Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[W3AB/GEO]

I fly stunt kites and had a need for keeping the lines untangled, easy 
to to take up and pay out. We use plastic hoops or a new one, to me, 
called a Yoyo by Shanti kits.

http://shantikites.com/single-line-flying/shanti-hoops-yoyo-winders/

Of course I have a 40M dipole wound on one for portable use.

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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[John Payne]

In looking at the Amazon listing I notice the reel has "active noise 
canceling".  Wonder how effective that is for switching supply and other 
electrical noise?  (tongue firmly in cheek)


73 de John Payne W4CWZ

On 10/9/2021 7:02 PM, steve WB3LGC wrote:

I have done similar for my portable antennas.
https://www.amazon.com/Coghlans-Camp-Laundry-Reel-21-Foot/dp/B001QBZM4Q/ref=sr_1_44_mod_primary_new?dchild=1=rv+clothesline=1633820095=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D=8-44 





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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[steve WB3LGC]

I have done similar for my portable antennas.
https://www.amazon.com/Coghlans-Camp-Laundry-Reel-21-Foot/dp/B001QBZM4Q/ref=sr_1_44_mod_primary_new?dchild=1=rv+clothesline=1633820095=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D=8-44

I loaded the "Coghlans-Camp-Laundry-Reel" ($6) with 24ga teflon (what it 
would take) ended with one at 75+ feet and the second with 100+ feet.  I 
used yellow and red wire.  I like that teflon has silver plated wire and 
it has lasted many-many years of use.  I added banana plugs at the end, 
too.  I have tried chalk lines, but I go back the the simple/cheap one...


I had "free" access to wire at one time.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 10/6/21 5:00 PM, Bob McGraw wrote:
For years I've carried and used a 50 ft spool of #22 insulated 
stranded hookup wire.  I un-spool the length I guess-ta-mate to be the 
required amount, put a 1/2 hitch at the spool the wire comes on, and 
toss the spool end into the nearest tree, allowing the spool to hang 
down from a limb.  The other end connects to a specially designed 
banana jack on the camper.  When finished operating, just turn the end 
loose, the spool drops down, back off the 1/2 hitch and wind the wire 
on the original spool.    No insulators, rope, heaving lines, 
launchers,  or other things required.


I also carry a 100 ft spool of #22 in case I wish to put up a longer 
wire.  In that case I may use the 50 ft spool as a ground radial of 
what ever length I may think needed.   Some may ask "how long is the 
wire antenna?".   The answer is a very complex mathematical equation; 
" long enough to go from my termination point on the camper to the 
desired tree limb".


My viewpoint...more parts = more issues.

73

Bob, K4TAX

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 15:59:45 -0700
From: Walter Underwood
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?
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I looped the wire and taped it with electrical tape.

For winding, I use the SOTAbeams midi winders. They are the same 
length as my KX3. I tried camping clothesline reels, but they would 
bind and it just took too danged long to wind them up.


https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/ 
<https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/>


For rope into trees, arborist throw line is great. It is lightweight 
and specifically designed to not get stuck in trees.


wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)


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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Todd KH2TJ]

Have a look-see here at this excellent kite supply store in Colorado.  
Mini-winders and reel-spools.  Great store!

https://intothewind.com/kites/accessories/kite-line-reels.html

https://intothewind.com/stunt-kites/stunt-kite-line/innova-mini-winder.html

73, Todd KH2TJ

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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Skip Jensen]

A Rule I learned while working on Apollo at NASA MSC:  "Regardless of 
how large you make the MTBF of each part ... put enough of them on the 
rocket and something will always be broken."


Everyone today seems to want 5 decimal places of precision for the 
length of the wire.  Your "long mathematical equation" works just fine. 


