Re: [Elecraft] K3, VHF Diversity
That should work well Chuck. I know that SM5FRH had a similar system many years ago when he had his huge EME array. No computer required, just the brain doing the combining. I never tried that when I had my previous dual polarity array, I just had simple H or V switching, but I am planning to have polarity diversity this time on digital at least with a LinkRF IQ+ system. I may also try using it on CW with LINRAD and the same hardware. I agree that you have to be very careful with choice of computers and power supplies when doing EME on VHF, or make the choice not to switch them on unless absolutely necessary. Before the advent of digital modes for EME I nearly always had all things switched off apart from an old NEC laptop similar to the Tandy Model 100 with an LCD display which was totally silent RF wise. The NEC was just for giving me Moon position, tracking of the moon being done manually. Gradually computers crept into the shack as we had nice tools available like FFT waterfall displays, the first popular one being AF9Y FFTDSP and later we had various DSP audio filtering programs added to the suite of essential utilities. Now of course we have the Internet and all that entails, including distractions while operating. I see photos of shacks with multiple computers and monitors and wonder how much the noise floor must be raised by all of that on VHF. I know Leif SM5BSZ wrote an article on the extreme measures he had to take with his computer to make it quiet for LINRAD use. I remember changing the clock crystal in my old PC to a lower frequency one so that the harmonic fell below the bottom of the band. Similarly I replaced the switched mode power supply in the PC to a model that had better filtering and the noise fell 10dB. Even a dB of extra noise can kill weak signal EME. The bottom ends of our VHF and UHF bands are now so full of birdies from computers etc that CW weak signal users have to move up the band from their traditional place. For most people there is no possibility of working in the bottom 20 or 30 kHz. I contrast that to when I (and much more so Chuck, who is one of the pioneers of EME) started on EME and there was no QRM at all, if you heard something it was another station. Sometimes it is nice to get away from it all and just have a radio, headphones and key. Good luck. 73 David Anderson GM4JJJ On 18 Feb 2015, at 19:25, Chuck Smallhouse w...@theriver.com wrote: I am in the process of implementing full diversity reception of 2M CW EME signals. I will be using 2 each quad arrays of 2M long yagis, One horizontally polarized and the other vertically polarized. At and after the antennas' power dividers, there will be installed equal gain and NF LNAs, followed by equal lengths of Heliax Super Flex down to the shack. In the shack will be two identical phase locked (together) down converters that drive the K3 and it's Sub RX. This will result in one polarization in one ear and the other in the opposite ear. The TX upconverter and K3, will be locked to the same source. It will be an interesting on going experiment, to see if/how this affects and hopefully somewhat overcomes the polarization rotation and faraday/libration properties of EME received signals. Also planed, will be to feed both polarizations simultaneously, during TX, with a QRO+ PA. BTW, to date I don't use any computer control of the K3 ! I don't even allow any computers to be on when performing 2M EME operations, due to the residual broad band noise and birdies emitted by most . The availability of a none computer(external) controlled SDR receiver, among other features, is what sold me on the K3/P3SVGA system. Chuck, W7CS Message: 21 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:09:08 -0800 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com To: Vic Rosenthal k2vco@gmail.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Who said anything about removing diversity? That would *never* happen... Message-ID: 835cb799-17af-4106-a3b5-4bc9afadb...@elecraft.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Diversity reception is characterized by perceived phase precessing between the two receivers' audio streams due to varying phases of the main and sub RF input signals. You don't want additional, unpredictable phase precessing on top of that due to the receivers themselves. Additive phase changes would sometimes make diversity reception less pleasant to listen to. Better to have the receivers locked together, eliminating a variable. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
I like this. Also changing the color on the P3 cursor when going into transmit, not just when selecting or deselecting SPLIT. Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO On Feb 19, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: Useful analysis, Rich. I agree this might cause some confusion. Here's a simpler variation. Suppose we give operators the option of briefly flashing the entire transmit VFO frequency off/on once each time you start keying? This would duplicate the intent of the TX arrow, which points to either A or B but is small enough to get lost unless you're looking right at it. No new semantics -- just a more visible TX VFO indication. This wouldn't tell you whether you're in split mode. But flashing the A vs. B displays would look quite different to the eye, so you'd quickly get used to looking for the right one as confirmation of your intent. Wayne N6KR On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Richard Ferch ve3...@storm.ca wrote: It's nice to see some recognition that the issue is not the same for people using two receivers as for people using a single receiver, but I am not sure how well the proposed solution will actually work in the two-receiver sub-RX implied split (or reverse split) situation. When I am using sub-RX implied split, the K3's SPLIT indicator is off, because I am transmitting on VFO A. The proposed solution would show NON.SPLT on the VFO B display, which is not correct in this situation (I am actually operating split, listening on VFO B and transmitting on VFO A). If I manage somehow to leave my K3 in SPLIT mode with the DX in the subRX, I will be transmitting on the DX frequency but the VFO A display will show SPLIT even though in this case I am erroneously operating non-split. I also operate SO2V in many contests, meaning that I have two logging windows open in my contest software, one for each VFO. If I choose to work someone non-split from the VFO B logging window, the software automatically puts the K3 into SPLIT mode in order to transmit on VFO B. The VFO A display would show SPLIT while I am transmitting, but actually I am not operating split. The real problem is that the rig cannot read my mind. It has no way of knowing whether I am listening to the other station on the main RX or the subRX, hence whether I am actually operating split or non-split. My solution to this is to ignore the K3's display and never use the SPLIT button on the radio, i.e. to do all split- or VFO B-related operations from software. The software knows my intention because it gives me a way to tell it what I want to do, whereas until someone comes up with a mind-reading module, the radio cannot know my real intention. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Config: VFO LINK
Roy (and others) if you're doing something wrong, I am too. I can get PF1 to work on any other item except VFO LNK. On anything else, when you hold PF1, it beeps and you get the message PF1 SET. This doesn't happen with the VFO LNK menu item. Holding PF1 produces the beep, but no PF1 SET message and PF1 remains set to whatever item it was previously set to. FW UC 05.10, FL 01.17, d1 and d2 both 02.83 and the DVR is not installed in my K3. Jim - W0EB -- Original Message -- From: Roy Morris w4...@carolina.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 2/19/2015 2:10:50 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Config: VFO LINK I must be doing something wrong. I can program other Config programs to work in PF1 hold, but I still can't get VFO LINK to work with this button. Is there something I am missing? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?
