Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
Hi All, This is an aspect of the Orion II which beats the present K3. When one tunes the VFO the display remains steady for a period of time and the cursor moves across a frozen display in sync with the VFO. Once one stops tuning the VFO the display is no longer frozen. It does help in manually tuning the VFO rather than using the cursor to move to a different point in the displayed spectrum. I would like to see this change introduced. Boy oh boy a company which improves previously sold product! 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Amateur Radio Operator N5GE Sent: 11 November 2010 00:53 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 My vote is NO... Tom Radio Amateur N5GE QCWA Member 35102 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:57:30 -0800, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
Because I am old and crotchety and prone to mistakes. Mea Culpa. Jim, W4ATK On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:13 PM, The Smiths wrote: The IF isn't limited by the filter in use at the time As you know the P3 can span an area something like 200KHz wide... It doesn't matter if you have your 500Hz or 200Hz filter on or not, the IF is still looking at the entire 200KHz area. If you lock the P3 than the display will display from 7.000 to 7.050 for example (50KHz). From there, as you more the cursor and hit the QSY knob the little cursor line could change colors indicating it is working on that freq (and the rig has changed freq.) but the display doesn't have to change, it stays the same. The only thing that has changed is the color of the cursor, or just the fact that the rig is now parked at the new cursor location. This would allow you to start at 7.000 and work your way up the IF display till you got to 7.050 and never have to worry about whether or not you've worked the guy that's to the left of your cursor. You would KNOW for sure that you have, because you were already there, and you're continuing moving the cursor up the band display. A great feature for a contester or even someone working DX on a band like 17 or 30 meters CW... Now, my next question is, Jim, Why did you just disagree with offering this feature, when you didn't even understand how it worked in the first place? From: w4...@bellsouth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:47:02 -0600 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 Just out of curiosity exactly how would you propose to do this. The IF is limited by the filter in use and since the P3 operates off of the IF passband, i may be dense, but I cannot for the life of me see how this could be done... after thinking about it for a moment or two... Enlighten a old geezer please 73s Jim, W4ATK JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
We will be adding this feature to the P3, but its use will be entirely optional. It will still behave the same way it does now if you don't turn on fixed-tune mode. Thank you Wayne! This is why I have a K3 on my desk! 73 Dan - Dan AB3EN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Lock-P3-frequency-range-independent-of-K3-tp5727105p5728813.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
We are already working on this as a user selectable P3 display mode. Either a moving panoramic display centered on your operating frequency, as it is now, or a fixed frequency display centered where you wish. Easily toggled between either mode. Stay tuned. 73, Eric On 11/10/2010 5:04 PM, The Smiths wrote: The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for. Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. Of course Jim, this would be a Feature that could be turned on and off. Nothing has to change for you at all. In the audio world, Locking the play head is something we've been doing since the first day digital audio was introduced. Now it's a REQUIREMENT. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
I would really like to see something done along this line. It would significantly improve the utility of the pan-adapter. Another possibility would be to move the waterfall along with the pan display and just move in blank data for the missing waterfall data. This would be handy during SO2V contesting when running toward one end of the band segment and SP'ing the whole segment. 73 Jack KZ5A On 11/10/2010 5:57 PM, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
Jack, See Wayne's response less than 2 hours ago - it is coming. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/11/2010 8:54 PM, Jack Brabham wrote: I would really like to see something done along this line. It would significantly improve the utility of the pan-adapter. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
Thanks Don, I don't know what I would do if I didn't have you to read the list for me. 73 Jack KZ5A On 11/11/2010 8:52 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Jack, See Wayne's response less than 2 hours ago - it is coming. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/11/2010 8:54 PM, Jack Brabham wrote: I would really like to see something done along this line. It would significantly improve the utility of the pan-adapter. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
Personally, I would not change a thing. It is exactly what I want in a panadapter. 73s Jim, W4ATK On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:57 PM, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re- center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
Just out of curiosity exactly how would you propose to do this. The IF is limited by the filter in use and since the P3 operates off of the IF passband, i may be dense, but I cannot for the life of me see how this could be done... after thinking about it for a moment or two... Enlighten a old geezer please 73s Jim, W4ATK JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
A 'Nope' from me too please :-) I didn't think the P3 would be all that important to me, now it is a fixture, it ain't goin' anywhere. BUT, I still want to see it monitor the TX audio and CW and although I am most likely in the minority, it is a personal 'want' and not one that I find necessary to 'stamp my foot' over :-) 73's Gary On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: My vote is NO... Tom Radio Amateur N5GE QCWA Member 35102 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:57:30 -0800, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679, P3 #546 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
