Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
Below is the actual data and link to the public source of Rick's comment about rigs used in WRTC. 73, Bill W4ZV P.S. In case others missed it there was a major firmware update (MCU 4.86 DSP 2.83) on June 10. For some reason there was no announcement about it (see http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm ) WRTC data: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/aocc/2014-July/016712.html Andy N2NT is still collecting data, but his preliminary release showed the following breakdown of radios used at WRTC2014 for 91 radios he compiled. I'll show the final when he releases it, maybe later this week. Not surprising figures, as the K3 has a lot of features in a small package. Great for worldwide travel. It should be noted that at least 2 of the IC7600's were loaners from sponsor Icom. One pair went to the YL Team of DL1QQ/DL8DYL, who finished well, 21st. More when I know more. 73, Bob K8IA - K3 63 IC7600 6 TS590 5 FTdx5000 5 FT1000MP 3 IC7800 2 FT1000D 2 IC756pro3 2 Other (IC7700, FT3000, TS850) 3 91 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/WRTC-2014-Congratulations-Elecraft-tp7591534p7591535.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
We are considering the installation of a generator here for times when, for one reason or another, commercial power is unavailable.Our electrician has recommended a Generac generator. I would welcome comments from this august and knowledgeable group about these generators regarding reliability and RFI emissions or, preferably the lack of RFI! Please reply off list to sco...@sandycove-ns.ca 73 TIA John, VE1JS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
That's more lopsided (2/3 K3's) than the first WRTC after the K3 came out (1/2 K3's). 73, Guy. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Below is the actual data and link to the public source of Rick's comment about rigs used in WRTC. 73, Bill W4ZV P.S. In case others missed it there was a major firmware update (MCU 4.86 DSP 2.83) on June 10. For some reason there was no announcement about it (see http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm ) WRTC data: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/aocc/2014-July/016712.html Andy N2NT is still collecting data, but his preliminary release showed the following breakdown of radios used at WRTC2014 for 91 radios he compiled. I'll show the final when he releases it, maybe later this week. Not surprising figures, as the K3 has a lot of features in a small package. Great for worldwide travel. It should be noted that at least 2 of the IC7600's were loaners from sponsor Icom. One pair went to the YL Team of DL1QQ/DL8DYL, who finished well, 21st. More when I know more. 73, Bob K8IA - K3 63 IC7600 6 TS590 5 FTdx5000 5 FT1000MP 3 IC7800 2 FT1000D 2 IC756pro3 2 Other (IC7700, FT3000, TS850) 3 91 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/WRTC-2014-Congratulations-Elecraft-tp7591534p7591535.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2av@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
It appears the official report of transceivers and software is here: http://www.wrtc2014.org/radios-and-software-used/ The K3 was used by more than four times as many competitors than rigs from any other manufacturer (Elecraft: 75, Yaesu: 16, Icom: 15, Kenwood: 8, Ten-Tec: 2). Interestingly, 41 of the 59 teams (nearly 70%) used a K3. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-07-24 5:57 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: Below is the actual data and link to the public source of Rick's comment about rigs used in WRTC. 73, Bill W4ZV P.S. In case others missed it there was a major firmware update (MCU 4.86 DSP 2.83) on June 10. For some reason there was no announcement about it (see http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm ) WRTC data: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/aocc/2014-July/016712.html Andy N2NT is still collecting data, but his preliminary release showed the following breakdown of radios used at WRTC2014 for 91 radios he compiled. I'll show the final when he releases it, maybe later this week. Not surprising figures, as the K3 has a lot of features in a small package. Great for worldwide travel. It should be noted that at least 2 of the IC7600's were loaners from sponsor Icom. One pair went to the YL Team of DL1QQ/DL8DYL, who finished well, 21st. More when I know more. 73, Bob K8IA - K3 63 IC7600 6 TS590 5 FTdx5000 5 FT1000MP 3 IC7800 2 FT1000D 2 IC756pro3 2 Other (IC7700, FT3000, TS850) 3 91 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/WRTC-2014-Congratulations-Elecraft-tp7591534p7591535.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
I would also recommend that. Very little trouble. On Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:30 AM, John Scott sco...@sandycove-ns.ca wrote: We are considering the installation of a generator here for times when, for one reason or another, commercial power is unavailable.Our electrician has recommended a Generac generator. I would welcome comments from this august and knowledgeable group about these generators regarding reliability and RFI emissions or, preferably the lack of RFI! Please reply off list to sco...@sandycove-ns.ca 73 TIA John, VE1JS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wd8...@sbcglobal.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Announcement list news?
any progress on an Announcement list, as mentioned in this email from Eric on 6/27/2014 10:36 AM in his Re: [Elecraft] Do we need 2 groups? post where he said: quote Gentlemen, As per the list guidelines and in the interest of keeping list traffic reasonable, please avoid discussing list requests, splitting lists etc on the list. Emailing the moderator is always OK though. We -are- planning on setting up a parallel Elecraft announcement only list in the near future. Stay tuned. 73, Eric Moderator elecraft.com /quote I ask because I also missed any announcement of the last K3 firmware update, until Bill W4ZV just mentioned it in his Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update) post, where he said: quote P.S. In case others missed it there was a major firmware update (MCU 4.86 DSP 2.83) on June 10. For some reason there was no announcement about it (see http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm ) /quote TIA -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
John What size of a generator are you going to use? Also what kind of loads are you going to be running? I have experience with all different types, styles, and sizes of generators because of off grid living. Although mine are now used to only charge the battery bank in multiple days of bad weather. I have had the big propane ones that run the whole house. Gerald - KC6CNN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