Guys - Please do not make personal attacks on this list. Phrases like bunch of baloney B.S. etc are outside of list guidelines. Eric List moderator elecraft.com On 2/19/2015 6:49 AM, brian wrote: Joe, This is a bunch of baloney. What you are really saying is that you don't like what most do. So be it. Ian's proposal won't gore your ox. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 2/19/2015 14:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 2015-02-18 11:33 PM, Ian White wrote: my suggestion was to offer Quick Split as an option that could only be selected through a new item in the Configuration menu, as an alternative behavior for the existing [SPLIT] button. That is *wrong* on so many levels and not even the big boys pervert the basic split function with an automatic offset. As you point out the MK V did have the capability but I never used it one time in the ten years or so I used the rig on a regular basis (it's still in the closet unused since getting the K3s). BTW, I can't find quick split in either the TS-590 or TS-990 manuals so it's still far from universal (or obvious). To force a choice between simply enabling VFO B where I have already set it and enable VFO B at a fixed offset from VFO A is wrong. It sets up for the very thing you complain about - a user who knows the operation of the rig in its normal state walks into a K3 that has been perverted with Quick Split instead of split sets down and can never get split right because quick split constantly wipes out the user's own VFO settings. No... what I am really asking for is WHAT I REALLY WROTE. What you WROTE was an industry standard feature - The big boys use a second function key or a *hold* of the split button for quick split. Since the second key version has always been available by using one of the PF keys, you *must* be advocating the hold option. However, since split is already a hold of AB, as a practical matter a hold of a hold function is a long hold. Whatever is done should *never* cause the basic definition of split - select transmit on VFO B where I have it set to be lost or only available by resetting a menu. Such an option is equivalent to tune VFO B with the big knob and tune VFO A with the little knob - it turns the user interface on its head. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to als...@nc.rr.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5736 / Virus Database: 4284/9144 - Release Date: 02/19/15 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to elist_c...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Config: VFO Link
I have installed K3 v.5.10. Presently I cannot assign VFO LINK to my PF1 button. Will this be function be available soon? Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
jsdroys...@nc.rr.com writes: Normally the P3 uses the VFO A frequency as its center, but when a DX wants stations to call in very far above or below his own frequency (a very wide split, as used by K1N recently) then I need to learn how to tune the P3 away from the VFO A frequency or else the pileup does not show on the P3. The manual says this is possible but I am missing exactly how to do it. Help? Hold CENTER and turn the knob to shift the VFO marker to your preferred position. Works in either Fixed or Tracking mode. -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Hi Julie, Use the third button down and the right side of the P3 front panel - called SPAN and widen what you are looking at. You can go as wide as 200 kHz. That should do it. I like to use 100 to 50 kHz span so can see more detail on the P3 screen. I also added a 19 inch monitor so I could see the big picture. To use a monitor, you need to add the serial port in/out to the P3. Then, you attach your USB-to-serial port adapter from your computer - assuming you are using one - so you can run from a variety of computer programs from your keyboard to the K3. Those would include the terminal program that comes with the K3 kit. I recently installed N1MM+ (and have the second RX in the K3) so have two panels open on my other monitor (for the computer) wherein I can see/control/log in two panels, one for VFOA and one for VFOB, good for contesting and reg op as well. 73, Phil, W0XI jsdroys...@nc.rr.com mailto:jsdroys...@nc.rr.com Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:24 PM Normally the P3 uses the VFO A frequency as its center, but when a DX wants stations to call in very far above or below his own frequency (a very wide split, as used by K1N recently) then I need to learn how to tune the P3 away from the VFO A frequency or else the pileup does not show on the P3. The manual says this is possible but I am missing exactly how to do it. Help? Thanks in advance! Julie KT4JR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to aldenmcduf...@sunflower.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Config: VFO LINK
I must be doing something wrong. I can program other Config programs to work in PF1 hold, but I still can't get VFO LINK to work with this button. Is there something I am missing? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Hi Julie, It sounds like you prefer to leave your P3 in Tracking mode. The procedure I'll describe works best if you have the P3 set to Fixed Tune mode. I have a Fn button set to flip back and forth between Fixed Tune and Tracking but if you don't you can easily access it from the Menu under FixTrack. Just push the SELECT knob to flip flop between Fixed Tune mode and Tracking mode. If the DX is operating UP you'll want your VFO-A cursor to be on the left side of the screen. To do this hold the CENTER button on the right side of the P3. Then twist the P3 knob clockwise. If you don't see the full pileup you may have to increase the frequency SPAN of the display. Just press the SPAN button and twist the P3 knob clockwise. If the DX station is listening DOWN then you'll move the VFO-A cursor to the right side of the screen by twisting the knob counterclockwise. 73, Mike K2MK jsdroyster wrote Normally the P3 uses the VFO A frequency as its center, but when a DX wants stations to call in very far above or below his own frequency (a very wide split, as used by K1N recently) then I need to learn how to tune the P3 away from the VFO A frequency or else the pileup does not show on the P3. The manual says this is possible but I am missing exactly how to do it. Help? Thanks in advance! Julie KT4JR -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-question-tp7599013p7599020.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Config: VFO Link
I was able to do this (locate the CONFIG:VFO LNK menu entry, then hold PF1 to assign the switch to it). Outside the menu, holding PF1 then does link/unlink. 73, Wayne N6KR On Feb 19, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Roy Morris w4...@carolina.rr.com wrote: I have installed K3 v.5.10. Presently I cannot assign VFO LINK to my PF1 button. Will this be function be available soon? Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] West Virginia K3 owners?
I was wondering if there is any K3 owners here in the mountain state. I am in the market for a new rig and would like to look at one in the face. My QTH is Clarksburg. Thanks to everyone and 73 Rick-N8VCF -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/West-Virginia-K3-owners-tp7599022.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] P3 Issue
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Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
I may have missed the beginning of this thread, but agree with VE3KI that there is no mind reading solution. The current approach could be improved to reduce some errors but there is a lot of skimmer spotting that does NOT indicate UP or QSK ... and lots of people click and xmit. But reducing the number of times I (all of us) mistakenly xmit on the DX station's TX frequency would be a good thing. I'm a big fan of the traditional method where the larger/main VFO display always shows the TX frequency. In split operation, when not transmitting there is some visual indication your are in split mode (the K3 already does that in 2 ways) and when you transmit, the larger/main VFO display switches to show your xmit frequency and the smaller/secondary display shows the RX freq. The benefit of this tried and true approach is that you can be in split but have both VFOs on the same freq. If you xmit and the main VFO doesn't change, good indication that you may be in split mode but not really actually, truly SPLIT! That VFO swapping SPLIT display is one of only two things I find I like better when using my old TS-850 as I am now since my K3 is out at a remote site. But, boy do I miss that sub-RX! 73 John K3TN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/A-way-to-show-both-SPLIT-and-NON-SPLIT-warnings-tp7598915p7598992.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Issue
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[Elecraft] [K3] Useful fw feature
