Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[KM4VX]

Thanks to all for the interesting ideas. I am now using the KX3 I/Q output to
my PC line in (works equally well to mic input in rear) and the simple NaP3
software. Works great for panadapter and controlling the rig. I have ordered 
the  inexpensive  iMic soundcard to see if there will  be any difference. I
tried the HDSDR and other free software programs out there,  but in the
absence of operation manuals I found the screen for the HDSDR panadapter
incomprehensible (full disclosure here;could not relate all the differfent
lines and screens to anything useful for me anyway) Now that I have solved
my problem I will probably never use it since I find using a PC to run a
panadapter a waste of space and resources. Look forward to one day seeing an
adapter for the KX3-P3 combo, and I see many others out here would also make
the same investment. I do not go portable with my KX3 but enjoy QRP and the
radio. 73 Ron



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Richard Fjeld]

I'm curious as to the band width of the pan-adapter display when you do this?

Dick, n0ce

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Ellis 
  To: Chris Tate - N6WM 
  Cc: Edward R Cole ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net ; e...@elecraft.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter


  That is exactly how it works for me... Works with iPad or iPhone. I am
  using the lighting version of the camera adapter with my iPad Mini even.

  Jeff, K7GDE

  On Wednesday, May 22, 2013, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:

  > Forgive me if this was previously shared.. Just curious about this
  > interface.. IQ out > Griffin IMIC > Camera USB adapter > Ipad   ??  this
  > would make a cool field panadapter...  maybe even with an Iphone.
  >
  > ~Chris
  > N6WM
  >
  > 
  > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  [
  > elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net ] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz
  > - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [e...@elecraft.com ]
  > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:04 AM
  > To: Edward R Cole
  > Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter
  >
  > We were showing an iPad running iSDR for the panadapter with the Griffin
  > iMic audio interface between the iPad and the KX3's IQ output.
  >
  > 73,
  >
  > Eric
  > elecraft.com
  >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Bill Conkling]

My computer has stero lineIn, but mono mic.  I found that the iMIC worked
great for this use.  I originally got it for the iPAD, but works with the PC
as well.

...bill  nr4c

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:47 PM
To: KM4VX
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

Ron,

Try using the Mic In on your soundcard.  The I/Q signal levels are 
rather low.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2013 4:27 PM, KM4VX wrote:
> Must be some interest in the topic!!  I have a line connected from the I/Q
> output of the KX3 (with the menu ON) into my PC sound card, line in.
Nothing
> happens using the HDSDR software on the waterfall although I can control
the
> KX3. Not receiving signals, just noise. Question: What sound cards are
> people finding useful? My generic Realistic PC sound card is apparently
> inadequate. The Creative Labs E MU0202 which is popular seems out of stock
> most places. While I would prefer a P3 setup, that doesn't look like its
> going to happen so I would like to abuse my PC a bit  and try out what is
> available now. Thanks
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Don Wilhelm]

Ron,

Try using the Mic In on your soundcard.  The I/Q signal levels are 
rather low.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2013 4:27 PM, KM4VX wrote:

Must be some interest in the topic!!  I have a line connected from the I/Q
output of the KX3 (with the menu ON) into my PC sound card, line in. Nothing
happens using the HDSDR software on the waterfall although I can control the
KX3. Not receiving signals, just noise. Question: What sound cards are
people finding useful? My generic Realistic PC sound card is apparently
inadequate. The Creative Labs E MU0202 which is popular seems out of stock
most places. While I would prefer a P3 setup, that doesn't look like its
going to happen so I would like to abuse my PC a bit  and try out what is
available now. Thanks



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Mark Petiford]

Even with a cheap soundcard, you should be able to see something other than 
noise...unless the band is dead.  Can you tune around the band and hear signals 
on the KX3?  If not, you aren't going to see anything on the PC.  A lower 
quality soundcard should not limit WHAT is displayed, but it will probably 
display things that aren't really there as a result of ground loops, dc-offset 
in the card, etc.  Those thing usually don't move as you tune the KX3 since 
they are introduced downstream of the radio.  Real RF signals will move as you 
re-tune the radio.

