit your needs. It
has 25 programmable keys, which should be plenty of CW macros.

- -
73 de N5ILN
Alan


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:51 AM, John Lawrence via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too am an
> OT stuck on the side
> cluster muscle memory.  Does anyone know where we could get a USB stand
> alone cluster
> of function keys that could be placed along side the regular or laptop
> keyboard?  Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key cluster?
>
> John, W1QS
>
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[Elecraft] Keyboards revisited

[John Lawrence via Elecraft]

Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too am an OT 
stuck on the side 
cluster muscle memory.  Does anyone know where we could get a USB stand alone 
cluster
of function keys that could be placed along side the regular or laptop 
keyboard?  Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key cluster?

John, W1QS

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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Vic Rosenthal K2VCO]

And I have never seen the point of JT-anything or indeed any digital 
mode except CW. But I understand that ham radio is many things to many 
people, and think we should respect that.


On 4/30/2014 9:18 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:


I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, it 
all seems pretty pointless.

In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard for 
other Amateurs.

I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 
Frequencies are Full
with CW or RTTY and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB voice 
contesters.

And the typical response from contesters are "Use the WARC Bands".

I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel special.



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Vic, K2VCO
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Chester Alderman]

The International Q signal for QRQ is "Shall I send faster?" and does not
mention any specific speed.

73,

Tom - W4BQF
Licensed in 1953

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:13 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW


I have my own definition of QRQ. It is anything faster than I can copy at
any given time.

73,

Jim - W4BQP
K2 #2268, KX3 #2857
Licensed since 1953
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker

[Vic Rosenthal K2VCO]

Are you sure it is coming from the K3 speaker and not from speakers on a 
computer that is connected to the K3 line out output?


On 4/30/2014 8:55 AM, Graham Pemberton G7NEH wrote:

Hi all,

After working perfectly for awhile my K3 has developed the following
problem, when I key the mike and transmit in SSB mode the audo is
coming through the speaker while i’m transmitting, I have not got
monitor turned on and this happens wether using the internal speaker
or headphones.

I’m hoping this is just caused by me altering a parameter in the
menu’s that I shouldn’t have done.

Thank you in advance for your help

Regards Graham G7NEH K3/100 #8095


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 problem: no tx output on 15 and 17m

[Don Wilhelm]

Nick,

My best guess is that something has happened in the 15/17 meter bandpass 
filter.  You could verify that guess by doing a check of a couple points 
in the Transmit Signal Tracing section of Appendix A in the manual.   
Use the RF Probe or oscilloscope with a 10X probe. You can start on page 
14.  The two points of interest are the Buffer Output and the Bandpass 
Filter Output.  Of course, you would set the K2 to 15 or 17 meters 
rather than 40 meters as suggested in the manual.  If you have a good 
amplitude signal at the Buffer Output, but little or none at the 
Bandpass Filter Output, you have confirmed that the bandpass filter is 
the problem.


If you are also getting HiCur messages, the most likely problem area is 
the Low Pass Filter rather than the Bandpass Filter.


The first thing to check is soldering.  An unsoldered or poorly solder 
connection can work fine for a long time with only mechanical contact, 
but one day it develops enough oxidation to cause a problem.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/30/2014 12:18 PM, Nick Henwood wrote:

Any advice please?   My K2 suddenly lost tx output on 15 and 17 (actually still 
a tiny amount - less than a watt). Still receiving OK on those bands. I removed 
the 100w amp and the problem relates to the K2 barefoot. There is common 
circuitry on these bands - any suggestions where to start checking pl? The K2 
is still working OK on all other bands.



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 120, Issue 72

[Don Wilhelm]

PJH,

See the "Using Transverters" section of the K3 manual.

You do not have to lose 10 meters at all.  You can set the K3 XVx (ON, 
RF, IF, PWR, OFS, and ADR) menu entries to the RF band that you need 
(144).  The IF for the XV144 to 28, the PWR to match your settings in 
the XV144, the OFS (offset) to compensate for any errors in the XV144 
local oscillator, and ADR to whichever transverter band you wish to use 
- the switch in the XV144 and the TRN number should agree.