When switching OFF the K3 remotely, you need to send the PS0 command before you switch OFF the PSU. To switch ON again you need first switch ON your PSU and then and then briefly ground pin 8 of the ACC. However with some devices with relay control via GSM/SMS (which is what I am using) you can close and open relays, but there may not be available an automatic brief relay closure. What I do is simply to always open the Pin 8 relay after sending PS0 and before switching OFF the PSU. The only way I can be sure that the Pin 8 relay has opened is by listening for a very weak hump in the audio, indicating that the K3 has switched OFF. If I am in doubt (which may easily happen in noisy environments) I have to send a relay-status request by SMS. Therefore it would be a help if the K3 could produce an audible dit as the very last thing before it switches OFF. For clarity the sequence I use is as follows: Switch ON 1) SW ON PSU 2) Close Pin 8 relay Switch OFF 1) Send PS0 2) Open Pin 8 relay 3) Listen carefully for K3 switching OFF 4) SW OFF PSU I just got used to do it this way - maybe there are smarter ways. But doing it this way, it would be a great help if the K3 could make an audio dit just before it switches OFF. Would this be annoying for most users? If so it might be made selectable. Poul-Erik, OZ4UN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3, VHF Diversity
Hi Harry, You are correct on satellite operation a full duplex rig is useful so you can net your signal on the other station as there you are for example transmitting up to space on 70cm and receiving the transponded signal on 2m. On high orbit satellites the slight delay is off putting if you listen to your own voice delayed and you can tend to stammer! However Chuck is writing about 144MHz moonbounce not OSCAR satellite operation. O moonbounce via OSCAR 0 we can listen to our own signal, but don't need a full duplex rig to do that because of the 2.5 second delay of our own moon echo. Typically you hear a lot of echo testing which goes like this on CW at 15wpm: Transmit O with a huge ERP then back to receive a weak and watery o if you are lucky and the gods are willing. Sometimes the shift in polarisation through the ionosphere (Faraday rotation) causes the signal to come back at 90 degrees to what you sent it up at and then you will generally hear nothing. This is where having dual receivers, one on Horizontal polarisation and the other on Vertical polarisation would help a lot. On 23cm and higher frequencies, moonbounce is generally transmitted on circular polarisation and even this requires a bit of thought because the mirror reflection off the moon converts right hand circular into left hand circular, so your antenna feed system to your dish has to cope with that. 73 David Anderson GM4JJJ On 19 Feb 2015, at 07:32, Harry Yingst via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Yes I understand the K3 is a Non-Duplex radio. Truthfully I have yet to really look at Sat Seriously and the last I really read up on it wasyears ago (up on one band down on another) So for some reason I had it stuck in my mindthat you had to listen to yourself (Duplex) Something I'll need to read up on again. Thank you From: Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, VHF Diversity I guess I missed Chuck's posting on Feb.18th. Harry: First your question the K3 is unable to operate in duplex as common ckts are used in the DSP (2nd IF) for both Tx and Rx. Only simplex operation is allowed. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gm4...@yahoo.co.uk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Virtual com port problem with k3, nap3, and HRD
I use VSPE It just rides nicely in the background with no intervention. and will allow anything I have talk to K3 all at once. except for WSjXT which relies on LP-Bridge even when running alone. It seems to pass CW keying without timing issues with same port just fine. beware however because of some license issue with Microsoft if you have 64 bit OS you have to pay for it. for 32 bit OS it is free. http://www.eterlogic.com/Products.VSPE.html David Moes President: Peterborough Amateur Radio Club. dm...@nexicom.net VE3DVY, VE3SD On 2/18/2015 14:33, Shel Sherman wrote: Is there a virtual com port program other than LP-Bridge that can be used to simultaneously connect NAP3, and the latest version of Ham Radio Deluxe to a K3? The LP-Bridge program does this for earlier versions of HRD, but the newer versions are written in Unicode and are not compatible with LP-Bridge. If anyone has a virtual com port program working in the configuration described above I really want to talk to you. Thanks, Shel WO0C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dm...@nexicom.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 - Genovation Keypads
I have been looking at this keypad: http://store.genovation.com/programmables/cp24-db9serial.html Is anyone using one of these? If so, please contact me by email at callsign at nycap.rr.com Thanks, Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
Wayne, I think that would be unnecessarily irritating for normal use with the frequency display blinking. I actually like what happens on the K2 (which displays only one VFO). In SPLIT or XIT, the display changes to the transmit VFO frequency - and the resultant 'blinking' is quite obvious. What would be wrong with displaying the transmit VFO in the larger upper frequency display area (even if it is also displayed in the smaller frequency display area). The result is a blinking display when SPLIT or XIT is engaged. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/19/2015 2:33 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Useful analysis, Rich. I agree this might cause some confusion. Here's a simpler variation. Suppose we give operators the option of briefly flashing the entire transmit VFO frequency off/on once each time you start keying? This would duplicate the intent of the TX arrow, which points to either A or B but is small enough to get lost unless you're looking right at it. No new semantics -- just a more visible TX VFO indication. This wouldn't tell you whether you're in split mode. But flashing the A vs. B displays would look quite different to the eye, so you'd quickly get used to looking for the right one as confirmation of your intent. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
How about when NOT in split, the display flashes UPLID, alternating with the frequency? :-) Barry W2UP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/A-way-to-show-both-SPLIT-and-NON-SPLIT-warnings-tp7598915p7598998.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?
On 2015-02-19 9:49 AM, brian wrote: Ian's proposal won't gore your ox. BS. It sure will if I set down to another K3 that has been set up so the normal Split function is Quick Split that forces VFO B to some predetermined offset from VFO A. I *don't have a problem with quick split* as long as it does not involve any change to the current split operation or reprogram the operation of the current Hold AB. A long hold or [programmable] fixed offset of the current split function fundamentally changes the current UI. A fixed offset violates the establish transmit on the current VFO B frequency principle. A long hold is fraught with timing sensitivity as proven by all the problems with LINK vs. DIVERSITY. This hooey over Quick Split is just like the periodic BS about wanting direct access band buttons with frequency stacking or the debate about XFIL vs. APF v.s. Dual PB. Creating a separate button for Split with a hold for Quick Split is a feature that is not practical unless you want Wayne to design a larger front panel with more buttons ... sure it might be nice but otherwise it is a distraction as something that does not fit in the current UI. Could one come up with a better use of the current buttons? Probably. How about removing B Set - simply use A/B set up B and use A/B again. That would free up a hold of A/B for AB then Split could move to AB and Split Hold be used for Quick Split. However, I'm sure someone would have a problem with that solution as well. This is just one more manifestation of the user interface limitations of a small format transceiver. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
On 2015-02-19 6:44 AM, John K3TN via Elecraft wrote: That VFO swapping SPLIT display is one of only two things I find I like better when using my old TS-850 as I am now since my K3 is out at a remote site. But, boy do I miss that sub-RX! VFO Swapping displays are a feature of *single receiver* transceivers. I do not believe *any* dual receiver transceiver ever swapped the VFO displays (Icom's dual watch functions is not a dual receiver). VFO Swapping displays are confusing when done with a dual receiver function. If you want a more in your face indication, flash the transmit VFO when transmitting but *please* make it an option. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?