I don't use HDSDR, but have in the past using Softrock radios.  Getting it set 
up properly can be difficult because it has lots of options.  I was active in 
the Softrock Yahoo group several years ago, and most everyone would use Rocky 
SDR software (www.dxatlas.com/Rocky) to get their radios up and running.  If 
you can get Rocky to access the soundcard (it requires exclusive access), then 
it will faithfully display what it sees at the mic or line input of the PC.  It 
is a rock solid program  with a really great frequency 
domain display.  Unfortunately, it can't control the KX3, so I use it as a pan 
adapter only with FLDIGI as my main program (they both run at the same time).


A good way to test is with a separate signal source rather than relying on 
signals on the bands.  I use an old Norcal signal generator which generates 
signals every 5 khz.  When I see these signals, and they move when I tune the 
radio, I know I am demodulating the IQ stream.


Don't hesitate to come back hear and ask more questions.  I am sure some of the 
folks using HDSDR can help...or give Rocky a try.

Mark
KE6BB




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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter
 
... Not receiving signals, just noise. Question: What sound cards are
people finding useful? My generic Realistic PC sound card is apparently
inadequate... 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[KM4VX]

Must be some interest in the topic!!  I have a line connected from the I/Q
output of the KX3 (with the menu ON) into my PC sound card, line in. Nothing
happens using the HDSDR software on the waterfall although I can control the
KX3. Not receiving signals, just noise. Question: What sound cards are
people finding useful? My generic Realistic PC sound card is apparently
inadequate. The Creative Labs E MU0202 which is popular seems out of stock
most places. While I would prefer a P3 setup, that doesn't look like its
going to happen so I would like to abuse my PC a bit  and try out what is
available now. Thanks



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Christian AK4VV]

Eric,

Do you have a recommendation for isolating the audio lines when operating
portable?  In the past, I have had issues getting noise around  center freq
particularly.

Homebrew, DIY, don't care. Looking for small, lightweight and effective.

Thank you!

73,
Christian
AK4VV
 On May 22, 2013 1:04 PM, "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <
e...@elecraft.com> wrote:

> We were showing an iPad running iSDR for the panadapter with the Griffin
> iMic audio interface between the iPad and the KX3's IQ output.
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
> elecraft.com
>
> On 5/22/2013 8:45 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>
>> Eric and all:
>>
>> I recall seeing a KX3 at the Elecraft Booth running a spectrum display
>> with a tablet and thought: "When was this added?".  I guess this is the
>> HDSDR or iSDR sw panadapter?
>>
>> Even though I use many soundcard based sw, there lurks many more round
>> the corner, apparently.
>>
>> Speaking of such, I would love to hear recommendations of sw that run
>> psk-31 on the K3.  I have mine fully integrated with my computer Dell 2.33
>> duo-core, XP32-SP3.  USB/RS232 conversion cable from Elecraft is used.
>>
>> I am also interested in psk-31 sw that will run under win-8 pro to use
>> with my KX3 at FD.
>>
>> Sorry, wandered far from the original topic.
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Walter Underwood]

https://www.google.com/search?q=android+sdr

wunder
K6WRU

On May 22, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197 wrote:

> Is there an Android equivalent?
> 73, doug
> 
> On 22-May-13 17:04, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
>> We were showing an iPad running iSDR for the panadapter with the Griffin
>> iMic audio interface between the iPad and the KX3's IQ output.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Eric
>> elecraft.com
>> 
>> On 5/22/2013 8:45 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>>> Eric and all:
>>> 
>>> I recall seeing a KX3 at the Elecraft Booth running a spectrum display
>>> with a tablet and thought: "When was this added?".  I guess this is
>>> the HDSDR or iSDR sw panadapter?
>>> 
>>> Even though I use many soundcard based sw, there lurks many more round
>>> the corner, apparently.
>>> 
>>> Speaking of such, I would love to hear recommendations of sw that run
>>> psk-31 on the K3.  I have mine fully integrated with my computer Dell
>>> 2.33 duo-core, XP32-SP3.  USB/RS232 conversion cable from Elecraft is
>>> used.
>>> 
>>> I am also interested in psk-31 sw that will run under win-8 pro to use
>>> with my KX3 at FD.
>>> 
>>> Sorry, wandered far from the original topic.
>>> 
>>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Chris Tate - N6WM]

Thanks Jeff.  Ill hit up Amazon for the parts..  This is really worth giving a 
whirl..  battery powered mini pan adapter with KX3..   very cool.

