Re: [Elecraft] external speakers

2013-06-19 Thread todd ruby
Tony
A very simple and elegant hook-up. I had the speakers working in minutes. 

Tnx
73
Todd
WB2ZAB

On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Anthony Scandurra K4QE k...@att.net wrote:

 Todd,
 
 This will do it for you.  All Radio Shack parts.
 
 One Y adapter -274-375
 One audio extension cord - 42-2492
 Two audio cables - 42-2434
 
 Plug audio extension cable into K3.
 Plug Y-adapter into extension cable.
 Plug both audio cables into Y-adapter.
 Attach wires from audio cables to speakers.
 
 73, Tony K4QE
 
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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of todd ruby
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:52 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] external speakers
 
 I am trying to install a pair of KLH 970A outboard spkrs to my K3. The back 
 panel of the radio has one ⅛ stereo phone jack. The speakers have a + and - 
 output on each speaker. My question, as dumb as it sounds is, how do I 
 connect the wires from the speakers to the lone ⅛ stereo plug?
 
 thanks
 
 73
 todd
 WB2ZAB
 
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[Elecraft] external speakers

2013-06-17 Thread todd ruby
I am trying to install a pair of KLH 970A outboard spkrs to my K3. The back 
panel of the radio has one ⅛ stereo phone jack. The speakers have a + and - 
output on each speaker. My question, as dumb as it sounds is, how do I connect 
the wires from the speakers to the lone ⅛ stereo plug?

thanks

73
todd
WB2ZAB
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Re: [Elecraft] external speakers

2013-06-17 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I found (and I can't remember where) a molded cable that had a 3.5mm TRS stereo 
plug and two longish cables with RCA connectors, one for each speaker.  I cut 
the RCA connectors off.  Look for a cable that you can peel apart all the way 
to the 3.5mm plug.

You can of course solder this up yourself, but molded plugs seem to survive 
better at my station.

http://www.showmecables.com/product/2-5mm-Stereo-Plug-to-Dual-RCA-Plugs-1-5-FT.aspx?gclid=CKjLwufY67cCFbGDQgodZHYAmw
http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=90C0959CMP=KNC-GPLAmckv=|pcrid|20115734061|plid|
http://www.amazon.com/electronics/dp/B0002KR1OG
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UG823K/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=1535523722pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B0002KR1OGpf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0HC8G8BNKPEQBK78B1TY
http://www.vpi.us/cable-audio-rca.html

73 de Dick, K6KR

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of todd ruby
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:52 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] external speakers

I am trying to install a pair of KLH 970A outboard spkrs to my K3. The back 
panel of the radio has one ⅛ stereo phone jack. The speakers have a + and - 
output on each speaker. My question, as dumb as it sounds is, how do I connect 
the wires from the speakers to the lone ⅛ stereo plug?

thanks

73
todd
WB2ZAB
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Re: [Elecraft] external speakers

2013-06-17 Thread Anthony Scandurra K4QE
Todd,

This will do it for you.  All Radio Shack parts.

One Y adapter -274-375
One audio extension cord - 42-2492
Two audio cables - 42-2434

Plug audio extension cable into K3.
Plug Y-adapter into extension cable.
Plug both audio cables into Y-adapter.
Attach wires from audio cables to speakers.

73, Tony K4QE

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of todd ruby
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:52 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] external speakers

I am trying to install a pair of KLH 970A outboard spkrs to my K3. The back 
panel of the radio has one ⅛ stereo phone jack. The speakers have a + and - 
output on each speaker. My question, as dumb as it sounds is, how do I connect 
the wires from the speakers to the lone ⅛ stereo plug?

thanks

73
todd
WB2ZAB
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Re: [Elecraft] external speakers

2013-06-17 Thread Don Wilhelm

Todd,

The best way is to build an adapter.  The shell and ring connect to the 
right speaker and the shell and tip connect to the left speaker.
Use whatever connectors you want for the speaker end of the adapter, and 
build cables to the speakers to match your choice of connectors.  The 
- terminal of the speakers should connect to the shell of the 3.5mm 
stereo plug.


You could eliminate the adapter and wire two speaker cables to the 
stereo plug eliminating the extra two connectors, but that means if you 
want to move things across the room (or elsewhere) the two speakers are 
tied together with the speaker cable.  If that is not a problem for you, 
the - conductor for both speaker cables connects to the plug shell, 
the + conductor for the right speaker connects to the ring and the + 
conductor for the left speaker connects to the tip.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/17/2013 1:52 PM, todd ruby wrote:

I am trying to install a pair of KLH 970A outboard spkrs to my K3. The back panel of the 
radio has one ⅛ stereo phone jack. The speakers have a + and - output on each 
speaker. My question, as dumb as it sounds is, how do I connect the wires from the 
speakers to the lone ⅛ stereo plug?



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Re: [Elecraft] external speakers

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


The correct answer is:  Both black wires go to the sleeve of
the 3.5mm plug (ground).  The red wire from the LEFT speaker
goes to the tip of the 3.5mm plug.  The red wire from the RIGHT
speaker goes to the ring of the 3.5mm plug.

How you manage that transition is up to you.  I put 3.5mm plugs
on both my speakers - the left speaker was connected to tip and
sleeve while the right speaker was connected to ring and sleeve.
Both 3.5mm plugs were connected to a Y cable (3.5mm stereo male
to two 3.5mm stereo female) which plugged into the speaker jack.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 6/17/2013 1:52 PM, todd ruby wrote:

I am trying to install a pair of KLH 970A outboard spkrs to my K3. The back panel of the 
radio has one ⅛ stereo phone jack. The speakers have a + and - output on each 
speaker. My question, as dumb as it sounds is, how do I connect the wires from the 
speakers to the lone ⅛ stereo plug?

thanks

73
todd
WB2ZAB
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-23 Thread Jan Pettersson

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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-23 Thread Edward R Cole
I have a great radio speaker made in the 1950's by the National Radio 
Company.  11x12x8 inch metal cabinet with 9-inch diameter speaker (no 
amplifier).  K3 sounds very nice with it (I also have a Sony stereo 
headset when I need to hear even better).  CM500 sometime in my future.


The current HK computer speakers used with the KX3 will be replaced 
by a West Mountain amplified speaker which is immune to RFI (my wife 
is using a pair on her desk top to eliminate my RF).