Joe, This is a bunch of baloney. What you are really saying is that you don't like what most do. So be it. Ian's proposal won't gore your ox. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 2/19/2015 14:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 2015-02-18 11:33 PM, Ian White wrote: my suggestion was to offer Quick Split as an option that could only be selected through a new item in the Configuration menu, as an alternative behavior for the existing [SPLIT] button. That is *wrong* on so many levels and not even the big boys pervert the basic split function with an automatic offset. As you point out the MK V did have the capability but I never used it one time in the ten years or so I used the rig on a regular basis (it's still in the closet unused since getting the K3s). BTW, I can't find quick split in either the TS-590 or TS-990 manuals so it's still far from universal (or obvious). To force a choice between simply enabling VFO B where I have already set it and enable VFO B at a fixed offset from VFO A is wrong. It sets up for the very thing you complain about - a user who knows the operation of the rig in its normal state walks into a K3 that has been perverted with Quick Split instead of split sets down and can never get split right because quick split constantly wipes out the user's own VFO settings. No... what I am really asking for is WHAT I REALLY WROTE. What you WROTE was an industry standard feature - The big boys use a second function key or a *hold* of the split button for quick split. Since the second key version has always been available by using one of the PF keys, you *must* be advocating the hold option. However, since split is already a hold of AB, as a practical matter a hold of a hold function is a long hold. Whatever is done should *never* cause the basic definition of split - select transmit on VFO B where I have it set to be lost or only available by resetting a menu. Such an option is equivalent to tune VFO B with the big knob and tune VFO A with the little knob - it turns the user interface on its head. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to als...@nc.rr.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5736 / Virus Database: 4284/9144 - Release Date: 02/19/15 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
On 2015-02-19 9:37 AM, Cady, Fred wrote: Please consider adding a transmit color to the P3 too because when chasing the split dx I'm not looking at the K3 display at all. When XIT/RIT or split is activated a *third* transmit cursor already appears in red. Since the P3 display is frozen in transmit there is no other opportunity to change cursor for transmit although perhaps it would be possible to superimpose a big block *SPLIT* in the center of the display G. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID
I kinda like that one From: Dwayne Rohmer djcaroh...@ntin.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:25 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID K3 Feature Request MAIN: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID (two beeps every ten minutes) 73, Dwayne WV5I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID
Nice, Key on the PTT key, you would get one more warning 10 minutes (or 9) after your last transmit then no more. I am bad at IDs but this falls into the someday bucket. 73, Jim -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Harry Yingst via Elecraft Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:50 PM To: Dwayne Rohmer; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID I kinda like that one From: Dwayne Rohmer djcaroh...@ntin.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:25 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID K3 Feature Request MAIN: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID (two beeps every ten minutes) 73, Dwayne WV5I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimmil...@stl-online.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] P3 question
Normally the P3 uses the VFO A frequency as its center, but when a DX wants stations to call in very far above or below his own frequency (a very wide split, as used by K1N recently) then I need to learn how to tune the P3 away from the VFO A frequency or else the pileup does not show on the P3. The manual says this is possible but I am missing exactly how to do it. Help? Thanks in advance! Julie KT4JR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID
K3 Feature Request MAIN: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID (two beeps every ten minutes) 73, Dwayne WV5I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split Operation
When attempting to break a pileup, the reason to use the conventional SPLIT mode vs implied (assuming your have the sub RX) is to have all of the RX controls, bandwidth, APF etc. immediately available without having to use B-SET first. Steve WB6RSE On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:42 PM, Dan Maase AC6DM via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Thanks Wayne. I had been using the conventional split mode when it occurred to me, why am I not using what you dub implied split? I've been doing that since and thought I would bring it up to the group since it has little press. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID
How about a 555 one-shot timer set for 9.5 minutes, started (and restarted) by RF sense? wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ On Feb 19, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Jim Miller jimmil...@stl-online.net wrote: Nice, Key on the PTT key, you would get one more warning 10 minutes (or 9) after your last transmit then no more. I am bad at IDs but this falls into the someday bucket. 73, Jim -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Harry Yingst via Elecraft Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:50 PM To: Dwayne Rohmer; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID I kinda like that one From: Dwayne Rohmer djcaroh...@ntin.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:25 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID K3 Feature Request MAIN: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID (two beeps every ten minutes) 73, Dwayne WV5I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimmil...@stl-online.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Config: VFO LINK
This has been corrected for the next release. Tnx Wayne http://www.elecraft.com On Feb 19, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Jim's Desktop w...@cox.net wrote: Roy (and others) if you're doing something wrong, I am too. I can get PF1 to work on any other item except VFO LNK. On anything else, when you hold PF1, it beeps and you get the message PF1 SET. This doesn't happen with the VFO LNK menu item. Holding PF1 produces the beep, but no PF1 SET message and PF1 remains set to whatever item it was previously set to. FW UC 05.10, FL 01.17, d1 and d2 both 02.83 and the DVR is not installed in my K3. Jim - W0EB -- Original Message -- From: Roy Morris w4...@carolina.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 2/19/2015 2:10:50 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Config: VFO LINK I must be doing something wrong. I can program other Config programs to work in PF1 hold, but I still can't get VFO LINK to work with this button. Is there something I am missing? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Config: VFO LINK
Thanks Wayne, Guess I can stop trying to make it work! Rick K6LE On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: This has been corrected for the next release. Tnx Wayne http://www.elecraft.com On Feb 19, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Jim's Desktop w...@cox.net wrote: Roy (and others) if you're doing something wrong, I am too. I can get PF1 to work on any other item except VFO LNK. On anything else, when you hold PF1, it beeps and you get the message PF1 SET. This doesn't happen with the VFO LNK menu item. Holding PF1 produces the beep, but no PF1 SET message and PF1 remains set to whatever item it was previously set to. FW UC 05.10, FL 01.17, d1 and d2 both 02.83 and the DVR is not installed in my K3. Jim - W0EB -- Original Message -- From: Roy Morris w4...@carolina.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 2/19/2015 2:10:50 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Config: VFO LINK I must be doing something wrong. I can program other Config programs to work in PF1 hold, but I still can't get VFO LINK to work with this button. Is there something I am missing? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.prat...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID
Years ago, one of the Heath accessories [to the SB3xx twins I think] had a large [like 2.5 cm high] ID indicator that came on every 10 min. Don't remember how it was reset, PTT? MAIN:ALARM - Tap 5 to activate Conelrad monitor. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org K3 Feature Request MAIN: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID (two beeps every ten minutes) 73, Dwayne WV5I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?
