[Elecraft] K3 Wish List -XIT Tell-tale

2012-01-02 Thread Tom Boucher
Wayne, the annoyance factor could be reduced by ANDing the flashing 'Delta-F' 
light with the red 'Tx' light. That way it would only flash a warning when 
transmitting.

Thaty's what I like about Elecraft, an instant response even on Sunday 1st 
January!

73
Tom G3OLB

N6KR wrote: That said, I'll add to my  
list consideration of flashing the XIT icon and/or the Delta-F LED. I  
have to be careful with such changes because of unintended side  
effects and the annoyance factor.
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[Elecraft] K3 Wish List - XIT tell-tale

2012-01-01 Thread Tom Boucher
I guess Elecraft are now beyond wanting to make relatively minor changes to the 
K3 as it is now a mature product, but how about this? On two occasions recently 
I have been in QSO with a weak distant station on 160 or 80 and a very loud EU 
has come up on the same frequency with a QRL? On my reply of 'R Pse QSY' the 
other station ignores me and begins a long and loud CQ thus wiping out the one 
I'm trying to work. Both times I established that the interfering station was 
using a K3 and had inadvertently left the 'XIT' function on, thus transmitting 
on a different frequency to that he was listening on. 

The yellow 'delta f' tell-tale LED is there to tell you that either the RIT or 
XIT function is on, but if you are already using the RIT function, there is 
nothing to tell you that XIT is also on. Would it be a simple firmware mod to 
make the lamp flash on and off when XIT is active?

73
Tom G3OLB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List - XIT tell-tale

2012-01-01 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Tom,

There are LCD icons for both RIT and XIT. XIT is rarely used, and  
you'd think that those who do use it would be motivated to keep an eye  
on both the XIT icon and the Delta-F LED. That said, I'll add to my  
list consideration of flashing the XIT icon and/or the Delta-F LED. I  
have to be careful with such changes because of unintended side  
effects and the annoyance factor. It would certainly need a menu entry  
for disabling this behavior.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Tom Boucher wrote:

 I guess Elecraft are now beyond wanting to make relatively minor  
 changes to the K3 as it is now a mature product, but how about this?  
 On two occasions recently I have been in QSO with a weak distant  
 station on 160 or 80 and a very loud EU has come up on the same  
 frequency with a QRL? On my reply of 'R Pse QSY' the other station  
 ignores me and begins a long and loud CQ thus wiping out the one I'm  
 trying to work. Both times I established that the interfering  
 station was using a K3 and had inadvertently left the 'XIT' function  
 on, thus transmitting on a different frequency to that he was  
 listening on.

 The yellow 'delta f' tell-tale LED is there to tell you that either  
 the RIT or XIT function is on, but if you are already using the RIT  
 function, there is nothing to tell you that XIT is also on. Would it  
 be a simple firmware mod to make the lamp flash on and off when XIT  
 is active?

 73
 Tom G3OLB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List - XIT tell-tale

2012-01-01 Thread Jessie Oberreuter

   It's always fabulous to hear that kind of consideration, Wayne! 
Apropos to the perfect pitch discussion a few weeks back, I suffer/enjoy 
audio/visual synesthesia, and blinking things annoy the crap out of me!


On Sun, 1 Jan 2012, Wayne Burdick wrote:

 Hi Tom,

 There are LCD icons for both RIT and XIT. XIT is rarely used, and
 you'd think that those who do use it would be motivated to keep an eye
 on both the XIT icon and the Delta-F LED. That said, I'll add to my
 list consideration of flashing the XIT icon and/or the Delta-F LED. I
 have to be careful with such changes because of unintended side
 effects and the annoyance factor. It would certainly need a menu entry
 for disabling this behavior.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Tom Boucher wrote:

 I guess Elecraft are now beyond wanting to make relatively minor
 changes to the K3 as it is now a mature product, but how about this?
 On two occasions recently I have been in QSO with a weak distant
 station on 160 or 80 and a very loud EU has come up on the same
 frequency with a QRL? On my reply of 'R Pse QSY' the other station
 ignores me and begins a long and loud CQ thus wiping out the one I'm
 trying to work. Both times I established that the interfering
 station was using a K3 and had inadvertently left the 'XIT' function
 on, thus transmitting on a different frequency to that he was
 listening on.