~C./N6WM


From: Jeff Ellis [driftenli...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:54 AM
To: Chris Tate - N6WM
Cc: e...@elecraft.com; Edward R Cole; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

That is exactly how it works for me... Works with iPad or iPhone. I am using 
the lighting version of the camera adapter with my iPad Mini even.

Jeff, K7GDE

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:
Forgive me if this was previously shared.. Just curious about this interface.. 
IQ out > Griffin IMIC > Camera USB adapter > Ipad   ??  this would make a cool 
field panadapter...  maybe even with an Iphone.

~Chris
N6WM


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

We were showing an iPad running iSDR for the panadapter with the Griffin
iMic audio interface between the iPad and the KX3's IQ output.

73,

Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197]

Is there an Android equivalent?
73, doug

On 22-May-13 17:04, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

We were showing an iPad running iSDR for the panadapter with the Griffin
iMic audio interface between the iPad and the KX3's IQ output.

73,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 5/22/2013 8:45 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:

Eric and all:

I recall seeing a KX3 at the Elecraft Booth running a spectrum display
with a tablet and thought: "When was this added?".  I guess this is
the HDSDR or iSDR sw panadapter?

Even though I use many soundcard based sw, there lurks many more round
the corner, apparently.

Speaking of such, I would love to hear recommendations of sw that run
psk-31 on the K3.  I have mine fully integrated with my computer Dell
2.33 duo-core, XP32-SP3.  USB/RS232 conversion cable from Elecraft is
used.

I am also interested in psk-31 sw that will run under win-8 pro to use
with my KX3 at FD.

Sorry, wandered far from the original topic.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Jeff Ellis]

That is exactly how it works for me... Works with iPad or iPhone. I am
using the lighting version of the camera adapter with my iPad Mini even.

Jeff, K7GDE

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:

> Forgive me if this was previously shared.. Just curious about this
> interface.. IQ out > Griffin IMIC > Camera USB adapter > Ipad   ??  this
> would make a cool field panadapter...  maybe even with an Iphone.
>
> ~Chris
> N6WM
>
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  [
> elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net ] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz
> - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [e...@elecraft.com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:04 AM
> To: Edward R Cole
> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter
>
> We were showing an iPad running iSDR for the panadapter with the Griffin
> iMic audio interface between the iPad and the KX3's IQ output.
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
> elecraft.com
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Chris Tate - N6WM]

Forgive me if this was previously shared.. Just curious about this interface.. 
IQ out > Griffin IMIC > Camera USB adapter > Ipad   ??  this would make a cool 
field panadapter...  maybe even with an Iphone.

~Chris
N6WM


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [e...@elecraft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:04 AM
To: Edward R Cole
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

We were showing an iPad running iSDR for the panadapter with the Griffin
iMic audio interface between the iPad and the KX3's IQ output.

73,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 5/22/2013 8:45 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> Eric and all:
>
> I recall seeing a KX3 at the Elecraft Booth running a spectrum display
> with a tablet and thought: "When was this added?".  I guess this is
> the HDSDR or iSDR sw panadapter?
>
> Even though I use many soundcard based sw, there lurks many more round
> the corner, apparently.
>
> Speaking of such, I would love to hear recommendations of sw that run
> psk-31 on the K3.  I have mine fully integrated with my computer Dell
> 2.33 duo-core, XP32-SP3.  USB/RS232 conversion cable from Elecraft is
> used.
>
> I am also interested in psk-31 sw that will run under win-8 pro to use
> with my KX3 at FD.
>
> Sorry, wandered far from the original topic.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

We were showing an iPad running iSDR for the panadapter with the Griffin 
iMic audio interface between the iPad and the KX3's IQ output.


73,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 5/22/2013 8:45 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:

Eric and all:

I recall seeing a KX3 at the Elecraft Booth running a spectrum display 
with a tablet and thought: "When was this added?".  I guess this is 
the HDSDR or iSDR sw panadapter?


