[Elecraft] Rig control error with K3S and WSJT-X on 30 meters
Only one band? Sounds like the classic RFI into the computer, the cables between the radio and computer. Most likely common mode current on the feedline coming back down into the station area. That would require common mode choke to be installed at the feed point of the antenna. Might try a couple of turns of coax through a FT core and see if that helps. A couple of clamp on beads on the cable between the radio and computer might help. But the antenna feed point is really the best place to censure common mode current. Also..make sure every piece of station equipment is bonded to a common point. I use the station power supply ground terminal for my common point. Each piece of equipment has a dedicated jumper to this point. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 4/21/2022 7:50 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 13 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:20:38 -0700 From: Frank O'Donnell To:"elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: [Elecraft] Rig control error with K3S and WSJT-X on 30 meters Message-ID:<792c3760-8000-ef9b-93d1-30dafa060...@inkbox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Over a period of time I've noticed an occasional error when transmitting FT8 on 30 meters with my K3S using WSJT-X. A couple of seconds into a transmit cycle, WSJT-X will display a "Rig control error" box, and I start hearing the rig's modulated audio output on its own speaker. This only happens on 30 meters, and not 100% of the time. Over the past day, I've done FT8 QSOs normally on various bands, but when I tried 30 meters tonight I experienced the above error several times in a row. It's occurred over time using various versions of WSJT-X. The computer is a Mac running Catalina. I tried going into WSJT-X preferences and changing Radio > Split Operation from "Rig" to "Fake It," but the error persisted. I can try changing around various parts of the setup (using a Windows PC, for example), but first was curious if anyone has seen a band-specific error like this. Thanks, Frank K6FOD -- IF ONE EXPECTS COMPUTERS AND TECHNOLOGY TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS, ONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND COMPUTERS AND TECHNOLOGY AND ONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THEIR PROBLEMS." __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Rig control error with K3S and WSJT-X on 30 meters
Hi, See: https://www.nk7z.net/rfi-now-house-cleaning/ I has similar issues, and solved them via the process described on my web page. That is Part two of a three part article on removing RFI, and understanding your RF environment. This part covers self induced RFI, which is what I suspect you are seeing in your setup. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 4/18/22 22:20, Frank O'Donnell wrote: Over a period of time I've noticed an occasional error when transmitting FT8 on 30 meters with my K3S using WSJT-X. A couple of seconds into a transmit cycle, WSJT-X will display a "Rig control error" box, and I start hearing the rig's modulated audio output on its own speaker. This only happens on 30 meters, and not 100% of the time. Over the past day, I've done FT8 QSOs normally on various bands, but when I tried 30 meters tonight I experienced the above error several times in a row. It's occurred over time using various versions of WSJT-X. The computer is a Mac running Catalina. I tried going into WSJT-X preferences and changing Radio > Split Operation from "Rig" to "Fake It," but the error persisted. I can try changing around various parts of the setup (using a Windows PC, for example), but first was curious if anyone has seen a band-specific error like this. Thanks, Frank K6FOD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Rig control error with K3S and WSJT-X on 30 meters
Band specific problems are nearly always the result of common mode RFI (RF on the feedline/rig/CAT cable). Start by testing into a dummy load or with QRP (<5W) output. After that, use the normal common mode elimination measures, quality chokes at the antenna feedpoint(s), bonding all of the equipment together, ferrites on the CAT/USB cable. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2022-04-19 1:20 AM, Frank O'Donnell wrote: Over a period of time I've noticed an occasional error when transmitting FT8 on 30 meters with my K3S using WSJT-X. A couple of seconds into a transmit cycle, WSJT-X will display a "Rig control error" box, and I start hearing the rig's modulated audio output on its own speaker. This only happens on 30 meters, and not 100% of the time. Over the past day, I've done FT8 QSOs normally on various bands, but when I tried 30 meters tonight I experienced the above error several times in a row. It's occurred over time using various versions of WSJT-X. The computer is a Mac running Catalina. I tried going into WSJT-X preferences and changing Radio > Split Operation from "Rig" to "Fake It," but the error persisted. I can try changing around various parts of the setup (using a Windows PC, for example), but first was curious if anyone has seen a band-specific error like this. Thanks, Frank K6FOD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Rig control error with K3S and WSJT-X on 30 meters
Over a period of time I've noticed an occasional error when transmitting FT8 on 30 meters with my K3S using WSJT-X. A couple of seconds into a transmit cycle, WSJT-X will display a "Rig control error" box, and I start hearing the rig's modulated audio output on its own speaker. This only happens on 30 meters, and not 100% of the time. Over the past day, I've done FT8 QSOs normally on various bands, but when I tried 30 meters tonight I experienced the above error several times in a row. It's occurred over time using various versions of WSJT-X. The computer is a Mac running Catalina. I tried going into WSJT-X preferences and changing Radio > Split Operation from "Rig" to "Fake It," but the error persisted. I can try changing around various parts of the setup (using a Windows PC, for example), but first was curious if anyone has seen a band-specific error like this. Thanks, Frank K6FOD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] rig control...