If you have the KXV3 (or KXV3A) in your K3, you would connect the 28 MHz 
IF to the transverter input and output - configure the XV144 for a split 
IF.  Without the KXV3, you will need to connect and disconnect the K3 
antenna to feed the 28 MHz signal to the XV144, and you would have to 
use a common 28 MHz TR/RX cable to the XV144.


Things are much easier with the KXV3 in the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/30/2014 12:57 PM, P.J.Hicks wrote:


I am building a XV144 transciever for connection to my K3. I have never used a 
transverter before.  In reading the construction manual and the operators manual I 
conclude that when I switch to 10 meters on the K3 that the xv144 is switched in, 
the K3 display will indicate in the 144 mHz range and I will be tx & rx on 2 
meters. How then do I operate on 10 meters? Do I have to disconnect the xv144? I 
don't see any instructions re. this situation??



PJH, N7PXY
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED

[Mike Harris]

Sorry Buck but it doesn't sound solved to me.

I've been following this thread and have just for sanities sake done the 
following test:


Line out = 7

Main and Sub RX set to frequency of my XG1 (approx 7040kHz)

XG1 set to 1uV out

Spectrogram set to stereo input

Windows sound mixer balanced L & R channel

Both Sub and Main RX on CW both with 500Hz roofers and 400Hz DSP, both 
filter gain compensation setting 4dB


Main RX level from Spectrogram = -82dB

Sub RX level from Spectrogram  = -85dB

If it turn off Sub RX, main RX level increases to -79dB

Clearly there are measurement calibration issues here, I didn't inject a 
fixed level test tone into each of the L&R channels on the PC to check 
the balance.


Never the less I would conclude there is still something very wrong with 
your line out.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO



In the interest of future readers, here is what I found.

I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended.  In fact, they
warn of going over that level.  However, when you turn on the SUB RX,
the signal is split and you lose 3db.  This can be heard in the
headphones.  It seems it also affects the Line Out.

When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in
the right channel of the Line Out.  I have no idea how linear the LIN
OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was
needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in.

Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on
the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx
signal on the right channel.   I am able to compensate for this by
turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII.  I wasn't
able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play
around with that some more.


Buck
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Phil Wheeler]

I thought it as from CB as in "Copy that, Good 
Buddy" :-)


73 Phil w7ox

On 4/30/14, 7:10 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
I always thought the phrase "Copy That" was a 
holdover from either pilot or military lingo, 
much like saying "Niner" for the number 9.


73, Chas


- Original Message - From: "Barry" 


To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW


I have QSOed with W4BQF at 70-90 WPM (thought 
it's been a few years...) The
CW sounded fine, though don't know if Tom was 
running his K3 at the time.
Personally, I never use QSK.  I find it 
annoying to have the noise pop in

between characters.

Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their 
own.  What grates on my nerves
is hearing the newer hams start every 
transmission on 2m FM with "Copy

that," the VHF version of "please copy..."  :-)

Barry W2UP


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 problem: no tx output on 15 and 17m

[Matt VK2RQ]

Sounds to me like a dry joint or poor connection in the LPF for 15/17m. Check 
relay K11, L23 & L24, and C218-C222.

73,
Matt VK2RQ

> On 1 May 2014, at 2:18 am, "Nick Henwood"  wrote:
> 
> Any advice please?   My K2 suddenly lost tx output on 15 and 17 (actually 
> still a tiny amount - less than a watt). Still receiving OK on those bands. I 
> removed the 100w amp and the problem relates to the K2 barefoot. There is 
> common circuitry on these bands - any suggestions where to start checking pl? 
> The K2 is still working OK on all other bands.
> 73 Nick G3RWF
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[Elecraft] Contesting vs Not (re: QRO CW)

[Dave Barr]

Amateur radio operators share interest and do not share interest in the 
various aspects of this wonderful avocation.  Tolerance is something we 
all should share.  But, being a rtty contest participant, I must note my 
observation that during rtty contests, at least on 20, 15 and 10 meters 
, most contesters try to avoid the psk segments, and somewhat the JT65/9 
area (perhaps for the latter not so effectively because the remarkably 
effective low level signals may not be heard).  Remember that we only 
note the interference of those who are interfering, not the vast 
majority who do care about not interfering.   I have never seen anyone 
type "use the warc bands".


