[Elecraft] K2 + KPA100 + KAT100

2015-08-08 Thread Kevin Schache

Hi to all,

My K2 includes the KSB2 SSB, KDSP2, and the K102. The external KAT100-1 
ATU has also been completed.
I've just received kits for the KNB2 and the KPA100 and I'm planning to 
complete them in that order.


After a lot of research in the archives of this list, I've now belatedly 
decided I want to keep the K2 for QRP portable and keep the KAT100 and 
the KPA100 separate in an external EC2 enclosure.
I see that I can order the KAT100PNL to convert the KAT100-1 to a 
KAT100-2 but I'm uncertain what panels are included in that kit.
This is probably a stupid question but, Is that all that's required to 
convert the KAT100-1 enclosure to an EC2 with space for the KPA100 ?
I'm cross with myself for not thinking this out before I placed the last 
order.

Is there anything else I will need ?
Or do I have to buy a complete EC2 ?

Thanks and 73's
Kev   VK5KS

K2 #7552
KSB2, KDSP2, K102, KAT100-1 and
KNB2, KPA100 in process

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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread Ian White
G4GNX wrote:

Although I'm in the UK and slightly different rules may apply
[...]
You really do need specialist insurance as most ordinary residential
insurance companies just don't understand our special needs and will
attempt to wriggle out of a payout on very flimsy grounds.


There's a story about a UK ham who claimed on his homeowner's insurance
for the loss of his amateur microwave equipment. They sent him a voucher
for a kitchen appliances store.


73 from Ian GM3SEK


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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Rx Filters

2015-08-08 Thread Richard Ferch
Your understanding of diversity mode is incorrect. What you described is 
NON-diversity mode, i.e. normal or default use of the subRX. In this 
normal subRX mode, the two receivers are on different frequencies - the 
main RX (left ear) is on the VFO A frequency (upper display) and the 
subRX (right ear) is on the VFO B frequency (lower display). The 
transmitter is on VFO A if SPLIT is off, and on VFO B if SPLIT is on. 
You can use this for split operation in either orientation (RX on A, TX 
on B or RX on B, TX on A), or you can use it to monitor two frequencies 
at once, and choose which of the two to work on depending on whether you 
turn SPLIT mode on or off. You can also control which RX is/are heard in 
each ear with a configuration option, but the default is A(main) left, 
B(sub) right.


Diversity mode is quite different. In Diversity mode, BOTH receivers are 
on VFO A (upper display). You would use a different antenna for each 
receiver (otherwise there is no point) - because the two receivers are 
using the same VFO and are phase-locked, the relative strengths and 
arrival times of signals in the two ears gives you a kind of panoramic 
soundscape, where the signal you want is localized at a particular 
position in space (seems to come from a particular direction), while 
noise is spread over the whole space, and QRM often comes from a 
different direction relative to the signal you want. It's kind of like 
stereo (diversity) vs. mono (non-diversity, both receivers on the same 
antenna).


In Diversity mode, the lower VFO B display works just like it does with 
a single receiver - it tells you where the transmitter will be when 
SPLIT is on, but it has no connection with either receiver. Do not make 
the mistake of thinking it tells you where the subRX is - that is only 
true in non-diversity mode.


Normal non-diversity dual receive is usable in all modes, including 
phone modes, although the level of activity and the likelihood of split 
operation might be low enough in AM and FM that it might not be 
economically worthwhile to add subRX filters for these modes.


Diversity mode is very useful in CW. It is not useful in digital modes 
(unless someone can write software to emulate what the human brain does 
with the inputs from two ears). I don't know how useful it would turn 
out to be in wider bandwidth modes like SSB, AM and FM - never tried.


I don't know how the filters are installed in a factory build, but the 
arrangement you suggested looks reasonable to me. I don't think there is 
a hardware requirement to line the filters up in corresponding slots in 
both receivers, but from a human interface point of view that makes 
sense. Certainly that's what I did, and like you I left room for the 
filters I thought I would be most likely to want to add later.


73,
Rich VE3KI


(unknown call sign) wrote:


My understanding of diversity reception is that I can receive two different
frequencies and though used more for CW when working pile-ups, it's not
something I'd likely use for FM, hence the single FM roofing filter. So I
was wondering about installing AM on the sub just so that I could have that
as well.


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 + KPA100 + KAT100

2015-08-08 Thread Don Wilhelm

Kev,

You will need the EC2 as well as the KAT100PNL kits.  The KAT100PNL kit 
has only the front and rear panels as well as the headers required for 
the KAT100 board.

You may also want the tilt stand if you want to tilt it the same as the K2.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/8/2015 2:31 AM, Kevin Schache wrote:

Hi to all,

My K2 includes the KSB2 SSB, KDSP2, and the K102. The external 
KAT100-1 ATU has also been completed.
I've just received kits for the KNB2 and the KPA100 and I'm planning 
to complete them in that order.


After a lot of research in the archives of this list, I've now 
belatedly decided I want to keep the K2 for QRP portable and keep the 
KAT100 and the KPA100 separate in an external EC2 enclosure.
I see that I can order the KAT100PNL to convert the KAT100-1 to a 
KAT100-2 but I'm uncertain what panels are included in that kit.
This is probably a stupid question but, Is that all that's required to 
convert the KAT100-1 enclosure to an EC2 with space for the KPA100 ?
I'm cross with myself for not thinking this out before I placed the 
last order.

Is there anything else I will need ?
Or do I have to buy a complete EC2 ?



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[Elecraft] HRD and K3

2015-08-08 Thread Larry Snyder
I have my K3 connected to the PC and the K3 software works fine.

 

I have 2 audio cables between Line IN and Line Out of the K3 to the Mic and
Speakers on the PC.

 

With HRD - I see the QSOs on the screen and of course the waterfall display
at the bottom with an Audio level of 10%.When I attempt to call CQ -

 

The K3 goes into transmit but there is no power coming out of the radio.

 

MIC SEL was set to Line In I changed it to FP

MIC+LIN was set to NA and I set it ON and the MIC level is set to 60.

 

Still no difference.

 

Any other ideas??

 

Sincerely

 

Larry

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Rx Filters

2015-08-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



When I assembled my K3, I ordered the filters as FM, 2.7, 1.8, 400,
and had the last slot open. For the K3S, I have (1) FM, (2) 2.8, and
(2) 400’s. So I have the following questions.


 How will the filters be installed as a factory build?

My guess is that the filters would be installed in the first two or
three slots as they were in my original factory built K3.

 If I have a say so, would it make sense to install it as such
 (O = open)
 Slot  1 2  3   4   5
 Main FM2.8 O  400  O
 Sub   O2.8 O  400  O

That is the way mine are done - the Sub RX has a second FM filter
(I wanted the ability to use wide audio for SWLing with an Aux
antenna) and the main TX has a 1500 Hz filter in slot 3 which I
do not use and the 200 Hz filter in slot 5.

If I were to do it again, there would be no changes except to replace
the 1500 Hz filter with a 1800 or possibly a 2100 (that is my typical
SSB bandwidth).  The FM filter it just fine for AM - both TX and RX.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 8/8/2015 12:59 AM, Lane wrote:

Hi,

I have a K3 w/o a sub-receiver and continue to enjoy learning about the
hobby, and because of that, I’d like to start learning about all the things
I can do w/ a sub-receiver. So I’ve ordered the new K3S-F. Seeing as I have
several weeks to rethink my order before it ships, I’d like to better
understand the sub and filters. I also hear the sub is a pain to remove and
wanted to get my filters right initially if possible.

When I assembled my K3, I ordered the filters as FM, 2.7, 1.8, 400, and had
the last slot open. For the K3S, I have (1) FM, (2) 2.8, and (2) 400’s. So
I have the following questions.

How will the filters be installed as a factory build?

If I have a say so, would it make sense to install it as such (O = open)
Slot  1   2   3   4   5
MainFM   2.8 O  400O
Sub   O2.8 O  400O

By doing that, I leave the last slot open for 200Hz filters if they come
back, and slot 3 for something between 2.1 and above 400 if I can find a
good reason to fill them.

My understanding of diversity reception is that I can receive two different
frequencies and though used more for CW when working pile-ups, it’s not
something I’d likely use for FM, hence the single FM roofing filter. So I
was wondering about installing AM on the sub just so that I could have that
as well.

I'd be interested in knowing how you guys did it.

Thanks,
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[Elecraft] Diversity modes

2015-08-08 Thread Bill Frantz
There are some other uses of diversity modes which aren't common 
in amateur practice, but might be interesting for special applications.


Pro-audio radio microphones use diversity receivers to minimize 
signal loss as the microphones move. I believe, and Jim or Joe 
will correct me if I am wrong, they transmit using FM. By 
measuring the degree of quieting on the two receivers, the 
combiner can decide which signal is better and route that signal 
to the audio mixing board. Since the audio volume represented by 
a FM signal is mostly independent of signal strength, good 
quality audio gets to the board even as the system changes 
receivers. This kind of system might be useful for amateur 
weak-signal FM work.


The other interesting diversity mode I know of is the way the 
costal commercial communication radio stations worked in the 
1930's and later. They were using CW to send messages across the 
oceans. Each station transmitted on 3 separate bands. The 
receivers listened to all 3 bands and routed the best signal 
to the operator. (I don't know how they determined the best 
signal using 1930s technology.) Obviously a two channel version 
could be assembled using a K3 with a sub-receiver.


