[Elecraft] Kidde Smoke detectors

[Frederick Dwight]

I had several 7 year old Kidde wired smoke/CO detectors on two levels.  I only 
run 100 watts, but occasionally triggered alarms on 160 meters where my 
vertical is
only 30 feet from the house. I replaced all detectors with First Alert units 
which come with a 10 year back up battery.  Never any trouble with the Kidde or 
First Alert units on 80-6 meters.  I never installed any ferrite or ran a high 
power amp so no idea how they would respond to 1KW plus.  The First Alert units 
do not have the voice warning, but give coded beeps for fire and CO.  I tried 
one unit first, then since my old ones were 7 years old, just replaced them 
all.  This is not a scientific
test with a sample size of ONE.  Just an idea to try, and my new units have 
only been installed less than 2 years.  Good Luck.  KL7CW 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

[Dave Cole]

Hi,
Got the attachments in the other email, thank you...  I will be sending 
a piece of traffic...


Interestingly enough, ardop works, and VARA does not, even though both 
are set up the same...


In any case, thank you for the help!


73, and thanks,
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ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/8/20 1:30 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

Dave -

The rig settings on VARA and ARDOP are in two different places.  For VARA,
you need to open the TNC window.

I am sending you info on the ARC exercises directly (there is no link).
Feel free to send to whomever you wish.

Also, if you (or anyone else) are interested in P2P Winlink for EmComm, let
me know and I will send an invitation to our Slack group (90 members in
continental US so far).

73
Lyn, W0LEN


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 9:37 AM
To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Hi again,

Thank you!  I set Ardop, and all is working again...  I will move to
VARA later on, as it shows the no PTT issue, but ARDOP does not...  I
now have my way to send an Internet message should I need to in an
Emergency...

You mentioned a Red Cross drill...  Our club is associated with the Red
Cross, but we have not heard of this drill...  Do you have a link for it?

Again, thank you!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/8/20 7:02 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

Dave -

There's another issue ... Winmor has been discontinued as of July 1.

If you try to send a Winmor message thru an RMS station, it will not

happen.


P2P Winmor still works, but for messages designed to go thru the CMS on

HF,

its VARA or ARDOP (and VARA is quickly emerging as the standard, since it

is

much faster than ARDOP).

73
Lyn, W0LEN


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 8:00 AM
To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Hi Lyn,

First off, THANK YOU for the help!!  I must have been unclear in my
first post...

I was using Winlink Winmore, and it does drive the radio to different
frequencies, the radio control is partially working...  It also used to
work 100%...

I am presented with a COM port, not a USB selection, (Winmore, or Vara),
when in the RADIO SETTINGS within the program, nothing to do with USB...

I was not aware there was a Red Cross drill was coming up.  I keep
Winlink around in the event of an emergency, it would be nice to be able
to get out an email or two in that event.

My Winlink setup is based on my desktop machine, (not mobile in any
way), which is Windows 10.  It has worked in the past with zero issues
across multiple updates...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/8/20 3:51 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

Dave -

Windows 10 attempts to lock down USB port assignments as a security

measure,

and does so again with each update.  Some apps are smart enough to deal

with

this, but Winlink is basically a 1990s era Email application and is
susceptible to issues like this.

There are numerous articles on how to deal with it.  Some that want to

sell

you an app to fix it, some that tell you how to fix it yourself (i.e.:

The

Windows Club website).  Select the one that best matches your comfort

level.

Worst case scenario, you fix it manually after every Windows update.  But

at

least you are aware of what needs fixing, and how to do it.

In most cases, you need to go into the Soundcard settings for the Mode

you

have selected (i.e.: Vara HF Winlink) and change the input and output
devices to USB Audio Codec.

Are you participating in the Red Cross drill next Saturday?

73
Lyn, W0LEN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 2:11 PM
To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Oh yes...  All other software using the PTT and mic are working fine...
Just Winlink fails to PTT.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/7/20 10:49 AM, Bob Novas via groups.io wrote:

Dave -

Make sure windows is allowing Winlink modem app to use the microphone.