If Elecraft ever considers it, a generic K-line cabinet would be 
desirable for making a pretty station.  One could install whatever 
in it.  No need for a speaker, power supply, and several other 
accessories that are obtainable anywhere.


73. Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-23 Thread Fred Smith
I have 2 sets of these for both of my K3's and they sound great plus they
are shielded and amplified. One of the best buys out there.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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Subject: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

I purchased a set of West Mountain COMspkr from HRO at Hamcation. About
$40.00 and they work and sound great. The black cabinets match the K3 set up
very nicely. Bill - W0BBI
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-23 Thread Gary Gregory
H..Great, be nice if they could be run on 240/50Hz though for those of
us languishing in the dark dim ages.:-(

Oh just kidding..

I use the amplified speaker for the KX3 in the mobile and it helps a lot by
adding some volume to the audio for those of us hearing challenged folks.

73



On 23 April 2013 18:38, Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com wrote:

 I have 2 sets of these for both of my K3's and they sound great plus they
 are shielded and amplified. One of the best buys out there.


 73,
 Fred/N0AZZ
 K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
 P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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 Subject: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

 I purchased a set of West Mountain COMspkr from HRO at Hamcation. About
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 very nicely. Bill - W0BBI
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3

2013-04-23 Thread Jeff Cathrow

While I tend to agree with the OP I also understand that it would be a rather 
mundane task for Elecraft to manufacture speakers and that their talents are 
bettert utilized in updating firmware, advancing the technology inside our 
great rigs and so on. What I did do to achieve great audio was put a pair of 
5.5 Dynaudios (Danish audiophile grade woofer/mid-range drivers) in a pair of 
gray PVC junction boxes obtained from Home Depot.  I cut the appropriate-sized 
mounting holes in the cover panels, stuffed some cotton balls inside, ran some 
tiny speaker wires through a small hole in the back and mounted the speakers 
with some nice stainless steel screws. Arguably overkill but since I already 
had the drivers on hand I thought why not put them to good use?  They now 
elegantly perch atop my gear---and best of all---make the K3 loud and clear!
73,
 
Jeff, NH7RO
 
Sent from my home computer while eating a bowl of oats for breakfast.
 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-23 Thread Clay Freinwald
My all time favorite speakers for general HF work is the classic old
Motorola Land-Mobile Speakers.   Not the newer plastic ones, but the old
metal ones with the cream colored frame.   I put rubber feet on the bottom
and sit them on the desk next to or on top of my K3.

Clay Freinwald, K7CR

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[Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Ramon Tristani
The K3 lacks matching external speakers offering better sound than the internal 
one. In the tradition of other leading manufacturers, Elecraft could even 
include a power supply in the enclosure (but I would be content with just a 
good sounding speaker). Any hope for this?


Ramón Tristani, KP4GE
r.trist...@gmail.com



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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread David Christ
I agree with those who say it is in our and Elecreft's best interest for them 
to concentrate on what they do best and let others excel in their own 
specialty.  Speakers and power supplies are in that category.  Probably not a 
lot of Return On Investment in designing speakers.  Not a lot of gain for 
amateurs either.  As this is one of the recurring threads you can find plenty 
of good suggestions in the archives.

David K0LUM

On Apr 22, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Ramon Tristani wrote:

 The K3 lacks matching external speakers offering better sound than the 
 internal one. In the tradition of other leading manufacturers, Elecraft could 
 even include a power supply in the enclosure (but I would be content with 
 just a good sounding speaker). Any hope for this?
 
 
 Ramón Tristani, KP4GE
 r.trist...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Shultz
I second that motion! Would certainly be a best seller with a power supply  two 
speakers to match the line up.what a great idea, Ramon!  Tom K2CIA.



 From: Ramon Tristani r.trist...@gmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:40 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3
 

The K3 lacks matching external speakers offering better sound than the internal 
one. In the tradition of other leading manufacturers, Elecraft could even 
include a power supply in the enclosure (but I would be content with just a 
good sounding speaker). Any hope for this?


Ramón Tristani, KP4GE
r.trist...@gmail.com



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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Bill
Elecraft need not get into the business of designing power supplies and
speakers, but if they would use off the shelf speakers and power supplies
and fit them into a matching cabinet, it would be a seller!

Bill, w7ij

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From: Ramon Tristani [mailto:r.trist...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:41 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

The K3 lacks matching external speakers offering better sound than the
internal one. In the tradition of other leading manufacturers, Elecraft
could even include a power supply in the enclosure (but I would be content
with just a good sounding speaker). Any hope for this?


Ramón Tristani, KP4GE
r.trist...@gmail.com



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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread bill steffey NY9H

OK   no speaker  since they do not make speakers,,,\
but they could sell an enclosure  , P3 form factor
grille punched out with internal standard mounting studs...
for whatever that size hole could reasonably accommodate
leaving the rest of the space for us to chop up for whatever we want./...

one could even make a subframe to take smaller speakers than the main 
hole would permit... stuff you sdr in the back of your second speaker...

Speakers do have better intelligibility when they are facing you 

I can do speakers, I cannot due a matching enclosure properly,.,,,

bill ny9h/3

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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Gustavo Villada
or they just can sell enclosures like K2 so we do our home brew speaker and
power sources :)
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

No need for an Elecraft speaker here.

Why talk about one speaker by the way?
I use a set of computer stereo  speakers. I need two speakers for my K3 
(main RX and sub RX in nice stereo).
The sound is good en more than adequate. For the price I got those, 
Elecraft can never compete with that. And I gues they won't.


73
Arie PA3A

Op 22-4-2013 19:40, Ramon Tristani schreef:

The K3 lacks matching external speakers offering better sound than the internal 
one. In the tradition of other leading manufacturers, Elecraft could even 
include a power supply in the enclosure (but I would be content with just a 
good sounding speaker). Any hope for this?




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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Mel Farrer
I would prefer them to offer a pre-punched cover toe the P3!!!

Mel, K6KBE





 From: Ian Reeve ian.radioworks...@hotmail.co.uk
To: bill steffey NY9H n...@arrl.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3
 

I agree totally with Bill,

There are lots of speakers out there and it is the lack of a suitable matching 
K3 line case that is the issue. A pre-punched case with standard positioned 
mounting holes would be a good addition to the line up, for purchasers to add 
their own speaker to. As Bill says, intelligibility is best from forward facing 
speakers and a good quality 6 diameter speaker would sound great.  Just make 
sure that a stereo jack is used for the rear jack socket...

