Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

[Drew AF2Z]

I would like to have a front panel that is designed according to these 
two rules:


1. Use physical controls only: buttons, knobs, switches. (Not a "smudge 
screen".)


2. The state of every control should be obvious by its position, 
rotation, dial, or adjacent LEDs; or, the control should be located 
directly adjacent to a screen area where its state is displayed.


IOW, it is annoying to operate a control on one side of the panel and 
having to look half way across the panel to the other side to see what 
the state of that control is.


I think if those two rules were followed you'd have a really satisfying 
rig to operate.


73,
Drew
AF2Z


On 05/30/17 17:36, ke9uw wrote:

I was wondering if the K3 display could be replaced by an updated display,
one that looks like the ones on the newest rigs from Japan. Could it be
displayed on the monitor connected to the svga on P3? Just wondering :)



-
Chuck, KE9UW
--
View this message in context: 
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Display-is-Dated-tp7631264.html
Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to pu...@af2z.net



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] WTB: EC2 Enclosure and KAT100 PNL

[Don Wilhelm]

Gary,

Elecraft has the KAT100PNL kit with all parts (including the Font and 
rear panels) to convert a KAT10001 to a KAT100-2.  You will also need 
the EC2 enclosure kit if you do not already have one.  You may also want 
the Tilt stand unless you plan to use the combination flat on a shelf.


You will also have to have the KIO2 (or suitable replacement) to carry 
the K2 internal control signals to the KPA100/KAT100.  The required 
cable is the same as the normal cable to the KAT100 (see the KAT100 manual).


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/31/2017 7:01 PM, Gary Watson wrote:

Hello,
I am going to assemble the K2 Twins.  If you have a spare enclosure for
Panel kit for the project let me know.


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] Semi-OT: Analog meters for K3

[Fred Jensen]

Folks,

I've needed to learn a new library and IDE for an upcoming ham project.  
As a learning tool, I built an "Analog K3 S-Meter and Power Meter." It's 
about as done as I plan to make it, I need to replace the generic 
Windows icon.  There are a couple of tiny cosmetic defects which shall 
remain as historical artifacts ... "learning return" on time investment 
is no longer positive.


If anyone yearns for asort-of analog-ish S-Meter for their K3, and 
having put a little effort into this, I'll give it to you via email.  
It's a Windows .exe file, you just save it somewhere and double-click 
it.  Requires a connection to the K3 RS-232 port, and won't work if the 
port is already occupied by your logging program.  You'll have to edit a 
1-line text file for whatever COM port your K3 is on, it comes with 
COM11 [mine].  I'm pretty sure it will work with a K3S.  I'm less sure 
with a KX3, and skeptical with a KX2or K2, but maybe [BG; SM; K31; and 
PC; commands]. It will maintain a configuration file wherever you stash 
it, no other writes or reads.  Avast, AVG, McAfee, Norton, and others 
may be skeptical, I will guarantee that the one you get from me is 
malware-free.


TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SALE:

Cost: $0.00 [cash and credit cards not accepted, PayPal very chancy]
Warranty: In your dreams
Support: see "Warranty"

Because many email clients gag on .exe attachments, it will come as a 
.txtand you get to practice your file renaming skills.  Not expecting a 
huge response here ... 1 would exceed expectations.  Thisis an eclectic 
group, one never knows.


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] WTB: EC2 Enclosure and KAT100 PNL

[Gary Watson]

Hello,
I am going to assemble the K2 Twins.  If you have a spare enclosure for
Panel kit for the project let me know.

Thanks for looking
Gary Watson
N7DXT
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] Display opinions

[len]

One interesting thing about the Elecraft displays, they can't be screwed up
with clever programming.  As they stand they are highly readable and
predictable.  When companies use fully bit addressable displays there is
always the temptation to use every last pixel, just because they can.  Even
when things start out uncluttered each new release adds to the dysfunction.
There is always too much temptation to screw up a good thing.  Just like
overloading switch functions

I really appreciate the simplicity and clean obvious function of the K-line
displays.  I truly hate the trend to have to "web two-dot-O' everything.
There is always a balance when it comes to the UI, Elecract nailed it the
first time around!