A system where you can automatically determine which receiver 
has the better signal, could be useful for RTTY. Measuring the 
difference in signal strength of the mark and space signals 
compared with the signal strength half way between them might be 
a useful technique.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 8/8/15 at 4:37 AM, ve3...@storm.ca (Richard Ferch) wrote:

In Diversity mode, the lower VFO B display works just like it 
does with a single receiver - it tells you where the 
transmitter will be when SPLIT is on, but it has no connection 
with either receiver. Do not make the mistake of thinking it 
tells you where the subRX is - that is only true in 
non-diversity mode.


Normal non-diversity dual receive is usable in all modes, 
including phone modes, although the level of activity and the 
likelihood of split operation might be low enough in AM and FM 
that it might not be economically worthwhile to add subRX 
filters for these modes.


Diversity mode is very useful in CW. It is not useful in 
digital modes (unless someone can write software to emulate 
what the human brain does with the inputs from two ears). I 
don't know how useful it would turn out to be in wider 
bandwidth modes like SSB, AM and FM - never tried.

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Re: [Elecraft] HRD and K3

2015-08-08 Thread Richard Ferch
I don't use HRD, but the configuration should be basically the same 
regardless of which software you use. My guess as to what was wrong 
initially would be sound card output level too low or muted, but since 
then you have made changes in the wrong direction.


First, you didn't mention which mode you were trying to use, but I am 
assuming it is a sound card digital mode. In digital modes, you should 
put the K3 into DATA A mode. In principle it is possible to use USB, but 
you have to change all sorts of other settings between digital modes and 
SSB (audio input selection, TX and RX EQ off, compression off, and maybe 
different Vox settings). Using DATA A relieves you of all that 
reconfiguring every time you change modes. If your software doesn't want 
to let you use DATA A, maybe it isn't configured correctly for the K3.


Next, since your sound card's output is connected to the K3's Line In 
jack, then MIC SEL should be set to Line In. That's where the audio 
input will be coming from. This setting is remembered separately in DATA 
A vs. phone modes.


In digital modes, MIC+LIN should be Off (actually it will be N/A when 
MIC SEL is set to Line In). You do not want room sounds, fan noise, your 
breathing or anything you say being transmitted on top of the digital 
signal.


The MIC level control (which will actually be the LINE level control 
with MIC SEL = Line In) is set in conjunction with the computer's sound 
card level control. With the transmitter connected to a dummy load 
and/or transmit power dialed down to nothing, set the software to 
transmit using an audio frequency in the middle of the waterfall, put 
the computer's playback level control for the sound card you are using 
somewhere in the middle of its range (not all the way up and not all the 
way down), and adjust the LINE level on the K3 and/or the computer's 
level control until the K3's ALC meter reads 4-5 bars. To adjust the 
transmitted signal power, use the PWR control - don't change the 
MIC/LINE gain control once it is set correctly.


There are several different ways to control TX/RX switching, but it 
appears as if you have one working, so we don't need to go into that 
unless you are having problems with it.


73,
Rich VE3KI


HK2LS wrote:


I have my K3 connected to the PC and the K3 software works fine.

I have 2 audio cables between Line IN and Line Out of the K3 to the Mic and
Speakers on the PC.

With HRD - I see the QSOs on the screen and of course the waterfall display
at the bottom with an Audio level of 10%.When I attempt to call CQ -

The K3 goes into transmit but there is no power coming out of the radio.

MIC SEL was set to Line In I changed it to FP

MIC+LIN was set to NA and I set it ON and the MIC level is set to 60.

Still no difference.

Any other ideas??


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Re: [Elecraft] HRD and K3

2015-08-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 Any other ideas??

Are you using MODE=DATA and data sub-mode=DATA_A?

 MIC SEL was set to Line In I changed it to FP

 MIC+LIN was set to NA and I set it ON and the MIC level is set to 60.

Set MIC+LIN back to OFF, set Mic SEL back to Line In, place DM780 in
PSK31 transmit and adjust the Mic Gain (actually Line Gain in DATA_A)
for four bars of ALC with the fifth just flickering then adjust PWR Out
for no more than 50W.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 8/8/2015 8:43 AM, Larry Snyder wrote:

I have my K3 connected to the PC and the K3 software works fine.



I have 2 audio cables between Line IN and Line Out of the K3 to the Mic and
Speakers on the PC.



With HRD - I see the QSOs on the screen and of course the waterfall display
at the bottom with an Audio level of 10%.When I attempt to call CQ -



The K3 goes into transmit but there is no power coming out of the radio.



MIC SEL was set to Line In I changed it to FP

MIC+LIN was set to NA and I set it ON and the MIC level is set to 60.



Still no difference.



Any other ideas??



Sincerely



Larry



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[Elecraft] Rig Insurance REPAIR COSTS

2015-08-08 Thread bill NY9H

At 10:54 PM 8/7/2015, Reed wrote:
I have HRIA for a number of years.   I never had a claim, thank 
goodness, but this insurance is by hams,  Bill W3WH. 
http://hamradioinsurance.com/  You can also check out the eham reviews.

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1830


I have HRIA also, AND DID HAVE A CLAIM...  My ICOM 7800 STOPPED TURNING ON
logic board  to the tune of 700$ plus 200+ fgt  insurance ( 70 lbs !!!

I opt for an additional charge for  electrical failure...  and 
according to ICOM it was a surge..

on the 5VDC line,,, ( Hmmm  doesn't that come from the icom power supply )

 HRIA covered it ,,,phewsent the bill got the check 

The same thing happened three years later...
surges , hah...  that unit is on an online 3.5k ups.   resolved a 
good solution with ICOM.


bill NY9H  /3


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Re: [Elecraft] HRD and K3

2015-08-08 Thread Matt Zilmer
snip

The K3 goes into transmit but there is no power coming out of the radio.

Problem areas to look for -

1. The K3 mode should be TX DATA (seen on the graphic), and its data
mode should be DATA A.  DATA A is used to interface external sound to
the K3 through line in and out jacks.

2. Line in and out need to go to the sound unit you intend to use on
the PC.  MIC SEL at the K3 should be set to Line In.

3. HRD needs to be configured to use the sound unit above.

Once you've juggled these around to get *some power* out of the K3 on
TX, then you should set the K3's LIne In gain (via the MIC control
while in TX to a reasonable level).  For the K3, use the ALC metering
to set 4-5 bars of ALC indicated.  This is the correct drive level to
use.

You may need to adjust both the K3's Line In gain AND the sound unit's
Playback level to get a happy medium.  Once you've got it, write it
down in case something gets moved around.

73,
matt
W6NIA
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[Elecraft] FS K2-100

2015-08-08 Thread Tomy
I have an almost fully loaded K2-100 For Sale.It includes the Kat-100 External 
Auto Tuner,all the cables set up for tuner and PC.  Also a new Elecraft hand 
mic.all the manuals. Fully aligned, calibrated and ready to have fun.If 
interested contact me for more info  kf...@arrl.net 928-710-9231 73! Tomy KF7GC

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Re: [Elecraft] HRD and K3

2015-08-08 Thread Kenneth Christiansen
Hi to the gang

I have to agree with all the advice from the other hams but I have experienced 
one more thing at least with my KX3. If I keep turning up the audio the 
indications go up to the required 4 to 5 bars than if I keep turning up the 
audio all the bars go away. I can see with a mic gain of 60 that you may be 
seeing the same thing.

My advice is turn all the gains down to minimum. Bring the computer sound card 
up to mid scale. Slowly bring the mike gain up and see if you see the same 
results I described above.

If this doesn't work please excuse the bandwidth but it has happened to me at 
least twice and caused me to look for other troubles such as cords that were 
not there.

Good luck

Ken  W0CZ   w0cz at i29 dot net

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 On Aug 8, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 
 snip
 
 The K3 goes into transmit but there is no power coming out of the radio.
 Problem areas to look for -
 
 1. The K3 mode should be TX DATA (seen on the graphic), and its data
 mode should be DATA A.  DATA A is used to interface external sound to
 the K3 through line in and out jacks.
 
 2. Line in and out need to go to the sound unit you intend to use on
 the PC.  MIC SEL at the K3 should be set to Line In.
 
 3. HRD needs to be configured to use the sound unit above.
 
 Once you've juggled these around to get *some power* out of the K3 on
 TX, then you should set the K3's LIne In gain (via the MIC control
 while in TX to a reasonable level).  For the K3, use the ALC metering
 to set 4-5 bars of ALC indicated.  This is the correct drive level to
 use.
 
 You may need to adjust both the K3's Line In gain AND the sound unit's
 Playback level to get a happy medium.  Once you've got it, write it
 down in case something gets moved around.
 
 73,
 matt
 W6NIA
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[Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Marco HB9CAT
I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”) and 
configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m using 
is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything worked fine.

Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve just 
connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it went to TX, 
USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as high so it 
keyed CW.
I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu: 
there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual I got to 
the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the other menus.

The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB drivers 
and set RTS low.

Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of safe 
mode allowing me to change configuration ?

Thanks

Marco HB9CAT

P.S.: all firmware revisions are the latest 
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Rx Filters

2015-08-08 Thread Lane
Joe - How did you get the 200Hz filters for the K3S? I didn't see those as
options anymore, but wished they were.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 When I assembled my K3, I ordered the filters as FM, 2.7, 1.8, 400,
 and had the last slot open. For the K3S, I have (1) FM, (2) 2.8, and
 (2) 400’s. So I have the following questions.

 
  How will the filters be installed as a factory build?

 My guess is that the filters would be installed in the first two or
 three slots as they were in my original factory built K3.

  If I have a say so, would it make sense to install it as such
  (O = open)
  Slot  1 2  3   4   5
  Main FM2.8 O  400  O
  Sub   O2.8 O  400  O

 That is the way mine are done - the Sub RX has a second FM filter
 (I wanted the ability to use wide audio for SWLing with an Aux
 antenna) and the main TX has a 1500 Hz filter in slot 3 which I
 do not use and the 200 Hz filter in slot 5.