Even though I use many soundcard based sw, there lurks many more round 
the corner, apparently.


Speaking of such, I would love to hear recommendations of sw that run 
psk-31 on the K3.  I have mine fully integrated with my computer Dell 
2.33 duo-core, XP32-SP3.  USB/RS232 conversion cable from Elecraft is 
used.


I am also interested in psk-31 sw that will run under win-8 pro to use 
with my KX3 at FD.


Sorry, wandered far from the original topic.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Ha, ha! I'm not an extremist Wes. (Some would say I'm not a purist). 

I greatly enjoy Elecraft gear because it's reliable, compact and stable with
sensitive receivers and transmits a very clean signal that requires no
apologies but, IMX, Ham radio isn't "binary" with one either completely
immersed in the latest equipment or firmly attached to old technology. 

The Hams I know are very "analog", like those old rigs, with our interests
drifting a bit this way and that and infinitely variable in our enjoyment of
the hobby, whether it's top score contesting, tinkering with old gear, or
anything in between. 

My point was that not all of us are like the former although that seems to
be the focus of many on this reflector as they work together solving the
problems of squeezing the most out of their computer and transceiver
combinations.  

Some of us tend toward the latter.

73, Ron AC7AC 


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From: Wes Stewart [mailto:n...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:45 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Ron D'Eau Claire
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

Well then, you better get rid of your Elecraft radios and go back to some
analog stuff with drifting VFOs and best guess frequency dials.

Maybe go way back to some Central Electronics exciters ...

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Edward R Cole]

Eric and all:

I recall seeing a KX3 at the Elecraft Booth running a spectrum 
display with a tablet and thought: "When was this added?".  I guess 
this is the HDSDR or iSDR sw panadapter?


Even though I use many soundcard based sw, there lurks many more 
round the corner, apparently.


Speaking of such, I would love to hear recommendations of sw that run 
psk-31 on the K3.  I have mine fully integrated with my computer Dell 
2.33 duo-core, XP32-SP3.  USB/RS232 conversion cable from Elecraft is used.


I am also interested in psk-31 sw that will run under win-8 pro to 
use with my KX3 at FD.


Sorry, wandered far from the original topic.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Wes Stewart]

Well then, you better get rid of your Elecraft radios and go back to some 
analog stuff with drifting VFOs and best guess frequency dials.

Maybe go way back to some Central Electronics exciters (See the current QST) 
where we converted "Command Set" transmitters to VFOs and went to heroic 
lengths to stabilize them.


--- On Tue, 5/21/13, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:


> It may come as a huge shock to many
> on this e-mail reflector, but there are
> a significant number of us who would rather never see a
> computer in the
> hamshack. Today most of us live with the darn things all day
> every day and
> significant number of us, like yours truly,  enjoy a
> respite from the
> digital world by being Hams, Hi! 
> 
> 73 Ron AC7AC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Mark Petiford]

After being out all evening, I came in and sat down to read my e-mails from the 
Elecraft  reflector and KX3 Yahoo group.  Ron's e-mail below was the last one I 
read, and I said to myself, "YES, good e-mail, Ron!"  I bought my KX3 to use as 
a portable rig in nice relaxed backpack, picnic table, and hotel room 
environments.  I really wanted to get away from computers since I used them for 
everything in my work.  Then I noticed that when I went out, I had left the KX3 
is hooked up to my laptop, running FLDIGI in BPSK31 mode, automatically 
reporting to PSKReporter, andrunning Rocky in a long skinny window below FLDIGI 
as a 96khz wide pan adapter.  I am hooked!  HELP ME!  :-0


This isn't what I bought my KX3 for, but it sure is fun!  Now if I can just get 
it running with iSDR on my iPod Touch using Blue Mikey, I will have a small 
take-along pan adapter.  HELP ME!!!  I CAN"T GIVE IT UP!


Mark
KE6BB




 From: Ron D'Eau Claire 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter
 

It may come as a huge shock to many on this e-mail reflector, but there are
a significant number of us who would rather never see a computer in the
hamshack. Today most of us live with the darn things all day every day and
significant number of us, like yours truly,  enjoy a respite from the
digital world by being Hams, Hi! 