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/6/2021 2:00 PM, Bob McGraw wrote:
For years I've carried and used a 50 ft spool of #22 insulated 
stranded hookup wire.  I un-spool the length I guess-ta-mate to be the 
required amount, put a 1/2 hitch at the spool the wire comes on, and 
toss the spool end into the nearest tree, allowing the spool to hang 
down from a limb.  The other end connects to a specially designed 
banana jack on the camper.  When finished operating, just turn the end 
loose, the spool drops down, back off the 1/2 hitch and wind the wire 
on the original spool.    No insulators, rope, heaving lines, 
launchers,  or other things required.


I also carry a 100 ft spool of #22 in case I wish to put up a longer 
wire.  In that case I may use the 50 ft spool as a ground radial of 
what ever length I may think needed.   Some may ask "how long is the 
wire antenna?".   The answer is a very complex mathematical equation; 
" long enough to go from my termination point on the camper to the 
desired tree limb".


My viewpoint...more parts = more issues.

73

Bob, K4TAX



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[Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Bob McGraw]

For years I've carried and used a 50 ft spool of #22 insulated stranded 
hookup wire.  I un-spool the length I guess-ta-mate to be the required 
amount, put a 1/2 hitch at the spool the wire comes on, and toss the 
spool end into the nearest tree, allowing the spool to hang down from a 
limb.  The other end connects to a specially designed banana jack on the 
camper.  When finished operating, just turn the end loose, the spool 
drops down, back off the 1/2 hitch and wind the wire on the original 
spool.    No insulators, rope, heaving lines, launchers,  or other 
things required.


I also carry a 100 ft spool of #22 in case I wish to put up a longer 
wire.  In that case I may use the 50 ft spool as a ground radial of what 
ever length I may think needed.   Some may ask "how long is the wire 
antenna?".   The answer is a very complex mathematical equation; " long 
enough to go from my termination point on the camper to the desired tree 
limb".


My viewpoint...more parts = more issues.

73

Bob, K4TAX

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 15:59:45 -0700
From: Walter Underwood
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?
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I looped the wire and taped it with electrical tape.

For winding, I use the SOTAbeams midi winders. They are the same length as my 
KX3. I tried camping clothesline reels, but they would bind and it just took 
too danged long to wind them up.

https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/  
<https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/>

For rope into trees, arborist throw line is great. It is lightweight and 
specifically designed to not get stuck in trees.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)


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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Walter Underwood]

I tried the Coghlan’s laundry reels and switched to the SOTAbeams midi winders. 
The laundry reels were slow and took a lot of winding. The quality control is a 
little iffy, too. Sometimes you get one that binds, sometimes they are smooth. 
And if you drop them just right, they pop open.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 4:14 AM, steve WB3LGC  wrote:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Coghlans-Camp-Laundry-Reel-21-Foot/dp/B001QBZM4Q/ref=sr_1_14_mod_primary_new?dchild=1=clothesline+camping=1633518594=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D=8-14
> 
> works for me.  I use two with 60+ feet of teflon.  The wire can be wrapped 
> around the cleat and tied at the other end of the reel.  I have used them for 
> many years.
> 
> 73, steve WB3LGC
> 
> 
> On 10/5/21 6:33 PM, Julia Tuttle wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
>> pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.
>> 
>> I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
>> temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
>> I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:
>> 
>> 1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
>> without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
>> girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
>> ideas?
>> 2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
>> https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
>> termination there.
>> 
>> Thanks and 73,
>> 
>> Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Gwen Patton]

I usually use a fisherman's knot called a Uni knot. I use it with 24ga
silicone insulated stranded copper wire for my QRP antennas. I tie the end
to a small insulator, then tie paracord or some other thin, strong line to
the other end of the insulator. I like to use very brightly colored wire
and line, so bystanders can see them. Prevents tripping hazard. My favorite
line is glow in the dark paracord. It will glow faintly but visibly in the
dark.

This knot is also known as the Duncan loop. It can tie to a ring, to an
insulator, splice two lines if doubled, and can tie together different
materials. Here's a different video showing how to tie the Uni/Duncan knot
from a different angle, and how to use it to splice two lines together.

https://youtu.be/myMSMYy_iYU

Some think it looks like a noose, but that's a very different knot.