Ian, Joe, your personal dislike for alternative behaviours for the Split button does not change the facts. Yaesu and Icom, the two largest transceiver manufacturers, *have* been providing Programmable Split Offset as a selectable configuration option for up to 20 years. It's right there in the user manuals. I said before that I'm not opposed to a programmable Quick Split as long as it does not change the default behavior of the Split button (AB Hold). No new operating feature or option should cause a user familiar with the K3 to have difficulty operating any other K3. We already know that it works for the K3 as well, in the form of custom macros. That's very true and you are welcome to your custom macros, button box or whatever method you choose to implement Quick Split. However, unless the general user interface (and front panel) is changed to make Split the primary function on its own button, any change to the current UI should be off limits as it can and will cause more problems than it solves. Both Icom and Yaesu make Quick Split an *optional* HOLD of the split button - it's right there in their manuals. Further, Icom is almost forced to equalize VFOs (and moving the controls to the back VFO) when turning on split because they are dealing with *single receiver* transceivers with no separate controls for the transmit frequency. As far as I know neither of the other major transceiver manufacturers - Kenwood or TenTec - offer Quick Split (at least it does not show up in a search of their current top of the line product manuals). That two of five major transceiver manufacturers offer a feature (and one does so because their UI is so screwed up) hardly makes it an industry standard. Playing monkey see, monkey do with transceiver makers with some of the worst phase noise in the industry (IC-7600: -121 dBc/Hz @ 10 KHz, IC-7410: 121 dBc/Hz @ 10 KHz, Yaesu FTdx3000: -127 dBc/Hz @ 10 KHz per NC0B) in their single receiver transceivers is hardly a virtue worthy of Elecraft's aspirations. It is never wise for any equipment manufacturer to have versions of the same model in which the primary controls (and Split is a primary control) behave differently from unit to unit. If you want to talk about a new feature set for a new model with a different UI, that's fine but don't mess with Split - even the current basic implementation is obviously a problem. Overload the control or [optionally] change the basic behavior of that control and you are going to cause real confusion. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID
Tap 5 to make it sticky (repeatable) the next time period (which could be hourly too?) Rick, WA6NHC iPad = small keypad = typos = sorry ;-) On Feb 19, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Dwayne Rohmer djcaroh...@ntin.net wrote: K3 Feature Request MAIN: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID (two beeps every ten minutes) 73, Dwayne WV5I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to happymooseph...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Extra long KX3 stand to hold both KX3 and PX3
Thanks for the idea Phil. I've considered one for each and that's not out of the question. My goal, however, is to keep the cabling between the KX3 and PX3 steady and not constantly stretching while I move the whole assembly as a unit during a multi-QTH portable operation. I'm looking at the GEMS2 concept where I would bolt both to a common base to serve as the backbone for the interconnects. I'm watching your progress Scott (AK6Q). However, one long Nifty stand mike be just the thing... if is exists. John, kx4o On 2/19/2015 10:28 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: I bought two, one for each! Phil W7OX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Extra long KX3 stand to hold both KX3 and PX3
You could probably cement two of them together, end to end -- or mount them on a thinish plastic base. Phil W7OX On 2/19/15 7:53 PM, John wrote: Thanks for the idea Phil. I've considered one for each and that's not out of the question. My goal, however, is to keep the cabling between the KX3 and PX3 steady and not constantly stretching while I move the whole assembly as a unit during a multi-QTH portable operation. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Adding the KPA500 with the KAT3 installed
WHAT I meant to say is Don't forget with the tuner you have choice of two TX antennas -- just put it in bypass and away you go . Without the tuner you only have one TX ant . Have to quit doing 3 things at once - listening to TI9 boil in on 160 working EU , wiring up noise canceller , and sending email - too much at once - Thanks to NR4C for catching my goofup. 73 Hank K7HP -Original Message- From: Hank P Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:22 PM To: Rick WA6NHC ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Adding the KPA500 with the KAT3 installed Don't forget with the KANT3 you have choice of two TX antennas -- just put it in bupass and away you go . The KAT you only have one TX ant . I can run a higher power amp by moving one coax switch to one or the other amp . Hank K7HP -Original Message- From: Rick WA6NHC Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:01 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Adding the KPA500 with the KAT3 installed Bypass it. I believe in multiple redundancies for critical parts (except amps, too expensive). Besides I may choose to put the K3 in the RV one of these days and with the KANT3 in it, it's ready to go. 73, Rick wa6nhc On 2/19/2015 4:33 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: I was wondering what others do when they add the KPA500 and they have the KAT3. Do most just bypass it , or remove it and put the KANT3 module back in? Thank you __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pfizenma...@q.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pfizenma...@q.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip Hey Wayne!
is the RTC implemented in the PIC chip? i did not see a rtc chip in the prints... The KXBC3 has no stand-alone RTC chip. Its PIC (U3) carries out the RTC functions with an attached 32768 kHz crystal. One should not expect great time-keeping accuracy from that. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip Hey Wayne!
The KXBC3 has no stand-alone RTC chip. Its PIC (U3) carries out the RTC functions with an attached 32768 kHz crystal. That should be 32.768 kHz. :-) Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity on 160m?
Thanks for all the input. I'll do the necessary cabling and give this a try. Thanks! jim ab3cv On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote: What are folks using for their two antennas to provide improved reception on 160m? I have a recently installed 2 element vertical RX array and thought the next step would be trying diversity but not clear that my only other 160 antenna (inverted L) would be sufficiently different to be of use. Thanks Jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
Let's also let the Split/Not Split warning thread rest for now. We've definitely beat this one to death! :-) 73, Eric List moderator and therapist.. elecraft.com On 2/19/2015 4:20 PM, George Fritkin via Elecraft wrote: Wayne, I have it!! Buy the rights to the Kenwood TS990 front panel. There are enough buttons and displays to make anybody happy. Gee Whiz George,W6GF Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Uniquely Elecraft
good point, Ted. well said. Karl On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu wrote: Well, it was a bit like a DXpedition pileup, wasn¹t it? Hearing Eric or Wayne actively engaging in reflector QSOs is like hearing a really sharp VKO sending QRZ - it certainly attracts attention. But it also says something significant about the unique company whose products we have in common. Very glad for that. Gud DX, Ted, KN1CBR Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:21:40 -0800 From: Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com To: Elecraft Reflector Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Split Record ? Message-ID: 5c90f3a2-88f7-4f5e-9fd3-b0f192a70...@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Yesterday, the Seattle area broke an all time high-temperature record. I think the recorded high was 60 degrees besting the previously long held position of 58 degrees. No other day in recorded temperature history has a day been warmer ? the day being February 17th that is. And, a new record has been set here on Elecraft ? 10 posts so far (if I count right) by Wayne N6KR on a single subject topic: ?Split?. And, the day is not over yet. No, I have not been keeping track. I could be wrong on the amount just like the weathermen of the northwest could be wrong about yesterday?s record high temperature (which is a little depressing in that it is only a high of 60 degrees). 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to karle...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?