Dave, K2YG
On 4/30/2014 12:18 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Message: 29
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:18:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Harry Yingst via Elecraft
Cc:"elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
Message-ID:
<1398874731.19289.yahoomail...@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, it 
all seems pretty pointless.

In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard for 
other Amateurs.

I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 
Frequencies?are?Full
with?CW or RTTY?and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB voice 
contesters.

And the typical response from contesters are "Use the WARC Bands".

I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel special.


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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Jim Campbell]

I have my own definition of QRQ. It is anything faster than I can copy
at any given time.

73,

Jim - W4BQP
K2 #2268, KX3 #2857
Licensed since 1953
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Kevin]

The made up "radio jargon" which bothers me the most is "over and out".  
Which do you mean: over or out?  They mean very different things and 
CANNOT be used simultaneously.  However, few TV writers have any 
experience at comms.

73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 4/30/2014 9:58 AM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote:

I eight years as a flier in the Air Force during the Vietnam era and 15 years 
as  private, instrument rated pilot I do not recall ever hearing Copy That on 
the radio.  We were trained to use Niner for Nine because it was easier to be 
sure what you heard in a series of numbers.  It is really important whether you 
meant Niner thousand or Five thousand feet.  The only time I recall hearing 
Copy That was in the inane commercial where two actors were conversing with a 
series of Copy Thats.  I have heard things like Copy Niner Thousand.  To repeat 
a controllers instruction when it is very important to get it correctly.
  
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman

K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 120, Issue 72

[P.J.Hicks]

I am building a XV144 transciever for connection to my K3. I have never used a 
transverter before.  In reading the construction manual and the operators 
manual I conclude that when I switch to 10 meters on the K3 that the xv144 is 
switched in, the K3 display will indicate in the 144 mHz range and I will be tx 
& rx on 2 meters. How then do I operate on 10 meters? Do I have to disconnect 
the xv144? I don't see any instructions re. this situation?? 



PJH, N7PXY
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft]

I eight years as a flier in the Air Force during the Vietnam era and 15 years 
as  private, instrument rated pilot I do not recall ever hearing Copy That on 
the radio.  We were trained to use Niner for Nine because it was easier to be 
sure what you heard in a series of numbers.  It is really important whether you 
meant Niner thousand or Five thousand feet.  The only time I recall hearing 
Copy That was in the inane commercial where two actors were conversing with a 
series of Copy Thats.  I have heard things like Copy Niner Thousand.  To repeat 
a controllers instruction when it is very important to get it correctly.
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



 From: "Charlie T, K3ICH" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
 

I always thought the phrase "Copy That" was a holdover from either pilot or 
military lingo, much like saying "Niner" for the number 9.

73, Chas


- Original Message - 
From: "Barry" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW


>I have QSOed with W4BQF at 70-90 WPM (thought it's been a few years...) 
>The
> CW sounded fine, though don't know if Tom was running his K3 at the time.
> Personally, I never use QSK.  I find it annoying to have the noise pop in
> between characters.
>
> Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their own.  What grates on my 
> nerves
> is hearing the newer hams start every transmission on 2m FM with "Copy
> that," the VHF version of "please copy..."  :-)
>
> Barry W2UP
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: 
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/QRQ-CW-tp7588139p7588178.html
> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Igor Sokolov]

What all these postings have to do with Elecraft except that K3 is a choise 
of many contesters?
Over 50% of last WRTC participants were using Elecraft. I am sure that 
contesters  are a lion share of Elecraft customers both in number and 
volume.


73, Igor UA9CDC
User of K2, K3, KX3, KXPA100, KAT500 etc and contester :)


- Original Message - 
From: "Harry Yingst via Elecraft" 

Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW





I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, 
it all seems pretty pointless.


In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard 
for other Amateurs.


I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 
Frequencies are Full
with CW or RTTY and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB 
voice contesters.