73 Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
..I'd like my KX3 to remain more or less independent from my computer...
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Bill Frantz]

Sounds like a tablet app to me. Where is the Elecraft value 
added over a hardware interface to a tablet and an app?


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 5/22/13 at 9:33 PM, kengk...@gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) wrote:


A "K2-sized" P3-like box ... Elecraft would have my instant order. (:-)


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[georgefritkin]

Funny, new radios are computers.  Just the user interface is different.  
Would you rather have touch screens or voice commandsGeorge, 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Gary Gregory]

And some of us would like to see an end to the seeming-less endless number
of 'boxes' that we have to connect just to have a few niceties...:-)

Black Box Overload.sigh!

:-)

On 22 May 2013 15:11, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:

> It may come as a huge shock to many on this e-mail reflector, but there are
> a significant number of us who would rather never see a computer in the
> hamshack. Today most of us live with the darn things all day every day and
> significant number of us, like yours truly,  enjoy a respite from the
> digital world by being Hams, Hi!
>
> 73 Ron AC7AC
>
> -Original Message-
> ..I'd like my KX3 to remain more or less independent from my computer.  The
> P3 would offer a clean solution for me and hopefully the folks at Elecraft
> will find a way to make that happen for the KX3 owners.
>
> Ok, no worries, just wanted to make sure you were aware of your options.
>
> 73, Matt VK2RQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

It may come as a huge shock to many on this e-mail reflector, but there are
a significant number of us who would rather never see a computer in the
hamshack. Today most of us live with the darn things all day every day and
significant number of us, like yours truly,  enjoy a respite from the
digital world by being Hams, Hi! 

73 Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
..I'd like my KX3 to remain more or less independent from my computer.  The
P3 would offer a clean solution for me and hopefully the folks at Elecraft
will find a way to make that happen for the KX3 owners.

Ok, no worries, just wanted to make sure you were aware of your options.

73, Matt VK2RQ

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Ken G Kopp]

Hear, Hear !

A "K2-sized" P3-like box ... Elecraft would have my instant order. (:-)

73!

Ken - K0PP


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Matt VK2RQ  wrote:

> On 22/05/2013, at 11:31 AM, Alton Barkley  wrote:
>
> > On 5/21/2013 18:25, Matt VK2RQ wrote:
> >> On 22/05/2013, at 2:56 AM, Alton Barkley 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I use my KX3 as a base station.  I operate QRP exclusively so I don't
> need the amp.  I may pick up the FM module.  But I will tell you this.  I'd
> buy an KX3/P3 adapter and a P3 instantly if Elecraft offered that setup for
> sale.
> >> No need to wait or get out the chequebook -- you can hook your KX3 up
> to your PC right now and get a pan adapter display, just like your
> Flexradio. This is what the "RX I/Q" output on the KX3 is for.
> >>
> >> 73, Matt VK2RQ
> > I realize that.  But that's not what I want.  Aside from basic logging
> functions and a few other things, I'd like my KX3 to remain more or less
> independent from my computer.  The P3 would offer a clean solution for me
> and hopefully the folks at Elecraft will find a way to make that happen for
> the KX3 owners.
>
> Ok, no worries, just wanted to make sure you were aware of your options.
>
> 73, Matt VK2RQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Matt VK2RQ]

On 22/05/2013, at 11:31 AM, Alton Barkley  wrote:

> On 5/21/2013 18:25, Matt VK2RQ wrote:
>> On 22/05/2013, at 2:56 AM, Alton Barkley  wrote:
>> 
>>> I use my KX3 as a base station.  I operate QRP exclusively so I don't need 
>>> the amp.  I may pick up the FM module.  But I will tell you this.  I'd buy 
>>> an KX3/P3 adapter and a P3 instantly if Elecraft offered that setup for 
>>> sale.
>> No need to wait or get out the chequebook -- you can hook your KX3 up to 
>> your PC right now and get a pan adapter display, just like your Flexradio. 
>> This is what the "RX I/Q" output on the KX3 is for.
>> 
>> 73, Matt VK2RQ
> I realize that.  But that's not what I want.  Aside from basic logging 
> functions and a few other things, I'd like my KX3 to remain more or less 
> independent from my computer.  The P3 would offer a clean solution for me and 
> hopefully the folks at Elecraft will find a way to make that happen for the 
> KX3 owners.