Settings/System/Sound/"Related Settings" Microphone Privacy Settings:

Allow Apps to access your microphone: ON
Allow desktop apps to access 

Re: [Elecraft] Using CM-500 with Elecraft Rigs

[Jim Rhodes]

Yes, what you said was " Kenwood, Yaesu and Ten-Tec transceivers do not
provide bias for an electret mic *at all*. To use an electret mic with
those transceivers one needs to install a "power adder"". Actually they do
provide bias to their own line of electret mics, so you could have been a
little more specific and said "for non-OEM mics".  We can't tell what you
are thinking when you type.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 8:26 PM Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
>  > NOT SO,  DICK TRACY.   All three manufacturers provide 5-10v bias
>  > voltage on either Pin 2 or Pin 5, respectively - (and have done so for
>  > many years.)
>  >
>
> Read *ALL* of what I wrote.  I indicated that the power is on pin 2
> (Kenwood) or 5 (Yaesu/Ten-Tec) but one had to add a 5K6 Ohm resistor
> and 1 uF blocking capacitor in order to use an electret mic.  Those
> manufacturers do not provide "automatic" operation with the CM500
> or other electret mics.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2020-11-08 8:10 PM, JR wrote:
> > Joe, W4TV, said:
> > Kenwood, Yaesu and Ten-Tec transceivers do not provide bias for
> > an electret mic at all. To use an electret mic with those
> > transceivers one needs to install a "power adder" ...
> >
> > 
> >
> > NOT SO,  DICK TRACY.   All three manufacturers provide 5-10v bias
> > voltage on either Pin 2 or Pin 5, respectively - (and have done so for
> > many years.)
> >
> > Elecraft did operators a HUGE FAVOR  by switching bias voltage ON and
> > OFF with a MENU setting, adding an bonus measure of flexibility (...
> > which is NOT to be corn-fused with any sort of Flex-able Radio! ...
> > after all, this is CHAOS and we don't do that here ... ) ;-) Elecraft
> > earned bonus points for providing BOTH an 8-pin Foster jack AND a pair
> > of 3.5 mm TRS jacks to accommodate all sorts of microphones and headsets
> > without a middle-man adapter on its larger models - way ahead of the
> > field.   / K8JHR /
> >
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Using CM-500 with Elecraft Rigs

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> NOT SO,  DICK TRACY.   All three manufacturers provide 5-10v bias
> voltage on either Pin 2 or Pin 5, respectively - (and have done so for
> many years.)
>

Read *ALL* of what I wrote.  I indicated that the power is on pin 2
(Kenwood) or 5 (Yaesu/Ten-Tec) but one had to add a 5K6 Ohm resistor
and 1 uF blocking capacitor in order to use an electret mic.  Those
manufacturers do not provide "automatic" operation with the CM500
or other electret mics.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-11-08 8:10 PM, JR wrote:

    Joe, W4TV, said:
    Kenwood, Yaesu and Ten-Tec transceivers do not provide bias for
    an electret mic at all. To use an electret mic with those
    transceivers one needs to install a "power adder" ...

    

NOT SO,  DICK TRACY.   All three manufacturers provide 5-10v bias 
voltage on either Pin 2 or Pin 5, respectively - (and have done so for 
many years.)


Elecraft did operators a HUGE FAVOR  by switching bias voltage ON and 
OFF with a MENU setting, adding an bonus measure of flexibility (... 
which is NOT to be corn-fused with any sort of Flex-able Radio! ... 
after all, this is CHAOS and we don't do that here ... ) ;-) Elecraft 
earned bonus points for providing BOTH an 8-pin Foster jack AND a pair 
of 3.5 mm TRS jacks to accommodate all sorts of microphones and headsets 
without a middle-man adapter on its larger models - way ahead of the 
field.   / K8JHR /




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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors; Any follow up on RFI frm wireless models?

[Paul Taenzer]

Hello Lyn and Thanks.

I have a very similar arrangement with the KPA/KAT500 and three wired Kidde
smoke/ CO detectors.

I've had problems with it periodically over the years in spite of various
attempts to resolve triggering the smoke detectors using various ferrite
cores and bypass capacitors and being as fastidious as I can with grounding
in the shack.