Thanks Wayne and team.

73

Len


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Berger
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:00 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Display opinions

This is fundamentally a form over substance debate.

There is nothing lacking in the current K3/K3S display other than it isn't
fashionable. Fashion isn't why most of us bought these transceivers.
don K1VSK
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message
delivered to l...@ka7ftp.com

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 display is dated.

[Jim Brown]

My sentiments exactly.  Everything I need to see and all the controls I 
need for day to day operation is on the K3/K3S front panel and easy to 
find/use.  This concern with appearances strongly reminds me of consumer 
audio and video products, which have small white lettering on a black 
chassis that's so hard to read that you need to look up close with a 
flashlight! My last HF rigs were a pair of used FT1000MPs. Took up WAY 
too much space on my desktop, cluttered display, much less intuitive, 
difficult/poorly documented menu structure, much more confusing, than 
the K3 that replaced them.


Because I use my much more compact KX3 only occasionally for portable 
operations, I do find myself looking for controls. But they're labeled, 
so I eventually find them. :)


I don't buy stuff to impress my friends. I buy it to use it!

73, Jim K9YC

On Tue,5/30/2017 6:08 PM, William Levy wrote:

I don't care about the display. I care about how the radio works. How it
hears and how it talks.
How it works in contest or expedition environments. If display is that
important you buy a FLEX and it's as big as can be.



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] Display opinions

[Don Berger]

This is fundamentally a form over substance debate.

There is nothing lacking in the current K3/K3S display other than it isn't
fashionable. Fashion isn't why most of us bought these transceivers.
don K1VSK
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] KPA-500 FS

[Tom Ewing]

I'm the second owner, original receipt, original packaging, barely used. Was a 
back up to an Expert 1k. 

$1800 shipped conus. 

Also have a custom bag made for it we can negotiate. 

Tommy
W0XXX
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] 4Sale: Near Mint Late Model K3s with accesories

[Carl-N8VZ]

Late model (SN 11038) K3s-100 for sale. I'm second owner, bought in December
2016. First owner owned it for less than a month. It was sent back to
factory before being delivered to me, and was aligned and updated. Rig is in
near-Mint condition and comes with the following:

*KAT3A-F ATU for K3/K3s
*KTCXO3-1 TCXO 1 ppm osc.
*KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder
*KBPF3A General Coverage RX Bandpass Filter
*KFL3A-1.0k-F 1 khZ, 8 Pole filter
*KFL3B-FM-IR-F FM-bandwidth, 8 pole roofing filter
*KFL3A-400 400 Hz 8 pole filter
*KFL3A-2.8 kHz 8 pole filter
*KFL3A- 6 kHz AM/ESSB 8 pole filter
*Third-party weighted knobs

Also, not currently installed in the rig, but included in the package is a
KFL3C-200K filter.
But wait, there's more: K-Pod, P3-F with TX Sensor (1.8-54MHz, 2K Max), and
LP-PAN2 Panadapter & Xonar U5 sound card.

More than $5,900 invested. All of this plus original box, factory manual,
KE7X Manual (for K3s & P3) can be yours, for $4,500 OBO, including shipping
to your CONUS address. PayPal ONLY!

For the record, I'm not abandoning Elecraft.  I still have, and love, my
KX3, KX2, and early K2 as well as my trusty KAT500 and KPA500.  I just need
to raise some cash for the purchase of a Flex 6600M that I put down a
pre-order for at Dayton.  Not being flush with money, I have to make some
hard choices.  As a result someone is going to get a very good deal! 

73,
Carl
N8VZ 


 



--
View this message in context: 
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/4Sale-Near-Mint-Late-Model-K3s-with-accesories-tp7631313.html
Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

[Fred Jensen]

I am colorblind... as in monochrome. The color waterfall on the P3 is 
barely usable for me.  The monochrome option is perfect.  I've used an 
IC-7600 and a PRO3 on county expeditions for the Cal QSOwhich 
[apparently] are quite colorful. It's a real strain for me.  K3 is just 
fine the way it is.  My Heath MM-1 is certainly "dated." It works just fine.