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 6:34 PM Julia Tuttle  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
> pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.
>
> I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
> temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
> I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:
>
> 1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
> without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
> girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
> ideas?
> 2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
> https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
> termination there.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Daniel Brown]

In the past, I have sourced a few of the spools used for retailing fly-fishing 
line from my neighborhood Orvis. Just asked the sales guy nicely, as we were 
finishing up with other purchases. 

The spools worked nicely with Poly-Steath wire. 

--
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> On Oct 6, 2021, at 00:50, Eric Norris  wrote:
> 
> Use a fly fishing knot on those slippery wires to tie them to a small
> insulator.  My late friend Neal WA6OCP (SK) used to buy these perfect
> spools he called "offshore fishing line spools."   They were maybe 8" in
> diameter, but very thin--perfect for winding up slick, slinky wire for
> temporary QRP antennas.  I have no idea where he got them
> 
> 
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 3:34 PM Julia Tuttle  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
>> pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.
>> 
>> I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
>> temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
>> I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:
>> 
>> 1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
>> without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
>> girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
>> ideas?
>> 2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
>> https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
>> termination there.
>> 
>> Thanks and 73,
>> 
>> Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[steve WB3LGC]

http://seller.sug.my/product/plastic-fishing-line-spool-hp/ ???

On 10/6/21 12:46 AM, Eric Norris wrote:

he called "offshore fishing line spools."

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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[steve WB3LGC]

https://www.amazon.com/Coghlans-Camp-Laundry-Reel-21-Foot/dp/B001QBZM4Q/ref=sr_1_14_mod_primary_new?dchild=1=clothesline+camping=1633518594=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D=8-14

works for me.  I use two with 60+ feet of teflon.  The wire can be 
wrapped around the cleat and tied at the other end of the reel.  I have 
used them for many years.


73, steve WB3LGC


On 10/5/21 6:33 PM, Julia Tuttle wrote:

Hi folks,

I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.

I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:

1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
ideas?
2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
termination there.

Thanks and 73,

Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Eric Norris]

Use a fly fishing knot on those slippery wires to tie them to a small
insulator.  My late friend Neal WA6OCP (SK) used to buy these perfect
spools he called "offshore fishing line spools."   They were maybe 8" in
diameter, but very thin--perfect for winding up slick, slinky wire for
temporary QRP antennas.  I have no idea where he got them


73 Eric WD6DBM

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 3:34 PM Julia Tuttle  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
> pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.
>
> I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
> temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
> I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:
>
> 1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
> without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
> girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
> ideas?
> 2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
> https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
> termination there.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[N9DTT via Elecraft]

There's a lot of creative ways to do the loop that all work pretty well.  One I 
have used is to just form a loop by folding the wire back on itself and anchor 
the loop in place with an appropriate sized piece of adhesive lined shrink 
tube.  Depending on how you fashion the shrink tube it can act as a bit of a 
mechanical fuse to pull out when the wire gets snagged or tripped over.  It 
helps when the banana plug is at the wrong angle to pull out.

—
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On Tuesday, October 5th, 2021 at 5:33 PM, Julia Tuttle  
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
>
> pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.
>
> I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
>
> temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
>
> I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:
>
> 1.  What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
>
> without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
>
> girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
>
> ideas?
> 2.  How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
>
> https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
>
> termination there.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Brian Hunt]

I just wind a figure-8 between my thumb and little finger and tie the bundle 
with a twist tie. Spade lug on one end and small weight on the other. 25 ft is 
about the longest this works for. 

72,
Brian, K0DTJ
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Byron Servies]

Hi,

The smallest wire rope thimble you can find (home depot has tiny ones)
and a little bit of the wire sized just under the thimble size. I
don't use the nuts that come with the thimble, usually, but instead
get copper split-bolt splice nuts.

The little bit of extra wire provides the purchase for the nuts and
the thimble is a nice hard connection point.