Glad to hear it's working well in your shack

;-)

I'd be interested if anyone has experience running some power with the new
wirelessly interconnected Kidde detectors that create their own rf based
interconnection rather than use the wifi system that may already be present
in the home.

TNX agn

dw Paul VA3LX



On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 4:36 PM Lyn Norstad  wrote:

> I have a fairly new Kidde wired system (battery / AC) with a total of 10
> sensors on 3 levels.
>
> No RF issues with KPA/KAT500 at full power on any band 160-6m, any mode.
>
> 73
> Lyn, W0LEN
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of VA3LX
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 1:22 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors; Any follow up on RFI frm
> wireless models?
>
> Hello,
>
> I read the thread from several weeks ago discussing the Kidde wireless
> interconnected smoke detectors and the concern that they would be triggered
> by RF from ham radio.
>
> Has anyone who is running any power tried them?
>
> A local ham running 100 watts hasn't had problems.
>
> I have a Kidde wired interconnection smoke detector system that I trigger
> with > 250 watts. Numerous attempts with ferrite chokes and bypass
> capacitors haven't resolved it.
>
> TNX
>
> de Paul VA3LX
>
>
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[Elecraft] Using CM-500 with Elecraft Rigs

[JR]

   Joe, W4TV, said:
   Kenwood, Yaesu and Ten-Tec transceivers do not provide bias for
   an electret mic at all. To use an electret mic with those
   transceivers one needs to install a "power adder" ...

   

NOT SO,  DICK TRACY.   All three manufacturers provide 5-10v bias 
voltage on either Pin 2 or Pin 5, respectively - (and have done so for 
many years.)


Elecraft did operators a HUGE FAVOR  by switching bias voltage ON and 
OFF with a MENU setting, adding an bonus measure of flexibility (... 
which is NOT to be corn-fused with any sort of Flex-able Radio! ... 
after all, this is CHAOS and we don't do that here ... ) ;-) 
Elecraft earned bonus points for providing BOTH an 8-pin Foster jack AND 
a pair of 3.5 mm TRS jacks to accommodate all sorts of microphones and 
headsets without a middle-man adapter on its larger models - way ahead 
of the field.   / K8JHR /








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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors; Any follow up on RFI frm wireless models?

[Lyn Norstad]

I have a fairly new Kidde wired system (battery / AC) with a total of 10
sensors on 3 levels.

No RF issues with KPA/KAT500 at full power on any band 160-6m, any mode.

73
Lyn, W0LEN


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of VA3LX
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 1:22 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors; Any follow up on RFI frm
wireless models?

Hello,

I read the thread from several weeks ago discussing the Kidde wireless
interconnected smoke detectors and the concern that they would be triggered
by RF from ham radio.

Has anyone who is running any power tried them?

A local ham running 100 watts hasn't had problems.

I have a Kidde wired interconnection smoke detector system that I trigger
with > 250 watts. Numerous attempts with ferrite chokes and bypass
capacitors haven't resolved it.

TNX

de Paul VA3LX



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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

[Lyn Norstad]

Dave -  

The rig settings on VARA and ARDOP are in two different places.  For VARA,
you need to open the TNC window.

I am sending you info on the ARC exercises directly (there is no link).
Feel free to send to whomever you wish.

Also, if you (or anyone else) are interested in P2P Winlink for EmComm, let
me know and I will send an invitation to our Slack group (90 members in
continental US so far).

73
Lyn, W0LEN


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 9:37 AM
To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Hi again,

Thank you!  I set Ardop, and all is working again...  I will move to 
VARA later on, as it shows the no PTT issue, but ARDOP does not...  I 
now have my way to send an Internet message should I need to in an 
Emergency...

You mentioned a Red Cross drill...  Our club is associated with the Red 
Cross, but we have not heard of this drill...  Do you have a link for it?