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 5/30/2017 4:19 PM, Al Lorona wrote:

Whenever this thread comes up-- and it has several times before-- I usually 
point toward the displays on the most advanced commercial aircraft in the skies 
for comparison. In this context, a pilot needs to know a few (or several) 
critical pieces of information instantly, and easily, and can't be captivated 
by eye candy. If your shiny new Kensucom's display looked like this, you 
probably wouldn't buy it:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737max/news/new-flight-deck-displays.page  
(watch closely at the 0:43 mark)



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3S oscillation issue

[Fred Jensen]

As Guy says, "... it almost never involves something wrong with any 
transceiver." At former QTH, my 70' tower/tribander was out back on 5 
acres, about 200 ft from the shack.  I was running RTTY then with my 
K2/100, and to aid in cooling, I mounted a computer muffin fan on top of 
the heat sink.  It made a huge difference.  On 15, only, with the beam 
pointed over the shack, every time the TX came on the fan stopped. The 
suspended coax from the tower to the shack was along that same azimuth, 
the antenna wascreating common mode currentswhen pointed in that 
directionand for some reason, the brushless fan motor was sensitive.  A 
common mode choke at the shack entrance fixed the problem.


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 5/31/2017 10:05 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

Talking to the masses as well as the original poster.

Many of us, this writer included, have experienced RFI, and it almost
never involves something wrong with the K3, or any transceiver, for
that matter. It was lack of bonding and/or grounding, loose leads,
plugs only halfway in, PL259's or BNC's not fastened down all the way,
broken or unsoldered or untightened shield connections, some
unfortunate wide-open physical path into the shack, an RF open barn
door, and more, a long list, sometimes humorous, but all physical,
physical, physical.



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] Sending in for a Tuneup

[Don Wilhelm]

Bob,

If you bought it new, it had that tuneup before it left the factory - 
any problems in the first year should be taken care of under warranty. 
If you do have problems, the first course of action is to contact 
Elecraft support.


If you bought it used, and you want it checked out at the factory the 
same as would be done if it were new, you will need an RSA to send it 
in.  To start that process, contact supp...@elecraft.com.  Wait until 
you have the RSA number and form and instructions before sending it.


I don't know what the normal time to check it out will be, but my guess 
is about 1.5 hours at $99 per hour plus shipping.
It will come back to you having been reset to factory defaults with 
firmware updated, so if you have established some favorite setting like 
TX/RX EQ or AGC parameters, etc.  Write your settings down before 
sending.  In this particular case I would suggest not relying on a saved 
configuration file.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/31/2017 1:56 PM, Bob Jonas wrote:

My KX3 is my first (and only) Elecraft and I am curious about the procedure
to have have it sent in have have them do a look over of the rig.
I've had had it for a few months and would just to get a clean bill of
health.
Any comments on the procedure?
Cost?

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] K3S DISPLAY IS GOOD, BUT...

[glcazz...@alice.it]

Dont agree, for me the display is adeguate.I need only the shift between the 
two vfo well specified on display. And asked to Wayne Burdick to implement it 
with next firmware release, without reply for now :)Ian IK4EWX

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] Sending in for a Tuneup

[Chris Tate - N6WM]

With your KX3 being just a few months old, my suggestion, if you are concerned 
about something would be to start with a phone call.  I usually send my heavy 
use contest equipment (K3) in every 3 or so years and that accounts for 10's of 
thousands of qso's.  

If your want a check up after just a few months I am assuming something is 
concerning you and a phone call to elecraft support would probably give you a 
comfort level.

Chris
N6WM

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of Bob Jonas [wx2i@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:56 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Sending in for a Tuneup

My KX3 is my first (and only) Elecraft and I am curious about the procedure
to have have it sent in have have them do a look over of the rig.
I've had had it for a few months and would just to get a clean bill of
health.
Any comments on the procedure?
Cost?
I'll look on their website too but I wanted to hear from those that have
gone through the experience as well!
Thank you and 7 3

Bob-WX2I
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to ct...@ewnetinc.com
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] P3 water fall reversed on 6 meters only ?

[Alan]

The K3 inverts the IF on all bands except 6 meters.  But the P3 is 
supposed to take that into account and display the spectrum with the 
proper orientation.


