Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
APP housings come in four physical sizes with current ratings up to 180A. The next size up from our familiar 15-45A housings is the PP75. It is good for 6-16 AWG wires. There are adapters (multi-connector blocks) that include both these larger connectors and the smaller ones. HRO carries this stuff here in the Bay Area. /Rick N6XI On 2/16/09, Julius Fazekas wrote: > > I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS > is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down > to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Soldering is an option if you don't have a crimping tool. "A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may never get over." Ben Franklin -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Hammond Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:23 AM To: KM5Q; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter Hi Windy: >Those short #10 pigtails need to be very flexible. You can go to a car >audio shop and by extremely flexible wire by the foot. If it almost >fits the connector, snip off a few strands. > >The stuff I got is "speaker cable" but I use it for power leads. Very >nice. I used a 4"-6" length of #10 RED-BLK power cable (from somewhere unknown) which was quite flexible and worked great. And all(!) of the wire strands fit nicely into the trough of the 45A connector. I used the West Mountain Radio crimper and it did a really nice job on the 45A (and other sizes) of connector. It would probably have choked had I tried to use it on #10 solid copper and possibly on hard-drawn copper, just Like Tim, KA0OUV, noted. I've not broken any dies... yet! 73, Tom Hammond N0SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Hi Windy: >Those short #10 pigtails need to be very flexible. You can go to a car >audio shop and by extremely flexible wire by the foot. If it almost >fits the connector, snip off a few strands. > >The stuff I got is "speaker cable" but I use it for power leads. Very >nice. I used a 4"-6" length of #10 RED-BLK power cable (from somewhere unknown) which was quite flexible and worked great. And all(!) of the wire strands fit nicely into the trough of the 45A connector. I used the West Mountain Radio crimper and it did a really nice job on the 45A (and other sizes) of connector. It would probably have choked had I tried to use it on #10 solid copper and possibly on hard-drawn copper, just Like Tim, KA0OUV, noted. I've not broken any dies... yet! 73, Tom Hammond N0SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Those short #10 pigtails need to be very flexible. You can go to a car audio shop and by extremely flexible wire by the foot. If it almost fits the connector, snip off a few strands. The stuff I got is "speaker cable" but I use it for power leads. Very nice. Windy KM5Q > Use pigtail wires of the largest guage the PP connectors will > accept, to > interface between the #8 AWG and the PP connectors. > > Milt, N5IA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Tim, This stuff will definitely not go into the 30A connector, doubtful on the 45A either. It is a multi-strand cable. Looks like Tom's suggestion will work best. Cheers, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Timothy Raymer wrote: > From: Timothy Raymer > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > To: "phriend...@yahoo.com" , "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" > > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:23 AM > I got mine when Tom, N0SS, did a bulk order for the club. I > believe WMR does stock them. 261G2 is the contact P/N they > list on their web site. Actually rated for only 10 gauge > wire. > > If you have conventional soft-drawn copper 8 AWG wire, you > might be able to get them to crimp. I ran into trouble with > some specialized 10 AWG wire for stereo installations. > Copper was lots of fine wires, and a harder draw. It > wouldn't compress enough, and the cast die from the WMR > crimp tool didn't like it. > > Tim Raymer > > 73 de KA0OUV > > -Original Message- > From: Julius Fazekas [mailto:phriend...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 08:16 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Timothy Raymer > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > Hi Tim, > > Didn't know they made those. Do you know the part > number? Does WMR have them? > > Thanks, > Julius > > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > > > --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Timothy Raymer > wrote: > > > From: Timothy Raymer > > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > To: "phriend...@yahoo.com" > , > "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" > > > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:12 AM > > Julius: > > > > If it is conventional 8AWG wire, it probably will fit > in > > the 45A crimps for the Anderson Power Pole Connectors. > > > Those same contacts fit in the enclosures that fit our > > Elecraft PP. Just be cautious when crimping it down. > If > > you have access to the Anderson Die Crimp tool rather > than > > the West Mountain Combo, I would recommend using that > one. > > > > Tim Raymer > > K2 #1383 > > 73 de KA0OUV > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > > Julius Fazekas > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 07:47 > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > > > I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. > > Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't > > figured out an "elegant" means to drop it > down to > > use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julius Fazekas > > N2WN > > > > Tennessee Contest Group > > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: > > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Use pigtail wires of the largest guage the PP connectors will accept, to interface between the #8 AWG and the PP connectors. Milt, N5IA - Original Message - From: "Julius Fazekas" To: Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:46 AM Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter >I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS >is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it >down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