Again, thank you!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/8/20 7:02 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
> Dave -
> 
> There's another issue ... Winmor has been discontinued as of July 1.
> 
> If you try to send a Winmor message thru an RMS station, it will not
happen.
> 
> P2P Winmor still works, but for messages designed to go thru the CMS on
HF,
> its VARA or ARDOP (and VARA is quickly emerging as the standard, since it
is
> much faster than ARDOP).
> 
> 73
> Lyn, W0LEN
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 8:00 AM
> To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink
> 
> Hi Lyn,
> 
> First off, THANK YOU for the help!!  I must have been unclear in my
> first post...
> 
> I was using Winlink Winmore, and it does drive the radio to different
> frequencies, the radio control is partially working...  It also used to
> work 100%...
> 
> I am presented with a COM port, not a USB selection, (Winmore, or Vara),
> when in the RADIO SETTINGS within the program, nothing to do with USB...
> 
> I was not aware there was a Red Cross drill was coming up.  I keep
> Winlink around in the event of an emergency, it would be nice to be able
> to get out an email or two in that event.
> 
> My Winlink setup is based on my desktop machine, (not mobile in any
> way), which is Windows 10.  It has worked in the past with zero issues
> across multiple updates...
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
> On 11/8/20 3:51 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>> Dave -
>>
>> Windows 10 attempts to lock down USB port assignments as a security
> measure,
>> and does so again with each update.  Some apps are smart enough to deal
> with
>> this, but Winlink is basically a 1990s era Email application and is
>> susceptible to issues like this.
>>
>> There are numerous articles on how to deal with it.  Some that want to
> sell
>> you an app to fix it, some that tell you how to fix it yourself (i.e.:
The
>> Windows Club website).  Select the one that best matches your comfort
> level.
>> Worst case scenario, you fix it manually after every Windows update.  But
> at
>> least you are aware of what needs fixing, and how to do it.
>>
>> In most cases, you need to go into the Soundcard settings for the Mode
you
>> have selected (i.e.: Vara HF Winlink) and change the input and output
>> devices to USB Audio Codec.
>>
>> Are you participating in the Red Cross drill next Saturday?
>>
>> 73
>> Lyn, W0LEN
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
>> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 2:11 PM
>> To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink
>>
>> Oh yes...  All other software using the PTT and mic are working fine...
>> Just Winlink fails to PTT.
>>
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>
>> On 11/7/20 10:49 AM, Bob Novas via groups.io wrote:
>>> Dave -
>>>
>>> Make sure windows is allowing Winlink modem app to use the microphone.
>>>
>>> Settings/System/Sound/"Related Settings" Microphone Privacy Settings:
>>>
>>> Allow Apps to access your microphone: ON
>>> Allow desktop apps to access your microphone: VARA HF MODEM, whatever
> else
>> you use
>>>
>>> Bob - W3DK
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: elecraft...@groups.io [mailto:elecraft...@groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Dave Cole
>>> 

Re: [Elecraft] CM-500

[Mike Short]

It is Engrish

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 12:52 Walter Underwood  wrote:

> The official product page is also wrong, either through ignorance or
> spell-check. It describes it as "a sensitive electric microphone”.
>
>
> https://usa.yamaha.com/products/music_production/accessories/cm500/features.html#product-tabs
> <
> https://usa.yamaha.com/products/music_production/accessories/cm500/features.html#product-tabs
> >
>
> I think we can all agree that a) it has an electret mic, and b) the
> official product descriptions are a mess.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
> > On Nov 8, 2020, at 1:27 AM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> >
> > On 11/7/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> >> The packaging said (in part), "Dynamic Microphone for Active Musicians"
> >
> > The sales/marketing department, usually ignorant of what they're
> selling, wrote that drivel you're reading, which is intended simply to sell
> more of whatever they're selling.
> >
> > The CM500 has had an ELECTRET mic as far back as 2008, when W6XU,
> another audio professional, arranged a group purchase for your Bay Area
> contesting club. It DOES need Bias, which most modern rigs provide on one
> pin of their mic connector. Simply adding a resistor of suitable value (in
> the range of 5-10KOhms) between that pin and the mic input pin, provides
> bias suitable for most electret mics.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors; Any follow up on RFI frm wireless models?

[VA3LX]

Hello,

I read the thread from several weeks ago discussing the Kidde wireless
interconnected smoke detectors and the concern that they would be triggered
by RF from ham radio.

Has anyone who is running any power tried them?