Ok, no worries, just wanted to make sure you were aware of your options.

73, Matt VK2RQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[W0FK]

Eric or Wayne, assuming the KX3/P3 interface is feasible, is it possible to
build a "PX3"? A small monitor scope, perhaps half the size or less of the
KX3? The P3 isn't what I would call portable. Having something small, even
with less of a feature set than a P3, would make a great travel companion.

73,

Lou, W0FK



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Alton Barkley]

On 5/21/2013 18:25, Matt VK2RQ wrote:

On 22/05/2013, at 2:56 AM, Alton Barkley  wrote:


I use my KX3 as a base station.  I operate QRP exclusively so I don't need the 
amp.  I may pick up the FM module.  But I will tell you this.  I'd buy an 
KX3/P3 adapter and a P3 instantly if Elecraft offered that setup for sale.

No need to wait or get out the chequebook -- you can hook your KX3 up to your PC right 
now and get a pan adapter display, just like your Flexradio. This is what the "RX 
I/Q" output on the KX3 is for.

73, Matt VK2RQ



I realize that.  But that's not what I want.  Aside from basic logging 
functions and a few other things, I'd like my KX3 to remain more or less 
independent from my computer.  The P3 would offer a clean solution for 
me and hopefully the folks at Elecraft will find a way to make that 
happen for the KX3 owners.


A computer upgrade and Windows 7 essentially made a boat anchor out of 
my SDR1000.  I'm not particularly interested in going that route again.  
I'm an Elecraft customer who would like to buy more Elecraft stuff for 
my KX3 and I've got a feeling that I'm not the only person who would be 
willing to add P3 to the stable.  The company should make it happen - 
sooner rather than later.


Best.

Al
VE3OWO

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[bruce . beford]

Understood, Wayne. I recognized that full functionality would require 
more than just the hardware. I (and others) would still like to see 
this developed, as time and resources allow. 
  
 Thanks for your response. 
  

 Bruce
 N1RX

On Tue, 21 May 2013 07:57:20 -0700, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
It's not quite that simple. To be really useful, the KX3 would also 
have to support the special protocol we use between the P3 and K3 that 
keeps track of VFO frequencies, modes, filter bandwidth, etc. There's 
quite a bit of firmware involved. But I agree this would be a nice 
addition. 



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Matt VK2RQ]

On 22/05/2013, at 2:56 AM, Alton Barkley  wrote:

> I use my KX3 as a base station.  I operate QRP exclusively so I don't need 
> the amp.  I may pick up the FM module.  But I will tell you this.  I'd buy an 
> KX3/P3 adapter and a P3 instantly if Elecraft offered that setup for sale.

No need to wait or get out the chequebook -- you can hook your KX3 up to your 
PC right now and get a pan adapter display, just like your Flexradio. This is 
what the "RX I/Q" output on the KX3 is for.

73, Matt VK2RQ

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Well there you go! Mea Culpa. :-)  The internet forgets nothing. I 
apologize for the confusion on this.


Clearly I was the source of the 'rumor' back in 2011.  It is now obvious 
to me that it  is easy in the 'fog of battle' to forget what we may have 
typed in a quick email reply several years ago. I was overly optimistic 
and ahead of our development team on this one. I honestly thought that 
in the past that we had only mentioned we were interested in doing it if 
we had time, but had not committed to it formally as a future product. 
The wide-spread availability of free PC and Apple iOS based s/w 
panadapters like HDSDR and iSDR for the KX3 pushed this further down the 
development priority list over time.


We certainly would like to do this, but have been focused on the other 
key products we have promised (the KXPA100 and KX3 2M option, among 
others). As Wayne pointed out in his email reply, this is both a h/w and 
a significant f/w project, and we do not have infinite engineering 
resources. We're already working overtime here out new products for 
everyone to enjoy.


I can't promise anything definite right now, but we will take a look at 
it again to see what is possible as we get past the product releases for 
the other products mentioned above.