 If I were to do it again, there would be no changes except to replace
 the 1500 Hz filter with a 1800 or possibly a 2100 (that is my typical
 SSB bandwidth).  The FM filter it just fine for AM - both TX and RX.

 73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



 On 8/8/2015 12:59 AM, Lane wrote:

 Hi,

 I have a K3 w/o a sub-receiver and continue to enjoy learning about the
 hobby, and because of that, I’d like to start learning about all the
 things
 I can do w/ a sub-receiver. So I’ve ordered the new K3S-F. Seeing as I
 have
 several weeks to rethink my order before it ships, I’d like to better
 understand the sub and filters. I also hear the sub is a pain to remove
 and
 wanted to get my filters right initially if possible.

 When I assembled my K3, I ordered the filters as FM, 2.7, 1.8, 400, and
 had
 the last slot open. For the K3S, I have (1) FM, (2) 2.8, and (2) 400’s. So
 I have the following questions.

 How will the filters be installed as a factory build?

 If I have a say so, would it make sense to install it as such (O = open)
 Slot  1   2   3   4   5
 MainFM   2.8 O  400O
 Sub   O2.8 O  400O

 By doing that, I leave the last slot open for 200Hz filters if they come
 back, and slot 3 for something between 2.1 and above 400 if I can find a
 good reason to fill them.

 My understanding of diversity reception is that I can receive two
 different
 frequencies and though used more for CW when working pile-ups, it’s not
 something I’d likely use for FM, hence the single FM roofing filter. So I
 was wondering about installing AM on the sub just so that I could have
 that
 as well.

 I'd be interested in knowing how you guys did it.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Rx Filters

2015-08-08 Thread Lane
Richard,

Thanks for your reply, very helpful. Never had the rig to try this before.
Looking forwards to learning to operate in split, diversity, and any other
way possible. Seems like one could write a few books on operating w/
sub-receivers alone.


On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Richard Ferch ve3...@storm.ca wrote:

 Your understanding of diversity mode is incorrect. What you described is
 NON-diversity mode, i.e. normal or default use of the subRX. In this normal
 subRX mode, the two receivers are on different frequencies - the main RX
 (left ear) is on the VFO A frequency (upper display) and the subRX (right
 ear) is on the VFO B frequency (lower display). The transmitter is on VFO A
 if SPLIT is off, and on VFO B if SPLIT is on. You can use this for split
 operation in either orientation (RX on A, TX on B or RX on B, TX on A), or
 you can use it to monitor two frequencies at once, and choose which of the
 two to work on depending on whether you turn SPLIT mode on or off. You can
 also control which RX is/are heard in each ear with a configuration option,
 but the default is A(main) left, B(sub) right.

 Diversity mode is quite different. In Diversity mode, BOTH receivers are
 on VFO A (upper display). You would use a different antenna for each
 receiver (otherwise there is no point) - because the two receivers are
 using the same VFO and are phase-locked, the relative strengths and arrival
 times of signals in the two ears gives you a kind of panoramic soundscape,
 where the signal you want is localized at a particular position in space
 (seems to come from a particular direction), while noise is spread over the
 whole space, and QRM often comes from a different direction relative to the
 signal you want. It's kind of like stereo (diversity) vs. mono
 (non-diversity, both receivers on the same antenna).

 In Diversity mode, the lower VFO B display works just like it does with a
 single receiver - it tells you where the transmitter will be when SPLIT is
 on, but it has no connection with either receiver. Do not make the mistake
 of thinking it tells you where the subRX is - that is only true in
 non-diversity mode.

 Normal non-diversity dual receive is usable in all modes, including phone
 modes, although the level of activity and the likelihood of split operation
 might be low enough in AM and FM that it might not be economically
 worthwhile to add subRX filters for these modes.

 Diversity mode is very useful in CW. It is not useful in digital modes
 (unless someone can write software to emulate what the human brain does
 with the inputs from two ears). I don't know how useful it would turn out
 to be in wider bandwidth modes like SSB, AM and FM - never tried.

 I don't know how the filters are installed in a factory build, but the
 arrangement you suggested looks reasonable to me. I don't think there is a
 hardware requirement to line the filters up in corresponding slots in both
 receivers, but from a human interface point of view that makes sense.
 Certainly that's what I did, and like you I left room for the filters I
 thought I would be most likely to want to add later.

 73,
 Rich VE3KI


 (unknown call sign) wrote:

 My understanding of diversity reception is that I can receive two different
 frequencies and though used more for CW when working pile-ups, it's not
 something I'd likely use for FM, hence the single FM roofing filter. So I
 was wondering about installing AM on the sub just so that I could have
 that
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
See if there's a smartphone app that breaks out a usb to which you've
plugged in the power cable. I'm going to look for one now.

Otherwise you've put yourself in a very interesting box. Need to turn off
that dtr for moving.  :)

73, Guy K2AV

On Saturday, August 8, 2015, Marco HB9CAT hb9...@thezollingers.org wrote:

 I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”)
 and configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m
 using is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything
 worked fine.

 Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve
 just connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it
 went to TX, USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as
 high so it keyed CW.
 I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY
 menu: there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual
 I got to the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the
 other menus.

 The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB
 drivers and set RTS low.

 Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of
 safe mode allowing me to change configuration ?

 Thanks

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Lyle Johnson
This problem is fixed in the latest beta firmware for the K3/K3S. Until 
then, it is best to set PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF before taking the K3/K3S to a 
location without USB connectivity.


73,

Lyle KK7P

On 8/8/15 10:31 AM, Marco HB9CAT wrote:

I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”) and 
configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m using 
is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything worked fine.

Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve just 
connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it went to TX, 
USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as high so it 
keyed CW.
I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu: 
there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual I got to 
the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the other menus.

The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB drivers 
and set RTS low.

Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of safe 
mode allowing me to change configuration ?

Thanks

Marco HB9CAT

P.S.: all firmware revisions are the latest
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Re: [Elecraft] HRD and K3

2015-08-08 Thread Lyle Johnson
In addition to Joe's excellent advice, you may need to set the Tx output 
level for the soundcard in DM780 to a higher-than-default level.  In the 
DM780 version I have on my computer, I have the Transmit Level sliders 
for Master and Wave both set to about 70.


With that, my K3 (S) LINE (IN) gain is set to 23 for 4-5 bars of ALC 
using PSK31.


YMMV,
73,

Lyle KK7P

On 8/8/15 6:36 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 Any other ideas??

Are you using MODE=DATA and data sub-mode=DATA_A?

 MIC SEL was set to Line In I changed it to FP

 MIC+LIN was set to NA and I set it ON and the MIC level is set to 60.

Set MIC+LIN back to OFF, set Mic SEL back to Line In, place DM780 in
PSK31 transmit and adjust the Mic Gain (actually Line Gain in DATA_A)
for four bars of ALC with the fifth just flickering then adjust PWR Out
for no more than 50W.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 8/8/2015 8:43 AM, Larry Snyder wrote:

I have my K3 connected to the PC and the K3 software works fine.



I have 2 audio cables between Line IN and Line Out of the K3 to the 
Mic and

Speakers on the PC.



With HRD - I see the QSOs on the screen and of course the waterfall 
display

at the bottom with an Audio level of 10%.When I attempt to call CQ -



The K3 goes into transmit but there is no power coming out of the radio.



MIC SEL was set to Line In I changed it to FP

MIC+LIN was set to NA and I set it ON and the MIC level is set to 60.



Still no difference.



Any other ideas??



Sincerely



Larry



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive,  I've read the 
manual several times.   These discussions then raise the question, is 
there no Master Reset that returns the radio to factory default 
values?   I may have overlooked this.   However the product not having a 
Master Reset I view is a major shortcoming of the product.


If its there, I'd specifically like to know more.

73 Bob, K4TAX

On 8/8/2015 12:31 PM, Marco HB9CAT wrote:

I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”) and 
configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m using 
is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything worked fine.

Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve just 
connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it went to TX, 
USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as high so it 
keyed CW.
I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu: 
there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual I got to 
the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the other menus.

The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB drivers 
and set RTS low.

Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of safe 
mode allowing me to change configuration ?

Thanks

Marco HB9CAT

P.S.: all firmware revisions are the latest
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[Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread Dauer, Edward
The ARRL premium is relatively steep.  But that's probably because it has a $50 
deductible and, according to some of the experiences posted on this thread, 
covers losses that may not qualify as covered occurrences under some 
homeowners' policies.  I just checked my own scheduled personal property 
endorsement.  The cost is on average $0.53 per hundred per year, way less than 
half of the ARRL premium, varying with the type of property insured.  And 
because it's an endorsement to a combined home and auto policy, it will cover 
losses no matter where they happen.   But the deductible is $500 per occurrence 
and I can't say that the endorsement would cover losses attributable to 
operator errors (e.g. frying a rig with a reversed polarity power connection.)  
 Since classically insurance is a way of covering large losses rather than 
small ones, for me the difference in deductible isn't worth a double or triple 
premium; but that's an individual preference.

Ted, KN1CBR

Edward A. Dauer
Dean Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Law
University of Denver



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All I found was the rates, $1.40 per $100. Seems a tad steep to me.

73, Dick, W1KSZ



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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Having had a recent loss of radio equipment along with other items, I 
would comment,  the insurance company strongly and aggressively pushed 
for a settlement under the loss definition of power surge.   In this 
case they would only pay depreciated value for the equipment less the 
deductible  which was $1000.


While my loss was clearly due to a lightning strike, and I had service 
reports from 3 different servicing companies all stating lightning 
damage as the cause of loss or damage.   In this case the insurance 
company is required to pay replacement cost, less the deductible.