We also have a Generac generator, and ATS. I believe it's about 20kW, the largest they sell that is NOT water cooled. I didn't want a car engine... Our house has two 200A panels inside, and being in South Carolina (hot, muggy), we have three air conditioning units, including mini-split for the ham shack, plus all electric kitchen (induction cooktop), and other high-current things. I tried several electricians, all of whom wanted to install 30+kW, water-cooled generators, which I could not afford. We finally found an electrician (as part of a kitchen remodel) that was smarter than the average one, and he was familiar with the Generac Nexus (sp) line of Smart Switches. These are add-ons to the ATS that manage generator loading by cutting back heavy loads if the generator gets bogged down. They add a switch to each identified load, and the ATS controls how those switches get managed. We've had the generator run a few times, and I've seen the ATS cutting back the load at least once. I'm usually home during outages, so I can manually trip breakers to manage the load myself, but it's nice to see that the system works even if we aren't home. So far, I've been really happy with this setup. 73, Terry, WB4JFI -Original Message- From: Philip Carter Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:00 AM To: John Scott ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators I would also recommend that. Very little trouble. On Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:30 AM, John Scott sco...@sandycove-ns.ca wrote: We are considering the installation of a generator here for times when, for one reason or another, commercial power is unavailable.Our electrician has recommended a Generac generator. I would welcome comments from this august and knowledgeable group about these generators regarding reliability and RFI emissions or, preferably the lack of RFI! Please reply off list to sco...@sandycove-ns.ca 73 TIA John, VE1JS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wd8...@sbcglobal.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb4...@knology.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
Hi John The easy part is the size and if it produces power. The hard part is the RFI noise, so, somehow, you need to figure out a way to actually test this in the field (no pun intended) so you can actually hear if there is any RFI issues. I would look for similar installations or reference customers from the vendor. Your electrician may or may not have knowledge of dealing with radio interference. Ask the hard questions so that you get a good answer and make sure you also write it into the purchase agreement. If you don't then the vendor may walk away since RFI is very hard to measure for most other than those on this list. Good luck! Mike va3mw On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:36 AM, wb4...@knology.net wrote: We also have a Generac generator, and ATS. I believe it's about 20kW, the largest they sell that is NOT water cooled. I didn't want a car engine... Our house has two 200A panels inside, and being in South Carolina (hot, muggy), we have three air conditioning units, including mini-split for the ham shack, plus all electric kitchen (induction cooktop), and other high-current things. I tried several electricians, all of whom wanted to install 30+kW, water-cooled generators, which I could not afford. We finally found an electrician (as part of a kitchen remodel) that was smarter than the average one, and he was familiar with the Generac Nexus (sp) line of Smart Switches. These are add-ons to the ATS that manage generator loading by cutting back heavy loads if the generator gets bogged down. They add a switch to each identified load, and the ATS controls how those switches get managed. We've had the generator run a few times, and I've seen the ATS cutting back the load at least once. I'm usually home during outages, so I can manually trip breakers to manage the load myself, but it's nice to see that the system works even if we aren't home. So far, I've been really happy with this setup. 73, Terry, WB4JFI -Original Message- From: Philip Carter Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:00 AM To: John Scott ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators I would also recommend that. Very little trouble. On Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:30 AM, John Scott sco...@sandycove-ns.ca wrote: We are considering the installation of a generator here for times when, for one reason or another, commercial power is unavailable.Our electrician has recommended a Generac generator. I would welcome comments from this august and knowledgeable group about these generators regarding reliability and RFI emissions or, preferably the lack of RFI! Please reply off list to sco...@sandycove-ns.ca 73 TIA John, VE1JS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wd8...@sbcglobal.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb4...@knology.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to va...@portcredit.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
The house that my girlfriend and I are currently renting has a 14KW Generac Guardian Series standby generator. I need to go pull the battery out and charge it, I suspect that the battery charging circuit isn't working right because of a bad onboard control panel. Ours powers everything except the room where the shack is, the washer, dryer and stove. As I've never had the generator fire up while I've had an HF radio, I have no clue what kind of hash or other RFI will become audible when it's running. As we live in the country, we keep our generator in manual mode and if we decide we need it, we will fire it up. We pay for our propane as we use it, so we'll decide if we want to incur the expense. 73, Joshua Gould K8WXA EM89pn On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Michael Walker va...@portcredit.net wrote: Hi John The easy part is the size and if it produces power. The hard part is the RFI noise, so, somehow, you need to figure out a way to actually test this in the field (no pun intended) so you can actually hear if there is any RFI issues. I would look for similar installations or reference customers from the vendor. Your electrician may or may not have knowledge of dealing with radio interference. Ask the hard questions so that you get a good answer and make sure you also write it into the purchase agreement. If you don't then the vendor may walk away since RFI is very hard to measure for most other than those on this list. Good luck! Mike va3mw On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:36 AM, wb4...@knology.net wrote: We also have a Generac generator, and ATS. I believe it's about 20kW, the largest they sell that is NOT water cooled. I didn't want a car engine... Our house has two 200A panels inside, and being in South Carolina (hot, muggy), we have three air conditioning units, including mini-split for the ham shack, plus all electric kitchen (induction cooktop), and other high-current things. I tried several electricians, all of whom wanted to install 30+kW, water-cooled generators, which I could not afford. We finally found an electrician (as part of a kitchen remodel) that was smarter than the average one, and he was familiar with the Generac Nexus (sp) line of Smart Switches. These are add-ons to the ATS that manage generator loading by cutting back heavy loads if the generator gets bogged down. They add a switch to each identified load, and the ATS controls how those switches get managed. We've had the generator run a few times, and I've seen the ATS cutting back the load at least once. I'm usually home during outages, so I can manually trip breakers to manage the load myself, but it's nice to see that the system works even if we aren't home. So far, I've been really happy with this setup. 73, Terry, WB4JFI -Original Message- From: Philip Carter Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:00 AM To: John Scott ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators I would also recommend that. Very little trouble. On Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:30 AM, John Scott sco...@sandycove-ns.ca wrote: We are considering the installation of a generator here for times when, for one reason or another, commercial power is unavailable.Our electrician has recommended a Generac generator. I would welcome comments from this august and knowledgeable group about these generators regarding reliability and RFI emissions or, preferably the lack of RFI! Please reply off list to sco...@sandycove-ns.ca 73 TIA John, VE1JS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wd8...@sbcglobal.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb4...@knology.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to va...@portcredit.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list
[Elecraft] Duty Cycle on the K144XV transverter?