73, Byron N6NUL

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 3:35 PM Julia Tuttle  wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
> pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.
>
> I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
> temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
> I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:
>
> 1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
> without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
> girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
> ideas?
> 2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
> https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
> termination there.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Gary Memory]

I use extension cord winders (orange in color, from Home Depot, rectangle
in shape, about 10 - 12 inches long.  Sorry, O can't recall the official
name).  As for the roped ends, I use glass insulators to fluorescent yellow
or fluorescent orange para-cord...about 50 feet worth on each end in order
to meet most total distances between trees, buildings or otherwise.  I also
keep a number of wire ties, velcro straps, small carabiners etc in the
"kit".  Not sure if this helps.

Gary, N7BRJ


On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM Julia Tuttle  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
> pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.
>
> I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
> temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
> I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:
>
> 1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
> without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
> girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
> ideas?
> 2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
> https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
> termination there.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Rich WC3T]

There’s a reason arborists call it “slick line.”   

> On Oct 5, 2021, at 19:05, Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
> I looped the wire and taped it with electrical tape.
> 
> For winding, I use the SOTAbeams midi winders. They are the same length as my 
> KX3. I tried camping clothesline reels, but they would bind and it just took 
> too danged long to wind them up.
> 
> https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/ 
> 
> 
> For rope into trees, arborist throw line is great. It is lightweight and 
> specifically designed to not get stuck in trees.
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 3:33 PM, Julia Tuttle  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
>> pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.
>> 
>> I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
>> temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
>> I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:
>> 
>> 1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
>> without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
>> girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
>> ideas?
>> 2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
>> https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
>> termination there.
>> 
>> Thanks and 73,
>> 
>> Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Walter Underwood]

I looped the wire and taped it with electrical tape.

For winding, I use the SOTAbeams midi winders. They are the same length as my 
KX3. I tried camping clothesline reels, but they would bind and it just took 
too danged long to wind them up.

https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/ 


For rope into trees, arborist throw line is great. It is lightweight and 
specifically designed to not get stuck in trees.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Oct 5, 2021, at 3:33 PM, Julia Tuttle  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
> pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.
> 
> I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
> temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
> I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:
> 
> 1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
> without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
> girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
> ideas?
> 2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
> https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
> termination there.
> 
> Thanks and 73,
> 
> Julie
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Steve KC6ZKT]

I went with two non-resonant lengths (1). Depending on the band I'm 
working, one acts as the radiator, and the other as the counterpoise. I 
chose 23' and 39'.


I installed banana plugs on the radio end, and tied a bowline hitch (2) 
on the far ends. I also carry additional 1.5mm nylon braided cord and a 
couple of tiny plastic carabiners if I need to tie off the end of the 
antenna somewhere.


I'm happy with small kite winders (3). If you don't have a kite shop 
near you, you can get them from SotaBeams in the UK, and I think DX 
Engineering in the USA sells them as well.


1) Non-resonant antenna calculator: https://k7mem.com/Ant_End_Fed.html
2) Bowline hitch: https://www.netknots.com/rope_knots/bowline
3) Kite winders: https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/


On 10/5/21 15:33, Julia Tuttle wrote:

Hi folks,

I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.

I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:

1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
ideas?
2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
termination there.

Thanks and 73,

Julie

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[Elecraft] Wire antenna ends and spools?

[Julia Tuttle]

Hi folks,

I'm putting together the Elecraft Standard Wire Antenna(tm), two 25-foot
pieces of 26-gauge wire with relatively slippery insulation.

I've got banana plugs on the near (radio) ends of the wires, and I've
temporarily got the two lengths coiled and held with velcro cable ties, but
I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on:

1. What to put on the far (tree/wherever) ends so I can tie a rope to them
without the slippery insulation just slipping out of the knot. My
girlfriend suggests a ring terminal, which seems reasonable -- any other
ideas?
2. How to coil them more securely. W3ATB suggests a chalk line reel (
https://w3atb.com/wire-antenna-winder/) but I'm not a fan of the
termination there.

Thanks and 73,

Julie
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