The insurance company kept trying to change the description of loss from 
lightning damage to power surge to lessen their liability.I held 
my ground, provided them multiple times the copies of service reports 
stating in all cases lightning damage. Final settlement was a bit over 
$12,000.


Yes equipment insurance is most valuable and worthwhile in all aspects.  
It is also very important to have available a list of model numbers, 
serial numbers, date of acquisition and price paid. Without this the 
insurance company will challenge ever item and every number.  Our job is 
to prove it while there job is to deny it.  My EXCEL spreadsheet 
proved to be most valuable along with digital photographs.


73 Bob, K4TAX


On 8/8/2015 2:00 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:

The ARRL premium is relatively steep.  But that's probably because it has a $50 deductible and, 
according to some of the experiences posted on this thread, covers losses that may not qualify as 
covered occurrences under some homeowners' policies.  I just checked my own 
scheduled personal property endorsement.  The cost is on average $0.53 per hundred per 
year, way less than half of the ARRL premium, varying with the type of property insured.  And 
because it's an endorsement to a combined home and auto policy, it will cover losses no matter 
where they happen.   But the deductible is $500 per occurrence and I can't say that the endorsement 
would cover losses attributable to operator errors (e.g. frying a rig with a reversed polarity 
power connection.)   Since classically insurance is a way of covering large losses rather than 
small ones, for me the difference in deductible isn't worth a double or triple premium; but that's 
an individual preference.

Ted, KN1CBR

Edward A. Dauer
Dean Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Law
University of Denver



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All I found was the rates, $1.40 per $100. Seems a tad steep to me.

73, Dick, W1KSZ



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Lyle Johnson
We save the configuration file at the factory.  We recommend that you 
save the configuration file using K3 Utility upon receipt of the radio, 
and after installing options, loading memories, etc..


With that saved, if you have to do a master reset you do an EEINIT and 
then load your saved configuration.


73,

Lyle KK7P


In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive,  I've read 
the manual several times.   These discussions then raise the question, 
is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to factory default 
values?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Master Reset

2015-08-08 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bob,

It is in the manual - Parameter Initialization.  That is often 
referred to as EE INIT.
It is not recommended unless you have access to a configuration file 
that was saved when the K3 (K3S) was operating normally - EE INIT sets 
all configuration and menu settings to default, and at least the 
configuration items need to be re-entered.


When you get your new K3S, one of the first things to do is to Save the 
Configuration - that can be easily and quickly accomplished using K3 
Utility.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/8/2015 2:54 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive,  I've read 
the manual several times.   These discussions then raise the question, 
is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to factory default 
values?   I may have overlooked this.   However the product not having 
a Master Reset I view is a major shortcoming of the product.


If its there, I'd specifically like to know more.



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Re: [Elecraft] Prolific driver windows 10

2015-08-08 Thread Matthew Pitts via Elecraft
Joe,
Quite likely true, but you can still use the older drivers that support the 
counterfeit chips on Windows 10; Apple has apparently locked out that option 
with the newest version of Mac OS X from what I have been reading elsewhere.
Matthew PittsN8OHU


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 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Prolific driver windows 10
   


 I want to know if there is a new prolific driver.

If you have a legitimate Prolific device, check Windows Update.

First thing to do is open Windows Device Manager, identify the
USB to serial adapter, open the detail of that device, uninstall
the device/driver, disconnect the device, perform a cold boot
(In Windows 10, Right-click Power and select Restart) then
reconnect the device and allow Windows Update to load the newest
driver.

If Windows Update fails to find/load a driver, your device is not
using genuine Prolific hardware.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


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 I installed Windows 10 and now it does not recognize the K3 by the CAT.
 I want to know if there is a new prolific driver.  Thanks 73'


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Scott Manthe
Having read several of your posts, I find it unfortunate for you that 
you don't even have your K3S yet and you seem to have identified several 
major shortcomings. Fortunately, I'm sure there will be hundreds of 
opportunities to sell it should you find it is not up to your standards.


The master reset feature is on page 72 of the manual. Elecraft calls 
it parameter initialization.


I sincerely hope you find the K3S more acceptable after you receive it 
than you have while you've waited.


73,
Scott N9AA


On 8/8/15 2:54 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive,  I've read 
the manual several times.   These discussions then raise the question, 
is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to factory default 
values?   I may have overlooked this.   However the product not having 
a Master Reset I view is a major shortcoming of the product.


If its there, I'd specifically like to know more.

73 Bob, K4TAX



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Thanks Lyle.   I do have the K3Utility on the computer and will do just 
that..first thing.


As I stated to another person letting me know of the procedure as listed 
in the manual,  coming from other brands of radios that do offer a 
Master Reset I am finding the nomenclature and language, if you will, 
of the K3S is quite different.


73 Bob, K4TAX


On 8/8/2015 2:23 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:
We save the configuration file at the factory.  We recommend that you 
save the configuration file using K3 Utility upon receipt of the 
radio, and after installing options, loading memories, etc..


With that saved, if you have to do a master reset you do an EEINIT 
and then load your saved configuration.


73,

Lyle KK7P


In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive,  I've read 
the manual several times.   These discussions then raise the 
question, is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to 
factory default values?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Marco HB9CAT
Thanks Lyle, 
I tried the beta and it addresses exactly the issue I experienced; tried it 
out, works fine :-)

For reference in case others experienced the same:
* PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED:  PC applications can activate PTT and 
KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of 
the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the 
transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if 
the USB cable is not connected. There is now a Safe mode (the default) which 
disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a 
read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select USB SAFE or UNSAFE. Exit the menu and 
turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send 
commands may require UNSAFE mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be 
avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S.

Marco HB9CAT

-Original Message-
From: Lyle Johnson [mailto:kk7p4...@gmail.com] 
Sent: sabato, 8. agosto 2015 20:27
To: hb9...@thezollingers.org; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

This problem is fixed in the latest beta firmware for the K3/K3S. Until then, 
it is best to set PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF before taking the K3/K3S to a location 
without USB connectivity.

73,

Lyle KK7P

On 8/8/15 10:31 AM, Marco HB9CAT wrote:
 I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”) and 
 configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m using 
 is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything worked 
 fine.

 Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve just 
 connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it went to 
 TX, USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as high so 
 it keyed CW.
 I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY 
 menu: there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual I 
 got to the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the other 
 menus.

 The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB drivers 
 and set RTS low.

 Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of safe 
 mode allowing me to change configuration ?

 Thanks

 Marco HB9CAT

 P.S.: all firmware revisions are the latest 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Marco HB9CAT
Thanks Lyle,

I tried the beta and it addresses exactly the issue I experienced; tried it
out, works fine :-)

 

For reference in case others experienced the same:

* PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED:  PC applications can activate PTT
and KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial
setup of the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous
activation of the transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on
after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is now a Safe
mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a
command via USB, such as a read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe
mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select USB SAFE or
UNSAFE. Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use
PTT-KEY via USB but never send commands may require UNSAFE mode. In this
case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S.

 

Marco HB9CAT

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity modes

2015-08-08 Thread Fred Jensen

On 8/8/2015 6:23 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:


The other interesting diversity mode I know of is the way the costal
commercial communication radio stations worked in the 1930's and later.
They were using CW to send messages across the oceans. Each station
transmitted on 3 separate bands. The receivers listened to all 3 bands
and routed the best signal to the operator. (I don't know how they
determined the best signal using 1930s technology.) Obviously a two
channel version could be assembled using a K3 with a sub-receiver.


Well, at least in 56-57, it wasn't exactly diversity [I worked at a 
coastal marine station for 11 months during that period when I was a HS 
senior].  Coast stations [three letter calls] were assigned specific 
ITU-defined channels [freqs] in each of the maritime bands, both MF and 
HF.  Everyone could use 500 Kcs.


A coast station would transmit its wheel on all of its assigned HF 
frequencies, except those for which there was no propagation, such as 22 
Mcs at night.  The wheel might have comprised:


VVV VVV VVV DE KOK KOK KOK QTC list of ships for which KOK was holding 
traffic QSX list of MF/HF maritime bands on which KOK was standing 
watch for calls AR.


The QSX was followed by the band designators only, such as 4 6 8 12, 
the ship operator had a printed directory of the assigned frequencies in 
each band.  HF channels were full-duplex, coast station on its assigned 
frequency, ship on the second frequency in that band paired with the 
coast station.


When the operator afloat opened his watch, he would start the log and 
listen for his company's station wheel.  If his call was in the list, he 
called the station, the traffic was passed, his call was removed from 
the wheel [usually paper tape] and the wheel continued.  In most [but 
not all] cases, the operators on the ships worked for the same companies 
that owned the various coast stations.


So, while multiple frequencies were involved in this process, the ship 
was almost always on only one, so it wasn't really diversity reception 
in the technical sense.  500 Kc [600 meters, the Holy Frequency] was a 
huge, simplex, world-wide party-line.


A system where you can automatically determine which receiver has the
better signal, could be useful for RTTY. Measuring the difference in
signal strength of the mark and space signals compared with the signal
strength half way between them might be a useful technique.


In the mid-60's [while in the US military in SE Asia], we used real 
diversity on multi-channel troposcatter systems.  The AN/MRC-98 was an 
example.  In the 450-550 MHz range, 2-10 KW transmitters to two 9.1 
meter dishes, each with two cross-polarized feed horns.  4 receivers, 2 
each on each of the two frequencies with phase locked local oscillators 
for pair.  60 good quality telephone channels over 400-500 km paths. 
Modulation was FM, the combiner watched the SNR from each RX [which 
varied all over the place], and added the basebands together using all 
analog circuitry for best output SNR.  The two PA's were Eimac 
klystrons, about 1.6 meters long.  Space, polarization, and frequency 
diversity.