A local ham running 100 watts hasn't had problems.

I have a Kidde wired interconnection smoke detector system that I trigger
with > 250 watts. Numerous attempts with ferrite chokes and bypass
capacitors haven't resolved it.

TNX

de Paul VA3LX



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Re: [Elecraft] CM-500

[Walter Underwood]

The official product page is also wrong, either through ignorance or 
spell-check. It describes it as "a sensitive electric microphone”.

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/music_production/accessories/cm500/features.html#product-tabs
 


I think we can all agree that a) it has an electret mic, and b) the official 
product descriptions are a mess.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Nov 8, 2020, at 1:27 AM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On 11/7/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
>> The packaging said (in part), "Dynamic Microphone for Active Musicians"
> 
> The sales/marketing department, usually ignorant of what they're selling, 
> wrote that drivel you're reading, which is intended simply to sell more of 
> whatever they're selling.
> 
> The CM500 has had an ELECTRET mic as far back as 2008, when W6XU, another 
> audio professional, arranged a group purchase for your Bay Area contesting 
> club. It DOES need Bias, which most modern rigs provide on one pin of their 
> mic connector. Simply adding a resistor of suitable value (in the range of 
> 5-10KOhms) between that pin and the mic input pin, provides bias suitable for 
> most electret mics.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Cancellation

[kevinr]

Hello,

   Due to the sweepstakes contest there will be no CW nets today.  
Gives me time to do some serious fall cleaning.  I hope the solar flux 
remains high.  It is over 90 right now after years stuck at 70.  There 
is also a large sunspot group.  The new solar cycle has arrived.


   See you next week,

  Kevin.  KD5ONS


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Re: [Elecraft] CM-500

[Bill Frantz]

As I noted in my report, which deliberately reached no 
conclusions, just the facts ma'am, the microphone stopped 
working when I removed the "bias" on the K3. So it needs that 
power. Well, electret microphones certainly need power to run 
their internal amplifiers. Some other microphones (e.g. 
condensor) also need power, which is why pro audio systems have 
phantom power over their audio cables.


It very probably isn't a dynamic mic, although someone might 
build a dynamic mic with a built-in amplifier which would only 
work with external power. YMMV!


However, given the electret microphones are very cheap and are 
good quality, I'd bet on electret.


For more information and a fun read, see 
.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 11/8/20 at 4:27 AM, j...@audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote:


On 11/7/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

The packaging said (in part), "Dynamic Microphone for Active Musicians"


The sales/marketing department, usually ignorant of what 
they're selling, wrote that drivel you're reading, which is 
intended simply to sell more of whatever they're selling.


The CM500 has had an ELECTRET mic as far back as 2008, when 
W6XU, another audio professional, arranged a group purchase for 
your Bay Area contesting club. It DOES need Bias, which most 
modern rigs provide on one pin of their mic connector. Simply 
adding a resistor of suitable value (in the range of 5-10KOhms) 
between that pin and the mic input pin, provides bias suitable 
for most electret mics.

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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

[Dave Cole]

Hi again,

Thank you!  I set Ardop, and all is working again...  I will move to 
VARA later on, as it shows the no PTT issue, but ARDOP does not...  I 
now have my way to send an Internet message should I need to in an 
Emergency...


You mentioned a Red Cross drill...  Our club is associated with the Red 
Cross, but we have not heard of this drill...  Do you have a link for it?


Again, thank you!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/8/20 7:02 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

Dave -

There's another issue ... Winmor has been discontinued as of July 1.

If you try to send a Winmor message thru an RMS station, it will not happen.

P2P Winmor still works, but for messages designed to go thru the CMS on HF,
its VARA or ARDOP (and VARA is quickly emerging as the standard, since it is
much faster than ARDOP).

73
Lyn, W0LEN


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 8:00 AM
To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Hi Lyn,

First off, THANK YOU for the help!!  I must have been unclear in my
first post...

I was using Winlink Winmore, and it does drive the radio to different
frequencies, the radio control is partially working...  It also used to
work 100%...

I am presented with a COM port, not a USB selection, (Winmore, or Vara),
when in the RADIO SETTINGS within the program, nothing to do with USB...