I am going to be running FSK441 on 2M meteor scatter and wondering what the duty cycle is on the transverter in my K3. Getting ready to start searching for an amplifier. 73s Jim, W4ATK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
John, For a number of years I have had a 16KW Generac Quite Source. Compared to my next door neighbor's 7.5KW BS, the Generac is very quiet. Power here in upstate NY seems to go out several times a year and sometimes for multiple days. Thank goodness I am on natural gas for the house. Also, the battery is continuously trickle charged. Plus the generator runs at half-speed for around 15 minutes once a week as a test. But the generator doesn't switch over power during this test. My 12V supplies or any other household devices do not have any issues with the waveform coming out of the generator. Neither does my Acom 2000A. I have not tried yet my KPA500 under generator power. I have to remember to try that. The only issue seems to be my Geochron. It loses some time on extended generator periods. Once a year I use a Generac kit to replace the air filter and spark plugs. They are cheap online. I check oil (synthetic) every couple of months. I have detected no noise from the generator while operating. The only thing I had to do was change the setting on my old UPS (10 years) units so that they were less sensitive to the waveform from the generator. My newer UPS units did not show this problem. By the way the waveform looks a little weird on the scope. At the time I bought the generator 16KW was the biggest Quite Source. If I was buying today I would get a larger quiet source so that all I would have is a transfer switch between the meter and the 200A main Breaker box. With the 16KW I had to add a separate switch over breaker box. The only things not on the generator breaker box are the second air handler, ovens and clothes dryer. So, not much of a compromise when on generator power. Thinking of adding a battery and charger setup so that when we get a power glitch the K3's and other 12V devices stay on. Computers and their peripheral devise are on UPS. I am sure besides Generac there are other good choices in whole house generators. GL N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Scott Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:30 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators We are considering the installation of a generator here for times when, for one reason or another, commercial power is unavailable.Our electrician has recommended a Generac generator. I would welcome comments from this august and knowledgeable group about these generators regarding reliability and RFI emissions or, preferably the lack of RFI! Please reply off list to sco...@sandycove-ns.ca 73 TIA John, VE1JS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tony@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
Here they are sorted in order of finish: # Call Team RADIO 1 RADIO 2 SOFTWARE 1 K1A N6MJ / KL9A IC7800IC7800WINTEST 2 W1L OM3BH / OM3GIK3IC7600WINTEST 3 W1P DJ5MW / DL1IAO IC756-3 IC756-3 WINTEST 4 W1Z N5DX / N2IC K3K3N1MM 5 N1M K9VV / VE3EJ K3K3N1MM 6 W1A LY9A / LY4L FT3000FT1000MP WINTEST 7 W1D K1LZ / YT6W IC7800IC7800WINTEST 8 N1K DK6XZ / DK9IPK3K3WINTEST 9 K1D UR0MC / VE3DZK3K3N1MM 10 K1V G0CKV / M0DXRK3K3WINTEST 11 K1L S50A / S57AW K3K3N1MM 12 K1S W2SC / N2NL K3K3WRITELOG 13 K1K RL3FT / RA3COK3K3WINTEST 14 W1S F8DBF / F1AKKTS590 TS850 WINTEST 15 W1M 4O3A / HA1AG K3K3WINTEST 16 N1F RW1A / RA1A FTDX5000 FT1000MP WINTEST 17 N1G RX3APM / RV1AW K3K3WINTEST 18 N1Z PY1NX / LZ3YYK3K3N1MM 19 N1R UA3DPX / UA4FER K3K3WINTEST 20 K1R N4YDU / N3KS K3K3N1MM 21 N1A DL1QQ / DL8DYL IC7600IC7600WINTEST 22 K1N OE3DIA / E77DX K3K3WINTEST 23 K1I UU4JMG / UU0JM K3K3WINTEST 24 W1W OH2UA / OH6KZP FTDX5000 FTDX5000 WINTEST 25 W1C 9A5K / 9A1TT IC756-3 IC756-3 DXLOG 26 K1G 9A6XX / 9A1UNFT1000MP FT1000MP WINTEST 27 K1P M0CFW / GI0RTN K3K3WINTEST 28 K1C KE3X / K0DQ K3FTDX5000 WINTEST 29 K1T IZ1LBG / WQ2NK3IC7600WINTEST 30 N1O RC9O / UA9PM K3K3WINTEST 31 N1T ES5TV / ES2RRFTDX5000 FTDX5000 WINTEST 32 W1U LZ4AX / LZ3FNK3K3N1MM 33 K1Z VE7CC / VE7SVK3K3N1MM 34 K1W K6AM / N6AN K3K3WINTEST 35 N1V K7RL / KL2A K3K3N1MM 36 N1U K8MR / K9NW K3K3WINTEST 37 N1L KU1CW / EA5GTQ K3K3N1MM 38 N1W PY2YU / PY2NDX K3K3WINTEST 39 W1F CT1ILT / CT1BOH K3TS590 WINTEST 40 W1O OM2VL / OM3RMK3IC7600WINTEST 41 W1N 5B4WN / 5B4AFM K3K3WINTEST 42 W1V R9DX / UA9CDVK3K3WINTEST 43 W1G F4DXW / F8CMFK3K3WINTEST 44 N1S LX2A / YO3JR TS590 TS590 WINTEST 45 N1D NR5M / W2GD K3IC7700WINTEST 46 W1T AD4Z / W4UH Orion II Orion II N1MM 47 W1R OH2BH / OH2MMFTDX5000 FTDX5000 WINTEST 48 W1B OE2VEL / OE5OHO FT3000K3WINTEST 49 N1C IK2NCJ / IK2QEI K3K3WINTEST 50 N1P CX6VM / LU1FAM K3K3N1MM 51 N1B YL1ZF / YL2GQT k3k3WINTEST 52 W1I W2RE / WW2DX K3K3N1MM 53 N1N KH6ND / KH6SHFT1000MP FT1000MP WRITELOG 54 K1B W9RE / N5OT K3K3N1MM 55 K1F VY2ZM / KK6ZMFT1000D FT1000D WINTEST 56 W1K BA5CW / BA7IOK3K3N1MM 57 K1O JH5GHM / JA1OJE TS590 IC7600SKOOKUMLOGGER 58 K1M IK1HJS / I4UFH K3K3WINTEST 59 K1U KF5EYY / YT1AD TS590 TS590 WINTEST 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 7/24/14 6:44 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: It appears the official report of transceivers and software is here: http://www.wrtc2014.org/radios-and-software-used/ The K3 was used by more than four times as many competitors than rigs from any other manufacturer (Elecraft: 75, Yaesu: 16, Icom: 15, Kenwood: 8, Ten-Tec: 2). Interestingly, 41 of the 59 teams (nearly 70%) used a K3. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-07-24 5:57 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: Below is the actual data and link to the public source of Rick's comment about rigs used in WRTC. 73, Bill W4ZV P.S. In case others missed it there was a major firmware update (MCU 4.86 DSP 2.83) on June 10. For some reason there was no announcement about it (see http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm ) WRTC data: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/aocc/2014-July/016712.html Andy N2NT is still collecting data, but his preliminary release showed the following breakdown of radios used at WRTC2014 for 91 radios he compiled. I'll show the final when he releases it, maybe later this week. Not surprising figures, as the K3 has a lot of features in a small package. Great for worldwide travel. It should be noted that at least 2 of the IC7600's were loaners from sponsor Icom. One pair went to the YL Team of DL1QQ/DL8DYL, who finished well, 21st. More when I know more. 73, Bob K8IA - K3 63 IC7600 6 TS590 5 FTdx5000 5 FT1000MP 3 IC7800 2 FT1000D 2 IC756pro3 2 Other (IC7700, FT3000, TS850) 3 91 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/WRTC-2014-Congratulations-Elecraft-tp7591534p7591535.html Sent from the Elecraft
Re: [Elecraft] Duty Cycle on the K144XV transverter?
Jim, As with nearly all transmitters, it is a matter of heat. If you have adequate cooling on the left side of the K3, then the internal transverter will be capable of a very high duty cycle. If it is blocked and in a warm room, then the duty cycle will be significantly lower. You might want to monitor the side panel temperature and run the unit into a dummy load and find out the heat profile for the duty cycle you expect to run in the ambient environment of your particular station. Vary the power output and/or cooling (a fan, for example) and see how that affects it. 73, Lyle KK7P I am going to be running FSK441 on 2M meteor scatter and wondering what the duty cycle is on the transverter in my K3. Getting ready to start searching for an amplifier. 73s Jim, W4ATK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Duty Cycle on the K144XV transverter?