If it's not doing that, then it sounds like the RS-232 communications 
between the K3 and P3 may have failed for some reason.  Does the K3 VFO 
frequency display correctly on the P3?


Alan N1AL


On 05/31/2017 10:21 AM, tony leonardini via Elecraft wrote:

A upper sideband signal show up on the lower side & a lower sideband signal 
shows up on the upper side.  Dose not matter which ssb side is selected on the K3 
the transmit signal is reversed.All other bands display the correctly in the 
water fall.
Have a K3s /P3 and K3 /P3, ALL setting on both K3’s/P3’s are the same.
Do not know when this started just noticed it on this last 6m opening, this K3 
normally has either the main or sub setting on 6m.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated   wa6qmq
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to n...@sonic.net


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] Sending in for a Tuneup

[Bob Jonas]

My KX3 is my first (and only) Elecraft and I am curious about the procedure
to have have it sent in have have them do a look over of the rig.
I've had had it for a few months and would just to get a clean bill of
health.
Any comments on the procedure?
Cost?
I'll look on their website too but I wanted to hear from those that have
gone through the experience as well!
Thank you and 7 3

Bob-WX2I
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] P3 water fall reversed on 6 meters only ?

[tony leonardini via Elecraft]

A upper sideband signal show up on the lower side & a lower sideband signal 
shows up on the upper side.  Dose not matter which ssb side is selected on the 
K3 the transmit signal is reversed.    All other bands display the correctly in 
the water fall.
Have a K3s /P3 and K3 /P3, ALL setting on both K3’s/P3’s are the same.
Do not know when this started just noticed it on this last 6m opening, this K3 
normally has either the main or sub setting on 6m.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated   wa6qmq
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3S oscillation issue

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Talking to the masses as well as the original poster.

Many of us, this writer included, have experienced RFI, and it almost
never involves something wrong with the K3, or any transceiver, for
that matter. It was lack of bonding and/or grounding, loose leads,
plugs only halfway in, PL259's or BNC's not fastened down all the way,
broken or unsoldered or untightened shield connections, some
unfortunate wide-open physical path into the shack, an RF open barn
door, and more, a long list, sometimes humorous, but all physical,
physical, physical.

Sometimes double digit volts RF wandering around on station conductors.

Need RF blocking? Read K9YC's web page until you understand it, do the
work, don't cheat, don't cheep, don't use junk toroids you can't
positively identify, follow the formula. Do it everywhere, all the
way, by the book.

Many people simply cannot provide sufficient linear separation and the
station is unavoidably in the near field of one antenna or another.
Then the station wiring, RF wise, needs to get clean and tight, just
because the RF is so unavoidably high. Your club buddy can get away
with some stuff, but you can't.

Everyone I personally know that went after RFI studiously and
seriously, also solved it. And it was never fixed by modifying the
transceiver, and I'm talking about multiple brands and models.

If you get RFI now and then, and if you get in contests, be firmly
assured that Murphy knows it, and he will strike in the middle of the
best run you ever had.  :>)

Do the work.

73 and good luck,
Guy K2AV



On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Richard Hoffman, K1DJ via Elecraft
 wrote:
> My recent model K3S feeds a SteppIR 3-element beam with the 30/40 meter 
> trombone-shaped driven element on a (short) 40-foot tower.  Thanks to the 
> SteppIR's tuneability, the SWR is always at or close to 1:1.  I operate 
> primarily CW, primarily using the internal keyer.
>
> I have noticed that on 20 meters, primarily, but not only, when I am sending 
> a contest-type message from the K3S's internal memories, the rig occasionally 
> seems to go into some kind of self-oscillation loop.  Because it seems to 
> happen more often when my beam is pointed in particular directions, I think 
> it's most likely an as-yet unsolved RFI/insufficient or improper grounding 
> problem in my shack.
>
> But I would appreciate hearing whether you have experienced, and hopefully 
> solved, similar problems with the K3 or K3S?
>
> Please let me know, and thanks!
>
> Rich, K1DJ
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to k2av@gmail.com
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] EXTERNAL: Re: Digital mode advice

[Pawlak, Daniel L]

Thanks, Don. I will take a look at it. Any recommendations for
commercial products?