 The yellow 'delta f' tell-tale LED is there to tell you that either
 the RIT or XIT function is on, but if you are already using the RIT
 function, there is nothing to tell you that XIT is also on. Would it
 be a simple firmware mod to make the lamp flash on and off when XIT
 is active?

 73
 Tom G3OLB
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[Elecraft] K3 Wish list

2009-09-12 Thread wa6riv
I feel for you Eric and the group. There's always a wish or request. It will 
never end. But I am the happiest now with my radio than ever.

Wish Item:  When setting Noise Reduction. I prefer 4-1 for CW and 8-1 for SSB. 
Could you have 8-x followed by 4-x? In other words. Have the selections cylcle. 
from 4-x to 8-x and as the knob contuines in the same direction 4-x appears. 
When in SSB,I don't have go counter clockwise to get to 4-x for CW.  Ted WP4CW
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[Elecraft] K3 wish list

2008-11-04 Thread Ralph Tyrrell

When in REPEAT mode sending a CW message use the last 2 letter positions 
(REPExx) to down count to start of next transmission.

To have the ability to use a PF switch to toggle power from 5 Watts to some 
higher power, probably 80 Watts.

Have the K3 control switching between 1:1 and 4:1 on the BL-3. Where is the 
BL-3?


Having a wonderful time with the K3, mostly CW, some SSB. Want to get into RTTY 
and PSK31. Have not made these work yet.

73, Ty, W1TF  K3/100 #696  uC 02.46  d1 01.92


  
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[Elecraft] [K3] Wish list: Audio in configuration

2008-10-21 Thread dj7mgq

Hi,

maybe I've missed something in the manual/release notes...

I think it would be nice to be able to configure the audio input on a  
mode by mode basis, or at least be able to set up one audio in  
configuration for speach modes and one for the data modes.


vy 73 de toby

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of 
having to overwrite these memories.  Please consider putting this on 
the list.


Why, Roy?  Surely if you do not want to use the PF1 and PF2 buttons you 
could just fill them with the firmware versions.  Leaving them blank 
does not serve any useful purpose and I do feel there are other things 
on the list that could be given higher priority.


Please tell us the reason you need PF1 and PF2 to be blank.

73
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread Brett Howard
I agree...  But when I asked for the ability to erase memories Wayne
told me he didn't understand why I would want that ability when I could
just over write the memory location with something else.  But when he
made it so a lot of people started taking a lot more liberties with
memories and really liked that new feature.  

Personally I'm more for being able to NULL out CW memories but I suppose
I can always just set them to only send E.  

Granted there are much higher priority things and so far I've been very
pleased with Wayne's prioritizing so I'm content to just leave things in
his hands.  Although I do hope that now that the Sub RX is on its way to
becoming an item that the DVR isn't too far off. :)

~Brett (KC7OTG)

On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 07:34 +0100, David Pratt wrote:
 In a recent message, Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
 I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of 
 having to overwrite these memories.  Please consider putting this on 
 the list.
 
 Why, Roy?  Surely if you do not want to use the PF1 and PF2 buttons you 
 could just fill them with the firmware versions.  Leaving them blank 
 does not serve any useful purpose and I do feel there are other things 
 on the list that could be given higher priority.
 
 Please tell us the reason you need PF1 and PF2 to be blank.
 
 73

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread Steef PA2A

I have a few minor things for the wish list too.

- a separate on/off  possibility to save more parameters for each band and 
antenna such as:

- ATU / bypass
- power level
- PA out (not available)

I also would like to have the DATA MD menu setting behave like the TEXT DEC 
setting for CW. Turning to the left should always have the same value, DATA 
A or so, and turning to the right should maybe result in 31 BPS PSK. The 
TEXT DEC setting for data modes could also be left OFF and right ON.