You can adjust the fldigi waterfall height with a menu. Configure / Waterfall / FFT Processing, then there is a slider. The max is 160 pixels. Would you like it bigger? Also, you can do this: Configure / Waterfall / Mouse, then check the box Left click replays history Then when you click on a signal that's been transmitting a while, it will decode the last few seconds on the screen. You might also like (on the same dialog) INsert text on single left click and put in the string Then it will put in a blue line with the frequency and mode every time you click to another signal, so if you want to go back you can just click on that blue line as if it were a hyperlink and it will take you back. Leigh/WA5ZNU -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/rig-control-tp6109689p6154784.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] rig control...
Sorry, the strong to type in for Insert text on single left click is FREQ Leigh/WA5ZNU On 03/09/2011 10:07 AM, Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU wrote: You can adjust the fldigi waterfall height with a menu. Configure / Waterfall / FFT Processing, then there is a slider. The max is 160 pixels. Would you like it bigger? Also, you can do this: Configure / Waterfall / Mouse, then check the box Left click replays history Then when you click on a signal that's been transmitting a while, it will decode the last few seconds on the screen. You might also like (on the same dialog) INsert text on single left click and put in the string Then it will put in a blue line with the frequency and mode every time you click to another signal, so if you want to go back you can just click on that blue line as if it were a hyperlink and it will take you back. Leigh/WA5ZNU -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/rig-control-tp6109689p6154784.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I just tried FLDIGI recently and liked it very much. I like that it is a truly cross-platform program so that no matter what type of computer I am using - Linux, Windows, etc.- I have a program with the same interface to use. I recommend the Belkin F5U409 USB to Serial adapter. I have used this for years without any problems. Unlike some USB to Serial adapters, this one provides all the serial lines and the full protocol. It usually can be found for $25 or less. On my Ubuntu 10.04 system, this adapter is picked up plug and play without having to install anything and presents itself as /dev/ttyUSB0. 73, Bill - WA5PB On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 01:13, John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com wrote: As has already been mentioned, SignaLink/USB has no provisions for rig frequency control. Also you should note that DigiPan itself has no provisions for rig control. If you are content to adjust frequency manually then DigiPan is a very nice, /simple(!),/ program, perfectly adequate for BPSK31 QSO's. DigiPan will run on almost any kind of Intel computer, from pencil sharpener to mainframe. If you want more control, I highly recommend FLDIGI over the several other available programs. Its interface is very straighforward, and the screen is not crowded. I've used almost every program available, whether free or not, and have settled on FLDIGI as the best, *no-compromises*, one to use. It is now in Ver. 3.21.4, installs easily, and is kept up-to-date. Google for the FLDIGI download site. The one downside to it (a minor one) is that the waterfall is not very high on the screen, so if you like a tall waterfall, you will be annoyed by this at first. You can always run Spectravue simultaneously with FLDIGI if you want more viewing turf. This quirk of FLDIGI is much more than offset by the variety of modes available! The one detail to which you will have to attend is making a serial connection from your computer to your transceiver. If your computer is an older model, it will have COM ports available. The K3 also has a matching COM port, and the problem devolves to finding a cable. IF, on the other hand, your computer is a newer model, it will probably NOT have COM ports built in. You then have two choices: (1) buy a simple, inexpensive card that fits inside the computer on the mother board, comes with drivers either already in Windows or on a CD or mini-CD, or (2) to use a USB-2.0 to Serial adapter. In this last case, beware! as many of the commercially available USB-to-serial adapters will NOT work, for various reasons. Be prepared to buy an industrial-strength USB-to-serial converter, or better stilll, buy the one that Elecraft offers (it comes with a guarantee to work!). Good luck. Feel free to email me if you have further questions. Everyone was a newbie at the beginning. John Ragle -- W1ZI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] rig control...