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:32 AM
To: Pawlak, Daniel L; 'Elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode advice

Dan,

Take a look at the interface box I built for my K2 long ago.  It is on
my webpage www.w3fpr.com.
I still use it on occasion.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/31/2017 7:29 AM, Pawlak, Daniel L wrote:
> Hi,
>  I have a K2 (ser no in the 3000s) and would like to
set it up to operate with the digital modes. I followed the thread about
getting started with JT65 software and will probably try that. My
question: is there some guidance available to help me set up my K2 for
digital modes. Many moons ago I hooked it up to my old PC and was able
to receive digital transmissions, using one of the common programs at
the time; but, I did not transmit. Is there an interface box I could buy
or build (kit?) to get my on the air?



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] No Receive or Transmit.

[G4GNX]

Have you tried restoring your configuration? With all the lightning we've 
had recently, maybe the memory got zapped?


When you say no receive, do you mean absolutely no audio or just no signals? 
Wrong antenna selected? Do you appear to generate RF when you attempt to 
Tune?


I recently switched on our club's K3 after performing some major upgrades, 
including SMD components. There was no receive audio and after the initial 
panic subsided, I realised that I had inadvertently turned the RF gain to 
zero. Is that a possibility with yours as well as possibly having the TX in 
Test mode or the power turned right down?


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Stuart Hill

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:25 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] No Receive or Transmit.

I have just switched on my K3 for the CW-T activity to find I have no 
receive or transmit. The radio was working fine last night, no problems at 
all


I have tried the EE INIT and reloading firmware to no effect.

Any help would be appreciated

Stuart, GD0OUD.

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] No Receive or Transmit.

[Stuart Hill]

I have just switched on my K3 for the CW-T activity to find I have no receive 
or transmit. The radio was working fine last night, no problems at all

I have tried the EE INIT and reloading firmware to no effect. 

Any help would be appreciated

Stuart, GD0OUD.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode advice

[Don Wilhelm]

Dan,

Take a look at the interface box I built for my K2 long ago.  It is on 
my webpage www.w3fpr.com.

I still use it on occasion.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/31/2017 7:29 AM, Pawlak, Daniel L wrote:

Hi,
 I have a K2 (ser no in the 3000s) and would like to set it up 
to operate with the digital modes. I followed the thread about getting started 
with JT65 software and will probably try that. My question: is there some 
guidance available to help me set up my K2 for digital modes. Many moons ago I 
hooked it up to my old PC and was able to receive digital transmissions, using 
one of the common programs at the time; but, I did not transmit. Is there an 
interface box I could buy or build (kit?) to get my on the air?

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] K3s and 6 Meters - Low Power Output Question

[Serge Bertuzzo]

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] Ris: K3 Display is Dated... I Dont agree

[glcazz...@alice.it]

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] Digital mode advice

[Pawlak, Daniel L]

Hi,
I have a K2 (ser no in the 3000s) and would like to set it up 
to operate with the digital modes. I followed the thread about getting started 
with JT65 software and will probably try that. My question: is there some 
guidance available to help me set up my K2 for digital modes. Many moons ago I 
hooked it up to my old PC and was able to receive digital transmissions, using 
one of the common programs at the time; but, I did not transmit. Is there an 
interface box I could buy or build (kit?) to get my on the air?
Thanks.

73, Dan KF4KKF
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

[Elecraft] K3S oscillation issue

[Richard Hoffman, K1DJ via Elecraft]

My recent model K3S feeds a SteppIR 3-element beam with the 30/40 meter 
trombone-shaped driven element on a (short) 40-foot tower.  Thanks to the 
SteppIR's tuneability, the SWR is always at or close to 1:1.  I operate 
primarily CW, primarily using the internal keyer.

I have noticed that on 20 meters, primarily, but not only, when I am sending a 
contest-type message from the K3S's internal memories, the rig occasionally 
seems to go into some kind of self-oscillation loop.  Because it seems to 
happen more often when my beam is pointed in particular directions, I think 
it's most likely an as-yet unsolved RFI/insufficient or improper grounding 
problem in my shack.