I am good at speakers but do not have the capability to make a decent matching 
enclosure.

Lets sow the seeds at Elecraft  for a well finished matching enclosure for 
users to add in a standard speaker of their choice.






Ian Reeve  MØIDR


 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:39:32 -0400
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 From: n...@arrl.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3
 
 OK           no speaker  since they do not make speakers,,,\
 but they could sell an enclosure  , P3 form factor
 grille punched out with internal standard mounting studs...
 for whatever that size hole could reasonably accommodate
 leaving the rest of the space for us to chop up for whatever we want./...
 
 one could even make a subframe to take smaller speakers than the main 
 hole would permit... stuff you sdr in the back of your second speaker...
 Speakers do have better intelligibility when they are facing you 
 
 I can do speakers, I cannot due a matching enclosure properly,.,,,
 
 bill ny9h/3
 
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



On 4/22/2013 3:21 PM, Ian Reeve wrote:

As Bill says, intelligibility is best from forward facing speakers
and a good quality 6 diameter speaker would sound great.  Just make
sure that a stereo jack is used for the rear jack socket...


Given the size of the P3 case I suspect one would be limited to a 3
or 3.5 (round) speaker or a 3 x 5 oval one.  The interior of the
P3 front panel is slightly less than 4 x 6 and will not accommodate
either a 6 (round) speaker or 4 x 6 (oval).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Fred Smith
There are plenty of speakers to choose from on the market and do not cost
that much either. As far as power supplies I would rather use my own a large
one to power many different things in the shack I use 2 Astron 70 amp
supplies a VS and a RS-70M.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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On 4/22/2013 3:21 PM, Ian Reeve wrote:
 As Bill says, intelligibility is best from forward facing speakers and 
 a good quality 6 diameter speaker would sound great.  Just make sure 
 that a stereo jack is used for the rear jack socket...

Given the size of the P3 case I suspect one would be limited to a 3
or 3.5 (round) speaker or a 3 x 5 oval one.  The interior of the
P3 front panel is slightly less than 4 x 6 and will not accommodate either
a 6 (round) speaker or 4 x 6 (oval).

73,

... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Tom H Childers
I use a pair of 4.25 square Realistic, AKA Radio Shack,
Communication Speakers that are wired up to a stereo plug.

Works great!

I'd rather Elecraft spend their design and development time on
something like point and click tuning for the SVGA adapter of the P3.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member 

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:40:35 -0400, Ramon Tristani
r.trist...@gmail.com wrote:

The K3 lacks matching external speakers offering better sound than the 
internal one. In the tradition of other leading manufacturers, Elecraft could 
even include a power supply in the enclosure (but I would be content with just 
a good sounding speaker). Any hope for this?


Ramón Tristani, KP4GE
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread George Dubovsky
I don't use speakers a lot, but the best sounding ones I have ever used
were the ones designed for land mobile radio in-car use. The GE Mastr II
and the GE/Ericsson Delta speakers were designed to be rugged and were
tailored for communications audio. I'm sure Motorola had equivalents, but
I'm not all that familiar with their product line. The speakers are
generally found under tables at hamfests for a few bucks. The black/gray
Delta speakers even match the Elecraft line... ;-)

73,

geo - n4ua


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com wrote:

 There are plenty of speakers to choose from on the market and do not cost
 that much either. As far as power supplies I would rather use my own a
 large
 one to power many different things in the shack I use 2 Astron 70 amp
 supplies a VS and a RS-70M.

 73,
 Fred/N0AZZ

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 On 4/22/2013 3:21 PM, Ian Reeve wrote:
  As Bill says, intelligibility is best from forward facing speakers and
  a good quality 6 diameter speaker would sound great.  Just make sure
  that a stereo jack is used for the rear jack socket...

 Given the size of the P3 case I suspect one would be limited to a 3
 or 3.5 (round) speaker or a 3 x 5 oval one.  The interior of the
 P3 front panel is slightly less than 4 x 6 and will not accommodate
 either
 a 6 (round) speaker or 4 x 6 (oval).

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Jim Lowman
If you search the archives for this list, either Wayne or Eric use and 
recommend the Chill Pill speakers.  They are intended for use with iPods.
I can't see Elecraft wasting their development time on a product that is 
widely available from many other manufacturers, and at a range of costs.


I could see a matching enclosure for a speaker and power supply, like 
Drake did with the MS-4 and AC-4.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 4/22/2013 12:24 PM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:

No need for an Elecraft speaker here.

Why talk about one speaker by the way?
I use a set of computer stereo  speakers. I need two speakers for my 
K3 (main RX and sub RX in nice stereo).
The sound is good en more than adequate. For the price I got those, 
Elecraft can never compete with that. And I gues they won't.


73
Arie PA3A


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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Pete Lascell
I too have used the 2-way radio speakers for more than 30 years and 
originally did with my K3.  But after going thru the junk stach again a 
discovered I had a pair of amplified speakers (not cheap) used with Radio 
Dispatch Consoles as SELECT and UN-SELECT audio channels.  They contain ~ 6 
watt audio amp and a substancial speaker, power by 12 volts.  So I now have 
plenty of audio and with the speakers spaced about 6 feet apart there is 
noticable separation, and the AFX function is great when desired.


With the extra amplification and volume controls I can set the K3 volume 
control for hot earphone level, yet turn down the external speaker levels.


I know it is overkill, but need to put the junk in use, or give it away :-)

Pete  W4WWQ

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To: Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3



I don't use speakers a lot, but the best sounding ones I have ever used
were the ones designed for land mobile radio in-car use. The GE Mastr II
and the GE/Ericsson Delta speakers were designed to be rugged and were
tailored for communications audio. I'm sure Motorola had equivalents, 
but

I'm not all that familiar with their product line. The speakers are
generally found under tables at hamfests for a few bucks. The black/gray
Delta speakers even match the Elecraft line... ;-)

73,

geo - n4ua


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com wrote:


There are plenty of speakers to choose from on the market and do not cost
that much either. As far as power supplies I would rather use my own a
large
one to power many different things in the shack I use 2 Astron 70 amp
supplies a VS and a RS-70M.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:36 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3



On 4/22/2013 3:21 PM, Ian Reeve wrote:
 As Bill says, intelligibility is best from forward facing speakers and
 a good quality 6 diameter speaker would sound great.  Just make sure
 that a stereo jack is used for the rear jack socket...