I was not aware there was a Red Cross drill was coming up.  I keep
Winlink around in the event of an emergency, it would be nice to be able
to get out an email or two in that event.

My Winlink setup is based on my desktop machine, (not mobile in any
way), which is Windows 10.  It has worked in the past with zero issues
across multiple updates...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/8/20 3:51 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

Dave -

Windows 10 attempts to lock down USB port assignments as a security

measure,

and does so again with each update.  Some apps are smart enough to deal

with

this, but Winlink is basically a 1990s era Email application and is
susceptible to issues like this.

There are numerous articles on how to deal with it.  Some that want to

sell

you an app to fix it, some that tell you how to fix it yourself (i.e.: The
Windows Club website).  Select the one that best matches your comfort

level.

Worst case scenario, you fix it manually after every Windows update.  But

at

least you are aware of what needs fixing, and how to do it.

In most cases, you need to go into the Soundcard settings for the Mode you
have selected (i.e.: Vara HF Winlink) and change the input and output
devices to USB Audio Codec.

Are you participating in the Red Cross drill next Saturday?

73
Lyn, W0LEN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 2:11 PM
To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Oh yes...  All other software using the PTT and mic are working fine...
Just Winlink fails to PTT.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/7/20 10:49 AM, Bob Novas via groups.io wrote:

Dave -

Make sure windows is allowing Winlink modem app to use the microphone.

Settings/System/Sound/"Related Settings" Microphone Privacy Settings:

Allow Apps to access your microphone: ON
Allow desktop apps to access your microphone: VARA HF MODEM, whatever

else

you use


Bob - W3DK


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From: elecraft...@groups.io [mailto:elecraft...@groups.io] On Behalf Of

Dave Cole

Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 1:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; elecraft...@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Hi,

Is anyone using Winlink, (latest), with Windows 10, (latest), and a K3?
All used to work, and all of a sudden PTT fails.  All else works, the
radio is driven to the best frequency, etc...  I have made no known
changes.  There was a windows update...  I would like to verify it still
works, and if so, to get some settings from you...








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Re: [Elecraft] CM-500

[Gwen Patton]

Since I mostly use my KX3 at home with the PX3 and KXPA100, I have the
radio permanently connected to the audio of my computer. I have Voicemeeter
Potato installed, so my output is the computer's speakers (currently sent
to headphones), and the mike input comes from a Zoom H4n Handy Recorder in
USB interface mode. The radio doesn't supply power, the USB on the computer
does. If I had to hook it direct, I'd make a custom cable for the mike
input, XLR to 3.5mm, or at worst, 1/4" phono to 3.5mm. The H4n has, in
addition to built-in mikes, XLR in/out with integral 1/4" sockets. Then I'd
put batteries in the H4n to supply its power. The H4n also has a 1/4"x24
stud mount, so it can be connected to a tripod, a cold shoe for a video
camera, or a mike stand adapter to fit a standard mike stand or boom.
That's how I have it set up right now, with an On-Stage extendable arm,
clamped to the upright pipe of the wire rack next to my chair that I use as
my "shack stack".

The built-in stereo mikes are electrets, of course, but they're GOOD
electrets. The H4n is prosumer gear bordering on professional grade, with
VERY good sound. I get a lot of compliments on the SSB output of this setup.

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Gwen, NG3P


On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 4:27 AM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 11/7/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> > The packaging said (in part), "Dynamic Microphone for Active Musicians"
>
> The sales/marketing department, usually ignorant of what they're
> selling, wrote that drivel you're reading, which is intended simply to
> sell more of whatever they're selling.
>
> The CM500 has had an ELECTRET mic as far back as 2008, when W6XU,
> another audio professional, arranged a group purchase for your Bay Area
> contesting club. It DOES need Bias, which most modern rigs provide on
> one pin of their mic connector. Simply adding a resistor of suitable
> value (in the range of 5-10KOhms) between that pin and the mic input
> pin, provides bias suitable for most electret mics.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Elecraft parts (clean-out)

[Frank Krozel]

Been sorting through my stock, decided to sell as one-lot, pictures off line.