It was somewhat mesmerizing to sit in in front of the receiver bank and 
watch the SNR on the single receivers fluctuating wildly while the SNR 
on the baseband would drift very slowly up and down in very small 
increments.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT

2015-08-08 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Part of the short comings is largely from the fact I have used radios 
from the major 4 companies for many years having been licensed for over 
50 years.  Each brand and model has or have their own uniqueness.   I 
don't want to come across in any form as negative or critical of the 
Elecraft product.  After all, I've spent nearly $4K for a new radio.  I 
view this as a wee bit more than lunch money, although if I wanted or 
needed other options or configurations, I would have acquired such.


And yes, if I should find issues, be assured they will be investigated 
and documented and reported accordingly. Professionally, that's what 
I've done in years past with regard to software and firmware based 
systems.  At the same time, I'm not interested in nit picking the 
product.  I will take it for what it is and not what I'd like it to be.  
There is a significance difference.


One of my favorite sayings:  when one points the finger at someone or 
something, they best look down for there's three fingers pointing back 
at the more likely cause.I'll accept that on face value.


73 Bob, K4TAX

On 8/8/2015 2:32 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
Having read several of your posts, I find it unfortunate for you that 
you don't even have your K3S yet and you seem to have identified 
several major shortcomings. Fortunately, I'm sure there will be 
hundreds of opportunities to sell it should you find it is not up to 
your standards.


The master reset feature is on page 72 of the manual. Elecraft calls 
it parameter initialization.


I sincerely hope you find the K3S more acceptable after you receive it 
than you have while you've waited.


73,
Scott N9AA


On 8/8/15 2:54 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive,  I've read 
the manual several times.   These discussions then raise the 
question, is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to 
factory default values?   I may have overlooked this.   However the 
product not having a Master Reset I view is a major shortcoming of 
the product.


If its there, I'd specifically like to know more.

73 Bob, K4TAX



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[Elecraft] digital modes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Rattray
Can anyone point me to information telling me how to hook my K2 up for
digital modes please?  I am interested in RTTY and PSK31 mainly.  I have the
SSB module in my K2.  Thank you very much.  73 Bruce ve5rc

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Re: [Elecraft] HRD and K3

2015-08-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


On 8/8/2015 2:31 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:

In addition to Joe's excellent advice, you may need to set the Tx output
level for the soundcard in DM780 to a higher-than-default level.  In the
DM780 version I have on my computer, I have the Transmit Level sliders
for Master and Wave both set to about 70.


Not yo pick on Lyle ... only to piggyback on the thread ... given some
of the gross misinformation about sound cards and Windows around these
days, when you set up your sound card, right click on the microphone
and/or Speaker sliders in the Windows Sound control panel and select
dB for the scale.  Once you do that, the best starting points are
0.0 dB for *inputs* (mic and/or line) and -3.0 dB for *outputs*
(speaker or headphones).  Those levels reflect the driver settings and
tend to be independent of sound card brand.

At 0.0 dB for the input, the sound card is not providing further gain
for the input signal which minimizes the chances of overflowing the
ADC input.  Similarly, most sound cards are much cleaner at 3 dB or
more below maximum output (that's typically 80 to 83 percent).  If
the rig has sufficient gain, I tend to prefer -6.- dB (67%) since some
of the inexpensive USB powered sound cards lack proper regulation and
bypassing which makes them very dirty at maximum levels.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV





With that, my K3 (S) LINE (IN) gain is set to 23 for 4-5 bars of ALC
using PSK31.

YMMV,
73,

Lyle KK7P

On 8/8/15 6:36 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 Any other ideas??

Are you using MODE=DATA and data sub-mode=DATA_A?

 MIC SEL was set to Line In I changed it to FP

 MIC+LIN was set to NA and I set it ON and the MIC level is set to 60.

Set MIC+LIN back to OFF, set Mic SEL back to Line In, place DM780 in
PSK31 transmit and adjust the Mic Gain (actually Line Gain in DATA_A)
for four bars of ALC with the fifth just flickering then adjust PWR Out
for no more than 50W.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

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Re: [Elecraft] digital modes

2015-08-08 Thread hsherriff


Bruce,Check out K2 and PSK31 QA and PSK31 with the K2 here:
www.elecraft.com/Apps/application_notes.htm#PSK31
Top left of page
HTHHarlan NC3C 

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From: Bruce Rattray ratt...@accesscomm.ca 
Date: 08/08/2015  3:57 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] digital modes 

Can anyone point me to information telling me how to hook my K2 up for
digital modes please?  I am interested in RTTY and PSK31 mainly.  I have the
SSB module in my K2.  Thank you very much.  73 Bruce ve5rc

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Re: [Elecraft] HRD and K3

2015-08-08 Thread Larry Snyder
Thank you for your reply Matt.

I changed the MIC to the back mono mic input and the HRD works fine.

Now getting back to the Line In

On the radio in the middle of the right side of the display I see TX DATA

I set the DATA mode to DATA A

I transmit and adjusted the MIC GAIN and see the DATA level increase on the
LCD

And bingo, it works just fine.

Thank you so very much!!

Sincerely

Larry

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HRD and K3

snip

The K3 goes into transmit but there is no power coming out of the radio.

Problem areas to look for -

1. The K3 mode should be TX DATA (seen on the graphic), and its data mode
should be DATA A.  DATA A is used to interface external sound to the K3
through line in and out jacks.

2. Line in and out need to go to the sound unit you intend to use on the PC.
MIC SEL at the K3 should be set to Line In.

3. HRD needs to be configured to use the sound unit above.

Once you've juggled these around to get *some power* out of the K3 on TX,
then you should set the K3's LIne In gain (via the MIC control while in TX
to a reasonable level).  For the K3, use the ALC metering to set 4-5 bars of
ALC indicated.  This is the correct drive level to use.

You may need to adjust both the K3's Line In gain AND the sound unit's
Playback level to get a happy medium.  Once you've got it, write it down in
case something gets moved around.

73,
matt
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[Elecraft] TXMonitor

2015-08-08 Thread hsherriff



Ok. Got mine in the mail and able to work with it today. Downloaded and 
installed P3 firmware... no problem. Connected HF sensor...FBConnected UHF/VHF 
sensor. Bad news. The P3 display looks like the rig transmit is cyclic at about 
1 sec intervals.  Screen goes front normal receive to modulation and back every 
second or so. Shut off mod indication and power indication cycles blank 
(receive mode) to 0.0 watts. Bad sensor or improper setup?
Harlan NC3C 

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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Rx Filters

2015-08-08 Thread Edward R Cole

Lane,

For my needs I only installed just the 2.8-KHz filter in my KRX3 in 
FL2 position to match the 2.8-KHz filter in the main-Rx.  Since 
bandwidth is set by the DSP and I do very little HF CW, so this is 
sufficient for my use of diversity mode.


I have the 13-KHz in FL1 (for FM/AM), 2.8-KHz in FL2 (for CW/SSB), 
and 400-Hz in FL4 (for CW) installed in the main-Rx.


I left FL3 position open in both Rx because I chose that when running 
diversity reception on digital modes (DATA A, USB) where signals are 
output on the 1st IF connectors and bypasses the roofing filters (and 
2nd-IF/DSP).  I found that having FL2 selected when I run everything 
thru my LP-Pan caused a signal suck-out near zero frequency, and 
was cured by selecting an open filter position.  MAP65 uses the 
LP-Pan, whereas WSJT10/JT65 uses the normal LINE-OUT from the DSP 
section.  I would not worry about any of this for your application.


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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Rx Filters

2015-08-08 Thread Edward R Cole

Rich,

I guess I can understand why you would think this (excerp below), but 
diversity is as useful for digital as voice/CW.  The difference it 
you don't copy digital with your ears - you see it on your monitor.


Probably most digital sw do not implement diversity reception but a 
couple do:  MAP65 implements dual-polarity reception using diversity 
mode and very effectively resolves the correct polarity of the 
received signal while peaking the signal to match (one other program 
called Linrad can do this).


Benefit of diversity reception is not limited to one 
bandwidth.  MAP65 uses 90-KHz!  Digital modes can do this because the 
entire RF spectrum (limited by the roofing filter) is digitized by 
the DSP in a SDR.  DSP then applies digital bandwidth filters to 
separate signals.  In fact that is how the K3 and K3S do it.  But 
then later processing demodulates the mode desired (CW, SSB, AM, FM, 
DATA).  I don't think K3 firmware has implemented diversity Rx for 
digital modes, but it could be done (if wanted). More likely it would 
be accomplished by special sw in an external computer.


73, Ed - KL7UW

From: Richard Ferch ve3...@storm.ca
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Rx Filters

snip
Diversity mode is very useful in CW. It is not useful in digital modes
(unless someone can write software to emulate what the human brain does
with the inputs from two ears). I don't know how useful it would turn
out to be in wider bandwidth modes like SSB, AM and FM - never tried.
snip
73,
Rich VE3KI




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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread KM4VX
My experience with Ham insurance is that your Homeowners policy will cover
you for all damages to your equipment provided the incident occurs when
operating from home.  I collected $8,000.00 on a lightning strike several
years ago, all on my homeowners policy and the claim was settled quickly and
painlessly by USAA. I looked at the ARRL insurance policy and rates, and
thought the rates absurd and the coverage no better for someone who does not
operate mobile or portable than Homeowners.  Most Hams should be comfortable
with their Homeowners coverage, and there is no additional charge for ham
equipment. I would not waste money on an expensive ARRL ham insurance
policy; so much for non-profits by the way. 