Given the size of the P3 case I suspect one would be limited to a 3
or 3.5 (round) speaker or a 3 x 5 oval one.  The interior of the
P3 front panel is slightly less than 4 x 6 and will not accommodate
either
a 6 (round) speaker or 4 x 6 (oval).

73,

... Joe, W4TV
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[Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Bill Wiehe
I purchased a set of West Mountain COMspkr from HRO at Hamcation. 
About $40.00 and they work and sound great. The black cabinets match the K3
set up very nicely. 
Bill - W0BBI
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
I was fortunate to find a pair of Radio Shack Optimus speakers (5 inch 
black cube) at a 2nd hand store for $5.  They work great with my K3.  
You may be able to find something similar if you shop around a bit.  
These are non-amplified speakers and work quite well, no worries about 
RF feedback or other problems that sometimes occur with amplified 
varieties, and the K3 has more than adequate audio to drive these high 
efficiency speakers.


Since the K3 tailors the audio response, there is not really a need for 
communications speakers - the RX EQ will shape the audio to your 
desires, so full range speakers will work great with the K3. For those 
who do SWLing, the full range speakers may be better for those users 
than communications speakers.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/22/2013 7:36 PM, Pete Lascell wrote:
I too have used the 2-way radio speakers for more than 30 years and 
originally did with my K3.  But after going thru the junk stach again 
a discovered I had a pair of amplified speakers (not cheap) used with 
Radio Dispatch Consoles as SELECT and UN-SELECT audio channels.  They 
contain ~ 6 watt audio amp and a substancial speaker, power by 12 
volts.  So I now have plenty of audio and with the speakers spaced 
about 6 feet apart there is noticable separation, and the AFX function 
is great when desired.


With the extra amplification and volume controls I can set the K3 
volume control for hot earphone level, yet turn down the external 
speaker levels.


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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I have a pair of vintage 5 bookshelf Hi-Fi speakers left over from my
1970's hi fi setup that I incorporated into my operating position design
that do a wonderful job for me. Their enclosures are nicely finished wood
enclosures about 6 by 8.

They are actually the supports for a bridge about 6 above the operating
desk that carries the K3, KPA500 and P3 and leaves the desktop under them
clear for keys and other stuff. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

I was fortunate to find a pair of Radio Shack Optimus speakers (5 inch black
cube) at a 2nd hand store for $5.  They work great with my K3.  
You may be able to find something similar if you shop around a bit.  
These are non-amplified speakers and work quite well, no worries about RF
feedback or other problems that sometimes occur with amplified varieties,
and the K3 has more than adequate audio to drive these high efficiency
speakers.

Since the K3 tailors the audio response, there is not really a need for
communications speakers - the RX EQ will shape the audio to your desires,
so full range speakers will work great with the K3. For those who do
SWLing, the full range speakers may be better for those users than
communications speakers.

73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread wa5pok



I found a nice pair of the Optimus Minimus 7 speakers at a flea market for 
$10. They are a fine match for my K3 ...

both audio and visual.

73, Mike WA5POK


I purchased a set of West Mountain COMspkr from HRO at Hamcation.
About $40.00 and they work and sound great. The black cabinets match the 
K3

set up very nicely.
Bill - W0BBI
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Walter Underwood
I have a single Realistic Optimus 7 that I've been using with my Lowe HF-150 
for years. They stopped making those, but you can find them fairly cheap on 
eBay.

wunder
K6WRU

On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 I was fortunate to find a pair of Radio Shack Optimus speakers (5 inch black 
 cube) at a 2nd hand store for $5.  They work great with my K3.  You may be 
 able to find something similar if you shop around a bit.  These are 
 non-amplified speakers and work quite well, no worries about RF feedback or 
 other problems that sometimes occur with amplified varieties, and the K3 has 
 more than adequate audio to drive these high efficiency speakers.
 
 Since the K3 tailors the audio response, there is not really a need for 
 communications speakers - the RX EQ will shape the audio to your desires, 
 so full range speakers will work great with the K3. For those who do 
 SWLing, the full range speakers may be better for those users than 
 communications speakers.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 4/22/2013 7:36 PM, Pete Lascell wrote:
 I too have used the 2-way radio speakers for more than 30 years and 
 originally did with my K3.  But after going thru the junk stach again a 
 discovered I had a pair of amplified speakers (not cheap) used with Radio 
 Dispatch Consoles as SELECT and UN-SELECT audio channels.  They contain ~ 6 
 watt audio amp and a substancial speaker, power by 12 volts.  So I now have 
 plenty of audio and with the speakers spaced about 6 feet apart there is 
 noticable separation, and the AFX function is great when desired.
 
 With the extra amplification and volume controls I can set the K3 volume 
 control for hot earphone level, yet turn down the external speaker levels.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Walter Underwood
Oops, mine is a Realistic Minimus 7. Later, they were named the Optimus Pro 7. 
You can find a more full history of these nice little speakers here: 
http://www.angelfire.com/vt/audio/minimus.html

wunder
K6WRU

On Apr 22, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

 I have a single Realistic Optimus 7 that I've been using with my Lowe HF-150 
 for years. They stopped making those, but you can find them fairly cheap on 
 eBay.
 
 wunder
 K6WRU
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
 I was fortunate to find a pair of Radio Shack Optimus speakers (5 inch black 
 cube) at a 2nd hand store for $5.  They work great with my K3.  You may be 
 able to find something similar if you shop around a bit.  These are 
 non-amplified speakers and work quite well, no worries about RF feedback or 
 other problems that sometimes occur with amplified varieties, and the K3 has 
 more than adequate audio to drive these high efficiency speakers.
 
 Since the K3 tailors the audio response, there is not really a need for 
 communications speakers - the RX EQ will shape the audio to your desires, 
 so full range speakers will work great with the K3. For those who do 
 SWLing, the full range speakers may be better for those users than 
 communications speakers.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 4/22/2013 7:36 PM, Pete Lascell wrote:
 I too have used the 2-way radio speakers for more than 30 years and 
 originally did with my K3.  But after going thru the junk stach again a 
 discovered I had a pair of amplified speakers (not cheap) used with Radio 
 Dispatch Consoles as SELECT and UN-SELECT audio channels.  They contain ~ 6 
 watt audio amp and a substancial speaker, power by 12 volts.  So I now have 
 plenty of audio and with the speakers spaced about 6 feet apart there is 
 noticable separation, and the AFX function is great when desired.
 