Hi Jim, I have used my K3+K144XV extensively on a 2 m Meteor Scatter expedition last year. Besides high ambient temperature during the expedition also the K144XV develops heat quite quickly. It does not take longer than 5-6 WSJT transmit cycles for it to get warm enough it starts reducing output power. The longer it runs, the worse the power reduction (my one started at 9 watts out and settled at about 5.5 watts after half an hour running FSK441). What helps a bit is a fan oriented on the left side of the radio as the K144XV uses the side panel for cooling. Even better is not to run the transverter at full power out. So as you are just starting searching for an amp I'd suggest to look for one that just needs 5 watts input and drive the K144XV at that level. Takes away a lot of stress from the finals, too, I'd suppose. But still a fan might be useful if you'll do it for a few hours (like I did). 73, Olli - DH8BQA Jim Rogers jim.w4...@gmail.com hat am 24. Juli 2014 um 15:18 geschrieben: I am going to be running FSK441 on 2M meteor scatter and wondering what the duty cycle is on the transverter in my K3. Getting ready to start searching for an amplifier. 73s Jim, W4ATK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dro...@necg.de __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
Other excellent U.S. companies making generators are Winco (www.wincogen.com) and Gillette (www.gillettegenerators.com). I'm sorry, I don't have direct experience wrt RFI. Maybe contact the manufacturer directly for info. 73, Josh W6XU On 7/24/2014 3:30 AM, John Scott wrote: We are considering the installation of a generator here for times when, for one reason or another, commercial power is unavailable.Our electrician has recommended a Generac generator. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
And also note that WinTest was number one logging software. 73, Guy On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM, dave ho13d...@gmail.com wrote: Here they are sorted in order of finish: # Call Team RADIO 1 RADIO 2 SOFTWARE 1 K1A N6MJ / KL9A IC7800IC7800WINTEST 2 W1L OM3BH / OM3GIK3IC7600WINTEST 3 W1P DJ5MW / DL1IAO IC756-3 IC756-3 WINTEST 4 W1Z N5DX / N2IC K3K3N1MM 5 N1M K9VV / VE3EJ K3K3N1MM 6 W1A LY9A / LY4L FT3000FT1000MP WINTEST 7 W1D K1LZ / YT6W IC7800IC7800WINTEST 8 N1K DK6XZ / DK9IPK3K3WINTEST 9 K1D UR0MC / VE3DZK3K3N1MM 10 K1V G0CKV / M0DXRK3K3WINTEST 11 K1L S50A / S57AW K3K3N1MM 12 K1S W2SC / N2NL K3K3WRITELOG 13 K1K RL3FT / RA3COK3K3WINTEST 14 W1S F8DBF / F1AKKTS590 TS850 WINTEST 15 W1M 4O3A / HA1AG K3K3WINTEST 16 N1F RW1A / RA1A FTDX5000 FT1000MP WINTEST 17 N1G RX3APM / RV1AW K3K3WINTEST 18 N1Z PY1NX / LZ3YYK3K3N1MM 19 N1R UA3DPX / UA4FER K3K3WINTEST 20 K1R N4YDU / N3KS K3K3N1MM 21 N1A DL1QQ / DL8DYL IC7600IC7600WINTEST 22 K1N OE3DIA / E77DX K3K3WINTEST 23 K1I UU4JMG / UU0JM K3K3WINTEST 24 W1W OH2UA / OH6KZP FTDX5000 FTDX5000 WINTEST 25 W1C 9A5K / 9A1TT IC756-3 IC756-3 DXLOG 26 K1G 9A6XX / 9A1UNFT1000MP FT1000MP WINTEST 27 K1P M0CFW / GI0RTN K3K3WINTEST 28 K1C KE3X / K0DQ K3FTDX5000 WINTEST 29 K1T IZ1LBG / WQ2NK3IC7600WINTEST 30 N1O RC9O / UA9PM K3K3WINTEST 31 N1T ES5TV / ES2RRFTDX5000 FTDX5000 WINTEST 32 W1U LZ4AX / LZ3FNK3K3N1MM 33 K1Z VE7CC / VE7SVK3K3N1MM 34 K1W K6AM / N6AN K3K3WINTEST 35 N1V K7RL / KL2A K3K3N1MM 36 N1U K8MR / K9NW K3K3WINTEST 37 N1L KU1CW / EA5GTQ K3K3N1MM 38 N1W PY2YU / PY2NDX K3K3WINTEST 39 W1F CT1ILT / CT1BOH K3TS590 WINTEST 40 W1O OM2VL / OM3RMK3IC7600WINTEST 41 W1N 5B4WN / 5B4AFM K3K3WINTEST 42 W1V R9DX / UA9CDVK3K3WINTEST 43 W1G F4DXW / F8CMFK3K3WINTEST 44 N1S LX2A / YO3JR TS590 TS590 WINTEST 45 N1D NR5M / W2GD K3IC7700WINTEST 46 W1T AD4Z / W4UH Orion II Orion II N1MM 47 W1R OH2BH / OH2MMFTDX5000 FTDX5000 WINTEST 48 W1B OE2VEL / OE5OHO FT3000K3WINTEST 49 N1C IK2NCJ / IK2QEI K3K3WINTEST 50 N1P CX6VM / LU1FAM K3K3N1MM 51 N1B YL1ZF / YL2GQT k3k3WINTEST 52 W1I W2RE / WW2DX K3K3N1MM 53 N1N KH6ND / KH6SHFT1000MP FT1000MP WRITELOG 54 K1B W9RE / N5OT K3K3N1MM 55 K1F VY2ZM / KK6ZMFT1000D FT1000D WINTEST 56 W1K BA5CW / BA7IOK3K3N1MM 57 K1O JH5GHM / JA1OJE TS590 IC7600SKOOKUMLOGGER 58 K1M IK1HJS / I4UFH K3K3WINTEST 59 K1U KF5EYY / YT1AD TS590 TS590 WINTEST 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 7/24/14 6:44 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: It appears the official report of transceivers and software is here: http://www.wrtc2014.org/radios-and-software-used/ The K3 was used by more than four times as many competitors than rigs from any other manufacturer (Elecraft: 75, Yaesu: 16, Icom: 15, Kenwood: 8, Ten-Tec: 2). Interestingly, 41 of the 59 teams (nearly 70%) used a K3. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-07-24 5:57 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: Below is the actual data and link to the public source of Rick's comment about rigs used in WRTC. 73, Bill W4ZV P.S. In case others missed it there was a major firmware update (MCU 4.86 DSP 2.83) on June 10. For some reason there was no announcement about it (see http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm ) WRTC data: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/aocc/2014-July/016712.html Andy N2NT is still collecting data, but his preliminary release showed the following breakdown of radios used at WRTC2014 for 91 radios he compiled. I'll show the final when he releases it, maybe later this week. Not surprising figures, as the K3 has a lot of features in a small package. Great for worldwide travel. It should be noted that at least 2 of the IC7600's were loaners from sponsor Icom. One pair went to the YL Team of DL1QQ/DL8DYL, who finished well, 21st. More when I know more. 73, Bob K8IA - K3 63 IC7600 6 TS590 5 FTdx5000 5
Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
On 2014-07-24 12:56 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: And also note that WinTest was number one logging software. Only due to two accidents - the large number of European teams and that WRTC does not include any RTTY component. When one looks at teams from the Americas, N1MM Logger was the more popular logger. When one looks at the top performers in digital mode contests the results show a much higher percentage of N1MM logger and WriteLog users. Win-Test has its pace if one is stuck on a user interface from the last century and is only concerned for CW (not that either is necessarily bad). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM, dave ho13d...@gmail.com wrote: Here they are sorted in order of finish: # Call Team RADIO 1 RADIO 2 SOFTWARE 1 K1A N6MJ / KL9A IC7800IC7800WINTEST 2 W1L OM3BH / OM3GIK3IC7600WINTEST 3 W1P DJ5MW / DL1IAO IC756-3 IC756-3 WINTEST 4 W1Z N5DX / N2IC K3K3N1MM 5 N1M K9VV / VE3EJ K3K3N1MM 6 W1A LY9A / LY4L FT3000FT1000MP WINTEST 7 W1D K1LZ / YT6W IC7800IC7800WINTEST 8 N1K DK6XZ / DK9IPK3K3WINTEST 9 K1D UR0MC / VE3DZK3K3N1MM 10 K1V G0CKV / M0DXRK3K3WINTEST 11 K1L S50A / S57AW K3K3N1MM 12 K1S W2SC / N2NL K3K3WRITELOG 13 K1K RL3FT / RA3COK3K3WINTEST 14 W1S F8DBF / F1AKKTS590 TS850 WINTEST 15 W1M 4O3A / HA1AG K3K3WINTEST 16 N1F RW1A / RA1A FTDX5000 FT1000MP WINTEST 17 N1G RX3APM / RV1AW K3K3WINTEST 18 N1Z PY1NX / LZ3YYK3K3N1MM 19 N1R UA3DPX / UA4FER K3K3WINTEST 20 K1R N4YDU / N3KS K3K3N1MM 21 N1A DL1QQ / DL8DYL IC7600IC7600WINTEST 22 K1N OE3DIA / E77DX K3K3WINTEST 23 K1I UU4JMG / UU0JM K3K3WINTEST 24 W1W OH2UA / OH6KZP FTDX5000 FTDX5000 WINTEST 25 W1C 9A5K / 9A1TT IC756-3 IC756-3 DXLOG 26 K1G 9A6XX / 9A1UNFT1000MP FT1000MP WINTEST 27 K1P M0CFW / GI0RTN K3K3WINTEST 28 K1C KE3X / K0DQ K3FTDX5000 WINTEST 29 K1T IZ1LBG / WQ2NK3IC7600WINTEST 30 N1O RC9O / UA9PM K3K3WINTEST 31 N1T ES5TV / ES2RRFTDX5000 FTDX5000 WINTEST 32 W1U LZ4AX / LZ3FNK3K3N1MM 33 K1Z VE7CC / VE7SVK3K3N1MM 34 K1W K6AM / N6AN K3K3WINTEST 35 N1V K7RL / KL2A K3K3N1MM 36 N1U K8MR / K9NW K3K3WINTEST 37 N1L KU1CW / EA5GTQ K3K3N1MM 38 N1W PY2YU / PY2NDX K3K3WINTEST 39 W1F CT1ILT / CT1BOH K3TS590 WINTEST 40 W1O OM2VL / OM3RMK3IC7600WINTEST 41 W1N 5B4WN / 5B4AFM K3K3WINTEST 42 W1V R9DX / UA9CDVK3K3WINTEST 43 W1G F4DXW / F8CMFK3K3WINTEST 44 N1S LX2A / YO3JR TS590 TS590 WINTEST 45 N1D NR5M / W2GD K3IC7700WINTEST 46 W1T AD4Z / W4UH Orion II Orion II N1MM 47 W1R OH2BH / OH2MMFTDX5000 FTDX5000 WINTEST 48 W1B OE2VEL / OE5OHO FT3000K3WINTEST 49 N1C IK2NCJ / IK2QEI K3K3WINTEST 50 N1P CX6VM / LU1FAM K3K3N1MM 51 N1B YL1ZF / YL2GQT k3k3WINTEST 52 W1I W2RE / WW2DX K3K3N1MM 53 N1N KH6ND / KH6SHFT1000MP FT1000MP WRITELOG 54 K1B W9RE / N5OT K3K3N1MM 55 K1F VY2ZM / KK6ZMFT1000D FT1000D WINTEST 56 W1K BA5CW / BA7IOK3K3N1MM 57 K1O JH5GHM / JA1OJE TS590 IC7600SKOOKUMLOGGER 58 K1M IK1HJS / I4UFH K3K3WINTEST 59 K1U KF5EYY / YT1AD TS590 TS590 WINTEST 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 7/24/14 6:44 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: It appears the official report of transceivers and software is here: http://www.wrtc2014.org/radios-and-software-used/ The K3 was used by more than four times as many competitors than rigs from any other manufacturer (Elecraft: 75, Yaesu: 16, Icom: 15, Kenwood: 8, Ten-Tec: 2). Interestingly, 41 of the 59 teams (nearly 70%) used a K3. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-07-24 5:57 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: Below is the actual data and link to the public source of Rick's comment about rigs used in WRTC. 73, Bill W4ZV P.S. In case others missed it there was a major firmware update (MCU 4.86 DSP 2.83) on June 10. For some reason there was no announcement about it (see http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm ) WRTC data: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/aocc/2014-July/016712.html Andy N2NT is still collecting data, but his preliminary release
Re: [Elecraft] N8LP Tuning Relay success
Thanks all for the help on this. I receive the Elecraft list in digest format, so there is a delay in seeing posts. Glad to see you're operational, Cary. 73, Larry N8LP On 7/24/2014 8:16 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 19 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:39:59 -0400 From: Hunsdon Cary IIIh3c...@gmail.com To: Jim N7USj...@n7us.net,d...@elecraft.com Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net, pete Lascellplasc...@verizon.net, w4...@verizon.net, Hunt Caryhxc...@yahoo.com, Sue A. Cary suec...@mac.com Subject: [Elecraft] N8LP Tuning Relay success Message-ID:8a66e0b3-e58d-4bcf-badb-32b6b8f89...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Dick, Jim, Pete (W4WWQ): Thanks for your help. N8LP Tuning Relay now working as advertised. The ?Interrupter? was key to getting it to work and once, with the help of Dick Pete, I figured the phono plug on the K3 belonged on the Key Out jack and not the PTT jack, it works perfectly. As Dick explained, the KPA500 will not switch from Operate to Standby but there is no power output and no LED?s are lighting up while the SteppIR is tuning - this is one slick little box! Again, thanks for your help! 73, Cary, K4TM Lynchburg VA K3-100 #3448, KPA500 #0698, SteppIR 3-element @ 42' __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Announcement list news?