73 's Steef PA2A
K2 #4654
K3 #1184

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:12 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List



Wayne,
I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of 
having to overwrite these memories.  Please consider putting this on the 
list.  Thanks  Roy Morris  W4WFB

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread Carl Clawson
I'm with Roy. If I have a system in state A and I fiddle with it and get it
into state B, I want to be able to get back to A. Even if the difference is
trivial and doesn't matter in the slightest. Is there a good reason for
this? No. It's likely a mild form of obsessive compulsive disorder. I should
probably be seen by a psychiatrist.

Or it could be that I've dealt with so much software over the years, with
all kinds of bizarre interactions between seemingly unrelated things, that I
no longer believe that there is such a thing as an unimportant difference.

And by the way, should anal retentive be spelled with a hyphen?

73/WS7L

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Pratt
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:35 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List
 
 In a recent message, Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
 I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of 
 having to overwrite these memories.  Please consider putting this on 
 the list.
 
 Why, Roy?  Surely if you do not want to use the PF1 and PF2 
 buttons you could just fill them with the firmware versions.  
 Leaving them blank does not serve any useful purpose and I do 
 feel there are other things on the list that could be given 
 higher priority.
 
 Please tell us the reason you need PF1 and PF2 to be blank.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread Pete Spotts

Carl Clawson wrote:


...And by the way, should anal retentive be spelled with a hyphen?
  

Probably only as an adjective... ;-)

Pete

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[Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-08 Thread Roy Morris
Wayne,
I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of having to 
overwrite these memories.  Please consider putting this on the list.  Thanks  
Roy Morris  W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display

2008-05-01 Thread Björn Mohr
On 080430 5:05 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bob,
  
 I don't think your concerns are warranted. The LCD is an array of  transistor
 switches which affect the transmission of light by polarizing effects  of
 their electrostatic field. The actual light is provided by backlighting from
 light emitting diodes which are well known for their longevity.
  
 The Day mode will shut off the LED backlights on the LCD, but unfortunately
 it also ups the level of brightness for the LEDs on the controls. That would
 seem to be a simple fix in the firmware.
  
 Al WA6VNN
 
I have recently got a comment from Wayne about this as it is on my wish list
of things for future enhancements of the K3, he didn't seem to exited about
it. (my other 3 requests are all in the next or future firmware, I guess
they where more popular requests).

I agree that this is not a question about lifetime of the backlight, to me
it is more important to be able to use the radio in stealth mode when
operating remote. I also find it useful when leaving the radio on overnight
to use the band opening as an alarm clock.

Wayne was very happy to receive my wish list in private mail, I think it is
a good idea to use private email for any request you are serious about as it
otherwise might drown in the reflector noise.

73 de Björn /SM0MDG


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display

2008-04-30 Thread David Woolley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I don't think your concerns are warranted. The LCD is an array of  transistor 
switches which affect the transmission of light by polarizing effects  of 


The sort of LCD display used on the K2, and I believe the K3, doesn't 
have any active components (such as transistors) on the display.


their electrostatic field. The actual light is provided by backlighting from  
light emitting diodes which are well known for their longevity.


When I first saw this thread, I assumed it was about wearing out the 
liquid crystals, not about the back light.  Actually driving the liquid 
crystals will eventually wear them out, as it is not possible to 
completely avoid DC components in the drive (LCDs are driven by AC 
(acutally complex waveforms that average to zero DC for both selected 
and non-selected elements) to avoid elecrolysing the liquid crystals.


I'd therefore say, don't worry about the backlight, except on power 
consumption grounds; it is the display itself you may want to power down.


 
The Day mode will shut off the LED backlights on the LCD, but unfortunately  
it also ups the level of brightness for the LEDs on the controls. That would  
seem to be a simple fix in the firmware.
 
Al WA6VNN
 
 
In a message dated 4/27/2008 7:06:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I increasingly like to operate remote, especially  when traveling.
This can sometimes mean that the rig is turned on for several  days.
I have some concern about burn-out of the LCD display in areas  where  
it remains unchanged for long periods.
Maybe this is an  unjustified worry, but it would be good to have the  
option to simply  turn off the display when using remote operation, or  
even when  operating the rig from a PC in the shack.