if you look at the frequency you are on which is plainly displayed at the center of the top of the P3 screen you won't have to: .chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. just saying, that one doesn't seem to hold water for me GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 11/10/2010 7:04 PM, The Smiths wrote: The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for. Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
The IF isn't limited by the filter in use at the time As you know the P3 can span an area something like 200KHz wide... It doesn't matter if you have your 500Hz or 200Hz filter on or not, the IF is still looking at the entire 200KHz area. If you lock the P3 than the display will display from 7.000 to 7.050 for example (50KHz). From there, as you more the cursor and hit the QSY knob the little cursor line could change colors indicating it is working on that freq (and the rig has changed freq.) but the display doesn't have to change, it stays the same. The only thing that has changed is the color of the cursor, or just the fact that the rig is now parked at the new cursor location. This would allow you to start at 7.000 and work your way up the IF display till you got to 7.050 and never have to worry about whether or not you've worked the guy that's to the left of your cursor. You would KNOW for sure that you have, because you were already there, and you're continuing moving the cursor up the band display. A great feature for a contester or even someone working DX on a band like 17 or 30 meters CW... Now, my next question is, Jim, Why did you just disagree with offering this feature, when you didn't even understand how it worked in the first place? From: w4...@bellsouth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:47:02 -0600 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 Just out of curiosity exactly how would you propose to do this. The IF is limited by the filter in use and since the P3 operates off of the IF passband, i may be dense, but I cannot for the life of me see how this could be done... after thinking about it for a moment or two... Enlighten a old geezer please 73s Jim, W4ATK JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
We will be adding this feature to the P3, but its use will be entirely optional. It will still behave the same way it does now if you don't turn on fixed-tune mode. 73, Wayne N6KR On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: if you look at the frequency you are on which is plainly displayed at the center of the top of the P3 screen you won't have to: .chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. just saying, that one doesn't seem to hold water for me GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 11/10/2010 7:04 PM, The Smiths wrote: The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for. Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
Why is it that everybody has to take such extremes with these suggestions.. Why is it that people can't understand that you could so easily have an option in the menu that would lock the display location?? Why is it that people assume that the ENTIRE P3 would be redesigned and rebuilt like an old scope from the 1950's would have to? This is software.. options are easy to turn on and off... For those that want something like this, why do others feel they have to STOP it from happening??? Okay, you don't want it, so don't turn it on in the menu... As for your Monitor scope idea, sure, why not, being able to monitor your audio and/or CW signal could be very helpful for some. I would never disagree from having that mode on the box just because I may not use it... Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:09:13 + From: garyvk...@gmail.com To: n...@n5ge.com CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 A 'Nope' from me too please :-) I didn't think the P3 would be all that important to me, now it is a fixture, it ain't goin' anywhere. BUT, I still want to see it monitor the TX audio and CW and although I am most likely in the minority, it is a personal 'want' and not one that I find necessary to 'stamp my foot' over :-) 73's Gary On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: My vote is NO... Tom Radio Amateur N5GE QCWA Member 35102 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:57:30 -0800, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679, P3 #546 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for. Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. Of course Jim, this would be a Feature that could be turned on and off. Nothing has to change for you at all. In the audio world, Locking the play head is something we've been doing since the first day digital audio was introduced. Now it's a REQUIREMENT. From: w4...@bellsouth.net To: ga...@gary-gordon.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:38:47 -0600 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 Personally, I would not change a thing. It is exactly what I want in a panadapter. 73s Jim, W4ATK On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:57 PM, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re- center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
My vote is NO... Tom Radio Amateur N5GE QCWA Member 35102 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:57:30 -0800, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
great, I have no problem with any additions to the functionality of the K3 or P3. I love having new features, having something new to learn is a plus in every way IMO I was just simply saying the idea an op was clueless where they were when it was written on the screen right before their eyes, just didn't make sense to me the idea of gaining another feature' when the ones already present, weren't being used, just didn't and doesn't make sense to me sorry I confused the issue. more features, bring them on, they never seem to come with any detractions from what we already have so why not. GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 11/10/2010 7:16 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: We will be adding this feature to the P3, but its use will be entirely optional. It will still behave the same way it does now if you don't turn on fixed-tune mode. 73, Wayne N6KR On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: if you look at the frequency you are on which is plainly displayed at the center of the top of the P3 screen you won't have to: .chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. just saying, that one doesn't seem to hold water for me GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 11/10/2010 7:04 PM, The Smiths wrote: The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for. Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