K3, Bezels, 3
K3 Filters (pulls, non-Elecraft), 1.8kHz, 400Hz, 400Hz
K3, Elecraft 6kHz, AM filter
K3, synthesizer #1
K3, synthesizer #2
K3, KPF3
KX3 KXPD3 Spring and contact upgrade
KX3-2M, 2 meter module

I can use a K2, or $450 cash.

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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

[Lyn Norstad]

Dave -

There's another issue ... Winmor has been discontinued as of July 1.

If you try to send a Winmor message thru an RMS station, it will not happen.

P2P Winmor still works, but for messages designed to go thru the CMS on HF,
its VARA or ARDOP (and VARA is quickly emerging as the standard, since it is
much faster than ARDOP).

73
Lyn, W0LEN


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 8:00 AM
To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Hi Lyn,

First off, THANK YOU for the help!!  I must have been unclear in my 
first post...

I was using Winlink Winmore, and it does drive the radio to different 
frequencies, the radio control is partially working...  It also used to 
work 100%...

I am presented with a COM port, not a USB selection, (Winmore, or Vara), 
when in the RADIO SETTINGS within the program, nothing to do with USB...

I was not aware there was a Red Cross drill was coming up.  I keep 
Winlink around in the event of an emergency, it would be nice to be able 
to get out an email or two in that event.

My Winlink setup is based on my desktop machine, (not mobile in any 
way), which is Windows 10.  It has worked in the past with zero issues 
across multiple updates...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/8/20 3:51 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
> Dave -
> 
> Windows 10 attempts to lock down USB port assignments as a security
measure,
> and does so again with each update.  Some apps are smart enough to deal
with
> this, but Winlink is basically a 1990s era Email application and is
> susceptible to issues like this.
> 
> There are numerous articles on how to deal with it.  Some that want to
sell
> you an app to fix it, some that tell you how to fix it yourself (i.e.: The
> Windows Club website).  Select the one that best matches your comfort
level.
> Worst case scenario, you fix it manually after every Windows update.  But
at
> least you are aware of what needs fixing, and how to do it.
> 
> In most cases, you need to go into the Soundcard settings for the Mode you
> have selected (i.e.: Vara HF Winlink) and change the input and output
> devices to USB Audio Codec.
> 
> Are you participating in the Red Cross drill next Saturday?
> 
> 73
> Lyn, W0LEN
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 2:11 PM
> To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink
> 
> Oh yes...  All other software using the PTT and mic are working fine...
> Just Winlink fails to PTT.
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
> On 11/7/20 10:49 AM, Bob Novas via groups.io wrote:
>> Dave -
>>
>> Make sure windows is allowing Winlink modem app to use the microphone.
>>
>> Settings/System/Sound/"Related Settings" Microphone Privacy Settings:
>>
>> Allow Apps to access your microphone: ON
>> Allow desktop apps to access your microphone: VARA HF MODEM, whatever
else
> you use
>>
>> Bob - W3DK
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft...@groups.io [mailto:elecraft...@groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Dave Cole
>> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 1:32 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; elecraft...@groups.io
>> Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Winlink
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is anyone using Winlink, (latest), with Windows 10, (latest), and a K3?
>> All used to work, and all of a sudden PTT fails.  All else works, the
>> radio is driven to the best frequency, etc...  I have made no known
>> changes.  There was a windows update...  I would like to verify it still
>> works, and if so, to get some settings from you...
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

[Dave Cole]

Hi Lyn,

First off, THANK YOU for the help!!  I must have been unclear in my 
first post...


I was using Winlink Winmore, and it does drive the radio to different 
frequencies, the radio control is partially working...  It also used to 
work 100%...


I am presented with a COM port, not a USB selection, (Winmore, or Vara), 
when in the RADIO SETTINGS within the program, nothing to do with USB...


I was not aware there was a Red Cross drill was coming up.  I keep 
Winlink around in the event of an emergency, it would be nice to be able 
to get out an email or two in that event.


My Winlink setup is based on my desktop machine, (not mobile in any 
way), which is Windows 10.  It has worked in the past with zero issues 
across multiple updates...