But I would appreciate hearing whether you have experienced, and hopefully 
solved, similar problems with the K3 or K3S?

Please let me know, and thanks!

Rich, K1DJ
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

[Erik Basilier]

Just for the record, when I refer to a possible dot matrix display for a
radio, I envision something with the resolution of an iPad, i.e. you can't
see the dots, and it can be made to look exactly like the current display.

73,
Erik

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:22 PM
To: Nr4c 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

Looks like there is a winner somewhere.  The Image is changing. Look at the
display in the KPA1500.

A preview of something to match?

73,
Bob
K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR




On 5/31/2017 12:03 AM, Nr4c wrote:
> I'm not sure why users get so involved in a discussion on topics like
this. The amber LCD display is part of the Elecraft image. They use it on
the K3, KX2, KX3 and K3S. It's not going to change so pick another battle!
One you can win.
> 
> Or, wait for the K4 in a couple years and it will likely have all or most
features that have been suggested but never added to the K3 line.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ..nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On May 30, 2017, at 9:00 PM, brian  wrote:
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> Agree.  However, there is a need to update the "displays" for functions
that were shoe horned into the K3 well after the display was cast in
concrete.
>>
>> Things like a flashing decimal point.  What the heck does that mean?
>> There are about a dozen such "non-intuitive" displays which could benefit
from some more obvious icon.
>>
>> It would also be nice if the DATA display would actually tell us which K3
data mode is being used.
>>
>> The chief beneficiaries would be people who use the K3 stand alone with
no computer.  Logging programs generally solve the above problems.
>>
>> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 5/31/2017 0:26 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> I have to agree, "the kiss principle" Keep is simple stupid - works 
>>> every time.
>>> While 'glitsy' displays are pretty to watch, they often do not 
>>> convey relevant information, or that information is buried in the 
>>> 'glitz' and not easily recognized at a glance.
>>>
>>> The K3, KX3, KX2 displays show the VFO frequency as the predominate 
>>> display with the VFO B as a slightly lesser predominance.  Other 
>>> functions are indicated to tell you what is going on.  Everything 
>>> needed is there.
>>>
>>> I have to contrast that to some of the displays I see on my tablet.  
>>> I have to hunt around the display to find the item of interest.
>>>
>>> Touchscreen - no thanks - I would need a stylus and not all stylus 
>>> touches produce the desired action (if my tablet is any example).  
>>> That uncertainty is not something I need in a radio.
>>>
>>> 73,
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message
delivered to ebasil...@cox.net

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

[Bob]

Looks like there is a winner somewhere.  The Image is changing. Look at the 
display in the KPA1500.


A preview of something to match?

73,
Bob
K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR




On 5/31/2017 12:03 AM, Nr4c wrote:

I'm not sure why users get so involved in a discussion on topics like this. The 
amber LCD display is part of the Elecraft image. They use it on the K3, KX2, 
KX3 and K3S. It's not going to change so pick another battle!  One you can win.

Or, wait for the K4 in a couple years and it will likely have all or most 
features that have been suggested but never added to the K3 line.

Sent from my iPhone
..nr4c. bill



On May 30, 2017, at 9:00 PM, brian  wrote:

Don,

Agree.  However, there is a need to update the "displays" for functions that 
were shoe horned into the K3 well after the display was cast in concrete.

Things like a flashing decimal point.  What the heck does that mean?
There are about a dozen such "non-intuitive" displays which could benefit from 
some more obvious icon.

It would also be nice if the DATA display would actually tell us which K3 data 
mode is being used.

The chief beneficiaries would be people who use the K3 stand alone with no 
computer.  Logging programs generally solve the above problems.

73 de Brian/K3KO




On 5/31/2017 0:26 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I have to agree, "the kiss principle" Keep is simple stupid - works
every time.
While 'glitsy' displays are pretty to watch, they often do not convey
relevant information, or that information is buried in the 'glitz' and
not easily recognized at a glance.

The K3, KX3, KX2 displays show the VFO frequency as the predominate
display with the VFO B as a slightly lesser predominance.  Other
functions are indicated to tell you what is going on.  Everything needed
is there.