Bob,  G3YIQ

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[Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to toggle between two power levels

2008-04-30 Thread Benny Aumala

Running plenty of QRP and QRPP but also 100W,
I would like to toggle between two adjustable power levels.
PF1 or 2 could do that?
The TUNE was changed and this option might be as easy.
Wish to see this on the list.

My K3 is a dream to work with. Congrats to Elecraft team!

Benny  OH9NB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display

2008-04-29 Thread AJSOENKE
Bob,
 
I don't think your concerns are warranted. The LCD is an array of  transistor 
switches which affect the transmission of light by polarizing effects  of 
their electrostatic field. The actual light is provided by backlighting from  
light emitting diodes which are well known for their longevity.
 
The Day mode will shut off the LED backlights on the LCD, but unfortunately  
it also ups the level of brightness for the LEDs on the controls. That would  
seem to be a simple fix in the firmware.
 
Al WA6VNN
 
 
In a message dated 4/27/2008 7:06:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I increasingly like to operate remote, especially  when traveling.
This can sometimes mean that the rig is turned on for several  days.
I have some concern about burn-out of the LCD display in areas  where  
it remains unchanged for long periods.
Maybe this is an  unjustified worry, but it would be good to have the  
option to simply  turn off the display when using remote operation, or  
even when  operating the rig from a PC in the shack.

Bob,  G3YIQ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display

2008-04-28 Thread George Victor
To save power?

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Phil Theis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This would be a great addition to the product.
  Phil K3(352)TUF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display

2008-04-28 Thread Phil Theis
Power was a consideration, but I just discovered the 'DAY' selection was 
what I was after, no light in a dark room.

I believe we already have what I was looking for.
Phil
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To save power?

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Phil Theis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This would be a great addition to the product.
 Phil K3(352)TUF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display

2008-04-28 Thread Björn Mohr
Phil,

The problem with the currently available daylight option is that it makes
the LEDs light up on full strength.

I have this option on my wish list, I believe it is very useful to be able
to turn the display off when  monitoring for openings overnight.

73 de Björn /SM0MDG


On 080428 13:44 , Phil Theis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Power was a consideration, but I just discovered the 'DAY' selection was
 what I was after, no light in a dark room.
 I believe we already have what I was looking for.
 Phil
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 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display
 
 
 To save power?
 
 On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Phil Theis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This would be a great addition to the product.
  Phil K3(352)TUF
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[Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display

2008-04-27 Thread Bob Jones

I increasingly like to operate remote, especially when traveling.
This can sometimes mean that the rig is turned on for several days.
I have some concern about burn-out of the LCD display in areas where  
it remains unchanged for long periods.
Maybe this is an unjustified worry, but it would be good to have the  
option to simply turn off the display when using remote operation, or  
even when operating the rig from a PC in the shack.


Bob, G3YIQ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display

2008-04-27 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Bob Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
I have some concern about burn-out of the LCD display in areas where it 
remains unchanged for long periods.

[snip]
but it would be good to have the  option to simply turn off the 
display when using remote operation, or  even when operating the rig 
from a PC in the shack.


That would be a good idea, Bob.  LCD ADJ does down to 2 but perhaps zero 
could be used to switch the contrast off altogether.  LCD BRT can show 
DAY which turns the backlight off.


73
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display

2008-04-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bob,

Steve Jackson KZ1X would be the best to respond to your concern.  I 
understand that Steve has never turned his K2 off except for periods of 
upgrading and alignements.  His K2 is at least 6 years old and I believe 
is still going strong.


73,
Don W3FPR

Bob Jones wrote:

I increasingly like to operate remote, especially when traveling.
This can sometimes mean that the rig is turned on for several days.
I have some concern about burn-out of the LCD display in areas where 
it remains unchanged for long periods.
Maybe this is an unjustified worry, but it would be good to have the 
option to simply turn off the display when using remote operation, or 
even when operating the rig from a PC in the shack.


Bob, G3YIQ


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[Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display

2008-04-27 Thread Phil Theis
This would be a great addition to the product.
Phil K3(352)TUF
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[Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-03-10 Thread Cranz Nichols

Please add my vote for this.