 With the extra amplification and volume controls I can set the K3 volume 
 control for hot earphone level, yet turn down the external speaker levels.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

2013-04-22 Thread Dwayne Rohmer
I also use Optimus 7 speakers, they work better on my K3 than any other
speakers used so far. Easy to get on ebay.

Dwayne WV5I


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[Elecraft] External speakers for the KX3

2012-10-26 Thread William Levy
I think the KX3 is a great little radio. I tend to loose it like my Mac Air.
It disappears under bags and cables etc.

My question to the list. I am looking for a good active or powered speaker
to use with it.
Something that I could use in the shack or portable to give me more hi fi
and wattage than the small qrp
audio system. Something that runs on 12 volts or batteries that is as
portable as the KX3.

I would be interested in what members are using that would be RF proof too.

At the moment I am tying it into a small stereo amp that has an Collins
R390A on the other side.
One weighs in a 80 pounds the other at 1 1/2.

Regards to all, Bill N2WL
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers suitable for K3

2009-12-29 Thread NZ0T

I'm using an old set of Radio Shack Minimus 0.8 (40-1313) amplified speakers
I had laying around with my K3.  They are black and match the K3 nicely.
Small but sound great and no hint of any RF problems at up to 500 watts.  No
longer made but if you can find some they work well.  Powered by 4 D cells
or external 6 volt source.  They automatically turn them selves off after a
few minutes without any input and come back on when it is resumed which
helps save batteries.  I power them with an old 6 volt cell phone charger
wall wart I had in the junk box.

73 Bill NZ0T

Julian, G4ILO wrote:
 
 I got a nice pair of computer speakers this afternoon in Aldi that look
 and sound good when used with my K3. They have satisfactory RF immunity
 (no apparent problems when subjected to 100W of SSB on 80 - 6m and 50W on
 2m, from attic antennas directly above the shack.) They have a tone
 control that very effectively eliminates any tiring high frequency hiss.
 They run from a 14V supply and the power input is a regular barrel type
 connector so they can easily be powered from the shack supply avoiding the
 need for another wall-wart. And they only cost £7.99.
 
 More info and pics on my blog.
 

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[Elecraft] External speakers suitable for K3

2009-12-28 Thread Julian, G4ILO

I got a nice pair of computer speakers this afternoon in Aldi that look and
sound good when used with my K3. They have satisfactory RF immunity (no
apparent problems when subjected to 100W of SSB on 80 - 6m and 50W on 2m,
from attic antennas directly above the shack.) They have a tone control that
very effectively eliminates any tiring high frequency hiss. They run from a
14V supply and the power input is a regular barrel type connector so they
can easily be powered from the shack supply avoiding the need for another
wall-wart. And they only cost £7.99.

More info and pics on my blog.

-
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-19 Thread JIM DAVIS
On Mon, 11 May 2009 12:11:06 -0500
  Bill Maddock n4z...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want something 
 that sounds 
good,will match closely and is realitively efficent like 92 db @ 1 watt/meter! 
-What is everyone 
using?
 Thanks and 73,
 
 Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914
 __

Dear Bill,

In my own humble-opinion the BEST ext. spkr for the K3 is one made by SOUNDS 
SWEET (Google 
it!)
It may be a TAD larger than some would want by their rig BUT I assure you that 
the resulting audio
to the Human hard-drive will be very sweet indeed!!!  As I recall the retail 
price is now 
$109USD
but well worth the investment!! Though it is a tad larger than most and 
heavier it's resulting
audio output is FANTASTIC!!!

Jim/nn6ee
Concord, CA (Left-Coast!)
  
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-19 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
Gosh, I have nothing very fancy.  I have been quite pleased with a speaker I
bought from RadioShack for about $20.  It is slightly less than 1 foot high
and perhaps 8 inches wide.  It carries the brand name RCA on it.  It's
probably made somewhere in China.  However, it does sound pretty good.  On
CW, I tend to use earphones as I like the closer coupling you can get.  I'm
sure there are many more hi-fi options available but honestly this speaker
I have appears to reproduce most of the audio spectrum coming from the K-3.

Bruce-W8FU

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of JIM DAVIS
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 6:13 PM
To: Bill Maddock; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

On Mon, 11 May 2009 12:11:06 -0500
  Bill Maddock n4z...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want
something that sounds 
good,will match closely and is realitively efficent like 92 db @ 1
watt/meter! -What is everyone 
using?
 Thanks and 73,
 
 Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914
 __

Dear Bill,

In my own humble-opinion the BEST ext. spkr for the K3 is one made by
SOUNDS SWEET (Google 
it!)
It may be a TAD larger than some would want by their rig BUT I assure you
that the resulting audio
to the Human hard-drive will be very sweet indeed!!!  As I recall the
retail price is now 
$109USD
but well worth the investment!! Though it is a tad larger than most and
heavier it's resulting
audio output is FANTASTIC!!!

Jim/nn6ee
Concord, CA (Left-Coast!)
  
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-19 Thread Bill Maddock

Bruce,

I just ordered a set of 3 speakers on Ebay - They are Cobra
HG-S100 - I am hoping That they will be good - My K3 is only 4
high - these are 5 inches high and have a 4 speaker. I will
let everyone know how it turns out and compare them to my
current Kenwood SP31. The HG-S100 look good in the pics. 
Price was right at 41.50 or so for all 3 shipped to my door!
They offered HG-S300 and HG-S500 with some kind of noise reduction.
I figure I'll let the K3 handle that - for that price I can find
something to go in the 3 cases if I don't like the sound!

73 de Bill  N4ZI  K3's #1059  #2914

--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Bruce McLaughlin bmcla...@bex.net wrote:

 From: Bruce McLaughlin bmcla...@bex.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?
 To: 'JIM DAVIS' nn...@astound.net, 'Bill Maddock' n4z...@yahoo.com, 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 3:44 PM
 Gosh, I have nothing very
 fancy.  I have been quite pleased with a speaker I
 bought from RadioShack for about $20.  It is slightly
 less than 1 foot high
 and perhaps 8 inches wide.  It carries the brand name
 RCA on it.  It's
 probably made somewhere in China.  However, it does
 sound pretty good.  On
 CW, I tend to use earphones as I like the closer coupling
 you can get.  I'm
 sure there are many more hi-fi options available but
 honestly this speaker
 I have appears to reproduce most of the audio spectrum
 coming from the K-3.
 