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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread KM4VX
My experience with Ham insurance is that your Homeowners policy will cover
you for all damages to your equipment provided the incident occurs when
operating from home.  I collected $8,000.00 on a lightning strike several
years ago, all on my homeowners policy and the claim was settled quickly and
painlessly by USAA. I looked at the ARRL insurance policy and rates, and
thought the rates absurd and the coverage no better for someone who does not
operate mobile or portable than Homeowners.  Most Hams should be comfortable
with their Homeowners coverage, and there is no additional charge for ham
equipment. I would not waste money on an expensive ARRL ham insurance
policy; so much for non-profits by the way. 



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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread Steven Stuckey
My homeowners insurance stated The ARRL insurance is a really good deal.
If you have a claim on your ham radio equipment it would be against your
policy and rates may be affected. While the ARRL insurance would not be
affected by more than one claim. We strongly suggest you buy the ARRL
insurance. Which I have done. Did you know the ARRL insurance (last
checked 2014 before the new company took over) will cover everything and
anything related to ham radio? You can insure coax, antennas, towers,
connectors, rigs, computers, all accessories even concrete, radials and
grounding. So if you want to insure the whole thing you can. If you get hit
by lightening and it ruins your tower, antenna, concrete, grounding, rig,
computer and anything else you only pay $50 per incident of not repairable.
Even if it was $50 per item that is still a large savings. I believe it is
well worth it. My 2 cents worth.
​73​

Steven Stuckey - AC9GK - Indiana
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Re: [Elecraft] Keyboard Issue - I wonder how many folks have had buyers

2015-08-08 Thread Jerry Moore
Paul, 
  Will this be fixed so that operators can run full resolution with an
external monitor while running high speed CW via a keyboard connected to the
P3 and not be affected?
Can it be fixed with firmware or will it require different hardware?

I'm close to ordering my rig and don't want to be bitten by this.

Thanks in advance.
Jerry Moore / AE4PB

-Original Message-
From: Marc Veeneman [mailto:mhv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 9:33 PM
To: Paul Saffren
Cc: Jerry Moore; elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: Keyboard Issue - [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had
buyers

Hah!  That did it, Paul.  Now I'm not suffering character loss, even the
double l in hello gets sent every time I've tried it.  The quick brown fox
is happy, too.

Oddly, in the several times I've typed the typical quick brown fox, I
haven't seen the data delay either.

What a difference!

It seems that you have revealed a way to avoid the data loss problem.  Thank
you very much. For the first time I feel confident enough to use the
K3/P3/SVGA keyboard in live CW QSOs.
- 
Marc   W8SDG

 On Aug 7, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Paul Saffren pa...@elecraft.com wrote:
 
 Marc,
 
 Plug your video monitor into the P3 and change the resolution setting
(SVGA res) to 1024x768 .  My guess that will help.   At 1920x1024 the SVGA
runs a little slower (more pixels to compute). Since you are not using the
monitor, there is no reason to have it at the highest resolution.
 
 -Paul
 
 Paul Saffren - N6HZ
 Project Manager
 Elecraft Inc.
 831-763-4211 x122
 www.elecraft.com
 
 On 8/7/2015 2:09 PM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
 On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:18 PM, Paul Saffren pa...@elecraft.com wrote:
 
 Hi Marc,
 
 I was reading Jer's recent post, Executive Summary,   If you have that
monitor connected to the P3/SVGA, press Ctrl-Alt-S on the keyboard and tell
me what the TRANSMIT MODE is set to.
 VOX
 
 
 Also list what the Transmit Timeout is.
 3000
 
 
 Next, on the P3, enter the SVGA menu, scroll to SVGA res, and tell me
what the resolution is set to for the SVGA monitor.
 1920 x 1080
 
 Finally, in Jer's post it says you are sending at 60 WPM CW, but the K3
only goes to 50 WPM.   What is the K3 software version?
 05.29
 
 -
 Marc
 
 
 -Paul
 
 Paul Saffren - N6HZ
 Project Manager
 Elecraft Inc.
 831-763-4211 x122
 www.elecraft.com
 
 On 8/6/2015 6:48 PM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
 That's a relief.  C is good.
 
 Now I feel more comfortable, Paul.  And I have some insight into your
life, too.  :-)
 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Rx Filters

2015-08-08 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
I suspect Joe, like me will not part with his 200Hz filters, so he
used the one(s) in his old K3 ;-)



On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 12:46:46 -0500, you wrote:

Joe - How did you get the 200Hz filters for the K3S? I didn't see those as
options anymore, but wished they were.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 When I assembled my K3, I ordered the filters as FM, 2.7, 1.8, 400,
 and had the last slot open. For the K3S, I have (1) FM, (2) 2.8, and
 (2) 400’s. So I have the following questions.

 
  How will the filters be installed as a factory build?

 My guess is that the filters would be installed in the first two or
 three slots as they were in my original factory built K3.

  If I have a say so, would it make sense to install it as such
  (O = open)
  Slot  1 2  3   4   5
  Main FM2.8 O  400  O
  Sub   O2.8 O  400  O

 That is the way mine are done - the Sub RX has a second FM filter
 (I wanted the ability to use wide audio for SWLing with an Aux
 antenna) and the main TX has a 1500 Hz filter in slot 3 which I
 do not use and the 200 Hz filter in slot 5.

 If I were to do it again, there would be no changes except to replace
 the 1500 Hz filter with a 1800 or possibly a 2100 (that is my typical
 SSB bandwidth).  The FM filter it just fine for AM - both TX and RX.

 73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



 On 8/8/2015 12:59 AM, Lane wrote:

 Hi,

 I have a K3 w/o a sub-receiver and continue to enjoy learning about the
 hobby, and because of that, I’d like to start learning about all the
 things
 I can do w/ a sub-receiver. So I’ve ordered the new K3S-F. Seeing as I
 have
 several weeks to rethink my order before it ships, I’d like to better
 understand the sub and filters. I also hear the sub is a pain to remove
 and
 wanted to get my filters right initially if possible.

 When I assembled my K3, I ordered the filters as FM, 2.7, 1.8, 400, and
 had
 the last slot open. For the K3S, I have (1) FM, (2) 2.8, and (2) 400’s. So
 I have the following questions.

 How will the filters be installed as a factory build?

 If I have a say so, would it make sense to install it as such (O = open)
 Slot  1   2   3   4   5
 MainFM   2.8 O  400O
 Sub   O2.8 O  400O

 By doing that, I leave the last slot open for 200Hz filters if they come
 back, and slot 3 for something between 2.1 and above 400 if I can find a
 good reason to fill them.

 My understanding of diversity reception is that I can receive two
 different
 frequencies and though used more for CW when working pile-ups, it’s not
 something I’d likely use for FM, hence the single FM roofing filter. So I
 was wondering about installing AM on the sub just so that I could have
 that
 as well.

 I'd be interested in knowing how you guys did it.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Rx Filters

2015-08-08 Thread Jerry Moore
Yes, do tell,  I want one in the future. 

On August 8, 2015 1:46:46 PM EDT, Lane 
software.research.developm...@gmail.com wrote:
Joe - How did you get the 200Hz filters for the K3S? I didn't see those
as
options anymore, but wished they were.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
wrote:


 When I assembled my K3, I ordered the filters as FM, 2.7, 1.8, 400,
 and had the last slot open. For the K3S, I have (1) FM, (2) 2.8, and
 (2) 400’s. So I have the following questions.

 
  How will the filters be installed as a factory build?

 My guess is that the filters would be installed in the first two or
 three slots as they were in my original factory built K3.

  If I have a say so, would it make sense to install it as such
  (O = open)
  Slot  1 2  3   4   5
  Main FM2.8 O  400  O
  Sub   O2.8 O  400  O

 That is the way mine are done - the Sub RX has a second FM filter
 (I wanted the ability to use wide audio for SWLing with an Aux
 antenna) and the main TX has a 1500 Hz filter in slot 3 which I
 do not use and the 200 Hz filter in slot 5.

 If I were to do it again, there would be no changes except to replace
 the 1500 Hz filter with a 1800 or possibly a 2100 (that is my typical
 SSB bandwidth).  The FM filter it just fine for AM - both TX and RX.

 73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



 On 8/8/2015 12:59 AM, Lane wrote:

 Hi,

 I have a K3 w/o a sub-receiver and continue to enjoy learning about
the
 hobby, and because of that, I’d like to start learning about all the
 things
 I can do w/ a sub-receiver. So I’ve ordered the new K3S-F. Seeing as
I
 have
 several weeks to rethink my order before it ships, I’d like to
better
 understand the sub and filters. I also hear the sub is a pain to
remove
 and
 wanted to get my filters right initially if possible.

 When I assembled my K3, I ordered the filters as FM, 2.7, 1.8, 400,
and
 had
 the last slot open. For the K3S, I have (1) FM, (2) 2.8, and (2)
400’s. So
 I have the following questions.

 How will the filters be installed as a factory build?

 If I have a say so, would it make sense to install it as such (O =
open)
 Slot  1   2   3   4   5
 MainFM   2.8 O  400O
 Sub   O2.8 O  400O

 By doing that, I leave the last slot open for 200Hz filters if they
come
 back, and slot 3 for something between 2.1 and above 400 if I can
find a
 good reason to fill them.

 My understanding of diversity reception is that I can receive two
 different
 frequencies and though used more for CW when working pile-ups, it’s
not
 something I’d likely use for FM, hence the single FM roofing filter.
So I
 was wondering about installing AM on the sub just so that I could
have
 that
 as well.

 I'd be interested in knowing how you guys did it.