It pays to check the Elecraft website frequently. At least I do, and updated to 4.86 shortly after it was released . . . announcement or no announcement. 73, Kent K9ZTV I ask because I also missed any announcement of the last K3 firmware update, until Bill W4ZV just mentioned it in his Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update) post, where he said: P.S. In case others missed it there was a major firmware update (MCU 4.86 DSP 2.83) on June 10. For some reason there was no announcement about it __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
Talk about burying the lede... I have not heard any RFI from the generator (it is running it's weekly test right now!) whenever I have used the rigs while it is running. My worst RFI offender is actually the Electrolux clothes dryer. I do a lot of listening playing with SDRs (including K3 and KX3), but have mostly wire antennas. 73, Terry, WB4JFI -Original Message- From: wb4...@knology.net Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:36 AM To: Philip Carter ; John Scott ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators We also have a Generac generator, and ATS. I believe it's about 20kW, the largest they sell that is NOT water cooled. I didn't want a car engine... Our house has two 200A panels inside, and being in South Carolina (hot, muggy), we have three air conditioning units, including mini-split for the ham shack, plus all electric kitchen (induction cooktop), and other high-current things. I tried several electricians, all of whom wanted to install 30+kW, water-cooled generators, which I could not afford. We finally found an electrician (as part of a kitchen remodel) that was smarter than the average one, and he was familiar with the Generac Nexus (sp) line of Smart Switches. These are add-ons to the ATS that manage generator loading by cutting back heavy loads if the generator gets bogged down. They add a switch to each identified load, and the ATS controls how those switches get managed. We've had the generator run a few times, and I've seen the ATS cutting back the load at least once. I'm usually home during outages, so I can manually trip breakers to manage the load myself, but it's nice to see that the system works even if we aren't home. So far, I've been really happy with this setup. 73, Terry, WB4JFI -Original Message- From: Philip Carter Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:00 AM To: John Scott ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators I would also recommend that. Very little trouble. On Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:30 AM, John Scott sco...@sandycove-ns.ca wrote: We are considering the installation of a generator here for times when, for one reason or another, commercial power is unavailable.Our electrician has recommended a Generac generator. I would welcome comments from this august and knowledgeable group about these generators regarding reliability and RFI emissions or, preferably the lack of RFI! Please reply off list to sco...@sandycove-ns.ca 73 TIA John, VE1JS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wd8...@sbcglobal.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb4...@knology.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb4...@knology.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
This is very interesting. I've been thinking of all the ways you could spin this data other than simply counting radios. For example, Icom could say, Five out of the top six winning radios were Icoms. Yaesu could say, When Elecraft owner Martti Laine needed a top performer for WRTC... he reached for his Yaesu!, Kenwood could say, Think a Kenwood can't beat an Elecraft in a tough contesting situation? Think again. c. I think what this all really means is that it comes down to the operator, not the radio... which is the whole reason for WRTC in the first place. Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
* On 2014 24 Jul 14:16 -0500, Al Lorona wrote: This is very interesting. I've been thinking of all the ways you could spin this data other than simply counting radios. For example, Icom could say, Five out of the top six winning radios were Icoms. Yaesu could say, When Elecraft owner Martti Laine needed a top performer for WRTC... he reached for his Yaesu!, Kenwood could say, Think a Kenwood can't beat an Elecraft in a tough contesting situation? Think again. c. The months ahead will likely treat us to much advertising spin. I think what this all really means is that it comes down to the operator, not the radio... which is the whole reason for WRTC in the first place. To a point. Supposing the WRTC could be done all over again but the winning team were given the TS-590S radios instead of the Icoms, would they still win? Of course, that is impossible to answer, but I will note that no one showed up with an HW-101! 73, Nate N0NB -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
Yeah, it all depends on how you look at it. Back in the 2010 WRTC it was pretty much all Elecraft and Yeasu. Icom was there but not nearly as strong as this year. When I look over these results I think of the way the drivers finish in NASCAR races. You pretty much know who the top drivers are, but the exact order of finish remains to be seen. And this is strongly affected by luck in a lot of cases. I think the same here. The top 20 or 25 teams are all excellent ops with excellent rigs. But who snags a few rare multipliers is often more luck than skill. Gotta be in the right spot at the right time. I note that the Russian team that won in '10 finished 16th this time around. A very respectable showing, but no longer 1st. 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 7/24/14 2:15 PM, Al Lorona wrote: This is very interesting. I've been thinking of all the ways you could spin this data other than simply counting radios. For example, Icom could say, Five out of the top six winning radios were Icoms. Yaesu could say, When Elecraft owner Martti Laine needed a top performer for WRTC... he reached for his Yaesu!, Kenwood could say, Think a Kenwood can't beat an Elecraft in a tough contesting situation? Think again. c. I think what this all really means is that it comes down to the operator, not the radio... which is the whole reason for WRTC in the first place. Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ho13d...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WRTC 2014 - Congratulations, Elecraft!...(and firmware update)
Yes, very interesting, and I think most of the credit goes to the operators, rather than the radios. However, the fact that a very large percentage of these top operators *choose* to use the Elecraft K3 does say a lot about the desirability of the K3 for contesting. Whether that be because of the weight, or because of the performance and operating interface, you would probably have to ask each K3 operator about his choice. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/24/2014 3:15 PM, Al Lorona wrote: This is very interesting. I've been thinking of all the ways you could spin this data other than simply counting radios. For example, Icom could say, Five out of the top six winning radios were Icoms. Yaesu could say, When Elecraft owner Martti Laine needed a top performer for WRTC... he reached for his Yaesu!, Kenwood could say, Think a Kenwood can't beat an Elecraft in a tough contesting situation? Think again. c. I think what this all really means is that it comes down to the operator, not the radio... which is the whole reason for WRTC in the first place. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
I cannot comment one way or another on the Generac, though I see them often advertised with farming equipment, so probably they are sturdy. I think my Dad had one he ran with the tractor pto. We chose to add a generator to our home after a cheaply built foreign model was unable to supply even enough power for a 75w light and the microwave. We decided to go for a generator that was capable of running the whole house and had electric start (to make life easier on us old folks). We bought a 6500w Honda Generator for about $4,000. I built a doghouse to permanently install it near our meter and added a manual transfer switch. We've had absolutely no problems with the generator other than the battery charge slowly drops in our winter temps, so I added a ac timer and a 500ma 12v charger. It charges the gen starting battery twice/day for 3-hours and that solved the battery discharge issue. What I especially appreciate is the slow-run mode that extends running time to 14-hours between refueling (about 3 gallons). Like most Honda's it runs very quiet (I cannot tell it is running 20-feet away). The generator is capable of supplying enough power for me to run my 8877 (about 3kW load). It is capable of remote control in the house (we didn't opt for that) and gen shuts down on high temp or low oil. We do have to be careful not to run too much in the kitchen and the well pump when in the slow-run mode else it will trip off. Never a problem in full-speed running. Nice to have power when the winds blow and trees take down commercial lines (several times a year). 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