And the typical response from contesters are "Use the WARC Bands".

I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel 
special.






From: AG0N-3055 
To: Kevin Stover 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW


On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote:


Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral
anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved.


You're talking to one of the anti crowd. It has nothing to do with
speed. It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos
of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think
there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend. Boy do I
relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a
year. The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes. If you were
into DX, there was the annual DX contest.

Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in
them. They were fun because they were special. These days, there's
nothing special at all about them. You can't even get a meaningful
signal report now. Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too
weak to copy. They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't
enjoy the bands.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] Contest QRM

[KQ8M]

I am always amazed at those that point to a chart and say there are contests 
every weekend. I only operate the big contests of which
there are 5 a year that affect each mode that I can think of. The rest are 
small and occupy very little band space if you even
notice them at all. If that really bothers you then I feel sorry for you. It 
must be tough that things bother you to that extent.

Plus, as Jim says, the WARC bands are contest free zones.

73,
Tim Herrick, KQ8M
k...@kq8m.com

AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org
User Ports: 23, 7373  with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer
Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:16 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Contest QRM

On 4/30/2014 5:53 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote:
> They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the 
> bands.

Contests always avoid the WARC bands, and most contests are a single mode -- CW 
or SSB or RTTY -- leaving lots of space for those
who don't enjoy them.

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, it 
all seems pretty pointless.

In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard for 
other Amateurs.

I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 
Frequencies are Full
with CW or RTTY and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB voice 
contesters.

And the typical response from contesters are "Use the WARC Bands".

I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel special.





 From: AG0N-3055 
To: Kevin Stover  
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
 

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote:

> Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral 
> anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved.

You're talking to one of the anti crowd.  It has nothing to do with
speed.  It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos
of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think
there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend.  Boy do I
relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a
year.  The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes.  If you were
into DX, there was the annual DX contest.

Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in
them.  They were fun because they were special.  These days, there's
nothing special at all about them.  You can't even get a meaningful
signal report now.  Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too
weak to copy.  They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't
enjoy the bands.

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[Elecraft] K2 problem: no tx output on 15 and 17m

[Nick Henwood]

Any advice please?   My K2 suddenly lost tx output on 15 and 17 (actually still 
a tiny amount - less than a watt). Still receiving OK on those bands. I removed 
the 100w amp and the problem relates to the K2 barefoot. There is common 
circuitry on these bands - any suggestions where to start checking pl? The K2 
is still working OK on all other bands.
73 Nick G3RWF
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[Elecraft] Contest QRM

[Jim Brown]

On 4/30/2014 5:53 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote:

They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't
enjoy the bands.


Contests always avoid the WARC bands, and most contests are a single 
mode -- CW or SSB or RTTY -- leaving lots of space for those who don't 
enjoy them.


73, Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] KX3 For Sale

[Ron Schwartz]

Only several months old (s/n 5428).  Loved the radio so much I upgraded to K3 
base station in order to use separate receive and transmit antennas.  The radio 
never left the desk, like new condition.  Radio is in Denver, CO.

Paid over $1400, asking $1200 with all items shown below.
KX3  (all options factory assembled and calibrated)
KX3-PCKT PCKT Accessory Cable Set
KXAT3   Auto Antenna Tuner
KXBC3   Internal NiMH Battery Charger/Clock
KXFL3   Dual-Passband Roofing Filter
MH3 Elecraft Microphone

Also includes KX3 Owner’s Manual
Fred Cady's The Elecraft KX3 Extended Manual

Ron Schwartz, K2RAS
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Carrier always 6khz below freq.

[KM4VX]

Thank you for the replies. The coax provided by Elecraft is good,  but I had
it twisted around other cables when connected between the K3 IF output and
the P3 IF input. I disconnected the cable from the P3, rerouted it from the
K3 so as not to wrap around numerous other cables, and the troublesome
inaudible carrier disappeared. Problem is now solved and maybe this
experience helps others. The connecting cable is very well made and
shielded, but direct contact with other coax/cables created RF that did get
into the P3. Ron



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[Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker

[Graham Pemberton G7NEH]

Hi all,

After working perfectly for awhile my K3 has developed the following problem, 
when I key the mike and transmit in SSB mode the audo is coming through the 
speaker while i’m transmitting, I have not got monitor turned on and this 
happens wether using the internal speaker or headphones.