Tnx
WB5BKL
K3 #231


- Original Message - 

Message: 32
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:23:36 -0400
From: Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


snip
It would also be nice if non-ham band frequencies could be blocked from 
entering the ham band registers.  Thanks.  Roy Morris  W4WFB  K3 #323



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[Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-03-09 Thread Roy Morris
It would be nice to be able to erase entries from memory channels rather than 
having to overwrite them.  I have entered a local broadcast station into one of 
the memories.  When I transfer it to the VFO, it takes the place of the 160 
meter band.  I have to manually load a 160 meter frequency to get the band 
back.  To get around this problem I overwrote the broadcast station memory with 
a ham band frequency.  Please consider a firmware change that would permit 
erasing entries.  It would also be nice if non-ham band frequencies could be 
blocked from entering the ham band registers.  Thanks.  Roy Morris  W4WFB  K3 
#323
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[Fwd: [Elecraft] K3 wish list]

2007-11-16 Thread AB2TC - Knut

Hi all,

(This is a resend with the correct subject this time)

I have a different scenario. I like the concept of locating the tuner
close to the antenna and controlling it remotely (the only control I
need is Tune!). So what I need at the transceiver is the ability to
start a carrier at reduced power (10W regardless of power and mode
setting) and provide a tune command to the tuner (just a pulse on a
logic output will do). Will the K3 support this? For the record I am
doing this today with my IC-718's Tuner button with a bit of external
hardware hooked up to the tuner port of the transceiver. The remote
tuner is a MFJ-929 modded to externally control the Tune button. Believe
me, MFJ makes really good auto tuners.

73 AB2TC - Knut

The ability to control an external ATU is very important for those of use
who will also be using a high power auto-tuner after an amplifier.
Eric/Wayne have said that this is on the list for a future release.  What
would make sense (to me) would be:

1) External auto-tuner sends keying signal to K3 when high SWR or manual
start-tuning button is pushed.
2) K3 reverts to a low power (10 watt) CW signal for tuning, and DOES NOT
key the amplifier as long as the external tuner keying signal is applied.
3) Once tuner finishes tuning, external keying signal goes away, K3 reverts
to normal power/mode, and K3 will again be able to key external amplifier.

Just my humble opinion.

Phil - AD5X


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RE: [Fwd: [Elecraft] K3 wish list]

2007-11-16 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
I wouldn't suggest that the tuner accuate the rig to go into a mode and
transmit.


Regards,
Dick - KA5KKT/4 

-Original Message-

1) External auto-tuner sends keying signal to K3 when high SWR or

Phil - AD5X


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[Fwd: [Elecraft] K3 wish list]

2007-11-16 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
I wouldn't suggest that the tuner accuate the rig to go into a mode and
transmit.  Regards, Dick - KA5KKT/4 

-Original Message-

1) External auto-tuner sends keying signal to K3 when high SWR or... Phil -
AD5X
 
That's the way most work.  You have to be transmitting for the tuner to
realize that the SWR has passed a pre-set value that you've set.  So when
you hit this SWR value, the tuner initiates the tune.  Of course, you can
turn off the auto-tune, and only have the tuner tune when you want it to by
pushing the TUNE button.  Phil - AD5X



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RE: [Fwd: [Elecraft] K3 wish list]

2007-11-16 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Good luck with petitioning Elecraft!


Regards,
Dick - KA5KKT/4

-Original Message-
I wouldn't suggest that the tuner accuate the rig to go into a mode and
transmit.  Regards, Dick - KA5KKT/4 

-Original Message-

1) External auto-tuner sends keying signal to K3 when high SWR or... Phil -
AD5X
 
That's the way most work.  You have to be transmitting for the tuner to
realize that the SWR has passed a pre-set value that you've set.  So when
you hit this SWR value, the tuner initiates the tune.  Of course, you can
turn off the auto-tune, and only have the tuner tune when you want it to by
pushing the TUNE button.  Phil - AD5X

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-14 Thread Julian G4ILO
On Nov 13, 2007 8:43 PM, Craig Rairdin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pardon my ignorance but I don't understand how your station layout would be
 improved with an external ATU. The KAT3 occupies the same space inside the
 K3 as the KANT3. An external tuner would result in more, not less, space
 being taken outside the radio (albeit remotely mounted), plus you'd have
 another cable to route.