Not sure where this thread has wandered but I program M3 and M4 as quick splits M3 will split up 1 on cw and M4 will split up 5. You can insert filter combinations and other options if you wish. This is easily done with the programming. I am not sure if this helps. Mike W0MU On 2/18/2015 9:33 PM, Ian White wrote: We lost power for a few hours. Looks like I missed a load of fun... W4TV wrote: The bedrock point of principle is this: users should *never* be forced to resort to macros for simple industry-standard features that ought to be part of the firmware. Since *when* is a programmable split an industry standard feature? In 40 years, I have *never* owned a transceiver that included a programmable split feature. Admittedly some of the newer rigs may offer that function - but it was not not present in any transceiver I owned or used from the TS-520/FT-101B in the 70's through the FT-1000MP MKV including transceivers by all major manufacturers. RTFM! My 1000MP MK1 had programmable Quick Split from 1995, so your later MkV had it too (I'm looking at a downloaded manual right now). Turning to Icom, the IC-746 had Quick Split in 1997 and their top-of-the-line models probably had it even earlier. Proof enough, if proof were needed, that the two largest transceiver manufacturers have had Quick Split as part of their feature-set for at least 20 years. From their early top-of-the-line models, Quick Split has trickled down to become an expected feature in any modern CPU-controlled HF transceiver that is targeted at DX operators. Why? Because Quick Split is helpful to users - it *guarantees* to shift the TX VFO away from the frequency of the DX station in a pileup - and also because it isn't a difficult feature for manufacturers to include. (But radios like the TS-520/FT-101B from the 1970s have no part in this discussion. You can't have programmed Split in a radio that has a hand-cranked VFO... and no CPU!) What you are really asking for - based on the hold split behavior in other recent rigs is getting back to a *THIRD STATE* on a switch. It would need to be a two second hold of A- B, one second for normal split, two for quick split ... another UI cluster. No... what I am really asking for is WHAT I REALLY WROTE. If you had read the whole posting before jumping to the wrong conclusions, it was completely clear that my suggestion was to offer Quick Split as an option that could only be selected through a new item in the Configuration menu, as an alternative behavior for the existing [SPLIT] button. That proposal does NOT require a third switch state, so I wasn't asking for one. That and everything else you wrote about other recent rigs, a third state and a two second hold was the product of your own incorrectly imagined scenario. You made it up and you got it wrong. This is by no means an isolated case. Please try much harder to read what people ACTUALLY DID WRITE. 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
Why don't we get on with life. Split operation is implemented many ways by different manufactures. Proper split operation is a combination of radio and operator skills. We can do some things on the radio to improve operation, but we can not change operator skills. As I said, optimum split operation requires two radios. Single radio split brings into the equation many variables. Those who can afford multi-radio operation, try it. And the second radio does not have to be a real high performance rig. Just make sure the TX portion has a good speech processor. George, W6GF On Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:23 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: On Feb 18, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L n...@comcast.net wrote: If it's an option, OK, but I am convinced that if an op misses the existing two indicators on the LCD display, and the Δf yellow LED, then more indicators aren't gonna help. And I am unanimous in my opinion. :) Well, I'm not sure I agree. Yes, there are three indicators, but they're all quite small, and the delta-F LED is off to the side. These methods of indicating split all seemed like a great idea at the time, but even I miss them sometimes, so I'm interested in trying something else. My proposed split and non-split text indications might solve the didn't see the indicators problem, because they occupy so much more area of the front panel (about 20 times more). That seems to be the crux of the issue: a lot of operators want something *BIG* to change stage when they transmit, and that something has to indicate whether they're in split or not. This method also works whether you're doing real split (RX on VFO A, TX on VFO B) or sub-RX implied split (TX on VFO A, RX with sub on VFO B). Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to georgefrit...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
On 2015-02-19 8:14 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: What would be wrong with displaying the transmit VFO in the larger upper frequency display area (even if it is also displayed in the smaller frequency display area). The result is a blinking display when SPLIT or XIT is engaged. The upper display as labeled VFO A [A]. Displaying VFO B in that space is incorrect and also means that the operator can not see where VFO A is set. The K2 is a single receiver transceiver and the display shows the operating frequency (currently selected frequency). The K3 is a dual receiver transceiver and shows the frequencies of each receiver [VFO]. That is consistent with the differences between single and dual RX transceivers across the board. BTW, the K3 *already* changes the VFO A display when switching between RX and TX when RIT or XIT is in use. In other words, the VFO A display correctly shows the current frequency of VFO A. Wayne, for those who need an in your face display, I *like* flashing the VFO being used for transmit. I think it could even blink slowly in receive - so there would be *no doubt* where the K3 will transmit. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
I also believe the real problem is the click and transmit action of the operator. We seem to have lost the listen before transmitting polite operating considerations. Listening before transmitting requires the operator an opportunity to think about where he is going to transmit, and that should provide a time to check whether the K3 is in SPLIT or not. There is not much the K3 can do to enforce good operating practices. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/19/2015 6:44 AM, John K3TN via Elecraft wrote: I may have missed the beginning of this thread, but agree with VE3KI that there is no mind reading solution. The current approach could be improved to reduce some errors but there is a lot of skimmer spotting that does NOT indicate UP or QSK ... and lots of people click and xmit. But reducing the number of times I (all of us) mistakenly xmit on the DX station's TX frequency would be a good thing. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3, VHF Diversity
Thank you, I'm at the point in my life where my children are now adults, and while my jobkeeps me busy I now have a bit more time and funds to devote to hobbies. As a boy I spent a many hours reading the old handbooks older hams had givenme and dreaming, of being able to build all those interesting and exotic things. Later (while still in the Navy) I worked for a Two Way company where the Owner/Bosstook me under his wing (I owe much to that man) He gave me the confidence in my abilities. Though I spent the next 25 years in IT, my first love has always been radio and electronics. Now I just need time so I can build all those interesting and exotic things. From: David Anderson gm4...@yahoo.co.uk To: Harry Yingst hlyin...@yahoo.com Cc: Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, VHF Diversity Hi Harry, You are correct on satellite operation a full duplex rig is useful so you can net your signal on the other station as there you are for example transmitting up to space on 70cm and receiving the transponded signal on 2m. On high orbit satellites the slight delay is off putting if you listen to your own voice delayed and you can tend to stammer! However Chuck is writing about 144MHz moonbounce not OSCAR satellite operation. O moonbounce via OSCAR 0 we can listen to our own signal, but don't need a full duplex rig to do that because of the 2.5 second delay of our own moon echo. Typically you hear a lot of echo testing which goes like this on CW at 15wpm: Transmit O with a huge ERP then back to receive a weak and watery o if you are lucky and the gods are willing. Sometimes the shift in polarisation through the ionosphere (Faraday rotation) causes the signal to come back at 90 degrees to what you sent it up at and then you will generally hear nothing. This is where having dual receivers, one on Horizontal polarisation and the other on Vertical polarisation would help a lot. On 23cm and higher frequencies, moonbounce is generally transmitted on circular polarisation and even this requires a bit of thought because the mirror reflection off the moon converts right hand circular into left hand circular, so your antenna feed system to your dish has to cope with that. 73 David Anderson GM4JJJ On 19 Feb 2015, at 07:32, Harry Yingst via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Yes I understand the K3 is a Non-Duplex radio. Truthfully I have yet to really look at Sat Seriously and the last I really read up on it wasyears ago (up on one band down on another) So for some reason I had it stuck in my mindthat you had to listen to yourself (Duplex) Something I'll need to read up on again. Thank you From: Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, VHF Diversity I guess I missed Chuck's posting on Feb.18th. Harry: First your question the K3 is unable to operate in duplex as common ckts are used in the DSP (2nd IF) for both Tx and Rx. Only simplex operation is allowed. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gm4...@yahoo.co.uk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?