73,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 5/21/2013 9:56 AM, Alton Barkley wrote:


On May 21, 2013, at 3:58 AM, "Bruce Beford" 
 wrote:



Umm... I don't know how else to put this but... Eric, -you- started the
rumor. Back on 18-Dec-2011, while we were waiting on our KX3s, you 
posted to
this list. For brevity's sake, I have not copied out the entire 
exchange
that was going on at the time. I know you have a lot of irons in the 
fire

right now, but hopefully, this could be fit in the queue somewhere. The
hardware would actually be fairly simple, upconverting the KX3 I/Q 
to the

same IF as the K3...
Bruce
N1RX

Eric Swartz, WA6HHQ Elecraft eric at elecraft.com
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Not so. We also plan to offer a small IQ to P3 adapter for the KX3, 
which

will give users full P3 operation with the KX3.

Stay tuned!

73,
Eric
www.elecraft.com



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Alton Barkley]

On 5/21/2013 10:57, Wayne Burdick wrote:

It's not quite that simple. To be really useful, the KX3 would also have to 
support the special protocol we use between the P3 and K3 that keeps track of 
VFO frequencies, modes, filter bandwidth, etc. There's quite a bit of firmware 
involved. But I agree this would be a nice addition.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 21, 2013, at 3:58 AM, "Bruce Beford"  
wrote:


Umm... I don't know how else to put this but... Eric, -you- started the
rumor. Back on 18-Dec-2011, while we were waiting on our KX3s, you posted to
this list. For brevity's sake, I have not copied out the entire exchange
that was going on at the time. I know you have a lot of irons in the fire
right now, but hopefully, this could be fit in the queue somewhere. The
hardware would actually be fairly simple, upconverting the KX3 I/Q to the
same IF as the K3...
Bruce
N1RX

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Not so. We also plan to offer a small IQ to P3 adapter for the KX3, which
will give users full P3 operation with the KX3.

Stay tuned!

73,
Eric

www.elecraft.com



I'm not sure where this rumor was started. While we certainly would like to
do something like this, we have not announced that we are developing it. >

We do not have an active project to do this at this time.


We have been absolutely maxed out in engineering on many other projects,
including the KXPA100 and the upcoming 2M option for the KX3.
I apologize if any of our postings have created confusion regarding this.
73,
Eric
elecraft.com



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My first post to the reflector.  I hope it works out.  I have a KX3 
#3147 and absolutely love it.  I was completely spoiled by having owned 
a FlexRadio SDR 1000.  I'm sure the majority of P3 owners will agree 
that once you have operated with a panadapter, going back to a radio 
without one is the equivalent of operating blind.


I use my KX3 as a base station.  I operate QRP exclusively so I don't 
need the amp.  I may pick up the FM module.  But I will tell you this.  
I'd buy an KX3/P3 adapter and a P3 instantly if Elecraft offered that 
setup for sale.


I've got my cheque book out and am ready to go.  Get the project folks 
working.


Al Barkley
VE3OWO

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Wayne Burdick]

It's not quite that simple. To be really useful, the KX3 would also have to 
support the special protocol we use between the P3 and K3 that keeps track of 
VFO frequencies, modes, filter bandwidth, etc. There's quite a bit of firmware 
involved. But I agree this would be a nice addition.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 21, 2013, at 3:58 AM, "Bruce Beford"  
wrote:

> Umm... I don't know how else to put this but... Eric, -you- started the
> rumor. Back on 18-Dec-2011, while we were waiting on our KX3s, you posted to
> this list. For brevity's sake, I have not copied out the entire exchange
> that was going on at the time. I know you have a lot of irons in the fire
> right now, but hopefully, this could be fit in the queue somewhere. The
> hardware would actually be fairly simple, upconverting the KX3 I/Q to the
> same IF as the K3...
> Bruce
> N1RX
> 
> Eric Swartz, WA6HHQ Elecraft eric at elecraft.com 
> Sun Dec 18 13:25:09 EST 2011 
> 
> Previous message: [Elecraft] P3SVGA 
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> version)? 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Not so. We also plan to offer a small IQ to P3 adapter for the KX3, which
> will give users full P3 operation with the KX3.
> 
> Stay tuned!
> 
> 73,
> Eric
> 
> www.elecraft.com
> 
> 
>> I'm not sure where this rumor was started. While we certainly would like to
>> do something like this, we have not announced that we are developing it. >
> We do not have an active project to do this at this time.
> 
>> We have been absolutely maxed out in engineering on many other projects, 
>> including the KXPA100 and the upcoming 2M option for the KX3.
> 
>> I apologize if any of our postings have created confusion regarding this.
> 
>> 73,
>> Eric
>> elecraft.com
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[KM4VX]