As has already been mentioned, SignaLink/USB has no provisions for rig frequency control. Also you should note that DigiPan itself has no provisions for rig control. If you are content to adjust frequency manually then DigiPan is a very nice, /simple(!),/ program, perfectly adequate for BPSK31 QSO's. DigiPan will run on almost any kind of Intel computer, from pencil sharpener to mainframe. If you want more control, I highly recommend FLDIGI over the several other available programs. Its interface is very straighforward, and the screen is not crowded. I've used almost every program available, whether free or not, and have settled on FLDIGI as the best, *no-compromises*, one to use. It is now in Ver. 3.21.4, installs easily, and is kept up-to-date. Google for the FLDIGI download site. The one downside to it (a minor one) is that the waterfall is not very high on the screen, so if you like a tall waterfall, you will be annoyed by this at first. You can always run Spectravue simultaneously with FLDIGI if you want more viewing turf. This quirk of FLDIGI is much more than offset by the variety of modes available! The one detail to which you will have to attend is making a serial connection from your computer to your transceiver. If your computer is an older model, it will have COM ports available. The K3 also has a matching COM port, and the problem devolves to finding a cable. IF, on the other hand, your computer is a newer model, it will probably NOT have COM ports built in. You then have two choices: (1) buy a simple, inexpensive card that fits inside the computer on the mother board, comes with drivers either already in Windows or on a CD or mini-CD, or (2) to use a USB-2.0 to Serial adapter. In this last case, beware! as many of the commercially available USB-to-serial adapters will NOT work, for various reasons. Be prepared to buy an industrial-strength USB-to-serial converter, or better stilll, buy the one that Elecraft offers (it comes with a guarantee to work!). Good luck. Feel free to email me if you have further questions. Everyone was a newbie at the beginning. John Ragle -- W1ZI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Rig Control
I am using Puppy Linux and have installed FLDIGI. Is anyone using this to control their K2 and/or the K3? Being a Linux dummy...I would be willing to install some other logging/control program, IF there are howtos for the Linux impaired. Thanks 73 - k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] rig control
I have been able to connect my IC-756PROII to the Ham Radio Deluxe rig control software but when I hook up the K2 cable it will not connect. I use the N3FJP logging and contest programs and none of them are able to poll the rig either. Nor could I connect with N1MM. Ideas? Randy W6SJ K24878 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] rig control
Hi Randy - no solution here but just a couple of thoughts of things to check/try - I'm using both HRD and N1MM quite nicely with my K2. Did the KIO2 ever work? Is the special KIO2 cable properly constructed? Check that the port is actually on in the K2 menu Check that the KIO2 is actually working by using the terminal program as described in the manual - possible that the little bitty choke in the KIO2 is blown?? Check the settings of your COM port using the windows (I'm assuming you are using windows here) device manager to see that you actually are using an active and available COM port (for instance, on one computer I use a USB to serial converter and windows places that resulting port at COM4) I've found that setting N1MM to 1 stop bit works as well or better than the 2 stop bits that seem to be the default. Unless there is something very exotic about your setup, there is a solution to this vexing problem! 73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH, K2/100 #2028, KAT100, K1 # 1456, etc, etc! - Original Message - From: Randy Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:28 AM Subject: [Elecraft] rig control I have been able to connect my IC-756PROII to the Ham Radio Deluxe rig control software but when I hook up the K2 cable it will not connect. I use the N3FJP logging and contest programs and none of them are able to poll the rig either. Nor could I connect with N1MM. Ideas? Randy W6SJ K24878 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 8/26/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 8/26/05 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] rig control
Are you using the K2 cable that you built with your rig, if not you are not connecting properly. You can't use any old RS232 cable as they are different. I've been using my K2 with HRD for a long time with no problems. Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired K2/100 SN 3075 http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org - Original Message - From: Randy Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:28 AM Subject: [Elecraft] rig control I have been able to connect my IC-756PROII to the Ham Radio Deluxe rig control software but when I hook up the K2 cable it will not connect. I use the N3FJP logging and contest programs and none of them are able to poll the rig either. Nor could I connect with N1MM. Ideas? Randy W6SJ K24878 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] rig control
me too... works great... Got to spend some good time visiting with Simon at the FDIM / QRP thing at Dayton. bill At 07:56 AM 8/30/2005, Gregg R. Lengling wrote: Are you using the K2 cable that you built with your rig, if not you are not connecting properly. You can't use any old RS232 cable as they are different. I've been using my K2 with HRD for a long time with no problems. Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired K2/100 SN 3075 h ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] rig control
On Aug 30, 2005, at 4:28 AM, Randy Johnson wrote: I use the N3FJP logging and contest programs and none of them are able to poll the rig either. Nor could I connect with N1MM. I had some trouble with N1MM at Field Day. I had tested with the K2/100 before then, but when I got to the site the night before FD, it didn't work. It took a considerable amount of troubleshooting to figure out the problem. Turned out, there were two issues. First, condensation had built up in the K2/100 overnight, and this caused several high-impedance circuits, like the display and the AGC to malfunction. Second, the K2/100 wasn't receiving the signals from the laptop. The lack of receive was due to two factors - a bit of burnt flux between a couple of the DB-9 pins, and an unsoldered pin on the MAX232 chip. (!) I'd been using the K2/100 for a year and a half before I noticed that. Make sure the K2 is transmitting and receiving, and the computer as well. You can verify that the K2 is transmitting by hitting the Display button while the PORT menu is being edited. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: Not within a thousand years will man ever fly! -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