I’m hoping this is just caused by me altering a parameter in the menu’s that I 
shouldn’t have done.

Thank you in advance for your help

Regards
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K3/100 #8095
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Thank you I have been watching this thread





 From: Buck - k4ia via Elecraft 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED
 

In the interest of future readers, here is what I found.

I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended.  In fact, they 
warn of going over that level.  However, when you turn on the SUB RX, 
the signal is split and you lose 3db.  This can be heard in the 
headphones.  It seems it also affects the Line Out.

When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in 
the right channel of the Line Out.  I have no idea how linear the LIN 
OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was 
needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in.

Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on 
the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx 
signal on the right channel.   I am able to compensate for this by 
turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII.  I wasn't 
able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play 
around with that some more.


Buck
k4ia

On 4/29/2014 11:43 AM, Buck - k4ia via Elecraft wrote:
> Joe - that is what I have set up.  If I turn on the Sub Rx and plug a 
> set of headphones directly into the K3 Line Out jack in the back, I 
> hear audio on the left channel only. So I don't think it is the MH 
> cable pigtail.  The problem seems to be in the K3.
>
> Sub Rx works fine in the headphone jack on the front.  This is the 
> first time I have tried to listen to the Sub Rx through the rear Line 
> Out jack.  I was hoping it was a menu setting I was missing. I will 
> check L2.  I guess you are telling me it could be "open?" Why would 
> that happen?
>
> Buck
> k4ia
>
> On 4/29/2014 9:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>> Buck,
>>
>> Where (how) are you connecting between the K3 and MK II?
>>
>> You should use a the stereo audio cable supplied with MK II to connect
>> the 3.5mm "pigtail" on the LINE OUT plug of the DB3-EL-K23 or K3R
>> cable set to the "Sub RX" jack on the back of MK II.
>>
>> Sub RX audio is present *only* when the "SUB" icon is displayed on
>> the K3 display (DUAL or DIVERSITY).  If the Sub RX is on and you
>> have audio in right headphone connected to the headphone jack but
>> no audio in the right channel (ring) of the LINE OUT (or tip of the
>> pigtail on the DB37-EL-K23/K3R) I would check L2 on the KIO3 Audio
>> I/O board.
>>
>> Check for audio directly at the LINE OUT jack and at the "pigtail"
>> in case you've snagged the pigtail and broken a wire in either jack.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote:
>>>   I played with that setting to no avail.   I am going into a Microham
>>> KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx.  If I plug
>>> headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals
>>> on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the
>>> output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer 
>>> or MKII.
>>>
>>>
>>> Buck
>>> k4ia
>>> K3# 101  KX3 #715
>>>
>>> On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:
 hmmm, what is your Line Out set to?
 mine is the recommended 010
 also is the computer a desktop or laptop?

 On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote:
> Thanks Sam but that isn't it.  I get the Sub RX audio just fine in 
> the
> headphones.
>
> What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out
> jack on the back of the radio.
>
> Buck
> k4ia
> K3# 101  KX3 #715

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[Elecraft] via Elecraft

[Reilly, John]

Why do some of the sender's names in the Elecraft Reflector have "via 
Elecraft" after their name?

  - 73, John, N0TA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED

[Buck - k4ia via Elecraft]

In the interest of future readers, here is what I found.

I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended.  In fact, they 
warn of going over that level.  However, when you turn on the SUB RX, 
the signal is split and you lose 3db.  This can be heard in the 
headphones.  It seems it also affects the Line Out.


When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in 
the right channel of the Line Out.  I have no idea how linear the LIN 
OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was 
needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in.


Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on 
the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx 
signal on the right channel.   I am able to compensate for this by 
turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII.  I wasn't 
able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play 
around with that some more.