On 2015-02-18 11:33 PM, Ian White wrote: my suggestion was to offer Quick Split as an option that could only be selected through a new item in the Configuration menu, as an alternative behavior for the existing [SPLIT] button. That is *wrong* on so many levels and not even the big boys pervert the basic split function with an automatic offset. As you point out the MK V did have the capability but I never used it one time in the ten years or so I used the rig on a regular basis (it's still in the closet unused since getting the K3s). BTW, I can't find quick split in either the TS-590 or TS-990 manuals so it's still far from universal (or obvious). To force a choice between simply enabling VFO B where I have already set it and enable VFO B at a fixed offset from VFO A is wrong. It sets up for the very thing you complain about - a user who knows the operation of the rig in its normal state walks into a K3 that has been perverted with Quick Split instead of split sets down and can never get split right because quick split constantly wipes out the user's own VFO settings. No... what I am really asking for is WHAT I REALLY WROTE. What you WROTE was an industry standard feature - The big boys use a second function key or a *hold* of the split button for quick split. Since the second key version has always been available by using one of the PF keys, you *must* be advocating the hold option. However, since split is already a hold of AB, as a practical matter a hold of a hold function is a long hold. Whatever is done should *never* cause the basic definition of split - select transmit on VFO B where I have it set to be lost or only available by resetting a menu. Such an option is equivalent to tune VFO B with the big knob and tune VFO A with the little knob - it turns the user interface on its head. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
This is looking like a promising change to me. I guess start keying would have to have a delay so it didn't flash at QSK rates. Please consider adding a transmit color to the P3 too because when chasing the split dx I'm not looking at the K3 display at all. Thanks and cheers, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:33 AM To: Richard Ferch Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings Useful analysis, Rich. I agree this might cause some confusion. Here's a simpler variation. Suppose we give operators the option of briefly flashing the entire transmit VFO frequency off/on once each time you start keying? This would duplicate the intent of the TX arrow, which points to either A or B but is small enough to get lost unless you're looking right at it. No new semantics -- just a more visible TX VFO indication. This wouldn't tell you whether you're in split mode. But flashing the A vs. B displays would look quite different to the eye, so you'd quickly get used to looking for the right one as confirmation of your intent. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
For Pete's sake gentlemen, Wayne has stated that whatever is done will be menu driven, so if you don't want it, don't use it. It sounds like a lot of people could use the extra warning if the number of UP UP UPs on K1N was any indication. The conversation should now be concerned with the best way to achieve the warning. Be thankful that you have input to the decision. I don't see any other major manufacturer of Ham gear giving you the opportunity to influence the no-charge changes to your equipment. Take advantage of the opportunity and move on. W0DF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?
I haven't really been following this thread because switching in and out of split operation with a K3 has never really been a problem for me. So I have probably missed something along the way and may not even be addressing the main thrust of the thread. I quickly learned how to operate split with my K3s when I first got them and I've never had a problem since. I agree with Joe that Quick Split is not and never was practical. I never used it on my 1000MP either and would never use it if it were available on the K3. I consider myself a seasoned DXer and over the years have operated split with pretty much every type of configuration except for a separate transmitter and receiver, but have used everything from transceiver with remote vfo all the way up to transceiver with dual receivers and panadapter. I learned how to use them all and they all worked great in my hands. The more bells and whistles one has at his disposal the easier it gets of course. As an aside, I have two K3s, one with subreceiver and panadapter and the other without subreceiver but with panadapter. From my point of view, while it is nice to have the subreceiver while operating split, it's certainly not necessary, and I've never had a problem busting big split pileups with either rig. To me, it's not a big deal to quickly switch the main tuning dial from VFO A to VFO B to quickly monitor the pileup. What I'm saying here is that I don't think anything is broken here, so I don't really think it needs fixing. As long as any new so-called enhancement is menu selected and the choice to use the old system is still available I'll be a happy camper. Don, N5LZ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:30 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split? On 2015-02-19 9:49 AM, brian wrote: Ian's proposal won't gore your ox. BS. It sure will if I set down to another K3 that has been set up so the normal Split function is Quick Split that forces VFO B to some predetermined offset from VFO A. I *don't have a problem with quick split* as long as it does not involve any change to the current split operation or reprogram the operation of the current Hold AB. A long hold or [programmable] fixed offset of the current split function fundamentally changes the current UI. A fixed offset violates the establish transmit on the current VFO B frequency principle. A long hold is fraught with timing sensitivity as proven by all the problems with LINK vs. DIVERSITY. This hooey over Quick Split is just like the periodic BS about wanting direct access band buttons with frequency stacking or the debate about XFIL vs. APF v.s. Dual PB. Creating a separate button for Split with a hold for Quick Split is a feature that is not practical unless you want Wayne to design a larger front panel with more buttons ... sure it might be nice but otherwise it is a distraction as something that does not fit in the current UI. Could one come up with a better use of the current buttons? Probably. How about removing B Set - simply use A/B set up B and use A/B again. That would free up a hold of A/B for AB then Split could move to AB and Split Hold be used for Quick Split. However, I'm sure someone would have a problem with that solution as well. This is just one more manifestation of the user interface limitations of a small format transceiver. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A way to show both SPLIT and NON-SPLIT warnings
Wayne, I have it!! Buy the rights to the Kenwood TS990 front panel. There are enough buttons and displays to make anybody happy. Gee Whiz George,W6GF Sent from my iPad On Feb 18, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote: The fact that the K3 has the blessings of Cognitive Science is most reassuring, Wayne. :-) Phil W7OX On 2/18/15 8:00 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: User interface design is often called upon to make up for human failings. We get distracted, we forget, we have trouble breaking bad habits, we easily acquire new ones. This is true no matter how much training we have. The designer tries to take such issues into account up front, but sometimes we find out later and make adjustments. My cognitive science professor, Don Norman, put a heavy emphasis on embedding knowledge in the world. Signs and indicators need to be as unambiguous as possible to help those of us who can't or won't pay attention. Ideally the indications are intuitive, so users adapt to them easily and don't feel oppressed by them. That distinction is in play here. And while I'd love to add a dozen more LEDs, a klaxon horn, and a Van de Graf generator to the K3's user interface, we have to work within the limits of the existing hardware. Providing an optional means of reinforcing split/non-split state is in the tradition of design iteration -- using feedback about real errors that people make, then minimizing them. That's why we're having this conversation. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to georgefrit...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Adding the KPA500 with the KAT3 installed
Don't forget with the KANT3 you have choice of two TX antennas -- just put it in bupass and away you go . The KAT you only have one TX ant . I can run a higher power amp by moving one coax switch to one or the other amp . Hank K7HP -Original Message- From: Rick WA6NHC Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:01 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Adding the KPA500 with the KAT3 installed Bypass it. I believe in multiple redundancies for critical parts (except amps, too expensive). Besides I may choose to put the K3 in the RV one of these days and with the KANT3 in it, it's ready to go. 73, Rick wa6nhc On 2/19/2015 4:33 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: I was wondering what others do when they add the KPA500 and they have the KAT3. Do most just bypass it , or remove it and put the KANT3 module back in? Thank you __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pfizenma...@q.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] 10 min minder and keyboard
I like the timer idea. I will be working with scouts this weekend and things get busy, so reminding to ID would be nice, BUT... please don't pester or overload the email system with comments as I would RATHER have the Elecraft crew working on the keyboard firmware for the PX3. THAT would have been a GREAT demo for the scouts. Look ma, no computer. So, leave them alone to work on the next improvement for the PX3 !! 73, steve WB3LGC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID
I think there should be a conelrad alert system built in also, since the K3 can cover the BC band and knows when the alert system would go off, have the display blink the entire display for national alerts. If the VHF option was installed it could also pick up the weather alert signals and warnings and flash that on the screen.., Of course in a conelrad alert it should disable the transmitter immediately per regulations. There should also be a roger beep sent when unkeying the mike so that you know your no longer transmitting and the other station can hear when you stop for sure, so they do not double on your transmission. Something new other than the standard beep we hear, perhaps a ding dong type sound. Just a few more features and the K3 could be the best general radio on the market. 73 Merv K9FD/KH6 Nice, Key on the PTT key, you would get one more warning 10 minutes (or 9) after your last transmit then no more. I am bad at IDs but this falls into the someday bucket. 73, Jim -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Harry Yingst via Elecraft Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:50 PM To: Dwayne Rohmer; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID I kinda like that one From: Dwayne Rohmer djcaroh...@ntin.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:25 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID K3 Feature Request MAIN: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID (two beeps every ten minutes) 73, Dwayne WV5I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimmil...@stl-online.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@flex.com . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Adding the KPA500 with the KAT3 installed
I was wondering what others do when they add the KPA500 and they have the KAT3. Do most just bypass it , or remove it and put the KANT3 module back in? Thank you __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Adding the KPA500 with the KAT3 installed
I bypass it, Harry. Might want to use the K3/100 barefoot, afterall. Phil W7OX On 2/19/15 4:33 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: I was wondering what others do when they add the KPA500 and they have the KAT3. Do most just bypass it , or remove it and put the KANT3 module back in? Thank you __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Adding the KPA500 with the KAT3 installed
Bypass it. I believe in multiple redundancies for critical parts (except amps, too expensive). Besides I may choose to put the K3 in the RV one of these days and with the KANT3 in it, it's ready to go. 73, Rick wa6nhc On 2/19/2015 4:33 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: I was wondering what others do when they add the KPA500 and they have the KAT3. Do most just bypass it , or remove it and put the KANT3 module back in? Thank you __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?