Eric has posed a question regarding the source of the rumor about the
development of an adapter to use the P3 with the KX3. In the spirit of full
disclosure I quote the following  from the Elecraft archives:

Not so. We also plan to offer a small IQ to P3 adapter for the KX3, which
will 
>give users full P3 operation with the KX3. 
> 
>Stay tuned! 
> 
>73, 
>Eric 

END OF TOPIC AND DEVELOPMENT I GUESS.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Bruce Beford]

Umm... I don't know how else to put this but... Eric, -you- started the
rumor. Back on 18-Dec-2011, while we were waiting on our KX3s, you posted to
this list. For brevity's sake, I have not copied out the entire exchange
that was going on at the time. I know you have a lot of irons in the fire
right now, but hopefully, this could be fit in the queue somewhere. The
hardware would actually be fairly simple, upconverting the KX3 I/Q to the
same IF as the K3...
Bruce
N1RX

Eric Swartz, WA6HHQ Elecraft eric at elecraft.com 
Sun Dec 18 13:25:09 EST 2011 

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Not so. We also plan to offer a small IQ to P3 adapter for the KX3, which
will give users full P3 operation with the KX3.

Stay tuned!

73,
Eric

www.elecraft.com


>I'm not sure where this rumor was started. While we certainly would like to
> do something like this, we have not announced that we are developing it. >
We do not have an active project to do this at this time.

> We have been absolutely maxed out in engineering on many other projects, 
> including the KXPA100 and the upcoming 2M option for the KX3.

> I apologize if any of our postings have created confusion regarding this.

> 73,
> Eric
> elecraft.com



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

I'm not sure where this rumor was started. While we certainly would like to do 
something like this, we have not announced that we are developing it. We do not 
have an active project to do this at this time.

We have been absolutely maxed out in engineering on many other projects, 
including the KXPA100 and the upcoming 2M option for the KX3.

I apologize if any of our postings have created confusion regarding this.

73,
Eric
elecraft.com
_..._


On May 19, 2013, at 2:57 PM, KM4VX  wrote:

> Great to hear a KX3 amplifier will soon be available from Elecraft.  I have
> no interest in adding power to my KX3 QRP rig, but I am looking forward to
> Elecraft selling the adapater so we can use the KX3 with the P3. I hope in
> the rush to get the amplifier to market Elecraft has not forgotten its
> earlier plans to develop and sell an adapter for the KX3-P3. Thanks.
> 
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[Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[KM4VX]

Great to hear a KX3 amplifier will soon be available from Elecraft.  I have
no interest in adding power to my KX3 QRP rig, but I am looking forward to
Elecraft selling the adapater so we can use the KX3 with the P3. I hope in
the rush to get the amplifier to market Elecraft has not forgotten its
earlier plans to develop and sell an adapter for the KX3-P3. Thanks.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 AND P3 ADAPTER

[Fred Smith]

I have thought about this many times since I bought my KX3 and have started
doing a lot more QRP operation. About how nice it would be if there were an
adapter that allowed the KX3 to be tied into the line with the K3 and then
either could be used when the other was off. Is something like this even
possible with the KX3?


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 AND P3 ADAPTER

Good to see the KX3 accessory amp and tuner will soon be available. I am
more interested in the adapter planned for using the KX3 with a P3,  since I
find the panadapter scope very useful in checking band conditions and
basically just lots of fun. Any information on when this adapter for the KX3
might be available? Thanks 



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[Elecraft] KX3 AND P3 ADAPTER

[KM4VX]

Good to see the KX3 accessory amp and tuner will soon be available. I am more
interested in the adapter planned for using the KX3 with a P3,  since I find
the panadapter scope very useful in checking band conditions and basically
just lots of fun. Any information on when this adapter for the KX3 might be
available? Thanks 



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