 Bruce-W8FU
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
 On Behalf Of JIM DAVIS
 Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 6:13 PM
 To: Bill Maddock; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?
 
 On Mon, 11 May 2009 12:11:06 -0500
   Bill Maddock n4z...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  I would like to find or build an external speaker for
 my K3. I want
 something that sounds 
 good,will match closely and is realitively efficent
 like 92 db @ 1
 watt/meter! -What is everyone 
 using?
  Thanks and 73,
  
  Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914
 
 __
 
 Dear Bill,
 
 In my own humble-opinion the BEST ext. spkr for the K3 is
 one made by
 SOUNDS SWEET (Google 
 it!)
 It may be a TAD larger than some would want by their rig
 BUT I assure you
 that the resulting audio
 to the Human hard-drive will be very sweet
 indeed!!!  As I recall the
 retail price is now 
 $109USD
 but well worth the investment!! Though it is a tad
 larger than most and
 heavier it's resulting
 audio output is FANTASTIC!!!
 
 Jim/nn6ee
 Concord, CA (Left-Coast!)
   
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-13 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan

Wes Stewart schrieb am 12 May 2009 um 9:20:

 
 I'm using a pair of Optimus Pro 7AV.  These are heavy metal-cased units
 that look really nice with the K3. They look like the first ones in this
 link, except they have a textured black finish.
 
 http://www.angelfire.com/vt/audio/minimus.html
 
 I have a spare pair for sale if anyone is interested.

I use a pair of Behringer MS20. This is an active monitor speaker with two 
analog and one digital input. I did not use the digital input but I use the 
speakers also for my PC sound. 

73! de Werner OE9FWV

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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-13 Thread Wes Stewart

Sold.

--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:20 AM
 I'm using a pair of Optimus Pro
 7AV.  These are heavy metal-cased units that look
 really nice with the K3. They look like the first ones in
 this link, except they have a textured black finish.
 
 http://www.angelfire.com/vt/audio/minimus.html
 
 I have a spare pair for sale if anyone is interested.
 
 Wes N7WS
 
 
 
 
 
 
       
 


  
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-12 Thread Tom Hammond
Brendan:

For general communications use I am very fond indeed of the speakers
Motorola made for their various mobile rigs over the years, They are
very cheap, efficient and sound great for good quality communications
audio. These are not Hifi speakers but for speech / CW they do a superb job.

Mostly they seem to be a pretty close match in size and colour for the
K3 too.

I agree completely.

Some of them are 2 Ohm though, The ones I use with My K3 at the moment
are 2 Ohm ones, Since I do not know for sure if the AF amp in the K3 is
happy driving an impedance this low I stuck a 2Ohm 2W resistor in series
with each speaker and still have more than enough audio in my shack.

I have seen these available in 4-Ohm and amplified variants too. Pretty
much every radio in the shack is connected to a Moto speaker and I still
buy them at rallies, collecting stuff I might need someday must be habit

Anyone know if the can K3 drive a 2Ohm speaker without bad stuff
happening ?

In a recent e-mail from Lyle Johnson, KK7P, he stated that, while not
'designed' to drive 2-Ohm loads, the K3s AF amp should probably work
OK BUT that if one attempted to drive the speakers too hard, and the AF
amp attempted to draw excessive current (and starts to overheat), the amp
would go into a protective shut-down mode, rather than risk damaging itself.

For what it's worth, MOST (possibly all nowadays) of the newer, plastic-cased,
Motorola NON-amplified speakers are now 8-Ohms... there may be some 4-Ohm
speakers in the newer-style plastic ('fitted back') cases, but I suspect that
almost all have now been switched to 8-Ohm speakers.

I'm using a pair of 8-Ohm Motorola speakers on my K3 and it sounds just fine.

Cheers,

Tom Hammond   N0SS

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[Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-12 Thread John Wiener
I use Klipsch speakers with my K2 and they are great.  They come with  
a subwoofer , so I also use them at the computer for  iTunes, etc.
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-12 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

I would not use any speaker less than 8 Ohms with the K3. 

The audio amplifier draws more current and distortion increases 
as the load impedance decreases.  Best case THD+N vs. frequency 
for the audio amplifier is three times WORSE with 4 Ohm loads 
compared with 8 Ohm loads.

2 Ohm loads are not even spec'd. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
  





 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Hammond
 Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:23 AM
 To: Brendan Minish; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?
 
 
 Brendan:
 
 For general communications use I am very fond indeed of the speakers 
 Motorola made for their various mobile rigs over the years, They are 
 very cheap, efficient and sound great for good quality 
 communications 
 audio. These are not Hifi speakers but for speech / CW they 
 do a superb 
 job.
 
 Mostly they seem to be a pretty close match in size and 
 colour for the 
 K3 too.
 
 I agree completely.
 
 Some of them are 2 Ohm though, The ones I use with My K3 at 
 the moment 
 are 2 Ohm ones, Since I do not know for sure if the AF amp 
 in the K3 is 
 happy driving an impedance this low I stuck a 2Ohm 2W resistor in 
 series with each speaker and still have more than enough audio in my 
 shack.
 
 I have seen these available in 4-Ohm and amplified variants 
 too. Pretty 
 much every radio in the shack is connected to a Moto speaker and I 
 still buy them at rallies, collecting stuff I might need 
 someday must 
 be habit
 
 Anyone know if the can K3 drive a 2Ohm speaker without bad stuff 
 happening ?
 
 In a recent e-mail from Lyle Johnson, KK7P, he stated that, 
 while not 'designed' to drive 2-Ohm loads, the K3s AF amp 
 should probably work OK BUT that if one attempted to drive 
 the speakers too hard, and the AF amp attempted to draw 
 excessive current (and starts to overheat), the amp would go 
 into a protective shut-down mode, rather than risk damaging itself.
 
 For what it's worth, MOST (possibly all nowadays) of the 
 newer, plastic-cased, Motorola NON-amplified speakers are now 
 8-Ohms... there may be some 4-Ohm speakers in the newer-style 
 plastic ('fitted back') cases, but I suspect that almost all 
 have now been switched to 8-Ohm speakers.
 