 There may be something about having a 6m beam that works better with a
 remote ATU and that's fine -- I just don't understand how this is all driven
 by limited desk space. The same amount of desk space is taken up with the
 ATU inside the K3 as outside.

I think you're missing the point. Many people with limited situations
have to make do with antennas that are not resonant on some bands. In
that situation it is much better to have the tuner close to the
antenna feed point.

Many people in limited situations may also have restrictions such as
only able to get one or two thin cables into the shack. The remote
switching suggested by Alan would allow two antennas to share the same
feeder coming in to the shack.

If a product was available that offered these features with the same
operating convenience you get with an internal ATU then I'd join those
who have already said they'd buy it.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-14 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

On Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:53 AM, Julian G4ILO wrote:


If a product was available that offered these features with the same
operating convenience you get with an internal ATU then I'd join those
who have already said they'd buy it.


Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by an 
antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays clattering 
away at 2am could upset the neighbours! Far better is the 'purr' of a motor 
driven capacitor used in an 'old fashioned' link coupled matching unit, 
nevertheless I have mine in a soundproofed box.


My wish is that the designers of commercial tuners would allow tuning to be 
achieved with milliwatts of RF rather than watts, which is feasible. IMHO 
tuning with RF levels above a few milliwatts erp is anti-social in terms of 
QRM.


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-14 Thread Julian G4ILO
On Nov 14, 2007 12:51 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by an
 antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays clattering
 away at 2am could upset the neighbours!

Your neighbours must have thin walls, or very sensitive ears, and you
must live in a very quiet location. :)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-14 Thread Nick Waterman
Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:
 Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by
 an antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays
 clattering away at 2am could upset the neighbours!

... but to be fair, that's only when you press TUNE for the first time
on a new antenna, right? After that, most modern ATUs will remember the
settings for different bands, or different parts of bands, and when you
QSY significantly it's usually just one click to get back to the
remembered settings?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-14 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
I agree, but as an example if I am on 40m at some ridiculous hour I would be 
working CW at the low end and SSB between 7140 and 7197 kHz, which I believe 
could result in a fair number of clicks during the night when using an all 
driven array with the type of ATU you have in mind. I guess that what I am 
saying is 'don't forget the sleeping neighbours' :-)


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD

Nick Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:

Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by
an antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays
clattering away at 2am could upset the neighbours!


... but to be fair, that's only when you press TUNE for the first time
on a new antenna, right? After that, most modern ATUs will remember the
settings for different bands, or different parts of bands, and when you
QSY significantly it's usually just one click to get back to the
remembered settings?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-14 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Thick walls built in 1814, neighbours (3) about 50 metres away, sensitive 
ears - don't know, location very quiet RF and acoustic, BUT very noisy 
pheasant who get up at some unholy hour who don't bother the neighbours it 
seems. Relays would introduce an alien sound :-)


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD

Julian G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Your neighbours must have thin walls, or very sensitive ears, and you
must live in a very quiet location. :)


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Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-14 Thread d.cutter
My only problem with motorised units is the screwdriver type antennas.  They 
make a heck of a racket and this is the only reason I don't have that type on 
my property.  I had one on my car for a short while and it's quite 
disconcerting hearing it winding up and down.  

David
G3UNA

 
 From: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/11/14 Wed PM 12:51:09 GMT
 To: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
 
 On Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:53 AM, Julian G4ILO wrote:
 
  If a product was available that offered these features with the same
  operating convenience you get with an internal ATU then I'd join those
  who have already said they'd buy it.
 
 Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by an 
 antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays clattering 
 away at 2am could upset the neighbours! Far better is the 'purr' of a motor 
 driven capacitor used in an 'old fashioned' link coupled matching unit, 
 nevertheless I have mine in a soundproofed box.
 
 My wish is that the designers of commercial tuners would allow tuning to be 
 achieved with milliwatts of RF rather than watts, which is feasible. IMHO 
 tuning with RF levels above a few milliwatts erp is anti-social in terms of 
 QRM.
 