 Thanks,
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[Elecraft] West Mountain Radio CLRspkr

2015-08-08 Thread Steven Bertsch
I use a West Mountain Radio CLRspkr with my K3. A friend is giving me his 
CLRspkr. Using a stereo Y-adapter, could I use both, one for the main receiver 
and one for the sub receiver? I know to set the CONFIG-SPKRS to 2.

Steve K6SAB

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[Elecraft] K3S Line out

2015-08-08 Thread Mark
Stumped for now - I'm not getting stereo out of the line out jack.  Using 
know good cables, only one channel has audio.  Anything special in the trs 
wiring for this?


Mark, ab7mp 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

2015-08-08 Thread Mark

No sub installed.

m

-Original Message- 
From: Mark 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:26 PM 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Line out 

Stumped for now - I'm not getting stereo out of the line out jack.  Using 
know good cables, only one channel has audio.  Anything special in the trs 
wiring for this?


Mark, ab7mp 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

2015-08-08 Thread Lyle Johnson
Normally, line out has a fixed gain (settable in a menu) with the left 
channel as the main receiver and right as the sub-receiver.


An alternative is to set it to reflect the phones jack.  You'll get both 
channels, but the gain will vary with the AF gain control.


See the K3/K3S manual for details.

73,

Lyle KK7P



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Re: [Elecraft] West Mountain Radio CLRspkr

2015-08-08 Thread WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft
Yes! Send one receiver to one speaker and one to the other.  Check to see which 
ear hears which speaker.  Same with headsets, but you get more separation.  You 
can use it for split or for diversity. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke,TDXS Contest 
Chairman K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS
  From: Steven Bertsch sabert...@gmail.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:15 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] West Mountain Radio CLRspkr
   
I use a West Mountain Radio CLRspkr with my K3. A friend is giving me his 
CLRspkr. Using a stereo Y-adapter, could I use both, one for the main receiver 
and one for the sub receiver? I know to set the CONFIG-SPKRS to 2.

Steve K6SAB



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

2015-08-08 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi Mark,
You might have to set SPKRS 2.
I don't know if the LINE OUT acts the same as the Headphones, but if SPRKS=1 
and SPKR+PH is Yes, you get main audio in the left ear only.  Setting SPKRS 2 
should clear that up.
Cheers and 73,
Fred KE7X

Author of:
The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed
The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit
The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station
Printed, coil bound copies of these are all available at www.elecraft.com
KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide

KAT500 and KXPA500 Tuner Operation
http://www.ke7x.com/home/kat500-and-kxpa100-tuners

The Elecraft KXPA100, PX3 and 2M/4M Transverters - Assembling the KX3-Line 
Station available at www.lulu.com.

The Elecraft K3S and P3  and a 3rd Edition of the K3 book with K3S upgrade 
parts are works in progress.


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 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
 Mark
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:39 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out
 
 No sub installed.
 
 m
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:26 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Line out
 
 Stumped for now - I'm not getting stereo out of the line out jack.
 Using know good cables, only one channel has audio.  Anything special
 in the trs wiring for this?
 
 Mark, ab7mp
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

2015-08-08 Thread Mark

Thanks, Lyle and Hank.

Sounds like no fixed level for two channels with only one receiver (no sub 
here) - the term stereo threw me (can't think of a better word so no real 
complaint here)
When the book said Normally I thought it could be configured for a single 
receiver config to feed both channels (in a not Normal setup).  At least, I 
know it's working as designed.


Just finished the build yesterday and wanting to make sure everything is 
working.


(FWIW - hearing more stations than I did on the old, aging, noisy, Yaseu. 
Love what it's done for me so far!)


Tnx

Mark, ab7mp

-Original Message- 
From: Lyle Johnson

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:46 PM
To: Mark ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

Normally, line out has a fixed gain (settable in a menu) with the left
channel as the main receiver and right as the sub-receiver.

An alternative is to set it to reflect the phones jack.  You'll get both
channels, but the gain will vary with the AF gain control.

See the K3/K3S manual for details.

73,

Lyle KK7P



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

2015-08-08 Thread Mark

Already set for SPKRS 2 (love that feature!)

Tnx

m

-Original Message- 
From: Cady, Fred

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:01 PM
To: Mark ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

Hi Mark,
You might have to set SPKRS 2.
I don't know if the LINE OUT acts the same as the Headphones, but if SPRKS=1 
and SPKR+PH is Yes, you get main audio in the left ear only.  Setting SPKRS 
2 should clear that up.

Cheers and 73,
Fred KE7X

Author of:
The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed
The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit
The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station
Printed, coil bound copies of these are all available at www.elecraft.com
KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide

KAT500 and KXPA500 Tuner Operation
http://www.ke7x.com/home/kat500-and-kxpa100-tuners

The Elecraft KXPA100, PX3 and 2M/4M Transverters - Assembling the KX3-Line 
Station available at www.lulu.com.


The Elecraft K3S and P3  and a 3rd Edition of the K3 book with K3S upgrade 
parts are works in progress.




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Mark
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:39 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

No sub installed.

m

-Original Message-
From: Mark
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:26 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

Stumped for now - I'm not getting stereo out of the line out jack.
Using know good cables, only one channel has audio.  Anything special
in the trs wiring for this?

Mark, ab7mp

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

2015-08-08 Thread Mark
Just finished the build and haven't configured for the USB codec yet - 
starting with the familiar methods 1st then transitioning to the more 
advanced in an attempt to get on the air with the new rig as quickly as 
possible.  Had plans on going USB and comparing that to analog - just wanted 
to see both bar graphs jumping!


Probably will start working on the USB option tonight or tomorrow.

Tnx

Mark, ab7mp

-Original Message- 
From: Nr4c

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:40 PM
To: Mark
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line out

Do you have the KRX3 Sub receiver installed?

There isn't much on the other channel unless you do.

And why would you use this instead of the USB audio CODEC?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Aug 8, 2015, at 6:26 PM, Mark ab...@arrl.net wrote:

Stumped for now - I'm not getting stereo out of the line out jack.  Using 
know good cables, only one channel has audio.  Anything special in the trs 
wiring for this?


Mark, ab7mp
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[Elecraft] Looking for a K1 w/80 15 meters

2015-08-08 Thread Doug Hensley
I'm looking for a nice K1 set up for 80  15 meters, preferably with the KAT-1 
antenna tuner and hopefully post-2010.  
Thanks,
Doug W5JV



 

  
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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread Jim Lowman

You make a good point, about homeowners' insurance.

A couple of years ago, we had a hot water leak in the wall between the 
kitchen and the bathroom.


Our homeowners' insurance covered not only a complete kitchen and 
bathroom remodel, but also the hotel room and meals when we were 
displaced from the house.
It cost the company in the realm of $35,000, and I didn't notice the 
rate increasing the following year.
If it did, it was probably a small increase due to the increased value 
of the house and property.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 8/8/2015 2:43 PM, Steven Stuckey wrote:

My homeowners insurance stated The ARRL insurance is a really good deal.
If you have a claim on your ham radio equipment it would be against your
policy and rates may be affected. While the ARRL insurance would not be
affected by more than one claim. We strongly suggest you buy the ARRL
insurance. Which I have done. Did you know the ARRL insurance (last
checked 2014 before the new company took over) will cover everything and
anything related to ham radio? You can insure coax, antennas, towers,
connectors, rigs, computers, all accessories even concrete, radials and
grounding. So if you want to insure the whole thing you can. If you get hit
by lightening and it ruins your tower, antenna, concrete, grounding, rig,
computer and anything else you only pay $50 per incident of not repairable.
Even if it was $50 per item that is still a large savings. I believe it is
well worth it. My 2 cents worth.
​73​

Steven Stuckey - AC9GK - Indiana



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[Elecraft] P3 with TX Monitor up and running

2015-08-08 Thread Jobst Vandrey
Installed the TX monitor as I was building the new P3 adapter.  Easy as
others have indicted.  After loading all the firmware from the production
side of the Elecraft web site to test initial functionality, I loaded the
Beta code to enable the TX Monitor features.  Everything went well ...
having the real time SWR and power output in addition to the modulation
envelope is a very nice addition to the capabilities of the K Line.

Great Job Elecraft

73s

Jobst
AC0LP
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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread David Cole
I tend to agree with Steve here...  My insurance agent said almost the
same thing...  Don't call in your home owners unless you really need
too...

Also, given that I believe the ARRL insurance seems to cover stupidity,
(you spill water in your rig it pays off), the fee is not all that
bad.  

I had a rider on my home owners policy for a rather expensive telescope
I once owned a few decades ago, and the cost was about the same, it was
also a stupidity coverage type of policy.  So given that the policy just
pays off for almost anything, I would expect it to be higher than
normal.  I will be getting ARRL insurance for my rig.

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On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 17:43 -0400, Steven Stuckey wrote:
 My homeowners insurance stated The ARRL insurance is a really good deal.
 If you have a claim on your ham radio equipment it would be against your
 policy and rates may be affected. While the ARRL insurance would not be
 affected by more than one claim. We strongly suggest you buy the ARRL
 insurance. Which I have done. Did you know the ARRL insurance (last
 checked 2014 before the new company took over) will cover everything and
 anything related to ham radio? You can insure coax, antennas, towers,
 connectors, rigs, computers, all accessories even concrete, radials and
 grounding. So if you want to insure the whole thing you can. If you get hit
 by lightening and it ruins your tower, antenna, concrete, grounding, rig,
 computer and anything else you only pay $50 per incident of not repairable.
 Even if it was $50 per item that is still a large savings. I believe it is
 well worth it. My 2 cents worth.
 ​73​
 
 Steven Stuckey - AC9GK - Indiana
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 with TX Monitor up and running

2015-08-08 Thread Phil Hystad
I got my TX monitor but not installed yet.  However, I am surprised that 
Beta code is required as noted in the quoted message below.  I didn’t 
know this.  Beta required for a released product?