I think you are speaking for yourself again? I seriously doubt 'most' of us want this changed. This is a P3, made by Elecraft and it is not a screen from past experiences. It would be much more useful if owners would get used to the 'new' way a panadapter works instead of asking the Elecraft folks to just copy something because you are too (whatever) to learn something new! Tom - W4BQF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of The Smiths Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:04 PM To: w4...@bellsouth.net; ga...@gary-gordon.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for. Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. Of course Jim, this would be a Feature that could be turned on and off. Nothing has to change for you at all. In the audio world, Locking the play head is something we've been doing since the first day digital audio was introduced. Now it's a REQUIREMENT. From: w4...@bellsouth.net To: ga...@gary-gordon.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:38:47 -0600 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 Personally, I would not change a thing. It is exactly what I want in a panadapter. 73s Jim, W4ATK On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:57 PM, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re- center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
As a new subscriber I didn't want to stir up a hornet's nest, but rather to express, from my 55 years of contesting, DX'ing, and band surfing, that the exceptional P3 has a rather glaring need for an optional display anchor. 73, Gary, K6KV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tommy Alderman Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:44 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 I think you are speaking for yourself again? I seriously doubt 'most' of us want this changed. This is a P3, made by Elecraft and it is not a screen from past experiences. It would be much more useful if owners would get used to the 'new' way a panadapter works instead of asking the Elecraft folks to just copy something because you are too (whatever) to learn something new! Tom - W4BQF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of The Smiths Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:04 PM To: w4...@bellsouth.net; ga...@gary-gordon.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for. Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. Of course Jim, this would be a Feature that could be turned on and off. Nothing has to change for you at all. In the audio world, Locking the play head is something we've been doing since the first day digital audio was introduced. Now it's a REQUIREMENT. From: w4...@bellsouth.net To: ga...@gary-gordon.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:38:47 -0600 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 Personally, I would not change a thing. It is exactly what I want in a panadapter. 73s Jim, W4ATK On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:57 PM, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re- center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
And I couldn't give a hoot what is added..more the better..but for me I don't feel I 'would' use the feature so I am neutral on whether it appears or not. But, sometimes I cop those pesky incoming's and so i keep my flame suit at the ready every time I post a comment. At least I am getting my money's worth :-) Oh, and no I am not being sarcastic or whatever, just highly amused coz I got too much time on my hands. Speaking of using the P3, I placed a single CQ the other night and worked over 100 stations and so would not have used the proposed feature and as I don't get too serious in contests I don't feel I 'need' the feature either. Having said all this, I would not want to see others wanting this feature to miss out. Aaah..nuff bandwidth used my 2 cents worth..ya'all can keep the change :-) 73's back to the pile-up Gary On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Gary Gordon ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: As a new subscriber I didn't want to stir up a hornet's nest, but rather to express, from my 55 years of contesting, DX'ing, and band surfing, that the exceptional P3 has a rather glaring need for an optional display anchor. 73, Gary, K6KV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tommy Alderman Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:44 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 I think you are speaking for yourself again? I seriously doubt 'most' of us want this changed. This is a P3, made by Elecraft and it is not a screen from past experiences. It would be much more useful if owners would get used to the 'new' way a panadapter works instead of asking the Elecraft folks to just copy something because you are too (whatever) to learn something new! Tom - W4BQF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of The Smiths Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:04 PM To: w4...@bellsouth.net; ga...@gary-gordon.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for. Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again. Of course Jim, this would be a Feature that could be turned on and off. Nothing has to change for you at all. In the audio world, Locking the play head is something we've been doing since the first day digital audio was introduced. Now it's a REQUIREMENT. From: w4...@bellsouth.net To: ga...@gary-gordon.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:38:47 -0600 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3 Personally, I would not change a thing. It is exactly what I want in a panadapter. 73s Jim, W4ATK On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:57 PM, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote: This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz. Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re- center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz. Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO. 73 Gary K6kV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk __ Elecraft mailing list