I have to contrast that to some of the displays I see on my tablet.  I
have to hunt around the display to find the item of interest.

Touchscreen - no thanks - I would need a stylus and not all stylus
touches produce the desired action (if my tablet is any example).  That
uncertainty is not something I need in a radio.

73,

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

[Erik Basilier]

Controls: There are some people for whom everything ought to be controlled
from a general purpose computer, but I think most Elecrafters agree that
"real knobs" are better, and Elecraft has done a superb job in judging what
variables are deserving of the real knob approach. There will always be
things that can be relegated to menus, but to think that touch screens would
make it acceptable to hide more adjustments in menus would be a mistake.
Lots of people seem to find that the IC-7300 menus are a big pain.

Display size: There are good reasons not to make the display bigger:
*  I appreciate the modest size and weight of the current K3(s). A bigger
display would require a bigger front panel. 
* As others have said: unneeded clutter is distracting. Revealing personal
deficiencies is not pleasant, but I cannot resist. At my age I more and more
experience situations like the following. I go into the kitchen to get a
pair of scissors that reside on the countertop. The scissors have bright
orange handles, and are the only object with such color. The countertop also
has a number of knives and other kitchen implements on it. I stare but don't
immediately find the scissors. Or I may be reading a newspaper when I am
interrupted by a phone call. Years ago, after the phone call my focus goes
back to the paper, and magically, without effort, my eyes would go
immediately to the paragraph and sentence where I had left off. Somehow,
subconsciously, my brain had recorded information about the surrounding text
and so also recorded exactly where I left off. That rarely happens any more,
so I end up spending time searching for where I was. We don't want that to
happen as our gaze moves back and forth between the radio display and the
contest computer screen, or even when looking back and forth between
different items on the radio screen. Another example is reading world news
on the web. It has become very popular to present news items as a
two-dimensional clutter of images, each of which represents a news item. It
makes me confused about which of the items I have already looked at. So much
better to see a one-dimensional bullet list. Yes, the existing K3 display
can also be perceived as a confusing clutter, even if one is familiar with
the displayed items. I would not want to lose any of the displayed items
though. I do wish some of the front panel hardware buttons had different
colors. After a decade of using the K3, I still have to read the labels on
the BAND, MODE and POWER buttons to make sure I push the right one.

Display content: It is very helpful to find the same information in the same
places over the long term. Software developers (I used to be one) like to be
able to create "a new fresh look" every now and then. The fixed format of
the K3(s) LCD is wonderful for preventing such abuse. Nevertheless, I would
consider it an improvement to use a dot-matrix display that can be changed,
as long as that freedom is not used often. The selectivity graphics could be
improved. There could be more specific informaton about the new preamp
settings. Integration between radio and amplifier, while good today, could
go even further. When we are used to press a single button to run the ATU
for a new frequency, do we have to use more than one button after the
amplifier with its ATU is added? (Yeah, I know you don't really have to do
that every day if you rely on the memories, but that is beside the point.)
It would be nice if the radio display could show the amplifier output power.
Etc. Achieving better integration would probably require hardware changes
beyond the display screen, but when we are talking about changing the
display we are already talking about hardware changes in a new model radio.
Do I mean to say that the current display provides all the information we
need? Absolutely not, but the radio is made to suit a wide variety of use
cases. As others have said, a PC display can provide additonal information,
and it can be tailored to be optimal for a specific purpose, such as
contesting. Trying to provide all the information for all types of use on a
single screen is a recipe for hopeless clutter. Configurability is a nice
idea, but I wouldn't personally want to spend the time to use it for most
things. Life is too short to keep reinventing the wheel that others have
spent many hours on, and then save and backup my personal choices,
especially for the basic display items that most everyone needs. Having the
spectrum on a separate device such as the P3 is to me a positive, as the
very different look of the screen helps the brain go to the correct screen
without thinking, while avoiding having to search among many items on a
given screen. That said, the separate spectrum screen could be even more
useful by showing more spectrum-related information, including even spots
from an external program such as a contest logger.

Display color: Adding color to the radio display could be useful in helping
the eye find and return to