How much fuel do all you guys with whole house generators keep on hand? How much fuel does one need to, say, go for 10 days? Does everyone have that on hand? What next, if you run out of fuel... [--Note - not an argument, a serious question. I know lots of guys with generators, but I bet they have only one or two days of fuel on hand. What does it really take? Does one need a submarine-size tank, like we see in rural areas, to go the distance? ] -- K8JHR On 7/24/2014 5:22 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: We chose to add a generator to our home after a cheaply built foreign model was unable to supply even enough power for __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
My 20 KW whole house Generac runs on natural gas. Earl N5ZM.. On 7/24/2014 7:40 PM, K8JHR wrote: How much fuel do all you guys with whole house generators keep on hand? How much fuel does one need to, say, go for 10 days? Does everyone have that on hand? What next, if you run out of fuel... [--Note - not an argument, a serious question. I know lots of guys with generators, but I bet they have only one or two days of fuel on hand. What does it really take? Does one need a submarine-size tank, like we see in rural areas, to go the distance? ] -- K8JHR On 7/24/2014 5:22 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: We chose to add a generator to our home after a cheaply built foreign model was unable to supply even enough power for __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@suddenlink.net - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7915 - Release Date: 07/24/14 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
Good question. OK here are the stats on my 30 KVA Generac. Consider a normal day winter time and the power goes out at commute time. After the calls to PGE (in my area), we settle down to a evening without power, UNTIL. The word comes that the power will be off for up to 24 hours. The freezer is good for over night so unless wife wants to watch TV, we set it out over night. In the morning, I manually fire up the diesel and check the 25 gal tank level. 2/3 full approx 16 gal. Switch over the manual mains and we are on full power load. PG E was wrong on the estimate and did not have a solid eta on restored power. After running the Generac until everyone has had their showers, etc. I shut it down for the night. In the morning I check the fuel and it is at a little over 1/3 or 8 gal. I crank it up, start the day. About 3PM the indoor NE2 lamp on the commercial side of the panel comes on and I switch off the Generac. I refill the diesel fuel tank. Estimate time on the RTM is about 21 hours running on 8 gal of diesel. Yes, it has a idle mode but keeps the voltage above 100 VAC. Not bad. Mel, K6KBE On Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:20 PM, Earl n...@suddenlink.net wrote: My 20 KW whole house Generac runs on natural gas. Earl N5ZM.. On 7/24/2014 7:40 PM, K8JHR wrote: How much fuel do all you guys with whole house generators keep on hand? How much fuel does one need to, say, go for 10 days? Does everyone have that on hand? What next, if you run out of fuel... [--Note - not an argument, a serious question. I know lots of guys with generators, but I bet they have only one or two days of fuel on hand. What does it really take? Does one need a submarine-size tank, like we see in rural areas, to go the distance? ] -- K8JHR On 7/24/2014 5:22 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: We chose to add a generator to our home after a cheaply built foreign model was unable to supply even enough power for __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@suddenlink.net - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7915 - Release Date: 07/24/14 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfo...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT Generac Generators
15 KW Generac with 550 gal propane tank. Live out in the country and have gone 14 days without power. I'm good for 2-4 weeks, depending on load. Mike KD8RQE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
We have what ever is in the 500 gallon propane tank. If it were generator only, I don't know long it would last. Add in the furnace and it would probably only last a few days. Getting more would be a call to the propane company if they were still operating. Joshua Gould K8WXA Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2014, at 20:40, K8JHR jricha...@k8jhr.com wrote: How much fuel do all you guys with whole house generators keep on hand? How much fuel does one need to, say, go for 10 days? Does everyone have that on hand? What next, if you run out of fuel... [--Note - not an argument, a serious question. I know lots of guys with generators, but I bet they have only one or two days of fuel on hand. What does it really take? Does one need a submarine-size tank, like we see in rural areas, to go the distance? ] -- K8JHR On 7/24/2014 5:22 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: We chose to add a generator to our home after a cheaply built foreign model was unable to supply even enough power for __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jg.k8...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
Mine too. Unless Charleston has another earthquake, I should be okay. Terry, WB4JFI -Original Message- From: Earl Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:18 PM To: K8JHR ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators My 20 KW whole house Generac runs on natural gas. Earl N5ZM.. On 7/24/2014 7:40 PM, K8JHR wrote: How much fuel do all you guys with whole house generators keep on hand? How much fuel does one need to, say, go for 10 days? Does everyone have that on hand? What next, if you run out of fuel... [--Note - not an argument, a serious question. I know lots of guys with generators, but I bet they have only one or two days of fuel on hand. What does it really take? Does one need a submarine-size tank, like we see in rural areas, to go the distance? ] -- K8JHR On 7/24/2014 5:22 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: We chose to add a generator to our home after a cheaply built foreign model was unable to supply even enough power for __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@suddenlink.net - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7915 - Release Date: 07/24/14 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb4...@knology.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators
On huge advantage of a gasoline powered generator over a tank fed propane unit is that you can always syphon a few days worth of gas out of your car, but if the roads are closed and your LP tnak runs dry, your screwed. That said, the longest we've EVER been without power hear in northern Virginia is 4 to 5 days from some nasty hurricanes. Typical storm damaged lines around here are restored in a matter of hours. 73, Charlie k3ICH - Original Message - From: K8JHR jricha...@k8jhr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT GENERAC generators How much fuel do all you guys with whole house generators keep on hand? How much fuel does one need to, say, go for 10 days? Does everyone have that on hand? What next, if you run out of fuel... [--Note - not an argument, a serious question. I know lots of guys with generators, but I bet they have only one or two days of fuel on hand. What does it really take? Does one need a submarine-size tank, like we see in rural areas, to go the distance? ] -- K8JHR On 7/24/2014 5:22 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: We chose to add a generator to our home after a cheaply built foreign model was unable to supply even enough power for __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] How reliable an internet connection is needed for a K3 remote to work well?