I think we've beat this topic to death at this point. Let's close the thread for now to give everyone else some relief from quick split topic overload. 73, Eric List Modulator elecraft.com On 2/19/2015 2:29 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?
W4TV wrote: If you want to talk about a new feature set for a new model with a different UI, that's fine but don't mess with Split Don't mess with Split is not your call to make, Joe. even the current basic implementation is obviously a problem. Overload the control or [optionally] change the basic behavior of that control and you are going to cause real confusion. At last, something we can agree about: the current basic implementation is obviously a problem. The problem is that the current implementation of Split is *too* basic. It cannot handle the routine task of preparing the K3 for pileup operation without significant risk of human error. Hence the request for a 'smarter' alternative that also includes the vital step of moving VFOB away from the frequency of the DX station. I am totally confident that Elecraft can handle the implications of offering two alternative behaviors for the [SPLIT] button, given that Yaesu and Icom have long been able to offer two alternatives or even three. I am also confident that Elecraft users are at least as competent as Yaesu and Icom users. Let's keep this in perspective: this is a straightforward feature request for an option that already has a proven 20-year track record. Since it would only be an option, every K3 user would still be free to make their own individual choice. Given all that, I see no reason for just *one* individual to have responded in such a wildly exaggerated manner. A K3 that has been perverted with Quick Split... wherever is *that* coming from? 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Feature Request - Main: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID
Let's close this thread for now in the interest of keeping list traffic volume under control. 73, Eric List moderator etc. elecraft.com On 2/19/2015 2:44 PM, Rick Bates, WA6NHC wrote: Tap 5 to make it sticky (repeatable) the next time period (which could be hourly too?) Rick, WA6NHC On Feb 19, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Dwayne Rohmer djcaroh...@ntin.net wrote: K3 Feature Request MAIN: ALARM - Tap 4 to activate reminder to ID (two beeps every ten minutes) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip Hey Wayne!
is the RTC implemented in the PIC chip? i did not see a rtc chip in the printsmy eyesight these days. why dont we just try to understand how it works and then we can accept what we see. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arlen Fletcher Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 08:05 AM To: Richard Gillingham Cc: Elecraft Mailing List; k...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip I’m guilty of starting a thread similar to this one a couple of months back. My K3 clock drifts and, being a newbie, I wasn’t certain whether it was within spec or not. I learned that it is within spec - but I wanted something more accurate - not because I NEED it, but because I thought it might be a fun project. So I designed and built a GPS clock. It uses a $40 GPS module that has a battery-backed clock chip in it (so it keeps reasonable time when there is no GPS satellite lock). It only needs a single GPS satellite for accurate time. I put it out in my garage because my shack is in the basement and GPS coverage is marginal there. It communicates with the display unit via an XBee Series One radio link, updating the display in my shack (driven by an Arduino Uno) about every 200 milliseconds. Is it overkill? Probably. But I had fun designing it, building it, and writing and debugging the code. I’m a ham… I do things like this because it’s fun - and since I’m not selling it I don’t have to worry too much about how practical it is. It’d be nice if the K3 clock was more accurate - but then I wouldn’t have learned about GPS timekeeping, XBees, and driving an I2C display and GPS unit from an Arduino! :-) 73 Arlen, AA7F On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Richard Gillingham w...@hotmail.com wrote: Here in South Florida, atomic clocks will not sync it all. 73, Gil W1RG Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 3, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com /divdivDate:02/15/2015 1:25 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com /divdivCc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net, k...@yahoogroups.com /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip /divdiv /div Given the tiny size of atomic clock / WWVB devices ... as in wrist watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and KX3 and make the clock actually usable. 73 Ken - K0PP On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote: In which radio? On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote: Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time. An adjust method for what we have? Thanks, Jim KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kengk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arlenfletc...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to her...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message
Re: [Elecraft] Extra long KX3 stand to hold both KX3 and PX3
I bought two, one for each! Phil W7OX On 2/19/15 7:19 PM, John wrote: Hello. Has anyone seen a KX3 stand such as the Nifty KX3 Desk Stand, but long enough to hold both the KX3 and a PX3 together? Thanks. John, kx4o __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Adding the KPA500 with the KAT3 installed
Bypass it. Rich - N5ZC On 2/19/2015 6:33 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: I was wondering what others do when they add the KPA500 and they have the KAT3. Do most just bypass it , or remove it and put the KANT3 module back in? Thank you __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rtho...@rthorne.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 10 min minder and keyboard
Yes, and that should be the Fixed-Tune (or whatever it's called) mode for the PX3 -- any day now :-) Phil W7OX On 2/19/15 7:23 PM, steve wrote: I like the timer idea. I will be working with scouts this weekend and things get busy, so reminding to ID would be nice, BUT... please don't pester or overload the email system with comments as I would RATHER have the Elecraft crew working on the keyboard firmware for the PX3. THAT would have been a GREAT demo for the scouts. Look ma, no computer. So, leave them alone to work on the next improvement for the PX3 !! 73, steve WB3LGC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Split off alarm
Wayne, Would it be possible to have an alarm like a beep, go ON if we turn off split inadvertently (or willlingly) ? The embarassing moment is when you call K1N directly on its frequency. So we need something to avoid being treated as an idiot. No, I did not run into this, one gentle UP reminder with my call sign suffix was enough. Wondering how I got off split, I thought it would be nice to have a warning to wake me up. Just a few more lines of coding Wayne.a typical end user viewpoint of course. 73 to all Bob VE2AXO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Extra long KX3 stand to hold both KX3 and PX3
Hello. Has anyone seen a KX3 stand such as the Nifty KX3 Desk Stand, but long enough to hold both the KX3 and a PX3 together? Thanks. John, kx4o __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