 I'm using a pair of 8-Ohm Motorola speakers on my K3 and it 
 sounds just fine.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Tom Hammond   N0SS
 
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-12 Thread wayne burdick
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 I would not use any speaker less than 8 Ohms with the K3.

Hi Joe,

I've used 4-ohm speakers with the K3 for over two years and have yet to 
hear any distortion at moderate speaker volume. As long as the RFC47 
modification has been made on the RF board, the AF amp chip can easily 
source the peak current needed for 4-ohm loads. It's true that in any 
AF amp, distortion increases as load Z goes down, but this is a floor 
effect compared to other factors usually present (atmospheric and pulse 
noise, AGC dynamics, transmitter IMD, etc.).

The only problem we've had is with mono speaker plugs in conjunction 
with a setting of SPKRS=2, which can result in excessive AF amp 
current. But this situation is detected and corrected in the latest 
field-test firmware revision. I'll be releasing it to beta shortly.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-12 Thread Wes Stewart

I'm using a pair of Optimus Pro 7AV.  These are heavy metal-cased units that 
look really nice with the K3. They look like the first ones in this link, 
except they have a textured black finish.

http://www.angelfire.com/vt/audio/minimus.html

I have a spare pair for sale if anyone is interested.

Wes N7WS






  
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[Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread Bill Maddock
I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want something 
that sounds good,will match closely and is realitively efficent like 92 db @ 1 
watt/meter! -What is everyone using?
Thanks and 73,

Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Ellington
By match closely, do you mean physical appearance or impedance?
Speaker characteristics for SSB and CW may differ. The best overall 
compromise I've found over the past 45 years is the Heathkit HS-1661. It is 
very efficient, as in LOUD, has a thick aluminum cabinet with no vibration 
or peaky resonance. Radio Shack sells a replacement speaker that fits 
perfectly if needed.
For CW only, the MFJ ClearTone, MFJ-281 is hard to beat. It peaks strongly 
at 700 Hz and is very sensitive. Cost about $12.
The HS-1661 shows up on Ebay occasionally and usually sells for about $30 or 
so. I painted mine black.
Modern stereo speakers will work but they usually have higher power ratings 
and require more power. Amplified speakers will also work well but could be 
affected by RFI depending on brand and model.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Maddock n4z...@yahoo.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:11 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?


I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want 
something that sounds good,will match closely and is realitively efficent 
like 92 db @ 1 watt/meter! -What is everyone using?
 Thanks and 73,

 Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread mzilmer

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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread Peter Howson
Go for two, then you can take advantage of AFX.

I use two small black communications speakers, designed for vehicle mounting and
optimised for voice and are only 3-4 mm taller than the K3 -- one either side.
Really does enhance AFX on SSB and they look good too. And they were less
than GBP 7 each!

Peter
GM8GAX




I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want something
that sounds good,will match closely and is realitively efficent like 92 db @ 1
watt/meter! -What is everyone using?
Thanks and 73,

Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914


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[Elecraft] External speakers for K3 - A caution

2009-05-11 Thread Ken Kopp
Caution!  Do -not- plug a mono plug into the external
speaker jack.  Audio output IC failure will likely occur,
as a mono plug shorts one half of the IC.

73! Ken Kopp - k0pp
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3 - A caution

2009-05-11 Thread wayne burdick
Ken Kopp wrote:

 Caution!  Do -not- plug a mono plug into the external
 speaker jack.  Audio output IC failure will likely occur,
 as a mono plug shorts one half of the IC.

This can only happen if you have CONFIG:SPKRS set to 2. If you set it 
to 1, the right speaker channel is turned off, so a mono plug can be 
safely used.

In addition to this, an upcoming beta firmware release detects the case 
where SPKRS is set to 2, a mono plug is inserted, and speaker volume is 
set to a moderate or high level. (The firmware looks for excess 
receive-mode current drain due to the AF amp IC going into thermal 
shutdown.) If this happens, the K3 will automatically set SPKRS to 1, 
reminding you with a brief flashed message.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] External speakers for K3

2009-05-11 Thread Craig Smith
I've been quite pleased with the Comspkr from West Mountain Radio.  Good sound, 
small size, volume and low cut controls, no RFI and a pair is quite reasonably 
priced.

 73   Craig   AC0DS


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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3 - A caution

2009-05-11 Thread Joe Planisky
Wasn't the mod described at 
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf 
  intended to prevent the IC failure if a mono plug was used?  Did it  
not work as well as expected?  Or is the firmware detection just belt  
and suspenders protection in case someone didn't do the hardware mod?

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On May 11, 2009, at 11:30 AM, wayne burdick wrote:


 This can only happen if you have CONFIG:SPKRS set to 2. If you set it
 to 1, the right speaker channel is turned off, so a mono plug can be
 safely used.

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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3 - A caution

2009-05-11 Thread wayne burdick

On May 11, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Joe Planisky wrote:

 Wasn't the mod described at 
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf intended to 
 prevent the IC failure if a mono plug was used?

The bleeder resistor modification helps prevent an instantaneous 
current surge when an mono plug is inserted, and is definitely 
recommended. It has already been phased into production.

The new firmware provides protection in the case where high 
right-channel speaker volume, in conjunction with the insertion of a 
mono plug, results in extended high current drain at the AF amp chip.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread Brendan Minish
Bill Maddock wrote:
 I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want
 something that sounds good,will match closely and is realitively
 efficent like 92 db @ 1 watt/meter! -What is everyone using? Thanks
 and 73,

For general communications use I am very fond indeed of the speakers 
Motorola made for their various mobile rigs over the years, They are 
very cheap, efficient and sound great for good quality communications 
audio. These are not Hifi speakers but for speech / CW they do a superb job.

Mostly they seem to be a pretty close match in size and colour for the 
K3 too.

Some of them are 2 Ohm though, The ones I use with My K3 at the moment 
are 2 Ohm ones, Since I do not know for sure if the AF amp in the K3 is 
happy driving an impedance this low I stuck a 2Ohm 2W resistor in series 
with each speaker and still have more than enough audio in my shack.