Buck
k4ia

On 4/29/2014 11:43 AM, Buck - k4ia via Elecraft wrote:
Joe - that is what I have set up.  If I turn on the Sub Rx and plug a 
set of headphones directly into the K3 Line Out jack in the back, I 
hear audio on the left channel only. So I don't think it is the MH 
cable pigtail.  The problem seems to be in the K3.


Sub Rx works fine in the headphone jack on the front.  This is the 
first time I have tried to listen to the Sub Rx through the rear Line 
Out jack.  I was hoping it was a menu setting I was missing. I will 
check L2.  I guess you are telling me it could be "open?" Why would 
that happen?


Buck
k4ia

On 4/29/2014 9:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

Buck,

Where (how) are you connecting between the K3 and MK II?

You should use a the stereo audio cable supplied with MK II to connect
the 3.5mm "pigtail" on the LINE OUT plug of the DB3-EL-K23 or K3R
cable set to the "Sub RX" jack on the back of MK II.

Sub RX audio is present *only* when the "SUB" icon is displayed on
the K3 display (DUAL or DIVERSITY).  If the Sub RX is on and you
have audio in right headphone connected to the headphone jack but
no audio in the right channel (ring) of the LINE OUT (or tip of the
pigtail on the DB37-EL-K23/K3R) I would check L2 on the KIO3 Audio
I/O board.

Check for audio directly at the LINE OUT jack and at the "pigtail"
in case you've snagged the pigtail and broken a wire in either jack.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote:

  I played with that setting to no avail.   I am going into a Microham
KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx.  If I plug
headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals
on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the
output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer 
or MKII.



Buck
k4ia
K3# 101  KX3 #715

On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:

hmmm, what is your Line Out set to?
mine is the recommended 010
also is the computer a desktop or laptop?

On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote:
Thanks Sam but that isn't it.  I get the Sub RX audio just fine in 
the

headphones.

What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out
jack on the back of the radio.

Buck
k4ia
K3# 101  KX3 #715




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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Rick M0LEP]

On Wed 30 Apr DGB wrote:
> That's what the WARC bands are for, plenty of room there! ;-)

Yeah, right...  ;)

I don't do contests, so I tend to take big contest weekends as weekends 
for doing something else; the contest bands will be jammed with 
contesters, and the WARC bands that are open will be jammed with 
contest-avioding folk, so why bother with the radio? After all, the 
contests will be over, and there'll be space on the bands, by Monday.

As a Morse beginner (primarily motivated by Summits On The Air), 
anything from about 15wpm up is "QRQ" by my standards, and I won't 
bother trying to answer anyone going much over 25wpm, even if they are 
on a never-before-activated 10-point summit...

and if I'm on a summit and have to resort to CW (and my Morse is not 
the best, so I usually only use it when SSB isn't getting me anywhere) 
then I'll most definitely ask for QRS.

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[Elecraft] K3-KXV3A Power output

[Peter Torry]

Having just completed a recalibration of the power levels I noticed that 
the 28MHz transverter output only varies by approx. 4dB when the front 
panel power control is rotated from 0  to -10dB. Has anyone else 
experienced this and is it usual or just in my K3?  Does anyone have any 
suggestions to improve the power control range assuming its not a fault, 
or feature.


73

Peter

G3SMT
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[Elecraft] K3 with Dx Doubler

[Alfredo Velez WP3C via Elecraft]

Hi everyone

How to connect the DX Doubler with the K3, I received the cable but I 
don’t know how to connect it to the radio. I use Heil Proset and also 
Timewave DSP-59+. Any help will be well appreciated. Thanks


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Re: [Elecraft] Calibrating KTCXO3 with the XG3

[Matt Zilmer]

Typically, the Trimble Thunderbolt GPSDO 10 MHZ reference exceeds
+/-100 PPT.  Not sure of the statistics, but that's the high end of
the range Lady Heather reports.  This GPSDO outputs a slightly
distorted sine wave at around 8 dBm, which is within the K3's rated
input range.  I just leave mine connected full-time.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:25:02 -0400, you wrote:

>Slava,
>
>Most external reference sources have an output of +10 dBm or somewhere 
>around that level.
>It is not a matter of simply calibrating, the external reference is 
>intended to be connected continuously.
>Yes, there is a data table created that can be used when the reference 
>is not present.
>
>I really can't answer about the level of the XG3, but I am certain the 
>frequency accuracy it is not as tight as a real external reference - 
>rubidium standard or GPS disiplined oscillator.  The spec for the XG3 is 
>+/- 50 ppm while an external reference is typically stated in parts per 
>billion.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 4/29/2014 11:18 PM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote:
>> Hello again, everyone!
>> I just installed the K3EXREF board in my K3 and i also have the KTCXO3 unit 
>> in there from before.
>> The idea was to use the XG3 as the external 10 MHz reference for calibration.
>> I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy of the zero-beat method that i was using 
>> (or rather i wasn't thrilled with MY accuracy).
>> I think i did the procedure correctly: went to REF CAL menu, enabled the 
>> K3EXREF, hooked up the BNC cable, the asterisk started flashing, the 
>> frequency changed (clearly the zero-beat i did before wasn't correct).
>> My only question is about the output level of the XG3: i used the zero dBm. 
>> But the calibration procedure mentioned that the reference signal should be 
>> between +4 dBm and something else (higher).
>> XG3 doesn't seem to go that high though. Is that ok? Using zero dBm for this?
>>
>>
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[Elecraft] K3 with Dx Doubler

[Alfredo Velez WP3C via Elecraft]

Hi everyone

How to connect the DX Doubler with the K3, I received the cable but I
don’t know how to connect it to the radio. I use Heil Proset and also
Timewave DSP-59+. Any help will be well appreciated. Thanks

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[Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Dauer, Edward]

What I encounter frequently in contests is stations using two speeds
within each QSO.  The slower (usually ~30 WPM) sends the unique
information such as the call sign of the station being worked and the S/N
where that's required; and the higher speed (which I can't estimate) for
common exchange elements such as the ubiquitous 599 and the QTH or
whatever else is the same for every contact.  Where stations use speeds
much in excess of 35 WPM for their own call sign it does waste time, I
suspect, with others having to listen two or three times to get it down
right.  Someone with math skills better than mine might calculate how much
time is saved sending 50+ rather than 30 in a contest QSO, given the
irreducible time for the rest of the exchange (the reply, typing into the
log, waiting for the next guy in the pileup, etc.) and the probability
that the other side is sending at 30.  I'll bet it's not much.

Ted, KN1CBR
>
>--
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:07:07 +
>From: Brian Alsop 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
>Message-ID: <5360066b.7060...@nc.rr.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>There was a thread on QRQ CW here.  Also a query about does anybody send
>QRQ CW.
>
>For 2013 CQ WW contest N6TV did an analysis.
>The answer was 30+ WPM average.
>The top speeds were in excess of 50 WPM!
>
>See: http://cqww.com/blog/?p=302
>
>With all the K3's being used by contesters, it doesn't appear that
>contesters are running into QSD problems at 30+ WPM.
>
>73 de Brian/K3KO
>
>
>-
>
>>  When did it creep that low?  I
>> suppose it is a victim of the lack of CW requirement or something like
>>that.
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[DGB]

That's what the WARC bands are for, plenty of room there! ;-)

73 de NS9I  -  .   ..  -

On 4/30/2014 7:53 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote:

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote:


Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral
anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved.

You're talking to one of the anti crowd.  It has nothing to do with
speed.  It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos
of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think
there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend.  Boy do I
relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a
year.  The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes.  If you were
into DX, there was the annual DX contest.

Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in
them.  They were fun because they were special.  These days, there's
nothing special at all about them.  You can't even get a meaningful
signal report now.  Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too
weak to copy.  They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't
enjoy the bands.

Gary


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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

I always thought the phrase "Copy That" was a holdover from either pilot or 
military lingo, much like saying "Niner" for the number 9.


73, Chas


- Original Message - 
From: "Barry" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW


I have QSOed with W4BQF at 70-90 WPM (thought it's been a few years...) 
The

CW sounded fine, though don't know if Tom was running his K3 at the time.
Personally, I never use QSK.  I find it annoying to have the noise pop in
between characters.

Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their own.  What grates on my 
nerves

is hearing the newer hams start every transmission on 2m FM with "Copy
that," the VHF version of "please copy..."  :-)

Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Phil Wheeler]

I'm with you on this, Gary. Too many contests 
cluttering the bands these days; the list for one 
month fills a page or more. In the past I 
participated casually. Nowadays, not at all.


Phil w7ox

On 4/30/14, 5:53 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote:

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote:


Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral
anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved.

You're talking to one of the anti crowd.  It has nothing to do with
speed.  It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos
of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think
there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend.  Boy do I
relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a
year.  The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes.  If you were
into DX, there was the annual DX contest.

Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in
them.  They were fun because they were special.  These days, there's
nothing special at all about them.  You can't even get a meaningful
signal report now.  Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too
weak to copy.  They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't
enjoy the bands.

Gary


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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Barry]

I have QSOed with W4BQF at 70-90 WPM (thought it's been a few years...)  The
CW sounded fine, though don't know if Tom was running his K3 at the time. 
Personally, I never use QSK.  I find it annoying to have the noise pop in
between characters.

Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their own.  What grates on my nerves
is hearing the newer hams start every transmission on 2m FM with "Copy
that," the VHF version of "please copy..."  :-)

Barry W2UP



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[Elecraft] [OT] Fred, K6DGW - Ken, K0PP email...

[Dave Van Wallaghen]

If you'll permit me one more OT post. Fred and Ken - I have sent each of 
you a couple of private emails in the past couple of weeks. But I'm not 
sure if they are getting through. I've been having some sending problems 
with my Comcast accounts that started a few weeks ago when they sort of 
acknowledged that they had a massive security breach.


Anyway, I can see your posts to the list, so if you can let me know if 
you received anything, I would appreciate it. If not, I can try to use a 
different mail carrier.


73,
Dave W8FGU


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Re: [Elecraft] Calibrating KTCXO3 with the XG3

[Don Wilhelm]

Slava,

Most external reference sources have an output of +10 dBm or somewhere 
around that level.
It is not a matter of simply calibrating, the external reference is 
intended to be connected continuously.
Yes, there is a data table created that can be used when the reference 
is not present.


I really can't answer about the level of the XG3, but I am certain the 
frequency accuracy it is not as tight as a real external reference - 
rubidium standard or GPS disiplined oscillator.  The spec for the XG3 is 
+/- 50 ppm while an external reference is typically stated in parts per 
billion.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/29/2014 11:18 PM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote:

Hello again, everyone!
I just installed the K3EXREF board in my K3 and i also have the KTCXO3 unit in 
there from before.
The idea was to use the XG3 as the external 10 MHz reference for calibration.
I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy of the zero-beat method that i was using 
(or rather i wasn't thrilled with MY accuracy).
I think i did the procedure correctly: went to REF CAL menu, enabled the 
K3EXREF, hooked up the BNC cable, the asterisk started flashing, the frequency 
changed (clearly the zero-beat i did before wasn't correct).
My only question is about the output level of the XG3: i used the zero dBm. But 
the calibration procedure mentioned that the reference signal should be between 
+4 dBm and something else (higher).
XG3 doesn't seem to go that high though. Is that ok? Using zero dBm for this?




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[Elecraft] [OT] W8FGU Out of service for awhile

[Dave Van Wallaghen]

My apologies to the list for the bandwidth. But I wanted to let all of 
my current and near future customers know that my shop will be closed 
down for the next week or so. I have a fire suppression system in my 
home (required here when you live more than 500' from a hydrant) and it 
suffered a pipe break located where I have my shop setup in the 
basement. Unfortunately, I have water every where and on a lot on my 
power tools.


I'm heading to a big box store right now to get the parts to fix the 
break, but the clean up is going to take some time. This occurred late 
last night and I already have rust on all my saw tables and the like. 
Water sure is good for putting out fires, but comes with it's own set of 
problems.


I can certainly still take enclosure orders, but just know that it may 
take a few days to a week to put them together.


Thanks for the bandwidth.

73,
Dave W8FGU


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