 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-14 Thread AJSOENKE
And then there's the frogs! The ant tuner will shut them all up for a few 
minutes!  
 
Of course, there is always the possibility of using a feedline that is 
matched to the antenna and good grounds etc. I've been runnning a vertical made 
by 
Mosely back in the late 1950's, with 80 feet of RG-8. Unfortunately it is only 
a 4 band 40 - 10 no WARC, BUT it'll tune all 4 bands to under 1.5:1 and no 
need for tuners. The dipole is another story.
 
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[Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-13 Thread ALANG8FMH
As a newcomer to major Elecraft items I hope it is not presumptuous of me  to 
add to the wish list. My small station layout means that a remote ATU is much 
 more effective than an inboard one. Therefor the tuning part of the KAT3 as 
an  external unit (with say a 25 to 35 ft power and control cable) AND the  
antenna switching functions transferred to the KANT3 in the main rig would be  
very attractive, especially to accommodate a beam for 6m.  When I get my K3  I 
will be stuck with a third party auto ATU and manual switching for 6M.
 
I didn't order till batch three in mid July, so lets hope the $ stays at 2+  
per £ until the New Year. I have been amazed at the close contact available 
via  this reflector. Keep up the good work Eric.
 
Alan G8FMH



   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-13 Thread Mike B
I (and others) have been hoping for something like this since the K2 came out.
Elecraft introduced the T1, which is fine for QRP use, but sometimes you've
gotta crank the power up a bit.

If Elecraft would introduce a remote tuner based on the KAT100 or the KAT3
priced competitively, I think it would sell well.

73,

Mike
KW1ND

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As a newcomer to major Elecraft items I hope it is not presumptuous of me  to 
 add to the wish list. My small station layout means that a remote ATU is much 
  more effective than an inboard one. Therefor the tuning part of the KAT3 as 
 an  external unit (with say a 25 to 35 ft power and control cable) AND the  
 antenna switching functions transferred to the KANT3 in the main rig would be 
  
 very attractive, especially to accommodate a beam for 6m.  When I get my K3  
 I 
 will be stuck with a third party auto ATU and manual switching for 6M.
  
 I didn't order till batch three in mid July, so lets hope the $ stays at 2+  
 per £ until the New Year. I have been amazed at the close contact available 
 via  this reflector. Keep up the good work Eric.
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-13 Thread Craig Rairdin
 My small station layout means that a remote ATU is much 
 more effective than an inboard one. Therefor the tuning part of the 
 KAT3 as an  external unit (with say a 25 to 35 ft power and control 
 cable) AND the  antenna switching functions transferred to the KANT3 
 in the main rig would be very attractive, especially to accommodate 
 a beam for 6m.

Pardon my ignorance but I don't understand how your station layout would be
improved with an external ATU. The KAT3 occupies the same space inside the
K3 as the KANT3. An external tuner would result in more, not less, space
being taken outside the radio (albeit remotely mounted), plus you'd have
another cable to route.

There may be something about having a 6m beam that works better with a
remote ATU and that's fine -- I just don't understand how this is all driven
by limited desk space. The same amount of desk space is taken up with the
ATU inside the K3 as outside.

Craig
NZ0R 
K3/100 #25

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[Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-13 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
The ability to control an external ATU is very important for those of use
who will also be using a high power auto-tuner after an amplifier.
Eric/Wayne have said that this is on the list for a future release.  What
would make sense (to me) would be:

1) External auto-tuner sends keying signal to K3 when high SWR or manual
start-tuning button is pushed.
2) K3 reverts to a low power (10 watt) CW signal for tuning, and DOES NOT
key the amplifier as long as the external tuner keying signal is applied.
3) Once tuner finishes tuning, external keying signal goes away, K3 reverts
to normal power/mode, and K3 will again be able to key external amplifier.

Just my humble opinion.

Phil - AD5X

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 wish list

2007-11-13 Thread Craig D. Smith
Another for sure sale here!!!

   ... Craig  AC0DS

 If Elecraft would introduce a remote tuner based on the KAT100 or the
KAT3
 priced competitively, I think it would sell well.


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