73, phil, K7PEH


 On Aug 8, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Jobst Vandrey jvand...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 ….some parts deleted…  
 
 After loading all the firmware from the production
 side of the Elecraft web site to test initial functionality, 
 Beta code to enable the TX Monitor features.verything went well
 …some parts deleted.
 Great Job Elecraft
 
 73s
 
 Jobst
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 with TX Monitor up and running

2015-08-08 Thread Jobst Vandrey
Phil

The current production release code for the P3 is over a year old - the
Txmonitor function hardware was introduced at Dayton this year and the
first units did not ship till about a week ago so the firmware has not yet
caught up to current.  I suspect that between Dayton and version 1.50 of
the Beta code last week, there were a number of changes made to improve the
code based on tester feedback.  Example - at Dayton, the FAQ indicated that
the monitor function would only work with the K3 but the latest FAQ says it
will work with an transceiver.

With my limited experience so far, the firmware does appear very stable
even if it is still classified officially as Beta. I will continue to use
the system and migrate to new versions of firmware as it becomes available
just as I have done with the K3.

Just my $0.02

73

Jobst
AC0LP

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:

 I got my TX monitor but not installed yet.  However, I am surprised that
 Beta code is required as noted in the quoted message below.  I didn’t
 know this.  Beta required for a released product?

 73, phil, K7PEH


  On Aug 8, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Jobst Vandrey jvand...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  ….some parts deleted…
 
  After loading all the firmware from the production
  side of the Elecraft web site to test initial functionality,
  Beta code to enable the TX Monitor features.verything went well
  …some parts deleted.
  Great Job Elecraft
 
  73s
 
  Jobst
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[Elecraft] KRX3 always uses antenna from main RX

2015-08-08 Thread Ignacy
I tried diversity today and something is wrong. KRX3 input (BNC) is not
working and KRX3 receives always receives signals from the main RX.

In KRX3 menu, Ant=bnc

Definitely the diversity was working a couple of month ago. I upgraded to
the newest beta, and no change.  

Any idea what might have happened?

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Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 always uses antenna from main RX

2015-08-08 Thread Ignacy
Please ignore. After a few turning of and on, reloading N1MM, etc., KRX3 is
working well again. Have no idea why BNC input was not working.
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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread Hank Garretson
My insurance agent said almost the same thing...


Of course an insurance agent would say that. It is to his advantage to have
clients who don't make claims.

73,

Hank, W6SX
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Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 always uses antenna from main RX

2015-08-08 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
N1MM has the capability to turn the KRX3 on and off depending on spots, and
can undo what you last did on the front panel. Doing a hold on RX ANT on
the front panel will toggle the KRX3 between MAIN and whatever is connected
to the AUX input. The latter could either be the BNC or the SO239 not in
use by the TX, depending on where the KRX3 aux input was connected at
assembly.

73, Guy K2AV

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 Please ignore. After a few turning of and on, reloading N1MM, etc., KRX3 is
 working well again. Have no idea why BNC input was not working.
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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread David Cole
I guess I am not quite as cynical as you.
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 My insurance agent said almost the same thing...
 
 
 Of course an insurance agent would say that. It is to his advantage to have
 clients who don't make claims.
 
 73,
 
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[Elecraft] NJQRP Skeeter Hunt is a go!

2015-08-08 Thread Larry Makoski
Thanks to all who signed up to be Skeeters in the 2015 NJQRP Skeeter Hunt. The 
roster is set and there are 166 of you who signed up for numbers. My deepest 
thanks to all of you. Remember, you do not have to have a Skeeter number to 
play, so if you didn't sign up for one, don't feel left out or neglected. All 
QRPers, whether they be SSB or CW operators are invited to join in on the fun. 
Anyone who needs a last minute refresher on the rules can find them at 
www.qsl.net/w2lj
Be safe, have a great time and enjoy yourself and the great outdoors.
Please remember, all Log Summaries (actual logs are NOT needed) are due to be 
mailed to w...@arrl.net no later than Midnight, Monday August 24th.
72 de Larry W2LJ - Skeeter #13
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Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 always uses antenna from main RX

2015-08-08 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ignacy,

Which TMP connector is plugged into your subRX AUX input.
Is it the BNC connector or the TMP cable from the KAT3?
If it is the BNC connector, then the BNC jack should work - that is the 
plugging used for the K3 (K3S) factory build units.
If however, you have the TMP cable from the KAT3 plugged in, the subRX 
will use the non-transmit SO-239 jack when the subRX is set to AUX input.


It makes no difference what the menu says, you must set the menu 
according to how the K3 is physically connected, so if you do not have 
the BNC connector plugged to the subRX AUX input, you will not have any 
input from the BNC connector.  The magic is all in the physical setup, 
and the menu must be set according to that.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/8/2015 10:03 PM, Ignacy wrote:

I tried diversity today and something is wrong. KRX3 input (BNC) is not
working and KRX3 receives always receives signals from the main RX.

In KRX3 menu, Ant=bnc

Definitely the diversity was working a couple of month ago. I upgraded to
the newest beta, and no change.




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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Let's let the insurance threads rest for noe as we've certainly exceeded the OT 
posting limit :-)

73,

Eric
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 G4GNX wrote:
 
 Although I'm in the UK and slightly different rules may apply
 [...]
 You really do need specialist insurance as most ordinary residential
 insurance companies just don't understand our special needs and will
 attempt to wriggle out of a payout on very flimsy grounds.
 
 There's a story about a UK ham who claimed on his homeowner's insurance
 for the loss of his amateur microwave equipment. They sent him a voucher
 for a kitchen appliances store.
 
 
 73 from Ian GM3SEK
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

2015-08-08 Thread dyarnes

Hi All,

Ted, KN1CBR, makes some very good points about the complexities of coverage. 
I don't know about the rest of you, but my head spins when I try to decipher 
what my homeowner's policy will cover vs. what it will not cover!  The lower 
deductible with ARRL insurance is definitely an attractive feature. 
However, you probably need to evaluate just what risks are really 
relevant, and compare that to the added cost.


Rightly or wrongly, I've always tended to view the ARRL insurance program as 
protection that is best suited against total loss, such as fire or theft, 
and then considered just how much risk I actually have of that occurring. 
Then you have to correlate that to whatever protection you might have from 
your own homeowner's policy.  Insuring simply against damage may, or may 
not, actually make a lot of sense since the repair bill might not actually 
exceed your deductible plus the premium payments you have made over time. 
It's a crap shoot!


Then you have to consider what all you are actually going to include in your 
coverage--you probably don't want to insure everything--just significant 
items.  In so doing, however, you now are paying a premium on multiple items 
while the risk of loss may well be only for one item (but you don't 
necessarily know which one!), and so you are paying not just $1.50/hundred, 
but a multiple of that--in effect!  Maybe that doesn't make a lot of sense, 
but it sort of does to me.  Stated differently, assume you are insuring five 
$1,000 items and paying a premium accordingly.  Are all 5 items equally at 
risk simultaneously?  Maybe yes, but probably not.  Still, you are paying a 
premium for 5 items when, at any point in time, maybe only one of those 
items may be truly at risk--whatever that might be.  This may seem like an 
over-complication, but I certainly think that is, at least in part, how your 
insurance company views things when they set the premiums!  Their objective 
is to absolutely make money on covering you.  Unfortunately, the only way 
you may know for sure that your arrangement has been a good deal for you 
is if they cancel you because they aren't making money!  I had a claim, 
about 20 years ago, on a satellite receiver that got toasted by a 
lightning strike.  My insurance company didn't cancel me afterwards, but 
they did force me to up my deductible!  If they don't get you coming, they 
will get you going!


Insurance is a must have, particularly for the significant risks we are 
all exposed to, but I'm still somewhat cynical about the way insurance 
companies run their business.  You pay a premium supposedly based on a pool 
of risks, but if you become a claimant, the thrust of the backlash will 
most probably be more against you rather than the pool.  Never mind that 
your loss may simply have been a case of the law of averages!


Clearly we all should evaluate our homeowner's policies to see what coverage 
we have, or don't have.  If the coverage isn't very good, then the ARRL 
insurance probably makes a lot of sense.  It would be nice if we had some 
insurance gurus who could maybe enlighten all of us about this aspect! 
I'm not exactly sure about my own coverage, but this thread has started me 
thinking about looking into that--if I can just get my agent to stand still 
for a few minutes to explain it to me!  Hi.  I do know this--whenever I've 
been moved to get some sort of explanation about coverage, I often am 
disappointed in the response  There always seems to be more in the way 
of exceptions, limitations, and exclusions than there is in actual coverage.


Self insuring isn't a bad alternative, although it probably wouldn't be 
sufficient against major risks.  If we had the discipline to put that 
premium money away in a savings account, we very well might be better off as 
to any of the more common risks.  The problem is, most of us don't have that 
sort of discipline, and want the peace of mind of protection against a 
sudden significant cost outlay.  For example, I'm guilty of this with 
respect to one of these home warranty plans.  For many years I've been a 
slot machine for the insurance company, and I pay a fairly high deductible 
for any repair visits--probably enough to cover most of the service call!  I 
even got a new refrigerator out of it some years back, but the premiums I 
have paid cover that cost many times over.  Still, I keep doing it, mainly 
out of concern that one of my A/C units might blow up!  It's hard to argue 
against the peace of mind thing, so you pay your money and take your choice!


Dave W7AQK


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