I have seen these available in 4Ohm and amplified variants too. Pretty 
much every radio in the shack is connected to a Moto speaker and I still 
buy them at rallies, collecting stuff I might need someday must be habit

Anyone know if the can K3 drive a 2Ohm speaker without bad stuff 
happening ?

73
Brendan EI6IZ
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RE: [Elecraft] External speakers?

2008-12-01 Thread NZ8J
Thanks to all who provided their insight and experience pertaining to
the question I asked about external speakers for the K3. I appreciate
each and every response which provided me with a lot of options and
ideas to pursue...
 
Thanks again
Tim
NZ8J

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I would like to use two external speakers with my K3 setting them up one
on each side of the radio. Has anyone found something that somewhat
matches in color and size to the K3 and has a good sound?  Seems like
Kenwood used to make a smaller speaker that might work. Would like to
hear from anyone who has a similar setup. 

Thanks 
Tim 
NZ8J 


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[Elecraft] External speakers?

2008-11-30 Thread NZ8J
I would like to use two external speakers with my K3 setting them up one
on each side of the radio. Has anyone found something that somewhat
matches in color and size to the K3 and has a good sound?  Seems like
Kenwood used to make a smaller speaker that might work. Would like to
hear from anyone who has a similar setup. 
Thanks 
Tim
NZ8J


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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers?

2008-11-30 Thread Don Wilhelm

Tim,

Not addressing the aesthetics of the speakers, but pointing out other 
considerations.


In addition to the K3, do you have other audio sources that you want to 
listen to while in the shack?
If the answer is 'yes', you may want to consider something like I have 
here - reasonably good stereo speakers (mine are the old RS Solo-3B) 
that are fed by an audio power amplifier.  Ahead of the amplifier is a 
Behringer 802 mixer that has inputs from an FM tuner, a tape deck, and 
the K3 as well as connections in and out of the computer soundcard.  The 
sound is great.


The soundcard feeding the mixer is different than the one connected 
direct to the K3 line-in/line-out for use with digital modes.


I cannot comment on the RF immunity of this setup.  My antennas are all 
resonant and located more than 80 feet from the shack, so there is 
little possibility of RF in the shack.  Others with non-resonant 
antennas close to the shack location may experience problems.


Consistent with Jim Brown's (K9YC) recommendations, the computer is 
bonded both to the radio and the mixer, and they are all powered from 
the same AC outlet.


73,
Don W3FPR

NZ8J wrote:


I would like to use two external speakers with my K3 setting them up 
one on each side of the radio. Has anyone found something that 
somewhat matches in color and size to the K3 and has a good sound?  
Seems like Kenwood used to make a smaller speaker that might work. 
Would like to hear from anyone who has a similar setup.


Thanks
Tim
NZ8J



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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers?

2008-11-30 Thread Tom Hammond

Tim:

Personally, I like the UNamplified Motorola Mobile Speakers.  I 
bought a pair of

them a month or so ago for about $9 each, not including shipping, off EBay.

They're 8-Ohm (wish they were 4 Ohms though) but give a very nice sounding
audio and the black color goes nicely with the K3.

73,

Tom   N0SS

At 16:32 11/30/2008, you wrote:

I would like to use two external speakers with my K3 setting them up 
one on each side of the radio. Has anyone found something that 
somewhat matches in color and size to the K3 and has a good 
sound?  Seems like Kenwood used to make a smaller speaker that might 
work. Would like to hear from anyone who has a similar setup.


Thanks
Tim
NZ8J

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RE: [Elecraft] External speakers?

2008-11-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yeah, I have a pair of LabTech SS-700 speakers that I've had around for
quite a while. They are black, just about the same height as the K3, and sit
nicely and unobtrusively alongside the rig. 

 

While they have amplifiers, it leave it off  so they operate straight
through. They sound FB.

 

Those are old speakers, but they're still around. Shoot, I just checked and
saw a brand new pair still in the original box offered on e-bay for a
current bid of $0.99! 

 

Ron AC7AC

 

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Tim:

Personally, I like the UNamplified Motorola Mobile Speakers.  I bought a
pair of
them a month or so ago for about $9 each, not including shipping, off EBay.

They're 8-Ohm (wish they were 4 Ohms though) but give a very nice sounding
audio and the black color goes nicely with the K3.

73,

Tom   N0SS

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I would like to use two external speakers with my K3 setting them up one on
each side of the radio. Has anyone found something that somewhat matches in
color and size to the K3 and has a good sound?  Seems like Kenwood used to
make a smaller speaker that might work. Would like to hear from anyone who
has a similar setup. 

Thanks 
Tim 
NZ8J 

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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers?

2008-11-30 Thread k6te Wim


I got a pair of Insignia bookshelf speakers Model: IS-SP3WAY  SKU: 7314523  
at best buy for $32, provides for great audio, especially with the AFX
enabled

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7314523st=insigniatype=productid=1118843685964

enjoy
- Wim


NZ8J wrote:
 
 I would like to use two external speakers with my K3 setting them up one
 on each side of the radio. Has anyone found something that somewhat
 matches in color and size to the K3 and has a good sound?  Seems like
 Kenwood used to make a smaller speaker that might work. Would like to
 hear from anyone who has a similar setup. 
 Thanks 
 Tim
 NZ8J
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers?

2008-11-30 Thread Ken Kopp

The CB sections of most truck stops sell a variety of
suitable external speakers.  Mine are Barjan 320-701's.
Radio Scrap has similar speakers, too.

73! Ken Kopp- K0PP
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[Elecraft] External speakers for the KX1

2006-07-29 Thread Paul Huff
Hello everybody,

I was out running errands with my wife today and we stopped in at a Bed, Bath,
and Beyond store.  While she was in line to do a return I noticed a 50% off
clearance display that included a great little set of amplified speakers that I
am going to use with my KX1.  The speakers are manufactured by Excalibur
Electronics and are called “iBlaster Cube.”  They are intended for use with an
iPod but should also work great with any little QRP rig that uses stereo earbud
output.  The speakers fold up into themselves, are powered by 4 AAA batteries or
an included wall wart, and have a short lead that plugs directly into the
earphone jack on the KX1.  On sale they only cost $4.95!  I plan on using them
when I demonstrate my KX1 to others – no more “cheek-to-cheek” earbud sharing
necessary!   I don’t know if the sale was unique to this one store (Westland,
MI) or if others will also have them.  They had a pretty good supply on display.

73
Paul – N8XMS





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