I got mine when Tom, N0SS, did a bulk order for the club. I believe WMR does stock them. 261G2 is the contact P/N they list on their web site. Actually rated for only 10 gauge wire. If you have conventional soft-drawn copper 8 AWG wire, you might be able to get them to crimp. I ran into trouble with some specialized 10 AWG wire for stereo installations. Copper was lots of fine wires, and a harder draw. It wouldn't compress enough, and the cast die from the WMR crimp tool didn't like it. Tim Raymer 73 de KA0OUV -Original Message- From: Julius Fazekas [mailto:phriend...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 08:16 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Timothy Raymer Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter Hi Tim, Didn't know they made those. Do you know the part number? Does WMR have them? Thanks, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Timothy Raymer wrote: > From: Timothy Raymer > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > To: "phriend...@yahoo.com" , "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" > > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:12 AM > Julius: > > If it is conventional 8AWG wire, it probably will fit in > the 45A crimps for the Anderson Power Pole Connectors. > Those same contacts fit in the enclosures that fit our > Elecraft PP. Just be cautious when crimping it down. If > you have access to the Anderson Die Crimp tool rather than > the West Mountain Combo, I would recommend using that one. > > Tim Raymer > K2 #1383 > 73 de KA0OUV > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > Julius Fazekas > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 07:47 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. > Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't > figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to > use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Hi Tim, Didn't know they made those. Do you know the part number? Does WMR have them? Thanks, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Timothy Raymer wrote: > From: Timothy Raymer > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > To: "phriend...@yahoo.com" , "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" > > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:12 AM > Julius: > > If it is conventional 8AWG wire, it probably will fit in > the 45A crimps for the Anderson Power Pole Connectors. > Those same contacts fit in the enclosures that fit our > Elecraft PP. Just be cautious when crimping it down. If > you have access to the Anderson Die Crimp tool rather than > the West Mountain Combo, I would recommend using that one. > > Tim Raymer > K2 #1383 > 73 de KA0OUV > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > Julius Fazekas > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 07:47 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. > Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't > figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to > use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Hi Tom, I like it! May even have some suitable tubing on hand. Just out of curiosity, have you used the APP connectors from old UPS units for anything? We had a couple of units with fried boards and the connectors (and several other parts)) were just too good to dispose of :o) All of my power distribution has the same size APP as on the K3, KPA100, etc. I have a nice 50A adjustable rack mount supply I want to use about 10 feet from the operating position, so 8AWG seems to fit the bill. Hope you're doing well! 73, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Tom Hammond wrote: > From: Tom Hammond > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > To: phriend...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 8:57 AM > Hi Julius: > > I'm using #8 in my mobile installation and had to get > it down to a more > suitable gauge for the APP connectors. > > I made a couple butt-joint connectors from short (1") > lengths of brass > 'hobby tubing' obtained at the local hardware > store. I took a short piece > of the #8 wire with me and selected the smallest diameter > of brass tubing > that would still accommodate the stripped #8 wire. > > I then cut two 1" lengths, inserted one #8 wire > (stripped to show 1/2" of > wire into the tubing, flowed more than ample solder in from > the other end. > Let it cool while I did the other conductor. Returned to > tube #1 and heated > it back up while gently inserting the 1/2"-stripped > end of my #10 wire > (which does fit the APP 45A connector). Let solder set and > cover with a > 1-1/2" length of heatshrink and yer good to go! Works > like a champ. > > I could have used 'real' #8 butt-join connectors, > but they were too large > and 'clunky' for my liking... the brass hobby > tubing works great, and it'll > handle well over the 20A-30A needed by most rigs and > accessories. > > 73, > > Tom N0SS > > > > At 07:46 02/16/2009, Julius Fazekas wrote: > >I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. > Connecting to > >the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an > "elegant" means > >to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any > ideas? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Julius Fazekas > >N2WN > > > >Tennessee Contest Group > >TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > > >Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > >Elecraft K3/100 #366 > >__ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Julius: If it is conventional 8AWG wire, it probably will fit in the 45A crimps for the Anderson Power Pole Connectors. Those same contacts fit in the enclosures that fit our Elecraft PP. Just be cautious when crimping it down. If you have access to the Anderson Die Crimp tool rather than the West Mountain Combo, I would recommend using that one. Tim Raymer K2 #1383 73 de KA0OUV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julius Fazekas Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 07:47 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? Thanks, Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Julius, Solder a short pigtail of #10 or #12 to the ends. It can be made quite 'elegant' and professional looking with heat shrink tubing. 73, Don W3FPR Julius Fazekas wrote: > I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS is > not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to > use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 02/16/09 > 06:55:00 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
Hi Julius: I'm using #8 in my mobile installation and had to get it down to a more suitable gauge for the APP connectors. I made a couple butt-joint connectors from short (1") lengths of brass 'hobby tubing' obtained at the local hardware store. I took a short piece of the #8 wire with me and selected the smallest diameter of brass tubing that would still accommodate the stripped #8 wire. I then cut two 1" lengths, inserted one #8 wire (stripped to show 1/2" of wire into the tubing, flowed more than ample solder in from the other end. Let it cool while I did the other conductor. Returned to tube #1 and heated it back up while gently inserting the 1/2"-stripped end of my #10 wire (which does fit the APP 45A connector). Let solder set and cover with a 1-1/2" length of heatshrink and yer good to go! Works like a champ. I could have used 'real' #8 butt-join connectors, but they were too large and 'clunky' for my liking... the brass hobby tubing works great, and it'll handle well over the 20A-30A needed by most rigs and accessories. 73, Tom N0SS At 07:46 02/16/2009, Julius Fazekas wrote: >I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to >the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means >to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > >Thanks, > >Julius Fazekas >N2WN > >Tennessee Contest Group >TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > >Elecraft K2/100 #4455 >Elecraft K3/100 #366 >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter
I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? Thanks, Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