I have almost identical symptoms - brief audio dropouts, sometimes solitary, sometimes many and frequent, rendering the remote setup unusable. However, I'm NOT using WiFi connectivity between the RRC and the router. My RRC connects directly to my Cisco/Linksys EA4500 router with a short RJ45 cable. Are there other settings in the router that might provoke similar symptoms? I should have ample bandwidth on my cable TV Internet connection - typically 20-30 Mb down, 1-2 Mb up, 20-40 ms ping. Any thoughts? Thanks 73, /Rick N6XI On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:51 PM, James Beitchman jbeitch...@jgbconsult.com wrote: Barry and others, I have been following the discussion and want to add the description of a problem and its solution that I encountered with my remote operation. My set-up: Control site: Manhattan, New York; k3/0 mini to RemoteRig with wireless to WiFi router to Cable ISP (ping 10ms; 15Mbps forward; 1Mbps return); more than 25 strong WiFi networks in range Radio site: Town of Clinton, NY (rural); K3/100 to RemoteRig with wireless to WiFi router to cable ISP (ping 16ms; 55Mbps forward; 25Mbps return); only my own WiFi Network in range Parameter settings: All settings of the RemoteRig and Elecraft equipment at both ends were without any exception at the values recommended by Microbit and Elecraft in the manuals Problem: Dropped packets resulting 0.1 - 1 sec audio drop outs both ways and messed up CW; worse during business busy hour (5 - 6 pm) and at night from 8 - 11pm Solution: The problem is clearly not caused by line speed or ping time. At first I though the problem might be congestion at the cable node in the City (400+ business and residential users on the fiber fed node), but the cable company convinced me with tests that I witnessed that this was not the issue. Then I talked to some folks about WiFi issues. What I learned is that most WiFi equipment as-delivered is set for channel 6 as default and most users leave it there. I checked my router in the City and found it was on channel 6. I changed my router to channel 8 and the dropped packet problem completely disappeared and CW is just fine. So the problem appears to have been something we hams are all familiar with - QRM. My suggestion is, if you are having a dropped packet problem and are using WiFi in a dense WiFi environment as part of your remote system, try changing your router WiFi channel as a first very easy step to solving the problem. 73, Buzz W3EMD Message: 9 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Barry w...@comcast.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] How reliable an internet connection is needed for A K3 remote to work well? Message-ID: 1405301787274-7591154.p...@n2.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A while back we tried Remoterig with a Kenwood radio and the CW generated was poor on the other end. This was presumably from dropped packets and or latency issues (Comcast on one end and a terrestrial microwave connection on the other end). Some dits/dahs were lost and others were prolonged, due to the lost stop signal. My understanding of the remoterig protocol for CW is it's not very robust, with no error correction or ACKing. We got around the CW problem by using a VNC and the CW is generated at the host end within the VNC window, using N1MM, directly keying the radio. If we were to use a K3 and K3/remote for the radio, would there be potential radio control issues due to the flaky internet connection, or is there redundancy and/or error correction built into the Elecraft remote protocol? Barry W2UP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com -- Rick Tavan N6XI Truckee, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] How reliable an internet connection is needed for a K3 remote to work well?
Suggest you find the EA menu that allows you to optimize SIP and/or VoIP performance. It is here on this EA9600 somewhere. I think all the higher-end Linksys routers have this setting. Most remote audio uses SIP for call setup and one of several ULPs for voice VoIP. RTP is one of them. Brandon at Elecraft knows a lot about all this, and may be able to give more detailed advice. 73, matt W6NIA On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:40:05 -0700, you wrote: I have almost identical symptoms - brief audio dropouts, sometimes solitary, sometimes many and frequent, rendering the remote setup unusable. However, I'm NOT using WiFi connectivity between the RRC and the router. My RRC connects directly to my Cisco/Linksys EA4500 router with a short RJ45 cable. Are there other settings in the router that might provoke similar symptoms? I should have ample bandwidth on my cable TV Internet connection - typically 20-30 Mb down, 1-2 Mb up, 20-40 ms ping. Any thoughts? Thanks 73, /Rick N6XI On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:51 PM, James Beitchman jbeitch...@jgbconsult.com wrote: Barry and others, I have been following the discussion and want to add the description of a problem and its solution that I encountered with my remote operation. My set-up: Control site: Manhattan, New York; k3/0 mini to RemoteRig with wireless to WiFi router to Cable ISP (ping 10ms; 15Mbps forward; 1Mbps return); more than 25 strong WiFi networks in range Radio site: Town of Clinton, NY (rural); K3/100 to RemoteRig with wireless to WiFi router to cable ISP (ping 16ms; 55Mbps forward; 25Mbps return); only my own WiFi Network in range Parameter settings: All settings of the RemoteRig and Elecraft equipment at both ends were without any exception at the values recommended by Microbit and Elecraft in the manuals Problem: Dropped packets resulting 0.1 - 1 sec audio drop outs both ways and messed up CW; worse during business busy hour (5 - 6 pm) and at night from 8 - 11pm Solution: The problem is clearly not caused by line speed or ping time. At first I though the problem might be congestion at the cable node in the City (400+ business and residential users on the fiber fed node), but the cable company convinced me with tests that I witnessed that this was not the issue. Then I talked to some folks about WiFi issues. What I learned is that most WiFi equipment as-delivered is set for channel 6 as default and most users leave it there. I checked my router in the City and found it was on channel 6. I changed my router to channel 8 and the dropped packet problem completely disappeared and CW is just fine. So the problem appears to have been something we hams are all familiar with - QRM. My suggestion is, if you are having a dropped packet problem and are using WiFi in a dense WiFi environment as part of your remote system, try changing your router WiFi channel as a first very easy step to solving the problem. 73, Buzz W3EMD Message: 9 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Barry w...@comcast.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] How reliable an internet connection is needed for A K3 remote to work well? Message-ID: 1405301787274-7591154.p...@n2.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A while back we tried Remoterig with a Kenwood radio and the CW generated was poor on the other end. This was presumably from dropped packets and or latency issues (Comcast on one end and a terrestrial microwave connection on the other end). Some dits/dahs were lost and others were prolonged, due to the lost stop signal. My understanding of the remoterig protocol for CW is it's not very robust, with no error correction or ACKing. We got around the CW problem by using a VNC and the CW is generated at the host end within the VNC window, using N1MM, directly keying the radio. If we were to use a K3 and K3/remote for the radio, would there be potential radio control issues due to the flaky internet connection, or is there redundancy and/or error correction built into the Elecraft remote protocol? Barry W2UP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com Matt Zilmer, W6NIA www.elecraft.com 831-763-4211 x129 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