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/8/20 3:51 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

Dave -

Windows 10 attempts to lock down USB port assignments as a security measure,
and does so again with each update.  Some apps are smart enough to deal with
this, but Winlink is basically a 1990s era Email application and is
susceptible to issues like this.

There are numerous articles on how to deal with it.  Some that want to sell
you an app to fix it, some that tell you how to fix it yourself (i.e.: The
Windows Club website).  Select the one that best matches your comfort level.
Worst case scenario, you fix it manually after every Windows update.  But at
least you are aware of what needs fixing, and how to do it.

In most cases, you need to go into the Soundcard settings for the Mode you
have selected (i.e.: Vara HF Winlink) and change the input and output
devices to USB Audio Codec.

Are you participating in the Red Cross drill next Saturday?

73
Lyn, W0LEN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 2:11 PM
To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Oh yes...  All other software using the PTT and mic are working fine...
Just Winlink fails to PTT.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/7/20 10:49 AM, Bob Novas via groups.io wrote:

Dave -

Make sure windows is allowing Winlink modem app to use the microphone.

Settings/System/Sound/"Related Settings" Microphone Privacy Settings:

Allow Apps to access your microphone: ON
Allow desktop apps to access your microphone: VARA HF MODEM, whatever else

you use


Bob - W3DK


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Dave Cole

Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 1:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; elecraft...@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Hi,

Is anyone using Winlink, (latest), with Windows 10, (latest), and a K3?
All used to work, and all of a sudden PTT fails.  All else works, the
radio is driven to the best frequency, etc...  I have made no known
changes.  There was a windows update...  I would like to verify it still
works, and if so, to get some settings from you...




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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

[Lyn Norstad]

Dave -

Windows 10 attempts to lock down USB port assignments as a security measure,
and does so again with each update.  Some apps are smart enough to deal with
this, but Winlink is basically a 1990s era Email application and is
susceptible to issues like this.

There are numerous articles on how to deal with it.  Some that want to sell
you an app to fix it, some that tell you how to fix it yourself (i.e.: The
Windows Club website).  Select the one that best matches your comfort level.
Worst case scenario, you fix it manually after every Windows update.  But at
least you are aware of what needs fixing, and how to do it.  

In most cases, you need to go into the Soundcard settings for the Mode you
have selected (i.e.: Vara HF Winlink) and change the input and output
devices to USB Audio Codec.

Are you participating in the Red Cross drill next Saturday?

73
Lyn, W0LEN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 2:11 PM
To: elecraft...@groups.io; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Oh yes...  All other software using the PTT and mic are working fine... 
Just Winlink fails to PTT.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/7/20 10:49 AM, Bob Novas via groups.io wrote:
> Dave -
> 
> Make sure windows is allowing Winlink modem app to use the microphone.
> 
> Settings/System/Sound/"Related Settings" Microphone Privacy Settings:
> 
> Allow Apps to access your microphone: ON
> Allow desktop apps to access your microphone: VARA HF MODEM, whatever else
you use
> 
> Bob - W3DK
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft...@groups.io [mailto:elecraft...@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Cole
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 1:32 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; elecraft...@groups.io
> Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Winlink
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is anyone using Winlink, (latest), with Windows 10, (latest), and a K3?
> All used to work, and all of a sudden PTT fails.  All else works, the
> radio is driven to the best frequency, etc...  I have made no known
> changes.  There was a windows update...  I would like to verify it still
> works, and if so, to get some settings from you...

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Re: [Elecraft] CM-500

[Jim Brown]

On 11/7/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

The packaging said (in part), "Dynamic Microphone for Active Musicians"


The sales/marketing department, usually ignorant of what they're 
selling, wrote that drivel you're reading, which is intended simply to 
sell more of whatever they're selling.


The CM500 has had an ELECTRET mic as far back as 2008, when W6XU, 
another audio professional, arranged a group purchase for your Bay Area 
contesting club. It DOES need Bias, which most modern rigs provide on 
one pin of their mic connector. Simply adding a resistor of suitable 
value (in the range of 5-10KOhms) between that pin and the mic input 
pin, provides bias suitable for most electret mics.


73, Jim K9YC
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